The Rise of Personal Robots | Cynthia Breazeal | TED Talks

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Prevodilac: Marija Milenovic Lektor: Sandra Gojic
00:15
Ever since I was a little girl
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Još od kada sam bila devojčica
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seeing "Star Wars" for the first time,
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i gledala "Ratove zvezda" prvi put,
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I've been fascinated by this idea
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bila sam fascinirana idejom
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of personal robots.
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o ličnim robotima.
00:24
And as a little girl,
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I kao devojčici
00:26
I loved the idea of a robot that interacted with us
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mi se jako dopala ideja da robot može da komunicira sa nama
00:28
much more like a helpful, trusted sidekick --
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više kao koristan i pouzdan prijatelj -
00:31
something that would delight us, enrich our lives
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nešto što bi nas oduševilo, obogatilo naše živote
00:33
and help us save a galaxy or two.
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i pomoglo nam da spasimo jednu ili dve galaksije.
00:37
I knew robots like that didn't really exist,
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Dakle, znala sam da takvi roboti zapravo ne postoje,
00:40
but I knew I wanted to build them.
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ali znala sam da želim da ih napravim.
00:42
So 20 years pass --
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Tako, posle 20 godina,
00:44
I am now a graduate student at MIT
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ja sam postdiplomac na MIT - u
00:46
studying artificial intelligence,
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izučavam veštačku inteligenciju,
00:48
the year is 1997,
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godina je 1997.
00:50
and NASA has just landed the first robot on Mars.
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i upravo je jedan robot NASA - e sleteo na Mars.
00:53
But robots are still not in our home, ironically.
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Ali roboti još uvek nisu u našim domovima - ironično.
00:56
And I remember thinking about
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I sećam se kako sam razmišljala o
00:58
all the reasons why that was the case.
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svim razlozima zašto je to tako.
01:00
But one really struck me.
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Ali jedan me je stvarno pogodio.
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Robotics had really been about interacting with things,
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Robotika se odnosila na interakciju sa stvarima,
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not with people --
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ne sa ljudima -
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certainly not in a social way that would be natural for us
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sigurno ne na način koji bi nam bio prirodan
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and would really help people accept robots
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i koji bi zaista omogućio ljudima da prihvate robote
01:11
into our daily lives.
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kao deo njihove svakodnevice.
01:13
For me, that was the white space; that's what robots could not do yet.
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Za mene, to je bio prazan prostor, nešto što roboti još uvek nisu mogli.
01:16
And so that year, I started to build this robot, Kismet,
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I tako sam te godine počela da pravim ovog robota, Kismeta,
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the world's first social robot.
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prvog društvenog robota ovoga sveta.
01:22
Three years later --
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Pa, posle tri godine,
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a lot of programming,
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puno programiranja,
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working with other graduate students in the lab --
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rada sa kolegama u laboratoriji,
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Kismet was ready to start interacting with people.
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Kismet je bio spreman da počne interakciju sa ljudima.
01:30
(Video) Scientist: I want to show you something.
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(Video) Naučnik: "Želim da ti pokažem nešto."
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Kismet: (Nonsense)
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Kismet: (Gluposti).
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Scientist: This is a watch that my girlfriend gave me.
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Naučnik: "Ovo je sat koji sam dobio od svoje devojke."
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Kismet: (Nonsense)
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Kismet: (Gluposti).
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Scientist: Yeah, look, it's got a little blue light in it too.
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Naučnik: "Da, gledaj, ima malo plavo svetlo, takođe.
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I almost lost it this week.
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Umalo da ga izgubim ove nedelje."
01:44
Cynthia Breazeal: So Kismet interacted with people
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Sintija Bizl: Kismet je komunicirao sa ljudima
01:47
like kind of a non-verbal child or pre-verbal child,
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nalik detetu koje još ne govori ili tek počinje da govori,
01:50
which I assume was fitting because it was really the first of its kind.
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što smatram napretkom s obzirom na to da je bio prvi te vrste.
