Beware, fellow plutocrats, the pitchforks are coming | Nick Hanauer
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譯者: Adrienne Lin
審譯者: Jessica Chang
00:13
You probably don't know me,
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你們大概不知道我是誰。
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but I am one of those .01 percenters
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我就是你們聽過,或者讀過的,
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that you hear about and read about,
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那百分之零點一的族群之一。
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and I am by any reasonable definition a plutocrat.
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不管用任何標準來看,
我都是個超級富豪。
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And tonight, what I would like to do is speak directly
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而今晚,我要與其他像我這樣的超級富豪,
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to other plutocrats, to my people,
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直接對話。
00:30
because it feels like it's time for us all
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因為我真的覺得,
00:33
to have a chat.
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該是我們好好聊一聊的時候了。
00:35
Like most plutocrats, I too am a proud
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就像大多數的超級富豪,我也是個驕傲、
00:37
and unapologetic capitalist.
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並且理直氣壯的資本主義者。
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I have founded, cofounded or funded
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我創立、與人合資或者投入資助的公司,
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over 30 companies across a range of industries.
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超過三十個以上,並且橫跨各種產業。
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I was the first non-family investor in Amazon.com.
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我是亞馬遜網站的第一個非家族投資人,
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I cofounded a company called aQuantive
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我投資成立了一家公司叫 aQuantive,
00:53
that we sold to Microsoft for 6.4 billion dollars.
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以64億美金被微軟收購。
00:57
My friends and I, we own a bank.
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我和我的朋友們還擁有一個銀行,
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I tell you this — (Laughter) —
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我之所以告訴你這些,(笑聲)
01:02
unbelievable, right?
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不可思議,對吧?
01:04
I tell you this to show
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我之所以告訴你這些,
01:07
that my life is like most plutocrats.
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是為了表達,我的生活
就跟大多超級富豪一樣。
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I have a broad perspective on capitalism
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對於資本主要和商業行為,
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and business,
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我有深廣的看法,
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and I have been rewarded obscenely for that
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也因此我在財務上有巨大的收穫。
01:19
with a life that most of you all
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過著你們無法想像的、
01:21
can't even imagine:
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奢華的生活。
01:23
multiple homes, a yacht, my own plane,
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我擁有多棟房產、一台遊艇、私人飛機,
01:26
etc., etc., etc.
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等等等等。
01:30
But let's be honest: I am not the
smartest person you've ever met.
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但是老實說,我不是你見過最聰明的人,
01:33
I am certainly not the hardest working.
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也絕對不是最努力的人。
01:35
I was a mediocre student.
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學生時代我的成績中等;
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I'm not technical at all.
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關於技術方面我不是專家;
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I can't write a word of code.
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我也不會寫程式;
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Truly, my success is the consequence
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說真的,我的成功來自於
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of spectacular luck,
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天大的運氣,
01:47
of birth, of circumstance and of timing.
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在天時、地利、人合上的運氣。
01:52
But I am actually pretty good at a couple of things.
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不過有幾件事情我的確挺在行的。
01:56
One, I have an unusually high tolerance for risk,
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第一,對於風險我有異於常人的容忍度。
02:01
and the other is I have a good sense,
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第二就是我很有“sense”。
02:03
a good intuition about what will happen in the future,
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這是一種對於未來的直覺。
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and I think that that intuition about the future
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而且我認為這種對於未來的直覺,
02:09
is the essence of good entrepreneurship.
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是成功創業的精隨。
02:13
So what do I see in our future today,
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所以,對於現今的未來,你問:
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you ask?
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我看見甚麼?
02:17
I see pitchforks,
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我看見了鐵耙子,
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as in angry mobs with pitchforks,
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暴怒的群眾手中的鐵耙子。
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because while people like us plutocrats
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因為正當我們這些超級富豪,
02:29
are living beyond the dreams of avarice,
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過著超越想像的奢華生活的同時,
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the other 99 percent of our fellow citizens
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其他 99% 的同胞們,
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are falling farther and farther behind.
