Why Public Beheadings Get Millions of Views | Frances Larson | TED Talks

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翻译人员: Xiaoya Song 校对人员: Yolanda Zhang
00:12
For the last year,
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过去的一年中,
00:14
everyone's been watching the same show,
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大家都在收看同一档节目,
00:16
and I'm not talking about "Game of Thrones,"
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我指的不是《权力的游戏》,
而是现实生活中的一场闹剧,
00:19
but a horrifying, real-life drama
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它骇人听闻, 却有让人无法抵挡的强大吸引力。
00:22
that's proved too fascinating to turn off.
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00:25
It's a show produced by murderers
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这是一场由杀人凶手摄制,
而后通过网络在世界范围内传播的表演。
00:28
and shared around the world via the Internet.
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00:32
Their names have become familiar:
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受害者的姓名我们都很熟悉了:
00:34
James Foley, Steven Sotloff, David Haines, Alan Henning, Peter Kassig,
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James Foley, Steven Sotloff, David Haines, Alan Hennings, Peter Kassig,
00:41
Haruna Yukawa, Kenji Goto Jogo.
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Haruna Yukawa, Kenji Goto Jogo.
伊斯兰国对他们的处决
00:45
Their beheadings by the Islamic State
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00:47
were barbaric,
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是野蛮残暴的,
00:49
but if we think they were archaic,
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但如果我们以为这些刽子手
来自某个遥远、陈旧、不为人知的年代,
00:53
from a remote, obscure age,
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那就大错特错了。
00:56
then we're wrong.
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00:57
They were uniquely modern,
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事实上,他们是非常与时俱进的,
01:00
because the murderers acted knowing well
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因为他们的行为说明其深知
01:03
that millions of people would tune in to watch.
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无数人将会观看他们的视频。
01:07
The headlines called them savages and barbarians,
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新闻媒体将他们称作“野蛮人”,
因为屏幕上
01:11
because the image of one man overpowering another,
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一刀割喉以示征服的画面,
01:14
killing him with a knife to the throat,
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01:16
conforms to our idea of ancient, primitive practices,
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同我们对远古时期,原始行为的 想象相吻合,
而与现代文明和道德伦理完全相悖。
01:21
the polar opposite of our urban, civilized ways.
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01:26
We don't do things like that.
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我们绝不会做出类似的事情。
01:29
But that's the irony.
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但这恰恰是讽刺之处。
01:31
We think a beheading has nothing to do with us,
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我们以为就算点击观看了视频,
01:34
even as we click on the screen to watch.
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一场斩首处决也与自己毫不相干。
01:38
But it is to do with us.
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但事实并非如此。
01:41
The Islamic State beheadings
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这场伊斯兰国的公开斩首
并不是发生在遥远的古代,
01:44
are not ancient or remote.
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这是21世纪全球性的事件,
01:47
They're a global, 21st century event,
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它就在我们的客厅里,桌子上,
01:50
a 21st century event that takes place in our living rooms, at our desks,
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我们的电脑屏幕中发生着。
01:55
on our computer screens.
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01:57
They're entirely dependent on the power of technology to connect us.
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杀人凶手们完全依靠技术手段 与我们产生联系。
02:02
And whether we like it or not,
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无论我们是否情愿,
02:04
everyone who watches is a part of the show.
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每个观众都是这场表演的参与者。
02:09
And lots of people watch.
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而观众的人数相当可观。
02:13
We don't know exactly how many.
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我们没有确切的数据。
02:15
Obviously, it's difficult to calculate.
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显然这实在难以统计。
02:17
But a poll taken in the UK, for example, in August 2014,
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但通过2014年8月在伦敦的一项调查,
02:23
estimated that 1.2 million people
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可以粗略估算出 在对James Foley的处决视频
02:29
had watched the beheading of James Foley
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发布之后的短短几天内,
02:32
in the few days after it was released.
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已有约120万人观看。
02:36
And that's just the first few days,
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这还只是刚开始的几天内,
而且仅仅在英国。
02:39
and just Britain.
