Miguel Nicolelis: A monkey that controls a robot with its thoughts. No, really.

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Translator: Timothy Covell Reviewer: Morton Bast
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翻译人员: Shibin Li 校对人员: Cho Lena
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The kind of neuroscience that I do and my colleagues do
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我和我同事们所从事的神经科学研究
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is almost like the weatherman.
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就像天气预报
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We are always chasing storms.
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我们总在追逐风暴
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We want to see and measure storms -- brainstorms, that is.
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我们想要观测的是头脑风暴
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And we all talk about brainstorms in our daily lives,
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平日里我们总在谈论头脑风暴
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but we rarely see or listen to one.
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但我们很少真正看到,或听到它
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So I always like to start these talks
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所以每当我谈到头脑风暴时
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by actually introducing you to one of them.
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总希望能先让你们真实体验一下
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Actually, the first time we recorded more than one neuron --
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实际上,这是我们第一次记录到多个神经细胞:
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a hundred brain cells simultaneously --
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同时观测100个脑细胞时
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we could measure the electrical sparks
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我们所测到的电火花
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of a hundred cells in the same animal,
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来自同一个动物的100个细胞
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this is the first image we got,
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我们第一次记录到的
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the first 10 seconds of this recording.
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就是这段录音的前10秒
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So we got a little snippet of a thought,
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我们撷取到了思想的一个小片段
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and we could see it in front of us.
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它就这样呈现在我们面前。
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I always tell the students
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我总是告诉学生们
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that we could also call neuroscientists some sort of astronomer,
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某种意义上讲,我们可以把神经学家叫做天文学家
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because we are dealing with a system
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因为我们所处理的这个系统
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that is only comparable in terms of number of cells
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包含数量巨大的细胞
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to the number of galaxies that we have in the universe.
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数量大到只有宇宙中的星系数量可以比拟
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And here we are, out of billions of neurons,
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现在,在数十亿计的神经元中
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just recording, 10 years ago, a hundred.
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我们可以记录到的,已经从10 年前的100个
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We are doing a thousand now.
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到了现在的1000个
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And we hope to understand something fundamental about our human nature.
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我们想理解人性的基础
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Because, if you don't know yet,
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因为,你可能不知道
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everything that we use to define what human nature is comes from these storms,
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我们用来确立人性的一切,都源于这些头脑风暴
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comes from these storms that roll over the hills and valleys of our brains
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这些席卷我们大脑沟回的风暴
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and define our memories, our beliefs,
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它确立了我们的记忆,信仰
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our feelings, our plans for the future.
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情感,以及我们的未来规划
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Everything that we ever do,
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我们所做的一切
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everything that every human has ever done, do or will do,
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每一个人曾经做,正在做和将要做的一切
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requires the toil of populations of neurons producing these kinds of storms.
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都基于大量的神经细胞工作所产生的这些风暴
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And the sound of a brainstorm, if you've never heard one,
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而头脑风暴的声音,如果你们没听过的话,
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is somewhat like this.
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就是这个样子的。
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You can put it louder if you can.
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需要的话,你们可以放大音量来听。
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My son calls this "making popcorn while listening to a badly-tuned A.M. station."
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我儿子说这就像"一边听着没调准的收音机,一边做爆米花"。
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This is a brain.
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这就是大脑。
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This is what happens when you route these electrical storms to a loudspeaker
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这是这些电风暴在扬声器中播放的声音。
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and you listen to a hundred brain cells firing,
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你可以听到一百个脑细胞同时开火的声音,
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your brain will sound like this -- my brain, any brain.
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你我的大脑听起来都像这样,任何大脑都如此。
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And what we want to do as neuroscientists in this time
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此时,作为神经学家,我们想做的
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is to actually listen to these symphonies, these brain symphonies,
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实际上就是欣赏这些交响乐,头脑的交响乐
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and try to extract from them the messages they carry.
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试着获取这其中承载的信息。
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In particular, about 12 years ago
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需要特别提一句的是,大概12 年前
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we created a preparation that we named brain-machine interfaces.
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我们创建了一个模式,我们把它叫做 脑-机 介面。
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And you have a scheme here that describes how it works.