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生活品質不斷、不斷的在衰落。
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In 1980, the top one percent of Americans
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在一九八零年,最頂層1%的美國人,
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shared about eight percent of national [income],
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擁有全美國8%的總收入。
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while the bottom 50 percent of Americans
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在這同時,最基層的50%的美國人,
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shared 18 percent.
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擁有國家總收入的18%。
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Thirty years later, today, the top one percent
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三十年後的今天,最頂層的 1%,
02:52
shares over 20 percent of national [income],
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擁有國家總收入的20%。
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while the bottom 50 percent of Americans
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同時美國底層的50%國民,
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share 12 or 13.
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擁有12~13%。
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If the trend continues,
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假設這樣的趨勢持續下去,
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the top one percent will share
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那頂層的1%,
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over 30 percent of national [income]
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在另一個三十年後將會擁有
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in another 30 years,
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國家總收入的30%。
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while the bottom 50 percent of Americans
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而美國底層的50%國民,
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will share just six.
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僅有6%。
03:12
You see, the problem isn't that we have
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其實,我們面對的問題,
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some inequality.
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不僅僅是這些不平等;
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Some inequality is necessary
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為了維持資本民主高度作用,
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for a high-functioning capitalist democracy.
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某種程度的不平等是必要的。
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The problem is that inequality
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問題在於這些不平等,
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is at historic highs today
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正在處於歷史新高,
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and it's getting worse every day.
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而且日漸惡化。
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And if wealth, power, and income
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若是財富、勢力,和收入
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continue to concentrate
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都繼續集中
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at the very tippy top,
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在最頂層人的手中,
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our society will change
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我們的社會將會開始起變化。
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from a capitalist democracy
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從一個以資本主義為主的民主社會,
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to a neo-feudalist rentier society
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變成一個新封建、唯利主義的社會。
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like 18th-century France.
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就像18世紀的法國。
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That was France
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那是法國,
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before the revolution
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與手中拿著鐵耙子的暴民,
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and the mobs with the pitchforks.
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等著革命的樣子。
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So I have a message for my fellow plutocrats
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在此對其他的超級富豪
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and zillionaires
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其他的兆億富翁、
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and for anyone who lives
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以及其他所有
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in a gated bubble world:
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住在高級的泡泡世界的人,
我有話對你們說:
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Wake up.
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醒醒吧!
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Wake up. It cannot last.
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醒醒吧! 這樣的好景不會持續下去的。
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Because if we do not do something
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如果我們袖手旁觀,
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to fix the glaring economic inequities in our society,
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讓我們社會中的
經濟失衡繼續惡化,
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the pitchforks will come for us,
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這些鐵耙,有一天將會向我們刺來。
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for no free and open society can long sustain
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因為沒有任何自由開放的社會,可以容忍
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this kind of rising economic inequality.
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這種經濟上的不平等無限成長。
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It has never happened. There are no examples.
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歷史上從未發生過,沒有任何前例。
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You show me a highly unequal society,
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你提出任何一個極度不平等的社會,
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and I will show you a police state
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我就可以找到武裝起義,
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or an uprising.
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或者人民暴動的例子。
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The pitchforks will come for us
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鐵耙子遲早會向我們刺來,
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if we do not address this.
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若是我們不想辦法解決問題。
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It's not a matter of if, it's when.
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這不是“會不會發生”
而是“什麼時候發生”的問題。
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And it will be terrible when they come
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當鐵耙子真的刺來的時候,
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for everyone,
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大家都會遭殃。
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but particularly for people like us plutocrats.
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由是我們這些超級富豪。
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I know I must sound like some liberal do-gooder.
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我知道我聽起來很像個左派的熱心分子,
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I'm not. I'm not making a moral argument
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但我並不是。 我無意討論
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that economic inequality is wrong.
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經濟不平等在道德層面上的是非。
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What I am arguing is that rising economic inequality
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我認為經濟不平等的增長
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is stupid and ultimately self-defeating.
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是愚昧的,並且最終會導致自我毀滅。
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Rising inequality doesn't just increase our risks
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經濟不平等的增長,不單單只是
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from pitchforks,
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增加我們淪於鐵耙子之下的風險,
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but it's also terrible for business too.
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對於商業也毫無利益可言。
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So the model for us rich guys should be Henry Ford.
