Military robots and the future of war | P.W. Singer

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Prevoditelj: Stjepan Mateljan Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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I thought I'd begin with a scene of war.
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Mislio sam početi sa prikazom rata.
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There was little to warn of the danger ahead.
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Malo toga je upozoravalo na opasnost sprijeda.
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The Iraqi insurgent had placed the IED,
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Irački su pobunjenici postavili IED,
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an Improvised Explosive Device,
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Improvised Explosive Device (Improvizirani eksplozivni uređaj),
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along the side of the road with great care.
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pokraj ceste s velikom pažnjom.
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By 2006, there were more than 2,500
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Do 2006, bilo je više od 2.500
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of these attacks every single month,
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takvih napada svaki pojedini mjesec,
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and they were the leading cause of
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i oni su bili vodeći uzrok
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casualties among American soldiers
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žrtava među američkim vojnicima
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and Iraqi civilians.
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i iračkim civilima.
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The team that was hunting for this IED
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Tim koji je lovio za takvim IED-ima
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is called an EOD team—
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se zove EOD tim --
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Explosives Ordinance Disposal—and
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Explosives Ordinance Disposal (uklanjanje eksplozivnih naprava) -- i
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they're the pointy end of the spear in the
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oni su oštri vrh koplja u
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American effort to suppress these roadside bombs.
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američkom naporu da suzbije takve drumske bombe.
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Each EOD team goes out on about
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Svaki EOD tim izlazi na otprilike
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600 of these bomb calls every year,
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600 takvih bombaških poziva svake godine,
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defusing about two bombs a day.
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razoružavajući otprilike dvije bombe dnevno.
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Perhaps the best sign of how valuable they
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Možda je najbolji znak koliko su vrijedni
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are to the war effort, is that
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u ratnom pothvatu, je kako
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the Iraqi insurgents put a $50,000 bounty
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su irački pobunjenici stavili nagradu od 50.000 dolara
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on the head of a single EOD soldier.
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na glavu pojedinog EOD vojnika.
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Unfortunately, this particular call
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Nažalost, ovaj naročit poziv
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would not end well.
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neće završiti dobro.
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By the time the soldier advanced close
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Do vremena kad vojnici napreduju dovoljno
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enough to see the telltale wires
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blizu da vide izdajničke žice
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of the bomb, it exploded in a wave of flame.
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bombe, eksplodirala je u valu plamena.
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Now, depending how close you are
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Sad, ovisno koliko ste blizu
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and how much explosive has been packed
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i koliko je eksploziva bilo postavljeno
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into that bomb, it can cause death
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u tu bombu, može uzrokovati smrt
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or injury. You have to be as far as
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ili ozlijedu. Morali bi biti čak oko
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50 yards away to escape that.
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50 jarda (~46 metara) udaljeni da to izbjegnete.
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The blast is so strong it can even break
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Udar je tako jak da može čak slomiti
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your limbs, even if you're not hit.
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udove, čak i ako niste pogođeni.
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That soldier had been on top of the bomb.
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Ovaj je vojnik bio točno na bombi.
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And so when the rest of the team advanced
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Tako da dok je ostatak tima napredovao
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they found little left. And that night the unit's
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našli su malo ostataka. A te je noći zapovjednik
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commander did a sad duty, and he wrote
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jedinice izvršio tužnu dužnost i napisao
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a condolence letter back to the United
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pismenu sućut za poslati u Sjedinjene
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States, and he talked about how hard the
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države, gdje je pričao kako je težak
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loss had been on his unit, about the fact
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to bio gubitak za jedinicu, te o činjenici
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that they had lost their bravest soldier,
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kako su izgubili svog najhrabrijeg vojnika,
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a soldier who had saved their lives
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vojnika koji im je spasio živote
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many a time.
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više puta.
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And he apologized
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I ispričao se
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for not being able to bring them home.
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zato što nije u mogućnosti vratiti ih doma.
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But then he talked up the silver lining
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Ali tada je pričao o sretnom detalju
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that he took away from the loss.
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koji je uočio u ovom gubitku.
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"At least," as he wrote, "when a robot dies,
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"Barem", pisao je, "kad pogine robot,
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you don't have to write a letter
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ne morate pisati pismo
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to its mother."
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njegovoj majci."
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That scene sounds like science fiction,
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Ova scena zvuči poput znanstvene fantastike,
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but is battlefield reality already.
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ali to je stvarnost na bojištu već sada.
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The soldier in that case
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Vojnik je u ovom slučaju
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was a 42-pound robot called a PackBot.
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bio 42 funte (~19 kg) težak robot imenom PackBot.
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The chief's letter went, not to some
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Zapovjednikovo pismo nije išlo na neku
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farmhouse in Iowa like you see
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farmu u Iowu, kao što vidite
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in the old war movies, but went to
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u starim ratnim filmovima, nego je išlo
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the iRobot Company, which is
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kompaniji iRobot, koja je
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named after the Asimov novel
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dobila ime po Asimovljevoj zbirci pripovjedaka
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and the not-so-great Will Smith movie,
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i ne tako dobrom filmu s Will Smithom,
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and... um... (Laughter)...
