Peter Eigen: How to expose the corrupt

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I am going to speak about corruption,
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but I would like to juxtapose
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two different things.
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One is the large global economy,
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the large globalized economy,
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and the other one is the small, and very limited,
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capacity of our traditional governments
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and their international institutions
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to govern, to shape, this economy.
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Because there is this asymmetry,
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which creates, basically,
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failing governance.
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Failing governance in many areas:
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in the area of corruption and the area of destruction of the environment,
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in the area of exploitation of women and children,
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in the area of climate change,
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in all the areas in which we really need
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a capacity to reintroduce
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the primacy of politics
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into the economy,
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which is operating in a worldwide arena.
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And I think corruption,
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and the fight against corruption,
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and the impact of corruption,
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is probably one of the most interesting ways
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to illustrate what I mean
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with this failure of governance.
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Let me talk about my own experience.
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I used to work as the director
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of the World Bank office in Nairobi
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for East Africa.
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At that time, I noticed
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that corruption, that grand corruption,
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that systematic corruption,
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was undermining everything we were trying to do.
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And therefore, I began
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to not only try to protect
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the work of the World Bank,
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our own projects, our own programs
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against corruption,
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but in general, I thought, "We need a system
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to protect the people
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in this part of the world
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from the ravages of corruption."
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And as soon as I started this work,
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I received a memorandum from the World Bank,
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from the legal department first,
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in which they said, "You are not allowed to do this.
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You are meddling in the internal affairs of our partner countries.
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This is forbidden by the charter of the World Bank,
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so I want you to stop your doings."
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In the meantime, I was chairing
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donor meetings, for instance,
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in which the various donors,
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and many of them like to be in Nairobi --
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it is true, it is one of the
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unsafest cities of the world,
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but they like to be there because the other cities
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are even less comfortable.
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And in these donor meetings, I noticed
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that many of the worst projects --
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which were put forward
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by our clients, by the governments,
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by promoters,
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many of them representing
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suppliers from the North --
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that the worst projects
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were realized first.
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Let me give you an example:
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a huge power project,
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300 million dollars,
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to be built smack into
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one of the most vulnerable, and one of the most beautiful,
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areas of western Kenya.
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And we all noticed immediately
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that this project had no economic benefits:
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It had no clients, nobody would buy the electricity there,
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nobody was interested in irrigation projects.
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To the contrary, we knew that this project
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would destroy the environment:
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It would destroy riparian forests,
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which were the basis for
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the survival of nomadic groups,
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the Samburu and the Turkana in this area.
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So everybody knew this is a, not a useless project,
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this is an absolute damaging, a terrible project --
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not to speak about the future indebtedness of the country
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for these hundreds of millions of dollars,
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and the siphoning off
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of the scarce resources of the economy
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from much more important activities
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like schools, like hospitals and so on.
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And yet, we all rejected this project,
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none of the donors was willing
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to have their name connected with it,
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and it was the first project to be implemented.
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The good projects, which we as a donor community
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would take under our wings,
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they took years, you know,
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you had too many studies,
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and very often they didn't succeed.
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But these bad projects,
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which were absolutely damaging -- for the economy
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for many generations, for the environment,
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for thousands of families who had to be resettled --
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they were suddenly put together
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by consortia of banks,
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of supplier agencies,
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of insurance agencies --
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like in Germany, Hermes, and so on --
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and they came back very, very quickly,
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driven by an unholy alliance
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between the powerful elites
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in the countries there
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and the suppliers from the North.
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Now, these suppliers
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were our big companies.
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They were the actors of this global market,
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which I mentioned in the beginning.
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They were the Siemenses of this world,
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coming from France, from the UK, from Japan,
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from Canada, from Germany,
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and they were systematically driven
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by systematic, large-scale corruption.
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We are not talking about
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50,000 dollars here,
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or 100,000 dollars there, or one million dollars there.
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No, we are talking about 10 million, 20 million dollars
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on the Swiss bank accounts,
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on the bank accounts of Liechtenstein,
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of the president's ministers,
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the high officials in the para-statal sectors.
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This was the reality which I saw,
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and not only one project like that:
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I saw, I would say,
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over the years I worked in Africa,
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I saw hundreds of projects like this.
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And so, I became convinced
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that it is this systematic corruption
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which is perverting economic policy-making in these countries,
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which is the main reason
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for the misery, for the poverty,
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for the conflicts, for the violence,
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for the desperation
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in many of these countries.
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That we have today
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more than a billion people below the absolute poverty line,
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that we have more than a billion people
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without proper drinking water in the world,
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twice that number,
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more than two billion people
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without sanitation and so on,
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and the consequent illnesses
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of mothers and children,
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still, child mortality of more than
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10 million people every year,
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children dying before they are five years old:
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The cause of this is, to a large extent,
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grand corruption.
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Now, why did the World Bank
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not let me do this work?
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I found out afterwards,
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after I left, under a big fight, the World Bank.
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The reason was that the members of the World Bank
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thought that foreign bribery was okay,
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including Germany.
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In Germany, foreign bribery was allowed.
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It was even tax-deductible.
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No wonder that most of the most important
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international operators in Germany,
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but also in France and the UK
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and Scandinavia, everywhere, systematically bribed.
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Not all of them, but most of them.
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And this is the phenomenon
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which I call failing governance,
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because when I then came to Germany
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and started this little NGO
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here in Berlin, at the Villa Borsig,
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we were told, "You cannot stop
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our German exporters from bribing,
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because we will lose our contracts.
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We will lose to the French,
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we will lose to the Swedes, we'll lose to the Japanese."
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And therefore, there was a indeed a prisoner's dilemma,
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which made it very difficult
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for an individual company,
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an individual exporting country
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to say, "We are not going to
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continue this deadly, disastrous
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habit of large companies to bribe."
