Jonathan Harris: The web as art

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So I'm going to talk today about collecting stories

Danas ću govoriti o sakupljanju priča

in some unconventional ways.

na pomalo neuobičajen način.

This is a picture of me from a very awkward stage in my life.

Ovo je moja slika iz prilično čudne faze mog života.

You might enjoy the awkwardly tight, cut-off pajama bottoms with balloons.

Možda će vam se svidjeti čudno uzak, odrezan donji dio pidžame s balonima.

Anyway, it was a time when I was mainly interested

Bilo kako bilo, to je bilo vrijeme kada sam uglavnom bio zainteresiran

in collecting imaginary stories.

za sakupljanje izmišljenih priča.

So this is a picture of me

Dakle, ovo je moja slika

holding one of the first watercolor paintings I ever made.

dok držim jednu od prvih temperom napravljenih slika.

And recently I've been much more interested in collecting stories

U zadnje vrijeme me jako zanima sakupljanje priča

from reality -- so, real stories.

iz života -- dakle, stvarnih priča.

And specifically, I'm interested in collecting my own stories,

Posebno sam zainteresiran za sakupljanje svojih priča,

stories from the Internet, and then recently, stories from life,

priča s Interneta, i u zadnje vrijeme, priča iz života,

which is kind of a new area of work that I've been doing recently.

što je nekako novo područje na kojem radim od nedavno.

So I'll be talking about each of those today.

Danas ću govoriti o svakom od tih područja interesa.

So, first of all, my own stories. These are two of my sketchbooks.

Prije svih -- moje priče. Ovdje su moje dvije bilježnice.

I have many of these books,

Imam jako puno ovakvih knjiga,

and I've been keeping them for about the last eight or nine years.

koje sakupljam zadnjih osam ili devet godina.

They accompany me wherever I go in my life,

One me prate gdje god da idem,

and I fill them with all sorts of things,

a ja ih ispunjavam raznim stvarima,

records of my lived experience:

bilješkama mojih proživljenih iskustava.

so watercolor paintings, drawings of what I see,

Slike temperom, crteži onoga što vidim,

dead flowers, dead insects, pasted ticket stubs, rusting coins,

mrtvog cvijeća, mrtvih insekata, starih ulaznica, zahrđalih kovanica,

business cards, writings.

posjetnica, zapisa.

And in these books, you can find these short, little glimpses

U ovim knjigama možete pronaći kratke crtice

of moments and experiences and people that I meet.

trenutaka i iskustava i ljudi koje sam proživio.

And, you know, after keeping these books for a number of years,

I znate što, radeći proteklih nekoliko godina na ovim knjigama

I started to become very interested in collecting

počeo sam se jako zanimati za sakupljanje

not only my own personal artifacts,

ne samo mojih osobnih artefakata,

but also the artifacts of other people.

već i artefakata drugih ljudi.

So, I started collecting found objects.

Tako sam započeo sakupljati pronađene stvari.

This is a photograph I found lying in a gutter in New York City

Ovo je fotografija koja sam pronašao kako leži u slivniku u New Yorku

about 10 years ago.

prije kojih 10 godina.

On the front, you can see the tattered black-and-white photo of a woman's face,

S prednje strane možete vidjeti potrganu crno-bijelu fotku ženskog lica,

and on the back it says, "To Judy, the girl with the Bill Bailey voice.

a sa stražnje strane možete pročitati: "Za Judy, djevojku Bill Baileyovog glasa,

Have fun in whatever you do."

zabavljaj se što god radila."

And I really loved this idea of the partial glimpse into somebody's life.

Jako mi se sviđa ideja parcijalnog pogleda na nečiji život,

As opposed to knowing the whole story, just knowing a little bit of the story,

nasuprot ideji poznavanja cijele priče; znati samo malu sekvencu cijele priče

and then letting your own mind fill in the rest.

i dozvoliti si da vlastita mašta nadopuni ostatak.

And that idea of a partial glimpse is something

Ideju parcijalnog pogleda na nešto

that will come back in a lot of the work I'll be showing later today.

prepoznati ćete na nekoliko radova koje ćete kasnije vidjeti.

So, around this time I was studying computer science at Princeton University,

Negdje u ovo vrijeme dok sam studirao računalne znanosti na Sveučilištu Princeton,

and I noticed that it was suddenly possible

odjednom sam uvidio kako je moguće

to collect these sorts of personal artifacts,

prikupiti te vrste osobnih artefakta,

not just from street corners, but also from the Internet.

ne samo na ulici, već i na Internetu.

And that suddenly, people, en masse, were leaving scores and scores

Iznenada su ljudi masovno počeli ostavljati obilje

of digital footprints online that told stories of their private lives.

digitalnih otisaka on-line koji govore o njihovom osobnom životu.

Blog posts, photographs, thoughts, feelings, opinions,

Blogovi, fotografije, misli, osjećaji, mišljenja,

all of these things were being expressed by people online,

sve te stvari su ljudi izrazili online

and leaving behind trails.

i tako iza sebe ostavili tragove.