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i... hm.. (Smijeh)...
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if you remember that
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Ako se sjećate kako
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in that fictional world, robots started out
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u izmišljenom svijetu, roboti su počeli
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carrying out mundane chores, and then
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izvršavati svakodnevne zadatke, a onda
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they started taking on life-and-death decisions.
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su počeli donositi odluke o životu ili smrti.
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That's a reality we face today.
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To je stvarnost kojoj smo sučeljeni danas.
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What we're going to do is actually just
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Što ćemo učiniti je zbilja samo
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flash a series of photos behind me that
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brza serija fotografija iza mene koje
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show you the reality of robots used in war
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pokazuje stvarnost upotrebe robota u ratu
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right now or already at the prototype stage.
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upravo sada ili već u fazi prototipa.
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It's just to give you a taste.
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To je samo da vam da uvid.
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Another way of putting it is you're not
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Drugi način kako to prikazati je kako ovdje nećete
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going to see anything that's powered
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vidjeti ništa što je pogonjeno
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by Vulcan technology, or teenage
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Vulkanskom tehnologijom, ili tinejdžerskim
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wizard hormones or anything like that.
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čarobnjačkim hormonima ili već čim tome nalik.
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This is all real. So why don't we
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Ovo je sve stvarno. Pa zašto ne bismo
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go ahead and start those pictures.
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nastavili i počeli sa tim slikama.
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Something big is going on in war today,
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Nešto se veliko događa s ratom danas,
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and maybe even the history of humanity
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a možda čak i sa samom poviješću čovječanstva.
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itself. The U.S. military went into Iraq with
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Vojska Sjedinjenih država je otišla u Irak sa
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a handful of drones in the air.
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šačicom bespilotnih letjelica.
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We now have 5,300.
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Danas ih imamo 5.300.
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We went in with zero unmanned ground
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Otišli smo sa nula kopnenih sustava
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systems. We now have 12,000.
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bez posade. Sad ih imamo 12.000.
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And the tech term "killer application"
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A tehnološki termin "ubojita aplikacija"
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takes on new meaning in this space.
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dobija novo značenje u ovom prostoru.
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And we need to remember that we're
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A moramo upamtiti kako
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talking about the Model T Fords,
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pričamo o Fordovim T modelima,
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the Wright Flyers, compared
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Wrightovim letjelicama, u usporedbi
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to what's coming soon.
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s onim što uskoro dolazi.
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That's where we're at right now.
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Ovo je gdje se nalazimo upravo sada.
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One of the people that I recently met with
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Jedan od ljudi s kojima sam se nedavno sreo
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was an Air Force three-star general, and he
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je bio general-pukovnik zračnih snaga, i
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said basically, where we're headed very
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rekao je u osnovi, kamo idemo vrlo
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soon is tens of thousands of robots
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uskoro su deseci tisuća robota
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operating in our conflicts, and these
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koji djeluju u našim sukobima, a ti
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numbers matter, because we're not just
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brojevi znače, jer ne pričamo samo
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talking about tens of thousands of today's
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o desecima tisuća današnjih
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robots, but tens of thousands of these
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robota, već desecima tisuća tih
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prototypes and tomorrow's robots, because
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prototipova i sutrašnjih robota, jer
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of course, one of the things that's operating
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naravno, jedna od stvari koje djeluju
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in technology is Moore's Law,
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u tehnologiji je Mooreov zakon,
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that you can pack in more and more
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kako možete utrpati više i više
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computing power into those robots, and so
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računalne moći u te robote, i tako
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flash forward around 25 years,
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premotajmo unaprijed 25 godina,
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if Moore's Law holds true,
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ako se Mooreov zakon održi,
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those robots will be close to a billion times
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ti će roboti biti gotovo milijardu puta
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more powerful in their computing than today.
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moćniji u svojem računanju nego danas.
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And so what that means is the kind of
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A što to znači je kako vrste
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things that we used to only talk about at
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stvari o kojima smo navikli pričati samo na
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science fiction conventions like Comic-Con
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znanstveno fantastičnim konvencijama poput Comic-Cona
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have to be talked about in the halls
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moraju biti raspravljene i u dvoranama moći
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of power and places like the Pentagon.
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i mjestima poput Pentagona.
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A robots revolution is upon us.
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Robotska je revolucija ovdje.
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Now, I need to be clear here.
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Sad, trebam ovdje biti jasan.
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I'm not talking about a revolution where you
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Ne govorim o revoluciji gdje se
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have to worry about the Governor of
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morate brinuti o guverneru
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California showing up at your door,
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Kalifornije kako vam se pojavljuje pred vratima,
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a la the Terminator. (Laughter)
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a la Terminator. (Smijeh)
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When historians look at this period, they're
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Kad će povjesničari gledati ovo razdoblje,
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going to conclude that we're in a different
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zaključit će kako smo u drugačijem
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type of revolution: a revolution in war,
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tipu revolucije: u obratu rata,
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like the invention of the atomic bomb.
