Jonathan Harris: The web as art

Prevodilac: Sandra Gojic Lektor: Ivana Korom

So I'm going to talk today about collecting stories

Dakle, danas ću da pričam o sakupljanju priča

in some unconventional ways.

na neke neuobičajene načine.

This is a picture of me from a very awkward stage in my life.

Ovo je slika mene u veoma čudnoj životnoj fazi.

You might enjoy the awkwardly tight, cut-off pajama bottoms with balloons.

Možda ćete uživati u čudesno uskom, odsečenom donjem delu pidžame, sa balonima.

Anyway, it was a time when I was mainly interested

U svakom slučaju, to je bilo vreme kada sam uglavnom bio zainteresovan

in collecting imaginary stories.

za sakupljanje izmišljenih priča.

So this is a picture of me

Dakle, ovo je slika mene

holding one of the first watercolor paintings I ever made.

kako držim jedan od svojih prvih akvarela.

And recently I've been much more interested in collecting stories

Od nedavno sam mnogo više zainteresovan za sakupljanje realnih priča

from reality -- so, real stories.

- dakle, stvarnih životnih priča.

And specifically, I'm interested in collecting my own stories,

A naročito sam zainteresovan za sakupljanje ličnih priča,

stories from the Internet, and then recently, stories from life,

priča sa interneta i od skora, priča iz života

which is kind of a new area of work that I've been doing recently.

što je neka nova vrsta posla kojim se bavim od skora.

So I'll be talking about each of those today.

Tako da ću danas govoriti o svakoj od njih.

So, first of all, my own stories. These are two of my sketchbooks.

Prvo, dakle, moje lične priče. Ovo su dve moje sveske za crtanje.

I have many of these books,

Imam mnogo ovakvih sveski,

and I've been keeping them for about the last eight or nine years.

i čuvam ih poslednjih osam ili devet godina.

They accompany me wherever I go in my life,

Prave mi društvo gde god da idem u svom životu,

and I fill them with all sorts of things,

i popunjavam ih svakakim stvarima,

records of my lived experience:

podacima mojih doživljenih iskustava.

so watercolor paintings, drawings of what I see,

Dakle, akvarelima, crtežima onoga što vidim,

dead flowers, dead insects, pasted ticket stubs, rusting coins,

mrtvim cvećem, mrtvim insektima, ispisanim ulaznicama, zarđalim novčićima,

business cards, writings.

vizit kartama, spisima.

And in these books, you can find these short, little glimpses

U ovim sveskama takođe možete naći kratak odsjaj

of moments and experiences and people that I meet.

momenata i iskustava i ljudi koje sam upoznao.

And, you know, after keeping these books for a number of years,

I znate, nakon održavanja ovih svezaka dugi niz godina,

I started to become very interested in collecting

počeo sam veoma da se zanimam za sakupljanje

not only my own personal artifacts,

ne samo mojih ličnih predmeta,

but also the artifacts of other people.

već i predmeta drugih ljudi.

So, I started collecting found objects.

Tako da sam počeo da sakupljam predmete koje sam nalazio.

This is a photograph I found lying in a gutter in New York City

Ovo je fotografija koju sam našao kako leži u slivniku u Njujorku

about 10 years ago.

pre desetak godina.

On the front, you can see the tattered black-and-white photo of a woman's face,

Na prednjoj strani možete da vidite iscepanu crno belu fotografiju ženskog lica,

and on the back it says, "To Judy, the girl with the Bill Bailey voice.

a na poleđini piše: "Za Džudi, devojku sa glasom Bilija Bejlija.

Have fun in whatever you do."

Uživaj u svemu što činiš."

And I really loved this idea of the partial glimpse into somebody's life.

I zaista mi se dopala ideja delimičnog pogleda na nečiji život,

As opposed to knowing the whole story, just knowing a little bit of the story,

za razliku od poznavanja čitave priče; znati samo mali deo priče

and then letting your own mind fill in the rest.

i pustiti svoj um da popuni ostatke.

And that idea of a partial glimpse is something

I ta ideja delimičnog pogleda je nešto

that will come back in a lot of the work I'll be showing later today.

što će se vraćati u većini stvari koje ću kasnije prikazati.

So, around this time I was studying computer science at Princeton University,

Negde u to vreme studirao sam kompjuterske tehnologije na Prinston univerzitetu,

and I noticed that it was suddenly possible

i primetio sam da odjednom mogu

to collect these sorts of personal artifacts,

da sakupim ovakve lične predmete,

not just from street corners, but also from the Internet.

ne samo po ćoškovima ulica, nego i na internetu.

And that suddenly, people, en masse, were leaving scores and scores

I odjednom, ljudi su masovno počeli da ostavljaju mnogo

of digital footprints online that told stories of their private lives.

digitalnih tragova koji su govorili o pričama iz njihovog privatnog života.

Blog posts, photographs, thoughts, feelings, opinions,

Blog postovi, fotografije, misli, osećanja, mišljenja,

all of these things were being expressed by people online,

sve ove stvari su ljudi izražavali na internetu,

and leaving behind trails.

i ostavljali tragove za sobom.