01:53
It didn't speak language, but it didn't matter.
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Nije govorio, ali to nije bilo bitno.
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This little robot was somehow able
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Ovaj mali robot je nekako umeo
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to tap into something deeply social within us --
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da podstakne nešto veoma socijalno u nama.
02:00
and with that, the promise of an entirely new way
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A tako i obećanje jednog sasvim novog načina
02:02
we could interact with robots.
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na koji bismo imali interakciju sa robotima.
02:04
So over the past several years
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Tokom poslednjih nekoliko godina.
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I've been continuing to explore this interpersonal dimension of robots,
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nastavila sam da istražujem ovu interpersonalnu dimenziju robota
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now at the media lab
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sada, u laboratoriji za medije,
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with my own team of incredibly talented students.
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sa svojim timom neverovatno talentovanih studenata.
02:12
And one of my favorite robots is Leonardo.
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I jedan od mojih omiljenih robota je Leonardo.
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We developed Leonardo in collaboration with Stan Winston Studio.
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Napravili smo Leonarda u saradnji sa Sten Vinston Studijom.
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And so I want to show you a special moment for me of Leo.
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I želim da vam pokažem svoj omiljeni trenutak u vezi Lea.
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This is Matt Berlin interacting with Leo,
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Ovo je Met Berlin u interakciji sa Leom,
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introducing Leo to a new object.
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dok mu pokazuje novi predmet.
02:25
And because it's new, Leo doesn't really know what to make of it.
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I, zato što je nov, Leo ne zna šta zapravo da radi s njim.
02:28
But sort of like us, he can actually learn about it
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Ali, na neki način slično nama, on može da nauči o tome
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from watching Matt's reaction.
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gledajući Metovu reakciju.
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(Video) Matt Berlin: Hello, Leo.
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(Video) Met Berlin: "Zdravo, Leo.
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Leo, this is Cookie Monster.
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Leo, ovo je Kolačožder.
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Can you find Cookie Monster?
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Možeš li da pokažeš Kolačoždera?
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Leo, Cookie Monster is very bad.
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Leo, Kolačožder je veoma loš.
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He's very bad, Leo.
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On je veoma loš, Leo.
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Cookie Monster is very, very bad.
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Kolačožder je veoma, veoma loš.
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He's a scary monster.
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On je strašno čudovište.
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He wants to get your cookies.
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On želi da uzme tvoje kolačiće.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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CB: All right, so Leo and Cookie
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SB: U redu. Pa, Leo i Kolačožder
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might have gotten off to a little bit of a rough start,
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su možda imali klimav početak,
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but they get along great now.
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ali sada se odlično slažu.
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So what I've learned
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Dakle, ono što sam naučila
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through building these systems
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kroz stvaranje ovih sistema
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is that robots are actually
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je da su roboti zapravo
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a really intriguing social technology,
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veoma zagonetna tehnologija.
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where it's actually their ability
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Gde njihova sposobnost
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to push our social buttons
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da pritisnu naše društvene tastere
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and to interact with us like a partner
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i da komuniciramo sa njima kao sa partnerima,
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that is a core part of their functionality.
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čini glavni deo njihove funkcionalnosti.
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And with that shift in thinking, we can now start to imagine
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I sa tom izmenom u razmišljanju, sada možemo početi sa otvaranjem
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new questions, new possibilities for robots
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novih pitanja, novih mogućnosti za robote,
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that we might not have thought about otherwise.
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na koje ranije nismo ni pomišljali.
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But what do I mean when I say "push our social buttons?"
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Ali, na šta mislim kada kažem "pritisnu naše društvene tastere"?
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Well, one of the things that we've learned
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Pa, jedna od stvari koju smo naučili
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is that, if we design these robots to communicate with us
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je da, ukoliko dizajniramo ove robote da komuniciraju sa nama
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using the same body language,
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koristeći isti govor tela,
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the same sort of non-verbal cues that people use --
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istu vrstu neverbalnih znakova koje ljudi koriste -
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like Nexi, our humanoid robot, is doing here --
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kao što Neksi (Nexi), naš humanoidni robot, radi ovde -
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what we find is that people respond to robots
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otkrivamo da ljudi reaguju na robote
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a lot like they respond to people.
