Danny Hillis: The Internet could crash. We need a Plan B

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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翻译人员: Gang Hu 校对人员: Gao Begon
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So, this book that I have in my hand
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呃,我手里的这本书
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is a directory of everybody who had an email address
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是1982年所有拥有电邮地址的人的通讯录。
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in 1982. (Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Actually, it's deceptively large.
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它看起来很大,其实不然。
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There's actually only about 20 people on each page,
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这本通讯录实际上每页只记录了大约20个人,
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because we have the name, address
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因为我们每一个人都有自己的姓名,
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and telephone number of every single person.
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地址和电话号码。
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And, in fact, everybody's listed twice,
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同时,每个人的信息都出现了两次,
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because it's sorted once by name and once by email address.
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因为有两种排序方式:根据名字和根据电子邮件地址。
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Obviously a very small community.
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当然这是个很小的社区。
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There were only two other Dannys on the Internet then.
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当时,互联网上只有另外两个名字也叫丹尼的人。
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I knew them both.
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他们两个我都认识。
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We didn't all know each other,
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虽然我们彼此之间并不全都认识,
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but we all kind of trusted each other,
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但是我们互相信任,
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and that basic feeling of trust
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这种基本的信任感
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permeated the whole network,
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充满了整个网络,
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and there was a real sense that
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并且大家可以感觉到
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we could depend on each other to do things.
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我们能彼此信赖的去完成一些事情。
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So just to give you an idea of the level of trust in this community,
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因此,为了让你们能体会到当时该社区的那种信任程度,
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let me tell you what it was like
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下面让我来告诉你在早期
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to register a domain name in the early days.
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是如何注册域名的。
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Now, it just so happened that I got to register
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现在,假象我我刚注册了
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the third domain name on the Internet.
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我的第三个互联网域名。
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So I could have anything I wanted
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于是我可以起任何我想要的名字作为域名,
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other than bbn.com and symbolics.com.
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除了"bbn.com"和"symbolics.com"之外。
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So I picked think.com, but then I thought,
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于是我注册了"think.com",但是我又想,
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you know, there's a lot of really interesting names out there.
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除此之外还有很多有趣的域名。
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Maybe I should register a few extras just in case.
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也许我应该多注册几个以备不时之需。
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And then I thought, "Nah, that wouldn't be very nice."
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我又想:“呐,这样不太好吧。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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That attitude of only taking what you need
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在那时,这种只取己需的态度
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was really what everybody had on the network in those days,
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在网络上几乎人人拥有,
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and in fact, it wasn't just the people on the network,
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而且事实上,不仅仅是使用网络的人有这种态度
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but it was actually kind of built into the protocols
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这种态度也植根于
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of the Internet itself.
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互联网协议自身。
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So the basic idea of I.P., or Internet protocol,
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所以,I.P.,或者互联网协议的基本思想,
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and the way that the -- the routing algorithm that used it,
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以及路由算法用到的工作方式,
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were fundamentally "from each according to their ability,
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从根本上来说是“各尽其能
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to each according to their need."
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各取所需。”
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And so, if you had some extra bandwidth,
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因此,如果你有额外的带宽,
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you'd deliver a message for someone.
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你代别人发送信息。
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If they had some extra bandwidth, they would deliver a message for you.
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如果他们也有额外的带宽,他们也可以代你发送信息。
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You'd kind of depend on people to do that,
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你将会逐渐依靠于他人才能来完成信息的交换,
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and that was the building block.
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而这就是构建的基石。
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It was actually interesting that such a communist principle
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有趣的是,虽然这样一个共产原则
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was the basis of a system developed during the Cold War
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居然是国防部在冷战期间开发的一个
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by the Defense Department,
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系统的核心,
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but it obviously worked really well,
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而很明显它的效果非常好,
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and we all saw what happened with the Internet.
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我们已经目睹了互联网发生的一切。
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It was incredibly successful.
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毋庸置疑,非常的成功。
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In fact, it was so successful that there's no way
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实际上,互联网如此成功,以至于如今你不可能
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that these days you could make a book like this.
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出版这样一本通讯录了。
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My rough calculation is it would be about 25 miles thick.
