To solve old problems, study new species | Alejandro Sánchez Alvarado

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Translator: Leslie Gauthier Reviewer: Camille Martínez
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For the past few years,
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过去的几年里,
我在马萨诸塞州Woods Hole的 海洋生物实验室
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I've been spending my summers in the marine biological laboratory
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in Woods Hole, Massachusetts.
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度过了好几个夏天。
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And there, what I've been doing is essentially renting a boat.
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我在那里的主要工作是租一艘船。
今晚,我想邀请你们
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What I would like to do is ask you
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to come on a boat ride with me tonight.
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与我乘船同行。
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So, we ride off from Eel Pond into Vineyard Sound,
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我们从Eel Pond出发, 前往Vineyard Sound,
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right off the coast of Martha's Vineyard,
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就在Martha's Vineyard的海岸边,
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equipped with a drone to identify potential spots
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用无人机去辨识出那些 能让我们窥视大西洋秘密的
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from which to peer into the Atlantic.
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可能地点。
我之前想说的是窥视大西洋的深处,
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Earlier, I was going to say into the depths of the Atlantic,
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but we don't have to go too deep to reach the unknown.
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但是我们不用去那么远的 地方去发现未知生物。
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Here, barely two miles away
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就在大概距岸边两英里,
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from what is arguably the greatest marine biology lab in the world,
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可能是世界上最棒的 海洋生物实验室的地方,
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we lower a simple plankton net into the water
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我们放下了一张简易的 浮游生物采集网,
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and bring up to the surface
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那些人类很少注意到,
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things that humanity rarely pays any attention to,
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大部分人从未见过的生命,
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and oftentimes has never seen before.
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就此浮出水面。
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Here's one of the organisms that we caught in our net.
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这是我们用网捕获的生物中的一类。
这是一只水母。
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This is a jellyfish.
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But look closely,
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但是仔细观察,
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and living inside of this animal is another organism
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在它体内生活的是另外一种,
很可能属于学术领域的未知生物。
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that is very likely entirely new to science.
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A complete new species.
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一个全新的物种。
再看看这个透明可爱的小东西,
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Or how about this other transparent beauty
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with a beating heart,
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它拥有一个跳动的心脏,
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asexually growing on top of its head,
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头部顶端可以进行无性繁殖,
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progeny that will move on to reproduce sexually.
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而它的后代却可以进行有性繁殖。
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Let me say that again:
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我想再强调一次:
这种生物可以在头部顶端 进行无性繁殖,
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this animal is growing asexually on top of its head,
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progeny that is going to reproduce sexually in the next generation.
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而它的后代通过 有性繁殖产生下一代。
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A weird jellyfish?
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这是一种奇怪的水母吗?
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Not quite.
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并不是。
这是一种海鞘。
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This is an ascidian.
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This is a group of animals
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我们现在知道
我们和这一大类动物共享 大量遗传基因,
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that now we know we share extensive genomic ancestry with,
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and it is perhaps the closest invertebrate species to our own.
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而且它们或许是 最接近我们的无脊椎物种。
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Meet your cousin,
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见见你的表亲,
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Thalia democratica.
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双尾纽鳃樽吧。
(笑声)
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(Laughter)
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我很确定你们在最近的一次 家族聚会时候都没有给它
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I'm pretty sure you didn't save a spot at your last family reunion
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留一个座位,
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for Thalia,
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but let me tell you,
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但是听我说,
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these animals are profoundly related to us
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这些生物和我们息息相关,
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in ways that we're just beginning to understand.
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以某些我们刚刚开始理解的方式。
下次你听见其他人嘲笑这类研究
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So, next time you hear anybody derisively telling you
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that this type of research is a simple fishing expedition,
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只是一项简单的捕捞征途,
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I hope that you'll remember the trip that we just took.
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我希望你能记住我们刚刚经历的旅程。
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Today, many of the biological sciences only see value
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目前,许多生物方面的研究只看到
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in studying deeper what we already know --
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深究我们已知的方面的价值——
就像描绘已发现的大陆一样。
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in mapping already-discovered continents.
