This new telescope might show us the beginning of the universe | Wendy Freedman

Prevodilac: Tijana Mihajlović Lektor: Mile Živković

When I was 14 years old, I was interested in science --

Kada sam imala 14 godina, bila sam zainteresovana za nauku,

fascinated by it, excited to learn about it.

fascinirana njome, uzbuđena što učim o njoj.

And I had a high school science teacher who would say to the class,

Imala sam profesora prirodnih nauka u srednjoj školi koji bi rekao razredu:

"The girls don't have to listen to this."

„Devojke ne moraju da slušaju ovo.”

Encouraging, yes.

Ohrabrujuće, da.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

I chose not to listen -- but to that statement alone.

Izabrala sam da ne slušam, ali samo tu izjavu.

So let me take you to the Andes mountains in Chile,

Dopustite mi da vas povedem do planina Andi u Čileu,

500 kilometers, 300 miles northeast of Santiago.

500 kilometara, 300 milja severoistočno od Santjaga.

It's very remote, it's very dry and it's very beautiful.

To je veoma udaljeno, suvo i lepo mesto,

And there's not much there.

ali tamo nema puno stvari.

There are condors, there are tarantulas,

Ima kondora, tarantula,

and at night, when the light dims,

a u toku noći, kada nestane svetlosti,

it reveals one of the darkest skies on Earth.

otkriva jedno od najtamnijih neba na Zemlji.

It's kind of a magic place, the mountain.

Pomalo je magično mesto, ta planina.

It's a wonderful combination of very remote mountaintop

Sjajna je kombinacija veoma udaljenog planinskog vrha

with exquisitely sophisticated technology.

i izuzetno sofisticirane tehnologije.

And our ancestors, for as long as there's been recorded history,

Naši preci, dokle god naša pisana istorija seže,

have looked at the night sky and pondered the nature of our existence.

gledali su u noćno nebo i razmišljali o prirodi našeg postojanja,

And we're no exception, our generation.

a mi, naša generacija, nismo izuzetak.

The only difficulty is that the night sky now is blocked

Jedina poteškoća je da je noćno nebo sada blokirano

by the glare of city lights.

sjajem svetlosti velikih gradova.

And so astronomers go to these very remote mountaintops

Tako, astronomi odlaze na veoma zabačene vrhove planina

to view and to study the cosmos.

da bi gledali i proučavali svemir.

So telescopes are our window to the cosmos.

Dakle, teleskopi su naš prozor u svemir.

Nije preterivanje ako kažemo da će južna hemisfera biti

It's no exaggeration to say that the Southern Hemisphere is going to be

the future of astronomy for the 21st century.

budućnost astronomije 21. veka.

We have an array of existing telescopes already,

Već imamo mnogo postojećih teleskopa

in the Andes mountains in Chile,

na Andima u Čileu,

and that's soon to be joined by a really sensational array of new capability.

a njima će se uskoro pridružiti zaista senzacionalno mnoštvo novih mogućnosti.

There will be two international groups that are going to be building

Postojaće dve internacionalne grupe koje će praviti gigantske teleskope,

giant telescopes, sensitive to optical radiation, as our eyes are.

osetljive na optičko zračenje, kakve su i naše oči.

There will be a survey telescope

Postojaće istraživački teleskop

that will be scanning the sky every few nights.

koji će skenirati nebo na svakih par noći.

There will be radio telescopes,

Postojaće radio teleskopi,

sensitive to long-wavelength radio radiation.

osetljivi na zračenje dugih radio talasa.

And then there will be telescopes in space.

Postojaće i teleskopi u svemiru.

There'll be a successor to the Hubble Space Telescope;

Postojaće naslednik svemirskog teleskopa Habl

it's called the James Webb Telescope,

pod nazivom teleskop Džejms Veb,

and it will be launched in 2018.

a biće lansiran 2018. godine.

Postojaće satelit pod nazivom TESS

There'll be a satellite called TESS

that will discover planets outside of our solar system.

koji će otkrivati planete van našeg Sunčevog sistema.

For the last decade, I've been leading a group --

Tokom poslednje decenije, predvodila sam grupu -

a consortium -- international group,

konzorcijum - internacionalnu grupu,

to build what will be, when it's finished,

u izgradnji onoga što će biti, kada se završi,

najveći postojeći optički teleskop.

the largest optical telescope in existence.

It's called the Giant Magellan Telescope, or GMT.

