Dan Pacholke: How prisons can help inmates live meaningful lives

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譯者: Marssi Draw 審譯者: Adrienne Lin
00:12
We're seen as the organization that is the bucket for failed social policy.
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我們單位被看做是幫 失敗社會政策收拾爛攤子的地方。
00:16
I can't define who comes to us or how long they stay.
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我無法定義來找我們的 會是什麼人,或他們會待多久。
00:19
We get the people for whom nothing else has worked,
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我們收的是大家都無能為力的人,
00:21
people who have fallen through all
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那些人全逃過了
00:23
of the other social safety nets.
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其它的社會安全網絡。
00:25
They can't contain them, so we must.
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這些網絡無法容納他們, 所以我們非收不可。
00:27
That's our job:
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我們的工作是:
00:29
contain them, control them.
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收容他們、管控他們。
00:32
Over the years, as a prison system,
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經過幾年,做為監獄、
00:34
as a nation, and as a society,
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國家和社會的代表,
00:36
we've become very good at that,
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我們變得非常擅長那件事,
00:37
but that shouldn't make you happy.
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但不能因而沾沾自喜。
00:40
Today we incarcerate more people per capita
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今天我國監禁的人口比例
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than any other country in the world.
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位居世界之冠。
00:43
We have more black men in prison today
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今天我們在監獄裡的黑人
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than were under slavery in 1850.
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比 1850 年的奴隸還多。
00:48
We house the parents of almost three million
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我們收了將近三百萬名
00:50
of our community's children,
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社群裡的孩童家長,
00:51
and we've become the new asylum,
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成了新型的避難所,
00:53
the largest mental health provider in this nation.
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國內最大的心理健康服務中心。
00:56
When we lock someone up,
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如果我們監禁某人,
00:58
that is no small thing.
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那可不是件小事。
00:59
And yet, we are called the Department of Corrections.
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而且我們還被稱為矯正署。
01:03
Today I want to talk about
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今天我想談談
01:04
changing the way we think about corrections.
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改變我們對矯正的想法。
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I believe, and my experience tells me,
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我相信就像我的經驗一樣,
01:08
that when we change the way we think,
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只要我們改變想法
01:10
we create new possibilities, or futures,
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就能開創機會或未來,
01:13
and prisons need a different future.
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而監獄需要不同的未來。
01:15
I've spent my entire career in corrections, over 30 years.
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我的職業生涯都在做矯正, 超過三十年了,
01:19
I followed my dad into this field.
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追隨父親到這個領域。
01:20
He was a Vietnam veteran. Corrections suited him.
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他是越戰老兵,矯正教育很適合他。
01:23
He was strong, steady, disciplined.
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他強壯、穩重、自律。
01:26
I was not so much any of those things,
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我可完全不是那樣,
01:28
and I'm sure that worried him about me.
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我相信他之前很擔心這點。
01:30
Eventually I decided, if I was going to end up in prison,
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最後我決定如果打算在監獄做一輩子,
01:33
I'd better end up on the right side of the bars,
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我最好奉公守法,
01:34
so I thought I'd check it out,
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所以我想先去確定一下,
01:36
take a tour of the place my dad worked,
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參觀我爸工作的地方:
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the McNeil Island Penitentiary.
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邁克尼爾島監獄。
01:41
Now this was the early '80s,
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當時是八○年代早期,
01:42
and prisons weren't quite what you see
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監獄和你在電視、電影上 看到的不太一樣。
01:44
on TV or in the movies.
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01:46
In many ways, it was worse.
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很多方面都比現在糟。
01:48
I walked into a cell house that was five tiers high.
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我走進一棟牢房,大概五層樓高。
01:51
There were eight men to a cell.
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八個人住一間,
01:53
there were 550 men in that living unit.
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總共有 550 個人住在那裡。
01:55
And just in case you wondered,
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怕你不知道,我先告訴你,
01:57
they shared one toilet in those small confines.
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他們在那些小空間裡共用一間廁所。
02:00
An officer put a key in a lockbox,
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一位警官把鑰匙放在上鎖的盒子裡,
02:01
and hundreds of men streamed out of their cells.
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上百人湧出他們的牢房。
02:04
Hundreds of men streamed out of their cells.
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上百人湧出他們的牢房。
02:06
I walked away as fast as I could.
