Learning from dirty jobs | Mike Rowe

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譯者: Coco Shen 審譯者: Geoff Chen
"幹盡苦差事"的工作人員和我前往
00:17
The "Dirty Jobs" crew and I were called
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to a little town in Colorado, called Craig.
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科羅拉多州叫做”Craig“的小鎮
00:22
It's only a couple dozen square miles.
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它大概只有24平方英里,在洛磯山脈
00:23
It's in the Rockies.
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那天所要體驗的工作是“牧羊工人”
00:25
And the job in question was sheep rancher.
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00:27
My role on the show, for those of you who haven't seen it -- it's pretty simple.
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對那些還沒看過節目的人,我的角色很簡單
00:31
I'm an apprentice,
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在那些從事這些工作的人身邊做個學徒
00:32
and I work with the people who do the jobs in question.
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00:35
And my responsibilities are to simply try and keep up,
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做他們所做的
00:38
and give an honest account of what it's like to be these people
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讓人們瞭解這些人的工作和生活是什麼樣子的
00:41
for one day in their life.
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經歷他們一天的生活
00:43
The job in question: herding sheep.
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今天的工作是 - 牧羊。很好。
00:45
Great.
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00:46
We go to Craig and we check into a hotel,
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我們到了這個地方,住進我們的旅館
00:50
and I realize the next day
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我才發現,閹割
00:52
that castration is going to be an absolute part of this work.
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是明天工作中不可或缺的一部分
平時,我從來不會做任何準備
00:56
Normally, I never do any research at all.
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00:59
But this is a touchy subject, and I work for the Discovery Channel,
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但因為這是個敏感的問題,我又為探索頻道工作
01:02
and we want to portray accurately whatever it is we do.
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無論如何,我們都要力求真實
01:07
And we certainly want to do it with a lot of respect for the animals.
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在一種尊重動物的前提下
01:12
So I call the Humane Society and I say,
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我打電話給一個關注動物權益的機構
01:14
"Look, I'm going to be castrating some lambs. Can you tell me the deal?"
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我說“我要閹割一些羊,
你能告訴我那是怎麼回事嗎?”
01:17
And they're like, "Yeah, it's pretty straightforward."
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他們說“其實很容易。”
01:20
They use a band, basically, a rubber band, like this, only a little smaller.
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他們用一個圈 - 通常是一個橡皮圈,只是小一點
01:26
This one was actually around the playing cards
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我手上這個其實來自昨日我拿到的一些撲克牌……
01:28
I got yesterday --
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01:29
(Laughter)
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但它讓我有種似曾相識的感覺。
01:31
But it had a certain familiarity to it.
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01:33
And I said, "Well, what exactly is the process?"
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然後我說“所以,這過程到底是怎麼回事?”
01:36
And they said, "The band is applied to the tail, tightly.
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他們回答“先緊緊圈住尾巴,
01:39
And then another band is applied to the scrotum, tightly.
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另外一個緊緊圈住陰囊
01:43
Blood flow is slowly retarded;
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血液慢慢不流通
01:45
a week later the parts in question fall off.
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一個禮拜以後,就會自動掉下來了。”
01:47
"Great -- got it."
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“好耶!我懂了”
01:48
OK, I call the SPCA to confirm this.
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我打給愛護動物協會核對一下 - 他們證實了
01:51
They confirm it.
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01:52
I also call PETA just for fun,
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我玩笑性的打給善待動物組織 - 他們不喜歡,但他們也證實了
01:53
and they don't like it, but they confirm it.
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01:55
OK, that's basically how you do it.
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簡單來說,這就是大家公認的方法
01:57
So the next day I go out.
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隔天我出門工作
01:59
And I'm given a horse and we go get the lambs
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他們給了我一匹馬
02:01
and we take them to a pen that we built,
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然後我們帶羊去我們蓋的畜欄
02:03
and we go about the business of animal husbandry.
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開始動手做些畜牧的事
02:07
Melanie is the wife of Albert.
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梅洛妮是亞伯特的妻子
02:08
Albert is the shepherd in question.
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亞伯特是今天的主角 - 牧羊人
02:10
Melanie picks up the lamb, one hand on both legs on the right,
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梅洛妮抱起羊 - 用她的雙手
左手抓住兩腿,右腿也是
02:14
likewise on the left.
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02:15
Lamb goes on the post, she opens it up.
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羊到了指定的地方,她把腿拉開
沒問題。很好。
02:18
Alright. Great.
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02:19
Albert goes in, I follow Albert, the crew is around.
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亞伯特來了,我跟著他,攝影團隊在旁邊
02:21
I always watch the process done the first time before I try it.
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在我親自動手做之前,我總是先看流程
02:25
Being an apprentice, you know, you do that.
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就像學徒該做的那樣
02:27
Albert reaches in his pocket to pull out, you know, this black rubber band,
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亞伯特把手伸進他口袋,然後拿出,黑色的橡皮筋
02:31
but what comes out instead is a knife.