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但是我们之中的一些人 对于未知的部分更有兴趣。
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But some of us are much more interested in the unknown.
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We want to discover completely new continents,
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我们想要探索全新的大陆,
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and gaze at magnificent vistas of ignorance.
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凝望无限的未知。
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We crave the experience of being completely baffled
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我们渴望获得被前所未知的事物
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by something we've never seen before.
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完全困惑的经历。
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And yes, I agree
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是的,我承认,
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there's a lot of little ego satisfaction in being able to say,
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说出这句话能给予极大的自我满足:
“嘿,我是第一个发现它的!”
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"Hey, I was the first one to discover that."
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但这并不是能让你 自我感觉颇有成就的研究。
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But this is not a self-aggrandizing enterprise,
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因为在这类探索性研究中,
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because in this type of discovery research,
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if you don't feel like a complete idiot most of the time,
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如果你没有在大多数时间 觉得自己是个笨蛋的话,
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you're just not sciencing hard enough.
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说明你还不够投入。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
每个夏天,当我来到 这艘小船的甲板上,
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So every summer I bring onto the deck of this little boat of ours
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都会发现有许多的事情 我们只是略知皮毛。
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more and more things that we know very little about.
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I would like tonight to tell you a story about life
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我想通过今晚的演讲 告诉大家一个关于生命的故事,
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that rarely gets told in an environment like this.
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一个极少在这种情形下提起的故事。
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From the vantage point of our 21st-century biological laboratories,
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在21世纪生物实验室的巅峰时期,
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we have begun to illuminate many mysteries of life with knowledge.
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我们开始运用知识 点亮许多生命中的未知。
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We sense that after centuries of scientific research,
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我们感觉到在几百年的科学研究中,
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we're beginning to make significant inroads
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我们正在大步踏入
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into understanding some of the most fundamental principles of life.
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理解某些关于生命 最基本原理的过程。
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Our collective optimism is reflected by the growth of biotechnology
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我们的集体乐观反应在全球范围内
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across the globe,
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生物科技的发展中,
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striving to utilize scientific knowledge to cure human diseases.
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努力去运用科学知识治疗人类疾病。
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Things like cancer, aging, degenerative diseases;
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比如癌症,衰老,退化疾病;
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these are but some of the undesirables we wish to tame.
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它们是我们不想要的, 我们需要驯服它们。
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I often wonder:
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我经常感到迷惑,
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Why is it that we are having so much trouble
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为什么我们在尝试 治疗癌症的过程中
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trying to solve the problem of cancer?
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面临如此多的问题?
是因为我们仅仅着眼于 解决癌症这个问题,
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Is it that we're trying to solve the problem of cancer,
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and not trying to understand life?
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却没有尝试去理解生命吗?
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Life on this planet shares a common origin,
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这个星球上的生命拥有同一个起源,
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and I can summarize 3.5 billion years of the history of life on this planet
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而且我能用一页ppt描述 35亿年之间在这个星球上
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in a single slide.
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关于生命的历史。
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What you see here are representatives of all known species in our planet.
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你们所看到的图代表了我们星球上 所有已知的物种。
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In this immensity of life and biodiversity,
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在这广大的生命和生物多样性之中,
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we occupy a rather unremarkable position.
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我们只占据了一个非常不起眼的位置。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Homo sapiens.
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智人。
人类的最终演化版本。
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The last of our kind.
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And though I don't really want to disparage at all
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即使我完全没有蔑视
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the accomplishments of our species,
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我们物种成就的意思,
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as much as we wish it to be so and often pretend that it is,
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就算我们十分希望并且认为占据优势,
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we are not the measure of all things.
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我们也不是所有事情的衡量标准。
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We are, however, the measurers of many things.
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我们的确是许多事情的衡量者。
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We relentlessly quantify, analyze and compare,
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我们无休止地量化,分析和比较,
其中的一部分工作 的确是无价和必要的。
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and some of this is absolutely invaluable and indeed necessary.