So, I started to write computer programs

Tako sam počeo pisati računalne programe

that study very, very large sets of these online footprints.

koji proučavaju jako velike zbirke tih digitalnih otisaka.

One such project is about a year and a half old.

Jedan od tih projekata je star godinu i pol.

It's called "We Feel Fine."

Zove se "Osjećamo se dobro".

This is a project that scans the world's newly posted blog entries

Taj projekt skenira novo postavljene blogove

every two or three minutes, searching for occurrences of the phrases

svake dvije-tri minute, tragajući za varijacijama fraza

"I feel" and "I am feeling." And when it finds one of those phrases,

"osjećam" i "osjećam se". I kada pronađe neke od tih fraza

it grabs the full sentence up to the period

preuzima cijele rečenice

and also tries to identify demographic information about the author.

i pokušava identificirati demografske informacije o autoru.

So, their gender, their age, their geographic location

Koji je njihov spol, njihove godine, njihova geografska lokacija

and what the weather conditions were like when they wrote that sentence.

i kakvi su bili vremenski uvjeti kada je rečenica napisana.

It collects about 20,000 such sentences a day

Tako sakupi preko 20,000 takvih rečenica dnevno

and it's been running for about a year and a half,

radeći na taj način u proteklih godinu i pol,

having collected over 10 and a half million feelings now.

sakupio je do sada preko 10,5 milijuna osjećaja.

This is, then, how they're presented.

Ovo je način na koji su prezentirane.

These dots here represent some of the English-speaking world's

Ove točke predstavljaju neke od osjećaja u dijelu svijeta s engleskog govornog

feelings from the last few hours,

područja u posljednjih nekoliko sati.

each dot being a single sentence stated by a single blogger.

Svaka od točaka predstavlja osjećaj koji je izrazio jedan bloger.

And the color of each dot corresponds to the type of feeling inside,

I svaka boja pojedine točke predstavlja osjećaj iznutra,

so the bright ones are happy, and the dark ones are sad.

gdje svijetle točke predstavljaju sretne osjećaje, dok tamne predstavljaju tužne.

And the diameter of each dot corresponds

Promjer svake od točaka predstavlja

to the length of the sentence inside.

dužinu rečenice.

So the small ones are short, and the bigger ones are longer.

Tako su male točke kratke rečenice, dok velike predstavljaju dugačke.

"I feel fine with the body I'm in, there'll be no easy excuse

"Osjećam se dobro u svom tijelu i nema jednostavnog objašnjenja

for why I still feel uncomfortable being close to my boyfriend,"

zašto se osjećan neugodno pored svog dečka."

from a twenty-two-year-old in Japan.

od 22ogodišnjakinje iz Japana.

"I got this on some trading locally,

"Dobio sam ovo trgujući lokalno,

but really don't feel like screwing with wiring and crap."

ali mi se ne da zafrkavati s nekim žicama i glupostima."

Also, some of the feelings contain photographs in the blog posts.

Neki od osjećaja na blogu sadrže fotografiju

And when that happens, these montage compositions are automatically created,

i tada se automatski stvaraju ovakvi kolaži,

which consist of the sentence and images being combined.

što znači da se spajaju rečenica i pripadajuća slika.

And any of these can be opened up to reveal the sentence inside.

Svaka slika se može otvoriti i prikazati rečenicu vezanu uz nju.

"I feel good."

"Osjećam se dobro."

"I feel rough now, and I probably gained 100,000 pounds,

Osjećam se grdo, vjerojatno sam se udebljala preko 45 tona,

but it was worth it."

ali je bilo vrijedno toga."

"I love how they were able to preserve most in everything

"Volim kako su uspjeli očuvati većinu toga

that makes you feel close to nature -- butterflies,

što vas čini bliskim s prirodom -- leptire,

man-made forests, limestone caves and hey, even a huge python."

šume koje je stvorio čovjek, vapnenjačke pećine, pa čak i velike pitone."

So the next movement is called mobs.

Slijedeći pokret se naziva "rulja".

This provides a slightly more statistical look at things.

Ovo omogućava statistički snažniji pogled na stvari.

This is showing the world's most common feelings overall right now,

Omogućava da vidimo najčešće osjećaje na svijetu u ovom trenutku,

dominated by better, then bad, then good, then guilty, and so on.

gdje dominiraju bolje, potom loše, potom dobro, potom krivnja i tako dalje.

Weather causes the feelings to assume the physical traits

Vrijeme daje osjećajima fizičke značajke

of the weather they represent. So the sunny ones swirl around,

vremena koje predstavljaju. Tako ih sunčano vrijeme vrti u krug,

the cloudy ones float along, the rainy ones fall down,

oblačni lebde okolo, kišni padaju dolje,

and the snowy ones flutter to the ground.

a snježni lepršavo padaju na tlo.

You can also stop a raindrop and open the feeling inside.

Također možete zaustaviti kišnu kapljicu i pogledati osjećaj unutra.

Finally, location causes the feelings to move to their spots

Na kraju, lokacija uzrokuje da se osjećaji kreću do njihovih točaka

on a world map, giving you a sense of their geographic distribution.

na mapi svijeta, čime se dobije osjećaj zemljopisne raspodjele.

