How to create a world where no one dies waiting for a transplant | Luhan Yang
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譯者: Lilian Chiu
審譯者: Yanyan Hong
00:12
Hi everyone.
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嗨,大家好。
00:14
I would like to introduce you to Laika.
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讓我向各位介紹萊卡。
00:17
To most of us, Laika is simply
a very cute pig.
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對大部分的人來說,
萊卡只是一隻非常可愛的豬。
00:22
However, to hundreds of thousands
of patients in need of a lifesaving organ
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然而,
對於數十萬名需要器官
來救命的病人來說,
00:29
Laika is a symbol of hope.
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萊卡是希望的象徵。
00:32
You see, ever since the 1970s,
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在七十年代,
00:36
when organ transplants
became a real option
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器官移植這個選項成真了,
00:39
for patients with kidney failure
and other organ diseases,
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腎臟衰竭和其他器官疾病的
病人都可以選擇它,
00:43
organ supply has been an issue.
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此後,器官供應便成了一個議題。
00:46
Over the last few decades,
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在過去幾十年間,
00:48
the issue only worsened as organ demand
has exponentially increased.
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器官需求以指數增加,
使這個議題變得更糟。
00:55
Currently in the US,
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目前,在美國,
00:57
there are close to 115,000 patients
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有接近 11 萬 5 千名病人
01:01
in need of a lifesaving organ transplant.
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需要組織移植來拯救他們的性命。
01:05
By the end of my talk,
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在我的演說結束時,
01:07
one more patient
will be added to this list.
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就會再有一位病人加入名單中。
01:12
Today, about 100 people
will get a new organ,
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今天,大約有 100 人
可以得到一個新器官,
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a chance to start their life anew,
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一個重新開始新生活的機會,
01:19
and yet by the end of today,
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但,在今天結束時,
01:22
20 others will die waiting.
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會有另外 20 個人
等不到器官而死。
01:26
The situation is heartbreaking
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這個情況讓人心碎,
01:28
for patients, for their families
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對病人、對他們的家人,
01:31
and for the doctors who want to do more.
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及對想要做更多的醫生
來說都是如此。
01:36
In some parts of the world,
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在世界上的某些地方,
01:37
the situation also becomes
a disturbing social issue.
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這個情況也變成了
令人不安的社會議題。
01:42
In Asia, for example,
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比如,在亞洲,
01:44
media outlets reported
that desperate patients
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媒體管道報導指出,
走投無路的病人
01:48
are obtaining organs
from the cruel black market.
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會從殘酷的黑市取得器官。
01:53
It is clear that a solution
is needed to this crisis.
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很明顯,這個危機
需要一個解決方案。
01:59
Human lives are at stake.
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人命關天。
02:03
As a biologist and a geneticist,
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身為生物學家和遺傳學家,
02:06
it has become my mission
to help solve this problem.
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協助解決這個問題成了我的使命。
02:10
Today, I am optimistic to say
that we are on our way there,
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今天,我能很樂觀地說,
我們正在朝那個目標邁進,
02:15
thanks to Laika.
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這要感謝萊卡。
02:17
Using gene editing technology,
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用基因編輯技術,
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it's now possible to exquisitely create
a human-transplantable organ
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現在已經有可能精緻地創造出
可以移植給人類的器官,
02:25
that can be safely grown in pigs.
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並讓它在安全地長在豬身上。
02:29
Before we jump into the incredible
science that makes it happen,
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在我們跳進去談
讓它成真的偉大科學之前,
02:34
let's have a better understanding
what xenotransplantation is.
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咱們先多了解一下
「異種器官移植」是什麼。
02:39
It's a process of transplanting
animal organs into humans.
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它是把動物組織移植到
人類身上的過程。
02:44
You may want to ask, why pig organs?
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你們可能會想問,
為什麼用豬的器官?
02:47
Because some pigs carry organs
with similar size and physiology
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因為有些豬本身的器官
和人類器官的大小
及生理機能都很類似。
02:52
to human organs.