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But this emphasis today on forcing biological research to specialize
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但是对此过分强调导致了 现在的生物研究专精化,
而且产生的实际可用成果
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and to produce practical outcomes
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is actually restricting our ability to interrogate life
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正在把我们对生命的探寻限制于
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to unacceptably narrow confines and unsatisfying depths.
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过于狭小的范围和差强人意的深度中。
我们测量的只是生命中 极小的一块样品薄片,
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We are measuring an astonishingly narrow sliver of life,
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奢望那些数字可以 拯救我们所有人的性命。
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and hoping that those numbers will save all of our lives.
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How narrow do you ask?
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小到什么程度?
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Well, let me give you a number.
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我可以给你一个数字。
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The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recently estimated
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国家海洋和大气管理局最近估计
有95%的海洋尚未被探索。
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that about 95 percent of our oceans remain unexplored.
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Now let that sink in for a second.
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花一秒钟仔细想想。
95%的海洋尚未探索。
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95 percent of our oceans remain unexplored.
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I think it's very safe to say
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如果说我们连对生命的未知有多少
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that we don't even know how much about life we do not know.
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都一无所知,也并不为过。
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So, it's not surprising that every week in my field
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在我的研究方向, 每周都会有新物种被添加到
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we begin to see the addition of more and more new species
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这颗令人惊叹的生命之树,
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to this amazing tree of life.
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一点也不足为奇。
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This one for example --
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举例而言,
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discovered earlier this summer,
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这个物种就是在这个初夏发现的,
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new to science,
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科学界对它一无所知,
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and now occupying its lonely branch in our family tree.
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现在已经在我们的族谱上 占据了自己的位置。
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What is even more tragic
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更可悲的是,
我们已知有那么多的物种,
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is that we know about a bunch of other species of animals out there,
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but their biology remains sorely under-studied.
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但是对它们的生物结构 却没有深入的研究。
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I'm sure some of you have heard about the fact
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我很确信有些人听过一个事实,
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that a starfish can actually regenerate its arm after it's lost.
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海星可以在失去一根触手之后再生。
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But some of you might not know
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但是你们或许不知道的是,
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that the arm itself can actually regenerate a complete starfish.
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一根触手可以再生成一个完整的海星。
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And there are animals out there that do truly astounding things.
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还有许多动物可以完成 更多令人难以置信的事。
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I'm almost willing to bet
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我甚至愿意打赌,
你们大概从未听说过 一种扁虫,淡水涡虫。
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that many of you have never heard of the flatworm, Schmidtea mediterranea.
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This little guy right here
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这个小家伙
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does things that essentially just blow my mind.
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能够办到一些我不敢相信的事情。
你可以抓一个并把它切成十八段,
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You can grab one of these animals and cut it into 18 different fragments,
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每一段都会开始再生,
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and each and every one of those fragments will go on to regenerate
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a complete animal
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直到变成一个完整的生命体,
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in under two weeks.
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而这一切都发生在两周之内。
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18 heads, 18 bodies, 18 mysteries.
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18个头部,18个身躯,18个秘密。
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For the past decade and a half or so,
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在过去的十五年左右,
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I've been trying to figure out how these little dudes do what they do,
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我一直想弄明白这些 小家伙是怎么做到的,
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and how they pull this magic trick off.
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它们是如何施展它的魔法的。
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But like all good magicians,
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但是就和所有优秀的魔术师一样,
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they're not really releasing their secrets readily to me.
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他们不会真的对我们揭晓这些秘密。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So here we are,
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就这样,
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after 20 years of essentially studying these animals,
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在对于这些动物20年的基础研究中,
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genome mapping, chin scratching,
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绘制基因图谱,划痕实验,
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and thousands of amputations and thousands of regenerations,
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数千次的切割和再生,
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we still don't fully understand how these animals do what they do.