Zove se Gigantski Magelanov teleskop ili GMT.

This telescope is going to have mirrors that are 8.4 meters in diameter --

Ovaj teleskop će imati ogledala koja su u prečniku dužine 8,4 metara -

each of the mirrors.

svako od ogledala.

That's almost 27 feet.

To je skoro 27 stopa.

So it dwarfs this stage -- maybe out to the fourth row in this audience.

Dakle, prekriva ovu binu i ide možda do četvrtog reda u publici.

Each of the seven mirrors in this telescope

Svako od sedam ogledala na ovom teleskopu

will be almost 27 feet in diameter.

imaće oko 8 metara u prečniku.

Together, the seven mirrors in this telescope will comprise

Zajedno će sedam ogledala na ovom teleskopu

biti prečnika oko 25 metara -

80 feet in diameter.

So, essentially the size of this entire auditorium.

u suštini, to je veličina cele ove dvorane.

The whole telescope will stand about 43 meters high,

Ceo teleskop će ići u visinu do oko 43 metara,

a ponovo, pošto smo u Riju,

and again, being in Rio,

some of you have been to see the statue of the giant Christ.

neki od vas su išli da vide statuu gigantskog Hrista.

The scale is comparable in height;

Mogu se uporediti po visini;

in fact, it's smaller than this telescope will be.

u stvari, statua je manja nego što će ovaj teleskop biti.

It's comparable to the size of the Statue of Liberty.

Može se uporediti sa veličinom Kipa slobode,

And it's going to be housed in an enclosure that's 22 stories --

a biće smešten u zaštitno pakovanje koje će imati 22 sprata -

60 meters high.

60 metara visine.

But it's an unusual building to protect this telescope.

To je, međutim, neobična građevina za zaštitu ovog teleskopa.

It will have open windows to the sky,

Imaće prozore otvorene prema nebu,

be able to point and look at the sky,

moći će da bude usmeren ka nebu i da gleda u njega

and it will actually rotate on a base --

i zapravo će imati rotirajuću osnovu -

2,000 tons of rotating building.

rotirajuća građevina od 2 000 tona.

The Giant Magellan Telescope will have 10 times the resolution

Gigantski Magelanov teleskop imaće 10 puta veću rezoluciju

of the Hubble Space Telescope.

od svemirskog teleskopa Habl.

It will be 20 million times more sensitive than the human eye.

Biće 20 miliona puta osetljiviji od ljudskog oka,

And it may, for the first time ever, be capable of finding life on planets

a možda će, po prvi put, moći da nađe život na planetama

outside of our solar system.

izvan našeg Sunčevog sistema.

It's going to allow us to look back at the first light in the universe --

Omogućiće nam da pogledamo unazad do prvog svetla u svemiru -

literally, the dawn of the cosmos.

bukvalno, u početak kosmosa.

The cosmic dawn.

Kosmički početak.

It's a telescope that's going to allow us to peer back,

To je teleskop koji će nam dozvoliti da bacimo pogled u prošlost,

witness galaxies as they were when they were actually assembling,

prisustvujemo vremenu kada su se galaksije sastavljale,

the first black holes in the universe, the first galaxies.

prvim crnim rupama u svemiru, prvim galaksijama.

Now, for thousands of years, we have been studying the cosmos,

Hiljadama godina proučavamo svemir,

we've been wondering about our place in the universe.

postavljamo pitanja o našem mestu u svemiru.

The ancient Greeks told us

Drevni Grci su nam rekli

that the Earth was the center of the universe.

da je Zemlja centar svemira.

Five hundred years ago, Copernicus displaced the Earth,

Pre petsto godina, Kopernik je pomerio Zemlju

and put the Sun at the heart of the cosmos.

i stavio Sunce u središte svemira.

And as we've learned over the centuries,

Kao što smo naučili tokom vekova,

since Galileo Galilei, the Italian scientist,

od vremena Galilea Galileja, italijanskog naučnika,

first turned, in that time, a two-inch, very small telescope, to the sky,

koji je prvi u to vreme okrenuo

majušni teleskop od 5 centimentara prema nebu,

every time we have built larger telescopes,

svakoga puta kada izgradimo veće teleskope,

we have learned something about the universe;

naučimo nešto o svemiru;

we've made discoveries, without exception.

otkrivamo stvari, bez izuzetka.

We've learned in the 20th century that the universe is expanding

U dvadesetom veku smo naučili da se svemir širi,

and that our own solar system is not at the center of that expansion.

a da naš Sunčev sistem nije centar širenja.