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02:41
A similar poll taken in the United States
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2014年11月
美国一项类似的调查表明,
02:44
in November 2014
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02:46
found that nine percent of those surveyed
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9%的受访者
02:49
had watched beheading videos,
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观看了斩首视频,
02:52
and a further 23 percent
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此外还有23%的人
02:54
had watched the videos but had stopped just before the death was shown.
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点开了视频, 但在受害者遇难前一刻退出了观看。
03:00
Nine percent may be a small minority of all the people who could watch,
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在所有可能观看的人中, 9%也许只是个很小的部分,
03:05
but it's still a very large crowd.
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但这个数字代表的 仍是十分庞大的人群。
03:08
And of course that crowd is growing all the time,
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并且人数还在不断增长,
03:11
because every week, every month,
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因为每周、每月,
03:13
more people will keep downloading and keep watching.
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都会有更多的人下载、观看。
03:18
If we go back 11 years,
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其实在11年前,
03:20
before sites like YouTube and Facebook were born,
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在YouTube、Facebook这样的网站 还没出现的时候,
就发生过类似的事情。
03:24
it was a similar story.
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03:25
When innocent civilians like Daniel Pearl,
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像Daniel Pearl,Nick Berg, Paul Johnson
这样的无辜平民被斩首时,
03:29
Nick Berg, Paul Johnson, were beheaded,
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相关视频在伊拉克战争期间 被发布了出来。
03:33
those videos were shown during the Iraq War.
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03:36
Nick Berg's beheading
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对Nick Berg的斩首视频
03:38
quickly became one of the most searched for items on the Internet.
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迅速成为了互联网上 搜索次数最多的条目之一。
03:44
Within a day, it was the top search term
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一天之内,就在Google, Lycos, Yahoo
这样的搜索引擎上登顶热搜榜。
03:47
across search engines like Google, Lycos, Yahoo.
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这些是Nick Berg被斩首后的一周内,
03:52
In the week after Nick Berg's beheading,
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03:55
these were the top 10 search terms in the United States.
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在美国排名前十的搜索项。
04:00
The Berg beheading video remained the most popular search term for a week,
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Berg的斩首录像占据了搜索榜榜首 整整一周,
04:05
and it was the second most popular search term for the whole month of May,
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还在整个五月份的 搜索统计中排在第二。
04:10
runner-up only to "American Idol."
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仅次于“美国偶像”。
04:14
The al-Qaeda-linked website that first showed Nick Berg's beheading
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最初发布Nick Berg斩首录像的 基地组织相关网站,
04:19
had to close down within a couple of days due to overwhelming traffic to the site.
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甚至还因难以负荷巨大的访问量 不得不关闭了两天。
04:25
One Dutch website owner said that his daily viewing figures
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一位荷兰的网站所有人表示,
04:29
rose from 300,000 to 750,000
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他的网站日访问量从30万 增加到了75万人次,
04:34
every time a beheading in Iraq was shown.
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每一次点击都意味着在伊拉克的处刑 又被播放了一次。
04:38
He told reporters 18 months later
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一年半后,他告诉记者
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that it had been downloaded many millions of times,
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该视频已被下载了数百万次,
这还只是一家网站的数据。
04:45
and that's just one website.
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04:47
A similar pattern was seen again and again
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伊拉克战争期间 其他的斩首录像公布之后,
发生的事情如出一辙。
04:50
when videos of beheadings were released during the Iraq War.
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04:56
Social media sites have made these images more accessible than ever before,
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社交媒体给这些影像的传播 带来了前所未有的便利,
05:01
but if we take another step back in history,
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可是倘若我们回顾更早的历史就会发现,
05:05
we'll see that it was the camera that first created a new kind of crowd
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在那段公开处刑被当做聚众狂欢的时期,
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in our history of beheadings as public spectacle.
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最先创造出一种新型“围观人群”的, 是照相机。
05:14
As soon as the camera appeared on the scene,
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1939年6月17日,
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a full lifetime ago on June 17, 1939,
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相机一登上历史舞台,
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it had an immediate and unequivocal effect.
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就立刻产生了显著的影响。
那一天, 第一支公开斩首的影像在法国诞生。
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That day, the first film of a public beheading was created in France.