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veoma slično kao što reaguju na druge ljude.
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People use these cues to determine things like how persuasive someone is,
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Ljudi koriste ove znake da utvrde koliko je neko ubedljiv,
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how likable, how engaging,
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dopadljiv, privlačan,
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how trustworthy.
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pouzdan.
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It turns out it's the same for robots.
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Ispostavlja se da je isto sa robotima.
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It's turning out now
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Ispostavlja se
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that robots are actually becoming a really interesting new scientific tool
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da roboti postaju novo, veoma zanimljivo, naučno sredstvo
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to understand human behavior.
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za razumevanje ljudskog ponašanja.
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To answer questions like, how is it that, from a brief encounter,
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Da bismo odgovorili na pitanja kao kako je moguće da na osnovu kratkog
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we're able to make an estimate of how trustworthy another person is?
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susreta možemo proceniti koliko je neko pouzdan.
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Mimicry's believed to play a role, but how?
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Verovalo se da mimika igra ulogu, ali kako?
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Is it the mimicking of particular gestures that matters?
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Da li je oponašanje određenih gestova važno?
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It turns out it's really hard
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Izgleda da je veoma teško
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to learn this or understand this from watching people
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da ovo zaključimo na osnovu posmatranja ljudi
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because when we interact we do all of these cues automatically.
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zato što prilikom interakcije sve te znake manifestujemo automatski.
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We can't carefully control them because they're subconscious for us.
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Ne možemo ih pažljivo kontrolisati jer su za nas podsvesni.
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But with the robot, you can.
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Ali sa robotom možete.
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And so in this video here --
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I tako u ovom videu ovde -
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this is a video taken from David DeSteno's lab at Northeastern University.
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ovo je video uzet iz laboratorije Dejvida DeStenoa sa Northeastern Univerziteta.
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He's a psychologist we've been collaborating with.
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On je psiholog sa kojim smo sarađivali.
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There's actually a scientist carefully controlling Nexi's cues
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Zapravo jedan naučnik pažljivo prati Neksijeve znakove
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to be able to study this question.
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da bi mogao da istraži ovo pitanje.
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And the bottom line is -- the reason why this works is
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Kad podvučemo crtu - razlog zbog koga ovo funcioniše
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because it turns out people just behave like people
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je taj da se ljudi ponašaju kao ljudi
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even when interacting with a robot.
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čak i kada komuniciraju sa robotom.
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So given that key insight,
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Sa tim ključnim zapažanjem,
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we can now start to imagine
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sada možemo početi da smišljamo
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new kinds of applications for robots.
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nove primene za robote.
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For instance, if robots do respond to our non-verbal cues,
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Na primer, ako roboti odgovore na naše neverbalne znake
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maybe they would be a cool, new communication technology.
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možda će predstavljati neku novu, kul, komunikacionu tehnologiju.
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So imagine this:
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Pa zamislite ovo:
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What about a robot accessory for your cellphone?
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Šta bi bilo da imate dodatak u vidu robota za Vaš mobilni telefon?
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You call your friend, she puts her handset in a robot,
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Pozovete prijateljicu, ona stavi telefon u robot
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and, bam! You're a MeBot --
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i bam! Vi ste JaBot -
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you can make eye contact, you can talk with your friends,
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možete da uspostavite kontakt očima, da razgovarate sa svojim prijateljima,
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you can move around, you can gesture --
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da se mrdate, da gestikulirate;
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maybe the next best thing to really being there, or is it?
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možda prva najbolja stvar posle Vašeg stvarnog prisustva?