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02:54
Over the last half a century,
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在過去半個世紀,
02:56
pioneers of transplantation
have tried hard to make it happen,
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移植領域的先鋒
非常努力地實現這個想法,
03:01
but with limited to no success.
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但成功有限,或甚至根本沒能成功。
03:05
Why is that?
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為什麼會這樣?
03:06
Two fundamental hurdles stood in the way.
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有兩個基本的阻礙。
03:10
First is a problem of rejection.
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第一,是排斥的問題。
03:13
When our immune system
sees a new organ as foreign,
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當我們的免疫系統
把新器官視為是外來物,
03:17
it will reject it.
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就會排斥它。
03:19
Second, and this one is specific
to the organs from the pig,
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第二,這是只有豬的器官
才會遇到的狀況,
03:24
every pig carries a virus
that is benign to the pig,
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每隻豬都帶有一種病毒,
這病毒對牠的健康有益,
03:29
but can be transmitted into humans.
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但可能會被傳給人類。
03:31
It is called the porcine
endogenous retrovirus (PERV),
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這種病毒叫豬內源性
反轉錄病毒(PERV),
03:37
and this virus has the potential
to cause a viral epidemic similar to HIV.
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這種病毒有可能會造成
類似愛滋病的病毒大流行。
03:44
Without an effective way
to address these issues,
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因為沒有有效的方式
來處理這些議題,
03:49
the field of xenotransplantation
has been on hold for more than one decade.
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異種器官移植的領域
停滯了超過十年的時間。
03:55
Little progress has been made, until now.
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到目前為止,進展都相當少。
04:01
Let me share with you
how I got here today with Laika.
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讓我分享一下,我和萊卡的故事
是怎麼今天來到這裡的。
04:06
My journey started
from Emei Mountain in China.
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我的旅程始於中國的峨眉山。
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That is the place well described
in a lot of legendary stories,
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許多傳奇故事都對這座山
做了很好的描述,
04:14
like the "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon."
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比如《臥虎藏龍》。
04:17
That is the place I call home.
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那是我稱為家的地方。
04:20
Growing up in the mountain,
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我在山中長大,
04:22
I started to have
a strong connection with nature.
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我開始和大自然有強烈的連結。
04:26
This is me when I was seven years old
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這是我七歲的時候,
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standing in front
of an ancient Buddhist temple
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站在一座古老的佛教寺廟前,
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with a monkey on my shoulder.
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肩上有一隻猴子。
04:35
I still vividly remember
how my friends and I
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我仍然能很鮮明地記得
我和我的朋友
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would toss peanuts around
to distract the monkeys
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如何向周圍丟花生,
來引開猴子的注意力,
04:42
so that we could cross
to hike through the valley.
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這樣我們才能通過,去山谷中健行。
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I love nature.
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我愛大自然。
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When it was time
to choose a field of study,
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在要選擇研讀領域的時候,
04:50
I chose to study biology
at Peking University in Beijing.
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我選擇在北京大學研讀生物。
04:55
However, the more I learned,
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然而我學得越多,就有越多的問題。
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the more questions I had.
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05:00
How could our genetic makeup
be so similar to animals
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怎麼可能我們的基因構造
和動物如此相似,
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and yet we look so different?
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外表上卻差這麼多?
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How is our immune system capable
of fighting off so many pathogens
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為什麼我們的免疫系統
能夠抵抗這麼多病原體,
05:12
but smart enough not to attack ourselves.
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卻聰明到不會攻擊我們自身?
05:16
Questions like this tormented me.
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像這樣的問題讓我很煩擾。
05:19
I know it sounds nerdy,
but you know I'm a scientist.
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我知道這樣聽起來很宅,
但你們知道我是個科學家。
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After college, I decided
I didn't want to just ask the questions,
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大學之後,我決定
我不想要只是問問題,
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I wanted to answer them, so I did.
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我想要回答問題,
我也的確就這麼做了。
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In 2008, I was lucky enough to be accepted
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2008 年,我很幸運,
被哈佛大學的博士班接受,
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into the PhD program at Harvard University
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and worked with Dr. George Church.
