How fear drives American politics | David Rothkopf | TED Talks

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What I'd like to do is talk to you a little bit about fear

Želeo bih da vam govorim na kratko o strahu

and the cost of fear

i ceni straha

and the age of fear from which we are now emerging.

i o dobu straha iz koga trenutno izranjamo.

I would like you to feel comfortable with my doing that

Želim da se osećate ugodno dok ja to činim

by letting you know that I know something about fear and anxiety.

tako što ću vas obavestiti da znam ponešto o strahu i nespokoju.

I'm a Jewish guy from New Jersey.

Ja sam Jevrej iz Nju Džerzija.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

I could worry before I could walk.

Bio sam zabrinut pre nego što sam prohodao.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Please, applaud that.

Izvolite, aplaudirajte tome.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

But I also grew up in a time where there was something to fear.

Ali sam takođe odrastao u vremenu u kome je bilo razloga za strah.

We were brought out in the hall when I was a little kid

Kada sam bio maleno dete, izveli su nas u hodnik

and taught how to put our coats over our heads

i učili nas kako da stavljamo kapute preko glave

to protect us from global thermonuclear war.

kako bismo se zaštitili od globalnog termonuklearnog rata.

Now even my seven-year-old brain knew that wasn't going to work.

E sad, čak i moj mozak sedmogodišnjaka je znao da to neće da funkcioniše.

But I also knew

Ali sam takođe znao

that global thermonuclear war was something to be concerned with.

da je globalni termonuklearni rat nešto zbog čega valja biti zabrinut.

And yet, despite the fact that we lived for 50 years

Pa ipak, uprkos činjenici da smo živeli 50 godina

with the threat of such a war,

s pretnjom od takvog rata,

the response of our government and of our society

odgovor naše vlade i našeg društva

was to do wonderful things.

je bio u vidu neverovatnih podviga.

We created the space program in response to that.

Stvorili smo svemirski program kao odgovor na to.

We built our highway system in response to that.

Sagradili smo sistem auto-puteva kao odgovor na to.

We created the Internet in response to that.

Stvorili smo internet kao odgovor na to.

So sometimes fear can produce a constructive response.

Dakle, strah ponekad može da izazove konstruktivan odgovor.

But sometimes it can produce an un-constructive response.

Ali ponekad može da izazove nekonstruktivan odgovor.

On September 11, 2001,

11. septembra 2001,

19 guys took over four airplanes

19 momaka je preuzelo četiri naša aviona

and flew them into a couple of buildings.

i s njima su uleteli u nekoliko zgrada.

They exacted a horrible toll.

Iznudili su užasan danak.

It is not for us to minimize what that toll was.

Nije na nama da umanjujemo njegov značaj.

But the response that we had was clearly disproportionate --

Ali naš odgovor je bio očigledno neproporcionalan -

disproportionate to the point of verging on the unhinged.

neproporcionalan do tačke koja se graniči s ludilom.

We rearranged the national security apparatus of the United States

Preuredili smo aparaturu državne bezbednosti SAD-a

and of many governments

i mnogih ministarstava

to address a threat that, at the time that those attacks took place,

kako bismo se bavili pretnjom koja je u vreme tih napada

was quite limited.

bila prilično ograničena.

In fact, according to our intelligence services,

Zapravo, prema našim službama bezbednosti,

on September 11, 2001,

11. septembra 2001.

there were 100 members of core Al-Qaeda.

imali smo 100 članova matične Al-Kaide.

There were just a few thousand terrorists.

Bilo je samo nekoliko hiljada terorista.

They posed an existential threat

Nisu predstavljali egzistencijalnu opasnost

to no one.

bilo kome.

But we rearranged our entire national security apparatus

Ali mi smo preuredili našu celokupnu aparaturu državne bezbednosti

in the most sweeping way since the end of the Second World War.

na najtemeljniji mogući način od završetka Drugog svetskog rata.

We launched two wars.

Pokrenuli smo dva rata.

We spent trillions of dollars.

Potrošili trilione dolara.

We suspended our values.

Suspendovali smo naše vrednosti.