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我拔腿就跑。
02:08
Eventually I went back and I started as an officer there.
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後來我回去那裡當警官。
02:11
My job was to run one of those cell blocks
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我的工作是管理其中一區的牢房,
02:13
and to control those hundreds of men.
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管控上百個男人。
02:16
When I went to work at our receptions center,
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我在接待處工作的時候
02:18
I could actually hear the inmates roiling from the parking lot,
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還能聽見停車場傳來 囚犯焦躁的聲音,
02:20
shaking cell doors, yelling,
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他們搖房門、嘶吼、
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tearing up their cells.
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破壞自己的牢房。
02:25
Take hundreds of volatile people and lock them up,
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抓幾百個不定時炸彈, 再把他們關起來,
02:27
and what you get is chaos.
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結果就是一團混亂。
02:29
Contain and control — that was our job.
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收容和管控,就是我們的工作。
02:31
One way we learned to do this more effectively
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我們發現有種更有效率的方法,
02:34
was a new type of housing unit
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是一種新型牢房,
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called the Intensive Management Unit, IMU,
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稱為「密集管理牢房」, IMU(Intensive Management Unit),
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a modern version of a "hole."
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現代版的「地牢」。
02:40
We put inmates in cells behind solid steel doors
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我們把囚犯放在堅固的鋼鐵門後,
02:42
with cuff ports so we could restrain them
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附有手銬可穿過的小窗,
這樣我們能管束他們,也能提供食物。
02:44
and feed them.
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02:46
Guess what?
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你猜成效如何?
02:48
It got quieter.
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變安靜多了。
02:49
Disturbances died down in the general population.
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大家騷動的情況消失了。
02:52
Places became safer
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空間變得更安全,
02:53
because those inmates who were most violent or disruptive
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因為那些最暴力、擾亂的受刑人
02:56
could now be isolated.
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現在都被隔離了。
02:57
But isolation isn't good.
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但隔離並非好事。
02:59
Deprive people of social contact and they deteriorate.
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剝奪他們的社交,他們就會惡化。
03:02
It was hard getting them out of IMU,
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要讓他們離開「密集管理牢房」很難,
03:04
for them and for us.
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對他們和我們來說都是。
03:06
Even in prison, it's no small thing
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即使是在監獄裡,
把人關起來都不是小事。
03:09
to lock someone up.
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03:11
My next assignment was to one of the state's deep-end prisons
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我的下一個任務是在 州內的重犯監獄,
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where some of our more violent or disruptive inmates are housed.
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較暴力或較會擾亂的受刑人 都關在這裡。
03:16
By then, the industry had advanced a lot,
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那個時候這一行進步多了,
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and we had different tools and techniques
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我們有不同的工具和技術
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to manage disruptive behavior.
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用來管理這些擾亂行為。
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We had beanbag guns and pepper spray
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我們有豆袋槍、防狼噴霧劑、
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and plexiglass shields,
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塑膠玻璃防護罩、
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flash bangs, emergency response teams.
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閃爆彈和緊急應變小組。
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We met violence with force
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我們以暴制暴,
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and chaos with chaos.
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以亂治亂。
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We were pretty good at putting out fires.
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我們還蠻擅長滅火的。
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While I was there, I met two experienced correctional workers
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我到那的時候碰到兩位 經驗豐富的監獄員工,
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who were also researchers,
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他們也是研究員,
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an anthropologist and a sociologist.
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一位是人類學者,另一位是社會學者。
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One day, one of them commented to me and said,
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某天其中一位對我說:
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"You know, you're pretty good at putting out fires.
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「你知道,你還蠻擅長滅火的,
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Have you ever thought about how to prevent them?"
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可是你想過要怎麼預防嗎?」
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I was patient with them,
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我耐心向他們解釋
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explaining our brute force approach
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我們這樣的粗暴手段
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to making prisons safer.
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能讓監獄安全一點。
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They were patient with me.
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他們對我也很有耐心。
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Out of those conversations grew some new ideas
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那些對話讓我們有了些新點子,
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and we started some small experiments.
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之後我們就開始做小實驗。
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First, we started training our officers in teams
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首先,我們開始分組訓練警員,
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rather than sending them one or two at a time to the state training academy.
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而不是每次只送一兩個去州立訓練所。
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Instead of four weeks of training, we gave them 10.