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05:31
It was the execution, the guillotining, of a German serial killer, Eugen Weidmann,
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其内容是对德国籍连环杀手 Eugen Weidmann
在凡尔赛圣皮埃尔监狱外的 断头台上执行的处决。
05:37
outside the prison Saint-Pierre in Versailles.
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Weidmann was due to be executed at the crack of dawn,
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按当时的习惯,
Weidmann本应在凌晨被处死,
05:45
as was customary at the time,
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05:47
but his executioner was new to the job,
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但当天的行刑者是位新手,
他低估了自己 做好准备所需的时间。
05:50
and he'd underestimated how long it would take him to prepare.
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05:53
So Weidmann was executed at 4:30 in the morning,
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因此Weidmann在早晨4:30才被处决,
在六月的这个时间,
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by which time on a June morning,
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06:00
there was enough light to take photographs,
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已经有足够的日光来拍摄相片了。
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and a spectator in the crowd filmed the event,
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人群中一名观众瞒着当局,
对这一事件进行了摄像。
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unbeknownst to the authorities.
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同时还拍了几张照片,
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Several still photographs were taken as well,
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时至今日, 你仍然可以在网上找到这段影像,
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and you can still watch the film online today
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06:19
and look at the photographs.
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浏览这些照片。
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The crowd on the day of Weidmann's execution
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当天围观Weidmann处决的群众
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was called "unruly" and "disgusting" by the press,
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被媒体称作是 “难以控制的”和“令人作呕的”,
但这与如今能够一遍又一遍 研究这出情节,
06:30
but that was nothing compared to the untold thousands of people
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06:34
who could now study the action
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能够在每个细节处定格画面的
成百上千不知名的
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over and over again,
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06:38
freeze-framed in every detail.
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人们相比,简直不值一提。
06:43
The camera may have made these scenes more accessible than ever before,
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照相机或许能让公众更方便地 获得这些影像,
但这并不是唯一的影响因素。
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but it's not just about the camera.
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06:50
If we take a bigger leap back in history,
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再向前追溯一段更久远的历史,
我们会发现
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we'll see that for as long as there have been
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哪里有公开司法处刑和斩首,
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public judicial executions and beheadings,
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06:58
there have been the crowds to see them.
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哪里就有围观群众。
07:01
In London, as late as the early 19th century,
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在19世纪早期的伦敦,
一次绞刑的观众约有四五千人。
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there might be four or five thousand people to see a standard hanging.
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07:09
There could be 40,000 or 50,000 to see a famous criminal killed.
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倘若被处死的罪犯臭名昭著, 那么人数有可能增加到四五万。
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And a beheading, which was a rare event in England at the time,
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而在那时的英国,十分罕见的斩首
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attracted even more.
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则具有更大的吸引力。
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In May 1820,
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1820年5月,
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five men known as the Cato Street Conspirators
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五位“卡托街的阴谋家”
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were executed in London for plotting
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因密谋刺杀不列颠政府成员
在伦敦被处决。
07:31
to assassinate members of the British government.
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07:34
They were hung and then decapitated.
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他们先被绞死而后又被砍头。
场面惨不忍睹。
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It was a gruesome scene.
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五个罪犯的脑袋被轮流砍下 而后展示给围观者。
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Each man's head was hacked off in turn and held up to the crowd.
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07:44
And 100,000 people,
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有整整10万人
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that's 10,000 more than can fit into Wembley Stadium,
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前来观看, 比整个温布利球场可容纳的观众
07:50
had turned out to watch.
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还要多1万人。
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The streets were packed.
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一时间万人空巷。
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People had rented out windows and rooftops.
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有人向外出租 (看得见行刑台的)窗户和屋顶。
07:58
People had climbed onto carts and wagons in the street.
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有人爬上路边的马车。
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People climbed lamp posts.
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有人攀上街边的路灯。
还有的人 据说在行刑日拥挤的人群中丧生。
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People had been known to have died in the crush on popular execution days.