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我們這些有錢人,
應該以亨利.福特為榜樣。
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When Ford famously introduced the $5 day,
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福特成功推出“一天工資五美元”方案,
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which was twice the prevailing wage at the time,
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也就是那個年代普通工資的兩倍。
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he didn't just increase the productivity
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他不僅僅增加了
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of his factories,
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工廠的生產力,
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he converted exploited autoworkers who were poor
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他將飽受欺凌又貧窮的汽車廠工人,
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into a thriving middle class who could now afford
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搖身一變,成為了有實力的中產階級,
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to buy the products that they made.
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終於能夠購買他們親手製作的產品。
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Ford intuited what we now know is true,
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當年福特的直覺,成了今天的真理。
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that an economy is best understood as an ecosystem
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要理解經濟體,
可以把它想像成一個生態體系。
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and characterized by the same kinds
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並且跟大自然裡的生態體系,
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of feedback loops you find
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有著一樣的回饋環路。
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in a natural ecosystem,
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a feedback loop between customers and businesses.
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一種存在在買主與賣主之間的回饋環路。
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Raising wages increases demand,
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工資成長會帶動需求的成長,
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which increases hiring,
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需求成長會增加就業機會,
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which in turn increases wages
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進而更加刺激工資、
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and demand and profits,
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需求、 以及利潤的成長。
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and that virtuous cycle of increasing prosperity
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而這樣子增進繁榮的良性循環,
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is precisely what is missing
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正是我們現今
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from today's economic recovery.
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正慢慢復原的經濟裡所缺乏的。
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And this is why we need to put behind us
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這就是為什麼我們務必拋棄
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the trickle-down policies that so dominate
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深深影響雙方政治黨派的
“下滲經濟”政策,
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both political parties
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and embrace something I call middle-out economics.
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並且實行我所謂的“middle-out經濟”。
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Middle-out economics rejects
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Middle-out經濟學不認同
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the neoclassical economic idea
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新古典主義經濟學的主張,
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that economies are efficient, linear, mechanistic,
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認定經濟體是高效、 線性,並且機制化的,
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that they tend towards equilibrium and fairness,
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認定經濟體會自動趨向平衡與公正。
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and instead embraces the 21st-century idea
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反之, ,此主義提昌符合21世紀的思維,
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that economies are complex, adaptive,
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認為經濟體是複雜,有矯正能力,
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ecosystemic,
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像生態系統那樣,
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that they tend away from
equilibrium and toward inequality,
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不趨向平衡,反而趨向不平等。
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that they're not efficient at all
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並且一點也不有效率。
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but are effective if well managed.
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但是,在妥當的管理之下可以非常有效。
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This 21st-century perspective
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這個21世紀的新看法,
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allows you to clearly see that capitalism
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讓我們清楚的見識到資本主義
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does not work by [efficiently] allocating
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作用的方式,
並不是靠者有效分配資源。
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existing resources.
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It works by [efficiently] creating new solutions
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它的作用方式是經由
提供有效的新方式解決人類的問題。
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to human problems.
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The genius of capitalism
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資本主義巧妙的地方在於,
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is that it is an evolutionary solution-finding system.
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它本身是一個可以自我演化
而不斷找尋新方法的系統。
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It rewards people for solving
other people's problems.
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它鼓勵人們
去解決別人的問題。
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The difference between a poor society
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貧窮與富有的社會,
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and a rich society, obviously,
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有一個最大的差別,
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is the degree to which that society
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在於社會本身,透過生產的產品,
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has generated solutions in the form
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來解決民眾的民生問題的能力高低。
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of products for its citizens.
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The sum of the solutions
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社會中存在的這些,
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that we have in our society
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解決方案的總體所奠定的,
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really is our prosperity, and this explains
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是這個社會繁榮與否的基礎。這就是為什麼
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why companies like Google and Amazon
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像谷歌,或者Amazon、
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and Microsoft and Apple
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微軟、蘋果這類的公司,
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and the entrepreneurs who created those companies
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和成立這些公司的創業家
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have contributed so much
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對於我們國家的繁榮
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to our nation's prosperity.
