What's your 200-year plan? | Raghava KK

Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast

Prevoditelj: Danijela Rako Recezent: Suzana Baric

About 75 years ago,

Prije otprilike 75 godina

my grandfather, a young man,

moj djed, mladić,

walked into a tent

ušetao je u šator

that was converted into a

koji je bio pretvoren u

movie theater like that,

kino kao što je ovo

and he fell hopelessly in love

i beznadno se zaljubio

with the woman he saw on the

u ženu koju je vidio

silver screen: none other than Mae West,

na filmskom ekranu: nitko drugi nego Mae West,

the heartthrob of the '30s,

miljenica 30-ih godina

and he could never forget her.

i nije je mogao nikako zaboraviti.

In fact, when he had his daughter

Zapravo, kad mu se rodila kći

many years later, he wanted to

nakon mnogo godina, htio ju je

name her after Mae West,

nazvati Mae West,

but can you imagine an Indian

ali možete li zamisliti Mae West kao

child name Mae West?

ime za indijsko dijete?

The Indian family said, no way!

Indijska obitelj je rekla: nema šanse!

So when my twin brother Kaesava

Pa kad se moj brat blizanac Kaesava

was born, he decided to tinker

rodio, odlučio se poigrati

with the spelling of Keshava's name.

s poretkom slova u imenu Keshava.

He said, if Mae West can be M-A-E,

Rekao je: ako Mae West može biti M-A-E,

why can't Keshava be K-A-E?

zašto Keshava ne bi bio K-A-E?

So he changed Kaesava's spelling.

Tako je promijenio Kaesavin poredak slova u imenu.

Now Kaesava had a baby boy

Onda se Kaesavi rodio dječačić

called Rehan a couple of weeks ago.

kojeg su nazvali Rehan prije nekoliko tjedana.

He decided to spell, or, rather,

Odlučio je napisati ili, radije,

misspell Raehan with an A-E.

pogrešno napisati Raehan s A-E.

You know, my grandfather died

Znate, moj djed je umro

many years ago when I was

prije mnogo godina dok sam bio

little, but his love for Mae

mali, no njegova ljubav prema Mae

West lives on as a misspelling

West živi kao pogrešno napisana riječ

in the DNA of his progeny.

u DNK njegovog potomstva.

That for me is successful legacy. (Laughs)

Za mene je to uspješno naslijeđe. (Smije se)

You know, as for me,

Znate, što se mene tiče,

my wife and I have our own

moja žena i ja imamo svoj vlastiti

crazy legacy project.

ludi projekt naslijeđa.

We actually sit every few years,

Mi svakih nekoliko godina sjednemo,

argue, disagree, fight,

raspravljamo, prepiremo se, svađamo se

and actually come up with our

i na kraju smislimo naš

very own 200-year plan.

vlastiti 200-godišnji plan.

Our friends think we're mad.

Naši prijatelji misle da smo ludi.

Our parents think we're cuckoo.

Naši roditelji misle da smo šašavi.

Because, you know, we both

Zato što, znate, oboje

come from families that really

dolazimo iz obitelji koje zaista

look up to humility and wisdom,

poštuju poniznost i mudrost,

but we both like to live

no mi oboje volimo živjeti

larger than life.

izvan okvira stvarnosti.

I believe in the concept of

Vjeujem u koncept

a Raja Yogi: Be a dude before

Raja Yogi: Budi frajer prije

you can become an ascetic.

nego postaneš asket.

This is me being a rock star,

Ovo sam ja kao rock zvijezda

even if it's in my own house.

čak i ako je to samo u mojoj kući.

You know?

Znate?

So when Netra and I sat down

Kad smo Netra i ja sjeli

to make our first plan

da napravimo svoj prvi plan

10 years ago, we said

prije 10 godina, rekli smo

we want the focus of this plan

da fokus ovog plana

to go way beyond ourselves.

ode daleko iznad nas samih.

What do we mean by beyond ourselves?

Što mislimo kada kažemo "iznad nas samih"?

