Michael Pollan: A plant's-eye view

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Traducător: Andreea Fodor Corector: Maria Tancu
00:18
It's a simple idea about nature.
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Este o idee simpla despre natura
00:20
I want to say a word for nature
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si vreau sa spun ceva despre natura
00:22
because we haven't talked that much about it the last couple days.
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pentru ca nu am vorbit prea mult despre ea in ultimele zile.
00:24
I want to say a word for the soil and the bees and the plants and the animals,
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Vreau sa spun un cuvant despre sol si despre albine si plante si animale.
00:29
and tell you about a tool, a very simple tool that I have found.
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Si sa va spun despre o unealta, o foarte simpla unealta pe care am gasit-o.
00:34
Although it's really nothing more than a literary conceit; it's not a technology.
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Desi nu este altceva decat o pretentiozitate literara -nu este o tehnologie-
00:39
It's very powerful for, I think, changing our relationship to the natural world
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este foarte puternica pentru, cred, modul in care schimba relatia noastra cu natura
00:45
and to the other species on whom we depend.
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si cu celelalte specii de care depindem.
00:48
And that tool is very simply, as Chris suggested,
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Si aceasta unealta este, foarte simplu, asa cum a sugerat Chris,
00:51
looking at us and the world from the plants' or the animals' point of view.
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modul in care ne privim si privim lumea din perspectiva plantelor si animalelor.
00:56
It's not my idea, other people have hit on it,
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Aceasta nu este o idee proprie, alti oameni au mai utilizat-o,
01:00
but I've tried to take it to some new places.
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dar am incercat sa o dezvolt.
01:04
Let me tell you where I got it.
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Dati-mi voie sa va spun de unde mi-a venit.
01:06
Like a lot of my ideas, like a lot of the tools I use,
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Precum multe din ideile mele, precum multe din instrumentele pe care le folosesc,
01:09
I found it in the garden; I'm a very devoted gardener.
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am gasit-o in gradina. Sunt un gradinar foarte devotat.
01:13
And there was a day about seven years ago: I was planting potatoes,
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Si intr-o zi, aproximativ acum sapte ani, plantam cartofi.
01:17
it was the first week of May --
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Era prima zi din Mai.
01:19
this is New England, when the apple trees are just vibrating with bloom;
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Eram in New England, in perioada in care merii vibrau de floare.
01:24
they're just white clouds above.
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Sunt ca niste nori albi deasupra.
01:26
I was here, planting my chunks,
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Eram acolo, plantand,
01:29
cutting up potatoes and planting it,
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taind cartofii si plantandu-i.
01:31
and the bees were working on this tree;
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Si albinele lucrau in acest pom.
01:34
bumblebees, just making this thing vibrate.
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Bondarii zumzaiau, facand totul sa vibreze
01:36
And one of the things I really like about gardening
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Si unul din lucrurile care imi plac cu adevarat la gradinarit
01:39
is that it doesn't take all your concentration,
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este faptul ca nu cere concentrare totala.
01:42
you really can't get hurt -- it's not like woodworking --
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Nu ai cum sa te ranesti. Este ca si lucratul in lemn.
01:44
and you have plenty of kind of mental space for speculation.
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Si poti--ai suficient de mult spatiu mental pentru speculatie.
01:48
And the question I asked myself that afternoon in the garden,
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Si intrebarea pe care mi-am pus-o in acea dupa-masa in gradina a fost--
01:52
working alongside that bumblebee,
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in timp ce lucram cot la cot cu bondarii--
01:55
was: what did I and that bumblebee have in common?
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"Ce avem noi in comun?"
01:59
How was our role in this garden similar and different?
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"Cum era rolul nostru in gradina similar si diferit?"
02:03
And I realized we actually had quite a bit in common:
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Si am realizat ca de fapt aveam chiar multe lucruri in comun.
02:05
both of us were disseminating the genes of one species and not another,
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Amandoi diseminam genele unei specii sau a alteia.
02:11
and both of us -- probably, if I can imagine the bee's point of view --
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Si amandoi, probabil, daca va puteti imagina perspectiva unei albine,
02:16
thought we were calling the shots.
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credeam ca noi suntem singurii in control.
02:18
I had decided what kind of potato I wanted to plant --
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Eu decisesem ce fel de cartof vroiam sa plantez.
02:22
I had picked my Yukon Gold or Yellow Finn, or whatever it was --
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Alesesem un Yukon Gold sau un Yellow Finn, ma rog, ce era.