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有了這麼大的貢獻。
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This 21st-century perspective
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這個21世紀的思維,
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also makes clear
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同時也闡明,
08:13
that what we think of as economic growth
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我們處理民生問題的效率,
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is best understood as
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跟經濟上的成長
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the rate at which we solve problems.
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是成正比的。
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But that rate is totally dependent upon
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但這種效率,
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how many problem solvers —
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完全取決於有多少人才、多元化、
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diverse, able problem solvers — we have,
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有能力的人才,來解決這些問題。
08:29
and thus how many of our fellow citizens
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並且有多少平均市民,
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actively participate,
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能同時以提供解決的人的姿態
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both as entrepreneurs who can offer solutions,
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主動參與 ,並且扮演
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and as customers who consume them.
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消費者的角色。
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But this maximizing participation thing
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但是提高這樣的參與度,
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doesn't happen by accident.
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並不會偶然的發生,
08:47
It doesn't happen by itself.
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它不會說發生就發生的,
08:49
It requires effort and investment,
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我們需要積極正視,並且投入資金。
08:53
which is why all
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這就是為甚麼
所有高度繁榮的資本主義民主國家
08:56
highly prosperous capitalist democracies
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08:59
are characterized by massive investments
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都有這個特點。那就是
都有大規模的投資,
專門針對中產階級的需要,
09:01
in the middle class and the infrastructure
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09:04
that they depend on.
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以及其需要的基本設施。
09:07
We plutocrats need to get this
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我們這些超級富豪,
09:09
trickle-down economics thing behind us,
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實在應該拋棄所謂“下滲經濟”,
09:12
this idea that the better we do,
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這種,只要我們受惠,
09:14
the better everyone else will do.
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其他人遲早也會受惠的心態。
09:16
It's not true. How could it be?
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這怎麼可能呢?這是完全錯誤的。
09:20
I earn 1,000 times the median wage,
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我的薪水相當於最低工資的一千倍,
09:24
but I do not buy 1,000 times as much stuff,
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但我並沒有多消費一千倍。
09:27
do I?
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是吧?
09:28
I actually bought two pairs of these pants,
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我是買了兩條這樣的褲子沒錯,
09:32
what my partner Mike calls
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我的合夥人 Mike 戲稱它為
09:34
my manager pants.
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“經理褲”。
09:35
I could have bought 2,000 pairs,
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事實上,這樣的褲子我可以買兩千條。
09:38
but what would I do with them? (Laughter)
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但我買兩千條褲子來,要幹嘛?(笑聲)
09:41
How many haircuts can I get?
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我能剪幾次頭髮,
09:44
How often can I go out to dinner?
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能去餐廳吃幾次飯?
09:48
No matter how wealthy a few plutocrats get,
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無論多有錢,我們這些
畢竟是少數的超級富豪。
09:52
we can never drive a great national economy.
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不可能光靠我們
來推動一個國家的經濟。
09:55
Only a thriving middle class can do that.
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只有一個國家蓬勃發展的
中產階級能為之。
10:01
There's nothing to be done,
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我的富豪朋友們可能會說,
10:03
my plutocrat friends might say.
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我們又能怎樣?
10:07
Henry Ford was in a different time.
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亨利.福特存在另一個時空,
10:10
Maybe we can't do some things.
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也許有些事情,我們是做不到。
10:12
Maybe we can do some things.
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但也有些事,也許我們可以。
10:15
June 19, 2013,
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2013年6月19號,
10:19
Bloomberg published an article I wrote called
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彭博刊出了我寫的一篇文章,題為
10:23
"The Capitalist’s Case for a $15 Minimum Wage."
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“資本主義企業家對於$15最低時薪的研究報告”
10:28
The good people at Forbes magazine,
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富比士雜誌的好朋友們,
10:31
among my biggest admirers,
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我最大的粉絲之一,
10:33
called it "Nick Hanauer's near-insane proposal."
