Carl Schoonover: How to look inside the brain

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Prevoditelj: Suzana Baric Recezent: SIBELA KESAC
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This is a thousand-year-old drawing of the brain.
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Ovo je crtež mozga star tisuću godina.
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It's a diagram of the visual system.
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To je graf optičkog sustava.
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And some things look very familiar today.
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A neke stvari danas izgledaju veoma poznato.
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Two eyes at the bottom, optic nerve flowing out from the back.
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Dva oka na dnu, optički živac proizlazi iz pozadine.
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There's a very large nose
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Tu je jako velik nos
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that doesn't seem to be connected to anything in particular.
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koji, čini se, nije povezan s ničim posebnim.
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And if we compare this
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Ako to usporedimo
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to more recent representations of the visual system,
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sa suvremenijim prikazima optičkog sustava,
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you'll see that things have gotten substantially more complicated
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vidjet ćete da su se stvari jako zakomplicirale
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over the intervening thousand years.
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kroz proteklih tisuću godina.
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And that's because today we can see what's inside of the brain,
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A to je zato što danas možemo vidjeti što je unutar mozga,
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rather than just looking at its overall shape.
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a ne samo gledati njegov cjelokupni oblik.
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Imagine you wanted to understand how a computer works
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Zamislite da želite razumjeti kako kompjuter radi,
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and all you could see was a keyboard, a mouse, a screen.
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a možete vidjeti samo tipkovnicu, miša i ekran.
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You really would be kind of out of luck.
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Zbilja ne biste imali sreće.
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You want to be able to open it up, crack it open,
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Želite moći otvoriti ga, rastvoriti ga,
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look at the wiring inside.
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razgledati ožičenje unutra.
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And up until a little more than a century ago,
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I sve do prije malo više od sto godina,
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nobody was able to do that with the brain.
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nitko to nije mogao učiniti s mozgom.
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Nobody had had a glimpse of the brain's wiring.
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Nitko nije ni povirio u ožičenje mozga.
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And that's because if you take a brain out of the skull
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I zato, ako izvadite mozak iz lubanje
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and you cut a thin slice of it,
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i odrežete tanak režanj,
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put it under even a very powerful microscope,
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stavite ga čak i pod veoma snažan mikroskop,
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there's nothing there.
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ondje nema ničega.
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It's gray, formless.
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Siv je, bez oblika.
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There's no structure. It won't tell you anything.
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Nema strukture. Neće vam ništa reći.
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And this all changed in the late 19th century.
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A to se sve promijenilo krajem 19. stoljeća.
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Suddenly, new chemical stains for brain tissue were developed
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Odjednom, razvijene su nove kemijske mrlje za tkivo mozga
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and they gave us our first glimpses at brain wiring.
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i dale su nam prve poglede na ožičenje mozga.
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The computer was cracked open.
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Kompjuter je rastvoren.
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So what really launched modern neuroscience
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Ono što je zbilja pokrenulo modernu neuroznanost
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was a stain called the Golgi stain.
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je bila mrlja nazvana "Golgijeva mrlja".
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And it works in a very particular way.
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A radi na jedan poseban način.
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Instead of staining all of the cells inside of a tissue,
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Umjesto da umrlja sve stanice unutar tkiva,
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it somehow only stains about one percent of them.
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ona nekako umrlja samo oko 1% njih.
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It clears the forest, reveals the trees inside.
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Ona rasčišćava šumu, otkriva stabla unutar nje.
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If everything had been labeled, nothing would have been visible.
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Ako je sve već označeno, ništa se ne bi vidjelo.
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So somehow it shows what's there.
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Ali nekako pokazuje što je ondje.
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Spanish neuroanatomist Santiago Ramon y Cajal,
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Španjolski neuroanatomist, Santiago Ramon y Cajal,
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who's widely considered the father of modern neuroscience,
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koji se smatra ocem moderne neuroznanosti,
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applied this Golgi stain, which yields data which looks like this,
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primjenio je tu Golgijevu mrlju, koja donosi podatke koji ovako izgledaju,
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and really gave us the modern notion of the nerve cell, the neuron.
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i zbilja nam dao moderan pojam živčane stanice, neurona.
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And if you're thinking of the brain as a computer,
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A ako razmišljate o mozgu kao o kompjuteru,
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this is the transistor.
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ovo je tranzistor.
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And very quickly Cajal realized
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I Cajal je ubrzo shvatio
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that neurons don't operate alone,
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da neuroni ne rade sami,
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but rather make connections with others
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već stvaraju veze s drugima
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that form circuits just like in a computer.
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i tvore krugove baš kao kod kompjutera.
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Today, a century later, when researchers want to visualize neurons,
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Danas, sto godina kasnije, kada znanstvenici žele vizualizirati neurone,
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they light them up from the inside rather than darkening them.
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posvijetle ih iznutra, umjesto da ih potamne.
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And there's several ways of doing this.
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A postoji nekoliko načina na koje se to napravi.
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But one of the most popular ones
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Ali jedan od najpopularnijih
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involves green fluorescent protein.
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uključuje zeleni fluorescentni protein.
