Carl Schoonover: How to look inside the brain

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翻译人员: Jia Zeng 校对人员: Yuguo Zhang
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This is a thousand-year-old drawing of the brain.
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这是一张一千年前关于大脑的绘画
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It's a diagram of the visual system.
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一个关于视觉系统的图像
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And some things look very familiar today.
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有些东西在今天看来也很熟悉
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Two eyes at the bottom, optic nerve flowing out from the back.
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底下是两只眼睛,视觉神经从它们后面伸出来
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There's a very large nose
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这是个很大的鼻子
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that doesn't seem to be connected to anything in particular.
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看起来它并没有连接到特殊的部位
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And if we compare this
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如果我们把这个
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to more recent representations of the visual system,
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跟最近的视觉系统的表现形式进行对比
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you'll see that things have gotten substantially more complicated
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你会发现情况变得异常复杂
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over the intervening thousand years.
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在经历了几千年之后
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And that's because today we can see what's inside of the brain,
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这是因为今天我们可以看见大脑里面的东西
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rather than just looking at its overall shape.
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而不只是它大致的形状
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Imagine you wanted to understand how a computer works
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想象下如果你想知道电脑是如何工作的
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and all you could see was a keyboard, a mouse, a screen.
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你能看到的只是键盘,鼠标和屏幕
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You really would be kind of out of luck.
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你真的不会那么走运(明白它是怎么工作的)
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You want to be able to open it up, crack it open,
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你会想要打开它,拆开它
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look at the wiring inside.
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看看里面电线的连接
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And up until a little more than a century ago,
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直到一百多年以前
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nobody was able to do that with the brain.
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没有人能够这样对待大脑
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Nobody had had a glimpse of the brain's wiring.
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没人看到过大脑的回路
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And that's because if you take a brain out of the skull
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那是因为如果你把大脑从头盖骨里拿出来
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and you cut a thin slice of it,
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从中切出一个薄片
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put it under even a very powerful microscope,
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把它放在即便很强大的显微镜下面
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there's nothing there.
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那里什么都没有
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It's gray, formless.
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它是灰色的,没有固定形状
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There's no structure. It won't tell you anything.
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没有结构。它不会告诉你任何东西
01:19
And this all changed in the late 19th century.
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这些都在19世纪末发生了改变
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Suddenly, new chemical stains for brain tissue were developed
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忽然间,人们发明了新的大脑组织的化学染料
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and they gave us our first glimpses at brain wiring.
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这些染料让我们第一次看到大脑的回路
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The computer was cracked open.
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这个电脑被打开了
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So what really launched modern neuroscience
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真正开启现代神经科学的是
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was a stain called the Golgi stain.
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一种叫高尔基染色法的染料
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And it works in a very particular way.
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它工作原理很特别
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Instead of staining all of the cells inside of a tissue,
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它并不是对组织里面的所有细胞进行染色
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it somehow only stains about one percent of them.
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而是只染对其中大约1%的细胞
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It clears the forest, reveals the trees inside.
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它清除了森林的图像,展现了其中的树木
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If everything had been labeled, nothing would have been visible.
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如果所有东西都被标记上的话,那什么都看不见了
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So somehow it shows what's there.
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所有它以某种方式展示了大脑里的东西
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Spanish neuroanatomist Santiago Ramon y Cajal,
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西班牙神经解剖学家圣地亚哥·拉蒙-卡哈尔
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who's widely considered the father of modern neuroscience,
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被普遍认为是现代神经科学之父
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applied this Golgi stain, which yields data which looks like this,
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他用高尔基染色法展示了这样的图像
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and really gave us the modern notion of the nerve cell, the neuron.
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这给了我们神经细胞,神经元的现代概念
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And if you're thinking of the brain as a computer,
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如果你把大脑想象成一个电脑
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this is the transistor.
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这就是晶体管
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And very quickly Cajal realized
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卡哈尔很快意识到
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that neurons don't operate alone,
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神经元不是单独工作的
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but rather make connections with others
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而是与其它神经元互相连接
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that form circuits just like in a computer.
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形成像电脑一样的电路
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Today, a century later, when researchers want to visualize neurons,
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今天,一个世纪之后,当研究人员想要看神经元的时候
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they light them up from the inside rather than darkening them.
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他们从内部点亮神经元,而不是让它们变暗
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And there's several ways of doing this.
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它有几种做法
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But one of the most popular ones
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最流行的做法之一
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involves green fluorescent protein.