So I'll show you now some of my favorite montages from "We Feel Fine."

Sada ću vam pokazati neke od mojih omiljenih montaža s projekta "Osjećamo se dobro".

These are the images that are automatically constructed.

Ovo su slike koje se automatski stvaraju.

"I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe."

"Osjećam se kao da sam dijagonalno parkirana u paralelnom svemiru."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

"I've kissed numerous other boys and it hasn't felt good,

"Poljubila sam brojne dečke i ne osjećam se dobro,

the kisses felt messy and wrong,

poljubci su bili zbrkani i krivi,

but kissing Lucas feels beautiful and almost spiritual."

ali ljubeći Lucasa osjećala sam se prekrasno, gotovo spiritualno."

"I can feel my cancer grow."

"Osjećam kako moj rak raste."

"I feel pretty."

"Osjećam se privlačno."

"I feel skinny, but I'm not."

"Osjećam se mršavo, ali to nisam."

"I'm 23, and a recovering meth and heroin addict,

"Imam 23, oporavljam se od ovisnosti o metamfetamina i heroinu,

and feel absolutely blessed to still be alive."

i osjećam da sam apsolutno blagoslovljena što sam još živa."

"I can't wait to see them racing for the first time at Daytona next month,

Ne mogu dočekati da ih vidim kako se po prvi puta utrkuju u Daytoni slijedeći mjesec,

because I feel the need for speed."

jer osjećam potrebu za brzinom."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

"I feel sassy."

"Osjećam se drsko."

"I feel so sexy in this new wig."

"Osjećam se tako seksi s ovom novom perikom."

As you can see, "We Feel Fine" collects

Kao što možete vidjeti, "Osjećam se dobro" sakuplja

very, very small-scale personal stories.

jako, jako male osobne priče.

Sometimes, stories as short as two or three words.

Ponekad su te priče kratke dvije ili tri rečenice.

So, really even challenging the notion

Tako da čak dovode u pitanje

of what can be considered a story.

što se može smatrati pričom.

And recently, I've become interested in diving much more deeply into a single story.

Nedavno, sam se zainteresirao u dublje poimanje jedne priče.

And that's led me to doing some work with the physical world,

I to me dovelo do rada u fizičkom svijetu,

not with the Internet,

a ne na Internetu,

and only using the Internet at the very last moment, as a presentation medium.

koristeći Internet samo u posljednjem momentu kao medij za prezentaciju.

So these are some newer projects that

Dakle, ovo su neki noviji projekti koji

actually aren't even launched publicly yet.

još nisu pokazani javnosti.

The first such one is called "The Whale Hunt."

Prvog od njih zovem "Lov na kitove".

Last May, I spent nine days living up in Barrow, Alaska,

Prošlog svibnja proveo sam devet dana u Barrowu, Aljaska,

the northernmost settlement in the United States,

najsjevernijem naselju u SAD-u,

with a family of Inupiat Eskimos,

s obitelji Inupiat Eskima,

documenting their annual spring whale hunt.

dokumentirajući njihov godišnji proljetni lov na kitove.

This is the whaling camp here, we're about six miles from shore,

Ovo je privremeni kamp za lov i udaljeni smo nekih 10ak kilometara od obale.

camping on five and a half feet of thick, frozen pack ice.

Kampiramo na ledu debelom preko metar i pol.

And that water that you see there is the open lead,

I voda koju ovdje vidite je otvor,

and through that lead, bowhead whales migrate north each springtime.

kroz koji Grendlandski pravi kit migrira na sjever svako proljeće.

And the Eskimo community basically camps out on the edge of the ice here,

Eskimska zajednica kampira ovdje na ivici leda,

waits for a whale to come close enough to attack. And when it does,

čekajući kitove da im se dovoljno približe kako bi ih mogli napasti i kada se to dogodi

it throws a harpoon at it, and then hauls the whale up

bacaju na njih harpune i počinju ih vući

under the ice, and cuts it up.

pod led gdje ih sijeku.

And that would provide the community's food supply for a long time.

I to će zajednici osigurati dovoljno hrane na duže vrijeme.

So I went up there, and I lived with these guys

Tako smo otišli tamo i živjeli s tim ljudima

out in their whaling camp here, and photographed the entire experience,

u tom kampu i fotografirali to cjelokupno iskustvo,

beginning with the taxi ride to Newark airport in New York,

od početka i vožnje taksijem do Newarkškog aerodroma u New Yorku,

and ending with the butchering of the second whale, seven and a half days later.

do kraja i trančiranja drugog kita, sedam i pol dana kasnije.

I photographed that entire experience at five-minute intervals.

Fotografirao sam cijelo iskustvo u intervalima od po 5 minuta.

So every five minutes, I took a photograph.

Dakle, svakih 5 minuta sam slikao.

When I was awake, with the camera around my neck.

Kada sam bio budan, kamera je bila cijelo vrijeme oko vrata;

When I was sleeping, with a tripod and a timer.

kada sam spavao, tu su bili tronožac i tajmer.

