What your smart devices know (and share) about you | Kashmir Hill and Surya Mattu

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: Elissa Jahjah ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Fatima Zahra El Hafa
00:12
Kashmir Hill: So for my birthday last year,
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ูƒุงุดู…ูŠุฑ ู‡ูŠู„: ุจู…ู†ุงุณุจุฉ ุนูŠุฏ ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏูŠ ุงู„ุณู†ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุฉ
ุฃู‡ุฏุงู†ูŠ ุฒูˆุฌูŠ ุฌู‡ุงุฒ "ุฃู…ุงุฒูˆู† ุฅูŠูƒูˆ".
00:15
my husband got me an Amazon Echo.
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00:17
I was kind of shocked, actually,
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ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉู‹ุŒ ุชูุงุฌุฃุช ู†ูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ุงุŒ
00:19
because we both work in privacy and security.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‘ ูƒู„ูŠู†ุง ูŠุนู…ู„ ููŠ ู…ุฌุงู„ ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุตูŠู‘ุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฃู…ู†.
00:22
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
00:24
And this was a device that would sit in the middle of our home
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ูˆูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ุฌู‡ุงุฒุงู‹ ุณูŠูˆุฌุฏ ููŠ ู…ู†ุชุตู ุจูŠุชู†ุง
00:28
with a microphone on,
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ู…ุน ู…ูŠูƒุฑูˆููˆู† ู…ุซุจู‘ุช ุจู‡ุŒ
00:29
constantly listening.
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ู…ู†ุตุชุงู‹ ุฅู„ูŠู†ุง ุทูˆุงู„ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช.
00:31
We're not alone, though.
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ู„ูƒู† ู„ุณู†ุง ุงู„ูˆุญูŠุฏูŠู†.
00:32
According to a survey by NPR and Edison Research,
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ูˆูู‚ ุฏุฑุงุณุฉ ุฃุฌุฑุชู‡ุง ุงู„ุฅุฐุงุนุฉ ุงู„ูˆุทู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุนุงู…ุฉ ูˆุดุฑูƒุฉ "ุฅูŠุฏูŠุณูˆู† ุฑูŠุณูˆุฑุชุด"
00:35
one in six American adults now has a smart speaker,
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ูุฅู† ูˆุงุญุฏู‹ุง ู…ู† ุณุชู‘ุฉ ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒูŠูŠู† ุจุงู„ุบูŠู† ูŠู…ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ู…ูƒุจู‘ุฑ ุตูˆุช ุฐูƒูŠุŒ
00:39
which means that they have a virtual assistant at home.
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ู…ู…ู‘ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู‘ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ู…ุณุงุนุฏู‹ุง ุงูุชุฑุงุถูŠู‘ู‹ุง ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„.
00:42
Like, that's wild.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุฌู†ูˆู†!
00:44
The future, or the future dystopia, is getting here fast.
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ุฅู†ู‘ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ุŒ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู…ุธู„ู…ุŒ ูŠุตู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ู‡ู†ุง ุจุณุฑุนุฉ.
00:48
Beyond that, companies are offering us all kinds of internet-connected devices.
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ุฃุจุนุฏ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุชู‚ุฏู‘ู… ู„ู†ุง ุงู„ุดุฑูƒุงุช ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ูˆุงุน ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ ุงู„ู…ุชู‘ุตู„ุฉ ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช.
00:53
There are smart lights, smart locks, smart toilets, smart toys,
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ู‡ู†ุงู„ูƒ ุฃุถูˆุงุก ุฐูƒูŠุฉุŒ ุฃู‚ูุงู„ ุฐูƒูŠุฉุŒ ู…ุฑุงุญูŠุถ ุฐูƒูŠุฉุŒ ุฃู„ุนุงุจ ุฐูƒูŠุฉุŒ
00:58
smart sex toys.
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ุฃู„ุนุงุจ ุฌู†ุณูŠู‘ุฉ ุฐูƒูŠุฉ.
01:00
Being smart means the device can connect to the internet,
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ูƒูˆู†ู‡ุง ุฐูƒูŠุฉ ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฌู‡ุงุฒ ูŠุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุชุŒ
01:03
it can gather data,
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ูŠุณุชุทูŠุน ุฌู…ุน ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุชุŒ
01:04
and it can talk to its owner.
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ูˆูŠุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู„ุชุญุฏู‘ุซ ู„ู…ุงู„ููƒู‡.
01:06
But once your appliances can talk to you,
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ู„ูƒู† ุจู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู† ุชุชู…ูƒู† ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ ุงู„ุฎุงุตุฉ ุจูƒ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุญุฏู‘ุซ ุฅู„ูŠูƒุŒ
01:09
who else are they going to be talking to?
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ู…ุน ู…ู† ุณูŠุชุญุฏู‘ุซูˆู† ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ุŸ
01:12
I wanted to find out,
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ุฃุฑุฏุช ุฃู† ุฃุนุฑู ุฐู„ูƒุŒ
01:13
so I went all-in and turned my one-bedroom apartment in San Francisco
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ู„ุฐุง ู…ุถูŠุช ูˆุญูˆู‘ู„ุช ุดู‚ู‘ุชูŠ ุฐุงุช ุบุฑูุฉ ุงู„ู†ูˆู… ุงู„ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ููŠ ุณุงู† ูุฑุงู†ุณูŠุณูƒูˆ
01:17
into a smart home.
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ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ู†ุฒู„ู ุฐูƒูŠ.
01:18
I even connected our bed to the internet.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูˆุตู„ุช ุญุชู‰ ุณุฑูŠุฑู†ุง ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช.