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跟著喬治丘奇博士研究。
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While working in Church's lab,
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在丘奇的實驗室中工作時,
05:45
I started to learn and experiment
with the genetic makeup of mammals.
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我開始學習和實驗
哺乳動物的基因構造。
05:51
Among all the experiments,
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在所有的實驗中,
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one particular one
took me closer to Laika.
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有一項實驗特別讓我更靠近萊卡。
05:57
In 2013, my colleagues and I
made changes in a human cell
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2013 年,我和同事
改造了人類的細胞,
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using a tool you may have heard about
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我們用的工具各位可能有聽過,
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called CRISPR.
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叫 CRISPR。
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We were one of the first two groups
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最早提出成功使用這種工具
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to report the successful use
of such a tool in changing our DNA.
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改變人類 DNA 的兩個團隊,
其中一個就是我們。
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It was an exciting moment
in scientific discovery.
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那是科學發現的一個興奮時刻。
06:20
The gene-editing tool CRISPR
has two components.
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CRISPR 是種基因編輯工具,
它有兩個元件。
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It has a scissor called the enzyme CRISPR
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它有一把剪刀,
叫做酵素 CRISPR,
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and what is called a guide RNA.
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還有所謂的嚮導 RNA。
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Think about it as genetic scissors
with a microscope.
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把它想成是有顯微鏡的基因剪刀。
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The microscope is a guide RNA,
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顯微鏡是一個嚮導 RNA,
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which brings the scissors
to the place we want to cut
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能把剪刀帶到我們想要剪的地方,
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and says, "Here it is,"
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然後說「就是這裡」,
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and the enzyme CRISPR just cuts
and repairs the DNA in the way we want.
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接著酵素 CRISPR 就會剪下去,
並以我們希望的方式
來修復該 DNA。
06:51
Shortly after we reported our study,
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在我們提出了我們的
研究之後沒多久,
06:54
physicians at Mass General Hospital
were intrigued by the medical applications
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麻省總醫院的醫師對於我們的研究
在醫療上的應用很感興趣。
07:00
of our research.
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07:02
They reached out to us,
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他們跟我們聯絡,
07:04
and together, we began to see
the potential to use CRISPR
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我們合作之後,開始發現
是有可能使用 CRISPR
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to solve the organ shortage crisis.
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來解決器官短缺的危機。
07:11
How do we do it?
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我們要如何做到?
07:13
It is simple, yet very complex.
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很簡單,卻也很複雜。
07:18
We started by making changes
in a pig's cell to make it virus-free
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我們開始改變豬的細胞,
讓它變成沒有病毒,
且和人類免疫系統能夠相容。
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and human-immune-compatible.
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07:26
The nucleus of that cell
is then implanted into a pig egg
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接著,把那細胞核
植入豬的卵細胞中,
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and allowed to divide into an embryo.
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讓它分裂成胚胎。
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The resulting embryo is then placed
into the uterus of a surrogate mother
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接著把產生出的胚胎
放到代理孕母的子宮中,
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and allowed to divide into a pig.
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讓它分裂成一隻豬。
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Basically, it's a process of cloning.
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基本上,它是一個複製的過程。
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The piglet then carries organs
whose genetic makeup
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這些器官接著就會生長在小豬身上,
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hopefully wouldn't be rejected
by the human immune system.
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希望它們的基因構造不會
被人類免疫系統給排斥。
07:54
In 2015, our team decided to tackle
the viral transmission problem first.
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2015 年,我們的團隊決定
先處理病毒傳播的問題。
08:01
We wanted to take out
all 62 copies of the PERV virus
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我們想要從豬的基因組當中取出
所有 62 個 PERV 病毒的複製品,
08:07
from the pig genome,
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08:10
but at the time,
it was nearly mission impossible.
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但在當時,那幾乎是不可能的任務。
08:14
Even with CRISPR,
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即使有 CRISPR,
08:15
we could only do one or two
modifications within a cell.
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我們也只能在一個細胞中
做一或兩種修改。
08:20
The record for number of modifications
we can do in a particular cell was five.