Well 200 years, we calculated,

Dakle, izračunali smo da je 200 godina

is at the end of our direct

na kraju našeg izravnog

contact with the world.

dodira sa svijetom.

There's nobody I'll meet in

Nitko koga upoznam u

my life will ever live beyond

svome životu neće živjeti više od

200 years, so we thought

200 godina, pa smo mislili

that's a perfect place where

kako je to savršeno vrijeme u kojem

we should situate our plan and

bismo trebali smjestiti naš plan i

let our imagination take flight.

pustiti mašti na volju.

You know, I never really

Znate, zapravo nikad

believed in legacy. What am I

nisam vjerovao u naslijeđe. Što ću ostaviti

going to leave behind? I'm an artist.

za sobom? Ja sam umjetnik.

Until I made a cartoon about 9/11.

Dok nisam napravio karikaturu o 11. rujnu.

It caused so much trouble for me.

To mi je prouzročilo mnogo problema.

I was so upset.

Bio sam tako uzrujan.

You know, a cartoon that was

Znate, karikatura koja je

meant to be a cartoon of the week

trebala biti karikatura tjedna

ended up staying so much longer.

na kraju se zadržala puno dulje.

Now I'm in the business of

Sada mi je posao

creating art that will

stvoriti umjetničko djelo koje će

definitely even outlive me, and

me sigurno nadživjeti i

I think about what I want to

razmišljam o tome što želim

leave behind through those paintings.

ostaviti iza sebe s tim slikama.

You know, the 9/11 cartoon

Znate, karikatura o 11. rujnu

upset me so much that I decided

me toliko uzrujala da sam odlučio

I'll never cartoon again.

da više nikad neću raditi karikature.

I said, I'm never going to make any

Rekao sam, više nikad neću

honest public commentary again.

dati iskren i javni komentar.

But of course I continued

Ali, naravno, nastavio sam

creating artwork that was honest

stvarati umjetničke radove koje su bili iskreni

and raw, because I forgot about

i sirovi, zato što sam zaboravio

how people reacted to my work.

kako su ljudi reagirali na moje radove.

You know, sometimes forgetting

Znate, ponekad je zaboravljanje

is so important to remain idealistic.

jako važno da bi se ostalo idealistom.

Perhaps loss of memory is so

Možda je gubljenje sjećanja

crucial for our survival

presudno za naš opstanak

as human beings.

kao ljudska bića.

One of the most important things

Jedna od najvažnijih stvari

in my 200-year plan that Netra

u mom 200-godišnjem planu koji Netra

and I write is what to forget

i ja pišemo jest što da zaboravimo

about ourselves.

o nama.

You know, we carry so much

Znate, nosimo sa sobom toliko

baggage, from our parents,

prtljage, naših roditelja,

from our society, from so many

našeg društva, toliko

people -- fears, insecurities -- and

ljudi - strahova, nesigurnosti - i

our 200-year plan really lists

naš 200-godišnji plan stvarno nabraja

all our childhood problems that we have to expire.

sve naše probleme iz djetinjstva koje trebamo prebroditi.

We actually put an expiry date

Zapravo stavljamo rok trajanja

on all our childhood problems.

na naše probleme iz djetinjstva.

The latest date I put was,

Zadnji rok koji sam postavio je,

I said, I am going to expire

rekao sam, da ću prevladati

my fear of my leftist, feminist

svoj strah od svoje lijevoorijentirane, feminističke

mother-in-law, and this

punice i to

today is the date! (Laughs)

je današnji datum! (Smije se)

She's watching. (Laughter)

Upravo gleda. (Smijeh)

Anyway, you know, I really

Kako god, znate, zaista

make decisions all the time

cijelo vrijeme donosim odluke

about how I want to remember

o tome kako želim pamtiti

myself, and that's the most important

samog sebe i to je najvažnija

kind of decisions I make.

vrsta odluke koju donosim.

And this directly translates

I to se izravno ocrtava

into my paintings.

u mojim slikama.