02:26
and I had summoned those genes from a seed catalog across the country,
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Adunasem acele gene dintr-un catalog de seminte luat de prin tara,
02:31
brought it, and I was planting it.
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le-am cumparat si le plantam.
02:33
And that bee, no doubt, assumed that it had decided,
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Si albina, fara nici un dubiu, presupunea ca decisese
02:37
"I'm going for that apple tree, I'm going for that blossom,
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"Am sa merg la acel mar, la acea inflorescenta,
02:40
I'm going to get the nectar and I'm going to leave."
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Am sa merg sa iau nectarul si am sa plec.
02:43
We have a grammar that suggests that's who we are;
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Avem o gramatica ce ne sugereaza ca asta suntem,
02:48
that we are sovereign subjects in nature, the bee as well as me.
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ca suntem subiecti suverani in natura, albina, le fel ca si eu.
02:53
I plant the potatoes, I weed the garden, I domesticate the species.
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Plantez cartofii, curat gradina de buruieni, imblanzesc animale.
02:59
But that day, it occurred to me:
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Dar in acea zi, mi-am pus urmatoarea intrebare,
03:01
what if that grammar is nothing more than a self-serving conceit?
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ce-ar fi daca gramatica nu este altceva decat o metafora elaborata care se serveste pe sine insasi?
03:04
Because, of course, the bee thinks he's in charge or she's in charge,
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Pentru ca, bineninteles, albina crede ca ea are controlul.
03:08
but we know better.
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Si--noi intelegem mai bine cum stau lucrurile.
03:10
We know that what's going on between the bee and that flower
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Stim ca ceea ce se intampla intre albina si acea floare
03:14
is that bee has been cleverly manipulated by that flower.
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este faptul ca albina este manipulata foarte abil de catre acea floare.
03:18
And when I say manipulated, I'm talking about in a Darwinian sense, right?
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Si cand spun ca este manipulata, ma refer la intelegerea Darwiniana, nu?
03:21
I mean it has evolved a very specific set of traits --
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Adica, si-a dezvoltat un foarte specific set de caracteristici--
03:24
color, scent, flavor, pattern -- that has lured that bee in.
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culoare, parfum, gust, forma--care au atras albina
03:29
And the bee has been cleverly fooled into taking the nectar,
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Si albina a fost abil momita sa ia nectarul,
03:33
and also picking up some powder on its leg,
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si sa ia ceva "praf" pe piciorul ei,
03:36
and going off to the next blossom.
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si sa il transporte la urmatoarea inflorescenta.
03:38
The bee is not calling the shots.
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Albina nu este in control.
03:41
And I realized then, I wasn't either.
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Si mi-am dat seama ca nici eu nu eram.
03:43
I had been seduced by that potato and not another
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Fusesem sedus de acel cartof, si nu de altul,
03:46
into planting its -- into spreading its genes, giving it a little bit more habitat.
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sa il plantez-- sa ii raspandesc genele, dandu-i putin mai mult habitat.
03:51
And that's when I got the idea, which was, "Well, what would happen
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Si asa mi-a venit idea, si anume, ce-ar fi -- ce s-ar intampla
03:55
if we kind of looked at us from this point of view of these other species who are working on us?"
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daca ne-am uita la noi din punctul de vedere al altor specii care ne conduc?
03:58
And agriculture suddenly appeared to me not as an invention, not as a human technology,
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Si dintr-o data agricultura mi-a aparut nu ca o inventie, nu ca o tehnologie umana,
04:03
but as a co-evolutionary development
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cu sa si o dezvoltare co-evolutionara
04:05
in which a group of very clever species, mostly edible grasses, had exploited us,
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in care un grup de specii extrem de inteligente, majoritatea ierburi comestibile, ne-au exploatat
04:11
figured out how to get us to basically deforest the world.
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si si-au dat seama cum pot ele de fapt sa ne faca pe noi sa defrisam padurile.
04:16
The competition of grasses, right?
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Competitia ierburilor, nu?
04:19
And suddenly everything looked different.
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Si dintr-o data, totul arata diferit.
04:21
And suddenly mowing the lawn that day was a completely different experience.
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Si dintr-o data, tunsul ierbii in acea zi a fost o experienta total diferita.
04:25
I had thought always -- and in fact, had written this in my first book;
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Am crezut intotdeauna, de fapt am si scris asta in prima mea carte--
04:28
this was a book about gardening --
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si acea carte a fost despre gradinarit--
04:29
that lawns were nature under culture's boot,
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ca pajistile erau natura sub cizma civilizatiei.