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poput izuma atomske bombe.
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But it may be even bigger than that,
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Ali može biti čak i veća od toga,
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because our unmanned systems don't just
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stoga što sustavi bez posade ne utječu samo
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affect the "how" of war-fighting,
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na to "kako" se vodi rat,
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they affect the "who" of fighting
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već utječu na "tko" se bori
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at its most fundamental level.
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na najtemeljnijoj razini.
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That is, every previous revolution in war, be
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To jest, svaki prethodni obrat ratovanja,
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it the machine gun, be it the atomic bomb,
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bila to strojnica, bila to atomska bomba,
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was about a system that either shot faster,
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je bio o sustavu koji ili puca brže,
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went further, had a bigger boom.
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ide dalje, ima veći bum.
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That's certainly the case with robotics, but
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To je sigurno slučaj i sa robotikom, ali
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they also change the experience of the warrior
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također mijenja iskustvo ratnika
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and even the very identity of the warrior.
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i čak i sam identitet ratnika.
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Another way of putting this is that
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Drugi način da to kažemo
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mankind's 5,000-year-old monopoly
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je kako se 5.000 godina star monopol čovječanstva
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on the fighting of war is breaking down
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na vođenje rata raspada
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in our very lifetime. I've spent
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unutar našeg životnog vijeka. Potrošio sam
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the last several years going around
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zadnjih nekoliko godina obilazeći uokolo
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meeting with all the players in this field,
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susrećući se sa svim igračima u ovom polju,
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from the robot scientists to the science
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od znanstvenika oko robota do
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fiction authors who inspired them to the
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autora znanstvene fantastike koji su ih nadahnuli do
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19-year-old drone pilots who are fighting
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19-godišnjih pilota dronova koji se bore
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from Nevada, to the four-star generals
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iz Nevade, do generala zbora
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who command them, to even the Iraqi
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koji im zapovijedaju, čak do
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insurgents who they are targeting and what
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iračkih pobunjenika koje oni ciljaju
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they think about our systems, and
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i što oni misle o našim sustavima, a
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what I found interesting is not just
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što sam našao zanimljivim nisu samo
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their stories, but how their experiences
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njihove priče, nego kako njihova iskustva
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point to these ripple effects that are going
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ukazuju na učinke tog talasanja koji prelaze u
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outwards in our society, in our law
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naše društvo, u naše zakone,
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and our ethics, etc. And so what I'd like
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u našu etiku itd. A što bih volio učiniti
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to do with my remaining time is basically
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sa svojim preostalim vremenom je u biti
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flesh out a couple of these.
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ukazati na neki broj tih učinaka.
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So the first is that the future of war,
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prvi je kako budućnost rata,
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even a robotics one, is not going to be
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pa čak i robotskog, neće biti
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purely an American one.
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čisto američka.
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The U.S. is currently ahead in military
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Sjedinjene države trenutno predvode u vojnoj
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robotics right now, but we know that in
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robotici, ali znamo kako u
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technology there's no such thing as
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tehnologiji nema takve stvari kao
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a permanent first move or advantage.
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stalna prednost prvog poteza.
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In a quick show of hands, how many
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Kratkim dizanjem ruku, koliko
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people in this room still use
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ljudi u ovoj prostoriji i dalje koriste
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Wang Computers? (Laughter)
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Wang računala? (Smijeh)
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It's the same thing in war. The British and
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Ista je stvar u ratu. Britanci i
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the French invented the tank.
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Francuzi su izmislili tenk.
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The Germans figured out how
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Njemci su shvatili kako ga
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to use it right, and so what we have to
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pravilno koristiti, a ono o čemu moramo
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think about for the U.S. is that we are
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razmisliti za Sjedinjene države je kako
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ahead right now, but you have
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predvodimo upravo sada, ali imate
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43 other countries out there
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43 druge zemlje
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working on military robotics, and they
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koje rade na vojnoj robotici, a to
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include all the interesting countries like
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uključuje sve zanimljive zemlje poput
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Russia, China, Pakistan, Iran.
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Rusije, Kine, Pakistana, Irana.
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And this raises a bigger worry for me.
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A to stvara veću brigu za mene.
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How do we move forward in this revolution
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Kako da se krećemo naprijed u ovoj revoluciji
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given the state of our manufacturing
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uzevši u obzir stanje naše proizvodnje
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and the state of our science and
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i stanje našeg znanstvenog i
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mathematics training in our schools?
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matematičkog obrazovanja u našim školama.
06:51
Or another way of thinking about this is,
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Ili drugačiji način razmišljanja o ovome je,
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what does it mean to go to war increasingly
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što to znači ići u rat sve više
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with soldiers whose hardware is made
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sa vojnicima čiji je hardver napravljen
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in China and software is written in India?