So, I started to write computer programs

Tako da sam počeo da pišem kompjuterske programe

that study very, very large sets of these online footprints.

koji proučavaju veoma, veoma velike setove mrežnih otisaka.

One such project is about a year and a half old.

Jedan od takvih projekata je star oko godinu i po dana.

It's called "We Feel Fine."

Zove se " We feel fine" ("Osećamo se dobro").

This is a project that scans the world's newly posted blog entries

Ovo je projekat koji skenira svetske najnovije objavljene blog unose

every two or three minutes, searching for occurrences of the phrases

svake dve ili tri minute, tražeći pojavu fraza

"I feel" and "I am feeling." And when it finds one of those phrases,

"Ja osećam" i "Ja se osećam." I kada pronađe jednu od tih fraza,

it grabs the full sentence up to the period

zgrabi čitavu rečenicu

and also tries to identify demographic information about the author.

i takođe pokušava da prepozna demografske podatke o autoru.

So, their gender, their age, their geographic location

Dakle, pol, godine, geografski položaj

and what the weather conditions were like when they wrote that sentence.

i kakvi su vremenski uslovi bili kada su napisali rečenicu.

It collects about 20,000 such sentences a day

Sakupi oko 20 000 takvih rečenica dnevno

and it's been running for about a year and a half,

a radi oko godinu i po,

having collected over 10 and a half million feelings now.

i sakupio je preko deset i po miliona osećanja do sada.

This is, then, how they're presented.

Koja su kasnije ovako predstavljena.

These dots here represent some of the English-speaking world's

Ove tačke ovde predstavljaju neka od osećanja sa

feelings from the last few hours,

engleskog govornog područja, u poslednja dva sata.

each dot being a single sentence stated by a single blogger.

Svaka tačka predstavlja jednu rečenicu, izjavu pojedinačnog blogera.

And the color of each dot corresponds to the type of feeling inside,

A boja svake tačke odgovara vrsti osećanja unutra,

so the bright ones are happy, and the dark ones are sad.

tako da su svetle srećne, a tamne su tužne.

And the diameter of each dot corresponds

A prečnik svake tačke odgovara

to the length of the sentence inside.

dužini rečenice.

So the small ones are short, and the bigger ones are longer.

Tako da su male - kratke, a veće su duže.

"I feel fine with the body I'm in, there'll be no easy excuse

"Osećam se dobro sa telom u kojem sam, tako da neće biti jednostavnog izgovora

for why I still feel uncomfortable being close to my boyfriend,"

za to što se i dalje osećam neprijatno pored svog momka."

from a twenty-two-year-old in Japan.

od dvadesetdvogodišnjakinje iz Japana.

"I got this on some trading locally,

"Dobio sam ovo na nekom lokalnom marketu,

but really don't feel like screwing with wiring and crap."

ali mi se ne bakće sa žicama i ostalim sranjima."

Also, some of the feelings contain photographs in the blog posts.

Takođe, neka od osećanja u blog postu sadrže i fotografiju

And when that happens, these montage compositions are automatically created,

a kada se to dogodi, ove montažne kompozicije se automatski kreiraju,

which consist of the sentence and images being combined.

koje kombinuju rečenicu i sliku.

And any of these can be opened up to reveal the sentence inside.

I bilo koja od ovih može da se otvori i oktrije rečenicu unutra.

"I feel good."

"Osećam se dobro."

"I feel rough now, and I probably gained 100,000 pounds,

"Osećam se glomazno, i verovatno sam dobila 100.000 kila,

but it was worth it."

ali vredelo je."

"I love how they were able to preserve most in everything

"Volim to kako su očuvali većinu onoga

that makes you feel close to nature -- butterflies,

što čini da se osećaš bliskom prirodi - leptire,

man-made forests, limestone caves and hey, even a huge python."

veštačke šume, krečnjačke pećine i hej, čak i ogromnog pitona."

So the next movement is called mobs.

Sledeći pokret se zove rulje.

This provides a slightly more statistical look at things.

Ovo nam daje nešto više statistički pogled na stvari.

This is showing the world's most common feelings overall right now,

Ovo pokazuje trenutna najčešća osećanja na svetu,

dominated by better, then bad, then good, then guilty, and so on.

počevši od boljeg, onda lošeg, onda dobrog, pa osećanja krivice, i tako dalje.

Weather causes the feelings to assume the physical traits

Vreme uzrokuje da osećanja preuzmu fizičke osobine

of the weather they represent. So the sunny ones swirl around,

vremena koje predstavljaju. Tako da se sunčani kovitlaju,

the cloudy ones float along, the rainy ones fall down,

oblačni lebde zajedno, kišni padaju,

and the snowy ones flutter to the ground.

a snežni vihore ka tlu.

You can also stop a raindrop and open the feeling inside.

Možete i zaustaviti kap kiše i otvoriti osećanje unutra.

Finally, location causes the feelings to move to their spots

Konačno, lokacija uzrokuje da se osećanja pomeraju ka svojim tačkama

on a world map, giving you a sense of their geographic distribution.

na mapi sveta, dajući vam osećaj geografske distribucije.