We violated international law.

Prekršili međunarodni zakon.

We embraced torture.

Prigrlili mučenje.

We embraced the idea

Prigrlili pretpostavku

that if these 19 guys could do this, anybody could do it.

da, ako je ovih 19 momaka moglo da uradi to, može svako.

And therefore, for the first time in history,

I shodno tome, prvi put u istoriji

we were seeing everybody as a threat.

na svakoga smo gledali kao na pretnju.

And what was the result of that?

A koji su rezultati toga?

Surveillance programs that listened in on the emails and phone calls

Programi za nadzor koji su prisluškivali mejlove i telefonske pozive

of entire countries --

čitavih država -

hundreds of millions of people --

stotina miliona ljudi -

setting aside whether those countries were our allies,

zanemarujući to da li su te države bile naši saveznici,

setting aside what our interests were.

zanemarujući naše interese.

I would argue that 15 years later,

Tvrdio bih da 15 godina kasnije,

since today there are more terrorists,

pošto danas imamo više terorista,

more terrorist attacks, more terrorist casualties --

više terorističkih napada, više žrtava terorizma -

this by the count of the U.S. State Department --

prema informacijama američkog Stejt departmenta -

since today the region from which those attacks emanate

pošto je danas region iz koga ti napadi potiču

is more unstable than at any time in its history,

nestabilniji nego ikad u istoriji,

since the Flood, perhaps,

od potopa, možda,

we have not succeeded in our response.

naš odgovor je bio neuspešan.

Now you have to ask, where did we go wrong?

Morate da se zapitate gde smo pogrešili?

What did we do? What was the mistake that was made?

Šta smo uradili? Koju smo grešku počinili?

And you might say, well look, Washington is a dysfunctional place.

I možda ćete reći, pazite, Vašington je nefunkcionalno mesto.

There are political food fights.

Imamo politička prepucavanja.

We've turned our discourse into a cage match.

Pretvorili smo naš diskurs u obračune u kavezu.

And that's true.

To je istina.

But there are bigger problems, believe it or not, than that dysfunction,

Ali imamo veće probleme, verovali ili ne, od te nefunkcionalnosti,

even though I would argue

iako bih tvrdio

that dysfunction that makes it impossible to get anything done

da je ta nefunkcionalnost, zbog koje je nemoguće postići bilo šta,

in the richest and most powerful country in the world

u najbogatijoj i najmoćnijoj državi na svetu

is far more dangerous than anything that a group like ISIS could do,

daleko opasnija od bilo čega što grupe, poput ISIS-a mogu da urade

because it stops us in our tracks and it keeps us from progress.

jer nas to zakopava u mestu i sprečava naš napredak.

But there are other problems.

Ali imamo i druge probleme.

And the other problems

A drugi problemi

came from the fact that in Washington and in many capitals right now,

proizilaze iz činjenice da u Vašingtonu i mnogim glavnim gradovima trenutno

we're in a creativity crisis.

imamo krizu kreativnosti.

In Washington, in think tanks,

U Vašingtonu, u sektorima za inovacije,

where people are supposed to be thinking of new ideas,

gde bi ljudi trebalo da dolaze do novih ideja,

you don't get bold new ideas,

nemate odvažne nove ideje

because if you offer up a bold new idea,

jer ako ponudite odvažnu novu ideju,

not only are you attacked on Twitter,

ne samo da vas napadaju na Tviteru,

but you will not get confirmed in a government job.

već vam neće poveriti državni posao.

Because we are reactive to the heightened venom of the political debate,

Jer reagujemo na naglašeni otrov političkih debata,

you get governments that have an us-versus-them mentality,

imate vlade koje imaju mi-protiv-njih mentalitet,

tiny groups of people making decisions.

malene grupe ljudi koje donose odluke.

When you sit in a room with a small group of people making decisions,

Kada sedite u prostoriji s malom grupom ljudi koji donose odluke,

what do you get?

šta dobijate?

You get groupthink.

Dobijate grupno razmišljanje.

Everybody has the same worldview,

Svi imaju isti pogled na svet

and any view from outside of the group is seen as a threat.

i svaki pogled van grupe se posmatra kao pretnja.