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結果他拿出的竟然是一把刀
02:34
And I'm like, "Hmm, that's not rubber at all," you know?
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我說:這可不是橡皮筋哪,大哥!
02:37
(Laughter)
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他把刀一下甩開,陽光從洛磯山上照過來
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And he kind of flicked it open in a way that caught the sun
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02:41
that was just coming over the Rockies, it was very --
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反射出一陣刀光,那實在是
02:43
(Laughter)
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02:45
It was ... it was impressive.
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實在令人難忘
02:48
In the space of about two seconds,
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差不多在兩秒鐘的時間裏,亞伯特拿著刀
02:49
Albert had the knife between the cartilage of the tail,
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在軟骨和尾巴間,就在羊屁股的旁邊
02:53
right next to the butt of the lamb,
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02:56
and very quickly, the tail was gone and in the bucket that I was holding.
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很快地,刀起尾落,尾巴已經掉在我手上的桶裏了
一秒後,在他的大拇指和變硬的食指間
03:00
A second later, with a big thumb and a well-calloused forefinger,
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03:03
he had the scrotum firmly in his grasp.
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他緊抓著羊陰囊
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And he pulled it toward him, like so,
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他把它拉到自己眼前
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and he took the knife and he put it on the tip.
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把刀抵在那尖端
03:10
"Now, you think you know what's coming, Michael,
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你以為你知道事情會怎樣,麥克,你根本無法想像
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You don't, OK?"
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03:14
(Laughter)
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03:15
He snips it, throws the tip over his shoulder,
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他割斷它,把那尖端扔到肩膀後
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and then grabs the scrotum and pushes it upward,
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抓住那陰囊往上推
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and then his head dips down, obscuring my view.
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然後他低下頭,擋住我的視線
03:24
But what I hear is a slurping sound,
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我只能聽到一種稀裏呼嚕的聲音
像從粘糊糊的牆上撕下巨大膠帶
03:27
and a noise that sounds like Velcro being yanked off a sticky wall,
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03:30
and I am not even kidding.
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我可是說真的
不然我們來看看畫面吧?
03:33
Can we roll the video?
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還是算了,我是開玩笑的
03:35
No, I'm kidding, we don't --
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03:36
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:38
I thought it best to talk in pictures.
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我想還是靠我繪聲繪影的敍述就夠了™
在那個時候,我做了一件我在節目上從來沒有做過的事,史無前例
03:41
I do something now I've never, ever done on a "Dirty Jobs" shoot, ever.
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03:45
I say, "Time out. Stop."
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我說“等等,暫停”
03:47
You guys know the show, we use take one; we don't do take two.
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看過節目的你們知道,我們通常一鏡到底,沒有暫停
03:50
There's no writing, there's no scripting, there's no nonsense.
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沒有本子,沒有安排,沒有做戲
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We don't fool around, we don't rehearse --
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我們不做假,也不排練
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we shoot what we get!
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拍完就完了!
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I said, "Stop. This is nuts."
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我說,“聽。這太瘋狂了。
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I mean --
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我說,拜託 -
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(Laughter)
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04:01
"This is crazy.
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(笑聲)
這真的太瘋狂了。
04:03
We can't do this."
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我們不能這樣。
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And Albert's like, "What?"
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亞伯特覺得很奇怪,問”怎麼了?“
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And I'm like, "I don't know what just happened,
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我回”我不知道剛剛發生什麼事,
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but there are testicles in this bucket,
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但現在有些睾丸在桶子裏,但我覺得不應該是這樣。“
04:10
and that's not how we do it."
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04:12
He said "Well, that's how we do it."
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他說”但是我們都是這麼做的。“
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I said, "Why would you do it this way?"
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我說”你為什麼會這樣做?“
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And before I even let him explain,
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在他開口解釋前
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I said, "I want to do it the right way, with the rubber bands."
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我說”我想用正確的方法,用橡皮筋。“
04:20
And he says, "Like the Humane Society?"
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他說”像那些動物保護人士嗎?“
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I said, "Yes, like the Humane Society.
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我說”對,像那些動物保護人士。“
04:24
Let's do something that doesn't make the lamb squeal and bleed.
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用一種羊不會尖叫流血的方法 -
這可是要在五大洲播放的,大哥!
04:28
We're on in five continents, dude!
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04:29
We're on twice a day on the Discovery -- we can't do this."
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我們一天在探索頻道播兩次啊!我們不能這樣做。”
他說,“那好吧。”
04:32
He says, "OK."
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04:33
He goes to his box and pulls out a bag of these little rubber bands.
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他走到盒子面前,然後拿出一袋小小的橡皮筋
梅洛妮挑了另一頭羊,把它壓在柱子上
04:37
Melanie picks up another lamb, puts it on the post,
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04:39
band goes on the tail, band goes on the scrotum.
