Peter Eigen: How to expose the corrupt

Prevoditelj: Davorin Jelačić Recezent: Mislav Ante Omazić - EFZG

I am going to speak about corruption,

Govorit ću o korupciji,

but I would like to juxtapose

ali bih volio promatrati

two different things.

dvije različite stvari.

One is the large global economy,

Jedna je velika globalna ekonomija,

the large globalized economy,

velika globalizirana ekonomija,

and the other one is the small, and very limited,

a druga je mali i vrlo ograničen

capacity of our traditional governments

kapacitet tradicionalnih vlada

and their international institutions

i njihovih međunarodnih institucija

to govern, to shape, this economy.

da upravljaju i oblikuju tu ekonomiju.

Because there is this asymmetry,

Budući da postoji ova asimetrija,

which creates, basically,

koja, u suštini, rađa

failing governance.

neuspješno upravljanje.

Failing governance in many areas:

Upravljanje je neuspješno u mnogim područjima,

in the area of corruption and the area of destruction of the environment,

na području korupcije, na području razaranja okoliša,

in the area of exploitation of women and children,

na području izrabljivanja žena i djece,

in the area of climate change,

na području klimatskih promjena.

in all the areas in which we really need

U svim područjima u kojima nam zaista treba

a capacity to reintroduce

kapacitet da ponovno uvedemo

the primacy of politics

prvenstvo politike

into the economy,

pred ekonomijom,

which is operating in a worldwide arena.

koja je operabilna u globalnoj areni.

And I think corruption,

I mislim kako je korupcija,

and the fight against corruption,

i borba protiv korupcije,

and the impact of corruption,

i učinci korupcije,

is probably one of the most interesting ways

jedan od vjerojatno najzanimljivijih načina

to illustrate what I mean

za ilustraciju onoga što mislim

with this failure of governance.

pod neuspješnim upravljanjem.

Let me talk about my own experience.

Dopustite da vam ispričam o svojem vlastitom iskustvu.

I used to work as the director

Radio sam kao direktor

of the World Bank office in Nairobi

ureda Svjetske banke za istočnu Afriku

for East Africa.

u Nairobiju.

At that time, I noticed

U to doba, primijetio sam

that corruption, that grand corruption,

kako korupcija, velika korupcija,

that systematic corruption,

sustavna korupcija,

was undermining everything we were trying to do.

podriva sve što smo pokušavali učiniti.

And therefore, I began

I zato sam počeo

to not only try to protect

ne samo pokušati zaštititi

the work of the World Bank,

rad Svjetske banke,

our own projects, our own programs

naše vlastite projekte, naše programe

against corruption,

od korupcije,

but in general, I thought, "We need a system

već sam, općenito, mislio da trebamo sustav

to protect the people

koji će štititi ljude

in this part of the world

u ovom dijelu svijeta

from the ravages of corruption."

od pustošenja korupcije.

And as soon as I started this work,

I, čim sam počeo s djelovanjem,

I received a memorandum from the World Bank,

primio sam memorandum iz Svjetske banke,

from the legal department first,

prvo iz pravnog odjela,

in which they said, "You are not allowed to do this.

u kojem su rekli, nije ti dopušteno to činiti.

You are meddling in the internal affairs of our partner countries.

Miješaš se u unutarnje stvari zemalja koje su naši partneri.

This is forbidden by the charter of the World Bank,

To je zabranjeno statutom Svjetske banke.

so I want you to stop your doings."

Pa želimo da prestanete s time.

In the meantime, I was chairing

U međuvremenu sam predsjedavao

donor meetings, for instance,

sastancima darovatelja, na primjer,

in which the various donors,

na kojima su razni donatori,

and many of them like to be in Nairobi --

a mnogi od njih vole biti u Nairobiju --

it is true, it is one of the

točno je, to je jedan od

unsafest cities of the world,

najnesigurnijih gradova svijeta,

but they like to be there because the other cities

ali oni vole biti ondje jer su drugi gradovi

are even less comfortable.

još neugodniji.

And in these donor meetings, I noticed

I na tim sastancima darovatelja, primijetio sam

that many of the worst projects --

da mnogi najgori projekti

which were put forward

koji su ponuđeni

by our clients, by the governments,

od strane naših klijenata, vlada,

by promoters,

od strane zagovarača,

many of them representing

od kojih mnogi zastupaju

suppliers from the North --

dobavljače sa sjevera,

that the worst projects

da najgori projekti

were realized first.

prvi bivaju realizirani.