01:22
As far as I know, it was just measuring our sleeping habits.
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ุนู„ู‰ ุญู‘ุฏ ุนู„ู…ูŠุŒ ูƒุงู† ูŠู‚ูŠุณ ูู‚ุท ุนุงุฏุงุช ู†ูˆู…ู†ุง.
01:26
I can now tell you that the only thing worse
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ุจุฅู…ูƒุงู†ูŠ ุฅุฎุจุงุฑูƒู… ุฃู† ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ูˆุญูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฃุณูˆุฃ
01:28
than getting a terrible night's sleep
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ู…ู† ู„ูŠู„ุฉู ู†ูˆู…ู ุบูŠุฑ ู‡ู†ูŠุฆุฉ
01:30
is to have your smart bed tell you the next day
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ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ูŠุฎุจุฑูƒู… ุณุฑูŠุฑูƒู… ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุงู„ุชู‘ุงู„ูŠ
01:32
that you "missed your goal and got a low sleep score."
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ุฃู†ู‘ูƒู… ู‚ุฏ "ููˆู‘ุชู‘ู… ู‡ุฏููƒู… ูˆุญุตู„ุชู… ุนู„ู‰ ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ู†ูˆู… ู…ุชุฏู†ูŠู‘ุฉ."
01:35
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
01:37
It's like, "Thanks, smart bed.
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ูุชูˆุฏู‘ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„: "ุดูƒุฑุงู‹ ุฃูŠู‘ู‡ุง ุงู„ุณุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠ.
01:38
As if I didn't already feel like shit today."
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ูƒุฃู†ู‘ู†ูŠ ู„ุง ุฃุดุนุฑ ุจุงู„ุณู‘ูˆุก ุจู…ุง ููŠู‡ ุงู„ูƒูุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ูŠูˆู…."
01:41
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
01:42
All together, I installed 18 internet-connected devices in my home.
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ุจุงู„ุฅุฌู…ุงู„ุŒ ู‚ู…ุช ุจุชุซุจูŠุช 18 ุฌู‡ุงุฒ ู…ุชู‘ุตู„ ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช ููŠ ู…ู†ุฒู„ูŠ.
01:47
I also installed a Surya.
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ู‚ู…ุช ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุจุชุซุจูŠุช "ุณูŠุฑูŠุง".
01:49
Surya Mattu: Hi, I'm Surya.
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ุณูŠุฑูŠุง ู…ุงุชูˆ: ู…ุฑุญุจุงู‹ุŒ ุฃู†ุง ุณูŠุฑูŠุง.
01:50
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
01:51
I monitored everything the smart home did.
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ุฑุงู‚ุจุช ูƒู„ ุดูŠุก ูุนู„ู‡ ุงู„ุจูŠุช ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠ.
01:54
I built a special router that let me look at all the network activity.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ู‚ู…ุช ุจุฅู†ุดุงุก ู…ูˆุฌู‘ู‡ ุฎุงุต ูŠุณู…ุญ ู„ูŠ ุจุฑุคูŠุฉ ูƒู„ ู†ุดุงุท ุงู„ุดู‘ุจูƒุฉ.
01:58
You can think of my router sort of like a security guard,
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒู… ุงู„ุชู‘ููƒูŠุฑ ููŠ ุฌู‡ุงุฒ ุงู„ุชู‘ูˆุฌูŠู‡ ุงู„ุฎุงุต ุจูŠ ูƒุญุงุฑุณ ุฃู…ู† ู†ูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ุงุŒ
02:01
compulsively logging all the network packets
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ูู‡ูˆ ูŠุณุฌู‘ู„ ุจุดูƒู„ ุฅู„ุฒุงู…ูŠ ูƒู„ ุญุฒู… ุงู„ุดุจูƒุฉ
02:03
as they entered and left the smart home.
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ุฃุซู†ุงุก ุฏุฎูˆู„ู‡ุง ูˆู…ุบุงุฏุฑุชู‡ุง ู„ู„ู…ู†ุฒู„ ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠ.
02:06
KH: Surya and I are both journalists, he's not my husband,
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ูƒ.ู‡: ุฃู†ุง ูˆุณูŠุฑูŠุง ุตุญููŠุงู†ุŒ ู‡ูˆ ู„ูŠุณ ุฒูˆุฌูŠุŒ
02:08
we just work together at Gizmodo.
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ู†ุญู† ูู‚ุท ู†ุนู…ู„ ุณูˆูŠู‘ุงู‹ ููŠ ุดุฑูƒุฉ "ุฌุฒู…ูˆุฏูˆ".
02:10
SM: Thank you for clarifying.
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ุณ.ู…: ุดูƒุฑุงู‹ ู„ู„ุชู‘ูˆุถูŠุญ.
02:11
The devices Kashmir bought --
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ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุญุถุฑุชู‡ุง ูƒุงุดู…ูŠุฑ...
02:13
we were interested in understanding
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ูƒู†ุง ู…ู‡ุชู…ู‘ูŠู† ุจูู‡ู…
ู…ุง ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู†ู‡ ู„ู…ุตู†ู‘ุนูŠู‡ู….
02:15
what they were saying to their manufacturers.
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02:17
But we were also interested in understanding
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ู„ูƒู† ูƒู†ุง ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ู…ู‡ุชู…ู‘ูŠู† ุจูู‡ู…
02:19
what the home's digital emissions look like
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ูƒูŠู ุชุจุฏูˆ ุงู†ุจุนุงุซุงุช ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„ ุงู„ุฑู‚ู…ูŠู‘ุฉ
02:21
to the internet service provider.
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ู„ู…ุฒูˆู‘ุฏูŠ ุฎุฏู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช.