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把橡皮筋圈在尾巴,橡皮筋圈在陰囊
04:42
Lamb goes on the ground, lamb takes two steps, falls down,
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羊回到地上,它走了兩步,跌倒了
爬起來,抖了抖
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gets up, shakes a little,
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04:48
takes another couple steps, falls down.
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再試著走了兩步,再跌倒
我想,這羊看起來一點都不好,一點也不
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I'm like, this is not a good sign for this lamb, at all.
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它站起來,走到角落去,渾身發抖
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Gets up, walks to the corner.
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04:56
It's quivering, and it lies down and it's in obvious distress.
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它躺下,看起來萬分痛苦
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And I'm looking at the lamb and I say, "Albert, how long?
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我看著羊,我問“亞伯特,它會這樣多久?
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When does he get up?"
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它何時才站得起來?"
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He's like, "A day?"
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他回答“一天。“
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I said, "A day! How long does it take them to fall off?"
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我說”一天!!這些東西多久才會掉下來?“
05:10
"A week."
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"一個禮拜。”
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Meanwhile, the lamb that he had just done his little procedure on
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這個時候,剛剛他動完小手術的那頭羊
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is, you know, he's just prancing around, bleeding stopped.
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已經開始四處跳動,血也止住了
它開始吃草,嬉戲
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He's, you know, nibbling on some grass, frolicking.
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05:24
And I was just so blown away at how completely wrong I was,
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我完全傻了。我無法相信
我有多麼大錯特錯,那當下
05:29
in that second.
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同時我也想到,有多少時候,我錯的更厲害
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And I was reminded how utterly wrong I am, so much of the time.
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05:35
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:36
And I was especially reminded
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尤其是,我突然想到我那天是多麼倒楣
05:38
of what a ridiculously short straw I had that day,
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05:41
because now I had to do what Albert had just done,
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因為現在我得去做亞伯特剛才完成的事
05:43
and there are like 100 of these lambs in the pen.
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畜欄裏大概有一百多隻羊
突然這整件事就像德國色情電影……
05:47
And suddenly, this whole thing's starting to feel like a German porno,
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and I'm like --
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我有點……
05:52
(Laughter)
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05:54
Melanie picks up the lamb, puts it on the post, opens it up.
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梅洛妮挑出一隻羊
把它壓在柱子上,拉開雙腿
05:58
Albert hands me the knife.
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亞伯特把刀交給我
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I go in, tail comes off.
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我下刀,尾巴掉了下來
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I go in, I grab the scrotum, tip comes off.
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我繼續,我抓著陰囊,尖端掉了下了
06:04
Albert instructs, "Push it way up there."
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亞伯特指導著,”把它推上去“
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I do.
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我推了。
06:07
"Push it further."
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”推遠點。“
06:09
I do.
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我這麼做了。
06:10
The testicles emerge. They look like thumbs, coming right at you.
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看起來像大拇指的睾丸在你眼前出現,正對著你
06:13
And he says, "Bite 'em.
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他說”咬它們
06:15
Just bite 'em off."
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把它們咬下來。”
06:17
(Laughter)
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我聽到他這麼說,我聽的再清楚不過了
06:18
And I heard him, I heard all the words --
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06:20
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
我想,我是 - 我是怎麼來到這裏的?!
06:25
Like, how did I get here?
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06:26
How did -- I mean --
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我是 - 你知道 - 我是說
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how did I get here?
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我究竟是怎麼來到這步田地的?
06:30
It's just -- it's one of those moments where the brain goes off on its own,
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(笑聲)
這就是那種,腦子開始不受控制,神遊太虛的時候
06:36
and suddenly, I'm standing there in the Rockies,
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我站在洛磯山脈中
06:39
and all I can think of is the Aristotelian definition of a tragedy.
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唯一能想到的是亞里斯多德對悲劇的定義
06:43
You know, Aristotle says a tragedy is that moment
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亞里斯多德說,悲劇
就發生在英雄和自己的真我面對面的時候。
06:47
when the hero comes face to face with his true identity.
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06:51
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:52
And I'm like, "What is this jacked-up metaphor?
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我想“這是哪門子亂七八糟的隱喻?
06:54
I don't like what I'm thinking right now."
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我討厭我現在這些想法。“
但我無法擺脫腦中這個想法
06:57
And I can't get this thought out of my head,
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也無法擺脫我眼前這個景象
06:59
and I can't get that vision out of my sight,
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07:01
so I did what I had to do.
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我只有做我當做的
07:03
I went in and I took them.
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我殺進去,拿下它們
07:05
I took them like this,
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我這樣拿下它們
07:07
and I yanked my head back.
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然後狠狠地把臉甩開
07:09
And I'm standing there with two testicles on my chin.
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我就站在那裏
臉上掛著兩個羊睾丸
07:13
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:15
And now I can't get -- I can't shake the metaphor.