And then in moments of high adrenaline,

I onda u trenucima visokog adrenalina,

like when something exciting was happening,

kada se nešto uzbudljivo događalo,

I would up that photographic frequency to as many as

povećao bih frekvenciju fotografiranja do maksimalnih

37 photographs in five minutes.

37 fotografija u 5 minuta.

So what this created was a photographic heartbeat

Tako smo kreirali fotografske otkucaje srca

that sped up and slowed down, more or less matching

koji su se ubrzavali i usporavali, više ili manje simulirajući

the changing pace of my own heartbeat.

promjene ritma mog srca.

That was the first concept here.

To je prvi koncept.

The second concept was to use this experience to think about

Drugi koncept je korištenje iskustva kako bi se promislilo o

the fundamental components of any story.

ključnim komponentama bilo koje priče.

What are the things that make up a story?

Koje su to komponente koje čine priču?

So, stories have characters. Stories have concepts.

Dakle, svaka priča ima protagniste. Priče imaju koncepte.

Stories take place in a certain area. They have contexts.

Priče se odvijaju u nekom području. Imaju kontekst.

They have colors. What do they look like?

Imaju boje. Kako izgledaju?

They have time. When did it take place? Dates -- when did it occur?

Imaju vrijeme. Kada su se dogodile? Kojeg datuma?

And in the case of the whale hunt, also this idea of an excitement level.

I u slučaju lova na kitove, zanimljiva je ideja o razini uzbuđenja.

The thing about stories, though, in most of the existing mediums

Ključna stvar vezana uz priče, u većini postojećih medija

that we're accustomed to -- things like novels, radio,

na koje smo naviknuli -- poput novela, radija,

photographs, movies, even lectures like this one --

fotografije, filmova, čak i predavanja poput ovoga --

we're very accustomed to this idea of the narrator or the camera position,

prilično smo naviknuti na ideju naratora ili položaja foto aparata.

some kind of omniscient, external body

Neku vrstu sveznajućeg eksternog tijela

through whose eyes you see the story.

kroz čije oči možemo vidjeti priču.

We're very used to this.

Jako smo naviknuti na to.

But if you think about real life, it's not like that at all.

Ali ako razmislite o stvarnom životu onda stvari uopće nisu takve.

I mean, in real life, things are much more nuanced and complex,

U stvarnom životu, stvari su slojevitije i složenije,

and there's all of these overlapping stories

i postoji cijeli niz priča koje se međusobno preklapaju

intersecting and touching each other.

prelazeći i dodirujući jedna drugu.

And so I thought it would be interesting to build a framework

Tako sam razmišljao da bi bilo interesantno izgraditi okvir

to surface those types of stories. So, in the case of "The Whale Hunt,"

koji bi poslužio kao podloga za sve te priče. Tako u slučaju "Lova na kitove",

how could we extract something like the story of Simeon and Crawford,

razmišljao sam kako izvući sukus poput priče o Simeonu i Crawfordu,

involving the concepts of wildlife, tools and blood, taking place on the Arctic Ocean,

uključujući koncept divljeg života, alata i krvi, koji bi se odvijao na Artičkom oceanu

dominated by the color red, happening around 10 a.m. on May 3,

s dominirajućom crvenom bojom, koji se događa oko 10:00 ujutro 3. svibnja

with an excitement level of high?

s visokom razinom uzbuđenja?

So, how to extract this order of narrative from this larger story?

Dakle, kako izvući tu narativnu srž iz veće priče?

I built a web interface for viewing "The Whale Hunt" that attempts to do just this.

Izgradio sam mrežno sučelje za "Lov na kitove" čija je svrha bila upravo to.

So these are all 3,214 pictures taken up there.

Ovo je svih 3,214 fotografija koje smo snimili tamo.

This is my studio in Brooklyn. This is the Arctic Ocean,

Ovo je moj studio u Brooklynu. Ovo je Artički ocean,

and the butchering of the second whale, seven days later.

i prizor trančiranja drugog kita, sedam dana kasnije.

You can start to see some of the story here, told by color.

Ovdje možete vidjeti dio priče koju priča boja.

So this red strip signifies the color of the wallpaper

Tako ova crvena traka označava boju tapete

in the basement apartment where I was staying.

stana u suterenu u kojem sam bio.

And things go white as we move out onto the Arctic Ocean.

I stvari postaju bjelijima dok idemo na Artički ocean.

Introduction of red down here, when whales are being cut up.

Uvodeći crvenu ovdje, dok se kitovi sijeku.

You can see a timeline, showing you the exciting moments throughout the story.

Možete vidjeti vremenski slijed, koji pokazuje uzbudljive trenutke ove priče.

These are organized chronologically.

Oni su kronološki organizirani.

Wheel provides a slightly more playful version of the same,

Kotač osigurava nešto zaigraniju verziju istoga,

so these are also all the photographs organized chronologically.

gdje su sve ove fotografije organizirane kronološki.

And any of these can be clicked,

I na svaku od njih se može kliknuti,

and then the narrative is entered at that position.

te naracija počinje od tog mjesta.

So here I am sleeping on the airplane heading up to Alaska.

Ovdje sam ja dok spavam u avionu za Aljasku.