02:23
We were seeing what the ISP could see, but more importantly,
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ูƒู†ุง ู†ุฑู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุฑุงู‡ ู…ุฒูˆู‘ุฏูˆ ุฎุฏู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุชุŒ ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฃู‡ู…ูŠู‘ุฉ
02:26
what they could sell.
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ูƒู†ุง ู†ุฑู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุณุชุทูŠุนูˆู† ุจูŠุนู‡.
02:28
KH: We ran the experiment for two months.
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ูƒ.ู‡: ุฃุฌุฑูŠู†ุง ุงู„ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ู„ู…ุฏุฉ ุดู‡ุฑูŠู†.
02:30
In that two months,
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ุฎู„ุงู„ ู‡ุฐูŠู† ุงู„ุดู‡ุฑูŠู†
02:31
there wasn't a single hour of digital silence in the house --
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ู„ู… ุชูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุณุงุนุฉ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุตู…ุช ุงู„ุฑู‚ู…ูŠู‘ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„ุŒ
02:34
not even when we went away for a week.
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ูˆู„ุง ุญุชู‰ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุบุจู†ุง ู„ุฃุณุจูˆุน.
02:36
SM: Yeah, it's so true.
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ุณ.ู…: ู†ุนู…ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุตุญูŠุญ.
02:37
Based on the data, I knew when you guys woke up and went to bed.
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ุจู†ุงุกู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุชุŒ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุนุฑู ู…ุชู‰ ูƒู†ุชู… ุชุณุชูŠู‚ุธูˆู† ูˆุชู†ุงู…ูˆู†.
02:40
I even knew when Kashmir brushed her teeth.
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ูƒู†ุช ุฃุนุฑู ุญุชู‰ ู…ุชู‰ ุชู†ุธู ูƒุงุดู…ูŠุฑ ุฃุณู†ุงู†ู‡ุง.
02:42
I'm not going to out your brushing habits,
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ู„ู† ุฃูุตุญ ุนู† ุนุงุฏุงุช ุชู†ุธูŠู ุฃุณู†ุงู†ูƒุŒ
02:44
but let's just say it was very clear to me when you were working from home.
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ู„ูƒู† ุฏุนูŠู†ุง ูู‚ุท ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุฃู†ู‡ ูƒุงู† ูˆุงุถุญุงู‹ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ุชุนู…ู„ูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„.
02:48
KH: Uh, I think you just outed them to, like, a lot of people here.
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ูƒ.ู‡: ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ูƒ ุฃูุตุญุช ุนู†ู‡ู… ู„ู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู†ูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ุง.
02:51
SM: Don't be embarrassed, it's just metadata.
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ุณ.ู…: ู„ุง ุชุดุนุฑูŠ ุจุงู„ุฅุญุฑุงุฌุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ุง ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ูˆุตููŠู‘ุฉ.
02:54
I knew when you turned on your TV and how long you watched it for.
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ูƒู†ุช ุฃุนุฑู ู…ุชู‰ ุชู‚ูˆู…ูŠู† ุจุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ุชู„ูุฒูŠูˆู† ูˆุงู„ู…ุฏุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุดุงู‡ุฏุชู‡ ููŠู‡ุง.
02:57
Fun fact about the Hill household:
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ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ู…ุณู„ู‘ูŠุฉ ุนู† ุนุงุฆู„ุฉ ู‡ูŠู„:
02:59
they don't watch a lot of television,
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ุฅู†ู‡ู… ู„ุง ูŠุชุงุจุนูˆู† ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชู„ูุฒูŠูˆู†ุŒ
03:01
but when they do, it's usually in binge mode.
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ู„ูƒู† ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠูุนู„ูˆู†ุŒ ูŠูƒูˆู† ุนุงุฏุฉู‹ ุจุดูƒู„ู ู…ุทูˆู‘ู„.
03:03
Favorite shows include "Difficult People" and "Party Down."
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ุจุฑุงู…ุฌู‡ู… ุงู„ู…ูุถู„ุฉ ุชุดู…ู„ "ุฏูŠููŠูƒูˆู„ุช ุจูŠุจูˆู„" ูˆ"ุจุงุฑุชูŠ ุฏุงูˆู†"
03:06
KH: OK, you're right, I loved "Party Down."
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ูƒ.ู‡: ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุฃู†ุช ุนู„ู‰ ุญู‚ุŒ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุญุจ "ุจุงุฑุชูŠ ุฏุงูˆู†"
03:08
It's a great show, and you should definitely watch it.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌ ุฑุงุฆุนุŒ ูˆุนู„ูŠูƒ ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏุชู‡ ุจุงู„ุชุฃูƒูŠุฏ.
03:10
But "Difficult People" was all my husband, Trevor.
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ู„ูƒู† ุฒูˆุฌูŠ ุชุฑูŠููˆุฑ ู‡ูˆ ู…ู† ูƒุงู† ูŠุดุงู‡ุฏ "ุฏูŠููŠูƒูˆู„ุช ุจูŠุจูˆู„"
03:13
And Trevor was actually a little upset that you knew about his binges,
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ุงุณุชุงุก ุชุฑูŠููˆุฑ ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุงู‹ ู„ู…ุนุฑูุชูƒ ุจุงู†ุบู…ุงุณู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏุฉุŒ
03:16
because even though he'd been the one to connect the TV to the router,
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ู„ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฑุบู… ู…ู† ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุตู„ ุงู„ุชู„ูุฒูŠูˆู† ุจุงู„ู…ูˆุฌู‘ู‡ุŒ
03:20
he forgot that the TV was watching us.