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我可以在这里介绍一下它的工作原理。
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The idea is, let's have some sensors that listen to these storms, this electrical firing,
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想法就是,使用某些传感器,去聆听这些风暴,电风暴,
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and see if you can, in the same time that it takes
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我们能否与此同时
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for this storm to leave the brain and reach the legs or the arms of an animal --
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在这些风暴离开大脑达到动物四肢的
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about half a second --
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半秒左右的时间内
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let's see if we can read these signals,
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我们能否读取这些信号
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extract the motor messages that are embedded in it,
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将其中携带的运动信息提取出来
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translate it into digital commands
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转化成数字命令
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and send it to an artificial device
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并发送到人工设备上
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that will reproduce the voluntary motor wheel of that brain in real time.
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设备将同步做出大脑指令的动作
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And see if we can measure how well we can translate that message
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通过比较设备和动物身体所做的动作
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when we compare to the way the body does that.
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我们可以衡量这种“信息翻译”的准确程度
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And if we can actually provide feedback,
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如果我们可以提供反馈
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sensory signals that go back from this robotic, mechanical, computational actuator
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把大脑控制下的
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that is now under the control of the brain,
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人工机械执行器发出的信号
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back to the brain,
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再次传回大脑
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how the brain deals with that,
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大脑将如何处理
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of receiving messages from an artificial piece of machinery.
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这些从人工设备接收回的信息
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And that's exactly what we did 10 years ago.
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这就是我们 10 年前做的事情。
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We started with a superstar monkey called Aurora
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我们在一只名叫Aurora的猴子身上开始试验
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that became one of the superstars of this field.
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它现在已经成了这个领域的一个超级巨星了。
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And Aurora liked to play video games.
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Aurora喜欢玩电子游戏。
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As you can see here,
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就像你们现在看到的,
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she likes to use a joystick, like any one of us, any of our kids, to play this game.
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就像我们和我们的孩子一样,它喜欢用操纵杆玩这个游戏
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And as a good primate, she even tries to cheat before she gets the right answer.
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作为优秀的灵长类动物,找到正确答案前它甚至还会试着作弊
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So even before a target appears that she's supposed to cross
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它需要用操纵杆控制光标穿过目标
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with the cursor that she's controlling with this joystick,
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但在目标出现之前
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Aurora is trying to find the target, no matter where it is.
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Aurora就已经开始到处寻找目标了
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And if she's doing that,
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只要它这么做,
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because every time she crosses that target with the little cursor,
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当它每次操作光标穿过目标,
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she gets a drop of Brazilian orange juice.
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就可以得到一滴巴西橙汁。
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And I can tell you, any monkey will do anything for you
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我可以跟你们说,只需一小滴巴西橙汁,
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if you get a little drop of Brazilian orange juice.
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任何猴子都肯为你赴汤蹈火。
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Actually any primate will do that.
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这适用于任何灵长类动物。
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Think about that.
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想想吧。
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Well, while Aurora was playing this game, as you saw,
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玩你们看到的这种游戏
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and doing a thousand trials a day
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每天进行一千次判断
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and getting 97 percent correct and 350 milliliters of orange juice,
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达到 97%的正确率, 获得350 毫升橙汁奖励。
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we are recording the brainstorms that are produced in her head
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我们记录它大脑中产生的头脑风暴
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and sending them to a robotic arm
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将它们发送到一个机器手臂
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that was learning to reproduce the movements that Aurora was making.
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机械手臂学习如何重现Aurora正在进行的动作。
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Because the idea was to actually turn on this brain-machine interface
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因为我们的想法是开启 脑-机 介面
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and have Aurora play the game just by thinking,
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让Aurora通过思考就可以玩游戏
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without interference of her body.
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不需要肢体的加入
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Her brainstorms would control an arm
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它的头脑风暴将控制机械臂
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that would move the cursor and cross the target.
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机械臂移动光标穿过目标
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And to our shock, that's exactly what Aurora did.
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我们惊讶地发现,Aurora正是这么做的
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She played the game without moving her body.
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它玩游戏时,完全无需移动自己的身体
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So every trajectory that you see of the cursor now,
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你们目前看到的每一条光标轨迹
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this is the exact first moment she got that.
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都是来自它第一次做到这点的时候
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That's the exact first moment
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都来自那一刻
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a brain intention was liberated from the physical domains of a body of a primate
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一个意识可以被灵长类动物从物理意义的身体中解放出来
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and could act outside, in that outside world,
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可以通过控制人工设备
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just by controlling an artificial device.
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在外部世界进行动作
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And Aurora kept playing the game, kept finding the little target
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Aurora一直玩游戏,不断寻找目标
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and getting the orange juice that she wanted to get, that she craved for.
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并得到它渴望的橙汁
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Well, she did that because she, at that time, had acquired a new arm.