But like my friends, I can do

No, poput mojih prijatelja. to mogu napraviti

that really well on Facebook,

vrlo dobro na Facebooku,

Pinterest, Twitter, Flickr, YouTube.

Pinterestu, Twitteru, Flickeru. YouTubeu.

Name it, I'm on it.

Navedite bilo što i ja sam tamo.

I've started outsourcing my

Počeo sam prenositi svoja

memory to the digital world,

sjećanja u digitalni svijet.,

you know? But that comes

znate? No, to je popraćeno

with a problem.

problemom.

It's so easy to think of

Lako je shvaćati

technology as a metaphor

tehnologiju kao metaforu

for memory, but our brains

za sjećanje, no naši mozgovi

are not perfect storage devices

nisu savršeni mehanizmi za pohranu

like technology.

kao što je to tehnologija.

We only remember what we

Sjećamo se samo onoga

want to. At least I do.

čega se želimo sjećati. Barem je tako kod mene.

And I rather think of our brains

I radije bih shvaćao naše mozgove kao

as biased curators of our

pristrane urednike našeg

memory, you know? And if

sjećanja, znate? I ako

technology is not a metaphor for

tehnologija nije metafora za

memory, what is it?

sjećanje, što jest?

Netra and I use our technology

Netra i ja koristimo našu tehnologiju

as a tool in our 200-year plan

kao alat u našem 200-godišnjem planu

to really curate our digital legacy.

kako bismo zaista uredili naše digitalno naslijeđe.

That is a picture of my mother,

Ovo je slika moje majke

and she recently got a Facebook account.

i nedavno je otvorila Facebook profil.

You know where this is going.

Znate kamo ovo vodi.

And I've been very supportive

I jako sam je podupirao,

until this picture shows up

sve dok se ova slika nije pojavila

on my Facebook page. (Laughter)

na mojoj Facebook stranici. (Smijeh)

And I actually untagged myself

I prvo sam skinuo svoj tag,

first, then I picked up the

onda sam je nazvao.

phone. I said, "Mom, you will

Rekao sam: "Mama, više

never put a picture of me

nikad nećeš staviti sliku

in a bikini ever again."

mene u bikiniju."

And she said, "Why? You look

A ona je rekla: "Zašto? Izgledaš

so cute, darling." I said,

tako slatko, dušo." Rekao sam:

"You just don't understand."

" Ne razumiješ."

Maybe we are among the first

Možda smo mi među prvim

generation that really understands

generacijama koje stvarno razumiju

this digital curating of ourselves.

to digitalno uredništvo nas samih.

Maybe we are the first to even

Možda smo mi prvi koji

actively record our lives.

aktivno bilježe svoje živote.

You know, whether you

Znate, slažete li se

agree with, you know, legacy

s naslijeđem

or not, we are actually leaving

ili ne, mi zapravo cijelo vrijeme

behind digital traces all the time.

za sobom ostavljamo digitalne tragove.

So Netra and I really wanted

Tako da smo Netra i ja stvarno željeli

to use our 200-year plan

iskoristiti naš 200-godišnji plan

to curate this digital legacy,

da uredimo naše digitalno naslijeđe

and not only digital legacy

i ne samo digitalno naslijeđe,

but we believe in curating

već vjerujemo u uređivanje

the legacy of my past

naslijeđa moje prošlosti

and future.

i budućnosti.

How, you may ask?

Kako, pitat ćete?

Well, when I think of the future,

Dakle, kad razmišljam o budućnosti,

I never see myself moving forward

nikad se ne vidim kako se krećem prema naprijed

in time. I actually see time

u vremenu. Zapravo vidim vrijeme

moving backward towards me.

kako se kreće unatrag prema meni.

I can actually visualize

Zaista mogu predočiti

my future approaching.

svoju budućnost kako mi se približava.

I can dodge what I don't want

Mogu izbjeći što ne želim

and pull in what I want.

i privući što želim.