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稱之為“尼克.漢豪爾幾近瘋狂的提議”。
10:37
And yet, just 350 days
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可是,在這文章
10:41
after that article was published,
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刊登後的350天之後,
10:43
Seattle's Mayor Ed Murray signed into law
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西雅圖市市長 Ed Murray 卻立法定案,
10:46
an ordinance raising the minimum wage in Seattle
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將西雅圖的最低薪資
10:50
to 15 dollars an hour,
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漲到一小時15美元。
10:52
more than double
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比當時聯邦的平均薪資
10:53
what the prevailing federal $7.25 rate is.
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一小時7.25美元還多兩倍有餘。
10:58
How did this happen,
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這是怎麼辦到的?
11:00
reasonable people might ask.
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正常人可能會這麼問。
11:02
It happened because a group of us
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這條法律得以立案,
是因為我們出來呼籲,
11:03
reminded the middle class
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11:05
that they are the source
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中產階級才是資本主義經濟發展、
11:06
of growth and prosperity in capitalist economies.
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繁榮的來源。
11:10
We reminded them that when
workers have more money,
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我們提醒了他們,
當工人口袋裡多了錢,
11:14
businesses have more customers,
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大眾商家就多了更多顧客,
11:15
and need more employees.
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同時就需要雇用更多員工。
11:17
We reminded them that when businesses
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我們提醒了他們,
11:20
pay workers a living wage,
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當商家付給工人薪資的同時,
11:23
taxpayers are relieved of the burden
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也消除了納稅人對於窮困族群的負擔,
11:25
of funding the poverty programs
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11:26
like food stamps and medical assistance
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像是食物券、醫療補給費、
11:29
and rent assistance
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和租房補助,
11:31
that those workers need.
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諸如此類低收入戶所需的補助。
11:33
We reminded them that low-wage workers
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我們提醒了他們 ,低收入工人
11:36
make terrible taxpayers,
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不擅長扮演納稅人的角色,
11:39
and that when you raise the minimum wage
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所以當你提高所有企業、商家的最低薪資,
11:41
for all businesses,
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11:43
all businesses benefit
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所有的企業、商家都會受益,
11:44
yet all can compete.
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並且足以進一步的互相競爭。
11:47
Now the orthodox reaction, of course,
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最傳統的反面看法是:
11:49
is raising the minimum wage costs jobs. Right?
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提高最低薪資,代表減少總體的工作機會。
11:53
Your politician's always echoing
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政客們總是打著“下滲經濟”的旗幟,
11:55
that trickle-down idea by saying things like,
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喊著
11:58
"Well, if you raise the price of employment,
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“看吧, 提高創造工作機會的成本,
12:00
guess what happens? You get less of it."
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結果會怎樣? 工作機會就變少了!” 的口號。
12:03
Are you sure?
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真的是這樣嗎?
12:06
Because there's some contravening evidence.
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證據顯示完全相反。
12:09
Since 1980, the wages of CEOs in our country
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從一九八零年開始,我們國家CEO的薪水
12:14
have gone from about 30 times the median wage
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比國民平均薪水高出三十倍,
12:16
to 500 times.
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上升到今天的五百倍。
12:19
That's raising the price of employment.
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這,才是提高創造工作機會的成本。
12:22
And yet, to my knowledge,
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再說,以我的了解,
12:25
I have never seen a company
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我還沒見過哪個公司,
12:27
outsource its CEO's job, automate their job,
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把他們CEO的工作給外包,或者自動化,
12:31
export the job to China.
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或是將工作機會移出到中國大陸。
12:33
In fact, we appear to be employing
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不但如此,跟以前比起來,
12:35
more CEOs and senior managers than ever before.
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我們似乎雇用越來越多的CEO跟高級主管,
12:38
So too for technology workers
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高科技員工
12:42
and financial services workers,
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和金融顧問也一樣,越來越多。
12:44
who earn multiples of the median wage
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他們的薪水也同樣是國民平均的幾倍之多。
12:47
and yet we employ more and more of them,
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我們卻仍然雇用越來越多這樣的人才。
12:49
so clearly you can raise the price of employment
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所以無庸置疑的,你絕對可以
提高創造工作機會的成本,
12:54
and get more of it.
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同時增加工作機會的數量。
12:56
I know that most people
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我知道大多數人,
12:58
think that the $15 minimum wage
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都認為15美元的最低時薪,
13:00
is this insane, risky economic experiment.