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我就是無法 - 我無法甩開那個隱喻
07:18
I'm still in "Poetics," in Aristotle, and I'm thinking --
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我還在想亞里斯多德,想他那本”詩論“
我在想,突然,兩個辭就這樣靈光一現
07:22
out of nowhere, two terms come crashing into my head, that I hadn't heard
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兩個我從大學後就再沒有聽過,被古典學教授鑿在腦中的字
07:25
since my classics professor in college drilled them there.
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07:29
And they are "anagnorisis" and "peripeteia."
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它們是 anagnorisis 和 peripeteia
07:31
Anagnorisis and peripeteia.
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anagnorisis 和 peripeteia
Anagnorisis 是希臘文裏的”發現“
07:34
Anagnorisis is the Greek word for discovery.
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07:38
Literally, the transition from ignorance to knowledge is anagnorisis.
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字義上,從無知到有知的過程,就是 Anagnorisis
07:44
It's what our network does; it's what "Dirty Jobs" is.
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也就是探索頻道所做的
也就是“幹盡苦差事”所在做的
07:47
And I'm up to my neck in anagnorises every single day.
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這些發現每天都堆到了我的脖子這麼高
07:51
Great.
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很好。
另外一個字,peripeteia
07:53
The other word, peripeteia,
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07:55
that's the moment in the great tragedies --
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則是在大悲劇中的那一刻,你知道
08:00
Euripides and Sophocles.
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欧里庇得斯和索福克勒斯
08:02
That's the moment where Oedipus has his moment, where he suddenly realizes
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在<俄狄甫斯王>劇裏
他突然意識到那位美女
08:08
that hot chick he's been sleeping with and having babies with
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他同床共枕和生兒育女的 - 是他親娘。很好。
08:11
is his mother.
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08:12
That's peripety, or peripeteia.
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這就是轉折
或是 peripeteia
08:15
And this metaphor in my head --
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我腦中的這個隱喻
08:17
I've got anagnorisis and peripeteia on my chin --
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在我腮旁的”發現“和”轉折“
08:20
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
但我必須說,這真是很好的詞句
08:23
I've got to tell you, it's such a great device, though.
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08:25
When you start to look for peripeteia,
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但你開始找尋”轉折“
它們隨處可見
08:28
you find it everywhere.
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08:29
I mean, Bruce Willis in "The Sixth Sense," right?
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像布魯斯·威利在”靈異第六感“中
08:32
Spends the whole movie trying to help the little kid who sees dead people,
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整部電影都在幫助這個有陰陽眼的小孩
08:36
and then -- boom! -- "Oh, I'm dead."
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然後,砰!原來我死了 - 轉折
08:38
Peripeteia. You know?
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你知道吧?
08:39
It's crushing when the audience sees it the right way.
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在那一瞬間,所有觀眾都看明白了
08:42
Neo in "The Matrix," you know?
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像“駭客任務”中的尼歐
08:45
"Oh, I'm living in a computer program.
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哦,我竟然住在電腦程式裏,那真怪
08:47
That's weird."
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08:48
These discoveries that lead to sudden realizations.
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這些發現都讓我意識到一些事實
我已經做了,大概兩百個苦差事,我一天到晚都意識到一些新東西
08:52
And I've been having them, over 200 dirty jobs,
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08:55
I have them all the time, but that one --
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但這一項 - 這項驚心動魄,在我絲毫沒有思考準備的時候
08:57
that one drilled something home in a way that I just wasn't prepared for.
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正在我站在那裏的時候
09:02
And, as I stood there,
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09:04
looking at the happy lamb that I had just defiled --
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看著那只開心的羊,我剛處理過的
09:09
but it looked OK;
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它看起來還不錯
09:11
looking at that poor other little thing that I'd done it the right way on,
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再看看另一隻可憐的小東西,我本來可以正確處理的,
我突然想到
09:15
and I just was struck by --
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09:17
if I'm wrong about that,
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如果我在這件事上犯錯
09:21
and if I'm wrong so often, in a literal way,
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如果我這樣常犯錯,實際地說
09:24
what other peripatetic misconceptions might I be able to comment upon?
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我還能對其他那些錯誤觀念說什麼呢?
09:29
Because, look -- I'm not a social anthropologist,
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因為,雖然我不是個社會人類學家
但我有個朋友是
09:32
but I have a friend who is.
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09:33
And I talk to him.
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我和他聊
09:35
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:36
And he says, "Hey Mike, look.
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他說“嘿麥克
09:38
I don't know if your brain is interested in this sort of thing or not,
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我不知道你的腦子對這種事情有沒有興趣
09:42
but do you realize you've shot in every state?
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但 你有意識到你已經踏遍每一州了嗎?
09:44
You've worked in mining, you've worked in fishing,
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你在礦場裏幹過,你在漁業裏幹過
09:47
you've worked in steel, you've worked in every major industry.
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你幹過鐵工,你幾乎在所有主要的行業裏都幹過
09:51
You've had your back shoulder to shoulder with these guys
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你和這些傢伙們並肩共事
09:54
that our politicians are desperate to relate to every four years, right?"