It's like a video game obstacle

To je kao prepreka u utrci

course. And I've gotten better and better

u video igrici. I postao sam sve bolji i bolji

at doing this. Even when I make

u ovome. Čak i kad napravim

a painting, I actually imagine

sliku, zamišljam

I'm behind the painting,

da sam iza slike,

it already exists, and

da već postoji, i da

someone's looking at it,

je netko promatra

and I see whether they're

i vidim osjeća li je

feeling it from their gut.

iz svoje dubine.

Are they feeling it from their

Osjeća li je iz svog

heart, or is it just a cerebral thing?

srca ili je to tek povezano s mozgom?

And it really informs my painting.

I to zaista obavještava moje slikanje.

Even when I do an art show,

Čak i kad imam izložbu,

I really think about, what should

stvarno razmišljam sa čime

people walk away with?

bi ljudi trebali otići.

I remember when I was 19,

Sjećam se kad sam imao 19,

I did, I wanted to do my first

imao sam, htio sam imati svoju prvu

art exhibition, and I wanted the

izložbu i htio sam da

whole world to know about it.

cijeli svijet to zna.

I didn't know TED then,

Tada nisam znao za TED,

but what I did was I closed

no što sam učino je da sam čvrsto

my eyes tight, and I started

zatvorio oči i počeo sam

dreaming. I could imagine people

sanjariti. Mogao sam zamisliti ljude

coming in, dressed up, looking

kako ulaze, lijepo obučeni, izgledaju

beautiful, my paintings with all

prekrasno, moje slike pod

the light, and in my visualization

svim svjetlima i u svojoj predodžbi

I actually saw a very famous

zaista sam vidio vrlo slavnu

actress launching my show,

glumicu kako otvara moju izložbu,

giving credibility to me.

daje mi vjerodostojnost.

And I woke up from my

Probudio sam se iz svoje

visualization and I said,

predodžbe i rekao:

who was that? I couldn't tell

Tko je to bio? Nisam mogao shvatiti

if it was Shabana Azmi or Rekha,

je li to bila Shabana Azmi ili Rekha,

two very famous Indian actresses,

dvije vrlo poznate indijske glumice,

like the Meryl Streeps of India.

poput Maryl Streep Indije.

As it turned out, next morning

Na kraju je ispalo da sam sljedeće jutro

I wrote a letter to both of them,

napisao pismo i jednoj i drugoj

and Shabana Azmi replied,

i Shabana Azmi je odgovorila

and came and launched

i došla otvoriti

my very first show 12 years ago.

moju prvu izložbu prije 12 godina.

And what a bang it started

I s kakvim praskom je

my career with! You know,

moja karijera započela! Znate,

when we think of time in this

kad razmišljamo o vremenu

way, we can curate not only the

na ovaj način, možemo urediti ne samo

future but also the past.

budućnost nego i prošlost.

This is a picture of my family,

Ovo je slika moje obitelji,

and that is Netra, my wife.

a ovo je Netra, moja žena.

She's the co-creator of my

Ona je suradnik u stvaranju mog

200-year plan.

200-godišnjeg plana.

Netra's a high school history

Netra je profesor povijesti u srednjoj školi.

teacher. I love Netra,

Volim Netru,

but I hate history.

ali mrzim povijest.

I keep saying, "Nets, you live

Neprestano govorim: "Nets, ti živiš

in the past while I'll create

u prošlosti dok ja stvaram

the future, and when I'm done,

budućnost, a kad završim,

you can study about it."

ti možeš to proučavati."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

She gave me an indulgent smile,

Obzirno mi se nasmiješila

and as punishment, she said,

i kao kaznu rekla:

"Tomorrow I'm teaching a class

"Sutra poučavam razred o

on Indian history, and you are

indijskoj povijesti i ti ćeš ga

sitting in it, and I'm grading you."

odslušati i dat ću ti ocjenu."

I'm like, "Oh, God." I went.

Rekao sam: "Oh Bože."