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u Kini a softver napisan u Indiji?
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But just as software has gone open-source,
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Ali jednako kako je softver prešao u otvoreni kod,
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so has warfare.
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tako je i ratovanje.
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Unlike an aircraft carrier or an atomic bomb,
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Za razliku od nosača aviona ili atomske bombe,
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you don't need a massive manufacturing
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ne trebate krupni proizvodni
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system to build robotics. A lot of it is
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sustav da gradite robotiku. Velik je dio nje
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off the shelf. A lot of it's even do-it-yourself.
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sa polica. Velik je dio nje čak uradi-sam.
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One of those things you just saw flashed
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Jedna od ovih stvari koje ste upravo vidjeli kako vam je proletjela
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before you was a raven drone, the handheld
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ispred vas je bila bespilotna letjelica Gavran, na
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tossed one. For about a thousand dollars,
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ručni izbačaj. Za oko tisuću dolara,
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you can build one yourself, equivalent to
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možete si sagraditi jednu, ekvivalentnu onoj
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what the soldiers use in Iraq.
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koju vojnici koriste u Iraku.
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That raises another wrinkle when it comes
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To stvara novu brigu kad dolazi
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to war and conflict. Good guys might play
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do rata i konflikta. Dobri momci se mogu igrati
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around and work on these as hobby kits,
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uokolo i raditi na ovima iz hobija,
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but so might bad guys.
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ali isto tako to mogu i loši momci.
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This cross between robotics and things like
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Ovo križanje između robotike i stvari poput
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terrorism is going to be fascinating
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terorizma će biti očaravajuće
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and even disturbing,
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i čak uznemirujuće
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and we've already seen it start.
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i već smo ga vidjeli kako počinje.
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During the war between Israel, a state,
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Tijekom rata između Izraela, države,
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and Hezbollah, a non-state actor,
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i Hezbolaha, nedržavnog sudionika,
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the non-state actor flew
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nedržavni sudionik je koristio
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four different drones against Israel.
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četiri različite bespilotne letjelice protiv Izraela.
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There's already a jihadi website
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Već postoji džihadistička web stranica
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that you can go on and remotely
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gdje možete otići i daljinski
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detonate an IED in Iraq while sitting
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detonirati IED u Iraku dok sjedite
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at your home computer.
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za svojim kućnim računalom.
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And so I think what we're going to see is
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Tako da mislim što ćemo vidjeti su
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two trends take place with this.
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dva trenda unutar ovoga.
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First is, you're going to reinforce the power
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Prvi je, osnažiti ćete
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of individuals against governments,
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pojedince protiv vlada,
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but then the second is that
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ali drugi je kako
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we are going to see an expansion
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ćemo vidjeti širenje
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in the realm of terrorism.
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u carstvu terorizma.
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The future of it may be a cross between
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Njegova budućnost može biti križanac između
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al Qaeda 2.0 and the
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al Qaede 2.0 i
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next generation of the Unabomber.
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slijedeće generacije Unabombera.
08:22
And another way of thinking about this
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A drugi je način razmišljanja o ovome
08:24
is the fact that, remember, you don't have
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činjenica kako, zapamtite, ne morate
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to convince a robot that they're gonna
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uvjeriti robota kako će
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receive 72 virgins after they die
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dobiti 72 djevice nakon što umre
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to convince them to blow themselves up.
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a da bi ga uvjerili da se raznese.
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But the ripple effects of this are going to go
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Ali učinci talasanja ovoga će izaći
08:36
out into our politics. One of the people that
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i u našu politiku. Jedan od ljudi koje
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I met with was a former Assistant Secretary of
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sam sreo je bio pomoćnik ministra
08:40
Defense for Ronald Reagan, and he put it
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obrane za Ronalda Reagana, i on je stvari
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this way: "I like these systems because
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postavio ovako: "Sviđaju mi se ovi sustavi jer
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they save American lives, but I worry about
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spašavaju američke živote, ali brinem se radi
08:46
more marketization of wars,
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veće tržišnosti ratova,
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more shock-and-awe talk,
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uzdizanja šoka i strahopoštovanja u javnom govoru,
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to defray discussion of the costs.
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da se rasprava udalji od troškova.
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People are more likely to support the use
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Vjerojatnije je kako će ljudi podržati upotrebu
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of force if they view it as costless."
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sile ako je vide kao besplatnu."
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Robots for me take certain trends
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Roboti se po meni uklapaju u određene trendove
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that are already in play in our body politic,
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koji se već odigravaju u našoj politici,
09:03
and maybe take them to
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i možda ih dovode do
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their logical ending point.
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njihove logične krajnje točke.
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We don't have a draft. We don't
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Nemamo novačenje. Nemamo više
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have declarations of war anymore.
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niti objave rata.
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We don't buy war bonds anymore.
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Više ne kupujemo ratne obveznice.