That's a danger.

To je opasno.

You also have processes that become reactive to news cycles.

Takođe imate procese koji su reakcija na cikluse vesti.

And so the parts of the U.S. government that do foresight, that look forward,

Pa tako delovi američke vlade koji se bave predviđanjima, koji gledaju napred,

that do strategy --

koji prave strategije -

the parts in other governments that do this -- can't do it,

delovi drugih vlada koji se bave ovim - ne mogu to da rade

because they're reacting to the news cycle.

jer reaguju na vesti.

And so we're not looking ahead.

Pa tako mi ne gledamo napred.

On 9/11, we had a crisis because we were looking the wrong way.

11. septembra smo imali krizu jer smo gledali u pogrešnom smeru.

Today we have a crisis because, because of 9/11,

Danas imamo krizu jer zbog 11. septembra

we are still looking in the wrong direction,

i dalje gledamo u pogrešnom smeru,

and we know because we see transformational trends on the horizon

a znamo to jer vidimo trendove preobražaja na horizontu

that are far more important than what we saw on 9/11;

koji su daleko važniji od onoga što smo videli 11. septembra;

far more important than the threat posed by these terrorists;

daleko važniji od pretnje koju predstavljaju teroristi;

far more important even than the instability that we've got

daleko važnije čak i od nestabilnosti koju imamo

in some areas of the world that are racked by instability today.

u nekim delovima sveta koje ovih dana potresa nestabilnost.

In fact, the things that we are seeing in those parts of the world

Zapravo, ono što viđamo u tim delovima sveta

may be symptoms.

su možda simptomi.

They may be a reaction to bigger trends.

Možda su reakcije na veće trendove.

And if we are treating the symptom and ignoring the bigger trend,

A ako tretiramo simptom, ignorišući širi trend,

then we've got far bigger problems to deal with.

onda imamo daleko veće probleme sa kojima se suočavamo.

And so what are those trends?

Pa koji su to trendovi?

Well, to a group like you,

Pa, za grupe, poput vas,

the trends are apparent.

trendovi su očigledni.

We are living at a moment in which the very fabric of human society

Živimo u momentu u kom se samo tkanje ljudskog društva

is being rewoven.

nanovo tka.

If you saw the cover of The Economist a couple of days ago --

Ako ste videli naslovnu stranu "Ekonomista" od pre nekoliko dana -

it said that 80 percent of the people on the planet,

kažu da će 80% ljudi na planeti

by the year 2020, would have a smartphone.

do 2020. godine imati pametni telefon.

They would have a small computer connected to the Internet in their pocket.

Imaće maleni kompjuter povezan na internet u svom džepu.

In most of Africa, the cell phone penetration rate is 80 percent.

U većem delu Afrike stopa prodora mobilne tehnologije je 80%.

We passed the point last October

Prošlog oktobra smo prešli tačku

when there were more mobile cellular devices, SIM cards,

kada smo imali u svetu više mobilnih telefona, SIM kartica,

out in the world than there were people.

nego što imamo ljudi.

We are within years of a profound moment in our history,

Godine nas dele od ključnog momenta u našoj istoriji

when effectively every single human being on the planet

kada će praktično svako ljudsko biće na planeti

is going to be part of a man-made system for the first time,

prvi put da bude deo veštački napravljenog sistema

able to touch anyone else --

koji je u stanju da dotakne bilo koga -

touch them for good, touch them for ill.

da ga dotakne na dobar ili loš način.

And the changes associated with that are changing the very nature

A promene koje idu uz to menjaju samu prirodu

of every aspect of governance and life on the planet

svakog aspekta našeg upravljanja i života na planeti

in ways that our leaders ought to be thinking about,

na načine na koje bi naše vođe trebalo da razmišljaju,

when they're thinking about these immediate threats.

kada misle na sve te trenutne pretnje.