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To explore this question,
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Da bi istražio ovo pitanje
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my student, Siggy Adalgeirsson, did a study
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moj student, Sigi Adalgejrson, je uradio studiju
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where we brought human participants, people, into our lab
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u kojoj su učesnici bili ljudi i u laboratoriji su
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to do a collaborative task
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imali kolaborativni zadatak
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with a remote collaborator.
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sa mobilnim kolaboratorom.
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The task involved things
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Zadatak je obuhvatao stvari
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like looking at a set of objects on the table,
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kao posmatranje predmeta na stolu,
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discussing them in terms of their importance and relevance to performing a certain task --
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diskutovanje o njihovom značaju i relevantnosti za izvođenje određenog zadatka.
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this ended up being a survival task --
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i završio je kao zadatak za preživljavanje -
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and then rating them in terms
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i onda su ga vrednovali na osnovu
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of how valuable and important they thought they were.
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toga koliko su ga smatrali korisnim i značajnim.
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The remote collaborator was an experimenter from our group
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Mobilni kolaborator je bio istraživač iz naše grupe
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who used one of three different technologies
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gde su koristili jednu od tri različite vrste tehnologija
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to interact with the participants.
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da vrše interakciju sa drugim učesnicima.
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The first was just the screen.
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Tako je prva bila samo ekran.
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This is just like video conferencing today.
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To je kao video konferencija danas.
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The next was to add mobility -- so, have the screen on a mobile base.
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Sledeća je imala funkciju mobilnosti, pa se ekran nalazio na pokretnom postolju.
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This is like, if you're familiar with any of the telepresence robots today --
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Ovo je kao, ako ste upoznati sa nekim teleprisustvom robota danas -
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this is mirroring that situation.
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oslikava takvu situaciju.
06:19
And then the fully expressive MeBot.
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I, najzad, potpuno ekspresivan JaBot.
06:21
So after the interaction,
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Dakle, posle interakcija sa mobilnim kolaboratorom
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we asked people to rate their quality of interaction
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pitali smo ljude da na osnovu više kriterijuma
06:26
with the technology, with a remote collaborator
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ocene njihov kvalitet,
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through this technology, in a number of different ways.
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u zavisnosti od vrste tehnologije.
06:31
We looked at psychological involvement --
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Istraživali smo psihološki momenat -
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how much empathy did you feel for the other person?
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koliko empatije su osetili prema drugoj osobi.
06:35
We looked at overall engagement.
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Istraživali smo ukupan doživljaj.
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We looked at their desire to cooperate.
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Istraživali smo i njihovu želju da sarađuju.
06:39
And this is what we see when they use just the screen.
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I ovo je šta vidimo prilikom upotrebe samo ekrana.
06:42
It turns out, when you add mobility -- the ability to roll around the table --
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Ispostavlja se da se kada se doda pokretljivost - sposobnost da se kreće po stolu -
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you get a little more of a boost.
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interesovanje i angažovanje ispitanika povećava.
06:47
And you get even more of a boost when you add the full expression.
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Ono postaje još veće kada dodate ceo izraz.
06:50
So it seems like this physical, social embodiment
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Tako da izgleda da ovo otelotvoravanje
06:52
actually really makes a difference.
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zapravo pravo razliku.
06:54
Now let's try to put this into a little bit of context.
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Sada, hajde da malo povežemo stvari.
06:57
Today we know that families are living further and further apart,
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Znamo da danas članovi porodice žive sve dalje i dalje jedni od drugih
07:00
and that definitely takes a toll on family relationships
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i da to definitivno loše utiče na njihove odnose
07:02
and family bonds over distance.
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i međusobne veze.
07:04
For me, I have three young boys,
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Za mene, imam tri mlada dečaka,
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and I want them to have a really good relationship
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i želim da oni imaju dobre odnose
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with their grandparents.
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sa svojim bakom i dekom.
07:10
But my parents live thousands of miles away,
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Ali, moji roditelji žive hiljadama milja daleko,
07:12
so they just don't get to see each other that often.
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pa ne mogu baš često da se viđaju.