That's "Moby Dick."

Ovo je Moby Dick.

This is the food we ate.

Ovo je hrana koju smo jeli.

This is in the Patkotak's family living room

Ovo je dnevna soba obitelji Patkotak

in their house in Barrow. The boxed wine they served us.

u njihovom domu u Barrowu. Vino koje su nam servirali.

Cigarette break outside -- I don't smoke.

Pauza vani za cigarete -- ja ne pušim.

This is a really exciting sequence of me sleeping.

Ovo je stvarno uzbudljiva sekvenca mene dok spavam.

This is out at whale camp, on the Arctic Ocean.

Ovo je snimljeno vani u kampu, na Artičkom oceanu.

This graph that I'm clicking down here is meant to be

Ovaj graf na koji klikam tu dolje je zamišljen kao

reminiscent of a medical heartbeat graph,

kopija medicinskog grafa kojim se bilježe otkucaji srca,

showing the exciting moments of adrenaline.

prikazujući uzbudljive trenutke prepune adrenalina.

This is the ice starting to freeze over. The snow fence they built.

Ovdje vidimo led koji se smrzava. Snježna ograda koju su izgradili.

And so what I'll show you now is the ability to pull out sub-stories.

Ovdje ću vam pokazati mogućnost da izvućete pod-priče.

So, here you see the cast. These are all of the people in "The Whale Hunt"

Ovdje možete vidjeti članove glumačke ekipe. Ovo su svi ljudi u "Lovu na kitove",

and the two whales that were killed down here.

i dva kita koja su ubijena tamo.

And we could do something as arbitrary as, say,

Možemo učiniti nešto proizvoljno, na primjer

extract the story of Rony, involving the concepts of blood

izvuči priču o Ronyu, s konceptom krvi

and whales and tools, taking place on the Arctic Ocean,

i kitova i alata, koja će se odvijati na Artičkom oceanu,

at Ahkivgaq camp, with the heartbeat level of fast.

u Ahkivgaq kampu, uz veliki broj otkucaja srca.

And now we've whittled down that whole story

I sada smo sveli tu cijelu priču

to just 29 matching photographs,

na samo 29 magičnih fotografija,

and then we can enter the narrative at that position.

i na tom mjestu možemo uči u narativni dio.

And you can see Rony cutting up the whale here.

Sada možete vidjeti Ronya kako ovdje reže kita.

These whales are about 40 feet long,

Ti kitovi su dugački oko 12 metara

and weighing over 40 tons. And they provide the food source

i teški su oko 40 tona. Oni osiguravaju dovoljno hrane

for the community for much of the year.

za zajednicu kroz cijelu godinu.

Skipping ahead a bit more here, this is Rony on the whale carcass.

Ako preskočimo neke dijelove prema naprijed, ovo je Rony na kitovom truplu.

They use no chainsaws or anything; it's entirely just blades,

Oni ne upotrebljavaju motorne pile, već sve rade noževima

and an incredibly efficient process.

i to na nevjerojatno učinkovit način.

This is the guys on the rope, pulling open the carcass.

Ovdje su ljudi na užetu koji otvaraju kita.

This is the muktuk, or the blubber, all lined up for community distribution.

Ovo je ulje, spremno za distribuciju u zajednici.

It's baleen. Moving on.

Ovo su kitovi zubi. Idemo dalje.

So what I'm going to tell you about next

Ono o ćemu ću vam dalje govoriti

is a very new thing. It's not even a project yet.

jest jako nova stvar. To čak još i nije projekt.

So, just yesterday, I flew in here from Singapore, and before that,

Jučer sam doletio ovdje iz Singapura i prije toga,

I was spending two weeks in Bhutan, the small Himalayan kingdom

proveo sam dva tjedna u Butanu, malom kraljestvu na Himalajima

nestled between Tibet and India.

ugniježdenom između Tibeta i Indije.

And I was doing a project there about happiness,

Tamo sam radio na projektu o radosti,

interviewing a lot of local people.

intervjuirajući mnogo lokalnih ljudi.

So Bhutan has this really wacky thing where they base

Butan ima taj stvarno ludi koncept gdje temelje

most of their high-level governmental decisions around the concept

većinu vladinih odluka oko koncepta

of gross national happiness instead of gross domestic product,

bruto nacionalne radosti, umjesto bruto domaćeg proizvoda,

and they've been doing this since the '70s.

i to rade od 1970ih.

And it leads to just a completely different value system.

To ih je dovelo do potpuno drugačijeg vrijednosnog sustava.

It's an incredibly non-materialistic culture,

To je nevjerojatno nematerijalistička kultura

where people don't have a lot, but they're incredibly happy.

gdje ljudi nemaju puno, ali su nevjerojatno sretni.

So I went around and I talked to people about some of these ideas.

Tamo sam išao naokolo i razgovarao s ljudima o nekim idejama.

So, I did a number of things. I asked people a number of set questions,

Tako sam napravio brojne stvari. Pitao sam ljude brojna pitanja,

and took a number of set photographs,

napravio sam veliki broj fotografija,

and interviewed them with audio, and also took pictures.

snimao intervjue s ljudima istovremeno fotografirajući.