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是種瘋狂並且高風險的經濟學實驗。
13:04
We disagree.
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我們反對這樣的看法。
13:06
We believe that the $15 minimum wage
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我們認為15美元的最低時薪,
13:08
in Seattle
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在西雅圖,
13:09
is actually the continuation
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是一條合乎邏輯的經濟政策
13:11
of a logical economic policy.
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的延續。
13:14
It is allowing our city
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因為這條政策,我們的城市
13:16
to kick your city's ass.
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變得比你們城市優秀的多。
13:19
Because, you see,
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因為,
13:20
Washington state already has
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華盛頓州原本就有全美國
13:22
the highest minimum wage
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所有州裡最高的
13:24
of any state in the nation.
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最低工資。
13:25
We pay all workers $9.32,
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我們給所有工人 $9.32 的薪資,
13:28
which is almost 30 percent more
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差不多比聯邦最低薪資的$7.25,
13:29
than the federal minimum of 7.25,
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多了百分之三十。
13:32
but crucially, 427 percent more
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更重要的是, 比聯邦
"有小費員工"的最低薪資 $2.13
13:36
than the federal tipped minimum of 2.13.
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高了百分之427。
13:40
If trickle-down thinkers were right,
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如果下滲經濟支持者的想法是對的,
13:42
then Washington state should
have massive unemployment.
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那華盛頓州照理說應該會有
極高的失業率,
13:45
Seattle should be sliding into the ocean.
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西雅圖應該馬上要沉近海裡了。
13:48
And yet, Seattle
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但事實呢?
13:51
is the fastest-growing big city in the country.
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西雅圖是我們國家
發展的最快的大城市。
13:55
Washington state is generating small business jobs
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華盛頓州所產生的工作機會,
13:59
at a higher rate than any other major state
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比國內任何一個主要大州,
14:02
in the nation.
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都來的多。
14:03
The restaurant business in Seattle? Booming.
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西雅圖的餐飲業? 蓬勃發展。
14:07
Why? Because the fundamental law of capitalism is,
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為什麼?因為資本主義的基本法則就是,
14:12
when workers have more money,
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當工人們有更多錢,
14:13
businesses have more customers
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企業、商家就有顧客,
14:15
and need more workers.
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也就同時需要更多員工了。
14:17
When restaurants pay restaurant workers enough
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當餐廳業者給員工的工資
14:20
so that even they can afford to eat in restaurants,
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夠他們在工作的餐廳吃上一頓飯,
14:24
that's not bad for the restaurant business.
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這對餐廳的經營不是壞事,
14:27
That's good for it,
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儘管有些老闆不同意。
14:28
despite what some restaurateurs may tell you.
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這其實是件好事。
14:33
Is it more complicated than I'm making out?
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不過,事情實際上是不是
沒有我說得那麼簡單?
14:35
Of course it is.
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那是當然的。
14:36
There are a lot of dynamics at play.
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有許多不同的因素都會影響結果。
14:38
But can we please stop insisting
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但是我們能否停止這類的想法,
14:40
that if low-wage workers earn a little bit more,
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認為低收入的工人的工資多一點,
14:43
unemployment will skyrocket
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失業率就會衝破表。
14:44
and the economy will collapse?
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然後經濟就會崩潰?
14:46
There is no evidence for it.
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根本沒有證據支持這樣的說法。
14:48
The most insidious thing
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下滲經濟
14:50
about trickle-down economics
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其中一種說法,
14:51
is not the claim that if the rich get richer,
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"富者更富, 全體享福",
14:54
everyone is better off.
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還稱不上
14:55
It is the claim made by those who oppose
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最陰險的是那些
14:58
any increase in the minimum wage
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反對增加最低工資的人,
15:00
that if the poor get richer,
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宣稱窮人變得較富有,
15:02
that will be bad for the economy.
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對經濟是有害的,才是真正陰險。
15:04
This is nonsense.
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這簡直就是胡說。
15:06
So can we please dispense with this rhetoric
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我們是不是可以拋棄這類想法,
15:10
that says that rich guys like me
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認為像我這樣的有錢人,
15:12
and my plutocrat friends
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還有我的超級富豪朋友們,
15:15
made our country?
