History vs. Christopher Columbus - Alex Gendler
歷史 vs. 克里斯多福‧哥倫布 - 亞利士‧詹德勒
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譯者: Harry Chen
審譯者: Peipei Xiang
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Many people in the United States
and Latin America
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許多在美國和拉丁美洲的人,
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have grown up celebrating the anniversary
of Christopher Columbus's voyage,
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從小就慶祝克里斯多福‧哥倫布
航行紀念日,
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but was he an intrepid explorer
who brought two worlds together
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不過他真的是一個打通兩個世界
的英勇探險家嗎?
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or a ruthless exploiter who brought
colonialism and slavery?
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還是只是一個帶來殖民主義以及奴隸制度
的殘暴的剝削者呢?
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And did he even discover America at all?
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甚至他真的發現了北美洲嗎?
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It's time to put Columbus on the stand
in History vs. Christopher Columbus.
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是時候把哥倫布放在審判台上
與歷史對簿公堂了。
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"Order, order in the court.
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「肅靜!肅靜!
等等,我今天應該是要上班的嗎?」
00:34
Wait, am I even supposed to
be at work today?"
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00:36
Cough
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(咳嗽聲)
00:37
"Yes, your Honor.
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「沒錯,法官大人
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From 1792, Columbus Day was celebrated
in many parts of the United States
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從1972年開始,
美國許多地方都慶祝哥倫布紀念日,
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on October 12th,
the actual anniversary date.
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確切地說,是10月12日。
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But although it was declared
an official holiday in 1934,
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不過雖然它在1934年
被宣布為官方假日,
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individual states aren't required
to observe it.
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各州並未被要求遵守,
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Only 23 states close public services,
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只有23個州暫停民眾服務,
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and more states are moving away
from it completely."
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並且越來越多的州開始徹底取消這個節日。」
01:01
Cough
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(咳嗽聲)
01:02
"What a pity.
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「多可惜呀! 在70年代我們甚至
把它改到了十月的第二個星期一,
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In the 70s, we even moved it to the
second Monday in October
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01:06
so people could get a nice
three-day weekend,
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如此一來大家可以獲得一個美好的三天週末,
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but I guess you folks
just hate celebrations."
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我猜你們這些人就是討厭慶祝吧。」
01:12
"Uh, what are we celebrating again?"
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「什麼?我們是要慶祝什麼?」
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"Come on, Your Honor,
we all learned it in school.
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「得了,法官大人。我們都在學校聽過,
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Christopher Columbus convinced the King
of Spain to send him on a mission
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克里斯多福‧哥倫布說服西班牙
國王派給他一個任務,
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to find a better trade route to India,
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找出一條到印度的更棒的貿易路線,
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not by going East over land
but sailing West around the globe.
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不是經過陸地往東行進,
而是繞著地球往西航行,
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Everyone said it was crazy because they
still thought the world was flat,
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大家都說那太荒謬了,
因為他們始終認為地球是平的,
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but he knew better.
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不過他比較懂啦!
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And when in 1492 he
sailed the ocean blue,
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當1942年他航越了大海,
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he found something better
than India:
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他發現了比印度還棒的地方:
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a whole new continent."
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整塊全新的大陸。」
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"What rubbish.
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「這是什麼瞎話?
01:42
First of all, educated people knew
the world was round since Aristotle.
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首先,大概從亞里斯多德開始,
受過教育的人都知道地球是圓的,
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Secondly, Columbus didn't
discover anything.
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其次,哥倫布根本沒發現任何東西,
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There were already people living here
for millennia.
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人們已經在那裡生活了數千年了。
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And he wasn't even
the first European to visit.
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而且他甚至不是第一個到的歐洲人,
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The Norse had settled Newfoundland
almost 500 years before."
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北歐海盜(維京人)差不多早500年前就
在紐芬蘭島定居了。」
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"You don't say, so how come we're not
all wearing those cow helmets?"
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「不會吧!那我們怎麼沒有全都
戴著那些牛角帽子呢?」
02:02
"Actually, they didn't really
wear those either."
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「實際上他們本來也沒怎麼戴那些東西。」
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Cough
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(咳嗽聲)
02:06
"Who cares what some Vikings did
way back when?
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「誰管那少數的維京人在
那麼早之前做了些什麼?
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Those settlements didn't last,
but Columbus's did.
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那些房舍並沒有存留下來,
但是哥倫布的卻是有留下來的,
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And the news he brought back to Europe
spread far and wide,
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而且他帶回歐洲的消息流傳四方,
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inspiring all the explorers and settlers
who came after.
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鼓舞了所有隨後的探險家和屯墾者,
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Without him, none of us
would be here today."
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沒有他就沒有今天的我們。」
02:23
"And because of him, millions of
Native Americans aren't here today.
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「也是因為他,好幾百萬的
美洲原住民今天不在這裡,
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Do you know what Columbus did
in the colonies he founded?
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你知道哥倫布對他所發現的
殖民地做了些什麼嗎?
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He took the very first
natives he met prisoner
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他把最先遇見的
原住民都變成了囚犯,
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and wrote in his journal about how easily
he could conquer and enslave all of them."
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而且在他的航海日誌裡寫到:他可以
如何輕易地征服以及奴役他們。」
02:40
"Oh, come on. Everyone was fighting each
other back then.
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「喔!拜託!以前那段日子
大家也都相互打來打去,
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Didn't the natives even tell Columbus
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原住民們不是還告訴了哥倫布有關
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about other tribes raiding
and taking captives?"
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其他部落的掠劫以及扣押人質情況嗎?」
「是沒錯,不過部落間的戰事
是零星而且有限的,
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"Yes, but tribal warfare
was sporadic and limited.