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我粗略计算,如果这本书出版出来将会有25英尺厚。
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But, of course, you couldn't do it,
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当然,你也做不不出来,
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because we don't know the names of all the people
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因为我们不知道所有上网人的名字,
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with Internet or email addresses,
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或者电子邮件地址,
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and even if we did know their names,
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即使我们知道他们的名字,
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I'm pretty sure that they would not want their name,
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我确信他们也不愿意将他们的名字,
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address and telephone number published to everyone.
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地址和电话号码公诸于众。
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So the fact is that there's a lot of bad guys on the Internet these days,
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事实是当今在互联网上有很多坏人,
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and so we dealt with that by making
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我们的应对方法是建立一个
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walled communities,
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封闭的社区,
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secure subnetworks, VPNs,
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安全子网,虚拟私有网,
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little things that aren't really the Internet
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以及类似于因特网但又不是因特网的工具,
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but are made out of the same building blocks,
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虽然他们拥有相同的构建原理,
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but we're still basically building it out of those
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但是我们构建他们并不完全照搬因特网的构建基本原理,
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same building blocks with those same assumptions of trust.
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而是基于与因特网一样,对信任的假设。
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And that means that it's vulnerable
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这意味着这种网络易受到
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to certain kinds of mistakes that can happen,
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某种可能发生的某种错误的干扰
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or certain kinds of deliberate attacks,
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以及受某种蓄意的攻击,
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but even the mistakes can be bad.
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但是即使是错误,也会很麻烦。
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So, for instance,
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例如,
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in all of Asia recently,
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最近在亚洲的所有地区,
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it was impossible to get YouTube for a little while
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有一小段时间不能访问YouTube
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because Pakistan made some mistakes
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是因为巴基斯坦在其内部网络审查YouTube的方法上
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in how it was censoring YouTube in its internal network.
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犯了一些错误。
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They didn't intend to screw up Asia, but they did
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他们无意于在亚洲墙掉Youtube,但由于的协议工作方式,
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because of the way that the protocols work.
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他们确实短时间内阻断了Youtube。
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Another example that may have affected many of you in this audience is,
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另一个可能会影响很多在座听众的例子是,
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you may remember a couple of years ago,
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你可能还记得在数年前,
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all the planes west of the Mississippi were grounded
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密西西比州西部的所有飞机停航了,
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because a single routing card in Salt Lake City
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是因为盐湖城的一个路由卡
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had a bug in it.
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出现了问题。
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Now, you don't really think
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你当然不会认为
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that our airplane system depends on the Internet,
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飞机系统依赖于因特网,
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and in some sense it doesn't.
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在某种意义上它确实不依靠因特网。
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I'll come back to that later.
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稍后我会再谈到这一点。
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But the fact is that people couldn't take off
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事实是人们不能起飞,
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because something was going wrong on the Internet,
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是因为互联网出了某种问题,
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and the router card was down.
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路由卡宕机了。
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And so, there are many of those things that start to happen.
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许多类似的事情在不断的发生。
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Now, there was an interesting thing that happened last April.
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去年四月发生了一件有趣的事情。
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All of a sudden,
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突然,
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a very large percentage of the traffic on the whole Internet,
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整个互联网上相当大量的流量,
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including a lot of the traffic between U.S. military installations,
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包括美国军方网络的很多流量,
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started getting re-routed through China.
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开始通过中国改道发送。
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So for a few hours, it all passed through China.
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在数小时内,这些流量经由中国。
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Now, China Telecom says it was just an honest mistake,
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中国电信声称这并非有意为之,
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and it is actually possible that it was, the way things work,
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很可能确实如此,事实就是这样
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but certainly somebody could make
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但毫无疑问的是如果有人
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a dishonest mistake of that sort if they wanted to,
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蓄意这样做,那也很容易。
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and it shows you how vulnerable the system is even to mistakes.
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这表明在面临错误时,系统是如何脆弱。
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Imagine how vulnerable the system is to deliberate attacks.
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顾设想面临蓄意攻击时,系统该是多么脆弱啊。
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So if somebody really wanted to attack the United States
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现在,如果有人蓄意攻击美国
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or Western civilization these days,
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或者西方社会,
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they're not going to do it with tanks.