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我們不再只做四週訓練,改為十週。
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Then we experimented with an apprenticeship model
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接著我們用師徒制做實驗,
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where we paired new staff with veteran staff.
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讓新手員工和老員工搭檔。
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They both got better at the work.
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他們的工作情況都進步了。
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Second, we added verbal de-escalation skills
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第二,我們把言語降溫技巧
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into the training continuum
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加到訓練系統課程中,
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and made it part of the use of force continuum.
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成為操作連續強制力的一部分,
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It was the non-force use of force.
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那是武力手段中的非武力手段。
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And then we did something even more radical.
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接著我們採取更根本的方式,
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We trained the inmates on those same skills.
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訓練受刑人同樣的技巧。
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We changed the skill set,
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我們將這套技巧改為
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reducing violence, not just responding to it.
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減少暴力,而非只是處理暴力。
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Third, when we expanded our facility, we tried a new type of design.
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第三,當我們增建設施的時候, 嘗試用新型設計。
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Now the biggest and most controversial component
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當時設計上最大和最有爭議的設備
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of this design, of course, was the toilet.
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當然是廁所。
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There were no toilets.
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那裡沒有廁所。
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Now that might not sound significant to you here today,
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現在你聽來可能覺得沒什麼,
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but at the time, it was huge.
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但在當時可是件大事。
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No one had ever heard of a cell without a toilet.
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沒人聽過牢房沒廁所,
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We all thought it was dangerous and crazy.
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我們都認為那很危險也很瘋狂。
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Even eight men to a cell had a toilet.
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即使是八個人共用一間廁所。
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That small detail changed the way we worked.
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那個小細節改變了我們工作的方式。
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Inmates and staff started interacting
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受刑人和員工互動變得更頻繁、開放,
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more often and openly and developing a rapport.
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而且相處融洽。
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It was easier to detect conflict and intervene
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如此一來察覺衝突和干擾更容易了,
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before it escalated.
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不必等到情況惡化才行。
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The unit was cleaner, quieter, safer and more humane.
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牢房變得更整潔、安靜、 安全,也更人性化了。
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This was more effective at keeping the peace
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這麼做能更有效率地維持和平,
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than any intimidation technique I'd seen to that point.
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更勝於要達到那種程度的任何威嚇手段。
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Interacting changes the way you behave,
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互動能改變你的行為,
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both for the officer and the inmate.
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不論是官員或受刑人都是。
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We changed the environment and we changed the behavior.
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我們改變環境的同時也改變行為。
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Now, just in case I hadn't learned this lesson,
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他們怕我還沒學到這一課,
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they assigned me to headquarters next,
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接下來我被派去總部,
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and that's where I ran straight up against system change.
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我就是在那直接反對系統改變。
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Now, many things work against system change:
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很多事運作起來都和系統改變相左:
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politics and politicians, bills and laws,
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政治和政客、經費和法令、
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courts and lawsuits, internal politics.
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法庭和訴訟,還有內部政治。
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System change is difficult and slow,
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系統改變又難又慢,
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and oftentimes it doesn't take you
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也往往無法讓你達成目標。
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where you want to go.
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05:46
It's no small thing to change a prison system.
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改變監獄可不是小事。
05:50
So what I did do is I reflected on my earlier experiences
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我當時回想自己的早期研究,
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and I remembered that when we interacted with offenders, the heat went down.
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我記得和違規者互動時, 高漲的情緒降溫了。
05:56
When we changed the environment, the behavior changed.
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我們改變環境的同時也改變了行為。
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And these were not huge system changes.
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這些不是大幅的系統改革。
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These were small changes, and these changes
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這些只是小小的改變,
06:01
created new possibilities.
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而這些改變開創了新的機會。
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So next, I got reassigned as superintendent of a small prison.
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後來我又被派去一間小監獄當警長,
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And at the same time, I was working on my degree
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同時我也在修常綠州立學院的學位。
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at the Evergreen State College.
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I interacted with a lot of people who were not like me,
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我和很多跟我不同的人來往,
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people who had different ideas
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他們有不同的想法,
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and came from different backgrounds.
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也都來自不同的背景。
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One of them was a rainforest ecologist.
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其中一位是雨林生態學者。
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She looked at my small prison and what she saw
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她看了我的小監獄,
在她眼裡那是小型實驗室。
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was a laboratory.