On the security side,

Kada je bezbednost u pitanju,

we've come out of a Cold War in which it was too costly to fight a nuclear war,

izašli smo iz Hladnog rata u kome je bilo suviše skupo boriti se u nuklearnom ratu,

and so we didn't,

pa i nismo

to a period that I call Cool War, cyber war,

u period, koji ja zovem Rashlađenim ratom, sajber ratom,

where the costs of conflict are actually so low, that we may never stop.

gde je cena konflikata zapravo toliko niska da možda nikada nećemo stati.

We may enter a period of constant warfare,

Možda uđemo u period stalnog ratovanja,

and we know this because we've been in it for several years.

a znamo to jer smo u njemu već nekoliko godina.

And yet, we don't have the basic doctrines to guide us in this regard.

Pa ipak, nemamo osnovne doktrine kojima bismo se vodili u ovom slučaju.

We don't have the basic ideas formulated.

Nemamo formulisane osnovne ideje.

If someone attacks us with a cyber attack,

Ako nas neko napadne sajber napadom,

do have the ability to respond with a kinetic attack?

imamo li mogućnost da odgovorimo kinetičkim napadom?

We don't know.

Ne znamo.

If somebody launches a cyber attack, how do we deter them?

Ako neko pokrene sajber napad, kako da ga odbijemo?

When China launched a series of cyber attacks,

Kada je Kina pokrenula niz sajber napada,

what did the U.S. government do?

šta je uradila vlada SAD?

It said, we're going to indict a few of these Chinese guys,

Rekla je da ćemo podići optužnicu protiv nekoliko kineskih momaka,

who are never coming to America.

koji nikada neće kročiti u Ameriku.

They're never going to be anywhere near a law enforcement officer

Nikada neće biti u blizini policajca

who's going to take them into custody.

koji bi ih odveo u pritvor.

It's a gesture -- it's not a deterrent.

To je gest - nije zastrašivanje.

Special forces operators out there in the field today

Operateri specijalnih snaga koji su danas na terenu

discover that small groups of insurgents with cell phones

su otkrili da male grupe pobunjenika sa mobilnim telefonima

have access to satellite imagery that once only superpowers had.

imaju pristup satelitskim snimcima koje su nekad imale samo supersile.

In fact, if you've got a cell phone,

Zapravo, ako imate mobilni telefon,

you've got access to power that a superpower didn't have,

imate moć koju supersile nisu imale

and would have highly classified 10 years ago.

i koja bi bila veoma tajna pre 10 godina.

In my cell phone, I have an app that tells me

U svom telefonu imam aplikaciju koja me obaveštava

where every plane in the world is, and its altitude, and its speed,

gde se nalazi svaki avion na svetu, njegovu visinu, brzinu

and what kind of aircraft it is,

i koji je tip vazduhoplova,

and where it's going and where it's landing.

kuda ide i gde će da sleti.

They have apps that allow them to know

Postoje aplikacije koje teroristima omogućavaju da znaju

what their adversary is about to do.

šta njihovi protivnici smeraju.

They're using these tools in new ways.

Koriste ove alate na nove načine.

When a cafe in Sydney was taken over by a terrorist,

Kada su kafić u Sidneju preuzeli teroristi,

he went in with a rifle...

ušao je sa puškom...

and an iPad.

u ajpedom.

And the weapon was the iPad.

A oružje je bilo ajped.

Because he captured people, he terrorized them,

Jer je zarobio ljude, terorisao ih,

he pointed the iPad at them,

uperio ajped u njih,

and then he took the video and he put it on the Internet,

a potom je napravio snimak i postavio ga na internet

and he took over the world's media.

i preuzeo je svetske medije.

But it doesn't just affect the security side.

Ali to ne utiče samo na sigurnosnu stranu.

The relations between great powers --

Odnos među velikim silama -

we thought we were past the bipolar era.

mislili smo da smo prevazišli bipolarno doba.

We thought we were in a unipolar world,

Mislil smo da smo u unipolarnom svetu,

where all the big issues were resolved.

gde su sva velika pitanja razrešena.

Remember? It was the end of history.

Sećate li se? Beše to kraj istorije.

But we're not.

Ali nismo.