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08:10
Evidence suggests that throughout our history
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证据表明纵观公开行刑
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of public beheadings and public executions,
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与公开斩首的历史,
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the vast majority of the people who come to see
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绝大多数前来观看受刑的人
就算不是特别狂热, 也至少是持麻木的态度。
08:20
are either enthusiastic or, at best, unmoved.
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08:25
Disgust has been comparatively rare,
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极少有人觉得恶心、厌恶,
就算真的感到恶心和恐惧,
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and even when people are disgusted and are horrified,
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08:33
it doesn't always stop them from coming out all the same to watch.
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通常也并不妨碍他们加入围观人群。
08:38
Perhaps the most striking example
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有关人们看到砍头,
08:41
of the human ability to watch a beheading and remain unmoved
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却能保持无动于衷, 甚至感到还够不过瘾的
最典型的事件,
08:47
and even be disappointed
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08:49
was the introduction in France in 1792 of the guillotine,
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恐怕是在1792年的法国, 那架著名的斩首机器,
“断头台”的面世。
08:55
that famous decapitation machine.
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对于21世纪的我们,
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To us in the 21st century,
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09:00
the guillotine may seem like a monstrous contraption,
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断头台可能算得上是 骇人听闻的诡异装置,
09:04
but to the first crowds who saw it, it was actually a disappointment.
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但它却令它的第一批观众大失所望。
09:10
They were used to seeing long, drawn-out, torturous executions on the scaffold,
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他们已经习惯于观看行刑台上 持续长时间的折磨,
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where people were mutilated and burned and pulled apart slowly.
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看着人们被砍断手脚、 活活烧死、慢慢撕裂。
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To them, watching the guillotine in action,
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对他们而言,断头台上的演出
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it was so quick, there was nothing to see.
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结束得太快了,没什么好看的。
刀身下落,头颅掉进一只篮子 就立刻不见了踪影,
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The blade fell, the head fell into a basket, out of sight immediately,
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09:34
and they called out,
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于是他们喊道,
“还我们绞刑架!把木绞架抬回来!”
09:36
"Give me back my gallows, give me back my wooden gallows."
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09:41
The end of torturous public judicial executions in Europe and America
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欧美范围内残酷的 公开司法处刑的终结,
09:46
was partly to do with being more humane towards the criminal,
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一部分是出于对罪犯的人道主义关怀,
09:50
but it was also partly because the crowd obstinately refused to behave
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但同时也是因为围观人群的行为举止
着实太有悖常理和人性。
09:55
in the way that they should.
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09:57
All too often, execution day
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一而再,再而三的,
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was more like a carnival than a solemn ceremony.
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行刑日与其说是严肃的仪式, 不如说变成了狂欢节。
10:04
Today, a public judicial execution in Europe or America is unthinkable,
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今天,无论在欧洲还是美国, 一场公开处决已是不可想象的了,
10:09
but there are other scenarios that should make us cautious
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但我们仍然无法简单地认为
一切都不同了,
10:12
about thinking that things are different now
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这样的惨剧不会再重演了。
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and we don't behave like that anymore.
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10:17
Take, for example, the incidents of suicide baiting.
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我们不妨说说“诱导自杀”。
这指的是人们聚集起来
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This is when a crowd gathers
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to watch a person who has climbed to the top of a public building
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围观那些爬上高层公共建筑顶楼
企图自杀的人,
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in order to kill themselves,
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and people in the crowd shout and jeer,
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而人群中时常冒出
10:33
"Get on with it! Go on and jump!"
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“快点儿啊!”“跳下去啊!” 之类的叫嚷和嘲讽。
10:36
This is a well-recognized phenomenon.
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这种现象早就屡见不鲜了。
1981年的一篇论文指出, 每21起受到威胁的自杀行为中,
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One paper in 1981 found that in 10 out of 21 threatened suicide attempts,
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there was incidents of suicide baiting and jeering from a crowd.
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就有10起出现了人群中的讥笑, 也就是所谓的诱导自杀。
今年的报纸中也出现过相关报道。
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And there have been incidents reported in the press this year.
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10:56
This was a very widely reported incident
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这是今年3月在特尔福德和什罗普郡
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in Telford and Shropshire in March this year.