07:14
We try Skype, we try phone calls,
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Probamo Skype, probamo telefone,
07:16
but my boys are little -- they don't really want to talk;
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ali moji dečaci su mali - oni baš i ne žele da razgovaraju,
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they want to play.
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već da se igraju.
07:20
So I love the idea of thinking about robots
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Zato se meni jako dopada ideja da razmišljamo o robotima
07:22
as a new kind of distance-play technology.
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kao o novoj vrsti igračke na daljinu.
07:25
I imagine a time not too far from now --
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I ja zamišljam da će uskoro
07:28
my mom can go to her computer,
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moja mama, preko svog kompjutera,
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open up a browser and jack into a little robot.
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da otvori pretraživač i uskoči u malog robota.
07:32
And as grandma-bot,
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I kao baka-bot,
07:35
she can now play, really play,
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moći će da se onda igra, zaista igra,
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with my sons, with her grandsons,
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sa mojim sinovima, svojim unucima,
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in the real world with his real toys.
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u stvarnom svetu sa njihovim pravim igračkama.
07:42
I could imagine grandmothers being able to do social-plays
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Mogu da zamislim bake kako se igraju pretvaranja
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with their granddaughters, with their friends,
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sa svojim unukama, sa njihovim drugaricama,
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and to be able to share all kinds of other activities around the house,
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i kako mogu da dele i druge aktivnosti po kući,
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like sharing a bedtime story.
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kao, čitanje priče za laku noć.
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And through this technology,
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I kroz ovu tehnologiju
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being able to be an active participant
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oni će imati aktivno učešće
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in their grandchildren's lives
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u životima svojih unuka
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in a way that's not possible today.
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na način koji danas nije moguć.
07:58
Let's think about some other domains,
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Hajde da razmislimo i o nekim drugim oblastima,
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like maybe health.
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kao, na primer, zdravlje.
08:02
So in the United States today,
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Tako u Ujedinjenim Državama danas
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over 65 percent of people are either overweight or obese,
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preko 65 procenata ljudi ima prekomernu telesnu težinu ili je gojazno
08:07
and now it's a big problem with our children as well.
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i sada je to veliki problem i sa našom decom.
08:09
And we know that as you get older in life,
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I znamo da kako starimo
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if you're obese when you're younger, that can lead to chronic diseases
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ako smo gojazni dok smo mlađi to vodi ka hroničnim bolestima
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that not only reduce your quality of life,
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koje ne samo da umanjuju kvalitet našeg života
08:16
but are a tremendous economic burden on our health care system.
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već su i ogroman ekonomski teret za naš zdravstveni sistem.
08:19
But if robots can be engaging,
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Ali, ako uključimo robote,
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if we like to cooperate with robots,
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ukoliko nam se dopadne da sarađujemo s njima,
08:23
if robots are persuasive,
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ako su roboti ubedljivi,
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maybe a robot can help you
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možda vam robot može pomoći
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maintain a diet and exercise program,
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da ne prekidate dijetu ili program za vežbanje,
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maybe they can help you manage your weight.
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možda oni mogu pomoći u regulisanju telesne težine.
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Sort of like a digital Jiminy --
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Tako, na neki način, kao digitalni duh iz lampe,
08:34
as in the well-known fairy tale --
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kao u dobro poznatoj bajci,
08:36
a kind of friendly, supportive presence that's always there
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vrsta prijateljskog prisustva u vidu oslonca koji je uvek tu
08:38
to be able to help you make the right decision
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da vam pomogne da donesete prave odluke
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in the right way at the right time
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na pravi način, u pravo vreme.
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to help you form healthy habits.
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da vam pomogne da ustanovite zdrave navike.
08:44
So we actually explored this idea in our lab.
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Mi smo zapravo istražili ovu ideju u našoj laboratoriji.
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This is a robot, Autom.
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Ovo je robot, Autom.
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Cory Kidd developed this robot for his doctoral work.
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Kori Kid je razvio ovog robota za svoj doktorski rad.