We're now seeing that our basic assumptions about the Internet --

Sada vidimo da naše osnovne pretpostavke o internetu -

that it was going to connect us, weave society together --

da će nas povezati, zašiti društvo -

are not necessarily true.

nisu nužno istinite.

In countries like China, you have the Great Firewall of China.

U državama, poput Kine, imate veliki kineski zaštitni zid.

You've got countries saying no, if the Internet happens within our borders

Imate države koje govore ne, ako se internet desi unutar naših granica,

we control it within our borders.

mi ćemo ga kontrolisati tu.

We control the content. We are going to control our security.

Mi kontrolišemo sadržaj. Mi ćemo kontrolisati našu bezbednost.

We are going to manage that Internet.

Mi ćemo da upravljamo internetom.

We are going to say what can be on it.

Mi ćemo odlučivati šta može da sadrži.

We're going to set a different set of rules.

Mi ćemo postaviti drugačiji niz pravila.

Now you might think, well, that's just China.

Sad, možda mislite, pa to je samo Kina.

But it's not just China.

Ali nije to samo Kina.

It's China, India, Russia.

To su Kina, Indija, Rusija.

It's Saudi Arabia, it's Singapore, it's Brazil.

To je Saudijska Arabija, to je Singapur, to je Brazil.

After the NSA scandal, the Russians, the Chinese, the Indians, the Brazilians,

Nakon NSA skandala, Rusi, Kinezi, Indijci, Brazilci,

they said, let's create a new Internet backbone,

rekli su, napravimo internetu novu kičmu

because we can't be dependent on this other one.

jer ne možemo da se oslanjamo na postojeću.

And so all of a sudden, what do you have?

I iznenada, šta imamo?

You have a new bipolar world

Imamo novi bipolarni svet

in which cyber-internationalism,

u kome je sajber internacionalizam,

our belief,

naše ubeđenje,

is challenged by cyber-nationalism,

izazvano sajber nacionalizmom,

another belief.

drugim ubeđenjem.

We are seeing these changes everywhere we look.

Vidimo ove promene gde god da se osvrnemo.

We are seeing the advent of mobile money.

Vidimo pojavu novca u vidu kredita za mobilni.

It's happening in the places you wouldn't expect.

Dešava se na mestima gde to ne biste očekivali.

It's happening in Kenya and Tanzania,

Dešava se u Keniji i Tanzaniji

where millions of people who haven't had access to financial services

gde milioni ljudi koji nisu imali pristup finansijskim uslugama,

now conduct all those services on their phones.

sada sve te usluge obavljaju preko svojih telefona.

There are 2.5 million people who don't have financial service access

2,5 miliona ljudi koji nemaju pristup finansijskim uslugama,

that are going to get it soon.

uskoro će ga dobiti.

A billion of them are going to have the ability to access it

Milijardu njih će uskoro dobiti mogućnost da im pristupe

on their cell phone soon.

preko svojih mobilnih.

It's not just going to give them the ability to bank.

Neće im to samo dati pristup bankarstvu.

It's going to change what monetary policy is.

To će da promeni monetarnu politiku.

It's going to change what money is.

Promeniće značenje novca.

Education is changing in the same way.

Obrazovanje se menja na isti način.

Healthcare is changing in the same way.

Zdravstvo se menja na isti način.

How government services are delivered is changing in the same way.

Delovanje vladinih službi će se promeniti na isti način.

And yet, in Washington, we are debating

Pa ipak, u Vašingtonu raspravljamo

whether to call the terrorist group that has taken over Syria and Iraq

da li da nazovemo terorističke grupe koje su osvojile Siriju i Irak

ISIS or ISIL or Islamic State.

ISIS ili ISIL ili Islamska država.

We are trying to determine

Pokušavamo da odredimo

how much we want to give in a negotiation with the Iranians

koliko da popustimo u pregovorima sa Irancima

on a nuclear deal which deals with the technologies of 50 years ago,

u nuklearnom dogovoru koji se bavi tehnologijom starom 50 godina,

when in fact, we know that the Iranians right now are engaged in cyber war with us

kada zapravo znamo da su Iranci trenutno zauzeti sajber ratovanjem s nama,

and we're ignoring it, partially because businesses are not willing

a mi to ignorišemo, delimično jer kompanije nisu spremne

to talk about the attacks that are being waged on them.

da govore o napadima koji se vode protiv njih.