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像那些政治人物們每四年就要來一下的那個樣子嘛,對吧?“
09:58
I can still see Hillary doing the shots of rye,
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我仿佛還看到希拉蕊和鐵工們
10:00
dribbling down her chin, with the steel workers.
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豪爽地喝著啤酒,從她下顎流下
這些人可是我每天在一起共事的人
10:03
I mean, these are the people that I work with every single day.
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10:06
"And if you have something to say about their thoughts, collectively,
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如果你想為他們喉舌,把他們當成一個群體來說些什麼
10:10
it might be time to think about it.
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現在是你好後想想的時候了
10:12
Because, dude, you know, four years."
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因為,你知道,這四年
10:16
So, that's in my head, testicles are on my chin,
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在我腦子裏,腮旁掛著睾丸
10:20
thoughts are bouncing around.
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腦中的想法晃蕩著
10:22
And, after that shoot, "Dirty Jobs" really didn't change,
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在那次拍攝後,”幹盡苦差事“基本上沒有改變
10:27
in terms of what the show is, but it changed for me, personally.
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這個節目沒有改變
但對我來說它改變了,我改變了
10:31
And now, when I talk about the show,
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現在,當我談到這個節目
10:33
I no longer just tell the story you heard and 190 like it.
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我不會再說那些人人認同的故事
我仍然會,但我開始談論其他那些我曾經誤解的事
10:39
I do, but I also start to talk about some of the other things
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10:42
I got wrong;
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其他那些對工作的想法
10:44
some of the other notions of work
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那些我曾經以為是神聖不可侵犯的
10:46
that I've just been assuming are sacrosanct,
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卻不是的
10:50
and they're not.
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10:51
People with dirty jobs are happier than you think.
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做這些工作的人比你想像的快樂很多
10:54
As a group, they're the happiest people I know.
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就一個群體來說,他們是我見過最快樂的人
我可不是要開始吹起口哨,唱起工會組曲
10:57
And I don't want to start whistling "Look for the Union Label,"
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或是其他那些歌頌快樂工人的狗屁
11:00
and all that happy-worker crap.
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11:01
I'm just telling you that these are balanced people
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我只是想說,這是一群和諧的人們,做著難以想像的工作
11:04
who do unthinkable work.
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我發誓,那些路邊撿屍塊的工人們一邊工作一邊吹口哨
11:05
Roadkill picker-uppers whistle while they work, I swear to God --
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我和他們在一起
11:08
I did it with them.
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11:09
They've got this amazing sort of symmetry to their life.
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他們的人生中有一種不可思議的平衡
11:13
And I see it over and over and over again.
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這是我一次又一次親眼所見的
11:16
So I started to wonder what would happen
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我開始想像如果我們開始挑戰
11:18
if we challenged some of these sacred cows?
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那些我們奉為絕對真理的
11:21
Follow your passion --
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追尋你的熱情 -
11:23
we've been talking about it here for the last 36 hours.
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我們過去36個小時在這裏一直談論到的
追尋熱情 - 這有什麼問題?
11:27
Follow your passion -- what could possibly be wrong with that?
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大概是我聽過最爛的建議
11:30
It's probably the worst advice I ever got.
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(笑聲)
11:32
(Laughter)
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追求夢想然後破產,對吧?
11:33
Follow your dreams and go broke, right?
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11:35
I mean, that's all I heard growing up.
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這些都是我們如雷貫耳的話
11:36
I didn't know what to do with my life,
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我不知道我該做什麼
11:38
but I was told if you follow your passion, it's going to work out.
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但別人總是告訴我,追尋你的熱情,一切都會順利的
11:41
I can give you 30 examples right now.
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我現在可以馬上給你三十個例子
11:43
Bob Combs, the pig farmer in Las Vegas
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Bob Combs,拉斯維加斯的養豬戶
11:45
who collects the uneaten scraps of food from the casinos
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他從賭場裏收集那些剩菜
11:48
and feeds them to his swine.
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然後把它們拿去喂豬
11:50
Why?
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為什麼?因為在我們剩餘的食物裏有太多蛋白質
11:51
Because there's so much protein in the stuff we don't eat,
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他的豬以兩倍的速度成長
11:54
his pigs grow at twice the normal speed, and he's one rich pig farmer.
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他是個富有的豬農
而且對環境有益
11:57
He's good for the environment,
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11:58
he spends his days doing this incredible service,
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他的所有時間都貢獻在這項了不起的服務上
他聞起來真糟,但願神祝福他
12:01
and he smells like hell, but God bless him.
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他過著很舒服的生活
12:03
He's making a great living.
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12:04
You ask him, "Did you follow your passion here?"
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如果你問他“你在這裏追尋你的熱情嗎?"
12:06
and he'd laugh at you.
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他會對你大笑。
12:08
The guy's worth -- he just got offered like 60 million dollars for his farm
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他的身價有 - 有人想用六千萬美金買下
12:12
and turned it down, outside of Vegas.