We know now that the universe is made of about 100 billion galaxies

Danas znamo da je svemir sačinjen od oko 100 milijardi galaksija

that are visible to us,

koje su nam vidljive,

and each one of those galaxies has 100 billion stars within it.

a svaka od njih ima 100 milijardi zvezda u sebi.

Sada, dakle, gledamo u najudaljeniju sliku kosmosa

So we're looking now at the deepest image of the cosmos

that's ever been taken.

koja je ikada napravljena.

It was taken using the Hubble Space Telescope,

Uslikana je uz pomoć svemirskog teleskopa Habl,

and by pointing the telescope at what was previously a blank region of sky,

a uz usmeravanje teleskopa prema nekada praznom području na nebu,

before the launch of Hubble.

pre lansiranja Habla.

And if you can imagine this tiny area,

Ako možete da zamislite ovo sićušno područje,

it's only one-fiftieth of the size of the full moon.

ono je samo pedeseti deo veličine punog Meseca.

Dakle, zamislićemo pun Mesec.

So, if you can imagine the full moon.

Sada tamo postoji oko 10 000 galaksija vidljivih na toj slici.

And there are now 10,000 galaxies visible within that image.

And the faintness of those images and the tiny size is only a result

Slaba vidljivost ovih slika i mala veličina samo su rezultat

of the fact that those galaxies are so far away, the vast distances.

činjenice da su ove galaksije toliko udaljene; ogromna je udaljenost.

And each of those galaxies may contain within it

Svaka od ovih galaksija može u sebi sadržati

a few billion or even hundreds of billions of individual stars.

nekoliko milijardi, ili čak stotine milijardi pojedinačnih zvezda.

Telescopes are like time machines.

Teleskopi su kao vremenske mašine.

So the farther back we look in space, the further back we see in time.

Što dublje gledamo u svemir, vidimo dalje kroz vreme,

And they're like light buckets -- literally, they collect light.

a izgledaju kao kofe - bukvalno skupljaju svetlo.

So larger the bucket, the larger the mirror we have,

Dakle, što je veća kofa, što veće ogledalo imamo,

the more light we can see, and the farther back we can view.

što više svetla vidimo, dalje unazad možemo da gledamo.

So, we've learned in the last century

U prošlom veku smo shvatili

that there are exotic objects in the universe -- black holes.

da postoje egzotični objekti u svemiru - crne rupe.

We've even learned that there's dark matter and dark energy

Čak smo i shvatili da postoji tamna materija i tamna energija

that we can't see.

koje ne možemo videti.

So you're looking now at an actual image of dark matter.

Dakle, sada gledate u istinsku sliku tamne materije.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

You got it. Not all audiences get that.

Skontali ste. Ne shvati svaka publika.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

So the way we infer the presence of dark matter --

Način na koji smo zaključili o prisustvu tamne materije -

we can't see it -- but there's an unmistakable tug, due to gravity.

ne možemo je videti - ali postoji nepogrešivo povlačenje zbog gravitacije.

We now can look out, we see this sea of galaxies

Možemo sada da pogledamo i vidimo ovo more galaksija

in a universe that's expanding.

u svemiru koji se širi.

What I do myself is to measure the expansion of the universe,

Ono što ja radim su merenja proširenja svemira,

and one of the projects that I carried out in the 1990s

a jedan od projekata koji sam sprovela 90-tih godina

used the Hubble Space Telescope to measure how fast the universe is expanding.

koristio je svemirski teleskop Habl

za merenja toga koliko brzo se svemir širi.

We can now trace back to 14 billion years.

Sada možemo da propratimo 14 miliona godina unazad.

We've learned over time that stars have individual histories;

Naučili smo vremenom da zvezde imaju pojedinačnu istoriju,

to jest, rađaju se, ulaze u srednje godine,

that is, they have birth, they have middle ages

a neke od njih čak imaju i dramatičnu smrt.

and some of them even have dramatic deaths.

So the embers from those stars actually then form the new stars that we see,

Iskre sa ovih zvezda zapravo onda formiraju nove zvezde koje vidimo,

most of which turn out to have planets going around them.

od kojih se za većinu ispostavi da imaju planete koje se kreću oko njih.

And one of the really surprising results in the last 20 years

Jedan od zaista iznenađujućih rezultata u proteklih 20 godina

has been the discovery of other planets going around other stars.

bilo je otkriće drugih planeta koje se kreću oko drugih zvezda.