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那个时候,它已经获得了“新”手臂
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The robotic arm that you see moving here 30 days later,
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你们在这里看到机械手臂的动作
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after the first video that I showed to you,
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是在第一个视频的30天后录制的
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is under the control of Aurora's brain
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在Aurora的大脑的控制之下
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and is moving the cursor to get to the target.
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它正将光标移到目标
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And Aurora now knows that she can play the game with this robotic arm,
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Aurora现在知道,它可以用机械臂玩这个游戏,
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but she has not lost the ability to use her biological arms to do what she pleases.
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同时还可以随心所欲使用自己的生物手臂去干别的
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She can scratch her back, she can scratch one of us, she can play another game.
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用自己的手臂挠自己的背,可以挠我们,还可以玩另一个游戏
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By all purposes and means,
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总而言之
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Aurora's brain has incorporated that artificial device
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Aurora的大脑已经整合了这个人工设备
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as an extension of her body.
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作为它身体的延伸
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The model of the self that Aurora had in her mind
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Aurora意识里的自我已经扩展
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has been expanded to get one more arm.
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多出了一只手臂
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Well, we did that 10 years ago.
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这就是我们 10 多年所做的事
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Just fast forward 10 years.
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让我们快进随后的10 年
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Just last year we realized that you don't even need to have a robotic device.
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就在去年我们意识到,你甚至不需要有一个机械设备
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You can just build a computational body, an avatar, a monkey avatar.
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你可以只生成一个计算意义的身体,一个化身,猴子化身
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And you can actually use it for our monkeys to either interact with them,
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实际上,你就可以使用这个化身与猴子互动
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or you can train them to assume in a virtual world
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或者训练猴子,让它们学会在一个虚拟的世界中
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the first-person perspective of that avatar
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以化身的角度
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and use her brain activity to control the movements of the avatar's arms or legs.
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用大脑活动控制化身的肢体动作
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And what we did basically was to train the animals
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基本上,我们所做的就是训练动物
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to learn how to control these avatars
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学习如何控制这些化身
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and explore objects that appear in the virtual world.
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探索出现在虚拟世界中的对象
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And these objects are visually identical,
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这些对象看上去一样
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but when the avatar crosses the surface of these objects,
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但当化身穿过对象表面
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they send an electrical message that is proportional to the microtactile texture of the object
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对象就会发出与自身表面微结构触感对应的电信息
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that goes back directly to the monkey's brain,
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这些电信息直接返回猴子的大脑
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informing the brain what it is the avatar is touching.
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告诉大脑,化身触摸到了什么
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And in just four weeks, the brain learns to process this new sensation
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短短四个星期内,大脑就学会处理这种新的感觉
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and acquires a new sensory pathway -- like a new sense.
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并建立起了新的感官通路 — 就像一种新的感觉
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And you truly liberate the brain now
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现在你真正地解放了大脑
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because you are allowing the brain to send motor commands to move this avatar.
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因为可以让大脑发送运动命令来移动化身
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And the feedback that comes from the avatar is being processed directly by the brain
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同时来自化身的反馈可以直接通过大脑处理
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without the interference of the skin.
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无需皮肤的参与
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So what you see here is this is the design of the task.
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这里看到的是设计的任务
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You're going to see an animal basically touching these three targets.
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你将看到实验动物触摸这三个目标
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And he has to select one because only one carries the reward,
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但它只能选择其中一个,因为只有正确选中携带奖励的目标
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the orange juice that they want to get.
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才能获得它们想要的橙汁
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And he has to select it by touch using a virtual arm, an arm that doesn't exist.
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它必须使用并不实际存在的一只虚拟手臂触摸和选择
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And that's exactly what they do.
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它们就是这么做的
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This is a complete liberation of the brain
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这是对大脑的彻底解放
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from the physical constraints of the body and the motor in a perceptual task.
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从实际身体的限制中获得解放,完成知觉任务
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The animal is controlling the avatar to touch the targets.
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这只实验动物正控制化身去触摸目标
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And he's sensing the texture by receiving an electrical message directly in the brain.
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它通过大脑直接接收电信息来感觉纹理
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And the brain is deciding what is the texture associated with the reward.
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大脑判断哪种纹理会带来奖励
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The legends that you see in the movie don't appear for the monkey.
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猴子看不见这个视频上的标示
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And by the way, they don't read English anyway,
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顺便说一句,反正它们也不懂英语
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so they are here just for you to know that the correct target is shifting position.