04:34
that they were totalitarian landscapes,
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Ca erau peisaje totalitare.
04:36
and that when we mowed them we were cruelly suppressing the species
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Si atunci cand le tundeam le suprimam crud speciile
04:40
and never letting it set seed or die or have sex.
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si ca nu le dadeam voie sa dea samanta, sa moara sau sa se inmulteasca.
04:44
And that's what the lawn was.
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Si asta era pajistea din fata casei.
04:46
But then I realized, "No, this is exactly what the grasses want us to do.
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Dar apoi mi-am dat seama ca "Nu, asta este exact ceea ce ierburile vor ca noi sa facem.
04:50
I'm a dupe. I'm a dupe of the lawns, whose goal in life is to outcompete the trees,
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Sunt victima unui truc. Sunt manipulat de catre pajisti al caror scop este sa depaseasca numarul copacilor,
04:57
who they compete with for sunlight."
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cu care se afla in competitie- cu care se afla in rivalitate pentru soare."
05:00
And so by getting us to mow the lawn, we keep the trees from coming back,
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Asa ca lasandu-ne sa le tundem, pajistile se protejeaza de aparitia copacilor,
05:04
which in New England happens very, very quickly.
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ceea ce in New England se intampla foarte, foarte repede.
05:07
So I started looking at things this way
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Asa ca am inceput sa privesc lucrurile din aceasta perspectiva,
05:10
and wrote a whole book about it called "The Botany of Desire."
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si am scris o carte intreaga pe care am numit-o "Botanica Dorintei."
05:12
And I realized that in the same way you can look at a flower
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Si am realizat ca in acelasi fel in care ne uitam la o floare
05:16
and deduce all sorts of interesting things about the taste and the desires of bees --
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si deducem tot felul de lucruri interesante despre gusturile si dorintele albinelor,
05:21
that they like sweetness, that they like this color and not that color, that they like symmetry --
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ca lor le place dulceata si ca le place aceasta culoare si nu cealalta, ca le place aceasta simetrie.
05:27
what could we find out about ourselves by doing the same thing?
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ce am putea afla despre noi facand acelasi lucru?
05:30
That a certain kind of potato, a certain kind of drug,
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Ca un anume soi de cartof, un anumit tip de medicament,
05:33
a sativa-indica Cannabis cross has something to say about us.
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un hibrid de cannabis stativa-indica spune ceva despre noi.
05:39
And that, wouldn't this be kind of an interesting way to look at the world?
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Si asta-nu ar fi un mod interesant de a privi lumea?
05:44
Now, the test of any idea -- I said it was a literary conceit --
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Acum, piatra de incercare a oricarei idei-- am spus ca era o pretetiozitate literara--
05:48
is what does it get us?
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este, ce ne ofera?
05:51
And when you're talking about nature, which is really my subject as a writer,
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Si cand vorbesti despre natura, care este de fapt subiectul meu ca si scriitor,
05:55
how does it meet the Aldo Leopold test?
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cum--intruneste conditiile testului lui Aldo Leopold?
05:58
Which is, does it make us better citizens of the biotic community?
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Care pleaca de la intrebarea: "ne face acest lucru niste cetateni mai buni ai unei comunitati biotice?"
06:02
Get us to do things that leads to the support and perpetuation of the biota,
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ce ne impinge sa face lucruri care conduc spre suportul si perpetuarea biotei,
06:09
rather than its destruction?
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spre deosebire de distrugerea ei?
06:10
And I would submit that this idea does this.
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Si asa vrea sa afirm ca aceasta idee face acest lucru.
06:12
So, let me go through what you gain when you look at the world this way,
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Dati-mi deci voie sa trec in revista avantajele felului de a privi lumea din aceasta perspectiva,
06:15
besides some entertaining insights about human desire.
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spre deosebire de, stiu si eu, perspective amuzante cu privire la dorintele omului.
06:20
As an intellectual matter, looking at the world from other species' points of view
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Ca un subiect intelectual, a privi lumea din perspectiva altor specii
06:27
helps us deal with this weird anomaly,
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ne ajuta sa facem fata acestei anormalitati,
06:30
which is -- and this is in the realm of intellectual history --
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care este-- si asta este de domeniul istoriei intelectuale--
06:34
which is that we have this Darwinian revolution 150 years ago ...