I would start by asking people to rate their happiness

Započeo bih tako što sam pitao ljude da ocjene svoju radost

between one and 10, which is kind of inherently absurd.

od 1 do 10, što je samo po sebi besmisleno.

And then when they answered, I would inflate that number of balloons

Kada bi mi odgovorili, napuhao bih toliki broj balona

and give them that number of balloons to hold.

i dao im da ih drže.

So, you have some really happy person holding 10 balloons,

Tako imamo neke jako sretne ljude koji drže 10 balona

and some really sad soul holding one balloon.

i jako tužne koji drže samo jedan balon.

But you know, even holding one balloon is like, kind of happy.

Ali čak i kada držite samo jedan balon, to izgleda na nekim način veselo.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

And then I would ask them a number of questions like

Onda bih ih pitao brojna pitanja poput

what was the happiest day in their life, what makes them happy.

koji im je najsretniji dan u životu; što ih čini sretnima;

And then finally, I would ask them to make a wish.

da bi ih na kraju pitao da zažele želju.

And when they made a wish, I would write their wish

I kada bi zaželjeli, zapisao bih njihovu želju

onto one of the balloons and take a picture of them holding it.

na jedan od balona i onda bih ih slikao dok drže taj balon.

So I'm going to show you now just a few brief snippets

Sada ću vam pokazati nekoliko kratkih izrezaka

of some of the interviews that I did, some of the people I spoke with.

intervjua koje sam napravio, gdje ćete vidjeti ljude s kojima sam razgovarao.

This is an 11-year-old student.

Ovo je 11ogodišnji učenik.

He was playing cops and robbers with his friends, running around town,

Igrao se lopova i policajaca trćeći po gradu sa svojim prijateljima

and they all had plastic toy guns.

i svi su imali plastične pištolje igračke.

His wish was to become a police officer.

Njegova želja je bila da postane policajac.

He was getting started early. Those were his hands.

Započeo je rano. Ovo su njegove ruke.

I took pictures of everybody's hands,

Svima sam slikao ruke,

because I think you can often tell a lot about somebody

jer mislim da možete puno zaključiti o osobi

from how their hands look. I took a portrait of everybody,

vidjevši im ruke. Svakome sam uzeo i portet

and asked everybody to make a funny face.

i svakoga sam zamolio da napravi smiješnu grimasu.

A 17-year-old student. Her wish was to have been born a boy.

17ogodišnja učenica. Njena želja je bila da se rodi kao dečko.

She thinks that women have a pretty tough go of things in Bhutan,

Ona misli kako žene imaju prilično težak život u Butanu

and it's a lot easier if you're a boy.

i da vam je život bitno lakši ako ste muško.

A 28-year-old cell phone shop owner.

28ogodišnji vlasnik dućana s mobitelima.

If you knew what Paro looked like, you'd understand

Kada biste znali kako izgleda Paro, razumijeli biste

how amazing it is that there's a cell phone shop there.

koliko je zadivljujuće da postoji dućan s mobitelima.

He wanted to help poor people.

On želio pomoći siromašnim ljudima.

A 53-year-old farmer. She was chaffing wheat,

53ogodišnja farmerica. Ona je razdvajala žito

and that pile of wheat behind her

i za ovu hrpu žita iza nje

had taken her about a week to make.

bilo joj je potrebno tjedan dana.

She wanted to keep farming until she dies.

Ona se želi baviti svojim poslom do kraja života.

You can really start to see the stories told by the hands here.

Ovdje možete stvarno vidjeti priče koje pričaju ruke.

She was wearing this silver ring that had the word "love" engraved on it,

Nosila je ovaj srebrni prsten koji je imao ugraviranu riječ "ljubav",

and she'd found it in the road somewhere.

pronašla ga je negdje na cesti.

A 16-year-old quarry worker.

16ogodišnji radnik u kamenolomu.

This guy was breaking rocks with a hammer in the hot sunlight,

Ovaj dečko lomi stijene čekičem pod žarkim suncem,

but he just wanted to spend his life as a farmer.

a htio bi samo provesti život kao farmer.

A 21-year-old monk. He was very happy.

21ogodišnji redovnik. On je bio jako sretan.

He wanted to live a long life at the monastery.

Želio je dugačak život u samostanu.

He had this amazing series of hairs growing out of a mole on the left side of his face,

Imao je nevjerojatnu količinu dlaka koje su rasle iz madeža s lijeve strane lica,

which I'm told is very good luck.

za koje su mi rekli da simboliziraju sreću.

He was kind of too shy to make a funny face.

Bio je previše sramežljiv za grimasu.

A 16-year-old student.

16ogodišnja učenica.

She wanted to become an independent woman.

Ona je željela postati nezavisna žena.

I asked her about that, and she said she meant

Pitao sam je o tome, i objasnila mi je da to znači

that she doesn't want to be married,

da se ne želi udati

because, in her opinion, when you get married in Bhutan as a woman,

jer prema njenom mišljenju, kada se kao žena udaš u Butanu

your chances to live an independent life kind of end,

nestaje mogućnost da živiš nezavisan život

and so she had no interest in that.

i tako ona nije željela takvu sudbinu.