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我们依旧不完全理解 它们是怎么做到的。
每一个真涡虫对它们自己而言,
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Each planarian an ocean unto itself,
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full of unknowns.
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都是充满了未知的海洋。
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One of the common characteristics
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我对你们提到的
这些动物有一种共有的特性,
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of all of these animals I've been talking to you about
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我们从目前世界各地的 生物实验室中
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is that they did not appear to have received the memo
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that they need to behave according to the rules
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占据主流的动物中抽取了
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that we have derived from a handful of randomly selected animals
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一些随机样本,并总结出了规律,
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that currently populate the vast majority
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但是它们的行为
并不符合实验记录中描述的规律。
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of biomedical laboratories across the world.
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这是我们的诺贝尔奖获得者们。
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Meet our Nobel Prize winners.
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Seven species, essentially,
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仅仅七个物种,
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that have produced for us the brunt of our understanding
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就足以提供我们目前对于生物行为的
所有基础理解。
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of biological behavior today.
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这个小东西——
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This little guy right here --
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three Nobel Prizes in 12 years.
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12年里拿到了三次诺贝尔奖。
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And yet, after all the attention they have garnered,
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它们在吸引了许多关注,
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and all the knowledge they have generated,
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产生出许多知识,
并分享了大量的研究基金后,
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as well as the lion's share of the funding,
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我们仍然站在一连串复杂难解的问题
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here we are standing [before] the same litany of intractable problems
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和全新的挑战面前。
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and many new challenges.
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And that's because, unfortunately,
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这是因为,很遗憾,
这七种动物只代表了
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these seven animals essentially correspond
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to 0.0009 percent of all of the species that inhabit the planet.
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目前地球上0.0009%的物种。
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So I'm beginning to suspect
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所以我开始怀疑,
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that our specialization is beginning to impede our progress at best,
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这样的专精即使在最好的情况下 也是在阻碍我们的进步,
最坏的情况则会让我们误入歧途。
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and at worst, is leading us astray.
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That's because life on this planet and its history
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毕竟这颗星球上的生命以及它们的历史,
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is the history of rule breakers.
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正是一段规则破坏者的历史。
09:31
Life started on the face of this planet as single-cell organisms,
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在这颗星球的表面上, 生命起源于单细胞生物,
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swimming for millions of years in the ocean,
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在海洋里畅游了几百万年,
直到其中一个决定:
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until one of those creatures decided,
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"I'm going to do things differently today;
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“从今天起我要尝试一些新鲜的事儿;
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today I would like to invent something called multicellularity,
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我要发明一种叫做多细胞的东西,
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and I'm going to do this."
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我一定会做到。“
09:45
And I'm sure it wasn't a popular decision at the time --
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我很确定这不是一个在当时看来 常见的决定——但是不知为何,
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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but somehow, it managed to do it.
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它决定了这么去做。
然后,多细胞生物在远古海洋中
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And then, multicellular organisms began to populate
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all these ancestral oceans,
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开始繁衍生息,
并且蓬勃发展。
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and they thrived.
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And we have them here today.
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它们如今也依然存在。
09:58
Land masses began to emerge from the surface of the oceans,
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陆地浮出于海平面上方,
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and another creature thought,
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另一个生物想到,
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"Hey, that looks like a really nice piece of real estate.
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“那里看上去像是一块不错的不动产。
我想要搬去那里。“
10:06
I'd like to move there."
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10:07
"Are you crazy?
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“你疯了吗?
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You're going to desiccate out there. Nothing can live out of water."
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从这里离开你会缺水而死。 没有什么可以离开水而存活。“
10:11
But life found a way,
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但是生命克服了这个困难,
然后就有了现在在陆地上生活的生物。
10:13
and there are organisms now that live on land.
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10:15
Once on land, they may have looked up into the sky
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又一次,在陆地上, 它们或许看向天空说到:
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and said, "It would be nice to go to the clouds,
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“能去云里面就好了,
我想飞。“
10:20
I'm going to fly."