Let me give you an example:

Dat ću vam primjer.

a huge power project,

Ogroman energetski projekt,

300 million dollars,

300 milijuna dolara,

to be built smack into

kojega treba izgraditi usred

one of the most vulnerable, and one of the most beautiful,

jednoga od najranjivijih i najljepših

areas of western Kenya.

dijelova zapadne Kenije.

And we all noticed immediately

I svi smo odmah primijetili

that this project had no economic benefits:

da se od projekta ne može očekivati ekonomska korist.

It had no clients, nobody would buy the electricity there,

Nije za nj bilo klijenata. Nitko ondje ne bi kupovao struju.

nobody was interested in irrigation projects.

Nitko nije bio zainteresiran za projekte navodnjavanja.

To the contrary, we knew that this project

Baš suprotno, znali smo da će onaj projekt

would destroy the environment:

razoriti okoliš,

It would destroy riparian forests,

razorit će šume uz vodeni tok,

which were the basis for

koje su temelj

the survival of nomadic groups,

preživljavanja nomadskih skupina,

the Samburu and the Turkana in this area.

Samburu i Tokana na tom području.

So everybody knew this is a, not a useless project,

Dakle, svi smo znali da je to, ne beskoristan,

this is an absolute damaging, a terrible project --

već apsolutno štetan, užasan projekt,

not to speak about the future indebtedness of the country

a da i ne pričamo o budućoj zaduženosti zemlje

for these hundreds of millions of dollars,

zbog tih stotina milijuna dolara,

and the siphoning off

i odlijevanju

of the scarce resources of the economy

oskudnih ekonomskih resursa

from much more important activities

iz mnogo važnijih aktivnosti

like schools, like hospitals and so on.

poput škola, bolnica, i tako dalje.

And yet, we all rejected this project,

Ipak, svi smo odbili ovaj projekt.

none of the donors was willing

Nijedan donator nije bio spreman

to have their name connected with it,

povezati svoje ime s time,

and it was the first project to be implemented.

ali je to bio prvi projekt koji se proveo.

The good projects, which we as a donor community

Dobri projekti koje bismo mi kao darovatelji

would take under our wings,

zdušno prihvatili,

they took years, you know,

tražili su godine, znate,

you had too many studies,

moralo se uraditi puno studija,

and very often they didn't succeed.

i ti projekti vrlo često nisu uspjeli.

But these bad projects,

Ali loši projekti,

which were absolutely damaging -- for the economy

koji su bili apsolutno štetni za gospodarstvo,

for many generations, for the environment,

za mnoge naraštaje, za okoliš,

for thousands of families who had to be resettled --

za tisuće obitelji koje je trebalo raseliti.

they were suddenly put together

Njih bi iznenada sastavljali

by consortia of banks,

konzorciji banaka,

of supplier agencies,

dobavljačkih agencija,

of insurance agencies --

osiguravateljskih kuća,

like in Germany, Hermes, and so on --

poput Hermesa u Njemačkoj, i tako dalje.

and they came back very, very quickly,

I oni su se vraćali vrlo, vrlo brzo,

driven by an unholy alliance

gurani nemoralnim savezništvom

between the powerful elites

između moćnih elita

in the countries there

u tim zemljama,

and the suppliers from the North.

i dobavljača sa sjevera.

Now, these suppliers

Ti su dobavljači

were our big companies.

bile naše velike kompanije.

They were the actors of this global market,

One su pokretači globalnog tržišta,

which I mentioned in the beginning.

koje sam spomenuo na početku.

They were the Siemenses of this world,

To su Siemensi ovoga svijeta,

coming from France, from the UK, from Japan,

sa sjedištem u Francuskoj, Velikoj Britaniji, Japanu,

from Canada, from Germany,

Kanadi, Njemačkoj,

and they were systematically driven

i one su vođene sustavno

by systematic, large-scale corruption.

sustavnom korupcijom velikih razmjera.

We are not talking about

Ne govorimo sada

50,000 dollars here,

o 50.000 dolara,

or 100,000 dollars there, or one million dollars there.

ili 100.000 dolara ili o milijun dolara.