So I'll show you now some of my favorite montages from "We Feel Fine."

Pokazaću vam sada neke od mojh omiljenih montaža sa "We feel fine."

These are the images that are automatically constructed.

Ovo su slike koje se automatski konstruišu.

"I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe."

"Osećam se kao da sam dijagonalno parkirana u paralelnom svemiru."

(Laughter)

(smeh)

"I've kissed numerous other boys and it hasn't felt good,

"Poljubila sam mnogo drugih momaka i osećaj nije bio dobar,

the kisses felt messy and wrong,

poljupci su bili prljavi i pogrešni,

but kissing Lucas feels beautiful and almost spiritual."

ali ljubiti Lukasa je lepo i skoro duhovno."

"I can feel my cancer grow."

"Mogu da osetim kako moj rak raste."

"I feel pretty."

"Osećam se lepom."

"I feel skinny, but I'm not."

"Osećam se mršavom, ali nisam."

"I'm 23, and a recovering meth and heroin addict,

"Imam dvadesettri i oporavljam se od metadonske i heroinske zavisnosti,

and feel absolutely blessed to still be alive."

i osećam se blagosloveno što sam i dalje živa."

"I can't wait to see them racing for the first time at Daytona next month,

"Ne mogu da dočekam da ih vidim kako se trkaju po prvi put u Dejtoni sledećeg meseca,

because I feel the need for speed."

jer osećam potrebu za brzinom."

(Laughter)

(smeh)

"I feel sassy."

"Osećam se bezobrazno."

"I feel so sexy in this new wig."

"Osećam se seksi sa ovom novom perikom."

As you can see, "We Feel Fine" collects

Kao što možete da vidite, "We feel fine" sakuplja

very, very small-scale personal stories.

veoma, veoma mali opseg ličnih priča.

Sometimes, stories as short as two or three words.

Ponekada kratke priče, kao što su dve ili tri reči.

So, really even challenging the notion

Dakle, čak i dovodeći u pitanje ideju

of what can be considered a story.

onoga što se može smatrati pričom.

And recently, I've become interested in diving much more deeply into a single story.

A od nedavno sam postao zainteresovan za poniranje mnogo dublje u jednu priču.

And that's led me to doing some work with the physical world,

I to me je dovelo do toga da radim nešto sa fizičkim svetom,

not with the Internet,

a ne internetom,

and only using the Internet at the very last moment, as a presentation medium.

i da koristim internet samo u poslednjem trenutku kao medijum za prezentaciju.

So these are some newer projects that

Tako da su ovo neki noviji projekti koji

actually aren't even launched publicly yet.

ustvari nisu još objavljeni u javnosti.

The first such one is called "The Whale Hunt."

Prvi od njih se zove "The Whale Hunt (Lov na kitove)."

Last May, I spent nine days living up in Barrow, Alaska,

U maju prošle godine, proveo sam devet dana živeći na Aljasci u Barou,

the northernmost settlement in the United States,

najsevernijem naselju u Americi,

with a family of Inupiat Eskimos,

sa porodicom Inupijat Eskima,

documenting their annual spring whale hunt.

beležeći njihov prolećni lov na kitove.

This is the whaling camp here, we're about six miles from shore,

Ovo ovde je kamp za lov, udaljeni smo oko 10km od obale,

camping on five and a half feet of thick, frozen pack ice.

i smešteni na tankom parčetu leda.

And that water that you see there is the open lead,

I ova voda koju vidite je otvorena

and through that lead, bowhead whales migrate north each springtime.

i kroz te otvore, grenlandski kitovi migriraju severno svakog proleća.

And the Eskimo community basically camps out on the edge of the ice here,

I zajednica Eskima praktično kampuje na ivici ovog leda ovde,

waits for a whale to come close enough to attack. And when it does,

čekaju neko vreme da kit dođe dovoljno blizu da napadne, a kada to učini,

it throws a harpoon at it, and then hauls the whale up

gađaju ih harpunom i povlače kita

under the ice, and cuts it up.

ispod leda, i seku ga.

And that would provide the community's food supply for a long time.

I to bi trebalo da obezbedi zajednici zalihe hrane za dug vremenski period.

So I went up there, and I lived with these guys

Tako da sam otišao tamo i živeo sa tim ljudima

out in their whaling camp here, and photographed the entire experience,

u tim kampovima i fotografisao to celokupno iskustvo,

beginning with the taxi ride to Newark airport in New York,

počevši od vožnje taksijem do Njuark aerodroma u Njujorku

and ending with the butchering of the second whale, seven and a half days later.

i završivši sa kasapljenjem drugog kita, sedam i po dana kasnije.

I photographed that entire experience at five-minute intervals.

Fotografisao sam to čitavo iskustvo u petominutnim intervalima.

So every five minutes, I took a photograph.

Tako da sam svakih pet minuta pravio jednu fotografiju.

When I was awake, with the camera around my neck.

Dok sam bio budan, sa aparatom oko vrata,

When I was sleeping, with a tripod and a timer.

dok sam spavao, sa stativom i tajmerom.