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We talked and discovered how prisons and inmates
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我們討論、深究監獄和受刑人
06:25
could actually help advance science
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如何能真的幫助先進科學,
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by helping them complete projects
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透過幫助他們完成
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they couldn't complete on their own,
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無法獨立完成的計畫,
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like repopulating endangered species:
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就像復育瀕危物種:
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frogs, butterflies, endangered prairie plants.
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青蛙、蝴蝶、瀕危大草原植物。
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At the same time, we found ways to make
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同時我們也發現
06:37
our operation more efficient
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讓運作更有效率的方法,
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through the addition of solar power,
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像是透過增加太陽能、
06:41
rainwater catchment, organic gardening, recycling.
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雨水收集、有機花園、回收。
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This initiative has led to many projects
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這個計畫讓我們展開
許多造成全體大幅影響的方案,
06:47
that have had huge system-wide impact,
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06:48
not just in our system, but in other state systems as well,
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不只我們的系統,其它州也是,
06:52
small experiments making a big difference
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小實驗帶來大改變,
06:54
to science, to the community.
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對科學和社群都是。
06:57
The way we think about our work changes our work.
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我們思考工作的方式 會改變我們的工作。
07:00
The project just made my job more interesting and exciting.
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計畫讓我的工作變得 更有趣,也更刺激了。
07:03
I was excited. Staff were excited.
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我很興奮,員工也很興奮,
07:05
Officers were excited. Inmates were excited.
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警員很興奮,受刑人也很興奮。
07:07
They were inspired.
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他們都受到鼓舞,
07:09
Everybody wanted to be part of this.
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每個人都想摻一腳。
07:11
They were making a contribution, a difference,
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他們都做出貢獻、改變,
07:13
one they thought was meaningful and important.
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且都認為這些付出有意義也很重要。
07:15
Let me be clear on what's going on here, though.
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讓我再強調一次發生了什麼事。
07:17
Inmates are highly adaptive.
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受刑人都高度適應,
07:19
They have to be.
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他們必須適應。
07:20
Oftentimes, they know more about our own systems
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通常他們比較了解我們的系統
07:23
than the people who run them.
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而非操作系統的人。
07:25
And they're here for a reason.
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他們來到這裡都有原因。
07:27
I don't see my job as to punish them or forgive them,
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我不把自己的工作看成 是要處罰或原諒他們,
07:30
but I do think they can have
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但我的確認為他們能有
07:31
decent and meaningful lives even in prison.
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不錯且有意義的生活, 即使是在監獄。
07:34
So that was the question:
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這就是問題所在:
07:36
Could inmates live decent and meaningful lives,
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受刑人可以過不錯且有意義的生活嗎?
07:39
and if so, what difference would that make?
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如果是的話,那會帶來什麼改變?
07:42
So I took that question back to the deep end,
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我把這個問題帶回重犯監獄,
07:45
where some of our most violent offenders are housed.
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有些非常暴力的受刑人被監禁在那邊。
07:48
Remember, IMUs are for punishment.
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記住,密集管理牢房的功能是處罰。
07:49
You don't get perks there, like programming.
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你不會得到額外的好處, 例如受刑人計畫。
07:51
That was how we thought.
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那是我們原本的想法。
07:53
But then we started to realize that if any inmates
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但後來我們開始了解
07:55
needed programming, it was these particular inmates.
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如果有受刑人需要計畫, 就會是這些特別的受刑人。
07:58
In fact, they needed intensive programming.
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其實他們需要密集的計畫。
08:00
So we changed our thinking 180 degrees,
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所以我們的想法有一百八十度的轉變,
08:02
and we started looking for new possibilities.
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我們開始尋找新的機會。
08:05
What we found was a new kind of chair.
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我們發現的是一種新型的椅子。
08:07
Instead of using the chair for punishment,
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與其用椅子來做處罰,
08:09
we put it in classrooms.
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我們把椅子放進教室裡。
08:11
Okay, we didn't forget our responsibility to control,
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我可沒忘了要管控的責任,
08:14
but now inmates could interact safely, face-to-face
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但現在受刑人可以安全地互動,
08:16
with other inmates and staff,
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和其他受刑人和員工面對面互動,
08:18
and because control was no longer an issue,
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因為管控不再是個問題,
08:19
everybody could focus on other things,
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每個人都可以專注在其它事情上,
08:22
like learning. Behavior changed.