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“你不可能打破重力的束缚, 别做梦了。”
10:21
"You can't break the law of gravity, there's no way you can fly."
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10:24
And yet, nature has invented --
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然后,自然就创造了——
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multiple and independent times --
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许许多多各式各样的——
10:28
ways to fly.
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方式去飞行。
10:30
I love to study these animals that break the rules,
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我热爱研究那些打破规则的动物,
10:32
because every time they break a rule, they invent something new
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因为每次它们打破束缚, 就创造了一些新的方法,
10:36
that made it possible for us to be able to be here today.
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一些帮助我们最终存活下来的方法。
10:40
These animals did not get the memo.
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这些动物并没有见过实验记录。
10:42
They break the rules.
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它们打破了规则。
10:44
So if we're going to study animals that break the rules,
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所以如果我们要研究 这些打破规则的动物,
我们是否应该在研究的 方法上同样打破规则?
10:47
shouldn't how we study them also break the rules?
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10:51
I think we need to renew our spirit of exploration.
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我认为我们应该重拾探险精神。
10:55
Rather than bring nature into our laboratories
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比起把自然界搬回我们的实验室
10:57
and interrogate it there,
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并且在那里开展研究,
10:59
we need to bring our science
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我们应该把科学研究
放回自然,这个最广阔的研究场所。
11:01
into the majestic laboratory that is nature,
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11:03
and there, with our modern technological armamentarium,
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在那里,运用我们的现代科学技术,
11:07
interrogate every new form of life we find,
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仔细研究每一种拥有新形式的生命,
11:10
and any new biological attribute that we may find.
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和我们找到的每一种新的生物属性。
11:14
We actually need to bring all of our intelligence
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我们需要竭尽全力,
11:18
to becoming stupid again --
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从智慧重回愚笨——
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clueless [before] the immensity of the unknown.
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变得在无尽的未知前毫无头绪。
因为毕竟,
11:25
Because after all,
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11:26
science is not really about knowledge.
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科学不只关乎知识。
11:28
Science is about ignorance.
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科学更是和未知息息相关。
11:31
That's what we do.
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这正是我们所做的。
11:32
Once, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry wrote,
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曾经,安托万·德·圣-埃克苏佩里 (小王子作者)写到:
11:35
"If you want to build a ship,
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“如果你想造一艘船,
11:37
don't drum up people to collect wood
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不要让人们一直收集木材,
11:39
and don't assign them tasks and work,
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不要指派他们任务和工作,
而是要激发他们 对于无穷无尽的海洋的渴望......“
11:42
but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea ..."
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11:46
As a scientist and a teacher,
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作为一位科学家和老师,
11:48
I like to paraphrase this to read
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我想要这样解读这句话:
11:50
that we scientists need to teach our students
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“科学家需要教会我们的学生,
11:53
to long for the endless immensity of the sea
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去追寻那无穷无尽的海洋,
也就是我们的无知。“
11:56
that is our ignorance.
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11:58
We Homo sapiens are the only species we know of
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我们智人是唯一一种已知的
12:02
that is driven to scientific inquiry.
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趋向于科学探知的物种。
12:05
We, like all other species on this planet,
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我们,就像这颗星球上其他物种一样,
12:07
are inextricably woven into the history of life on this planet.
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在一点一点编织着 这颗星球上关于生命的历史。
12:12
And I think I'm a little wrong when I say that life is a mystery,
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我想我把生命形容成 一个谜团可能并不准确,
因为我认为生命实质上 是一个开放的秘密,
12:16
because I think that life is actually an open secret
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12:18
that has been beckoning our species for millennia to understand it.
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花了上千年的时间等待我们去理解。
12:23
So I ask you:
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所以我想问问大家:
12:24
Aren't we the best chance that life has to know itself?
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难道我们(的存在)不正是了解 生命本身的最好机会吗?
如果真是这样,
12:29
And if so,
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我们又在等待什么呢?
12:30
what the heck are we waiting for?
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12:32
Thank you.
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谢谢大家。
12:33
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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