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在一個細胞中,我們所能達到的
最高修改數量記錄是五。
08:27
We had to increase the throughput
by more than tenfold to achieve that.
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我們得要將總處理能力
增加十倍以上才能達成目標。
08:33
With very careful design
and hundreds of trials,
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經過非常小心的設計
和數百次的試驗,
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we successfully took out all the virus,
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我們成功取出了全部病毒,
08:40
broke the record.
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打破了記錄。
08:41
More importantly, our studies showed
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更重要的是,我們的研究顯示,
08:44
that we could eliminate
the possibility of this dangerous virus
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我們可以消除這種危險病毒
傳給人類的可能性。
08:49
being transmitted into humans.
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08:53
Last year, with a modified cell
and cloning technology,
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去年,用修改過的細胞
以及複製技術,
08:57
our startup, eGenesis, produced Laika,
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我們的新創公司
eGenesis 產出了萊卡,
09:02
the first pig of its kind
born without PERV.
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牠是第一隻生出來
就沒有 PERV 的豬。
09:07
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
09:11
Laika represents the first critical step
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萊卡代表的是關鍵的第一步,
09:15
in establishing safe xenotransplantation.
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朝向建立安全異種器官移植邁進。
09:19
It is also a platform
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牠也是個平台,
09:20
that we can do further
genetic modification on
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我們可以在上面
做進一步的基因修改,
09:23
to solve the immunology problem.
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來解決免疫學問題。
09:26
Since then, we have created
more than 30 pigs without PERV,
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從那之後,我們已經創造出了
超過 30 隻沒有 PERV 的豬,
09:31
and they may be the most advanced
geno-modified animal living on earth.
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牠們可能是地球上
最先進的基因改造動物。
09:38
We named Laika after the Soviet dog
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萊卡這個名字是取自第一隻
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who was the first animal
to orbit the earth.
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進入環繞地球軌道的蘇聯太空犬。
09:45
We hope Laika and her siblings
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我們希望萊卡和牠的手足們
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can lead us into a new frontier
of science and medicine.
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能領導我們進入
科學和醫學的新領域。
09:55
Imagine a world where patients
who suffer from liver failure
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想像一個世界,
在那裡,肝衰竭的病人
10:00
can be saved with a new liver
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可以得到新的肝,因而得救,
10:03
without having to wait for a donation
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不需要等待捐贈,
也不用等待另一個人死亡。
10:06
or another human to die.
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10:09
Imagine a world where people with diabetes
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想像一個世界,
在那裡,有糖尿病的人
10:13
do not have to rely
on insulin after every meal
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不需要仰賴每餐後的胰島素,
10:17
because we can provide them
with good pancreatic cells
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因為我們能夠提供他們
好的胰臟細胞,
10:21
that can produce insulin on their own.
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那些細胞自己就可以產生胰島素。
10:24
And imagine a world
where patients with kidney failure
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想像一個世界,
在那裡,腎臟衰竭的病人,
10:29
do not have to face
the burden of dialysis.
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不需要面臨洗腎的沉重負擔。
10:34
We are striving to create that world,
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我們在努力創造那樣的世界,
10:38
a world without organ shortage.
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沒有器官短缺的世界。
10:41
We finally have the tool
to tackle the problem
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我們終於有了一項工具
可以處理這個問題,
10:45
we could never tackle before,
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這是以前完全辦不到的,
10:47
and Laika is just
the beginning of our journey.
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萊卡只是我們旅程的開端。
10:52
We have to be very humble
in front of nature,
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在大自然面前,我們得要非常謙虛,
10:55
because there are more issues
to be addressed,
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因為還有更多議題
需要處理,包括免疫學,
10:58
including immunology
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10:59
and things we couldn't even
anticipate at this point.
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以及我們在這個時點,
我們甚至還無法預期的議題。
11:04
However, it is our responsibility
to translate the cutting-edge science
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然而,我們有責任
要將這尖端科學轉變為醫學,
11:10
into medicine to save the lives
of all the patients who are waiting.