A 24-year-old truck driver.

24ogodišnji vozač kamiona.

There are these terrifyingly huge Indian trucks

To su ti zastrašujući ogromni Indijski kamioni

that come careening around one-lane roads with two-lane traffic,

koji se ljuljaju po dvosmjernim cestama sa samo jednom trakom

with 3,000-foot drop-offs right next to the road,

i ugibalištem na svakom kilometru.

and he was driving one of these trucks.

On je vozio jedan od tih kamiona.

But all he wanted was to just live a comfortable life, like other people.

Ali sve što je on želio jest da živi udoban život kao drugi ljudi.

A 24-year-old road sweeper. I caught her on her lunch break.

24ogodišnja čistačica ulica. Nju sam uhvatio za vrijeme pauze za ručak.

She'd built a little fire to keep warm, right next to the road.

Zapalila je malu vatru odmah uz cestu, kako bi se zagrijala.

Her wish was to marry someone with a car.

Njena želja je da se uda za nekoga tko ima auto.

She wanted a change in her life.

Ona je željela promjenu u svom životu.

She lives in a little worker's camp right next to the road,

Živi u malom radničkom kampu odmah uz cestu

and she wanted a different lot on things.

i željela je drugačiji život.

An 81-year-old itinerant farmer.

81ogodišnji sezonski farmer.

I saw this guy on the side of the road,

Ovoga čovjeka sam vidio kako hoda uz cestu

and he actually doesn't have a home.

jer on zapravo nema doma.

He travels from farm to farm each day trying to find work,

Putuje od farme do farme tražeći posao svaki dan

and then he tries to sleep at whatever farm he gets work at.

i onda spava na onoj farmi na kojoj dobije neki posao.

So his wish was to come with me, so that he had somewhere to live.

Njegova želja je bila da ode sa mnom, kako bi imao gdje živjeti.

He had this amazing knife that he pulled out of his gho

On je ima taj nevjerojatni nož kojeg je izvukao iz svoje tunike

and started brandishing when I asked him to make a funny face.

i krenuo mi je prijetiti kada sam ga pitao da napravi grimasu.

It was all good-natured.

Sve je to bilo u dobrom duhu.

A 10-year-old.

10ogodišnjak.

He wanted to join a school and learn to read,

On je želio ići u školu kako bi mogao naučiti čitati

but his parents didn't have enough money to send him to school.

ali njegovi roditelji nisu imali dovoljno novca da ga pošalju tamo.

He was eating this orange, sugary candy

On je jeo slatkiše od naranče

that he kept dipping his fingers into,

u koji je stalno umakao svoje prste

and since there was so much saliva on his hands,

i s obzirom da je bilo toliko sline na njegovim rukama

this orange paste started to form on his palms.

počela se stvarati narančasta smjesa na njegovim dlanovima.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

A 37-year-old road worker.

37ogodišnji radnik na cestama.

One of the more touchy political subjects in Bhutan

Jedna od osjetljivijih političkih stvari u Butanu

is the use of Indian cheap labor

jest korištenje jeftine radne snage iz Indije

that they import from India to build the roads,

koju uvoze kako bi sagradili ceste

and then they send these people home once the roads are built.

i po završetku gradnje te ljude šalju natrag kući u Indiju.

So these guys were in a worker's gang

I tako ti dečki u skupinama

mixing up asphalt one morning on the side of the highway.

svakog jutra miješaju asfalt uz autocestu.

His wish was to make some money and open a store.

Njegova želja je bila da zaradi dovoljno i otvori dućan.

A 75-year-old farmer. She was selling oranges on the side of the road.

75ogodišnja farmerica. Ona je prodavala naranče uz cestu.

I asked her about her wish, and she said,

Pitao sam je za njenu želju i rekla mi je,

"You know, maybe I'll live, maybe I'll die, but I don't have a wish."

"Znaš, možda ću živjeti, možda ću umrijeti, ali nemam želju."

She was chewing betel nut, which caused her teeth

Ona je žvakala palmine plodove, od čega su joj zubi

over the years to turn very red.

tijekom godina postali crveni.

Finally, this is a 26-year-old nun I spoke to.

Konačno, ovo je 26ogodišnja redovnica s kojom sam razgovarao.

Her wish was to make a pilgrimage to Tibet.

Njezina želja je bila hodočašće do Tibeta.

I asked her how long she planned to live in the nunnery and she said,

Pitao sam je koliko dugo želi živjeti kao redovnica i rekla mi je,

"Well, you know, of course, it's impermanent,

"Dakle, naravno da je to zauvijek

but my plan is to live here until I'm 30, and then enter a hermitage."

ali moj plan je da sam tamo do svoje 30 i onda ću se povući u osamu."

And I said, "You mean, like a cave?" And she said, "Yeah, like a cave."

Rekao sam:: "Mislite na nešto poput pećine?" I onda mi je odgovorila: "Da, nešto takvo."

And I said, "Wow, and how long will you live in the cave?"

"Wow, i koliko dugo mislite ostati u pećini?"