No, we are talking about 10 million, 20 million dollars

Ne, govorimo o 10 milijuna, 20 milijuna,

on the Swiss bank accounts,

na računima švicarskih banaka,

on the bank accounts of Liechtenstein,

na računima u Liechtensteinu,

of the president's ministers,

koji pripadaju predsjednikovim ministrima,

the high officials in the para-statal sectors.

visokim dužnosnicima paradržavnih sektora.

This was the reality which I saw,

To je stvarnost koju sam vidio,

and not only one project like that:

i nisam samo jedan takav projekt,

I saw, I would say,

vidio, rekao bih,

over the years I worked in Africa,

tijekom godina svoga rada u Africi,

I saw hundreds of projects like this.

vidio sam stotine takvih projekata.

And so, I became convinced

Pa sam postao uvjeren

that it is this systematic corruption

da je sustavna korupcija

which is perverting economic policy-making in these countries,

koja kvari ekonomsku politiku u tim zemljama,

which is the main reason

glavni razlog

for the misery, for the poverty,

bijede, siromaštva,

for the conflicts, for the violence,

sukoba, nasilja,

for the desperation

i očaja

in many of these countries.

u mnogim od tih zemalja.

That we have today

Razlog da danas imamo,

more than a billion people below the absolute poverty line,

više od milijarde ljudi ispod praga apsolutnog siromaštva,

that we have more than a billion people

da na svijetu imamo više od milijarde ljudi

without proper drinking water in the world,

bez dobre pitke vode,

twice that number,

a dvostruko ih je više,

more than two billion people

više od dvije milijarde ljudi

without sanitation and so on,

bez osnovne sanitacije, i tako dalje,

and the consequent illnesses

kao i, posljedične bolesti

of mothers and children,

majki i djece,

still, child mortality of more than

još uvijek, smrtnost djece veću od

10 million people every year,

10 milijuna ljudi godišnje,

children dying before they are five years old:

djecu koja umiru prije nego dožive svoju petu godinu.

The cause of this is, to a large extent,

Uzrok ovoga u velikoj je mjeri

grand corruption.

grandiozna korupcija.

Now, why did the World Bank

Sada, zašto mi Svjetska banka

not let me do this work?

nije dopustila djelovanje?

I found out afterwards,

Otkrio sam kasnije,

after I left, under a big fight, the World Bank.

nakon što sam, nakon velike svađe, napustio Svjetsku banku.

The reason was that the members of the World Bank

Razlog je bio u tome što su članice Svjetske banke

thought that foreign bribery was okay,

smatrale da je inozemno podmićivanje u redu,

including Germany.

uključujući i Njemačku.

In Germany, foreign bribery was allowed.

U Njemačkoj, podmićivanje u inozemstvu je dopušteno.

It was even tax-deductible.

Čak utječe na smanjenje poreza.

No wonder that most of the most important

Nije ni čudo da je većina najvažnijih

international operators in Germany,

međunarodnih kompanija u Njemačkoj,

but also in France and the UK

ali i u Francuskoj i u Velikoj Britaniji

and Scandinavia, everywhere, systematically bribed.

i Skandinaviji, posvuda, sustavno podmićivala.

Not all of them, but most of them.

Ne sve, ali većina.

And this is the phenomenon

A to je fenomen

which I call failing governance,

koji nazivam neuspješnim upravljanjem,

because when I then came to Germany

jer kad sam potom došao u Njemačku

and started this little NGO

i pokrenuo malu nevladinu organizaciju

here in Berlin, at the Villa Borsig,

u Berlinu, u Villa Borsig,

we were told, "You cannot stop

rečeno nam je da ne možemo zaustaviti

our German exporters from bribing,

njemačke izvoznike da podmićuju,

because we will lose our contracts.

jer ćemo izgubiti ugovore.

We will lose to the French,

Izgubit ćemo od Francuza,

we will lose to the Swedes, we'll lose to the Japanese."

izgubit ćemo od Šveđana, izgubit ćemo od Japanaca,

And therefore, there was a indeed a prisoner's dilemma,

i zato, u pitanju je doista zatvorenikova dilema,

which made it very difficult

koja je jako otežala

for an individual company,

pojedinoj kompaniji,

an individual exporting country

pojedinoj zemlji izvoznici

to say, "We are not going to

reći: nećemo

continue this deadly, disastrous

nastaviti s ovom smrtonosnom, katastrofalnom

habit of large companies to bribe."

navikom velikih kompanija da podmićuju.

