Charmian Gooch: My wish: To launch a new era of openness in business

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I've come here today
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to talk to you about a problem.
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It's a very simple yet devastating problem,
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one that spans the globe
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and is affecting all of us.
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The problem is
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anonymous companies.
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It sounds like a really dry and technical thing,
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doesn't it?
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But anonymous companies are making it difficult
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and sometimes impossible
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to find out
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the actual human beings responsible
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sometimes for really terrible crimes.
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So, why am I here talking to all of you?
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Well, I guess I am a lifelong troublemaker
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and when my parents taught my twin brother and I
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to question authority,
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I don't think they knew where it might lead.
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(Laughter)
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And, they probably really regretted it
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during my stroppy teenage years when, predictably,
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I questioned their authority a lot.
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And a lot of my school teachers
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didn't appreciate it much either.
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You see, since the age of about five
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I've always asked the question, but why?
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But why does the Earth go around the sun?
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But why is blood red?
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But why do I have to go to school?
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But why do I have to respect the teachers
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and authority?
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And little did I realize
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that this question would become the basis
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of everything I would do.
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And so it was
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in my twenties, a long time ago,
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that one rainy Sunday afternoon in North London
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I was sitting with Simon Taylor
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and Patrick Alley
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and we were busy stuffing envelopes
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for a mail out in the office of the campaign group
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where we worked at the time.
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And as usual, we were talking about the world's problems.
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And in particular, we were talking about
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the civil war in Cambodia.
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And we had talked about that many, many times before.
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But then suddenly we stopped
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and looked at each other
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and said, but why don't we try and change this?
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And from that slightly crazy question,
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over two decades
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and many campaigns later,
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including alerting the world
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to the problem of blood diamonds funding war,
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from that crazy question,
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Global Witness is now an 80-strong team
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of campaigners, investigators, journalists and lawyers.
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And we're all driven by the same belief,
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that change really is possible.
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So, what exactly does Global Witness do?
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We investigate, we report,
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to uncover the people really responsible
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for funding conflict --
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for stealing millions from citizens around the world,
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also known as state looting,
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and for destroying the environment.
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And then we campaign hard to change the system itself.
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And we're doing this because so many of the countries
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rich in natural resources
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like oil or diamonds or timber
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are home to some of the poorest
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and most dispossessed people on the planet.
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And much of this injustice
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is made possible
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by currently accepted business practices.
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And one of these is anonymous companies.
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Now we've come up against anonymous companies
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in lots of our investigations,
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like in the Democratic Republic of Congo,
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where we exposed how secretive deals
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involving anonymous companies
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had deprived the citizens
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of one of the poorest countries on the planet
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of well over a billion dollars.
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That's twice the country's health and education budget combined.
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Or in Liberia,
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where an international predatory logging company
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used front companies as it attempted to grab
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a really huge chunk of Liberia's unique forests.
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Or political corruption in Sarawak, Malaysia,
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which has led to the destruction of much of its forests.
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Well, that uses anonymous companies too.
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We secretly filmed some of the family
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of the former chief minister and a lawyer
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as they told our undercover investigator
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exactly how these dubious deals are done
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using such companies.
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And the awful thing is,
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there are so many other examples out there
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from all walks of life.
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This truly is a scandal of epic proportions
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hidden in plain sight.
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Whether it's the ruthless Mexican drugs cartel,
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the Zetas,
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who use anonymous companies to launder profits
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while their drugs-related violence
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is tearing communities apart across the Americas.
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Or the anonymous company,
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which bought up Americans' tax debts,
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piled on the legal fees
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and then gave homeowners a choice:
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Pay up or lose your home.
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Imagine being threatened with losing your home
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sometimes over a debt of just a few hundred dollars,
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and not being able to find out
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who you were really up against.
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Now anonymous companies
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are great for sanctions busting too.
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As the Iranian government found out
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when, through a series of front companies,
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it owned a building in the very heart of Manhattan,
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on Fifth Avenue,
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despite American sanctions.
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And Juicy Couture, home of of the velvet track suit,
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and other companies were the unwitting,
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unknowing tenants there.
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There are just so many examples,
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the horesemeat scandal in Europe,
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the Italian mafia, they've used these companies
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for decades.
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The $100 million American Medicare fraud,
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the supply of weapons to wars around the world
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including those
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in Eastern Europe in the early '90s.
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Anonymous companies
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have even come to light
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in the recent revolution in the Ukraine.
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But, for every case that we and others expose
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there are so many more that will remain hidden away
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because of the current system.
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And it's just a simple truth
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that some of the people responsible for outrageous crimes,
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for stealing from you and me
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and millions of others,
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they are remaining faceless
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and they are escaping accountability
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and they're doing this with ease,
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and they're doing it using legal structures.
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And really, that is unfair.
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Well, you might well ask,
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what exactly is an anonymous company,
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and can I really set one up, and use it,
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without anyone knowing who I am?
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Well, the answer is, yes you can.
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But if you're anything like me,
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you'll want to see some of that for yourself,
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so let me show you.
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Well first you need to work out
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where you want to set it up.
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Now, at this point you might be imagining
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one of those lovely tropical island tax havens
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but here's the thing,
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shockingly,
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my own hometown, London,
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and indeed the U.K.,
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is one of the best places in the world
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to set up an anonymous company.
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And the other, even better,
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I'm afraid that's America.
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Do you know, in some states across America
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you need less identification
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to open up a company
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than you do to get a library card,
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like Delaware,
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which is one of the easiest places
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in the world to set up an anonymous company.