And then in moments of high adrenaline,

I onda u momentima visokog adrenalina,

like when something exciting was happening,

dok se događa nešto uzbudljivo,

I would up that photographic frequency to as many as

ja bih podesio fotografsku frekvenciju na čak

37 photographs in five minutes.

trideset i sedam fotografija u 5 minuta.

So what this created was a photographic heartbeat

To je dovelo do toga da fotografksi otkucaji srca

that sped up and slowed down, more or less matching

ubrzavaju i usporavaju, manje - više odgovarajući

the changing pace of my own heartbeat.

promeni ritma mog srca.

That was the first concept here.

To je ovde prvi koncept.

The second concept was to use this experience to think about

Drugi koncept koristi ovo iskustvo za razmišljanje o

the fundamental components of any story.

osnovnim komponentama svake priče.

What are the things that make up a story?

Koje to stvari prave priču?

So, stories have characters. Stories have concepts.

Dakle, priče imaju karakter. Imaju koncept.

Stories take place in a certain area. They have contexts.

Priče se dešavaju na određenom mestu. Imaju kontekst.

They have colors. What do they look like?

Imaju boje. Kako izgledaju?

They have time. When did it take place? Dates -- when did it occur?

Imaju vreme. Kada se odvijala? Datumi, kada se zbila?

And in the case of the whale hunt, also this idea of an excitement level.

A u slučaju lova na kitove, ideja o nivou uzbuđenja.

The thing about stories, though, in most of the existing mediums

Činjenica u vezi sa pričama, u većini postojećih medija

that we're accustomed to -- things like novels, radio,

na koje smo navikli, stvari poput romana, radija,

photographs, movies, even lectures like this one --

fotografija, filmova, ali i predavanja poput ovog,

we're very accustomed to this idea of the narrator or the camera position,

naviknuti smo na ideju postojanja predavača ili postojanja kamere.

some kind of omniscient, external body

Neka vrsta sveznajućeg spoljašnjeg tela

through whose eyes you see the story.

kroz čije oči vidite priču.

We're very used to this.

Navikli smo na to.

But if you think about real life, it's not like that at all.

Ali ako pomislite na stvaran život, uopšte nije tako.

I mean, in real life, things are much more nuanced and complex,

Mislim, u realnom životu, stvari imaju više nijansi i komplikovanije su,

and there's all of these overlapping stories

i postoji toliko priča koje se prepliću

intersecting and touching each other.

presecaju i dodiruju.

And so I thought it would be interesting to build a framework

Tako da sam pomislio da bi bilo zanimljivo napraviti okvir

to surface those types of stories. So, in the case of "The Whale Hunt,"

koji će da pokrije tu vrstu priča. Tako u slučaju "Lova na kitove",

how could we extract something like the story of Simeon and Crawford,

kako bismo mogli da izvučemo nešto što podseća na priču o Simeonu i Krofordu,

involving the concepts of wildlife, tools and blood, taking place on the Arctic Ocean,

uključujući koncepte divljeg života, alata i krvi, koji se dešava u Severnom Ledenom okeanu,

dominated by the color red, happening around 10 a.m. on May 3,

u 10 ujutru trećeg maja, gde dominira crvena boja,

with an excitement level of high?

i nivo uzbuđenja je visok?

So, how to extract this order of narrative from this larger story?

Dakle, kako izdvojiti ovaj redosled iz ove velike priče?

I built a web interface for viewing "The Whale Hunt" that attempts to do just this.

Napravio sam internet program za pregled "Lova na kitove" koji pokušava da učini upravo to.

So these are all 3,214 pictures taken up there.

Tako da su ovo sve slike napravljene tamo, njih 3214.

This is my studio in Brooklyn. This is the Arctic Ocean,

Ovo je moj studio u Bruklinu. Ovo je Severni ledeni okean,

and the butchering of the second whale, seven days later.

i kasapljenje drugog kita, sedam dana kasnije.

You can start to see some of the story here, told by color.

Možete da vidite neke od priča ovde, ispričane bojom.

So this red strip signifies the color of the wallpaper

Ova crvena traka označava boju pozadine

in the basement apartment where I was staying.

stana u prizemlju gde sam odseo.

And things go white as we move out onto the Arctic Ocean.

I stvari se pomeraju ka beloj kako idemo ka Severnom ledenom okeanu.

Introduction of red down here, when whales are being cut up.

Uvođenje crvene ovde, kada su kitovi sečeni.

You can see a timeline, showing you the exciting moments throughout the story.

Možete da vidite vremensku liniju, koja pokazuje uzbudljive trenutke u celoj priči.

These are organized chronologically.

Ove su organizovane hronološki.

Wheel provides a slightly more playful version of the same,

Točak pruža nešto više razigranu verziju istog,

so these are also all the photographs organized chronologically.

tako da su i ovo sve fotografije poređane hronološki.

And any of these can be clicked,

I bilo koja od ovih može da se klikne,

and then the narrative is entered at that position.

i onda priča dolazi na tu poziciju.

So here I am sleeping on the airplane heading up to Alaska.

Ovo ovde ja spavam u avionu na putu za Aljasku.

That's "Moby Dick."

Ovo je Mobi Dik.