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02:52
It certainly didn't wipe out 90%
of the population."
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肯定沒有滅掉90%的人口。」
02:56
"Hmm. Why is celebrating this Columbus
so important to you, anyway?"
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「為什麼慶祝這個哥倫布日
對你們是這般重要呢?」
02:59
"Your Honor, Columbus's voyage
was an inspiration
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「法官大人,哥倫布的航程對
在歐洲日子艱困的人來說是一種鼓勵,
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to struggling people all across Europe,
symbolizing freedom and new beginnings.
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象徵著自由以及全新的開始,
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And his discovery gave our grandparents
and great-grandparents
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而且他的發現讓我們的祖父母、
曾祖父母有機會來到這邊,
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the chance to come here and build better
lives for their children.
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以及為他們的小孩創造更好的生活,
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Don't we deserve a hero to remind
everyone that our country
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難道我們不該有個英雄來提醒每個人
我們的國家是建立於
移民者們的艱苦打拼之上嗎?」
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was build on the struggles of immigrants?"
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03:22
"And what about the struggles
of Native Americans
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「那麼美洲原住民的艱苦又如何呢?
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who were nearly wiped out
and forced into reservations
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他們幾乎是被消滅殆盡、
被迫進入了保留區,
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and whose descendants still suffer from
poverty and discrimination?
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他們的後代仍然深受貧窮以及歧視之苦,
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How can you make a hero out of a man
who caused so much suffering?"
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你怎麼可以用造成了這麼多苦難
的人來當英雄呢?」
03:36
"That's history. You can't judge a guy
in the 15th century by modern standards.
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「那就是歷史,你不能用現代的
標準來衡量一個15世紀的傢伙,
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People back then even thought spreading
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那時候的人甚至認為
向全世界傳佈基督教和文明
是個天賦的責任。」
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Christianity and civilization
across the world was a moral duty."
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03:47
"Actually, he was pretty bad,
even by old standards.
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「事實上就算是用舊的標準來看,
他也是個非常惡劣的人,
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While governing Hispaniola, he tortured
and mutilated
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當他掌管伊斯帕尼奧拉島的時候,
他折磨和殘害那些沒有帶給他
足夠黃金的原住民、
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natives who didn't bring him enough gold
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and sold girls as young as nine into
sexual slavery,
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販賣小至9歲大的女孩成為性奴隸、
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and he was brutal even to the other
colonists he ruled,
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甚至對他所管轄的
殖民地開墾者他也是殘忍的,
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to the point that he was removed
from power and thrown in jail.
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殘忍到他最終被解除職務關進了監牢。
當傳教士巴托洛梅·德拉斯·卡薩斯
04:07
When the missionary,
Bartolomé de las Casas,
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visited the island, he wrote,
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來到那個島上,他寫道:
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'From 1494 to 1508,
over 3,000,000 people had perished
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「從1494年到1508年,
超過300萬人因為戰爭、
奴役和開礦丟了性命,
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from war, slavery and the mines. Who in
future generations will believe this?'"
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後人誰會相信有這些事呢?」
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"Well, I'm not sure I believe
those numbers."
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「我不太敢相信這些數字。」
04:26
"Say, aren't there other ways the holiday
is celebrated?"
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「哎呀!難道沒有其他
慶祝這個節日的方式嗎?」
04:29
"In some Latin American countries,
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「在一些拉丁美洲國家,
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they celebrate the same date under
different names, such as Día de la Raza.
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他們用不同的名字慶祝同一個日子,
像是「種族文化日」;
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In these places, it's more a celebration
of the native and mixed cultures
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在這些地方,更多的是慶祝
殖民後存留下來的本土的和交融文化。
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that survived through the colonial period.
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04:41
Some places in the U.S. have also
renamed the holiday,
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美國一些地方也把節日改名字了,
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as Native American Day
or Indigenous People's Day
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像是「美洲原住民日」或「原住民日」,
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and changed the celebrations accordingly."
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相應的也改變了慶祝方式。」
04:50
"So, why not just change the name
if it's such a problem?"
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「如果是這樣的話,改名字不就好了嗎?」
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"Because it's tradition.
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「因為這是傳統,
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Ordinary people need their heroes
and their founding myths.
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一般人需要英雄偶像
還有英雄們建立的神話,
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Can't we just keep celebrating
the way we've been doing for a century,
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難道我們就不能延續我們已經
奉行了一個世紀的慶祝方式,
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without having to delve into all this
serious research?
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而不要去探究這些嚴肅的調查嗎?
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It's not like anyone is actually
celebrating genocide."
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又不是大家真的在慶祝大屠殺似的。」
05:08
"Traditions change, and the way
we choose to keep them alive
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「傳統不是一成不變的,
我們讓傳統延續下去的方式
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says a lot about our values."
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表達了我們很多的價值觀。」
05:14
"Well, it looks like giving tired judges a
day off isn't one of those values, anyway."
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「不管怎樣,看起來給疲累的法官一天假
並不是其中的一種價值觀!」
05:21
Traditions and holidays
are important to all cultures,
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傳統以及節日對所有的
文化來說都很重要,
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but a hero in one era
may become a villain in the next
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但是隨著我們歷史知識的增長
以及我們價值觀的變化,
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as our historical knowledge expands
and our values evolve.
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一個時代的英雄偶像可能會
變成下一個時代的惡棍,
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And deciding what these
traditions should mean today
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決定這些傳統在今天的意義
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is a major part
of putting history on trial.
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是把歷史放上來做公斷的一個主要目的。
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