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faptul ca am avut aceasta revolutie Darwiniana acum 150 de ani--
06:39
Ugh. Mini-Me. (Laughter)
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Ugh. Eu, in varianta mai mica--
06:44
We have this intellectual, this Darwinian revolution in which, thanks to Darwin,
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avem aceasta revolutie Darwiniana, prin care, multumita lui Darwin,
06:50
we figured out we are just one species among many;
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am reusit sa intelegem ca suntem doar o specie intre multe altele.
06:52
evolution is working on us the same way it's working on all the others;
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Evolutia actioneaza asupra noastra in acelasi fel in care actioneaza asupra tuturor celorlalte specii.
06:56
we are acted upon as well as acting;
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Actioneaza asupra noastra, si noi la randul nostru suntem agentii ei.
06:58
we are really in the fiber, the fabric of life.
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Suntem chiar in fibra, in textura vietii.
07:02
But the weird thing is, we have not absorbed this lesson 150 years later;
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Dar cu toate acestea, nu am absorbit aceasta lectie dupa 150 de ani.
07:06
none of us really believes this.
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Nici unul din noi nu crede cu adevarat acest lucru.
07:08
We are still Cartesians -- the children of Descartes --
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Suntem inca Cartezieni--copii lui Descartes--
07:13
who believe that subjectivity, consciousness, sets us apart;
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care cred ca subiectivitatea si constiinta ne aseaza intr-o postura diferita.
07:18
that the world is divided into subjects and objects;
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Si ca lumea e divizata intre subecti si obiecte.
07:21
that there is nature on one side, culture on another.
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Ca exista natura pe de o parte si cultura pe de alta.
07:24
As soon as you start seeing things from the plant's point of view or the animal's point of view,
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Imediat ce incepi sa vezi lucrurile din perspectiva unei plante sau a unui animal,
07:29
you realize that the real literary conceit is that --
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realizezi ca adevarata improvizatie literara este aceasta.
07:33
is the idea that nature is opposed to culture,
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Si anume--ideea ca natura si cultura sunt concepte opuse.
07:37
the idea that consciousness is everything --
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Ideea ca doar constiinta conteaza.
07:41
and that's another very important thing it does.
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Si acesta este un alt lucru demn de retinut.
07:44
Looking at the world from other species' points of view
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Privind lumea din perspecitva unei plante
07:47
is a cure for the disease of human self-importance.
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reprezinta o cura pentru bolnavicioasa nevoie de auto-importanta a speciei umane.
07:51
You suddenly realize that consciousness --
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Iti dai seama imediat ca constiinta,
07:56
which we value and we consider
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pe care o pretuim si o consideram, stiti si voi, cununa--
08:00
the crowning achievement of nature,
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incunuarea realizarilor naturii,
08:02
human consciousness -- is really just another set of tools for getting along in the world.
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constiinta umana este de fapt doar un alt set de unelte care ne permite sa ne intelegem in lume.
08:07
And it's kind of natural that we would think it was the best tool.
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Si e intr-un fel normal sa credem ca este cel mai bun instrument.
08:11
But, you know, there's a comedian who said,
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Dar, stiti si voi---vorba comediantului,
08:13
"Well, who's telling me that consciousness is so good and so important?
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"Deci, cine imi spune ca aceasta constiinta este un lucru bun si atat de important?
08:17
Well, consciousness."
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Pai, constiinta."
08:19
So when you look at the plants, you realize that there are other tools
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Deci cand te uiti la plante, realizezi ca esti unealta lor,
08:23
and they're just as interesting.
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si ca ele sunt la fel de interesante.
08:25
I'll give you two examples, also from the garden:
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Am sa va dau doua exemple, de asemenea din gradina.
08:29
lima beans. You know what a lima bean does when it's attacked by spider mites?
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Fasolea Lima. Stiti ce face o fasole lima cand este atacata de paianjenii acarieni?
08:34
It releases this volatile chemical that goes out into the world
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Produce acest miros care ajuns in natura
08:37
and summons another species of mite
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atrage alta specie de acarieni
08:40
that comes in and attacks the spider mite, defending the lima bean.
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care ataca paianjenii acarieni si apara fasolea lima.
08:44
So what plants have -- while we have consciousness, tool making, language,
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Deci ceea ce plantele au, asta in timp ce noi avem constiinta, capacitatea de crea unelte, limbaj,
08:50
they have biochemistry.
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ele au biochimie.
08:52
And they have perfected that to a degree far beyond what we can imagine.
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Si ele si-au perfectat-o intr-o masura greu de imaginat pentru noi.