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Now green fluorescent protein,
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Zeleni fluorescentni protein,
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which oddly enough comes from a bioluminescent jellyfish,
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čudno je to ¸što dolazi od bioluminiscentne meduze,
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is very useful.
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veoma je koristan.
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Because if you can get the gene for green fluorescent protein
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Ako možete dobiti gen za zeleni fluorescentni protein
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and deliver it to a cell,
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i dopremiti ga do stanice,
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that cell will glow green --
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ta stanica će svijetliti zeleno -
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or any of the many variants now of green fluorescent protein,
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ili bilo koju drugu od mnogih varijacija zelenog fluorescentnog proteina,
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you get a cell to glow many different colors.
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možete dobiti stanicu koja svijetli u mnogo različitih boja.
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And so coming back to the brain,
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Vratimo se na mozak.
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this is from a genetically engineered mouse called "Brainbow."
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Ovo je iz genetički stvorenog miša nazvanog "Moždana duga".
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And it's so called, of course,
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A tako se, naravno, zove
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because all of these neurons are glowing different colors.
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zato što svi ovi neuroni svijetle u različitim bojama.
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Now sometimes neuroscientists need to identify
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Ponekad neuroznanstvenici moraju identificirati
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individual molecular components of neurons, molecules,
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pojedinačne molekularne sastavnice neurona, molekule,
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rather than the entire cell.
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a ne cijele stanice.
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And there's several ways of doing this,
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To se može napraviti na nekoliko načina,
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but one of the most popular ones
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ali jedan od najpopularnijih
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involves using antibodies.
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uključuje korištenje antitijela.
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And you're familiar, of course,
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A vi ste, naravno, upoznati
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with antibodies as the henchmen of the immune system.
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s antitijelima kao štitonošama imunosnog sustava.
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But it turns out that they're so useful to the immune system
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Ali ispada da su tako korisna imunosnom sustavu
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because they can recognize specific molecules,
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zato što mogu prepoznati određene molekule,
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like, for example, the coat protein
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kao, na primjer, protein s kodom
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of a virus that's invading the body.
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virusa koji napada tijelo.
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And researchers have used this fact
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I znanstvenici su iskoristili tu činjenicu
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in order to recognize specific molecules inside of the brain,
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kako bi prepoznali određene molekule unutar mozga,
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recognize specific substructures of the cell
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prepoznali određene podstrukture stanice
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and identify them individually.
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i pojedinačno ih identificirali.
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And a lot of the images I've been showing you here are very beautiful,
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I mnoge od slika koje sam vam ovdje pokazao su jako lijepe,
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but they're also very powerful.
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ali isto tako su i vrlo snažne.
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They have great explanatory power.
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Imaju veliku snagu objašnjenja.
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This, for example, is an antibody staining
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Ovo je, na primjer, mrlja na antitijelima
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against serotonin transporters in a slice of mouse brain.
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nasuprot prenosiocima serotonina u režnju miševog mozga.
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And you've heard of serotonin, of course,
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A čuli ste za serotonin, naravno,
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in the context of diseases like depression and anxiety.
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u kontekstu bolesti kao što su depresija i tjeskoba.
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You've heard of SSRIs,
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Čuli ste za SSRI lijekove,
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which are drugs that are used to treat these diseases.
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koji se koriste za liječenje tih bolesti.
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And in order to understand how serotonin works,
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A kako bismo razumjeli kako serotonin djeluje,
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it's critical to understand where the serontonin machinery is.
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neophodno je razumjeti gdje se nalazi mehanizacija serotonina.
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And antibody stainings like this one
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Mrlje na antitijelima poput ove
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can be used to understand that sort of question.
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mogu se koristiti kako bi se razumjela ovakva pitanja.
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I'd like to leave you with the following thought:
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Želio bih završiti sa sljedećom misli:
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Green fluorescent protein and antibodies
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Zeleni fluorescentni protein i antitijela
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are both totally natural products at the get-go.
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oboje su od samoga početka posve prirodni proizvodi.
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They were evolved by nature
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Razvila ih je priroda
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in order to get a jellyfish to glow green for whatever reason,
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kako bi meduza svijetlila zeleno iz tko zna kojeg razloga,
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or in order to detect the coat protein of an invading virus, for example.
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ili da bi se otkrio protein s kodom virusa koji napada tijelo, na primjer.
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And only much later did scientists come onto the scene
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A tek mnogo kasnije su se na sceni pojavili znanstvenici
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and say, "Hey, these are tools,
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i rekli: "Hej, ovo je alat,
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these are functions that we could use
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to su funkcije koje bismo mogli koristiti
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in our own research tool palette."
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u vlastitoj istraživačkoj paleti alata."
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And instead of applying feeble human minds
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I umjesto da uposlimo nejake ljudske umove
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to designing these tools from scratch,
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da osmisle ove alate iz ničega,
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there were these ready-made solutions right out there in nature
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postojala su ova gotova rješenja negdje u prirodi
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developed and refined steadily for millions of years
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koje je milijunima godina neprestano razvijao i usavršavao
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by the greatest engineer of all.
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najveći inžinjer od svih.
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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