This is the food we ate.

Ovo je hrana koju smo jeli.

This is in the Patkotak's family living room

Ovo je dnevna soba porodice Patkotak

in their house in Barrow. The boxed wine they served us.

u njihovoj kući u Barou. Služili su nam vino u kutiji.

Cigarette break outside -- I don't smoke.

Pauza za pušenje, napolju - ja ne pušim.

This is a really exciting sequence of me sleeping.

Ovo je zaista uzbudljiv niz mene kako spavam.

This is out at whale camp, on the Arctic Ocean.

Ovo je u kampu za kitove, na Severnom ledenom okeanu.

This graph that I'm clicking down here is meant to be

Ovaj grafikon koji klikćem ovde dole je trebalo da

reminiscent of a medical heartbeat graph,

podseća na medicinski grafikon otkucaja srca,

showing the exciting moments of adrenaline.

koji pokazuje uzbudljive adrenalinske momente.

This is the ice starting to freeze over. The snow fence they built.

Ovo je led koji počinje da se stvara preko. Snežna ograda koju su sagradili.

And so what I'll show you now is the ability to pull out sub-stories.

Ono što ću vam sledeće pokazati jeste mogućnost da izvučete pod - priče.

So, here you see the cast. These are all of the people in "The Whale Hunt"

Ovde vidite glumce. Ovo su svi ljudi u "Lovu na kitove",

and the two whales that were killed down here.

i dva kita koji su tu ubijeni.

And we could do something as arbitrary as, say,

I možemo da uraimo bilo šta što nam padne na pamet, kao npr,

extract the story of Rony, involving the concepts of blood

izvučemo priču o Roni, uključujuću koncepte krv,

and whales and tools, taking place on the Arctic Ocean,

kitovi i alati, koja se održava na Severnom ledenom okeanu,

at Ahkivgaq camp, with the heartbeat level of fast.

u Akivgak kampu, brzim otkucajima srca.

And now we've whittled down that whole story

I sada kada smo sveli čitavu priču

to just 29 matching photographs,

na samo dvadesetdevet fotografija,

and then we can enter the narrative at that position.

možemo da ubacimo priču u taj položaj.

And you can see Rony cutting up the whale here.

I možete da vidite Roni kako ovde seče kita.

These whales are about 40 feet long,

Ovi kitovi su dugi oko dvanaest metara

and weighing over 40 tons. And they provide the food source

i teški preko četrdeset tona. I obezbeđuju zalihe hrane

for the community for much of the year.

za veći deo godine čitavoj zajednici.

Skipping ahead a bit more here, this is Rony on the whale carcass.

Da ubrzamo malo na ovaj deo ovde gde je Roni na kitovoj strvini.

They use no chainsaws or anything; it's entirely just blades,

Oni ne koriste testere ili tome slično, već samo noževe,

and an incredibly efficient process.

i to je neverovatno efikasan proces.

This is the guys on the rope, pulling open the carcass.

Ovi momci užetom povlače i otvaraju lešinu.

This is the muktuk, or the blubber, all lined up for community distribution.

Ovo je muktuk ili kitova mast, poređana za podelu po zajednici.

It's baleen. Moving on.

Ovo je kitova kost. Nastavljamo dalje.

So what I'm going to tell you about next

Ono o čemu ću sledeće da vam pričam

is a very new thing. It's not even a project yet.

je sasvim nova stvar. Nije još ni projekat.

So, just yesterday, I flew in here from Singapore, and before that,

Juče upravo, leteo sam iz Singapura, a pre toga,

I was spending two weeks in Bhutan, the small Himalayan kingdom

proveo sam dve nedelje u Butanu, malom kraljevstvu na Himalajima

nestled between Tibet and India.

smeštenom između Tibeta i Indije.

And I was doing a project there about happiness,

Radio sam tamo projekat o sreći,

interviewing a lot of local people.

razgovarao sa mnogim lokalnim stanovnicima.

So Bhutan has this really wacky thing where they base

Butan ima tu stvarno otkačenu stvar, a to je da je većina

most of their high-level governmental decisions around the concept

njihovih visokih vladinih odluka zasnovana na konceptu

of gross national happiness instead of gross domestic product,

bruto nacionalne sreće, a ne bruto domaćeg proizvoda,

and they've been doing this since the '70s.

i to rade od sedamdesetih.

And it leads to just a completely different value system.

A to vodi u jedan potpuno drugačiji sistem vrednosti.

It's an incredibly non-materialistic culture,

To je neverovatno ne-materijalistička kultura

where people don't have a lot, but they're incredibly happy.

gde ljudi nemaju mnogo, ali su neverovatno srećni.

So I went around and I talked to people about some of these ideas.

Tako da sam išao okolo i razgovarao sa ljudima o nekim od tih ideja.

So, I did a number of things. I asked people a number of set questions,

Uradio sam mnogo stvari. Postavljao sam ljudima brojna pitanja,

and took a number of set photographs,

i napravio sam set fotografija

and interviewed them with audio, and also took pictures.

i pravio sam audio zapise i isto tako ih i slikao.