08:57
Their complexity, their sophistication, is something to really marvel at,
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Si complexitatea lor, rafinamentul lor este ceva demn de admiratie.
09:02
and I think it's really the scandal of the Human Genome Project.
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Si cred ca este chiar scandalul proiectului "Genomul Uman."
09:04
You know, we went into it thinking, 40,000 or 50,000 human genes
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Stiti, am inceput proiectul crezand ca exista 40, 50.000 de gene umane.
09:09
and we came out with only 23,000.
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Si la sfarsitul proiectului am gasit abia 23.000.
09:13
Just to give you grounds for comparison, rice: 35,000 genes.
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Doar ca sa va dau cativa termeni de comparatie, orezul: 35.000 de gene.
09:21
So who's the more sophisticated species?
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Deci cine este cea mai sofisticata specie?
09:24
Well, we're all equally sophisticated.
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Suntem toti la fel de sofisticati.
09:25
We've been evolving just as long,
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Am evoluat--impreuna cu alte specii,
09:28
just along different paths.
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doar ca pe drumuri diferite.
09:31
So, cure for self-importance, way to sort of make us feel the Darwinian idea.
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Asa incat, e o cura pentru vanitate, un mod de a ne face sa simtim ideea lui Darwin.
09:39
And that's really what I do as a writer, as a storyteller,
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Si tocmai acest lucru il fac si eu ca si autor si povestitor,
09:42
is try to make people feel what we know and tell stories that actually
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este sa incerc sa fac oamenii sa rezoneze cu noi in ceea ce stim si sa spunem povesti care ne fac--
09:49
help us think ecologically.
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ne ajuta sa gandim ecologic.
09:50
Now, the other use of this is practical.
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Acum, cealalta intrebuintare este practica.
09:52
And I'm going to take you to a farm right now,
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Si am sa vorbesc-- am sa va duc la o ferma.
09:54
because I used this idea to develop my understanding of the food system
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Pentru ca am folosit aceasta idee sa dezvolt o intelegere proprie a sistemului de hrana.
09:58
and what I learned, in fact, is that we are all, now, being manipulated by corn.
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si ceea ce am invatat, de fapt, este ca noi toti, chiar acum, suntem manipulati de porumb.
10:03
And the talk you heard about ethanol earlier today,
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Si prezentarea pe care ati auzit-o mai devreme despre ethanol
10:08
to me, is the final triumph of corn over good sense. (Laughter) (Applause)
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reprezinta pentru mine, triumful final al porumbului asupra bunui simt. (Rasete)
10:13
It is part of corn's scheme for world domination.
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Este parte din--(Aplauze) planul porumbului de a domina lumea.
10:21
(Laughter)
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(Rasete)
10:22
And you will see, the amount of corn planted this year will be up dramatically from last year
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Si veti vedea cum cantitatea de porumb plantata anul acesta va creste dramatic fata de anul trecut,
10:26
and there will be that much more habitat
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si ca va exista mai mult habitat,
10:28
because we've decided ethanol is going to help us.
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pentru ca ne-am decis ca ethanolul o sa ne ajute.
10:30
So it helped me understand industrial agriculture,
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Asa incat--dar dati-mi voie--acest lucru m-a ajutat sa inteleg agricultura industriala,
10:34
which of course is a Cartesian system.
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care, bineinteles, este un sistem Cartezian.
10:36
It's based on this idea that we bend other species to our will
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Este bazat pe ideea ca putem sa maniputam speciile la comanda,
10:39
and that we are in charge, and that we create these factories
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si ca noi suntem in control si ca am creat aceste fabrici,
10:42
and we have these technological inputs and we get the food out of it
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si ca avem aceste inputuri tehnologice, si ca putem obtine hrana cu ajutorul lor,
10:45
or the fuel or whatever we want.
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sau combustibil, sau orice ne dorim.
10:48
Let me take you to a very different kind of farm.
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Dati-mi voie sa va duc la o ferma total diferita.
10:50
This is a farm in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.
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Este ferma in valea Shenandoah, statul Virginia.
10:53
I went looking for a farm where these ideas
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Am cautat o ferma in care aceste idei
10:56
about looking at things from the species' point of view are actually implemented,
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despre cum am privi lucrurile din perspectiva unei plante erau intr-adevar implementate.
11:00
and I found it in a man. The farmer's name is Joel Salatin.
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Si am gasit acest lucru intr-un fermier, pe numele sau Joel Salatin,
11:02
And I spent a week as an apprentice on his farm,
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cu care am petrecut o saptamana ca si invatacel la ferma lui.