These are called exoplanets.

One se nazivaju egzoplanete.

And until 1995, we didn't even know the existence of any other planets,

Do 1995. godine, nismo čak ni znali za postojanje bilo kakvih drugih planeta,

other than going around our own sun.

drugačijih od onih koje se kreću oko našeg Sunca,

But now, there are almost 2,000 other planets orbiting other stars

ali sada postoji skoro 2 000 drugih planeta

koje kruže oko drugih zvezda

that we can now detect, measure masses for.

koje možemo da primetimo, izmerimo im mase.

There are 500 of those that are multiple-planet systems.

Postoji 500 njih koji su višeplanetarni sistemi,

And there are 4,000 -- and still counting -- other candidates

a postoji i 4 000 - i još uvek ih brojimo - drugih kandidata,

for planets orbiting other stars.

planeta koje kruže oko zvezda.

They come in a bewildering variety of different kinds.

Pojavljuju se u ogromnoj raznolikosti različitih vrsta.

There are Jupiter-like planets that are hot,

Postoje planete nalik Jupiteru koje su vrele,

there are other planets that are icy, there are water worlds

druge planete koje su ledene, postoje vodeni svetovi,

and there are rocky planets like the Earth, so-called "super-Earths,"

a postoje i stenovite planete nalik Zemlji, tzv. „super-Zemlje”,

and there have even been planets that have been speculated diamond worlds.

a postoje čak i planete za koje se nagađa da su dijamantski svetovi.

So we know there's at least one planet, our own Earth, in which there is life.

Dakle, znamo da postoji makar jedna planeta,

naša Zemlja, na kojoj postoji život.

We've even found planets that are orbiting two stars.

Čak smo pronašli i planete koje kruže oko dve zvezde.

That's no longer the province of science fiction.

To više nije samo područje naučne fantastike.

So around our own planet, we know there's life,

Dakle, znamo da postoji život na našoj planeti,

we've developed a complex life, we now can question our own origins.

da smo razvili složene oblike života, a sada ispitujemo svoje poreklo.

And given all that we've discovered, the overwhelming numbers now suggest

Ako uzmemo u obzir sve što smo otkrili, ogromne brojke ukazuju na to

that there may be millions, perhaps -- maybe even hundreds of millions --

da možda postoje milioni, možda čak i stotine miliona

of other [planets] that are close enough --

oko drugih zvezda koje su nam dovoljno blizu -

just the right distance from their stars that they're orbiting --

na upravo odgovarajućoj razdaljini od zvezda oko kojih kruže -

to have the existence of liquid water and maybe could potentially support life.

da bi postojala tekuća voda na njima i da bi potencijalno mogle podržati život.

So we marvel now at those odds, the overwhelming odds,

Trenutno se oduševljavamo ovim šansama, ogromnim šansama,

and the amazing thing is that within the next decade,

a zapanjujuća stvar je da će u toku sledeće decenije

the GMT may be able to take spectra of the atmospheres of those planets,

GMT moći da preuzme spektar atmosfere ovih planeta

and determine whether or not they have the potential for life.

i odredi da li imaju potencijal za postojanje života.

So, what is the GMT project?

Pa, šta je GMT projekat?

It's an international project.

To je internacionalni projekat.

It includes Australia, South Korea, and I'm happy to say, being here in Rio,

Uključuje Australiju, Južnu Koreju, i srećna sam što mogu da kažem,

pošto smo u Riju,

that the newest partner in our telescope is Brazil.

da nam je najnoviji partner u izgradnji teleskopa - Brazil.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

It also includes a number of institutions across the United States,

Takođe, uključuje i nekoliko institucija iz Sjedinjenih Država,

including Harvard University,

uključujući i univerzitet Harvard,

the Smithsonian and the Carnegie Institutions,

institucije Smitsonijan i Karnegi,

and the Universities of Arizona, Chicago, Texas-Austin and Texas A&M University.

kao i univerzitete iz Arizone, Čikaga,

Teksasa-Ostina i teksaškog A&M univerziteta.

It also involves Chile.

Uključuje i Čile.

So, the making of the mirrors in this telescope is also fascinating

Pravljenje ogledala na ovom teleskopu takođe je fascinantno

in its own right.

na svoj način.

Take chunks of glass, melt them in a furnace that is itself rotating.