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他们不会采用坦克。
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That will not succeed.
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当然这样做也不会成功。
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What they'll probably do is something
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他们可能采取的行动
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very much like the attack that happened
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会非常类似于针对伊朗核设施
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on the Iranian nuclear facility.
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发动的攻击。
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Nobody has claimed credit for that.
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没有人会声称对此负责。
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There was basically a factory of industrial machines.
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基本上那只是一个制造工业机器的工厂。
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It didn't think of itself as being on the Internet.
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它自己不会认为自己在互联网上。
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It thought of itself as being disconnected from the Internet,
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它自己认为自己是与互联网隔离的,
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but it was possible for somebody to smuggle
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但是有可能有人
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a USB drive in there, or something like that,
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偷偷带进了一个U盘或类似U盘的东西,
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and software got in there that causes the centrifuges,
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和软件潜入工厂,让工厂里的离心分离机
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in that case, to actually destroy themselves.
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自毁。
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Now that same kind of software could destroy an oil refinery
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由于当今有类似的软件可以摧毁一家炼油厂,
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or a pharmaceutical factory or a semiconductor plant.
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制药厂,或者半导体工厂。
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And so there's a lot of -- I'm sure you've read a lot in papers,
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所以人们不免有许多--我相信你们在报纸上也看了很多,
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about worries about cyberattacks
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有关网络攻击
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and defenses against those.
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和对网络攻击的防御的担忧.
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But the fact is, people are mostly focused on
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但事实上,人们主要着眼于
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defending the computers on the Internet,
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联网电脑的保护,
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and there's been surprisingly little attention
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反而极少关注
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to defending the Internet itself as a communications medium.
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作为通讯介质的互联网本身的保护。
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And I think we probably do need to pay
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我认为我们需要更多的
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some more attention to that, because it's actually kind of fragile.
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关注这一点,因为互联网是脆弱的。
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So actually, in the early days,
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事实上,在早期,
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back when it was the ARPANET,
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在阿帕网年代,
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there were actually times -- there was a particular time it failed completely
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事实上确实有发生过一次整个网络完全宕掉了一段时间的情况,
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because one single message processor
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原因是某个单一信息处理器
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actually got a bug in it.
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有问题。
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And the way the Internet works is
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互联网的工作方式是
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the routers are basically exchanging information
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路由器交换的讯息从根本上来说
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about how they can get messages to places,
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是关于它们如何将信息发送到指定的位置,
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and this one processor, because of a broken card,
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因为一张坏卡,这个处理器
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decided it could actually get a message
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认为它实际上可以在负时间内
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to some place in negative time.
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将信息送到某地方。
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So, in other words, it claimed it could deliver a message before you sent it.
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换句话说,它声称它可以在接收一条信息之前就发送。
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So of course, the fastest way to get a message anywhere
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因此,显然,最快的接收任何地方信息的方式就是
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was to send it to this guy,
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将信息发给这个处理器,
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who would send it back in time and get it there super early,
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他会及时地送回并且超早地送达,
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so every message in the Internet
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因此互联网上的每条信息
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started getting switched through this one node,
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开始通过这个节点交换,
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and of course that clogged everything up.
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理所当然的会堵塞。
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Everything started breaking.
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一切开始中断。
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The interesting thing was, though,
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尽管如此,有趣的是,
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that the sysadmins were able to fix it,
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系统管理员可以解决这个问题,
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but they had to basically turn every single thing on the Internet off.
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但是基本上他们必须关掉所有的互联网。
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Now, of course you couldn't do that today.
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当然现在不可能这样做。
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I mean, everything off, it's like
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我的意思是,关掉一切,有点像
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the service call you get from the cable company,
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整个世界你只接得到
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except for the whole world.
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有线电视公司打给你的服务电话。
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Now, in fact, they couldn't do it for a lot of reasons today.
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现在,事实上,由于一些原因,他们不能做到这一点。
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One of the reasons is a lot of their telephones
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其中一个原因是他们的电话
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use IP protocol and use things like Skype and so on
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采用IP协议,并且使用像Skype之类的
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that go through the Internet right now,
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通过互联网通讯的工具,
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and so in fact we're becoming dependent on it
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事实上,我们越来越依赖于它,
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for more and more different things,
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去做越来越多不同的事情,
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like when you take off from LAX,
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比如,当你当你从洛杉矶起飞,
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you're really not thinking you're using the Internet.