11:05
and I took away from this some of the most hopeful news about our relationship to nature
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Si am luat cu mine unele din cele mai utile noutati despre relatia noastra cu natura
11:11
that I've ever come across in 25 years of writing about nature.
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pe care le-am intalnit in 25 de ani de scris despre natura.
11:14
And that is this:
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Si iat-o.
11:15
the farm is called Polyface, which means ...
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Ferma se numeste "Polyface." Ceea ce inseamna--
11:18
the idea is he's got six different species of animals, as well as some plants,
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ideea este ca exista sase specii diferite de animale, precum si niste plante,
11:22
growing in this very elaborate symbiotic arrangement.
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care cresc in aceasta extrem de elaborata si simbiotica aranjare.
11:25
It's permaculture, those of you who know a little bit about this,
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Este permacultura, pentru cei dintre dumneavoastra care cunosc cate ceva despre acest subiect,
11:27
such that the cows and the pigs and the sheep and the turkeys and the ...
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astfel incat vacile si porcii, si oile si curcanii si--
11:35
what else does he have?
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ce altceva, ce altceva mai are?
11:37
All the six different species -- rabbits, actually --
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Toate cele sase specii diferite--iepurii, de fapt--
11:39
are all performing ecological services for one another,
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toate creaza servicii ecologice pentru celelalte,
11:42
such that the manure of one is the lunch for the other
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astfel incat balegarul unuia, era hrana celuilalt
11:45
and they take care of pests for one another.
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si se deparazitau unii pe ceilalti.
11:47
It's a very elaborate and beautiful dance,
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Si nu pot--este un dans frumos si foarte elaborat
11:50
but I'm going to just give you a close-up on one piece of it,
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dar am sa va ofer un close-up.
11:53
and that is the relationship between his cattle and his chickens, his laying hens.
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Si el se refera la relatia dintre bovinele si pasarile lui de curte, gainile ouatoare.
11:59
And I'll show you, if you take this approach, what you get, OK?
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Si am sa va arat, ce se intampla daca incercam aceasta metoda, ok?
12:04
And this is a lot more than growing food, as you'll see;
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Si veti vedea ca are de-a face cu mai mult decat cu producerea hranei.
12:06
this is a different way to think about nature
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Acesta este un mod diferit de a percepe natura
12:08
and a way to get away from the zero-sum notion,
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si un mod de a ne diferentia de notiunea de suma nula care--
12:12
the Cartesian idea that either nature's winning or we're winning,
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ideea Carteziana ca ori natura, ori noi castigam
12:15
and that for us to get what we want, nature is diminished.
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si acesta, pentru ca noi sa obtinem ceea ce ne dorim, diminuam natura.
12:19
So, one day, cattle in a pen.
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Astfel, intr-o zi, bovinele sa stea intr-un ocol.
12:21
The only technology involved here is this cheap electric fencing:
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Singura tehnologie folosita aici este un gard ieftin electric,
12:24
relatively new, hooked to a car battery;
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relativ nou, legat la o baterie de masina.
12:26
even I could carry a quarter-acre paddock, set it up in 15 minutes.
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Chiar si eu puteam sa acopar un ocol de un sfert de acru, sa il asamblez in 15 minute.
12:30
Cows graze one day. They move, OK?
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Bovinele pasc si apoi se muta, ok?
12:34
They graze everything down, intensive grazing.
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pasc totul, intensiv.
12:36
He waits three days,
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Fermierul asteapta trei zile.
12:38
and then we towed in something called the Eggmobile.
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si apoi aduce ceva numit "eggmobile."
12:41
The Eggmobile is a very rickety contraption --
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Eggmobilul este inventie foarte fragila.
12:44
it looks like a prairie schooner made out of boards --
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Arata ca si o barca din placi aflata in preerie,
12:47
but it houses 350 chickens.
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dar adaposteste 350 de pui.
12:49
He tows this into the paddock three days later and opens the gangplank,
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Aduce eggmobilul in ocol dupa trei zile si deschide rampa,
12:55
turns them down, and 350 hens come streaming down the gangplank --
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le da drumul si 350 de gaini se napustesc afara--
12:59
clucking, gossiping as chickens will --
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cotcodacind, asa cum fac gainile.
13:01
and they make a beeline for the cow patties.
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Si ele se aseaza in linie pentru a manca din balegarul lasat de bovine.
13:06
And what they're doing is very interesting:
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Si ceea ce fac este extrem de interesant.