Uzmite delove stakla, otopite ih u pećnici koja je samorotirajuća.

This happens underneath the football stadium

Ovo se dešava ispod fudbalskog stadiona

at the University of Arizona.

na univerzitetu Arizona.

It's tucked away under 52,000 seats.

Ušuškano je ispod 52 000 mesta.

Nobody know it's happening.

Niko ne zna da se dešava,

And there's essentially a rotating cauldron.

a postoji i, u suštini, rotirajući kazan.

The mirrors are cast and they're cooled very slowly,

Ogledala se izlivaju i polako hlade,

a zatim su uglačana do izuzetne preciznosti.

and then they're polished to an exquisite precision.

And so, if you think about the precision of these mirrors,

Tako, ako razmišljate o preciznosti ovih ogledala,

the bumps on the mirror, over the entire 27 feet,

izbočine na ogledalu, preko čitavih 8 metara,

amount to less than one-millionth of an inch.

iznose manje od milionitog dela 2,5 cm.

So, can you visualize that?

Kako to prikazati?

Joj!

Ow!

(Smeh)

(Laughter)

That's one five-thousandths of the width of one of my hairs,

To je pethiljaditi deo širine moje dlake

over this entire 27 feet.

na preko čitavih ovih 8 metara.

It's a spectacular achievement.

To je spektakularan uspeh.

It's what allows us to have the precision that we will have.

To nam dozvoljava da raspolažemo preciznošću koju ćemo imati.

So, what does that precision buy us?

Pa, šta nam ta preciznost donosi?

So the GMT, if you can imagine --

GMT, ako možete da zamislite -

if I were to hold up a coin, which I just happen to have,

ako bih držala novčić, koji igrom slučaja imam,

and I look at the face of that coin, I can see from here

i pogledala u lik na tom novčiću, odavde mogu videti zapis na novčiću;

the writing on the coin; I can see the face on that coin.

mogu da vidim lik na njemu.

My guess that even in the front row, you can't see that.

Pretpostavljam da, čak i ako sedite u prvom redu, ne možete to videti.

But if we were to turn the Giant Magellan Telescope,

Međutim, ako bismo okrenuli Gigantski Magelanov teleskop,

all 80-feet diameter that we see in this auditorium,

svih 25 metara u prečniku koje vidimo u sali,

and point it 200 miles away,

i uperili ga na razdaljinu od 322 kilometara,

da stojim u Sao Paulu, mogli bismo da razlučimo lik na novčiću.

if I were standing in São Paulo, we could resolve the face of this coin.

That's the extraordinary resolution and power of this telescope.

To je izuzetna rezolucija i moć ovog teleskopa.

And if we were --

Ako bih bila -

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

If an astronaut went up to the Moon, a quarter of a million miles away,

Ako bi astronaut otišao na Mesec, na preko 400 000 kilometara udaljenosti,

i ako bi upalio sveću - jednu jedinu sveću -

and lit a candle -- a single candle --

then we would be able to detect it, using the GMT.

mogli bismo da je primetimo koristeći GMT.

Prilično izuzetno.

Quite extraordinary.

This is a simulated image of a cluster in a nearby galaxy.

Ovo je simulirani prikaz sazvežđa u obližnjoj galaksiji.

„Obližnja” je astronomsko i relativno.

"Nearby" is astronomical, it's all relative.

It's tens of millions of light-years away.

Nalazi se na udaljenosti

od nekoliko desetina miliona svetlosnih godina.

This is what this cluster would look like.

Tako bi ovaj klaster izgledao.

So look at those four bright objects,

Pogledajte sada u ovih četiri svetlih objekata

and now lets compare it with a camera on the Hubble Space Telescope.

i hajde da ih uporedimo sa kamerom na svemirskom teleskopu Habl.

You can see faint detail that starts to come through.

Možete da vidite blede detalje koji se polako izdvajaju.

And now finally -- and look how dramatic this is -- this is what the GMT will see.

Sada, konačno - a pogledajte koliko je dramatično -

ovo je ono što će GMT videti.

So, keep your eyes on those bright images again.

Zadržite pogled opet na ovim svetlim prikazima.

This is what we see on one of the most powerful existing telescopes on the Earth,

Ovo vidimo na jednom od najmoćnijih postojećih teleskopa na Zemlji,

and this, again, what the GMT will see.

a ovo je, ponovo, ono što će GMT videti.

Extraordinary precision.

Izuzetna preciznost.

So, where are we?