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他在拉斯維加斯週邊的農場,他拒絕了。
12:14
He didn't follow his passion.
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他沒有追尋他的熱情
12:16
He stepped back and he watched where everybody was going,
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他退一步,看著大家都朝哪個方向去
然後去了另一個方向
12:19
and he went the other way.
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這就是我一直反覆聽見的故事
12:21
And I hear that story over and over.
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12:23
Matt Freund, a dairy farmer in New Canaan, Connecticut,
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Matt Froind,一個康涅狄格州的奶農
12:26
who woke up one day and realized
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一天醒來,突然意識到他的牛產出的牛糞
12:28
the crap from his cows was worth more than their milk,
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比他們產出的牛奶值錢多了
12:31
if he could use it to make these biodegradable flowerpots.
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如果他能把它們做成生物所能分解的花盆
現在,他和沃爾瑪做生意
12:35
Now he's selling them to Walmart, right?
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跟隨他的熱情 - 拜託
12:38
Follow his passion? The guy's -- come on.
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12:41
So I started to look at passion,
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我開始仔細思考熱情
12:43
I started to look at efficiency vs. effectiveness.
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我開始思考效率和效果
12:47
As Tim talked about earlier, that's a huge distinction.
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如同 Tim 先前提到的,它們有很大的分別
我開始思考團體合作和決心
12:51
I started to look at teamwork and determination.
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12:53
And basically, all those platitudes they call "successories"
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那些有關成功的陳腔濫調
12:56
that hang with that schmaltzy art in boardrooms around the world right now,
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和那些矯情的藝術一起掛在全世界的會議室的東西
13:00
that stuff -- it's suddenly all been turned on its head.
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那些玩意兒 -
突然有點被沖昏頭了
13:05
Safety. Safety first is ...
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安全 - 安全第一
那些,職業安全與衛生署、善待動物組織,和動物權益組織
13:09
Going back to OSHA and PETA and the Humane Society:
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如果職業安全與衛生署錯了呢?
13:13
What if OSHA got it wrong?
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13:15
I mean -- this is heresy, what I'm about to say --
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我說的這完全是邪魔外道,當然
13:17
but what if it's really safety third?
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但如果不是安全第一,是安全第三呢?
13:20
Right?
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不是嗎?
13:21
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
13:23
No, I mean, really.
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我說真的
13:25
What I mean to say is:
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我要說的是,做這些瘋狂的工作時,我當然注重安全
13:27
I value my safety on these crazy jobs
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13:29
as much as the people that I'm working with,
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如同和我共事的那些人一樣
但是那些真正完成事情的人
13:32
but the ones who really get it done --
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13:34
they're not out there talking about safety first.
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他們不會在外面說:安全第一
他們知道還有其他更重要的
13:38
They know that other things come first --
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13:40
the business of doing the work comes first,
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”把工作做好“最重要
13:42
the business of getting it done.
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把工作完成。
13:44
And I'll never forget, up in the Bering Sea,
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我永遠不會忘記,在白令海那次,我在一部螃蟹船上
13:46
I was on a crab boat with the "Deadliest Catch" guys --
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和我第一季節目中共事過的一群致命勇士
13:49
which I also work on in the first season.
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13:51
We were about 100 miles off the coast of Russia:
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我們在俄羅斯海灣外一百英里處
13:54
50-foot seas, big waves, green water coming over the wheelhouse, right?
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海深五十英尺,巨浪滔滔,綠水潑近舵手室
我見過最危險的工作環境
13:59
Most hazardous environment I'd ever seen,
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14:01
and I was back with a guy, lashing the pots down.
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我和一個哥們兒在一起,把桶子掛下去
我離甲板40尺遠
14:04
So I'm 40 feet off the deck,
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14:06
which is like looking down at the top of your shoe, you know,
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感覺就像盯著自己的鞋尖
然後,就這樣在海上亂轉
14:09
and it's doing this in the ocean.
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14:10
Unspeakably dangerous.
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很難形容的危險狀態
14:11
I scamper down, I go into the wheelhouse
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我匆忙逃下,跑進舵手室
14:13
and I say, with some level of incredulity,
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我喊,帶著懷疑
”船長!職業安全條例!“
14:17
"Captain -- OSHA?"
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他回答”職業安全?看看海底!“
14:19
And he says, "OSHA? Ocean."
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14:21
And he points out there.
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然後他把手往外一指
14:23
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
那一刻,接下來他說的話不能在美國本土重複
14:26
But in that moment, what he said next can't be repeated in the Lower 48.
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14:31
It can't be repeated on any factory floor or any construction site.
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也不能在任何工廠或工地重複
但他望著我,他說”小夥子 -
14:35
But he looked at me and said, "Son," --
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他和我同歲,但他叫我小夥子,很好 -
14:37
he's my age, by the way, he calls me "son," I love that --
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14:39
he says, "Son, I'm the captain of a crab boat.