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And it was designed to be a robot diet-and-exercise coach.
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I dizajniran je da bude trener za dijetu i vežbe.
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It had a couple of simple non-verbal skills it could do.
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Umeo je da radi dve neverbalne stvari.
08:56
It could make eye contact with you.
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Mogao je da uspostavi kontakt očima.
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It could share information looking down at a screen.
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Mogao je da daje informacije gledajući dole, u ekran,
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You'd use a screen interface to enter information,
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Upotrebili biste interfejs na ekranu da pristupite informaciji,
09:02
like how many calories you ate that day,
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o količini kalorija koje ste uneli tokom dana,
09:04
how much exercise you got.
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koliko ste vežbali.
09:06
And then it could help track that for you.
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I onda bi vam pomogao u praćenju tih podataka.
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And the robot spoke with a synthetic voice
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I, robot je imao sintetički glas
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to engage you in a coaching dialogue
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da bi vas uključio u dijalog kao sa trenerom
09:12
modeled after trainers
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kreiran po trenerima
09:14
and patients and so forth.
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i pacijentima, i tako dalje.
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And it would build a working alliance with you
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I stvorio bi radni savez sa vama
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through that dialogue.
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kroz dijalog.
09:20
It could help you set goals and track your progress,
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Pomogao bi vam da postavite svoje ciljeve i pratite svoj napredak,
09:22
and it would help motivate you.
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kao i što bi vas motivisao.
09:24
So an interesting question is,
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Pa, zanimljivo pitanje je
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does the social embodiment really matter? Does it matter that it's a robot?
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da li ovakvo fizičko prisustvo stvarno znači? Da li ima veze što je u pitanju robot?
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Is it really just the quality of advice and information that matters?
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Da li je zapravo samo važan kvalitet saveta i informacija?
09:32
To explore that question,
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Tako, da bismo rešili ovo pitanje,
09:34
we did a study in the Boston area
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izvršili smo studiju u okolini Bostona
09:36
where we put one of three interventions in people's homes
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gde smo stavili jednu od tri intervencije u domove ljudi
09:39
for a period of several weeks.
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za period od nekoliko nedelja.
09:41
One case was the robot you saw there, Autom.
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Jedan slučaj je bio robot koga ste tamo videli, Autom.
09:44
Another was a computer that ran the same touch-screen interface,
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Drugi je bio kompjuter koji je imao isti interfejs na ekranu koji reaguje na dodir,
09:47
ran exactly the same dialogues.
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vodio je i potpuno iste dijaloge.
09:49
The quality of advice was identical.
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Kvalitet saveta je bio identičan.
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And the third was just a pen and paper log,
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A treći je bio samo papir i tabela.
09:53
because that's the standard intervention you typically get
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zato što to je standardna intervencija koju tipično dobijete
09:55
when you start a diet-and-exercise program.
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kada počnete sa dijetom i vežbanjem.
09:58
So one of the things we really wanted to look at
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Jedna od stvari koji smo hteli da ispitamo
10:01
was not how much weight people lost,
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nije bila koliko su ljudi izgubili na težini,
10:04
but really how long they interacted with the robot.
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nego koliko dugo su zapravo komunicirali sa robotom.
10:07
Because the challenge is not losing weight, it's actually keeping it off.
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Zato što izazov nije bio gubljenje težine, već nedodavanje iste.
10:10
And the longer you could interact with one of these interventions,
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I što ste duže koristili jednu od ove tri intervencije,
10:13
well that's indicative, potentially, of longer-term success.
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pa, to je ukazivalo na, potencijalno, bolji ishod.
10:16
So the first thing I want to look at is how long,
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Prva stvar koju bih da pogledamo je koliko dugo,
10:18
how long did people interact with these systems.
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koliko su dugo ljudi koristili ove sisteme.
10:20
It turns out that people interacted with the robot
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Ispostavilo se da su ljudi radili sa robotima
10:22
significantly more,
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znatno duže,
10:24
even though the quality of the advice was identical to the computer.