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ูู‚ุฏ ู†ุณูŠูŽ ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ุชู„ูุฒูŠูˆู† ูƒุงู† ูŠุดุงู‡ุฏู†ุง.
03:23
It's actually not the first time that our TV has spied on us.
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ุฅู†ู‘ู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู„ูŠุณุช ุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชุฌุณู‘ุณ ููŠู‡ุง ุชู„ูุฒูŠูˆู†ู†ุง ุนู„ูŠู†ุง.
03:26
The company that made it, VIZIO,
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ุฅู†ู‘ ุดุฑูƒุฉ " ููŠุฒูŠูˆ" ุงู„ุชูŠ ุตู†ุนุชู‡
03:28
paid a 2.2 million-dollar settlement to the government just last year,
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ุฏูุนุช ุชุณูˆูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุญูƒูˆู…ุฉ ู‚ุฏุฑู‡ุง 2,2 ู…ู„ูŠูˆู† ุฏูˆู„ุงุฑ ุงู„ุณู†ุฉ ุงู„ูุงุฆุชุฉ ูู‚ุท
03:32
because it had been collecting second-by-second information
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุชุฌู…ุน ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุช ูƒู„ ุซุงู†ูŠุฉ
03:35
about what millions of people were watching on TV, including us,
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ุนู…ู‘ุง ูŠุดุงู‡ุฏ ู…ู„ุงูŠูŠู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชู„ูุฒูŠูˆู†ุŒ ูˆู†ุญู† ู…ู† ุถู…ู†ู‡ู…ุŒ
03:39
and then it was selling that information to data brokers and advertisers.
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ุซู… ุชุจูŠุน ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุช ุฅู„ู‰ ูˆุณุทุงุก ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ูˆุงู„ู…ุนู„ูู†ูŠู†.
03:43
SM: Ah, classic surveillance economy move.
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ุณ.ู…: ุขู‡ุŒ ุญุฑูƒุฉ ู…ุฑุงู‚ุจุฉ ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏูŠู‘ุฉ ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠู‘ุฉ.
03:46
The devices Kashmir bought almost all pinged their servers daily.
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ุชู‚ุฑูŠุจุงู‹ ูƒู„ู‘ ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุงุดุชุฑุชู‡ุง ูƒุงุดู…ูŠุฑ ุชูˆุงุตู„ุช ู…ุน ุฎูˆุงุฏู…ู‡ุง ูŠูˆู…ูŠุงู‹.
03:50
But do you know which device was especially chatty?
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ู„ูƒู† ุฃุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุฃูŠ ุฌู‡ุงุฒ ูƒุงู† ูŠู‡ุฐุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ูˆุฌู‡ ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุตุŸ
03:53
The Amazon Echo.
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ุฅู†ู‘ู‡ "ุฃู…ุงุฒูˆู† ุฅูŠูƒูˆ".
03:54
It contacted its servers every three minutes,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุงุชุตู„ ุจุฎูˆุงุฏู…ู‡ ูƒู„ ุซู„ุงุซ ุฏู‚ุงุฆู‚ุŒ
03:56
regardless of whether you were using it or not.
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ุณูˆุงุก ูƒู†ุชู… ุชุณุชุฎุฏู…ูˆู†ู‡ ุฃู… ู„ุง.
03:59
KH: In general, it was disconcerting
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ูƒ.ู‡: ุนู…ูˆู…ุงู‹ุŒ ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู‚ู„ู‚
04:01
that all these devices were having ongoing conversations
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ุฃู†ู‘ ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ ุชูุฌุฑูŠ ู…ุญุงุฏุซุงุช ู‚ุงุฆู…ุฉ
04:04
that were invisible to me.
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ูˆุบูŠุฑ ู…ุฑุฆูŠู‘ุฉ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ.
04:05
I mean, I would have had no idea, without your router.
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ู…ู† ุฏูˆู† ุฌู‡ุงุฒ ุงู„ุชูˆุฌูŠู‡ ุฎุงุตู‘ุชูƒุŒ ู„ู… ุฃูƒู† ู„ุฃุนุฑู ุฃุจุฏุงู‹.
04:08
If you buy a smart device, you should probably know --
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ุฅุฐุง ุงุดุชุฑูŠุช ุฌู‡ุงุฒู‹ุง ุฐูƒูŠุงู‹ุŒ ุฑุจู…ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠูƒ ุฃู† ุชุนุฑู
04:12
you're going to own the device,
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ุฃู†ู‘ูƒ ุณุชู…ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฌู‡ุงุฒ
04:14
but in general, the company is going to own your data.
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ู„ูƒู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนู…ูˆู…ุŒ ุณุชู…ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุดุฑูƒุฉ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุชูƒ ุงู„ุฎุงุตู‘ุฉ.
04:17
And you know, I mean, maybe that's to be expected --
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ูˆูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ู‚ุฏ ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุชูˆู‚ู‘ุนุงู‹...
04:20
you buy an internet-connected device, it's going to use the internet.
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชุดุชุฑูŠ ุฌู‡ุงุฒุงู‹ ู…ุชู‘ุตู„ุงู‹ ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุชุŒ ูุณูŠุณุชุฎุฏู… ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช.
04:24
But it's strange to have these devices
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ู„ูƒู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุบุฑูŠุจ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ
04:26
moving into the intimate space that is the home
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ุชุชุญุฑู‘ูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุงุญุฉ ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุตูŠู‘ุฉ ูˆู‡ูŠ ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„
04:28
and allowing companies to track our really basic behavior there.