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來拯救所有在等待的病人的性命。
11:17
Thank you very much.
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非常謝謝。
11:18
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
11:29
Chris Anderson: I mean, Luhan,
this is extraordinary work here.
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克里斯安德森:璐菡,
這是非常了不起的研究。
11:33
Come forward.
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請上前來。
11:35
So what's the next steps here?
You've got rid of the virus.
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接下來要做的是什麼?
你已經解決了病毒問題。
11:40
The next steps involve
trying to get to the point
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接下來要做的是
要試著讓人體不排斥移植。
11:42
where a human body
won't reject a transplant.
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11:46
What's involved in solving that?
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要解決這問題,會牽涉到什麼?
11:49
Luhan Yang: It's a very
complicated process.
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楊:這是個非常複雜的過程。
11:51
So we need to take out
the antigen of the pigs.
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所以我們得要從豬身上取出抗原。
11:55
In addition, we can learn
a lot from cancer.
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此外,我們也從癌症學到很多。
11:59
How can cancer invade
or circumvent our immune system
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癌症如何能侵入或規避
我們的免疫系統?
12:03
so that we can utilize the trick of cancer
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我們可能學癌症的技巧,
12:08
and implement that on the pig organ
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把它用在豬的器官上,
12:10
to fool our immune system
to not attack the organ.
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來愚弄我們的免疫系統,
讓它不去攻擊移植的器官。
12:15
CA: When would you estimate,
when do you hope
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克:依你估計,你希望
12:19
that the first successful
transplant would happen?
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第一次成功移值會在何時發生?
12:23
LY: It would be irresponsible for me
to give you any number.
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楊:我無法給你任何數字,
那是不負責任的行為。
12:28
CA: We're at TED.
We're always irresponsible.
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克:我們在 TED。
我們總是不負責任。
12:30
LY: But we are working day and night
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楊:但我們日以繼夜地在努力,
試著為病人實現這個夢。
12:32
trying to make this happen
for the patients.
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12:35
CA: So not even, you won't say
that you think it could happen
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克:所以,你甚至
不能說你認為可能會在
12:38
within a decade or within
five years or something?
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十年或是五年之類的期間發生嗎?
12:40
LY: For sure we hope it happens
within one decade.
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楊:當然我們會希望
能在十年內實現。
12:44
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
12:46
CA: So there's a lot of people here
who would be very, very excited at that,
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克:這裡有很多人
對此會感到非常興奮,
12:49
the potential is extraordinary.
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這潛力是非常不凡的。
12:51
There will be some other
people here who are going,
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這裡也會有一些其他的人說:
「那隻豬太可愛了。
12:53
"That pig is too cute.
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12:54
Humans shouldn't be exploiting
something so cute for our benefit."
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人類不應該利用那麼可愛的生物
來謀求自己的利益。」
12:59
Do you have any response to that?
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你對這個問題有什麼要回應的嗎?
13:03
LY: Yeah, sure.
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楊:有,當然。
13:04
So imagine one pig
can save eight people's lives.
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想像一下,一隻豬能夠
拯救八個人的性命。
13:09
In addition, similar to human donation,
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此外,和人類捐贈很類似,
13:12
if we only harvest
one kidney from the pig,
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如果我們只從豬身上
取得一個腎臟,
13:15
the pig can still be alive,
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牠仍然能存活,
13:17
so we are very mindful about the issues,
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我們對於這些議題非常小心謹慎,
13:21
but I think our goal is just to address
the unmet medical need
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但我認為我們的目標只是
要處理尚未滿足的醫療需求,
13:25
for those patients and their families.
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為了那些病人和他們的家人。
13:28
CA: Plus, no one can say that to you
if they eat bacon, right?
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克:此外,吃培根的人
也不能對你說那種話,對吧?
13:32
LY: That's a good point.
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楊:說得有理。
13:33
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
13:35
CA: Luhan, thank you so much.
LY: Thank you so much.
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克:璐菡,非常感謝。
楊:非常感謝。
13:37
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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