13:08
they're digging through the cow patties
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Scurma prin balegar
13:10
for the maggots, the grubs, the larvae of flies.
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pentru viermi, si larve de muste.
13:14
And the reason he's waited three days
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Si motivul pentru care fermierul a asteptat trei zile
13:16
is because he knows that on the fourth day or the fifth day, those larvae will hatch
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este pentru ca stie ca in a patra sau a cincea zi, acele larve vor face oua
13:21
and he'll have a huge fly problem.
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si va avea o problema imensa cu mustele.
13:23
But he waits that long to grow them as big and juicy and tasty as he can
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Dar asteapta atat de mult ca acele larve sa creasca suficient de mari si de gustoase
13:29
because they are the chickens' favorite form of protein.
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pentru ca ele sunt sursa preferata de proteine a puilor.
13:32
So the chickens do their kind of little breakdance
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Astfel incat puii danseaza un dans al lor
13:34
and they're pushing around the manure to get at the grubs,
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si scurma in jurul balegarului sa ajunga la larve,
13:38
and in the process they're spreading the manure out.
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si in acest proces, se imprastie balegarul.
13:41
Very useful second ecosystem service.
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Foarte folositor. Serviciu pentru ecosistem la mana a doua.
13:45
And third, while they're in this paddock
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Si trei, in timp ce gainile se afla in ocol,
13:48
they are, of course, defecating madly
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la randul lor produc gainat
13:51
and their very nitrogenous manure is fertilizing this field.
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si nitrogenul din el fertilizeaza pamantul.
13:57
They then move out to the next one,
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Apoi se muta la urmatorul ocol,
13:59
and in the course of just a few weeks, the grass just enters this blaze of growth.
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si in decursul a cateva saptamani iarba poate sa rasara din nou.
14:07
And within four or five weeks, he can do it again.
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Si in cursul a patru sau cinci saptamani, fermierul poate repeta procesul.
14:09
He can graze again, he can cut, he can bring in another species,
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Poate sa duca animalele la pascut, poate sa opreasca procesul, poate sa aduca alta specie
14:12
like the lambs, or he can make hay for the winter.
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cum ar fi mieii, sau poate sa pregateasca fanul pentru iarna.
14:17
Now, I want you to just look really close up onto what's happened there.
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Acum, va rog sa priviti cu mare atentie la ceea ce se intampla aici.
14:21
So, it's a very productive system.
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Este un sistem extrem de productiv.
14:22
And what I need to tell you is that on 100 acres
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Si ceea ce vreau sa va spun este ca pe 100 de acri
14:24
he gets 40,000 pounds of beef; 30,000 pounds of pork; 25,000 dozen eggs;
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fermierul produce 40,000 de pounds de carne de vita, 30,000 de pounds de carne de porc si 25,000 de oua.
14:29
20,000 broilers; 1,000 turkeys; 1,000 rabbits --
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20.000 de pui pentru rotisor, 1,000 de curcani, 1,000 de ieprui--
14:32
an immense amount of food.
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o cantitate imensa de hrana.
14:34
You know, you hear, "Can organic feed the world?"
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Stiti, auzim adesea "Poate mancarea organica sa hraneasca lumea?"
14:36
Well, look how much food you can produce on 100 acres if you do this kind of ...
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Priviti cata mancare se poate produce pe o suprafata de 100 de acri, daca faci o astfel de agricultura--
14:41
again, give each species what it wants,
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si, din nou, oferim fiecarei specii ceea ce are nevoie.
14:44
let it realize its desires, its physiological distinctiveness.
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Ii indeplinim dorintele si ii permitem sa aiba diferente fiziologice.
14:48
Put that in play.
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Pune-ti aceasta in practica.
14:50
But look at it from the point of view of the grass, now.
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Dar sa privim aceasta din nou din perspectiva ierbii.
14:53
What happens to the grass when you do this?
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Ce se intampla cu iarba cand facem acest lucru?
14:55
When a ruminant grazes grass, the grass is cut from this height to this height,
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Cand un animal ierbivor paste, iarba este taiata de la aceasta inaltime la aceasta inaltime.
15:01
and it immediately does something very interesting.
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Si imediat se intampla ceva foarte interesant.
15:03
Any one of you who gardens knows that there is something called the root-shoot ratio,
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Oricare dintre voi care se pricepe la gradinarit stie ca exista un raport intre radacina si tulpina.
15:07
and plants need to keep the root mass
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Si ca plantele trebuie sa pastreze o masa radacinoasa
15:11
in some rough balance with the leaf mass to be happy.