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ูˆุชุณู…ุญ ู„ู„ุดุฑูƒุงุช ุจุชุนู‚ู‘ุจ ุณู„ูˆูƒู†ุง ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณูŠู‘ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ.
04:32
SM: So true.
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ุณ.ู…: ุจุงู„ูุนู„.
ุญุชู‰ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุจุฏูˆ ุนุงุฏูŠุฉ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงุณุชุฎุฑุงุฌู‡ุง ุจูˆุงุณุทุฉ ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏ ุงู„ู…ุฑุงู‚ุจุฉ.
04:33
Even the most banal-seeming data can be mined by the surveillance economy.
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04:36
For example, who cares how often you brush your teeth?
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ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ุŒ ู…ู† ูŠู‡ุชู… ูƒู… ู…ุฑุฉ ุชู‚ูˆู…ูŠู† ุจุชู†ุธูŠู ุฃุณู†ุงู†ูƒุŸ
04:39
Well, as it turns out, there's a dental insurance company called Beam.
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุจุฏูˆุŒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุดุฑูƒุฉ ุชุฃู…ูŠู† ู„ุทุจ ุงู„ุฃุณู†ุงู† ุชุฏุนู‰ "ุจูŠู…".
04:43
They've been monitoring their customers' smart toothbrushes since 2015 --
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ุฅู†ู‘ู‡ู… ูŠุฑุงู‚ุจูˆู† ููุฑูŽุด ุงู„ุฃุณู†ุงู† ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠุฉ ู„ุนู…ู„ุงุฆู‡ู… ู…ู†ุฐ ุนุงู… 2015
04:46
for discounts on their premiums, of course.
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ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ ุงู„ุญุตูˆู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุฎููŠุถุงุช ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู‚ุณุงุท ุชุฃู…ูŠู†ู‡ู… ุจุงู„ุทุจุน.
04:49
KH: We know what some of you are thinking:
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ูƒ.ู‡: ู†ุนู„ู… ุฃู†ู‘ ุจุนุถูƒู… ูŠููƒู‘ุฑ
04:51
this is the contract of the modern world.
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ุฃู†ู‘ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุนู‚ุฏ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ.
04:54
You give up a little privacy,
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ุญูŠุซ ุชุชุฎู„ู‰ ุนู† ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุตูŠุฉ
04:55
and you get some convenience or some price breaks in return.
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ูˆุชุญุตู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุณู‡ูŠู„ ุฃูˆ ุชุฎููŠุถ ุณุนุฑ ุจุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุจู„.
04:59
But that wasn't my experience in my smart home.
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ู„ูƒู† ู„ู… ุชูƒู† ุชุฌุฑุจุชูŠ ู‡ูƒุฐุง ููŠ ู…ู†ุฒู„ูŠ ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠ.
05:01
It wasn't convenient, it was infuriating.
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ู„ู… ุชูƒู† ู…ู„ุงุฆู…ุฉุŒ ุจู„ ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ูุบูŠุธุฉ.
05:05
I'll admit, I love my smart vacuum,
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ุฃู†ุง ุฃุนุชุฑูุŒ ุฃู†ุง ุฃุญุจ ู…ูƒู†ุณุฉ ุงู„ูƒู‡ุฑุจุงุก ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠุฉ ุฎุงุตู‘ุชูŠุŒ
05:08
but many other things in the house drove me insane:
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„ ุฏูุนุชู†ูŠ ู„ู„ุฌู†ูˆู†:
05:10
we ran out of electrical outlets,
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ู†ูุฐุช ู…ู†ุง ู…ุขุฎุฐ ุงู„ุชู‘ูŠุงุฑ ุงู„ูƒู‡ุฑุจุงุฆูŠุŒ
05:12
and I had to download over a dozen apps to my phone
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ูˆุงุถุทุฑุฑุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุชุญู…ูŠู„ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ุนุดุฑุฉ ุชุทุจูŠู‚ุงุช ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุงุชููŠ
05:16
to control everything.
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ู„ู„ุชุญูƒู‘ู… ุจูƒู„ู‘ ุดูŠุก.
05:17
And then every device had its own log-in,
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ุซู…ู‘ ูƒุงู† ู„ูƒู„ู‘ ุฌู‡ุงุฒ ุชุณุฌูŠู„ ุฏุฎูˆู„ ุฎุงุต ุจู‡ุŒ
05:19
my toothbrush had a password ...
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ูƒุงู† ู„ูุฑุดุงุฉ ุฃุดู†ุงู†ูŠ ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุณุฑู‘
05:22
(Laughter)
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05:23
And smart coffee, especially, was just a world of hell.
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ูˆุงู„ู‚ู‡ูˆุฉ ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠุฉ ุฎุงุตู‘ุฉู‹ ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุฌุฑู‘ุฏ ุนุงู„ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุฌุญูŠู….
05:28
SM: Wait, really? Cloud-powered coffee wasn't really working for you?
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ุณ.ู…: ู„ุญุธุฉุŒ ุญู‚ุงู‹ุŸ ุฌู‡ุงุฒ ุงู„ู‚ู‡ูˆุฉ ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠ ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู†ุงุฌุญุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูƒุŸ
05:32
KH: I mean, maybe I'm naive, but I thought it was going to be great.
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ูƒ.ู‡: ุฑุจู…ุง ุฃู†ุง ุณุงุฐุฌุฉุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู‘ูŠ ุงุนุชู‚ุฏุช ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ุฑุงุฆุนุงู‹.
05:35
I thought we'd just wake up in the morning and we'd say, "Alexa, make us coffee."