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要用到荧光蛋白
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Now green fluorescent protein,
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现在,绿色荧光蛋白
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which oddly enough comes from a bioluminescent jellyfish,
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一种来自生物发光的水母中的荧光蛋白
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is very useful.
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很有用处
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Because if you can get the gene for green fluorescent protein
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因为如果你能得到绿色荧光蛋白的基因
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and deliver it to a cell,
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并把它运入一个细胞
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that cell will glow green --
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那个细胞就会发出绿色荧光——
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or any of the many variants now of green fluorescent protein,
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如果你使用任何这种绿色荧光蛋白的变体
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you get a cell to glow many different colors.
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你可以让一个细胞发出不同的颜色的荧光
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And so coming back to the brain,
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回到大脑的话题
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this is from a genetically engineered mouse called "Brainbow."
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有一种叫“大脑彩虹”的转基因小鼠
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And it's so called, of course,
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人们这样叫它
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because all of these neurons are glowing different colors.
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当然是因为这些神经元在发出不同颜色的荧光
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Now sometimes neuroscientists need to identify
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现在,神经科学家们有时候需要识别
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individual molecular components of neurons, molecules,
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神经元的特定分子元件
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rather than the entire cell.
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识别分子,而不是整个细胞
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And there's several ways of doing this,
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这可以通过好几种方法做到
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but one of the most popular ones
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但是最流行的方法之一
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involves using antibodies.
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用到了抗体
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And you're familiar, of course,
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你们一定
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with antibodies as the henchmen of the immune system.
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对作为免疫系统的抗体十分熟悉
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But it turns out that they're so useful to the immune system
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实际上它们在免疫系统中如此重要的原因是
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because they can recognize specific molecules,
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它们可以识别特定的分子
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like, for example, the coat protein
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比如一个入侵身体的病毒的
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of a virus that's invading the body.
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外壳蛋白
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And researchers have used this fact
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研究人员利用抗体的这个特性
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in order to recognize specific molecules inside of the brain,
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来识别大脑内部的特定分子
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recognize specific substructures of the cell
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识别细胞的特定亚结构
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and identify them individually.
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并将它们逐个分辨出来
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And a lot of the images I've been showing you here are very beautiful,
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我在这展示的很多图像都很漂亮
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but they're also very powerful.
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但它们同时也很强大
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They have great explanatory power.
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它们可以解释很多东西
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This, for example, is an antibody staining
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比如说,这是一个
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against serotonin transporters in a slice of mouse brain.
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针对小鼠大脑切片里5-羟色胺转运体的抗体染色图象
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And you've heard of serotonin, of course,
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你们肯定听说过5-羟色胺
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in the context of diseases like depression and anxiety.
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它与忧虑、焦虑一类的疾病有关
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You've heard of SSRIs,
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你们也听说过 SSRIs (选择性5-羟色胺再摄取抑制剂)
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which are drugs that are used to treat these diseases.
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它被用来治疗以上几种疾病
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And in order to understand how serotonin works,
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如果想了解5-羟色胺是怎么起作用的
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it's critical to understand where the serontonin machinery is.
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我们必须先明白5-羟色胺作用的部位在哪里
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And antibody stainings like this one
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而我们可以通过这样的抗体染色
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can be used to understand that sort of question.
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来解答类似的问题
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I'd like to leave you with the following thought:
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我想给你们留下这样一个信息:
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Green fluorescent protein and antibodies
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绿色荧光蛋白和抗体
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are both totally natural products at the get-go.
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最早都是自然产物
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They were evolved by nature
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它们通过自然进化
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in order to get a jellyfish to glow green for whatever reason,
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以便使一个水母不论以什么原因发出绿色荧光
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or in order to detect the coat protein of an invading virus, for example.
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或是以便识别入侵身体的病毒的外壳蛋白
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And only much later did scientists come onto the scene
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过了很久很久以后,科学家才出场
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and say, "Hey, these are tools,
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说:“这些都是工具,
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these are functions that we could use
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我们可以把这些功能
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in our own research tool palette."
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用到我们自己的研究工具控制板上。”
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And instead of applying feeble human minds
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与其用有限的人类智慧
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to designing these tools from scratch,
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来从头设计工具
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there were these ready-made solutions right out there in nature
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不如用这些在自然界中
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developed and refined steadily for millions of years
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经过几百万年的发展、改善并稳定下来的现成的工具来解答
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by the greatest engineer of all.
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它们是大自然的鬼斧神工
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Thank you.
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谢谢
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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