Pa, dokle smo stigli?

We have now leveled the top of the mountaintop in Chile.

Do sada smo poravnali vrh na planini u Čileu.

We blasted that off.

To smo digli u vazduh.

We've tested and polished the first mirror.

Testirali smo i uglačali prvo ogledalo.

We've cast the second and the third mirrors.

Izlili smo drugo i treće ogledalo

And we're about to cast the fourth mirror.

i pripremamo se da izlijemo i četvrto ogledalo.

We had a series of reviews this year,

Imali smo niz revizija ove godine.

international panels that came in and reviewed us,

Internacionalni paneli su nam dolazili u reviziju i rekli:

and said, "You're ready to go to construction."

„Spremni ste za početak izgradnje.”

And so we plan on building this telescope with the first four mirrors.

Tako, planiramo da izgradimo teleskop sa prvih četiri ogledala.

We want to get on the air quickly, and be taking science data --

Želeli bismo da uskoro uzletimo i da prikupljamo naučne podatke -

what we astronomers call "first light," in 2021.

ono što astronomi zovu „prvi let” u 2021. godini.

And the full telescope will be finished in the middle of the next decade,

Celokupni teleskop će se biti potpuno završen sredinom sledeće decenije

with all seven mirrors.

sa svih sedam ogledala.

So we're now poised to look back at the distant universe,

Sada smo spremni da pogledamo duboko u svemir,

the cosmic dawn.

u nastanak kosmosa.

We'll be able to study other planets in exquisite detail.

Moći ćemo da proučavamo planete izuzetno detaljno.

But for me, one of the most exciting things about building the GMT

Za mene je, međutim, jedna od najuzbudljivijih stvari

kod izgradnje GMT-a prilika da zapravo otkrijemo nešto

is the opportunity to actually discover something

that we don't know about -- that we can't even imagine at this point,

o čemu ništa ne znamo -

što čak ne možemo ni da zamislimo trenutno;

something completely new.

nešto potpuno novo.

And my hope is that with the construction of this and other facilities,

Nadam se da ćemo sa izgradnjom ovog i drugih postrojenja

that many young women and men will be inspired to reach for the stars.

mnoge mlade žene i muškarci biti inspirisani da posegnu za zvezdama.

Thank you very much.

Hvala vam.

Obrigado.

Obrigado.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Bruno Giussani: Thank you, Wendy.

Bruno Đusani: Hvala Vam, Vendi.

Stay with me, because I have a question for you.

Ostanite sa mnom jer imam pitanje za vas.

You mentioned different facilities.

Pomenuli ste različita postrojenja.

So the Magellan Telescope is going up, but also ALMA and others in Chile

Magelanov teleskop ide gore, ali su tu i ALMA i drugi u Čileu i drugde,

and elsewhere, including in Hawaii.

uključujući i Havaje.

Is it about cooperation and complementarity, or about competition?

Da li se ovde radi o saradnji i komplementarnosti ili o takmičenju?

I know there's competition in terms of funding, but what about the science?

Znam da postoji takmičenje kada su fondovi u pitanju,

ali šta je sa naukom?

Wendy Freedman: In terms of the science, they're very complementary.

Vendi Fridmen: Što se nauke tiče, veoma smo komplementarni.

The telescopes that are in space, the telescopes on the ground,

Teleskopi koji su u svemiru, na zemlji,

telescopes with different wavelength capability,

teleskopi različitih sposobnosti vezanih za talasnu dužinu,

telescopes even that are similar, but different instruments --

čak i teleskopi koji su slični,

ali su različiti instrumenti -

they will all look at different parts of the questions that we're asking.

svi će istražiti različite delove pitanja koja postavljamo.

So when we discover other planets, we'll be able to test those observations,

Kada otkrijemo druge planete, moći ćemo da testiramo zapažanja,

we'll be able to measure the atmospheres,

izmerimo atmosfere,

be able to look in space with very high resolution.

pogledamo u svemir uz pomoć veoma visoke rezolucije.

So, they're very complementary.

Znači, veoma su komplementarni.

You're right about the funding, we compete;

U pravu ste što se fondova tiče; takmičimo se,

but scientifically, it's very complementary.

ali je sa naučne strane sve to veoma komplementarno.

BG: Wendy, thank you very much for coming to TEDGlobal.

BĐ: Vendi, hvala Vam što ste došli u TEDGlobal.

WF: Thank you.

VF: Hvala vama.

(Applause)