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ุงุนุชู‚ุฏุช ุฃู†ู‘ู†ุง ุณู†ุณุชูŠู‚ุธ ุตุจุงุญุงู‹ ูˆู†ู‚ูˆู„: "ุฃู„ูŠูƒุณุงุŒ ุฃุนุฏู‘ูŠ ู„ู†ุง ุงู„ู‚ู‡ูˆุฉ"
05:39
But that's not how it went down.
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ู„ูƒู† ู„ู… ุชุฌุฑู ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ู‘ุญูˆ.
05:41
We had to use this really particular, brand-specific phrase to make it work.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุณุชุฎุฏู… ุจุดูƒู„ู ู…ุญุฏู‘ุฏ ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ููŠู‡ุง ุนู„ุงู…ุฉ ุชุฌุงุฑูŠู‘ุฉ ุฎุงุตุฉ ู„ุฌุนู„ู‡ุง ุชุนู…ู„.
05:45
It was, "Alexa, ask the Behmor to run quick start."
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช: "ุฃู„ูŠูƒุณุงุŒ ุงุทู„ุจูŠ ู…ู† ู…ุนุฏู‘ ุงู„ู‚ู‡ูˆุฉ "ุจูŠู…ูˆุฑ" ุฃู† ูŠุจุฏุฃ ุงู„ุชุดุบูŠู„"
05:51
And this was just, like, really hard to remember
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ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุตุนุจ ุญู‚ุงู‘ ุชุฐูƒู‘ุฑ ุฐู„ูƒ
05:54
first thing in the morning,
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ููŠ ุงู„ุตุจู‘ุงุญ ุงู„ุจุงูƒุฑ
05:55
before you have had your caffeine.
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ู‚ุจู„ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู‚ุฏ ุญุตู„ุช ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ูƒุงููŠูŠู†.
05:57
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
05:58
And apparently, it was hard to say,
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ูˆูƒู…ุง ูŠุจุฏูˆุŒ ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุตุนุจ ู‚ูˆู„ู‡
06:00
because the Echo Dot that was right next to our bed
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ู„ุฃู† ุฌู‡ุงุฒ "ุฅูŠูƒูˆ ุฏูˆุช" ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู† ุจุฌูˆุงุฑ ุณุฑูŠุฑู†ุง
06:03
just couldn't understand us.
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ู„ู… ูŠุณุชุทุน ูู‡ู…ู†ุง.
06:05
So we would basically start every day by screaming this phrase at the Echo Dot.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒู†ุง ู†ุจุฏุฃ ูŠูˆู…ู†ุง ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃุณุงุณูŠ ุจุงู„ุตู‘ุฑุงุฎ ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ู„ุฌู‡ุงุฒ "ุฅูŠูƒูˆ ุฏูˆุช".
06:10
(Laughter)
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06:11
And Trevor hated this.
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ูƒุฑู‡ ุชุฑูŠููˆุฑ ุฐู„ูƒ.
06:13
He'd be like, "Please, Kashmir,
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ูƒุงู† ูŠู‚ูˆู„: "ูƒุงุดู…ูŠุฑุŒ ุฃุฑุฌูˆูƒุŒ
06:15
just let me go to the kitchen and push the button to make the coffee run."
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ุฏุนูŠู†ูŠ ูู‚ุท ุฃุฐู‡ุจ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุทุจุฎ ูˆุฃุถุบุท ุงู„ุฒุฑ ู„ุตู†ุน ุงู„ู‚ู‡ูˆุฉ."
06:19
And I'd be like, "No, you can't!
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ูˆูƒู†ุช ุฃุฌูŠุจ: "ู„ุงุŒ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ!
06:21
We have to do it the smart way!"
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ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠุฉ!"
06:23
(Laughter)
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06:25
I'm happy to report that our marriage survived the experiment,
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ูŠุณุฑู‘ู†ูŠ ุฃู† ุฃุจู„ุบูƒู… ุฃู†ู‘ ุฒูˆุงุฌู†ุง ู†ุฌุง ุฎู„ุงู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุชู‘ุฌุฑุจุฉุŒ
06:28
but just barely.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ุจุงู„ูƒุงุฏ.
06:30
SM: If you decide to make your home smart,
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ุณ.ู…: ุฅุฐุง ู‚ุฑุฑุชู… ุฃู† ุชุฌุนู„ูˆุง ู…ู†ุงุฒู„ูƒู… ุฐูƒูŠุฉุŒ
06:32
hopefully, youโ€™ll find it less infuriating than Kashmir did.
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ุขู…ู„ ุฃู† ุชุฌุฏูˆุง ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู‚ู„ู‘ ุฅุซุงุฑุฉู‹ ู„ู„ุบูŠุธ ู…ู…ุง ูุนู„ุช ูƒุงุดู…ูŠุฑ.
06:35
But regardless, the smart things you buy
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ู„ูƒู† ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุญุงู„ุŒ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุดุชุฑูˆู†ู‡ุง
06:37
can and probably are used to target and profile you.
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ูˆุฑุจู…ุง ุจุงู„ูุนู„ ูŠุชู…ู‘ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุง ู„ุงุณุชู‡ุฏุงููƒ ูˆุชุดุฎูŠุตูƒ.
06:41
Just the number of devices you have can be used to predict
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ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ู„ูˆุญุฏู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ ู„ู„ุชู†ุจู‘ุค
06:44
how rich or poor you are.
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ูƒู… ุฃู†ุช ุบู†ูŠู‘ ุฃูˆ ูู‚ูŠุฑ.
06:45
Facebook's made this tech, and they've also patented it.