And that gets us to another breakdown

A to nas dovodi do novog kraha

that's crucial,

koji je ključan,

and another breakdown that couldn't be more important to a group like this,

a taj krah je najvažniji za grupe, poput ove ovde,

because the growth of America and real American national security

jer američki rast i istinska američka državna bezbednost

and all of the things that drove progress even during the Cold War,

i sve stvari koje su dovele do napretka čak i tokom Hladnog rata

was a public-private partnership between science, technology and government

bile su deo javno-privatnog partnerstva između nauke, tehnologije i vlade

that began when Thomas Jefferson sat alone in his laboratory

koji je počeo kada je Tomas Džeferson sedeo sam u svojoj laboratoriji,

inventing new things.

izmišljajući novotarije.

But it was the canals and railroads and telegraph;

Ali to su bili kanali, železnice i telegraf;

it was radar and the Internet.

to je bio radar i internet.

It was Tang, the breakfast drink --

To je bio Tang, piće uz doručak -

probably not the most important of those developments.

verovatno ne najvažnije od ovih otkrića.

But what you had was a partnership and a dialogue,

Ali imali ste partnerstvo i dijalog,

and the dialogue has broken down.

a dijalog se raspao.

It's broken down because in Washington,

Raspao se jer se u Vašingtonu smatra

less government is considered more.

da što manje upravljate, to bolje

It's broken down because there is, believe it or not,

Raspao se jer u Vašingtonu imamo, verovali ili ne,

in Washington, a war on science --

rat protiv nauke -

despite the fact that in all of human history,

uprkos činjenici da u čitavoj ljudskoj istoriji

every time anyone has waged a war on science,

svaki put kad je neko vodio rat protiv nauke,

science has won.

nauka je pobedila.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

But we have a government that doesn't want to listen,

Ali mi imamo vladu koja ne želi da sluša,

that doesn't have people at the highest levels

koja nema ljude na najvišim instancama

that understand this.

koji razumeju ovo.

In the nuclear age,

U nuklearnom dobu,

when there were people in senior national security jobs,

kada smo imali ljude na seniorskim pozicijama na poslovima bezbednosti,

they were expected to speak throw-weight.

od njih se očekivalo da govore o balističkim merama.

They were expected to know the lingo, the vocabulary.

Od njih se očekivalo da znaju žargon, rečnik.

If you went to the highest level of the U.S. government now

Kada biste danas krenuli do najviših instanci vlade SAD-a

and said, "Talk to me about cyber, about neuroscience,

i rekli: "Razgovarajmo o sajberu, o neuronauci,

about the things that are going to change the world of tomorrow,"

o stvarima koje će sutra da promene svet",

you'd get a blank stare.

bledo bi zurili u vas.

I know, because when I wrote this book,

Znam, jer kad sam pisao ovu knjigu,

I talked to 150 people, many from the science and tech side,

razgovarao sam sa 150 ljudi, mnogima s naučne i tehničke strane

who felt like they were being shunted off to the kids' table.

koji su osećali kao da su ih odgurnuli za dečji sto.

Meanwhile, on the tech side,

U međuvremenu, na tehnološkoj strani,

we have lots of wonderful people creating wonderful things,

imamo mnogo divnih ljudi koji stvaraju divne stvari,

but they started in garages and they didn't need the government

ali počinjali su u garažama i vlada im nije bila potrebna

and they don't want the government.

i oni ne žele vladino uplitanje.

Many of them have a political view that's somewhere between

Politički pogled mnogih od njih se kreće negde između

libertarian and anarchic:

liberala i anarhista:

leave me alone.

ostavite me na miru.

But the world's coming apart.

Ali svet se raspada.

All of a sudden, there are going to be massive regulatory changes

Iznenada će da dođe do masovnih promena u regulativama

and massive issues associated with conflict

i do masovnih pitanja koja se tiču konflikata

and massive issues associated with security and privacy.

i masovnih pitanja koja se tiču bezbednosti i privatnosti.