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iako je kvalitet saveta bio identičan onom preko kompjutera.
10:28
When it asked people to rate it on terms of the quality of the working alliance,
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Kada su ljudi upitani da ih rangiraju na osnovu kvaliteta radnog saveza.
10:31
people rated the robot higher
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roboti su bolje rangirani
10:33
and they trusted the robot more.
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i ljudi su im više verovali.
10:35
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:37
And when you look at emotional engagement,
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A kada pogledamo na emotivnu povezanost
10:39
it was completely different.
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bilo je potpuno drugačije.
10:41
People would name the robots.
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Ljudi bi davali imena robotima.
10:43
They would dress the robots.
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Oblačili bi robote.
10:45
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:47
And even when we would come up to pick up the robots at the end of the study,
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I čak kada smo dolazili po robote na kraju studije,
10:50
they would come out to the car and say good-bye to the robots.
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oni bi dolazili do kola i pozdravljali robote.
10:52
They didn't do this with a computer.
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Ovo nisu radili sa kompjuterima.
10:54
The last thing I want to talk about today
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Poslednja stvar o kojoj hoću da vam pričam
10:56
is the future of children's media.
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je budućnost medija za decu.
10:58
We know that kids spend a lot of time behind screens today,
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Znamo da danas deca provode mnogo vremena ispred ekrana,
11:01
whether it's television or computer games or whatnot.
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bilo da je u pitanju televizija ili kompjuterske igrice ili nešto treće.
11:04
My sons, they love the screen. They love the screen.
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Moji sinovi, oni obožavaju ekran. Obožavaju ekran.
11:07
But I want them to play; as a mom, I want them to play,
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Ali ja želim da se oni igraju; kao mama želim da se igraju igrica
11:10
like, real-world play.
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kao u stvarnom životu.
11:12
And so I have a new project in my group I wanted to present to you today
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I imam novi projekat u svojoj grupi koji želim da vam predstavim danas
11:15
called Playtime Computing
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nazvan Kompjuterovanje za igranje
11:17
that's really trying to think about how we can take
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koji se bazira na onome
11:19
what's so engaging about digital media
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šta je toliko privlačno kod digitalnih medija
11:21
and literally bring it off the screen
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i da ih bukvalno iznese van ekrana
11:23
into the real world of the child,
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u stvaran svet deteta
11:25
where it can take on many of the properties of real-world play.
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gde može da iskoristi mnoge mogućnosti igre u stvarnom svetu.
11:29
So here's the first exploration of this idea,
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Tako, ovo je prvo istraživanje ove ideje
11:33
where characters can be physical or virtual,
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gde predmeti mogu biti fizički ili virtuelni
11:36
and where the digital content
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i gde digitalni sadržaj
11:38
can literally come off the screen
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može da bukvalno siđe s ekrana
11:40
into the world and back.
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u svet i nazad.
11:42
I like to think of this
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Volim da mislim o ovome
11:44
as the Atari Pong
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kao o Atari Pongu
11:46
of this blended-reality play.
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ove pomešane predstave.
11:48
But we can push this idea further.
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Ali možemo ovu ideju da odvedemo dalje.
11:50
What if --
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Šta ako
11:52
(Game) Nathan: Here it comes. Yay!
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(Igra) Nejtan: "Evo ga dolazi! Jeej!"
11:55
CB: -- the character itself could come into your world?
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- sam predmet može da dođe na naš svet?
11:58
It turns out that kids love it
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Ispostavlja se da deca obožavaju
12:00
when the character becomes real and enters into their world.
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kada likovi postanu stvarni i uđu u njihov svet.
12:03
And when it's in their world,
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I kada su u njihovom svetu,
12:05
they can relate to it and play with it in a way
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mogu da se povežu s njima i igraju na način
12:07
that's fundamentally different from how they play with it on the screen.
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koji je potpuno drugačiji od toga kako se igraju s njima na ekranu.