I would start by asking people to rate their happiness

Počeo bih tako što bih pitao ljude da ocene svoju sreću

between one and 10, which is kind of inherently absurd.

od jedan do deset, što je samo po sebi besmisleno.

And then when they answered, I would inflate that number of balloons

Nakon što bi odgovorili, naduvao bih taj broj balona

and give them that number of balloons to hold.

i dao bih im da ih drže.

So, you have some really happy person holding 10 balloons,

Tako da imate neke zaista srećne osobe koje drže deset balona,

and some really sad soul holding one balloon.

i neku zaista tužnu dušu koja drži jedan balon.

But you know, even holding one balloon is like, kind of happy.

Ali, znate, čak i držati jedan balon je kao, ipak sreća.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

And then I would ask them a number of questions like

A onda bih im postavio brojna pitanja, poput:

what was the happiest day in their life, what makes them happy.

Koji dan im je bio najsrećniji u životu, šta ih čini srećnima.

And then finally, I would ask them to make a wish.

I konačno, upitao bih ih da zažele jednu želju.

And when they made a wish, I would write their wish

I kada zamisle želju, napisao bih je

onto one of the balloons and take a picture of them holding it.

na jedan od njihovih balona i slikao ih kako ga drže.

So I'm going to show you now just a few brief snippets

Pokazaću vam sada samo nekoliko kratkih odlomaka

of some of the interviews that I did, some of the people I spoke with.

iz nekih od intervjua koje sam uradio sa ljudima sa kojima sam razgovarao.

This is an 11-year-old student.

Ovo je jedanaestogodišnji učenik.

He was playing cops and robbers with his friends, running around town,

Igrao se lopova i žandara sa svojim prijateljima, trčali su po gradu,

and they all had plastic toy guns.

i svi su imali plastične igračke pištolje.

His wish was to become a police officer.

Njegova želja je bila da postane policajac.

He was getting started early. Those were his hands.

Počeo je rano. Ovo su njegove ruke.

I took pictures of everybody's hands,

Fotografisao sam svačije ruke,

because I think you can often tell a lot about somebody

zato što mislim da često možete mnogo da kažete o nekome

from how their hands look. I took a portrait of everybody,

na osnovu izgleda ruku. Fotografisao sam svačije lice,

and asked everybody to make a funny face.

i zamolio sam ih da naprave smešnu facu.

A 17-year-old student. Her wish was to have been born a boy.

Sedamnaestogodišnja učenica. Želela je da se rodila kao dečak.

She thinks that women have a pretty tough go of things in Bhutan,

Ona misli da je ženama u Butanu prilično teško

and it's a lot easier if you're a boy.

i da je mnogo lakše ako ste dečak.

A 28-year-old cell phone shop owner.

Dvadesetosmogodišnji vlasnik prodavnice mobilnih telefona.

If you knew what Paro looked like, you'd understand

Kada biste znali kako Paro izgleda, razumeli biste

how amazing it is that there's a cell phone shop there.

koliko je neverovatno što tu postoji prodavnica mobilnih telefona.

He wanted to help poor people.

On je hteo da pomogne siromašnim ljudima.

A 53-year-old farmer. She was chaffing wheat,

Pedesettrogodišnja zemljoradnica. Ona je čistila pšenicu od korova,

and that pile of wheat behind her

i za tu gomilu pšenice iza nje

had taken her about a week to make.

bilo joj je potrebno nedelju dana.

She wanted to keep farming until she dies.

Ona želi da se bavi poljoprivredom do smrti.

You can really start to see the stories told by the hands here.

Zaista možete da primetite priče ispričane rukama ovde.

She was wearing this silver ring that had the word "love" engraved on it,

Nosila je srebrni prsten koji je imao izgraviranu reč "ljubav",

and she'd found it in the road somewhere.

a našla ga je negde na putu.

A 16-year-old quarry worker.

Šesnaestogodišnji radnik u kamenolomu.

This guy was breaking rocks with a hammer in the hot sunlight,

Ovaj momak je razbijao kamen čekićem na vrelini sunca,

but he just wanted to spend his life as a farmer.

a samo je želeo da provede život kao poljoprivrednik.

A 21-year-old monk. He was very happy.

Dvadesetjednogodišnji monah. On je bio veoma srećan.

He wanted to live a long life at the monastery.

On je želeo da živi dug život u manastiru.

He had this amazing series of hairs growing out of a mole on the left side of his face,

Iz mladeža na levoj strani lica raslo mu je mnogo dlaka

which I'm told is very good luck.

za koje su mi rekli da donose sreću.

He was kind of too shy to make a funny face.

Bio je previše stidljiv da bi napravio smešnu facu.

A 16-year-old student.

Šesnaestogodišnja učenica.

She wanted to become an independent woman.

Poželela je da postane nezavisna žena.

I asked her about that, and she said she meant

Pitao sam je u vezi sa tim i rekla je da to znači

that she doesn't want to be married,

da ne želi da se uda,

because, in her opinion, when you get married in Bhutan as a woman,

jer prema njenom mišljenju, kada ste udate u Butanu,

your chances to live an independent life kind of end,

vaše šanse da živite nezavisnim životom dostižu kraj,

and so she had no interest in that.

tako da ju je to malo zanimalo.