So this is what I mean

To je ono što mislim

with a failing governance structure,

pod strukturom neuspješnog upravljanja

because even the powerful government,

jer, čak i moćna vlada,

which we have in Germany, comparatively,

kakvu imamo u Njemačkoj, u usporedbi s drugima,

was not able to say,

nije mogla reći,

"We will not allow our companies to bribe abroad."

da nećemo dopustiti našim kompanijama da podmićuju.

They needed help,

Trebala im je pomoć,

and the large companies themselves

a i same velike kompanije

have this dilemma.

su pred dilemom.

Many of them didn't want to bribe.

Mnoge od njih nisu željele nuditi mito.

Many of the German companies, for instance,

Mnoge njemačke kompanije, na primjer,

believe that they are really

vjeruju da doista proizvode

producing a high-quality product

proizvod visoke kvalitete

at a good price, so they are very competitive.

po dobroj cijeni, pa su vrlo konkurentne.

They are not as good at bribing

Nisu tako dobre u podmićivanju

as many of their international competitors are,

kao mnogi od njihovih međunarodnih konkurenata,

but they were not allowed

ali im nije omogućeno

to show their strengths,

da pokažu svoju snagu,

because the world was eaten up

jer je svijet izjeden

by grand corruption.

velikom korupcijom.

And this is why I'm telling you this:

I evo zašto vam ovo pričam,

Civil society rose to the occasion.

civilno društvo je bilo doraslo situaciji.

We had this small NGO,

Imali smo malu nevladinu udrugu,

Transparency International.

Transparency International.

They began to think of

Oni su počeli razmišljati

an escape route from this prisoner's dilemma,

kako pobjeći iz te zatvorenikove dileme,

and we developed concepts

i razvili smo koncepte

of collective action,

združenog djelovanja,

basically trying to bring various competitors

u načelu, pokušavajući dovesti razne konkurente

together around the table,

zajedno za stol,

explaining to all of them

objašnjavajući im svima

how much it would be in their interests

koliko bi bilo u njihovom interesu

if they simultaneously would stop bribing,

ako bi istovremeno prestali podmićivati,

and to make a long story short,

i, da skratim priču,

we managed to eventually

uspjeli smo, naposlijetku,

get Germany to sign

uvjeriti Njemačku da to potpiše,

together with the other OECD countries

zajedno s ostalim OECD zemljama,

and a few other exporters.

i nekolicinom drugih izvoznica.

In 1997, a convention,

Na konvenciji 1997. godine,

under the auspices of the OECD,

pod okriljem OECD-a,

which obliged everybody

na kojoj su svi obvezani

to change their laws

promijeniti svoje zakone

and criminalize foreign bribery.

i kriminalizirati inozemno podmićivanje.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Well, thank you. I mean, it's interesting,

Pa, hvala vam, mislim, zanimljivo je,

in doing this,

baveći se ovime,

we had to sit together with the companies.

morali smo sjesti skupa s kompanijama.

We had here in Berlin, at the Aspen Institute on the Wannsee,

Ovdje u Berlinu, na institutu Aspen na Wannseeju,

we had sessions with about

održali smo skupove s oko

20 captains of industry,

20 lidera industrije,

and we discussed with them

i diskutirali smo s njima

what to do about international bribery.

što učiniti u vezi međunarodnog mita.

In the first session -- we had three sessions

U prvoj seansi, imali smo tri skupa

over the course of two years.

tijekom dvije godine.

And President von Weizsäcker, by the way,

Predsjednik von Weizsäcker, usput,

chaired one of the sessions, the first one,

predsjedavao je jednim od skupova, prvim,

to take the fear away

kako bi odagnao strah

from the entrepreneurs,

poduzetnika,

who were not used to deal

koji nisu bili naviknuti na suradnju

with non-governmental organizations.

s nevladinim organizacijama.

And in the first session, they all said,

I na prvom skupu, svi su rekli,

"This is not bribery, what we are doing." This is customary there.

to nije mito, što činimo. To je ondje uobičajeno.

This is what these other cultures demand.

To je nešto što te druge kulture zahtijevaju.

They even applaud it.

Čak su i pljeskali tome.