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被广泛报道的事件。
11:02
And when it happens today,
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这种情况发生在当今,
人们通常会掏出手机拍照、摄像,
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people take photographs and they take videos on their phones
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and they post those videos online.
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再把影像上传到网络。
11:12
When it comes to brutal murderers who post their beheading videos,
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类似的,当残暴的刽子手在网上传播 录制好的斩首视频,
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the Internet has created a new kind of crowd.
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互联网又创造了一批新的围观人群。
11:19
Today, the action takes place in a distant time and place,
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正因为这些事情发生在 触不可及的时间和地点,
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which gives the viewer a sense of detachment from what's happening,
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从而让观众产生了与之毫不相干的心理,
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a sense of separation.
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一种疏离感。
“这和我没有关系”。
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It's nothing to do with me.
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11:30
It's already happened.
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“这一切已经发生了”。
11:33
We are also offered an unprecedented sense of intimacy.
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同时我们还获得了前所未有的亲密感。
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Today, we are all offered front row seats.
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我们仿佛身处贵宾席。
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We can all watch in private, in our own time and space,
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能够在空闲时间、私人空间里独自观看,
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and no one need ever know that we've clicked on the screen to watch.
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并且没人知道我们到底浏览过什么。
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This sense of separation --
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这种疏离感——
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from other people, from the event itself --
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不论是与他人还是与事件本身——
11:53
seems to be key to understanding our ability to watch,
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似乎成了理解我们为何能够观看 这些残暴行径的关键,
而互联网通过
11:57
and there are several ways
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in which the Internet creates a sense of detachment
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产生疏离感而逐渐侵蚀
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that seems to erode individual moral responsibility.
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个人道德责任感的例子还有不少。
12:06
Our activities online are often contrasted with real life,
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我们在网上的行为举止 往往与现实生活反差巨大,
12:10
as though the things we do online are somehow less real.
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似乎互联网上的行为并不那么真实。
12:14
We feel less accountable for our actions
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在网上,我们会觉得不必
对自己的行为负责。
12:17
when we interact online.
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12:20
There's a sense of anonymity, a sense of invisibility,
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由于网络匿名带来的隐形感,
12:24
so we feel less accountable for our behavior.
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我们感到并不需要 为自己的言行负太多责任。
12:28
The Internet also makes it far easier to stumble upon things inadvertently,
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在网上也更容易发现一些
12:33
things that we would usually avoid in everyday life.
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真实生活中我们会尽力避免的东西。
现在,有些视频甚至在你还没意识到 在看什么的时候,就会开始播放。
12:37
Today, a video can start playing before you even know what you're watching.
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12:41
Or you may be tempted to look at material that you wouldn't look at in everyday life
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又或者我们会浏览平时不会去关注,
以及有旁人时不会去观看的内容。
12:46
or you wouldn't look at if you were with other people at the time.
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12:50
And when the action is pre-recorded
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于是,当整件事已经事先被拍摄,
并发生在遥远的时空距离之外,
12:53
and takes place in a distant time and space,
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观看貌似成为了一种被动行为。
12:57
watching seems like a passive activity.
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“我现在对此无能为力”。
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There's nothing I can do about it now.
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“这一切已经发生了”。
13:03
It's already happened.
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13:05
All these things make it easier as an Internet user
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所有这些都让作为 互联网用户的我们更轻易地
13:08
for us to give in to our sense of curiosity about death,
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屈从于自己对死亡的好奇,
拉低自己的个人道德底线,
13:12
to push our personal boundaries,
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去考验、去探究自己对冲击感的承受力。
13:15
to test our sense of shock, to explore our sense of shock.
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13:21
But we're not passive when we watch.
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然而事实上我们并非被动的观众。
13:23
On the contrary, we're fulfilling the murderer's desire to be seen.
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恰恰相反, 正是我们在满足杀人犯的表现欲。
斩首中受害者被绑住无力反抗的时候,
13:28
When the victim of a decapitation is bound and defenseless,
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13:32
he or she essentially becomes a pawn in their killer's show.