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是我們建立這個國家 一類的想法?
15:18
We plutocrats know,
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我們超級富豪其實都知道,
15:20
even if we don't like to admit it in public,
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即使我們不願在公開場合承認,
15:22
that if we had been born somewhere else,
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如果我們出生在別的地方,
15:24
not here in the United States,
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在美國以外的地方,
15:26
we might very well be just some dude standing barefoot
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我們很可能就是站在小路旁,
15:29
by the side of a dirt road selling fruit.
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打赤腳賣水果的人而已。
15:32
It's not that they don't have good
entrepreneurs in other places,
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我不是說,其他國家沒有創業精神跟習慣。
15:35
even very, very poor places.
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即使是最窮最窮的地方,都還是有。
15:37
It's just that that's all
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只是因為在那樣的經濟體系,
15:38
that those entrepreneurs' customers can afford.
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那裏的消費者,能買得起的,
就只是那樣成度的商品。
15:43
So here's an idea for a new kind of economics,
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今天,我要推薦一種新的經濟體系。
15:47
a new kind of politics
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一種新的政治體系。
15:49
that I call new capitalism.
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我稱之為新資本主義。
15:52
Let's acknowledge that capitalism
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我們必須承認,
15:54
beats the alternatives,
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資本主義比其他的經濟體系強多了。
15:56
but also that the more people we include,
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但是只有在我們接納更多人,
16:00
both as entrepreneurs and as customers,
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無論是創業者,或者消費者,
16:04
the better it works.
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它才會日益茁壯。
16:06
Let's by all means shrink the size of government,
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我們絕對應該縮減政府的干預,
16:10
but not by slashing the poverty programs,
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但不是透過削減貧窮補助福利的方法,
16:12
but by ensuring that workers are paid enough
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而是讓工人階級擁有充沛的薪資。
16:14
so that they actually don't need those programs.
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進而幫助他們擺脫對這些福利專案的需要,
16:18
Let's invest enough in the middle class
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讓我們增加給中產階級的投資,
16:21
to make our economy fairer and more inclusive,
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好讓我們的經濟更公平且具包容性,
16:24
and by fairer, more truly competitive,
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透過公平,而更有競爭力。
16:28
and by more truly competitive,
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透過真正的競爭力,
16:29
more able to generate the solutions
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更能提出有效的,
解決人類的問題的方法。
16:32
to human problems
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16:34
that are the true drivers of growth and prosperity.
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這就是走向經濟成長跟繁榮的道路。
16:39
Capitalism is the greatest social technology
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資本主義是迄今為止,
最好的社會技術,
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ever invented
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for creating prosperity in human societies,
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如果適當的執行的話,
能夠給人類的社會帶來繁榮。
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if it is well managed,
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but capitalism, because of the fundamental
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但是資本主義,由於是一種複雜並且
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multiplicative dynamics of complex systems,
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利於錢滾錢的系統,
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tends towards, inexorably, inequality,
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有時很殘忍的會傾向於社會不公、
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concentration and collapse.
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財富的集中,最終有可能以致於崩潰。
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The work of democracies
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民主體系必須做到的,
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is to maximize the inclusion of the many
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是盡可能的涵蓋多數人,
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in order to create prosperity,
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才能創造集體的繁榮,
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not to enable the few to accumulate money.
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而不是讓少數人累積財富。
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Government does create prosperity and growth,
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政府的確可以創造繁榮與經濟成長,
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by creating the conditions that allow
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透過提供給創業家跟他們的顧客,
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both entrepreneurs and their customers
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可以蓬勃發展
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to thrive.
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的環境。
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Balancing the power of capitalists like me
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像我這樣的資本家還有工人,
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and workers isn't bad for capitalism.
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平衡這兩者的力量
對資本主義不但不是壞事,
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It's essential to it.