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这里的标示只是为了显示,正确的目标始终在变换位置
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And yet, they can find them by tactile discrimination,
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然而,动物仍然可以通过触感的区别
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and they can press it and select it.
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找到并选择它
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So when we look at the brains of these animals,
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所以,当我们看看这些动物的大脑
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on the top panel you see the alignment of 125 cells
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上方的图像中,你可以看到125个神经细胞的排列
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showing what happens with the brain activity, the electrical storms,
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显示当动物使用操纵杆时
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of this sample of neurons in the brain
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大脑的活动
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when the animal is using a joystick.
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产生的电风暴的情况
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And that's a picture that every neurophysiologist knows.
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这是每个神经生物学家都熟知的图像
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The basic alignment shows that these cells are coding for all possible directions.
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神经元的排列方式显示这些细胞正在编码所有的可能方向
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The bottom picture is what happens when the body stops moving
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下面的图像是在身体停止移动
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and the animal starts controlling either a robotic device or a computational avatar.
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实验动物开始控制机械设备或者计算化身时的情况
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As fast as we can reset our computers,
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就像我们重置电脑一样快
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the brain activity shifts to start representing this new tool,
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大脑的活动发生变化,开始表达这个新工具
09:49
as if this too was a part of that primate's body.
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就像新工具本来就是这个灵长类动物身体的一部分一样
09:54
The brain is assimilating that too, as fast as we can measure.
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大脑以最快速度同化了它
09:59
So that suggests to us that our sense of self
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这说明,我们的感觉本身
10:03
does not end at the last layer of the epithelium of our bodies,
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并不会中止于身体的最外层皮肤
10:07
but it ends at the last layer of electrons of the tools that we're commanding with our brains.
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而是中止于我们大脑控制的,最终端的设备工具
10:12
Our violins, our cars, our bicycles, our soccer balls, our clothing --
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我们的小提琴、汽车、自行车、足球、衣服等等
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they all become assimilated by this voracious, amazing, dynamic system called the brain.
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它们都被这个称作大脑的,贪婪而令人惊叹的动态系统同化了
10:24
How far can we take it?
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我们还能走得更远么?
10:26
Well, in an experiment that we ran a few years ago, we took this to the limit.
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在前几年的实验中,我们达到了新的高度
10:30
We had an animal running on a treadmill
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我们曾让一只实验动物
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at Duke University on the East Coast of the United States,
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在美国东海岸杜克大学的跑步机上运动
10:35
producing the brainstorms necessary to move.
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产生运动所需要的头脑风暴
10:37
And we had a robotic device, a humanoid robot,
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同时,我们有了人形机器人设备
10:42
in Kyoto, Japan at ATR Laboratories
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放置在日本京都 ATR 实验室
10:44
that was dreaming its entire life to be controlled by a brain,
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机器人一生的梦想就是
10:50
a human brain, or a primate brain.
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获得一个人类或其它灵长类动物的大脑指令
10:53
What happens here is that the brain activity that generated the movements in the monkey
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猴子大脑的活动发出运动指令
10:58
was transmitted to Japan and made this robot walk
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传到日本,并且控制这个机器人的行走
11:01
while footage of this walking was sent back to Duke,
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行走的镜头被发送回杜克
11:05
so that the monkey could see the legs of this robot walking in front of her.
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所以,猴子能看到机器人的双腿就在眼前行走
11:11
So she could be rewarded, not by what her body was doing
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它因此获得奖励,但并不是因为它自己身体的动作
11:15
but for every correct step of the robot on the other side of the planet
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而是来源于地球另一端的机器人
11:20
controlled by her brain activity.
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在它大脑活动控制下正确走的每一步
11:22
Funny thing, that round trip around the globe took 20 milliseconds less
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有趣的是,这个环绕地球的往返行程
11:29
than it takes for that brainstorm to leave its head, the head of the monkey,
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比猴子的头脑风暴离开大脑
11:34
and reach its own muscle.
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达到其本身的肌肉所花的时间还要短20毫秒
11:37
The monkey was moving a robot that was six times bigger, across the planet.
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这只猴子正在移动地球另一端一个六倍于它身体的机器人
11:43
This is one of the experiments in which that robot was able to walk autonomously.
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这就是机器人自主行走的实验之一
11:50
This is CB1 fulfilling its dream in Japan
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这是 CB1 正在在日本
11:55
under the control of the brain activity of a primate.