A 24-year-old truck driver.

Dvadesetčetvorogodišnji vozač kamiona.

There are these terrifyingly huge Indian trucks

Postoje ovi zastrašujuće veliki indijski kamioni

that come careening around one-lane roads with two-lane traffic,

koji se spuštaju niz jednosmerne puteve sa dvosmernim saobraćajem,

with 3,000-foot drop-offs right next to the road,

sa padinom od 1000 metara odmah pored puta,

and he was driving one of these trucks.

i on je vozio jedan od ovih kaimiona.

But all he wanted was to just live a comfortable life, like other people.

Ali jedino što je on želeo je da živi komfornim životom, poput drugih ljudi.

A 24-year-old road sweeper. I caught her on her lunch break.

Dvadesetčetvorogodišnja čistačica puteva. Uhvatio sam je na njenoj pauzi za ručak.

She'd built a little fire to keep warm, right next to the road.

Upalila je malu vatru pored puta, kako bi se zagrejala.

Her wish was to marry someone with a car.

Njena želja je da se uda za nekoga ko ima kola.

She wanted a change in her life.

Želela je promenu u svom životu.

She lives in a little worker's camp right next to the road,

Živi u malom kampu za radnike odmah pored puta,

and she wanted a different lot on things.

i želela je promenu mnogih stvari.

An 81-year-old itinerant farmer.

Osamdesetjednogodišnji putujući farmer.

I saw this guy on the side of the road,

Spazio sam ovog momka pokraj puta,

and he actually doesn't have a home.

i on ustvari nema kuću.

He travels from farm to farm each day trying to find work,

On putuje od farme do farme svakog dana, u potrazi za poslom,

and then he tries to sleep at whatever farm he gets work at.

i pokušava da prespava na bilo kojoj koja ga zaposli.

So his wish was to come with me, so that he had somewhere to live.

I njegova želja je bila da pođe sa mnom, kako bi imao gde da živi.

He had this amazing knife that he pulled out of his gho

Imao je taj neverovatan nož koji je izvukao iz svoje "nošnje",

and started brandishing when I asked him to make a funny face.

a kojim je počeo da vitla kad sam ga zamolio da napravi smešnu facu.

It was all good-natured.

Bilo je to dobroćudno.

A 10-year-old.

Desetogodišnjak.

He wanted to join a school and learn to read,

Želeo je da krene u školu i da nauči da čita,

but his parents didn't have enough money to send him to school.

ali njegovi roditelji nisu imali dovoljno novca da ga pošalju u školu.

He was eating this orange, sugary candy

Jeo je taj slatkiš od pomorandže

that he kept dipping his fingers into,

u koji je stalno umakao svoje prste,

and since there was so much saliva on his hands,

a pošto je na njegovim rukama bilo toliko pljuvačke,

this orange paste started to form on his palms.

ova narandžasta pasta se formirala na njegovim dlanovima.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

A 37-year-old road worker.

Tridesetsedmogodišnji radnik na putu.

One of the more touchy political subjects in Bhutan

Jedna od najosetljivijih političkih tema u Butanu

is the use of Indian cheap labor

jeste upotreba jevtine indijske radne snage

that they import from India to build the roads,

koju dovode iz Indije da grade puteve

and then they send these people home once the roads are built.

i onda ih šalju kući, nakon što su putevi izgrađeni.

So these guys were in a worker's gang

Dakle, ovi momci su grupa radnika

mixing up asphalt one morning on the side of the highway.

koja je mešala asfalt jednog jutra sa strane autoputa.

His wish was to make some money and open a store.

Njegova želja je bila da stekne nešto novca i da otvori radnju.

A 75-year-old farmer. She was selling oranges on the side of the road.

Sedamdesetpetogodišnja poljoprivrednica. Ona je prodavala narandže pored puta.

I asked her about her wish, and she said,

Pitao sam je za njenu želju, a ona je rekla,

"You know, maybe I'll live, maybe I'll die, but I don't have a wish."

"Znaš, možda ću živeti, možda ću umreti, ali ja nemam želju."

She was chewing betel nut, which caused her teeth

Žvakala je betel orah, što je dovelo do toga da njeni zubi

over the years to turn very red.

tokom godina dobiju crvenu boju.

Finally, this is a 26-year-old nun I spoke to.

Konačno, ovo je dvadesetšestogodišnja časna sestra sa kojom sam razgovarao.

Her wish was to make a pilgrimage to Tibet.

Njena želja je hodočašće na Tibet.

I asked her how long she planned to live in the nunnery and she said,

Upitao sam je koliko dugo planira da ostane u manastiru i ona je rekla,

"Well, you know, of course, it's impermanent,

"Pa znaš, naravno da je nestalno,

but my plan is to live here until I'm 30, and then enter a hermitage."

ali moj plan je da živim ovde do tridesete i da potom pristupim izolovanom životu."

And I said, "You mean, like a cave?" And she said, "Yeah, like a cave."

Rekao sam, "Mislite poput pećine?" Rekla je, "Da, poput pećine."