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Okay, so let's say it's America,
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and let's say it's Delaware,
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and now you can simply go online
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and find yourself a company service provider.
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These are the companies that can set your one up for you,
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and remember, it's all legal, routine business practice.
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So, here's one,
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but there are plenty of others to choose from.
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And having made your choice,
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you then pick what type of company you want
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and then fill in a contact, name and address.
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But don't worry,
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it doesn't have to be your name.
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It can be your lawyer's
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or your service provider's,
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and it's not for the public record anyway.
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And then you add the owner of the company.
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Now this is the key part,
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and again it doesn't have to be you,
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because you can get creative,
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because there is a whole universe out there of nominees
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to choose from.
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And nominees are the people that you
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can legally pay to be your company's owner.
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And if you don't want to involve anyone else,
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it doesn't even have to be an actual human being.
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It could be another company.
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And then finally,
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give your company a name
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add a few more details and make your payment.
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And then the service provider
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will take a few hours or more to process it.
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But there you are,
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in 10 minutes of online shopping
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you can create yourself an anonymous company.
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And not only is it easy,
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really, really easy and cheap,
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it's totally legal too.
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But the fun doesn't have to end there,
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maybe you want to be even more anonymous.
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Well, that's no problem either.
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You can simply keep adding layers,
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companies owned by companies.
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You can have hundreds of layers
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with hundreds of companies spread across
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lots of different countries,
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like a giant web,
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each layer adds anonymity.
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Each layer makes it more difficult
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for law enforcement and others
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to find out who the real owner is.
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But whose interests is this all serving?
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It might be in the interests of the company
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or a particular individual,
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but what about all of us, the public?
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There hasn't even been a global conversation yet
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about whether it's okay
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to misuse companies in this way.
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And what does it all mean for us?
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Well, an example that really haunts me
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is one I came across recently.
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And it's that of a horrific fire
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in a nightclub in Buenos Aires
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about a decade ago.
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It was the night before New Year's Eve.
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Three thousand very happy revelers,
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many of them teenagers,
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were crammed into a space meant for 1,000.
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And then tragedy struck,
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a fire broke out
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plastic decorations were melting from the ceiling
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and toxic smoke filled the club.
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So people tried to escape
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only to find that some of the fire doors
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had been chained shut.
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Over 200 people died.
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Seven hundred were injured trying to get out.
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And as the victims' families and the city and the country
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reeled in shock,
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investigators tried to find out who was responsible.
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And as they looked for the owners of the club,
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they found instead anonymous companies,
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and confusion surrounded the identities of those
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involved with the companies.
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Now ultimately, a range of people were charged
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and some went to jail.
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But this was an awful tragedy,
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and it shouldn't have been so difficult
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just to try and find out who was responsible
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for those deaths.
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Because in an age
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when there is so much information
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out there in the open,
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why should this crucial information
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about company ownership
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stay hidden away?
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Why should tax evaders, corrupt government officials,
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arms traders and more,
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be able to hide their identities from us, the public?
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Why should this secrecy be such an accepted business practice?
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Anonymous companies
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might be the norm right now
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but it wasn't always this way.
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Companies were created
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to give people a chance to innovate
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and not have to put everything on the line.
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Companies were created to limit financial risk,
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they were never intended to be used as a moral shield.
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Companies were never intended to be anonymous,
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and they don't have to be.
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And so I come to my wish.
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My wish is for us to know
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who owns and controls companies
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so that they can no longer be used anonymously
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against the public good.
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Together let's ignite world opinion,
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change the law,
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and launch a new era of openness in business.
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So what might this look like?
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Well, imagine if you could go online
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and look up the real owner of a company.
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Imagine if this data were open and free,
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accessible across borders
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for citizens and businesses
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and law enforcement alike.
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Imagine what a game changer that would be.
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So how are we going to do this?
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Well, there is only one way.
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Together, we have to change the law globally
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to create public registries
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which list the true owners of companies
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and can be accessed by all
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with no loopholes.
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And yes, this is ambitious,
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but there is momentum on this issue,
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and over the years I have seen
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the sheer power of momentum,
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and it's just starting on this issue.
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There is such an opportunity right now.
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And the TED community
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of creative and innovative thinkers and doers
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across all of society
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could make the crucial difference.
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You really can make this change happen.
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Now, a simple starting point
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is the address behind me
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for a Facebook page that you can join now
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to support the campaign and spread the word.
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It's going to be a springboard
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for our global campaigning.
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And the techies among you,
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you could really help us create a prototype
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public registry
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to demonstrate what a powerful tool this could be.
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Campaign groups from around the world
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have come together to work on this issue.
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The U.K. government is already on board;
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it supports these public registries.
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And just last week,
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the European Parliament came on board
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with a vote 600 to 30 in favor of public registries.
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That is momentum.
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(Applause)
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But it's early days.
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America still needs to come on board,
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as do so many other countries.
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And to succeed we will all together
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need to help and push our politicians,
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because without that,
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real far-reaching, world-shifting change
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just isn't going to happen.
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Because this isn't just about changing the law,
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this is about starting a conversation
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about what it's okay for companies to do,
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and in what ways is it acceptable to use company structures.
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This isn't just a dry policy issue.
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This is a human issue
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which affects us all.
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This is about being on the right side of history.
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Global citizens, innovators, business leaders, individuals,
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we need you.
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Together, let's kickstart this global movement.
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Let's just do it,
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let's end anonymous companies.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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