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你不会认为你在使用互联网。
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When you pump gas, you really don't think you're using the Internet.
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当你加气时,你也不会认为你在使用互联网。
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What's happening increasingly, though, is these systems
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但是,渐渐发生的却是这些系统
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are beginning to use the Internet.
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开始逐渐使用互联网。
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Most of them aren't based on the Internet yet,
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大部分还不是基于互联网,
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but they're starting to use the Internet for service functions,
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但是他们开始使用互联网类提供服务功能,
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for administrative functions,
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和行政功能,
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and so if you take something like the cell phone system,
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因此如果你需要类似于电话系统的东西,
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which is still relatively independent of the Internet for the most part,
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它现在大部分仍然相对的独立于互联网,
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Internet pieces are beginning to sneak into it
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互联网势力正在开始以一些控制和行政
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in terms of some of the control and administrative functions,
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功能的方式侵入电话系统,
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and it's so tempting to use these same building blocks
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而且基于同样构建的网络手机系统显得是那么的诱人,
08:36
because they work so well, they're cheap,
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因为他们运作良好,廉价,
08:39
they're repeated, and so on.
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他们可以重复,等等。
08:40
So all of our systems, more and more,
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因此我们的系统,越来越多地,
08:43
are starting to use the same technology
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开始使用相同的技术
08:44
and starting to depend on this technology.
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并且开始依赖于这种技术。
08:46
And so even a modern rocket ship these days
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因此即使是现代装备火箭的船舰
08:49
actually uses Internet protocol to talk
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如今也事实上使用互联网协议
08:52
from one end of the rocket ship to the other.
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与其他的舰船联系。
08:53
That's crazy. It was never designed to do things like that.
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这太疯狂了。互联网最初的设计宗旨肯定不是这个。
08:57
So we've built this system
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所以我们建造了这个系统,
09:00
where we understand all the parts of it,
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我们虽然了解这个系统的所有部分,
09:03
but we're using it in a very, very different way than we expected to use it,
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但是我们以一种不同于预期的非常不同的方式在使用它,
09:06
and it's gotten a very, very different scale
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而它的规模也与设计
09:09
than it was designed for.
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大相径庭。
09:11
And in fact, nobody really exactly understands
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事实上,没有人真正完全了解
09:14
all the things it's being used for right now.
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所有这些如今使用的东西。
09:16
It's turning into one of these big emergent systems
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它正在成为像财政系统这么大的一个应急系统,
09:19
like the financial system, where we've designed all the parts
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在这个应急系统中我们已经设计好所有部分,
09:22
but nobody really exactly understands
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但没有人真正了解
09:25
how it operates and all the little details of it
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它的运作方式,它的所有细节,
09:28
and what kinds of emergent behaviors it can have.
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以及它能有怎样的应急行为。
09:31
And so if you hear an expert talking about the Internet
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所以,如果你听到一个专家谈论互联网,
09:34
and saying it can do this, or it does do this, or it will do that,
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提起它能做这个,它这样做或者它将会做什么,
09:36
you should treat it with the same skepticism
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你应该持怀疑态度,
09:39
that you might treat the comments of an economist about the economy
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就像你怀疑一个经济学家对经济的评论
09:43
or a weatherman about the weather, or something like that.
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怀疑一个气象员的天气播报,等类似的行为一样。
09:46
They have an informed opinion,
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虽然这些专家们见多识广,
09:48
but it's changing so quickly that even the experts
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但是互联网发展得如此迅速,以至于专家们
09:51
don't know exactly what's going on.
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也不能确切地知道将会发生了什么事。
09:53
So if you see one of these maps of the Internet,
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所以如果你看到一些互联网宏图,
09:55
it's just somebody's guess.
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它们只是某人的猜测而已。
09:57
Nobody really knows what the Internet is right now
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没人真正知道互联网如今是什么,
09:59
because it's different than it was an hour ago.
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因为它每个小时都不一样,
10:02
It's constantly changing. It's constantly reconfiguring.