I actually went and sat in

Stvarno sam otišao i odslušao

on her class. She started by

njezino predavanje. Započela je

giving students primary source

dajući učenicima izvorne

documents from India, Pakistan,

dokumente iz Indije, Pakistana,

from Britain, and I said,

iz Velike Britanije i rekao sam:

"Wow." Then she asked them to

"Opa." Onda ih je zatražila da

separate fact from bias.

razdvoje činjenice od pristranog mišljenja.

I said, "Wow," again.

Ponovno sam rekao: "Opa."

Then she said, "Choose your

Onda je rekla: "Izaberite svoje

facts and biases and create an

činjenice i pristrana mišljenja i stvorite

image of your own story

sliku vlastite

of dignity."

dostojanstvene priče."

History as an imaging tool?

Povijest kao alat mašte?

I was so inspired.

Bio sam toliko nadahnut.

I went and created my own

Stvorio sam vlastitu

version of Indian history.

verziju indijske povijesti.

I actually included stories from

Uključio sam priče

my grandmother.

svoje bake.

She used to work for the

Radila je za

telephone exchange, and she used

telefonsku centralu i

to actually overhear conversations

slučajno bi čula razgovore

between Nehru and Edwina Mountbatten.

između Nehrua i Edwine Mountbatten.

And she used to hear all

I znala je čuti svakakve

kinds of things she shouldn't

stvari koje nije trebala

have heard. But, you know,

čuti. Ali, znate,

I include things like that.

uključujem i takve stvari.

This is my version of Indian history.

To je moja verzija indijske povijesti.

You know, if this

Znate, ako je

is so, it occurred to me that

to tako, palo mi je na pamet da

maybe, just maybe, the primary

možda, možda je osnovna

objective of our brains

svrha naših mozgova

is to serve our dignity.

da služi našoj dostojanstvenosti.

Go tell Facebook to

Recite Facebooku da

figure that out!

to shvati!

Netra and I don't write our

Netra i ja ne pišemo naš

200-year plan for someone else

200-godišnji plan za nekoga drugoga

to come and execute it

da dođe i izvrši ga

in 150 years. Imagine receiving

u 150 godina. Zamislite da ste primili

a parcel saying, from the past,

paket iz prošlosti koji kaže:

okay now you're supposed to

U redu, sad bi trebao

spend the rest of your life

provesti ostatak života

doing all of this. No.

čineći sve ovo. Ne.

We actually write it only

Zapravo to pišemo samo kako bismo

to set our attitudes right.

pravilno postavili svoje stavove.

You know, I used to believe

Znate, vjerovao sam

that education is the most

da je obrazovanje

important tool to leave

najvažniji alat kojim se ostavlja

a meaningful legacy.

značajno naslijeđe.

Education is great.

Obrazovanje je odlično.

It really teaches us who

Zaista nas uči

we are, and helps us

tko smo i pomaže nam

contextualize ourselves

staviti sebe same u kontekst

in the world, but it's really

svijeta, no zapravo me

my creativity that's taught me

moja kreativnost naučila

that I can be much more

da mogu biti mnogo više

than what my education told me I am.

nego što mi je moje obrazovanje reklo da jesam.

I'd like to make

Volio bih dati

the argument that creativity is

argument da je kreativnost

the most important tool we have.

najvažniji alat koji imamo.

It lets us create who we are,

Pomaže nam stvoriti ono što jesmo

and curate what is to come.

i urediti ono što slijedi.

I like to think -- Thank you.

Volim zamišljati -- Hvala.

I like to think of myself

Volim se zamišljati

as a storyteller, where my past

kao pripovjedača, gdje su moja prošlost

and my future are only stories,

i moja budućnost jedine priče,

my stories, waiting to be told

moje priče, koje tek treba ispričati

and retold. I hope all of you

i ponovno ispričati. Nadam se da ćete vi svi

one day get a chance to

jednoga dana dobiti priliku

share and write your own

podijeliti i napisati vlastitu

200-year story.

200-godišnju priču.

Thank you so much.

Puno vam hvala.

Shukran! (Applause)

Hvala! (Pljesak)