12:09
Another important idea is this notion
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Druga važna ideja je ova pojava
12:11
of persistence of character across realities.
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prisustva predmeta u različitim realnostima.
12:14
So changes that children make in the real world
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Tako da promene koje deca naprave u stvarnom svetu
12:16
need to translate to the virtual world.
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treba da se prenesu u virtuelni svet.
12:18
So here, Nathan has changed the letter A to the number 2.
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Evo, Nejtan je promenio slovo A u broj 2.
12:21
You can imagine maybe these symbols
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Možemo da zamislimo da ovi simboli
12:23
give the characters special powers when it goes into the virtual world.
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daju predmetima specijalne moći kada se prenesu u virtuelni svet.
12:26
So they are now sending the character back into that world.
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Tako oni sada šalju predmet nazad u taj svet.
12:29
And now it's got number power.
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I sada ima moć broja.
12:32
And then finally, what I've been trying to do here
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I onda na kraju, šta sam htela da uradim ovde
12:34
is create a really immersive experience for kids,
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je da stvorim stvarno uzbudljivo iskustvo za decu,
12:37
where they really feel like they are part of that story,
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da stvarno mogu da osete kao da su deo te priče,
12:40
a part of that experience.
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deo tog iskustva.
12:42
And I really want to spark their imaginations
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I zaista želim da ih inspirišem
12:44
the way mine was sparked as a little girl watching "Star Wars."
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kao što sam ja bila dok sam kao devojčica gledala "Zvezdane ratove".
12:47
But I want to do more than that.
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Ali želim da postignem i više od toga.
12:49
I actually want them to create those experiences.
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Zapravo, želim da oni stvaraju ta iskustva.
12:52
I want them to be able to literally build their imagination
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Želim da im omogućim da bukvalno grade ta iskustva
12:54
into these experiences and make them their own.
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na osnovu svoje mašte.
12:56
So we've been exploring a lot of ideas
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Istraživali smo mnoge ideje
12:58
in telepresence and mixed reality
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o teleprisustvu i spojenim realnostima
13:00
to literally allow kids to project their ideas into this space
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da bismo omogućili deci da bukvalno projektuju svoje ideje u prostor
13:03
where other kids can interact with them
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gde bi mogli da se igraju sa drugom decom
13:05
and build upon them.
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i nadograđuju ih.
13:07
I really want to come up with new ways of children's media
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Zaista želim da pronađem nove vidove medija za decu,
13:10
that foster creativity and learning and innovation.
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koji neguju kreativnost, učenje i inovativnost.
13:13
I think that's very, very important.
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Mislim da je to veoma, veoma važno.
13:16
So this is a new project.
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Dakle, ovo je novi projekat.
13:18
We've invited a lot of kids into this space,
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Pozvali smo puno dece u ovaj prostor
13:20
and they think it's pretty cool.
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i oni misle da je prilično uzbudljiv.
13:23
But I can tell you, the thing that they love the most
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Ali, mogu vam reći, stvar koja im se najviše dopala
13:25
is the robot.
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je robot.
13:27
What they care about is the robot.
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Ono do čega im je stalo je robot.
13:30
Robots touch something deeply human within us.
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Roboti dotiču nešto duboko ljudsko u nama.
13:33
And so whether they're helping us
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I, bilo da nam pomažu
13:35
to become creative and innovative,
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da postanemo kreativni i inovativni,
13:37
or whether they're helping us
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ili da nam pomažu
13:39
to feel more deeply connected despite distance,
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da se osećamo veoma povezano uprkos daljini,
13:41
or whether they are our trusted sidekick
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ili bilo da su naš prisan drug
13:43
who's helping us attain our personal goals
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koji nam pomaže da istrajemo u ličnim ciljevima
13:45
in becoming our highest and best selves,
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da postanemo što bolji možemo,
13:47
for me, robots are all about people.
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za mene, roboti su veoma važni za ljude.
13:50
Thank you.
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Hvala vam!
13:52
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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