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ุงุจุชูƒุฑ ุงู„ููŠุณุจูˆูƒ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ูˆุญุตู„ูˆุง ุนู„ู‰ ุจุฑุงุกุฉ ุงุฎุชุฑุงุน.
06:48
KH: All the anxiety you currently feel every time you go online,
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ูƒ.ู‡: ูƒู„ ุงู„ู‚ู„ู‚ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุชุดุนุฑูˆู† ุจู‡ ุญุงู„ูŠุงู‹ ูƒู„ ู…ุฑุฉ ุชุชุตู„ูˆู† ููŠู‡ุง ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช
06:52
about being tracked,
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ุจุฎุตูˆุต ุฃู† ูŠุชู… ุชุนู‚ู‘ุจูƒู…
06:53
is about to move into your living room.
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ุนู„ู‰ ูˆุดูƒ ุฃู† ูŠู†ุชู‚ู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุบุฑูุฉ ู…ุนูŠุดุชูƒู….
06:55
Or into your bedroom.
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ุฃูˆ ุฅู„ู‰ ุบุฑูุฉ ู†ูˆู…ูƒู….
06:57
There's this sex toy called the We-Vibe.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู„ุนุจุฉ ุฌู†ุณูŠู‘ุฉ ุชุณู…ู‰ "ูˆูŠ ูุงูŠุจ".
07:00
You might wonder why a sex toy connects to the internet,
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ู‚ุฏ ุชุชุณุงุกู„ูˆู† ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู‚ุฏ ุชุชุตู„ ู„ุนุจุฉ ุฌู†ุณูŠู‘ุฉ ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุชุŒ
07:03
but it's for two people who are in a long-distance relationship,
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ู…ุตู…ู‘ู…ุฉ ู„ุดุฎุตูŠู† ููŠ ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุชูุตู„ู‡ู…ุง ู…ุณุงูุฉ ุจุนูŠุฏุฉุŒ
07:06
so they can share their love from afar.
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ู„ูƒูŠ ูŠุณุชุทูŠุนุง ุชุจุงุฏู„ ุญุจู‘ู‡ู…ุง ุนู† ุจุนุฏ.
ุฃุฎุฐ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุงุตู†ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู„ูƒุชุฑูˆู†ูŠูŠู† ู†ุธุฑุฉ ูุงุญุตุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู„ุนุจุฉ
07:10
Some hackers took a close look at this toy
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07:12
and saw it was sending a lot of information
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ูˆุฑุฃูˆุง ุฃู†ู‡ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุชุฑุณู„ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุช
07:14
back to the company that made it --
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุดุฑูƒุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุตู†ุนุชู‡ุง...
07:16
when it was used, how long it was used for,
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ู…ุชู‰ ุชู…ู‘ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุงุŒ ูƒู… ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุชู…ู‘ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุงุŒ
07:19
what the vibration settings were, how hot the toy got.
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ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุฅุนุฏุงุฏุงุช ุงู„ุงู‡ุชุฒุงุฒุŒ ูƒู… ุงุฑุชูุนุช ุญุฑุงุฑุฉ ุงู„ู‘ู„ุนุจุฉ.
07:23
It was all going into a database.
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ูƒู„ู‘ ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒุงู† ูŠุณุฌู‘ู„ ููŠ ู‚ุงุนุฏุฉ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช.
07:25
So I reached out to the company,
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ู„ุฐุง ุชูˆุงุตู„ุช ู…ุน ุงู„ุดุฑูƒุฉุŒ
07:28
and I said, "Why are you collecting this really sensitive data?"
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ูˆุณุฃู„ุชู‡ู…: "ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุชุฌู…ุนูˆู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุงู„ุญุณู‘ุงุณุฉ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉุŸ"
07:32
And they said, "Well, it's great for market research."
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ูˆู‚ุงู„ูˆุงุŒ "ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุนุธูŠู…ุฉ ู„ุฃุจุญุงุซ ุงู„ุณูˆู‚".
07:36
But they were data-mining their customers' orgasms.
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ูŠู†ุจุดูˆู† ููŠ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ู†ุดูˆุฉ ุฒุจุงุฆู†ู‡ู… ุงู„ุฌู†ุณูŠู‘ุฉ.
07:39
And they weren't telling them about it.
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ูˆูƒุงู†ูˆุง ู„ุง ูŠุฎุจุฑูˆู†ู‡ู… ุนู† ุฐู„ูƒ.
07:41
I mean, even if you're cavalier about privacy,
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ุฃุนู†ูŠุŒ ุญุชู‰ ู„ูˆ ูƒู†ุช ุดู‡ู…ุงู‹ ุจุดุฃู† ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุตูŠู‘ุฉุŒ
07:43
I hope that you would admit that's a step too far.
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ุขู…ู„ ุฃู† ุชุนุชุฑู ุฃู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุฎุทูˆุฉ ู…ุชุทุฑู‘ูุฉ.
07:46
SM: This is why I want to keep my sex toys dumb.
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ุณ.ู…: ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ุชุธู„ู‘ ุฃู„ุนุงุจูŠ ุงู„ุฌู†ุณูŠู‘ุฉ ุบุจูŠุฉ.
07:49
KH: That's great.
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ูƒ.ู‡: ู‡ุฐุง ุฑุงุฆุน.
07:50
We're all very glad to know that.
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ู†ุญู† ุฌู…ูŠุนุงู‹ ู…ุณุฑูˆุฑูˆู† ู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุฐู„ูƒ.
07:52
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
07:53
SM: A data point I'm willing to share.
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ุณ.ู…: ู…ุฌุฑู‘ุฏ ู†ู‚ุทุฉ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุฃุฑุบุจ ุจู…ุดุงุฑูƒุชู‡ุง.