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And now we have the fact that we're
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A sad imamo činjenicu kako
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converting more and more of our American
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preokrećemo sve više naših Američkih
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soldiers that we would send into harm's
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vojnika koje bismo poslali u opasnost
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way into machines, and so we may take
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u strojeve, i možemo uzeti
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those already lowering bars to war
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već snižene ljestvice do rata
09:26
and drop them to the ground.
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i baciti ih na zemlju.
09:29
But the future of war is also going to be
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Ali budućnost rata će također biti
09:31
a YouTube war.
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i YouTube rat.
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That is, our new technologies don't merely
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To jest, naše nove tehnologije ne da tek
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remove humans from risk.
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miču ljude od rizika.
09:37
They also record everything that they see.
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One također i snimaju sve što vide.
09:40
So they don't just delink the public:
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Tako da nije da samo odspajaju javnost:
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they reshape its relationship with war.
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oni mijenjaju njen odnos s ratom.
09:46
There's already several thousand
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Već ima više tisuća
09:48
video clips of combat footage from Iraq
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videoisječaka snimki bitaka iz Iraka
09:50
on YouTube right now,
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na YouTube-u u ovom trenu,
09:52
most of it gathered by drones.
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većinom skupljenih bespilotnim letjelicama.
09:54
Now, this could be a good thing.
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Sad, ovo bi mogla biti dobra stvar.
09:56
It could be building connections between
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Mogla bi stvoriti vezu između
09:58
the home front and the war front
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doma i bojišta
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as never before.
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kao nikad ranije.
10:02
But remember, this is taking place
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Ali zapamtite, ovo se odvija
10:04
in our strange, weird world, and so
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u našem čudnom, neobičnom svijetu, pa tako
10:07
inevitably the ability to download these
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neizbježno mogućnost skidanja tih
10:09
video clips to, you know, your iPod
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videoklipova na, znate, vaš iPod
10:11
or your Zune gives you
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ili vaš Zune daje vam
10:14
the ability to turn it into entertainment.
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mogućnost da to pretvorite u zabavu.
10:18
Soldiers have a name for these clips.
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Vojnici imaju ime za te klipove.
10:20
They call it war porn.
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Zovu ih ratni porn.
10:22
The typical one that I was sent was
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Jedan tipičan koji mi je poslan je bio
10:24
an email that had an attachment of
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email sa privitkom
10:26
video of a Predator strike taking out
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snimke napada Predatora koji je uništio
10:28
an enemy site. Missile hits,
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neprijateljski položaj. Projektil pogađa,
10:30
bodies burst into the air with the explosion.
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tijela pršte u zrak sa eksplozijom.
10:33
It was set to music.
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Stavljena je glazba.
10:35
It was set to the pop song
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Stavljena je pop stvar
10:37
"I Just Want To Fly" by Sugar Ray.
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"I just Want to Fly" od Sugar Raya.
10:40
This ability to watch more
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Ova mogućnost da se gleda više
10:43
but experience less creates a wrinkle
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ali iskusi manje stvara brigu
10:46
in the public's relationship with war.
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glede odnosa javnosti spram rata.
10:48
I think about this with a sports parallel.
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Razmišljam o tome u paraleli sa sportom.
10:50
It's like the difference between
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To je kao razlika između
10:53
watching an NBA game, a professional
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gledanja NBA utakmice, profesionalne
10:56
basketball game on TV, where the athletes
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košarkaške utakmice na TV, gdje su sportaši
10:59
are tiny figures on the screen, and
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mali likovi na ekranu, i
11:01
being at that basketball game in person
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osobnog bivanja na košarkaškoj utakmici
11:04
and realizing what someone seven feet
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i shvatiti kako netko od 2,15 m
11:06
really does look like.
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zbilja izgleda.
11:08
But we have to remember,
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Ali moramo zapamtiti,
11:10
these are just the clips.
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ovo su samo snimke.
11:12
These are just the ESPN SportsCenter
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Ovo je samo ESPN SportsCenterova
11:14
version of the game. They lose the context.
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verzija utakmice. Gube kontekst.
11:16
They lose the strategy.
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Gube strategiju.
11:18
They lose the humanity. War just
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Gube čovječnost. Rat samo
11:20
becomes slam dunks and smart bombs.
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postaje zakucavanja i pametne bombe.
11:23
Now the irony of all this is that
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Sad, ironija je u svemu tome
11:26
while the future of war may involve
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dok budućnost rata može uključiti
11:28
more and more machines,
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sve više strojeva,
11:30
it's our human psychology that's driving
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naša je ljudska psihologija koja pokreće
11:32
all of this, it's our human failings
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sve to, naši ljudski nedostatci
11:34
that are leading to these wars.
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koji dovode do tih ratova.
11:36
So one example of this that has
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Tako je jedan primjer toga koji ima
11:38
big resonance in the policy realm is
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velik odjek u stvarnosti politike je
11:40
how this plays out on our very real
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kakvu to ulogu igra u našem vrlo stvarnom
11:42
war of ideas that we're fighting
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ratu ideja koji vodimo
11:44
against radical groups.