In fact, [unclear]

Zapravo, [nejasno]

still says this today.

još i danas to govore.

And so there are still a lot of people

I tako, još uvijek je bilo puno ljudi

who are not convinced that you have to stop bribing.

koji nisu uvjereni da trebamo prestati podmićivati.

But in the second session,

Ali, na drugom skupu

they admitted already that they would never do this,

već su priznali da nikada tako što ne bi činili,

what they are doing in these other countries,

ono što čine u tim drugim zemljama,

here in Germany, or in the U.K., and so on.

ovdje u Njemačkoj, ili u Velikoj Britaniji i slično.

Cabinet ministers would admit this.

Ministri u vladi su to priznali.

And in the final session, at the Aspen Institute,

I na posljednjem skupu na institutu Aspen,

we had them all sign an open letter

postigli smo da svi potpišu otvoreno pismo

to the Kohl government, at the time,

Kohlovoj vladi, koja je bila tada,

requesting that they

zahtijevajući da

participate in the OECD convention.

sudjeluju na konvenciji OECD-a.

And this is, in my opinion,

I to je, po mojem mišljenju,

an example of soft power,

primjer meke snage,

because we were able to convince them

jer smo ih mogli uvjeriti

that they had to go with us.

da nam se moraju pridružiti.

We had a longer-term time perspective.

Imali smo dulju vremensku perspektivu.

We had a broader,

Imali smo veće,

geographically much wider,

zemljopisno puno veće,

constituency we were trying to defend.

stanovništvo koje smo nastojali štititi.

And that's why the law has changed.

I zato se zakon promijenio.

That's why Siemens is now in the trouble they are in

Zbog toga je Siemens sada u nevoljama u kojima jest.

and that's why MIN is in the trouble they are in.

I zato je MIN u nevoljama u kojima jest.

In some other countries, the OECD convention

U nekim drugim zemljama, konvencija OECD-a

is not yet properly enforced.

još nije ispravno provedena.

And, again, civil societies

I, opet, civilna društva

breathing down the neck of the establishment.

pušu u vrat strukturama moći.

In London, for instance,

U Londonu, na primjer,

where the BAE got away

gdje se BAE izvukao

with a huge corruption case,

iz slučaja ogromne korupcije,

which the Serious Fraud Office tried to prosecute,

koji je Ured za prijevare pokušao pravno goniti,

100 million British pounds,

100 milijuna britanskih funti,

every year for ten years,

svake godine tijekom deset godina,

to one particular official of one particular friendly country,

jednom određenom dužnosniku jedne određene prijateljske zemlje,

who then bought for

koji je potom

44 billion pounds of military equipment.

kupio 44 milijardi funti vojne opreme.

This case, they are not prosecuting in the UK.

Taj slučaj ne procesuiraju u Velikoj Britaniji.

Why? Because they consider this

Zašto? Zato što to smatraju

as contrary to the security interest

suprotnim sigurnosnim interesima

of the people of Great Britain.

naroda Velike Britanije.

Civil society is pushing, civil society

Civilno društvo gura, civilno društvo

is trying to get a solution to this problem,

pokušava iznaći rješenje za ovaj problem

also in the U.K.,

i u Velikoj Britaniji

and also in Japan, which is not properly enforcing,

i u Japanu koji ovo ne provodi kako treba,

and so on.

i tako dalje.

In Germany, we are pushing

U Njemačkoj, guramo

the ratification of the UN convention,

ratifikaciju UN konvencije,

which is a subsequent convention.

koja dolazi nakon one.

We are, Germany, is not ratifying.

Mi, Njemačka, ne ratificira.

Why? Because it would make it necessary

Zašto? Zato što bi po njoj bilo nužno

to criminalize the corruption

kriminalizirati korupciju

of deputies.

zamjenika.

In Germany, we have a system where

U Njemačkoj imamo sustav u kojem

you are not allowed to bribe a civil servant,

vam nije dopušteno podmititi dužnosnika,

but you are allowed to bribe a deputy.

ali vam je dopušteno podmititi zamjenika.