And I said, "Wow, and how long will you live in the cave?"

Rekao sam, "Uuu, i koliko dugo ćete živeti u pećini?"

And she said, "Well, you know,

Odgovorila je, "Pa, znaš,

I think I'd kind of like to live my whole life in the cave."

mislim da bih donekle volela da ceo svoj život provedem u pećini."

I just thought that was amazing. I mean, she spoke in a way --

Mislio sam da je to sjajno. MIslim, govorila je na način,

with amazing English, and amazing humor, and amazing laughter --

sjajnim engleskim i odličnim humorom i odličnim smehom,

that made her seem like somebody I could have bumped into

koji je činio da izgleda poput nekoga na koga sam mogao da naletim

on the streets of New York, or in Vermont, where I'm from.

na ulicama Njujorka ili Vermonta, odakle sam ja.

But here she had been living in a nunnery for the last seven years.

Ali evo, ona živi u manastiru poslednjih sedam godina.

I asked her a little bit more about the cave

Pitao sam je malo više o pećini

and what she planned would happen once she went there, you know.

i šta je planirala da se u toj pećini dogodi.

What if she saw the truth after just one year,

Šta ako otkrije istinu posle samo godinu dana,

what would she do for the next 35 years in her life?

šta će raditi sledećih 35 godina svoga života?

And this is what she said.

A ovo je njen odgovor.

Woman: I think I'm going to stay for 35. Maybe -- maybe I'll die.

Žena: Mislim da ću ostati tridesetpet godina, možda, možda ću umreti.

Jonathan Harris: Maybe you'll die? Woman: Yes.

Džonatan Haris: Možda ćete umreti? Žena: Da.

JH: 10 years? Woman: Yes, yes. JH: 10 years, that's a long time.

DžH: Deset godina? Žena: Da, da. DžH: Deset godina, to je mnogo vremena.

Woman: Yes, not maybe one, 10 years, maybe I can die

Žena: Da, možda ne jedna, deset godina, možda mogu da umrem

within one year, or something like that.

tokom prve godine, ili tako nešto.

JH: Are you hoping to?

DžH: Da li se nadate tome?

Woman: Ah, because you know, it's impermanent.

Žena: Ah, zato što je, znate, nestalno.

JH: Yeah, but -- yeah, OK. Do you hope --

DžH: Da, ali... da, ok. Da li se nadate -

would you prefer to live in the cave for 40 years,

da li biste voleli da živite u pećini četrdeset godina,

or to live for one year?

ili da živite jednu godinu?

Woman: But I prefer for maybe 40 to 50.

Žena: Ja bih radije četrdeset ili pedeset.

JH: 40 to 50? Yeah.

DžH: Četrdeset do pedeset? Da.

Woman: Yes. From then, I'm going to the heaven.

Žena: Da. Odatle idem u raj.

JH: Well, I wish you the best of luck with it.

DžH: Želim vam mnogo sreće u tome.

Woman: Thank you.

Žena: Hvala vam.

JH: I hope it's everything that you hope it will be.

DžH: Nadam se da je to sve čemu ste se nadali.

So thank you again, so much.

Hvala vam još jednom, mnogo.

Woman: You're most welcome.

Žena: Nema na čemu.

JH: So if you caught that, she said she hoped to die

DžH: Ako ste uhvatili, rekla je da se nada da će umreti

when she was around 40. That was enough life for her.

kad bude imala oko četrdeset. To je za nju dosta života.

So, the last thing we did, very quickly,

Poslednja stvar koju smo uradili, na brzinu,

is I took all those wish balloons -- there were 117 interviews,

uzeo sam sve balone sa željama - bilo je 117 intervjua,

117 wishes -- and I brought them up to a place called Dochula,

117 želja - i doneo sam ih do mesta zvano Dohula,

which is a mountain pass in Bhutan, at 10,300 feet,

što je planinski prolaz u Butanu, na 3400m ,

one of the more sacred places in Bhutan.

jedno od najsvetijih mesta u Butanu.

And up there, there are thousands of prayer flags

I tamo gore ima na hiljade molitvenih zastava

that people have spread out over the years.

koje su ljudi širili tokom godina.

And we re-inflated all of the balloons, put them up on a string,

I ponovo smo naduvali sve balone, stavili ih na žicu,

and hung them up there among the prayer flags.

i okačili ih među molitvene zastave.

And they're actually still flying up there today.

I zapravo, oni i dalje lete tamo gore.

So if any of you have any Bhutan travel plans in the near future,

Tako da ako neko od vas ima plan da u skorijoj budućnosti putuje u Butan,

you can go check these out. Here are some images from that.

možete da proverite ovo. Evo nekih slika toga.

We said a Buddhist prayer so that all these wishes could come true.

Izgovorili smo budističke molitve kako bi se sve ove želje ostvarile.

You can start to see some familiar balloons here.

Možete da primetite neke poznate balone.

"To make some money and to open a store" was the Indian road worker.

"Da zaradim nešto novca i otvorim radnju" je od indijskog radnika na putu.

Thanks very much.

Mnogo vam hvala.

(Applause)

(aplauz)