07:55
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
07:57
The devices Kashmir bought range from useful to annoying.
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ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุงุดุชุฑุชู‡ุง ูƒุงุดู…ูŠุฑ ุชุชุฑุงูˆุญ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฒุนุฌ.
08:00
But the thing they all had in common
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ู…ุดุชุฑูƒ ุจูŠู†ู‡ุง
08:02
was sharing data with the companies that made them.
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ูƒุงู† ู…ุดุงุฑูƒุฉ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ู…ุน ุงู„ุดุฑูƒุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุตู†ุนุชู‡ุง.
08:04
With email service providers and social media,
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ู…ุน ู…ุฒูˆุฏูŠ ุฎุฏู…ุฉ ุงู„ุจุฑูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฅู„ูƒุชุฑูˆู†ูŠ ูˆูˆุณุงุฆุท ุงู„ุชูˆุงุตู„ ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุŒ
08:07
we've long been told that if it's free, you're the product.
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ู„ุทุงู„ู…ุง ู‚ูŠู„ ู„ู†ุง ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู…ุฌุงู†ูŠุงู‹ ูุฃู†ุช ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ูู†ุชุฌ.
08:10
But with the internet of things, it seems,
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ู„ูƒู† ู…ุน ุงุฑุชุจุงุท ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช ุจุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุกุŒ
08:12
even if you pay, you're still the product.
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ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ุญุชู‰ ุฅุฐุง ุฏูุนุชุŒ ู…ุง ุฒู„ุช ุฃู†ุช ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ู†ุชุฌ.
08:14
So you really have to ask:
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ู„ุฐุง ุนู„ูŠูƒ ุญู‚ุงู‹ ุฃู† ุชุณุฃู„:
08:15
Who's the true beneficiary of your smart home,
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ู…ู† ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุณุชููŠุฏ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠ ู…ู† ู…ู†ุฒู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฐูƒูŠุŒ
08:17
you or the company mining you?
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ุฃู†ุช ุฃู… ุงู„ุดุฑูƒุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุณุชุฎุฑุฌ ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุชูƒุŸ
08:19
KH: Look, we're a tech savvy crowd here.
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ูƒ.ู‡: ุงู†ุธุฑุŒ ู†ุญู† ุญุดุฏ ุจุงุฑุน ุจุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ู‡ู†ุง.
08:21
I think most of us know that these things connect to the internet
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ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ู…ุนุธู…ู†ุง ูŠุนุฑู ุฃู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุชุชู‘ุตู„ ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช
ูˆุชุฑุณู„ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช.
08:24
and send data out.
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08:25
And fine, maybe you're OK with living in that commercial panopticon,
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ูˆุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุฑุจู…ุง ู„ุง ุชู…ุงู†ุน ุงู„ุนูŠุด ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณู‘ุฌู† ุงู„ุชุฌุงุฑูŠุŒ
08:29
but others aren't.
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุขุฎุฑูŠู† ูŠู…ุงู†ุนูˆู†.
08:31
We need the companies to rethink the design of these devices
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ู†ุญู† ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ู„ุฃู† ุชุนูŠุฏ ุงู„ุดุฑูƒุงุช ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ุจุชุตู…ูŠู… ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ
08:34
with our privacy in mind,
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ู…ุน ุฃุฎุฏ ุฎุตูˆุตูŠู‘ุชู†ุง ุจุนูŠู† ุงู„ุงุนุชุจุงุฑุŒ
08:35
because we're not all willing to participate in "market research,"
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ู„ุฃู†ู†ุง ู„ุณู†ุง ุฌู…ูŠุนุงู‹ ู…ุณุชุนุฏูŠู† ู„ู„ู…ุดุงุฑูƒุฉ ููŠ "ุฃุจุญุงุซ ุงู„ุณูˆู‚"
08:38
just because a device we bought has a Wi-Fi connection.
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ู„ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู†ู‘ ุฌู‡ุงุฒู‹ุง ุงุดุชุฑูŠู†ุงู‡ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ุงุชู‘ุตุงู„ ูˆุงูŠ ูุงูŠ.
08:42
And I have to tell you,
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ูˆูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู‘ ุฃู† ุฃุฎุจุฑูƒู…ุŒ
08:43
even when you're aware, generally, this is happening,
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ุญุชู‰ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชูƒูˆู†ูˆู† ุนู„ู‰ ุนู„ู… ุนู…ูˆู…ุงู‹ ุจุฃู†ู‘ ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุญุฏุซุŒ
08:45
it's really easy to forget that normal household items are spying on you.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู‡ู„ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ู†ุณูŠุงู† ุฃู†ู‘ ุฃุฏูˆุงุช ู…ู†ุฒู„ูŠุฉ ุนุงุฏูŠุฉ ุชุชุฌุณู‘ุณ ุนู„ูŠูƒ.
08:50
It's easy to forget these things are watching you,
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู‡ู„ ู†ุณูŠุงู† ุฃู†ู‘ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุชุฑุงู‚ุจูƒ
08:53
because they don't look like cameras.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู„ุง ุชุจุฏูˆ ูƒุงู„ูƒุงู…ูŠุฑุงุช.
08:55
They could look like ...
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชุจุฏูˆ ู…ุซู„...
08:56
well, they could look like a dildo.
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ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชุจุฏูˆ ูƒู„ุนุจุฉ ุฌู†ุณูŠู‘ุฉ.
08:59
Thank you.
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ุดูƒุฑุงู‹ ู„ูƒู….
09:00
(Applause)
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(ุชุตููŠู‚)
ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน

ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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