Mary's Room: A philosophical thought experiment - Eleanor Nelsen

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譯者: Giulia Wu 審譯者: yue chen
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Imagine a brilliant neuroscientist named Mary.
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想像有一位叫做瑪麗的 傑出神經科學家
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Mary lives in a black and white room,
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她住在一間只有黑色和白色的屋子裡
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she only reads black and white books,
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只能閱讀黑白的書
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and her screens only display black and white.
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而且所有的螢幕也都是黑白的
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But even though she has never seen color, Mary is an expert in color vision
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但即使瑪麗從未看到過顏色
她卻是一個顏色視覺的專家
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and knows everything ever discovered about its physics and biology.
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色覺的物理和生理知識她都了解
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She knows how different wavelengths of light
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她知道光的不同波長
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stimulate three types of cone cells in the retina,
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如何刺激視網膜的三種視錐細胞
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and she knows how electrical signals
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也知道電子信號是如何
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travel down the optic nerve into the brain.
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沿著視神經進入大腦
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There, they create patterns of neural activity
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在那裡,它們引起神經活動
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that correspond to the millions of colors most humans can distinguish.
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產生人類所能分辨的數百萬種顏色
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Now imagine that one day,
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現在想像有那麼一天
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Mary's black and white screen malfunctions
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瑪麗的黑白電腦出現故障
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and an apple appears in color.
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一個彩色的蘋果出現在螢幕上
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For the first time,
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有史以來第一次
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she can experience something that she's known about for years.
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她真實地體驗到這些 她已經了解了很多年的事物
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Does she learn anything new?
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她能從中發現新的東西嗎?
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Is there anything about perceiving color that wasn't captured in all her knowledge?
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在她顏色感知的知識系統中 有什麼被遺漏了嗎?
01:10
Philosopher Frank Jackson proposed this thought experiment,
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1982 年,哲學家弗蘭克·傑克遜 (Frank Jackson) 提出了這個
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called Mary's room, in 1982.
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稱為「瑪麗的屋子」的思想實驗
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He argued that if Mary already knew all the physical facts about color vision,
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他主張,如果瑪麗已經知道 所有關於顏色視覺的物理事實
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and experiencing color still teaches her something new,
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而真實體驗顏色仍然能 教給她一些新的東西
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then mental states, like color perception,
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那麼,精神狀態,比如色彩感知
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can't be completely described by physical facts.
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就不能被物理事實完全地描述出來
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The Mary's room thought experiment
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「瑪麗的屋子」思想實驗
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describes what philosophers call the knowledge argument,
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被哲學家們稱為知識論證
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that there are non-physical properties and knowledge
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即,存在著非物理的特性與知識
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which can only be discovered through conscious experience.
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只能通過意識體驗來被發現
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The knowledge argument contradicts the theory of physicalism,
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知識論證與物理主義的理論相悖
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which says that everything, including mental states,
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物理主義認為包括 精神狀態在內的所有事物
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has a physical explanation.
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都能被物理解釋
01:53
To most people hearing Mary's story,
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大部分聽了這個故事的人
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it seems intuitively obvious that actually seeing color
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僅憑直覺就可判斷 真正看到顏色與學習它
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will be totally different than learning about it.
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明顯是完全不同的
02:03
Therefore, there must be some quality of color vision
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因此,顏色視覺肯定有一些
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that transcends its physical description.
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無法被物理學解釋的特性
02:09
The knowledge argument isn't just about color vision.
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知識論證不是只關於顏色視覺
02:12
Mary's room uses color vision to represent conscious experience.
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「瑪麗的屋子」實驗 是用顏色視覺來代表意識體驗
02:18
If physical science can't entirely explain color vision,
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如果物理科學 無法完全解釋顏色視覺
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then maybe it can't entirely explain other conscious experiences either.
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那麼也許它也不能完全 解釋其他的意識體驗
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For instance, we could know every physical detail
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例如,我們可以知道
某個人的大腦結構 功能等所有物理細節
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about the structure and function of someone else's brain,
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02:32
but still not understand what it feels like to be that person.
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但仍然無法明白 成為那個人是怎樣的體驗
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These ineffable experiences have properties called qualia,
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這個無法形容的體驗 有個被稱作「感受質」的屬性
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subjective qualities that you can't accurately describe or measure.
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感受質是個主觀質量 無法準確地描述或者衡量
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Qualia are unique to the person experiencing them,
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感受質對於每個體驗它的人來說 都是獨一無二的,
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like having an itch,
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像是發癢
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being in love,
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戀愛
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or feeling bored.
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或者感到無聊
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Physical facts can't completely explain mental states like this.
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物理事實不能完全解釋 這樣的精神狀態
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Philosophers interested in artificial intelligence
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對人工智能感興趣的哲學家
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have used the knowledge argument
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用這個知識論證推理出
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to theorize that recreating a physical state
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重建一個物質狀態
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won't necessarily recreate a corresponding mental state.
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不一定能重建出與之相關的精神狀態
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In other words,
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換句話說
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building a computer which mimicked the function of every single neuron
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一個模擬人類大腦的所有神經元功能
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of the human brain
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創造出的電腦
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won't necessarily create a conscious computerized brain.
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不一定是一個有意識的計算機腦
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Not all philosophers agree that the Mary's room experiment is useful.
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不是所有的哲學家 都認同「瑪麗的屋子」實驗
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Some argue that her extensive knowledge of color vision
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一些人主張 她對顏色視覺的廣泛智識
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would have allowed her to create the same mental state
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足夠使她產生相同的精神狀態
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produced by actually seeing the color.
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如同她真正地看到了顏色
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The screen malfunction wouldn't show her anything new.
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那個螢幕故障 導致的蘋果對她並不新鮮
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Others say that her knowledge was never complete in the first place
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另外一些人說 首先她的知識就不完整
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because it was based only on those physical facts
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因為她獲得的知識只是那些
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that can be conveyed in words.
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可以用語言來傳達的物理事實而已
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Years after he proposed it,
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在傑克遜提出知識論證幾年後
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Jackson actually reversed his own stance on his thought experiment.
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他自己推翻了他的立場
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He decided that even Mary's experience of seeing red
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他認為,瑪麗看到紅色這個體驗
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still does correspond to a measurable physical event in the brain,
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仍然源自於瑪麗的大腦裡 一個可測量的物理事件
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not unknowable qualia beyond physical explanation.
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並不是一個不能被 物理解釋的未知感受質
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But there still isn't a definitive answer
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但對於當瑪麗看到蘋果時
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to the question of whether Mary would learn anything new
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是否學到了新東西
至今仍然沒有一個確定的答案
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when she sees the apple.
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04:12
Could it be that there are fundamental limits to what we can know
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是不是不可能無限制地認知
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about something we can't experience?
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我們無法親身體驗的事物呢?
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And would this mean there are certain aspects of the universe
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那這是否意味著宇宙中有一些方面
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that lie permanently beyond our comprehension?
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是永遠存在於我們的理解力之外呢?
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Or will science and philosophy allow us to overcome our mind's limitations?
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科學與哲學又是否能使我們 克服這種思維的局限呢?
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