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他或她本质上 已经变成了刽子手的表演道具。
13:38
Unlike a trophy head that's taken in battle,
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传统战争中作为战利品砍下的头颅,
13:41
that represents the luck and skill it takes to win a fight,
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象征着胜者蒙受的上天眷顾 和超凡的战斗技能,
13:47
when a beheading is staged,
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与此不同的是, 当斩首作为表演被呈上舞台,
13:49
when it's essentially a piece of theater,
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当它已然成为一出戏剧,
这些罪犯的表演得到的反响, 正是操控力的来源。
13:52
the power comes from the reception the killer receives as he performs.
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13:58
In other words, watching is very much part of the event.
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换言之,观看行为实际上是 这一事件中相当关键的部分。
14:03
The event no longer takes place in a single location
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这件事不再如同以往 或是它今后仍将呈现出的那样,
14:07
at a certain point in time as it used to and as it may still appear to.
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仅仅发生在特定的时间与地点。
14:13
Now the event is stretched out in time and place,
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如今它在时空中得到了延伸,
使得每一位观众都变成参与者。
14:17
and everyone who watches plays their part.
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14:21
We should stop watching,
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我们真的应该拒绝观看。
14:24
but we know we won't.
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但我们知道自己做不到。
14:26
History tells us we won't,
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历史说我们做不到,
14:28
and the killers know it too.
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刽子手们也对此一清二楚。
14:31
Thank you.
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谢谢。
14:32
(Applause)
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(掌声)
布鲁诺 吉桑尼(BG): 谢谢。我来拿着这个吧。谢谢。
14:37
Bruno Giussani: Thank you. Let me get this back. Thank you.
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14:39
Let's move here. While they install for the next performance,
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我们往前站一些。 趁着工作人员准备下一场演讲,
14:42
I want to ask you the question that probably many here have,
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我想问一个可能在座很多人 都会好奇的问题,
14:45
which is how did you get interested in this topic?
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为什么你会对这个话题感兴趣呢?
14:50
Frances Larson: I used to work at a museum
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弗朗西斯 拉森 (FL): 我以前在一家博物馆工作,
14:52
called the Pitt Rivers Museum in Oxford,
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牛津的皮特河博物馆,
14:54
which was famous for its display of shrunken heads from South America.
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那里来自南美的头颅标本非常有名。
人们总说, “噢,头颅博物馆,头颅博物馆!”
14:58
People used to say, "Oh, the shrunken head museum, the shrunken head museum!"
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那时候我恰好在研究用于
15:02
And at the time, I was working on the history
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15:05
of scientific collections of skulls.
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科学方面的头骨收藏史。
15:07
I was working on the cranial collections,
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正当我研究这些颅骨藏品时,
15:10
and it just struck me as ironic
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我突然意识到一件讽刺的事,
15:12
that here were people coming to see this gory, primitive, savage culture
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人们到这儿来是想感受 他们可能在脑中构想过的
血腥、残忍的原始文明,
15:17
that they were almost fantasizing about and creating
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15:21
without really understanding what they were seeing,
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却从未真正理解他们眼前的展品,
15:24
and all the while these vast -- I mean hundreds of thousands
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而一直以来我们博物馆里那些
15:27
of skulls in our museums, all across Europe and the States --
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遍及欧美大陆的数以万计的头骨藏品——
从某种程度上说, 成为了推进思想启蒙运动的科学基础。
15:32
were kind of upholding this Enlightenment pursuit of scientific rationality.
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15:37
So I wanted to kind of twist it round and say, "Let's look at us."
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所以我希望能够调转人们的目光, 来“看看我们自己”。
15:42
We're looking through the glass case at these shrunken heads.
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我们和这些头颅标本一样, 都在透过玻璃罩子观察对方。
让我们开始省视自己的历史文化, 以及对这些事物的想象吧。
15:45
Let's look at our own history and our own cultural fascination with these things.
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15:49
BG: Thank you for sharing that.
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BG:感谢你的演讲。
15:51
FL: Thank you.
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FL:谢谢!
(掌声)
15:53
(Applause)
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