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他說“小夥子,我是螃蟹船的船長
14:41
My responsibility is not to get you home alive.
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我的職責不是讓你活著回家
14:44
My responsibility is to get you home rich."
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我的職責是讓你發財
14:46
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
14:48
You want to get home alive, that's on you."
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你想活著回去,那是你的事情
14:50
And for the rest of that day -- safety first.
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於是後來,安全第一
14:53
I mean, I was like --
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我就像這樣 ——
14:54
So, the idea that we create this sense of complacency
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我們創造了這個虛假的
這種自得自滿的情緒
15:01
when all we do is talk about somebody else's responsibility
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我們總是在談論他人的責任
15:05
as though it's our own, and vice versa.
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好像那是我們自己的,反之亦然
15:07
Anyhow, a whole lot of things.
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總之,很多很多事
15:09
I could talk at length about the many little distinctions we made
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我可以滔滔不絕地談論所有這些我們創造的小區別
15:12
and the endless list of ways that I got it wrong.
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還有我那些無止無盡的錯誤認知
但,最後
15:15
But what it all comes down to is this:
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我想跟你們分享我的結論
15:18
I've formed a theory,
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15:19
and I'm going to share it now in my remaining 2 minutes and 30 seconds.
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在我剩下的兩分三十秒
15:22
It goes like this:
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是這麼說的 ——
我們向工作宣戰
15:25
we've declared war on work, as a society -- all of us.
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這個社會,我們所有人
一個全民的內戰
15:30
It's a civil war.
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15:31
It's a cold war, really.
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或是冷戰,事實上
15:33
We didn't set out to do it
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我們沒有預備要這麼做
15:36
and we didn't twist our mustache in some Machiavellian way,
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也沒有馬基維利式地扭著我們的小鬍子
15:39
but we've done it.
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但我們這麼做了。
15:41
And we've waged this war on at least four fronts,
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我們在四個方向拉開戰線
15:44
certainly in Hollywood.
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其中絕對有好萊塢
15:46
The way we portray working people on TV --
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我們在電視上描繪工人的方式
15:48
it's laughable.
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是可笑的
15:50
If there's a plumber, he's 300 pounds
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一個水管工人,一定有三百磅重,還有個巨大的股溝,是吧
15:51
and he's got a giant butt crack, admit it.
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15:54
You see him all the time.
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你一定有看過這個畫面
15:55
That's what plumbers look like, right?
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那就是水管工的形象,對嗎?
15:57
We turn them into heroes, or we turn them into punch lines.
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我們塑造偶像,或是呼喊口號
電視的功能就是這樣
16:01
That's what TV does.
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16:02
We try hard on "Dirty Jobs" not to do that,
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在”幹盡苦差事“中我們儘量不這麼做
16:04
which is why I do the work and I don't cheat.
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這就是我做工不做戲的原因
我們在麥迪森大街也拉上了戰線
16:08
But, we've waged this war on Madison Avenue.
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16:11
So many of the commercials that come out there in the way of a message --
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那裏製作了這麼多的廣告
16:15
what's really being said?
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這些廣告都透露了什麼訊息?
16:17
"Your life would be better if you could work a little less,
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你的人生會更美好,如果你少工作一點
16:19
didn't have to work so hard, got home a little earlier,
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如果你不要工作的這麼辛苦,如果你可以早些回家
如果你能提早退休,如果你能提早下班
16:22
could retire a little faster, punch out a little sooner."
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這就是它們的資訊,反反復複播放
16:25
It's all in there, over and over, again and again.
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華盛頓特區 - 我甚至無法談論這些協定和法條
16:28
Washington?
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16:29
I can't even begin to talk about the deals and policies in place
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它們影響了就業機會的底線
16:32
that affect the bottom-line reality of the available jobs,
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16:35
because I don't really know; I just know that that's a front in this war.
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因為我真的不瞭解
我只知道這個戰爭有個前線
16:39
And right here, guys -- Silicon Valley.
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還有這裏,矽谷
16:41
I mean -- how many people have an iPhone on them right now?
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現在多少人手上拿著 iPhone?
16:44
How many people have their BlackBerry?
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多少人帶著他們的黑莓機?
16:46
We're plugged in; we're connected.
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我們在線上,聯結著
16:48
I would never suggest for a second
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我永遠不會說
16:50
that something bad has come out of the tech revolution.
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科技革命為我們帶來任何不好的影響
16:53
Good grief, not to this crowd.
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要命,至少不是跟這群觀眾
16:55
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
16:57
But I would suggest
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但我必須說,非經複製的創新
16:58
that innovation without imitation is a complete waste of time.
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完全就是浪費時間
沒有人比”幹盡苦差事“的工作人員
17:04
And nobody celebrates imitation
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17:06
the way "Dirty Jobs" guys know it has to be done.