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在灵长类动物大脑活动的控制下,完成自己的梦想
11:59
So where are we taking all this?
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我们所谈的所有这一切是为了什么?
12:01
What are we going to do with all this research,
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除了学习我们双耳间的这个动态宇宙,
12:03
besides studying the properties of this dynamic universe that we have between our ears?
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这项研究还可以用来做什么?
12:09
Well the idea is to take all this knowledge and technology
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我们的想法是,使用所有的这些知识和技术
12:14
and try to restore one of the most severe neurological problems that we have in the world.
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尝试解决世界上最严重的神经问题。
12:19
Millions of people have lost the ability to translate these brainstorms
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数以百万计的人失去了将头脑风暴
12:24
into action, into movement.
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翻译成动作,翻译成运动的能力。
12:26
Although their brains continue to produce those storms and code for movements,
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虽然他们的大脑还在产生这些风暴,为运动编码,
12:31
they cannot cross a barrier that was created by a lesion on the spinal cord.
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但他们无法跨越脊髓病变所制造的障碍。
12:36
So our idea is to create a bypass,
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所以我们的理念是绕道而行,
12:39
is to use these brain-machine interfaces to read these signals,
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用 脑-机 介面来读取这些信号,
12:43
larger-scale brainstorms that contain the desire to move again,
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放大这些携带重新运动愿望的头脑风暴,
12:47
bypass the lesion using computational microengineering
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利用计算机微工程绕过病变
12:51
and send it to a new body, a whole body called an exoskeleton,
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将它发送到一个新身体,一个可以称为外骨骼的完整身体
12:58
a whole robotic suit that will become the new body of these patients.
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这个完整的机器人设备,将成为这些患者的全新躯体。
13:03
And you can see an image produced by this consortium.
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你们眼前的这个图景
13:08
This is a nonprofit consortium called the Walk Again Project
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由一个叫做“再次行走项目”的非营利组织制作
13:12
that is putting together scientists from Europe,
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这个组织聚集了来自欧洲,
13:14
from here in the United States, and in Brazil
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美国和巴西的科学家,
13:16
together to work to actually get this new body built --
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为构建这个全新躯体而共同努力。
13:21
a body that we believe, through the same plastic mechanisms
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我们相信,与Aurora和其它猴子在 脑-机 介面中
13:24
that allow Aurora and other monkeys to use these tools through a brain-machine interface
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所使用的相同的合成设备
13:30
and that allows us to incorporate the tools that we produce and use in our daily life.
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我们可以把它们整合并应用于日常生活
13:36
This same mechanism, we hope, will allow these patients,
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通过同样的合成设备,我们希望,能让这些病人
13:39
not only to imagine again the movements that they want to make
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不仅能够把他们想要做的动作
13:43
and translate them into movements of this new body,
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翻译成新身体的动作
13:46
but for this body to be assimilated as the new body that the brain controls.
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同时还可以与这个大脑控制的新身体完美融合
13:53
So I was told about 10 years ago
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10 年前,别人告诉我
13:57
that this would never happen, that this was close to impossible.
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这是痴人说梦,几乎是不可能的。
14:02
And I can only tell you that as a scientist,
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作为一个科学家,我只能告诉你
14:04
I grew up in southern Brazil in the mid-'60s
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60年代中期,我在巴西南部长大
14:07
watching a few crazy guys telling [us] that they would go to the Moon.
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看着几个疯狂的家伙告诉 [我们] 说他们会去月球。
14:12
And I was five years old,
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那时我五岁
14:14
and I never understood why NASA didn't hire Captain Kirk and Spock to do the job;
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我想不通美国国家航空航天局(NASA)为什么不雇柯克船长和斯波克(电影《星际迷航》中的两个著名角色)去登月。
14:18
after all, they were very proficient --
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毕竟,这方面他们才是专家。
14:20
but just seeing that as a kid
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但儿时所见的这一切
14:24
made me believe, as my grandmother used to tell me,
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令我相信,我祖母曾经告诉过我的话
14:27
that "impossible is just the possible
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"所有不可能其实都是可能的,
14:29
that someone has not put in enough effort to make it come true."
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只是人们还没有付出足够的努力让它们成真。"
14:33
So they told me that it's impossible to make someone walk.
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所以,当有人告诉我,让一个人恢复行走能力是不可能的时候。
14:36
I think I'm going to follow my grandmother's advice.
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我觉得我还是会相信我祖母的建议。
14:40
Thank you.
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谢谢。
14:41
(Applause)
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