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protiv radikalnih grupa.
11:46
What is the message that we think we are
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Koja je poruka koju mislimo da
11:48
sending with these machines versus what
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šaljemo s tim strojevima protiv onog što
11:50
is being received in terms of the message.
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biva primljeno u pogledu poruke.
11:53
So one of the people that I met was
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Tako je jedan od ljudi koje sam sreo bio
11:55
a senior Bush Administration official,
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stariji dužnosnik iz Bushove administracije,
11:57
who had this to say about
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koji je imao ovo za reći o
11:59
our unmanning of war:
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našem micanju ljudi iz rata:
12:01
"It plays to our strength. The thing that
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"To je naš adut. Stvar koja
12:03
scares people is our technology."
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plaši ljude naša je tehnologija."
12:05
But when you go out and meet with people,
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Ali kad izađete među ljude,
12:07
for example in Lebanon, it's a very
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na primjer u Libanonu, vrlo je
12:09
different story. One of the people
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različita priča. Jedan od ljudi
12:11
I met with there was a news editor, and
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koje sam sreo je bio taj urednik vijesti, i
12:13
we're talking as a drone is flying above him,
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bili smo pričali dok je bespilotna letjelica letjela nad njim,
12:15
and this is what he had to say.
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i ovo je što je imao za reći:
12:17
"This is just another sign of the coldhearted
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"Ovo je samo još jedan znak bezdušnih
12:19
cruel Israelis and Americans,
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okrutnih Izraelaca i Amerikanaca,
12:22
who are cowards because
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koji su kukavice jer
12:24
they send out machines to fight us.
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šalju strojeve da se bore s nama.
12:26
They don't want to fight us like real men,
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Ne žele se boriti s nama poput pravih ljudi,
12:28
but they're afraid to fight,
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već ih je strah boriti se,
12:30
so we just have to kill a few of their soldiers
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tako da samo trebamo pobiti nekoliko njihovih vojnika
12:32
to defeat them."
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kako bismo ih pobijedili."
12:35
The future of war also is featuring
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Budućnost rata također sadrži
12:37
a new type of warrior,
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novu vrstu ratnika,
12:39
and it's actually redefining the experience
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i zapravo redefinira iskustvo
12:42
of going to war.
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odlaska u rat.
12:44
You can call this a cubicle warrior.
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Možete to nazvati uredski ratnik.
12:46
This is what one Predator drone pilot
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Ovo je kako je pilot drona Predatora
12:48
described of his experience fighting
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opisao svoje iskustvo borbe
12:50
in the Iraq War while never leaving Nevada.
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u Iračkom ratu dok uopće nije napustio Nevadu:
12:53
"You're going to war for 12 hours,
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"Odlazite u rat na 12 sati,
12:55
shooting weapons at targets,
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pucate iz oružja po metama,
12:57
directing kills on enemy combatants,
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usmrćujete neprijateljske borce,
13:00
and then you get in the car
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a onda sjednete u auto
13:02
and you drive home and within 20 minutes,
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i odvezete se doma i unutar 20 minuta,
13:04
you're sitting at the dinner table
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sjedite za stolom za večerom
13:06
talking to your kids about their homework."
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i pričate sa svojim klincima o njihovoj domaćoj zadaći."
13:08
Now, the psychological balancing
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Sad, psihološko balansiranje
13:10
of those experiences is incredibly tough,
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tih iskustava je nevjerojatno teško,
13:12
and in fact those drone pilots have
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i zapravo ti piloti dronova imaju
13:15
higher rates of PTSD than many
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višu stopu PTSP-a od brojnih
13:17
of the units physically in Iraq.
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jedinica fizički u Iraku.
13:20
But some have worries that this
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Ali neki brinu kako će ta
13:22
disconnection will lead to something else,
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razvezanost dovesti do nečeg drugog,
13:24
that it might make the contemplation of war
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kako može učiniti razmišljanje o ratnim
13:26
crimes a lot easier when you have
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zločinima puno lakšim kad imate
13:28
this distance. "It's like a video game,"
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to odstojanje."Poput video igre je,"
13:30
is what one young pilot described to me
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je kako mi je jedan mladi pilot opisao
13:32
of taking out enemy troops from afar.
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uništavanje neprijateljskih postrojbi iz daljine.
13:34
As anyone who's played Grand Theft Auto
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Kako svatko tko je igrao Grand Theft Auto
13:37
knows, we do things in the video world
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zna, činimo stvari u video svijetu
13:40
that we wouldn't do face to face.
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koje ne bismo činili uživo.
13:43
So much of what you're hearing from me
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Toliko toga što čujete od mene
13:45
is that there's another side
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je kako postoji druga strana
13:47
to technologic revolutions,
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tehnoloških revolucija,
13:49
and that it's shaping our present
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i kako nam oblikuje sadašnjost
13:51
and maybe will shape our future of war.