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更懂得複製的藝術。
17:10
Your iPhone without those people making the same interface,
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你的 iPhone 如果沒有這些人反覆地做 面板
17:13
the same circuitry, the same board, over and over --
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做線路、配電盤,一而再再而三
17:16
all of that -- that's what makes it equally as possible
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這些工作 — 它們為這件物品花費的心力
17:19
as the genius that goes inside of it.
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等同於那些設計這些產品的聰明才智
今日我們有個新的工具箱
17:23
So, we've got this new toolbox. You know?
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17:25
Our tools today don't look like shovels and picks.
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我們的工具不再是鎬和鏟子
它們看起來就像我們每天帶著走的這些物件
17:29
They look like the stuff we walk around with.
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17:32
And so the collective effect of all of that
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這些東西的集體效應
17:37
has been this marginalization of lots and lots of jobs.
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便是邊緣化許多許多的工作
我意識到,雖然可能有點遲
17:43
And I realized, probably too late in this game --
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17:46
I hope not, because I don't know if I can do 200 more of these things --
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我但願不要,因為我不知道我還能不能完成另外兩百個苦差事
但我們會盡力去做到我們所能做的
17:49
but we're going to do as many as we can.
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對我來說,最重要的事情是
17:51
And to me, the most important thing to know
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17:53
and to really come face to face with,
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便是面對真實
17:55
is that fact that I got it wrong about a lot of things,
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我的錯誤認知和觀點
17:58
not just the testicles on my chin.
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不只是腮邊的睾丸而已
18:00
I got a lot wrong.
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我弄錯了很多事
18:03
So, we're thinking -- by "we," I mean me --
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我們在想 - 我是說我在想
18:07
(Laughter)
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應該為工作做一個盛大的公關活動
18:09
that the thing to do is to talk about a PR campaign for work --
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手工、技工
18:15
manual labor, skilled labor.
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有人需要到處去
18:17
Somebody needs to be out there, talking about the forgotten benefits.
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傳講這些被遺忘的好處
18:22
I'm talking about grandfather stuff,
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我說的是那些祖父級的東西
18:24
the stuff a lot us probably grew up with
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那些和我們一起長大的東西
18:26
but we've kind of -- you know, kind of lost a little.
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但我們已經有些 - 你知道,迷失了
一些
18:31
Barack wants to create two and a half million jobs.
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歐巴馬要創造兩百五十萬個工作機會
基礎建設是重點之一
18:34
The infrastructure is a huge deal.
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18:36
This war on work that I suppose exists, has casualties like any other war.
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這場對工作的戰爭,也有傷兵
像所有戰爭一樣
18:40
The infrastructure is the first one,
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基礎建設就是一項
18:42
declining trade school enrollments are the second one.
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專業學校的註冊率下降是第二項
每一年,電工減少了
18:45
Every single year, fewer electricians, fewer carpenters, fewer plumbers,
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木工減少了,水管工人減少了
焊接工減少了,管道安裝的技工減少了
18:50
fewer welders, fewer pipe fitters, fewer steam fitters.
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蒸汽管道工減少了
18:54
The infrastructure jobs that everybody is talking about creating
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每個人口裏說的那些基礎建設的工作
18:58
are those guys -- the ones that have been in decline, over and over.
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就是這些人
這些逐漸在減少的人,一年又一年
19:02
Meanwhile, we've got two trillion dollars, at a minimum,
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按照美國土木工程協會的估計
19:05
according to the American Society of Civil Engineers,
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現在,我們最少需要擴張兩萬億美金
19:07
that we need to expend to even make a dent in the infrastructure,
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如果我們想要在基礎建設上有點初步進展的話
現在還是 D- 級別
19:11
which is currently rated at a D minus.
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如果我想要選舉的話,但我不是
19:13
So, if I were running for anything -- and I'm not --
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19:17
I would simply say that the jobs we hope to make
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我會簡單的說那些我們想要製造的工作機會
19:20
and the jobs we hope to create
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我們想要成就的工作
19:22
aren't going to stick unless they're jobs that people want.
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除非它們是人們想要的工作,不然是不可能達到的
我知道這次座談的重點
19:26
And I know the point of this conference
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19:28
is to celebrate things that are near and dear to us,
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是頌贊這些接近我們親近我們的
19:31
but I also know that clean and dirty aren't opposites.
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但我也知道清潔和骯髒不全然是相對的
19:34
They're two sides of the same coin, just like innovation and imitation,
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它們是一個銅板的兩面
就像革新和複製
19:38
like risk and responsibility, like peripeteia and anagnorisis,
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風險和責任
像轉折和發現
像那可憐的小羊,我希望它不再渾身發抖了
19:43
like that poor little lamb, who I hope isn't quivering anymore,
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像我的時間到了
19:47
and like my time that's gone.
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19:48
It's been great talking to you.
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很高興和你們談話
19:50
And get back to work, will you?
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回去幹活兒吧,行嗎?
19:52
(Applause)
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