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它在不断的在变化,不断的在重新配置。
10:05
And the problem with it is,
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而问题在于,
10:06
I think we are setting ourselves up for a kind of disaster
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我认为,我们正在将我们自己置于类似于
10:09
like the disaster we had in the financial system,
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金融风暴那样的灾难之上,
10:12
where we take a system that's basically built on trust,
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在金融系统中我们采用了一个基于信任建立的系统,
10:18
was basically built for a smaller-scale system,
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该系统只是一个小规模的系统,
10:20
and we've kind of expanded it way beyond the limits
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我们已经扩展了该系统,且超出了
10:23
of how it was meant to operate.
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该系统运作的极限。
10:25
And so right now, I think it's literally true
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因此,我认为,
10:28
that we don't know what the consequences
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我们不知道互联网
10:32
of an effective denial-of-service attack
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收到一个有效的拒绝服务攻击的
10:34
on the Internet would be,
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后果将会如何,
10:36
and whatever it would be is going to be worse next year,
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而无论如何变化,它将会变得更糟,再过一年
10:38
and worse next year, and so on.
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会更加糟糕,年复一年,越来越糟。
10:39
But so what we need is a plan B.
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于是就是我们需要一个B计划。
10:42
There is no plan B right now.
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但是目前没有B计划。
10:44
There's no clear backup system that we've very carefully kept
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不存在一个我们谨慎的让它独立于互联网之外的
10:47
to be independent of the Internet,
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明确的备份系统,
10:49
made out of completely different sets of building blocks.
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该系统是由完全不同的构件所建立。
10:52
So what we need is something that doesn't necessarily
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因此我们需要的系统并不一定
10:55
have to have the performance of the Internet,
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必须有因特网的功能,
10:58
but the police department has to be able
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但是,即使在没有互联网的情况下,
10:59
to call up the fire department even without the Internet,
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警察部门必须能够呼叫消防部门,
11:02
or the hospitals have to order fuel oil.
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或者医院可以订购燃油。
11:04
This doesn't need to be a multi-billion-dollar government project.
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这不是那种花费数十亿美金的政府项目。
11:09
It's actually relatively simple to do, technically,
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从技术上讲,这个项目非常简单,
11:12
because it can use existing fibers that are in the ground,
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因为他可以利用地下已有的无线基础架构-
11:16
existing wireless infrastructure.
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光纤。
11:18
It's basically a matter of deciding to do it.
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这不过是个简单的决定。
11:20
But people won't decide to do it
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但是直到人民意识到真正的需要,
11:23
until they recognize the need for it,
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才会决定去做,
11:25
and that's the problem that we have right now.
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这就是现在的问题所在。
11:27
So there's been plenty of people,
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因此大量的人,
11:30
plenty of us have been quietly arguing
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大量的专家们多年来一直在静静地争论
11:33
that we should have this independent system for years,
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我们应该有这么一套独立的系统,
11:35
but it's very hard to get people focused on plan B
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但很难让人们在互联网运行良好时,
11:38
when plan A seems to be working so well.
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去关注B计划。
11:42
So I think that, if people understand
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因此我认为,如果人们认识到
11:46
how much we're starting to depend on the Internet,
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我们逐渐有多么地依赖互联网,
11:49
and how vulnerable it is,
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互联网是多么的脆弱,
11:51
we could get focused on
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我们能够着眼于
11:53
just wanting this other system to exist,
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希望这样的系统存在,
11:56
and I think if enough people say, "Yeah, I would like to use it,
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并且我认为,如果足够多的人说:”是的,我想使用它,
11:59
I'd like to have such a system," then it will get built.
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我愿意有这样一个系统”,它就会得以建立。
12:02
It's not that hard a problem.
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这不是一个难题,
12:03
It could definitely be done by people in this room.
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甚至可以由在座的某位完成。
12:06
And so I think that this is actually,
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因此我认为,实际上,
12:11
of all the problems you're going to hear about at the conference,
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在会议上将会听到的所有问题,
12:14
this is probably one of the very easiest to fix.
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极有可能存在一种非常容易的解决方案。
12:17
So I'm happy to get a chance to tell you about it.
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我很高兴有机会告诉你们这一点。
12:19
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢。
12:22
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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