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So this is what I mean
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with a failing governance structure,
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because even the powerful government,
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which we have in Germany, comparatively,
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was not able to say,
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"We will not allow our companies to bribe abroad."
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They needed help,
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and the large companies themselves
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have this dilemma.
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Many of them didn't want to bribe.
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Many of the German companies, for instance,
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believe that they are really
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producing a high-quality product
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at a good price, so they are very competitive.
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They are not as good at bribing
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as many of their international competitors are,
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but they were not allowed
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to show their strengths,
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because the world was eaten up
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by grand corruption.
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And this is why I'm telling you this:
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Civil society rose to the occasion.
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We had this small NGO,
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Transparency International.
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They began to think of
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an escape route from this prisoner's dilemma,
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and we developed concepts
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of collective action,
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basically trying to bring various competitors
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together around the table,
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explaining to all of them
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how much it would be in their interests
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if they simultaneously would stop bribing,
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and to make a long story short,
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we managed to eventually
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get Germany to sign
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together with the other OECD countries
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and a few other exporters.
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In 1997, a convention,
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under the auspices of the OECD,
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which obliged everybody
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to change their laws
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and criminalize foreign bribery.
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(Applause)
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Well, thank you. I mean, it's interesting,
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in doing this,
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we had to sit together with the companies.
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We had here in Berlin, at the Aspen Institute on the Wannsee,
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we had sessions with about
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20 captains of industry,
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and we discussed with them
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what to do about international bribery.
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In the first session -- we had three sessions
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over the course of two years.
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And President von Weizsäcker, by the way,
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chaired one of the sessions, the first one,
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to take the fear away
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from the entrepreneurs,
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who were not used to deal
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with non-governmental organizations.
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And in the first session, they all said,
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"This is not bribery, what we are doing." This is customary there.
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This is what these other cultures demand.
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They even applaud it.
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In fact, [unclear]
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still says this today.
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And so there are still a lot of people
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who are not convinced that you have to stop bribing.
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But in the second session,
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they admitted already that they would never do this,
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what they are doing in these other countries,
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here in Germany, or in the U.K., and so on.
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Cabinet ministers would admit this.
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And in the final session, at the Aspen Institute,
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we had them all sign an open letter
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to the Kohl government, at the time,
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requesting that they
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participate in the OECD convention.
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And this is, in my opinion,
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an example of soft power,
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because we were able to convince them
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that they had to go with us.
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We had a longer-term time perspective.
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We had a broader,
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geographically much wider,
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constituency we were trying to defend.
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And that's why the law has changed.
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That's why Siemens is now in the trouble they are in
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and that's why MIN is in the trouble they are in.
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In some other countries, the OECD convention
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is not yet properly enforced.
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And, again, civil societies
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breathing down the neck of the establishment.
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In London, for instance,
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where the BAE got away
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with a huge corruption case,
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which the Serious Fraud Office tried to prosecute,
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100 million British pounds,
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every year for ten years,
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to one particular official of one particular friendly country,
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who then bought for
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44 billion pounds of military equipment.
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This case, they are not prosecuting in the UK.
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Why? Because they consider this
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as contrary to the security interest
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of the people of Great Britain.
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Civil society is pushing, civil society
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is trying to get a solution to this problem,
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also in the U.K.,
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and also in Japan, which is not properly enforcing,
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and so on.
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In Germany, we are pushing
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the ratification of the UN convention,
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which is a subsequent convention.
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We are, Germany, is not ratifying.
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Why? Because it would make it necessary
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to criminalize the corruption
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of deputies.
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In Germany, we have a system where
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you are not allowed to bribe a civil servant,
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but you are allowed to bribe a deputy.
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This is, under German law, allowed,
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and the members of our parliament don't want to change this,
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and this is why they can't sign
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the U.N. convention against foreign bribery --
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one of they very, very few countries
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which is preaching honesty and good governance everywhere in the world,
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but not able to ratify the convention,
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which we managed to get on the books
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with about 160 countries all over the world.
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I see my time is ticking.
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Let me just try to
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draw some conclusions from what has happened.
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I believe that what we managed to achieve
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in fighting corruption,
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one can also achieve
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in other areas of failing governance.
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By now, the United Nations
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is totally on our side.
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The World Bank has turned from Saulus to Paulus; under Wolfensohn,
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they became, I would say, the strongest
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anti-corruption agency in the world.
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Most of the large companies
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are now totally convinced
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that they have to put in place
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very strong policies
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against bribery and so on.
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And this is possible because civil society
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joined the companies
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and joined the government
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in the analysis of the problem,
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in the development of remedies,
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in the implementation of reforms,
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and then later, in the monitoring of reforms.
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Of course, if civil society organizations
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want to play that role,
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they have to grow into this responsibility.
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Not all civil society organizations are good.
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The Ku Klux Klan is an NGO.
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So, we must be aware
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that civil society
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has to shape up itself.
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They have to have a much more
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transparent financial governance.
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They have to have a much more participatory governance
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in many civil society organizations.
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We also need much more competence of civil society leaders.
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This is why we have set up the governance school
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and the Center for Civil Society here in Berlin,
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because we believe most of our educational
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and research institutions in Germany
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and continental Europe in general,
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do not focus enough, yet,
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on empowering civil society
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and training the leadership of civil society.
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But what I'm saying from my very practical experience:
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If civil society does it right
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and joins the other actors --
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in particular, governments,
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governments and their international institutions,
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but also large international actors,
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in particular those which have committed themselves
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to corporate social responsibility --
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then in this magical triangle
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between civil society,
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government and private sector,
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there is a tremendous chance
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for all of us to create a better world.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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