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像是學習。
行為改變了。
08:24
We changed our thinking, and we changed what was possible, and this gives me hope.
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我們改變想法,改變原本可能的樣子,
而這帶給我希望。
08:29
Now, I can't tell you that any of this stuff will work.
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我不能告訴你這些事是怎麼運作的,
08:32
What I can tell you, though, it is working.
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但我可以告訴你,結果很成功。
08:34
Our prisons are getting safer for both staff and inmates,
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我們的受刑人對員工 和其他受刑人來說都更安全了。
08:38
and when our prisons are safe,
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只要我們的監獄很安全,
08:39
we can put our energies into a lot more than just controlling.
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我們就能把精力放在 其它很多比管控更重要的事。
08:43
Reducing recidivism may be our ultimate goal,
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減少再犯率是我們的終極目標,
08:45
but it's not our only goal.
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但那不是我們唯一目標。
08:46
To be honest with you, preventing crime
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老實告訴你,預防犯罪
08:48
takes so much more from so many more people
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要耗費很多人力和機構的大量資源。
08:50
and institutions.
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08:52
If we rely on just prisons to reduce crime,
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如果我們只依賴監獄減少犯罪,
08:55
I'm afraid we'll never get there.
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恐怕永遠都無法達成。
08:57
But prisons can do some things
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但是監獄可以做一些
08:59
we never thought they could do.
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我們從沒想到他們能做的事。
09:00
Prisons can be the source of innovation
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監獄可以成為改革和永續的源頭,
09:03
and sustainability,
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09:04
repopulating endangered species and environmental restoration.
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復育瀕危物種和環境重建。
09:07
Inmates can be scientists and beekeepers,
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受刑人可以是科學家、養蜂人,
09:10
dog rescuers.
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也可以救援小狗。
09:12
Prisons can be the source of meaningful work
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監獄可以是有意義工作的來源、
09:14
and opportunity for staff
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以及員工與當地受刑人的機會。
09:16
and the inmates who live there.
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09:18
We can contain and control
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我們可以收容、管控,
09:21
and provide humane environments.
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且提供人性的環境,
09:23
These are not opposing qualities.
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這些價值並不相左。
09:25
We can't wait 10 to 20 years to find out
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我們不能等十年、二十年去找出答案,
09:28
if this is worth doing.
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看到底值不值得做。
09:29
Our strategy is not massive system change.
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我們的策略並非大體制的改變,
09:32
Our strategy is hundreds of small changes
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我們的策略是上百個小改變,
09:34
that take place in days or months, not years.
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需要花幾天、幾個月去做, 但不需要好幾年。
09:37
We need more small pilots where we learn as we go,
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我們學習的一路上 需要許多小領航員,
09:41
pilots that change the range of possibility.
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那些能改變我們潛能的領航員。
09:44
We need new and better ways to measure impacts
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我們需要又新又好的方法
09:46
on engagement, on interaction,
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來衡量約定、互動
09:48
on safe environments.
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與安全環境的影響。
09:50
We need more opportunities to participate in
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我們需要更多機會
參與和貢獻我們的社群,
09:52
and contribute to our communities,
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09:54
your communities.
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以及你們的社群。
09:57
Prisons need to be secure, yes, safe, yes.
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監獄必須安全無虞,
10:00
We can do that.
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我們做得到。
10:01
Prisons need to provide humane environments
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監獄必須提供人性化的環境,
10:03
where people can participate, contribute,
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讓大家能參與其中、有所貢獻,
10:05
and learn meaningful lives.
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並學習有意義的生活。
10:06
We're learning how to do that.
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我們正在學要怎麼做到。
10:08
That's why I'm hopeful.
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這是我充滿希望的原因。
10:10
We don't have to stay stuck in old ideas about prison.
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我們不需要困在監獄的舊思維裡。
10:12
We can define that. We can create that.
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我們可以定義、創造它。
10:14
And when we do that thoughtfully and with humanity,
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當我們深思熟慮、帶著同情心去做,
10:17
prisons can be more than the bucket
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監獄也可以不只是
失敗社會政策的回收桶。
10:19
for failed social policy.
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10:20
Maybe finally, we will earn our title:
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也許最終我們能實至名歸,
10:24
a department of corrections.
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成為真正的矯正機關。
10:26
Thank you.
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謝謝!
10:28
(Applause)
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