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a možda će oblikovati i našu budućnost rata.
13:54
Moore's Law is operative,
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Mooreov zakon djeluje,
13:56
but so's Murphy's Law.
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ali djeluje i Murphyjev.
13:58
The fog of war isn't being lifted.
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Ratna magla se nije maknula.
14:00
The enemy has a vote.
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Neprijatelj ima glas.
14:02
We're gaining incredible new capabilities,
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Stječemo nevjerojatne nove sposobnosti,
14:04
but we're also seeing and experiencing
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ali također vidimo i proživljavamo
14:06
new human dilemmas. Now,
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nove ljudske dileme. Sad,
14:08
sometimes these are just "oops" moments,
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nekad su to samo "ups!" trenuci,
14:10
which is what the head of a robotics
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što je kako je to šef robotičke
14:12
company described it, you just have
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kompanije opisao, samo imate
14:14
"oops" moments. Well, what are
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"ups!" trenutke. Dobro, što su
14:16
"oops" moments with robots in war?
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"ups!" trenuci s robotima u ratu?
14:18
Well, sometimes they're funny. Sometimes,
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Pa, ponekad su fora. Ponekad,
14:20
they're like that scene from the
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nalik su sceni iz
14:22
Eddie Murphy movie "Best Defense,"
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Eddie Murphyjevog filma "Najbolja obrana",
14:24
playing out in reality, where they tested out
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koja se odigrava u stvarnosti, gdje su isprobali
14:26
a machine gun-armed robot, and during
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strojnicom naoružanog robota, i tijekom
14:28
the demonstration it started spinning
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javnog prikazivanja se počeo vrtjeti
14:30
in a circle and pointed its machine gun
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u krug i usmjerio svoju strojnicu
14:33
at the reviewing stand of VIPs.
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u tribinu punu VIP-ovaca.
14:36
Fortunately the weapon wasn't loaded
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Srećom oružje nije bilo napunjeno
14:38
and no one was hurt, but other times
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i nitko nije ozlijeđen, ali u drugim prilikama
14:40
"oops" moments are tragic,
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"ups!" momenti su tragični,
14:42
such as last year in South Africa, where
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kao prošle godine u Južnoj Africi, gdje
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an anti-aircraft cannon had a
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je protuzračni top imao
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"software glitch," and actually did turn on
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"softverski kvar", i zapravo se upalio
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and fired, and nine soldiers were killed.
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i zapucao i ubio devet vojnika.
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We have new wrinkles in the laws of war
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Imamo nove brige u ratnim pravilima
14:56
and accountability. What do we do
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i uračunljivosti. Što činimo
14:58
with things like unmanned slaughter?
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sa stvarima poput bespilotnog pokolja?
15:00
What is unmanned slaughter?
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Što je bespilotni pokolj?
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We've already had three instances of
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Već smo imali tri slučaja
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Predator drone strikes where we thought
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napada Predatorom gdje smo mislili
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we got bin Laden, and it turned out
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kako imamo Bin Ladena, a da je ispalo
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not to be the case.
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kako to nije slučaj.
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And this is where we're at right now.
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I to je gdje smo upravo sada.
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This is not even talking about armed,
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Ovo čak i nije razgovor o naoružanim
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autonomous systems
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autonomnim sustavima
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with full authority to use force.
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sa punim ovlastima upotrebe sile.
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And do not believe that that isn't coming.
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A ne vjerujte da to ne dolazi.
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During my research I came across
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Tijekom mog istraživanja naišao sam na
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four different Pentagon projects
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četiri različita projekta iz Pentagona
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on different aspects of that.
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o različitim vidovima toga.
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And so you have this question:
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I onda imate ovo pitanje:
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what does this lead to issues like
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čemu to vodi u pitanjima poput
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war crimes? Robots are emotionless, so
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ratnih zločina? Roboti su bez emocija, pa
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they don't get upset if their buddy is killed.
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se ne uzrujavaju ako su im drugovi ubijeni.
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They don't commit crimes of rage
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Ne čine zločine iz bijesa
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and revenge.
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ili osvete.
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But robots are emotionless.
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Ali roboti su bez emocija.
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They see an 80-year-old grandmother
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Vide 80-godišnju baku
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in a wheelchair the same way they see
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u kolicima na isti način kako vide
15:46
a T-80 tank: they're both
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i tenk T-80: oboje su
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just a series of zeroes and ones.
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tek nizovi nula i jedinica.
15:52
And so we have this question to figure out:
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Pa imamo ovo pitanje za shvatiti:
15:55
How do we catch up our 20th century
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Kako ćemo sustići naša ratna pravila
15:57
laws of war, that are so old right now
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20. stoljeća, koja su sada već toliko stara
15:59
that they could qualify for Medicare,
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da bi se mogla prijaviti za zdravstvenu skrb,
16:02
to these 21st century technologies?
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sa ovim tehnologijama 21. stoljeća?