This is, under German law, allowed,

Po njemačkom zakonu to je dopušteno.

and the members of our parliament don't want to change this,

I članovi parlamenta to ne žele promijeniti,

and this is why they can't sign

i zato ne mogu potpisati

the U.N. convention against foreign bribery --

UN konvenciju protiv inozemnog podmićivanja,

one of they very, very few countries

jedna od vrlo, vrlo rijetkih zemalja

which is preaching honesty and good governance everywhere in the world,

koja propovijeda poštenje i dobro vladanje širom svijeta,

but not able to ratify the convention,

ali nije u stanju ratificirati konvenciju,

which we managed to get on the books

koju smo uspjeli uvesti

with about 160 countries all over the world.

u nekih 160 zemalja širom svijeta.

I see my time is ticking.

Vidim da mi vrijeme istječe.

Let me just try to

Dopustite da pokušam

draw some conclusions from what has happened.

izvući neke zaključke iz onoga što se dogodilo.

I believe that what we managed to achieve

Vjerujem da ono što smo uspjeli postići

in fighting corruption,

u borbi protiv korupcije,

one can also achieve

čovjek može jednako postići

in other areas of failing governance.

i na drugim područjima neuspješnog upravljanja.

By now, the United Nations

Danas su Ujedinjeni narodi

is totally on our side.

potpuno na našoj strani.

The World Bank has turned from Saulus to Paulus; under Wolfensohn,

Svjetska bana se okrenula od Saulusa k Paulusu pod Wolfensohnom,

they became, I would say, the strongest

i postali su, rekao bih, najjača

anti-corruption agency in the world.

antikorupcijska agencija na svijetu.

Most of the large companies

Većina velikih kompanija

are now totally convinced

je danas potpuno uvjerena

that they have to put in place

da moraju usvojiti

very strong policies

vrlo snažnu politiku

against bribery and so on.

protiv mita i slično.

And this is possible because civil society

A to je moguće zato što se civilno društvo

joined the companies

pridružilo kompanijama

and joined the government

i pridružilo vladi

in the analysis of the problem,

u analizi problema,

in the development of remedies,

u razvijanju rješenja,

in the implementation of reforms,

u uvođenju reformi,

and then later, in the monitoring of reforms.

i, kasnije, u nadziranju reformi.

Of course, if civil society organizations

Naravno, ako organizacije civilnog društva

want to play that role,

žele takvu ulogu,

they have to grow into this responsibility.

moraju sazrijeti za tu odgovornost.

Not all civil society organizations are good.

Nisu sve organizacije civilnog društva dobre.

The Ku Klux Klan is an NGO.

Ku Klux Klan je nevladina organizacija.

So, we must be aware

Dakle, moramo biti svjesni

that civil society

da civilno društvo

has to shape up itself.

mora i sebe oblikovati.

They have to have a much more

Moraju imati puno

transparent financial governance.

transparentnije upravljanje financijama.

They have to have a much more participatory governance

Moraju puno više surađivati

in many civil society organizations.

u mnogim organizacijama civilnog društva.

We also need much more competence of civil society leaders.

Također nam treba i puno više kompetentnosti vođa civilnog društva.

This is why we have set up the governance school

Iz tog razloga moramo uspostaviti školu upravljanja

and the Center for Civil Society here in Berlin,

i Centar za civilno društvo ovdje u Berlinu.

because we believe most of our educational

Zato što vjerujemo da se većina naših obrazovnih

and research institutions in Germany

i istraživačkih institucija u Njemačkoj

and continental Europe in general,

i kontinentalnoj Europi općenito,

do not focus enough, yet,

ne usmjerava dovoljno, još uvijek,

on empowering civil society

na jačanje civilnog društva

and training the leadership of civil society.

i obučavanje vodstva civilnog društva.

But what I'm saying from my very practical experience:

Ono što govorim iz svog vrlo praktičnog iskustva,

If civil society does it right

ako civilno društvo dobro radi

and joins the other actors --

i pridruži se drugim igračima,

in particular, governments,

konkretno, vladama,

governments and their international institutions,

vladama i drugim međunarodnim institucijama,

but also large international actors,

ali i velikim međunarodnim igračima,

in particular those which have committed themselves

konkretno, onima koji su se posvetili

to corporate social responsibility --

korporativnoj društvenoj odgovornosti,

then in this magical triangle

tada, u tom čarobnom trokutu,

between civil society,

između civilnog društva,

government and private sector,

vlade i privatnog sektora,

there is a tremendous chance

svi mi imamo ogromnu priliku

for all of us to create a better world.

stvoriti bolji svijet.

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)