And she said, "Well, you know,

Odgovorila mi je: "Znate

I think I'd kind of like to live my whole life in the cave."

mislim da bih voljela provesti cijeli život u pećini."

I just thought that was amazing. I mean, she spoke in a way --

Pomislio sam da je to nevjerojatno. Mislim, razgovarala je na način --

with amazing English, and amazing humor, and amazing laughter --

s nevjerojatnim Engleskim, nevjerojatnim humorom i nevjerojatnim osmjehom --

that made her seem like somebody I could have bumped into

da se činlo da je netko na koga sam mogao naletjeti

on the streets of New York, or in Vermont, where I'm from.

na ulicama New Yorka ili Vermonta, od kuda je dolazim.

But here she had been living in a nunnery for the last seven years.

Ali ona je živjela u ženskom samostanu zadnjih sedam godina.

I asked her a little bit more about the cave

Pitao sam je još malo o pećini

and what she planned would happen once she went there, you know.

i što planira da će se dogoditi jednom kada tamo ode, znate.

What if she saw the truth after just one year,

Što ako će spoznati istinu nakon jedne godine,

what would she do for the next 35 years in her life?

što će raditi slijedećih 35 godina svog života?

And this is what she said.

I evo što mi je rekla.

Woman: I think I'm going to stay for 35. Maybe -- maybe I'll die.

Redovnica: Čini mi se da ću ostati do 35, onda možda -- možda ću umrijeti.

Jonathan Harris: Maybe you'll die? Woman: Yes.

John Harris: Možda ćete umrijeti? Redovnica: Da.

JH: 10 years? Woman: Yes, yes. JH: 10 years, that's a long time.

JH: 10 godina? Redovnica: Da, da. JH: 10 godina, to je puno vremena.

Woman: Yes, not maybe one, 10 years, maybe I can die

Redovnica: Da, ne možda jedna, deset godina, možda mogu umrijeti

within one year, or something like that.

u jednoj godini ili nešto takvo.

JH: Are you hoping to?

JH: Nadate li se tome?

Woman: Ah, because you know, it's impermanent.

Redovnica: Aha, jer je znate, to zauvijek.

JH: Yeah, but -- yeah, OK. Do you hope --

Jh: Da, ali -- da, OK. Nadate li se --

would you prefer to live in the cave for 40 years,

da ćete živjeti u pećini 40 godina,

or to live for one year?

ili da ćete živjeti jednu godinu?

Woman: But I prefer for maybe 40 to 50.

Redovnica: Preferiram 40-50.

JH: 40 to 50? Yeah.

JH: 40-50? Da.

Woman: Yes. From then, I'm going to the heaven.

Redovnica: Da. Od tamo ću ići u raj.

JH: Well, I wish you the best of luck with it.

JH: Dakle, želim vam najbolju sreću s time.

Woman: Thank you.

Redovnica: Hvala.

JH: I hope it's everything that you hope it will be.

JH: Nadam se da je to sve ono ćemu ste se nadali.

So thank you again, so much.

Dakle, hvala Vam još jednom, puno hvala.

Woman: You're most welcome.

Redovnica: Dobrodošli ste.

JH: So if you caught that, she said she hoped to die

JH: Dakle ako ste uhvatili. Ona se nada da će umrijeti

when she was around 40. That was enough life for her.

dok će imati oko 40 godina. To je dovoljno života za nju.

So, the last thing we did, very quickly,

I zadnja stvar koju smo napravili, jako brzo,

is I took all those wish balloons -- there were 117 interviews,

jest da sam uzeo sve te balone sa željama -- bilo je 117 intervjuiranih,

117 wishes -- and I brought them up to a place called Dochula,

117 želja -- i odnijeo ih do mjesta koje se zove Dochula,

which is a mountain pass in Bhutan, at 10,300 feet,

koje je planinski prijelaz na 3,140 metara,

one of the more sacred places in Bhutan.

jedno od najsvetijih mjesta u Butanu.

And up there, there are thousands of prayer flags

I tamo, se nalaze tisuće molitvenih zastava

that people have spread out over the years.

koje se ljudi postavili tijekom godina.

And we re-inflated all of the balloons, put them up on a string,

I tamo smo ponovno napuhali sve te balone i stavili ih na konop

and hung them up there among the prayer flags.

i objesili tamo među molitvene zastave.

And they're actually still flying up there today.

I tamo se još uvijek nalaze danas.

So if any of you have any Bhutan travel plans in the near future,

Dakle ako bilo tko od vas ima plan da otputuje u Butan u skoroj budućnosti,

you can go check these out. Here are some images from that.

možete ih vidjeti. Ovdje su neke od slika tih balona.

We said a Buddhist prayer so that all these wishes could come true.

Izmolili smo jednu Budističku molitvu kako bi se sve te želje ostvarile.

You can start to see some familiar balloons here.

Ovdje možete vidjeti neke poznate balone.

"To make some money and to open a store" was the Indian road worker.

"Zaraditi nešto novca i otvoriti dućan" je želja Indijskog radnika.

Thanks very much.

Hvala vam puno.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)