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in aproximativ aceeasi masura ca si masa ierboasa pentru a fi sanatoase.
15:14
So when they lose a lot of leaf mass, they shed roots;
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Asa ca atunci cand pierd multa masa ierboasa, incep sa isi piarda radacinile.
15:18
they kind of cauterize them and the roots die.
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Se cauterizeaza si mor.
15:21
And the species in the soil go to work
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Si speciile din sol incep sa lucreze,
15:24
basically chewing through those roots, decomposing them --
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si practic rod acele radacini, le descompun--
15:28
the earthworms, the fungi, the bacteria -- and the result is new soil.
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viermii, fungusul, bacteriile--si rezultatul este un sol nou.
15:34
This is how soil is created.
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Asa se creeaza solul.
15:37
It's created from the bottom up.
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Se creeaza de jos in sus.
15:38
This is how the prairies were built,
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Si asa au fost create preeriile,
15:40
the relationship between bison and grasses.
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si relatia dintre bizoni si ierburi.
15:43
And what I realized when I understood this --
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Si ceea ce am realizat cand am inteles acest fenomen--
15:46
and if you ask Joel Salatin what he is, he'll tell you he's not a chicken farmer,
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si daca il intrebati pe Joel Salatin ce se considera el a fi, va va spune ca nu este fermier de pasari,
15:50
he's not a sheep farmer, he's not a cattle rancher; he's a grass farmer,
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si nici fermier de oi, si nici crescator de bovine, este un fermier al ierbii,
15:55
because grass is really the keystone species of such a system --
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pentru ca iarba este cea care intr-adevar, este piatra de temeile a unui astfel de sistem--
15:59
is that, if you think about it, this completely contradicts the tragic idea of nature we hold in our heads,
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si daca stam sa ne gandim, acest lucru contrazice complet ideea tragica despre natura pe care o avem in mintea noastra
16:08
which is that for us to get what we want, nature is diminished.
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si anume ca pentru a obtine ceea ce ne dorim de la ea, trebuie sa o diminuam.
16:14
More for us, less for nature.
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Mai mult pentru noi, mai putin pentru natura.
16:16
Here, all this food comes off this farm, and at the end of the season
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Aici, toata aceasta mancare vine de la aceasta ferma, si la sfarsitul sezonului
16:21
there is actually more soil, more fertility and more biodiversity.
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avem in realitate mai mult sol, mai multa fertilitate si mai multa biodiversitate.
16:28
It's a remarkably hopeful thing to do.
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Este un lucru cu adevarat remarcabil de infaptuit.
16:31
There are a lot of farmers doing this today.
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Exista o multime de fermieri care fac acest lucru azi
16:33
This is well beyond organic agriculture,
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Aceasta metoda depasteste agricultura organica,
16:36
which is still a Cartesian system, more or less.
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care este inca, mai mult sau mai putin, un sistem Cartezian.
16:39
And what it tells you is that if you begin to take account of other species,
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Si ceea ce ne spune este faptul ca daca incepem sa luam in considerare celelalte specii,
16:45
take account of the soil, that even with nothing more than this perspectival idea
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sa luam in considerare solul, care chiar si cu nimic mai mult decat cu aceasta idee de perspectiva
16:52
-- because there is no technology involved here except for those fences,
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-- pentru ca nu exista nici o tehnologie implicata aici cu exceptia acelor garduri,
16:56
which are so cheap they could be all over Africa in no time --
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care ar putea sa fie, stiti si voi, sunt atat de ieftine ca ar putea fi implementate si in Africa cat ai clipi--
17:01
that we can take the food we need from the Earth
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ca puteti, putem sa ne luam hrana pe care o avem nevoie din pamant
17:05
and actually heal the Earth in the process.
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si in acelasi timp sa il vindecam in timpul procesului.
17:10
This is a way to reanimate the world,
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Acesta este un mod de a reinsufleti lumea.
17:12
and that's what's so exciting about this perspective.
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Si acesta este motivul pentru care perspectiva aceasta este atat de excitanta.
17:14
When we really begin to feel Darwin's insights in our bones,
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Cand incepem sa simtim cu adevarat perspectiva lui Darwim in esenta noastra,
17:18
the things we can do with nothing more than these ideas
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lucrurile pe care le putem face doar cu ajutorul acestor idei
17:23
are something to be very hopeful about.
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sunt extrem de incurajatoare.
17:25
Thank you very much.
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Va multumesc foarte mult.
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