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反倒是有必要的。
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Programs like a reasonable minimum wage,
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合理的最低時薪,
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affordable healthcare,
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還有實惠的醫療保健,
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paid sick leave,
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有薪病假,
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and the progressive taxation necessary
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依照收入提高稅收,
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to pay for the important infrastructure
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為著支付中產階級需要的基礎設施,
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necessary for the middle class like education, R and D,
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幫助中產階級建立在教育跟
研發方面的基礎設施,
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these are indispensable tools
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以上都是不可或缺的工具。
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shrewd capitalists should embrace
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是精明的資本家應該接受、
用來澆灌經濟成長的工具。
17:56
to drive growth, because no one benefits from it
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因為最大的受益者,
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like us.
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就是我們。
18:02
Many economists would have you believe
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多數的經濟學家會說,
18:04
that their field is an objective science.
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他們的學術是一門客觀的科學,
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I disagree, and I think that it is equally
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我不這麼認為。
我認為經濟學同時也是一種
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a tool that humans use
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to enforce and encode
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人類使用的工具,用來執行與制式化
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our social and moral preferences and prejudices
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我們在社會跟道德上的,關於地位與權力
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about status and power,
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這方面的偏好與偏見的工具。
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which is why plutocrats like me
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這就是為什麼像我這樣的超級富豪,
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have always needed to find persuasive stories
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常常需要找一些有力的故事,
18:27
to tell everyone else
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來說服所有的人,
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about why our relative positions
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說服他們相信,我們所佔的社會地位,
18:33
are morally righteous and good for everyone:
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在道德上是說得過去,
並且對所有人都有利的。
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like, we are indispensable, the job creators,
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我們是不可取代的、創造工作的人,
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and you are not;
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而你們不是。
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like, tax cuts for us create growth,
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給我們減稅,可以創造經濟成長。
18:47
but investments in you
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但投資在你們身上,
18:49
will balloon our debt
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會擴大我們的債務,
18:51
and bankrupt our great country;
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並且讓我們的國家破產。
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that we matter;
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我們很重要,
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that you don't.
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而你們不重要。
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For thousands of years, these stories were called
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幾千年來,這些故事被歸類為
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divine right.
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上天給予的權力。
19:02
Today, we have trickle-down economics.
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而現今的說法,就是下滲經濟學。
19:06
How obviously, transparently self-serving
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這套學說有多麼明顯、公開的
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all of this is.
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自私自利,
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We plutocrats need to see
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我們這些超級富豪必須認清,
19:14
that the United States of America made us,
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是美國成就了我們,
19:17
not the other way around;
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而不是我們成就了美國。
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that a thriving middle class is the source
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我們須認清,蓬勃發展的中產階級,
19:21
of prosperity in capitalist economies,
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是資本經濟的繁榮的來源,
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not a consequence of it.
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而不是它的結果。
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And we should never forget
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並且我們該永遠記得,
19:29
that even the best of us in
the worst of circumstances
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在最糟糕的環境裡,
最努力的人能達到的最好狀況,
19:33
are barefoot by the side of a dirt road selling fruit.
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也僅僅是光著腳在路邊賣水果。
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Fellow plutocrats, I think it may be time for us
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身為超級富豪的朋友們,我想是我們應該,
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to recommit to our country,
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重新對我們的國家許一個未來的時候了。
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to commit to a new kind of capitalism
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許一個,有新的資本主義的未來。
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which is both more inclusive and more effective,
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這樣的資本主義,更有包容性跟效率,
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a capitalism that will ensure
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這樣的資本主義,
19:52
that America's economy remains
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也確保
美國經濟
19:55
the most dynamic and prosperous in the world.
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保持在世界上是最活躍並且最繁榮的。
19:59
Let's secure the future for ourselves,
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讓我們為了我們自己確保一個未來
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our children and their children.
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也為了我們的下一代
還有他們的下一代。
20:04
Or alternatively, we could do nothing,
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或者,我們也可以甚麼都不做,
20:07
hide in our gated communities
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躲在我們的高級住宅區、
20:09
and private schools,
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或者私立學校裡,
20:12
enjoy our planes and yachts
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光顧著享受我們的私人飛機跟遊艇。
20:14
— they're fun —
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是很棒沒錯。
20:16
and wait for the pitchforks.
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但同時,我們只是靜候鐵耙子的到來。
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Thank you.
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謝謝。
20:19
(Applause)
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