16:05
And so, in conclusion, I've talked about
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I tako, u zaključku, pričao sam o
16:08
what seems the future of war,
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što se čini budućnošću rata,
16:11
but notice that I've only used
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ali primijetite da sam samo koristio
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real world examples and you've only seen
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primjere iz stvarnog svijeta a vi ste vidjeli samo
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real world pictures and videos.
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slike i filmove iz stvarnog svijeta.
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And so this sets a great challenge for
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A to tako postavlja veliki izazov
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all of us that we have to worry about well
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za sve nas o kojem se moramo brinuti
16:21
before you have to worry about your
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poprilično prije nego brinuti o vašoj
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Roomba sucking the life away from you.
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Roombi kako siše život iz vas.
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Are we going to let the fact that what's
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Hoćemo li pustiti činjenicu koja se
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unveiling itself right now in war
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razotkriva upravo sada u ratu
16:30
sounds like science fiction and therefore
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da zvuči kao znanstvena fantastika i prema tome
16:33
keeps us in denial?
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ostati u poricanju?
16:35
Are we going to face the reality
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Hoćemo li se suočiti sa stvarnošću
16:37
of 21st century war?
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rata u 21. stoljeću?
16:39
Is our generation going to make the same
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Hoće li naša generacija napraviti istu
16:41
mistake that a past generation did
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grešku koju je napravila i prethodna
16:43
with atomic weaponry, and not deal with
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s atomskim oružjem, i ne pozabaviti se
16:45
the issues that surround it until
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problemima koji ju okružuju sve dok
16:47
Pandora's box is already opened up?
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Pandorina kutija ne bude već otvorena?
16:49
Now, I could be wrong on this, and
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Sad, mogu o ovome biti u krivu, a
16:51
one Pentagon robot scientist told me
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jedan pentagonski znanstvenik robotičar mi je rekao
16:53
that I was. He said, "There's no real
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da i jesam. Rekao je: "Nema stvarnih
16:55
social, ethical, moral issues when it comes
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društvenih, etičkih, moralnih pitanja kad dođe
16:57
to robots.
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do robota.
16:59
That is," he added, "unless the machine
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To jest, "dodaje, "osim ako stroj
17:01
kills the wrong people repeatedly.
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opetovano ne ubija krive ljude.
17:04
Then it's just a product recall issue."
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Onda je to samo pitanje povlačenja proizvoda."
17:07
And so the ending point for this is
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Zadnja je točka ovoga
17:10
that actually, we can turn to Hollywood.
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kako zapravo, možemo se okrenuti Hollywoodu.
17:15
A few years ago, Hollywood gathered
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Prije nekoliko godina, Hollywood je skupio
17:17
all the top characters and created
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sve glavne likove i stvorio
17:20
a list of the top 100 heroes and
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listu glavnih 100 heroja te
17:22
top 100 villains of all of Hollywood history,
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glavnih 100 zlikovaca holivudske povijesti,
17:25
the characters that represented the best
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likove koji predstavljaju sve najbolje
17:27
and worst of humanity.
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i sve najbolje od čovječanstva.
17:29
Only one character made it onto both lists:
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Samo se jedan lik našao na obje liste:
17:33
The Terminator, a robot killing machine.
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Terminator, ubojit robotski stroj.
17:36
And so that points to the fact that
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A to ukazuje na činjenicu kako
17:38
our machines can be used
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naši strojevi mogu biti korišteni
17:40
for both good and evil, but for me
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jednako za dobro i za zlo, ali za mene
17:42
it points to the fact that there's a duality
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to ukazuje na činjenicu kako postoji takva dvojnost
17:44
of humans as well.
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i ljudi.
17:47
This week is a celebration
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Ova je tjedan proslava
17:49
of our creativity. Our creativity
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našeg stvaralaštva. Naše je stvaralaštvo
17:51
has taken our species to the stars.
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povelo našu vrstu do zvijezda.
17:53
Our creativity has created works of arts
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Naše je stvaralaštvo stvorilo umjetnička djela
17:55
and literature to express our love.
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i književnost da nam izrazi ljubav.
17:58
And now, we're using our creativity
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A sada, koristimo naše stvaralaštvo
18:00
in a certain direction, to build fantastic
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u određenom smjeru, da napravimo fantastične
18:02
machines with incredible capabilities,
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strojeve s nevjerojatnim sposobnostima,
18:05
maybe even one day
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možda čak jednog dana
18:07
an entirely new species.
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jednu posve novu vrstu.
18:10
But one of the main reasons that we're
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Ali jedan je od glavnih razloga što
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doing that is because of our drive
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to činimo naš nagon
18:14
to destroy each other, and so the question
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da uništimo jedni druge, tako da je pitanje
18:17
we all should ask:
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koje bismo se svi trebali zapitati:
18:19
is it our machines, or is it us
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Jesu li naši strojevi, ili smo mi
18:21
that's wired for war?
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oni koji su predodređeni za rat?
18:23
Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala vam. (Pljesak)
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