And we haven't even gotten to the next set of issues,

A čak smo stigli do narednog niza pitanja,

which are philosophical issues.

a to su filozofska pitanja.

If you can't vote, if you can't have a job,

Ako ne možete da glasate, ako ne možete da imate posao,

if you can't bank, if you can't get health care,

ako nemate pristup bankarstvu, ako nemate zdravstvenu zaštitu,

if you can't be educated without Internet access,

ako ne možete da se obrazujete bez pristupa internetu,

is Internet access a fundamental right that should be written into constitutions?

da li je pristup internetu osnovno pravo koje bi trebalo da bude određeno ustavom?

If Internet access is a fundamental right,

Ako je pristup internetu osnovno pravo,

is electricity access for the 1.2 billion who don't have access to electricity

da li je pristup električnoj mreži za 1,2 milijarde koji nemaju taj pristup

a fundamental right?

osnovno pravo?

These are fundamental issues. Where are the philosophers?

Ovo su osnovna ljudska prava. Gde su filozofi?

Where's the dialogue?

Gde je dijalog?

And that brings me to the reason that I'm here.

A to me dovodi do razloga zašto sam ovde.

I live in Washington. Pity me.

Živim u Vašingtonu. Sažaljevajte me.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

The dialogue isn't happening there.

Tamo nema dijaloga.

These big issues that will change the world,

Ova velika pitanja koja će da promene svet,

change national security, change economics,

promeniće državnu bezbednost, promeniće ekonomiju,

create hope, create threats,

pružaju nadu, predstavljaju pretnju,

can only be resolved when you bring together

jedino mogu da budu rešena kada okupite

groups of people who understand science and technology

grupe ljudi koje se razumeju u nauku i tehnologiju

back together with government.

zajedno sa vladom.

Both sides need each other.

Obe strane trebaju jedno drugo.

And until we recreate that connection,

A dok ponovo ne stvorimo tu vezu,

until we do what helped America grow and helped other countries grow,

dok ne učinimo ono što je potpomoglo rast Amerike i drugih zemalja,

then we are going to grow ever more vulnerable.

do tad ćemo postajati čak i ranjiviji.

The risks associated with 9/11 will not be measured

Rizici koji su u vezi sa 11. septembrom neće se meriti

in terms of lives lost by terror attacks

u broju života izgubljenih u terorističkim napadima

or buildings destroyed or trillions of dollars spent.

ili u uništenim zgradama ili u trilionima potrošenih dolara.

They'll be measured in terms of the costs of our distraction from critical issues

Meriće se u ceni naše odvraćenosti od kritičnih pitanja

and our inability to get together

i u našoj nemogućnosti da okupimo

scientists, technologists, government leaders,

naučnike, tehničare, vođe iz vlade

at a moment of transformation akin to the beginning of the Renaissance,

u momentu transformacije, nalik početku renesanse,

akin to the beginning of the major transformational eras

nalik početku velikih era promena

that have happened on Earth,

koje su se desile na Zemlji

and start coming up with, if not the right answers,

i ako ne počnemo da dolazimo, ako ne do pravih odgovora,

then at least the right questions.

onda barem do pravih pitanja.

We are not there yet,

Nismo još stigli dotle,

but discussions like this and groups like you

ali ovakve rasprave i grupe poput vas

are the places where those questions can be formulated and posed.

su mesta mesta gde ta pitanja mogu da se formulišu i postave.

And that's why I believe that groups like TED,

I zato verujem da su grupe, poput TED-a,

discussions like this around the planet,

rasprave poput ove, širom planete

are the place where the future of foreign policy, of economic policy,

da su mesta gde će se budućnost spoljne politike, ekonomske politike,

of social policy, of philosophy, will ultimately take place.

društvene politike, filozofije konačno desiti.

And that's why it's been a pleasure speaking to you.

I zato je bilo zadovoljstvo govoriti pred vama.

Thank you very, very much.

Mnogo, mnogo vam hvala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)