Uri Alon: Why truly innovative science demands a leap into the unknown

Prevodilac: Olivera Spasojevic Lektor: Mile Živković

In the middle of my Ph.D.,

Usred svog doktorata,

I was hopelessly stuck.

potpuno sam zablokirao.

Every research direction that I tried

Svaki pravac istraživanja kojim bih se zaputio

led to a dead end.

vodio je u ćorsokak.

It seemed like my basic assumptions

Kao da više nisam mogao

just stopped working.

zdravorazumski da zaključujem.

I felt like a pilot flying through the mist,

Osećao sam se kao pilot koji leti kroz maglu

and I lost all sense of direction.

i potpuno sam izgubio smernice.

I stopped shaving.

Prestao sam da se brijem.

I couldn't get out of bed in the morning.

Nisam mogao da ustanem ujutru.

I felt unworthy

Osećao sam da nisam dostojan

of stepping across the gates of the university,

da prođem kroz kapije univerziteta,

because I wasn't like Einstein or Newton

jer nisam bio kao Ajnštajn ili Njutn

or any other scientist whose results

ili bilo koji drugi naučnik o čijim rezultatima

I had learned about, because in science,

sam učio, jer u nauci

we just learn about the results, not the process.

učimo samo o rezultatima, ne o procesu.

And so obviously, I couldn't be a scientist.

I naravno, nisam mogao biti naučnik.

But I had enough support

Ali imao sam dosta podrške

and I made it through

i izgurao sam

and discovered something new about nature.

i otkrio nešto novo o prirodi.

This is an amazing feeling of calmness,

U pitanju je neverovatan osećaj mira,

being the only person in the world

jer ste jedina osoba na svetu

who knows a new law of nature.

koja zna novi zakon prirode.

And I started the second project in my Ph.D,

Započeo sam drugi projekat za svoj doktorat

and it happened again.

i ponovo se desilo.

I got stuck and I made it through.

Opet sam zablokirao i ipak izgurao.

And I started thinking,

I počeo sam da razmišljam,

maybe there's a pattern here.

možda ovde postoji šablon.

I asked the other graduate students, and they said,

Pitao sam ostale studente na doktoratu i rekli su:

"Yeah, that's exactly what happened to us,

"Da, baš nam se to desilo,

except nobody told us about it."

samo što nam niko nije ništa rekao o tome."

We'd all studied science as if it's a series

Svi smo se bavili naukom kao da je ona

of logical steps between question and answer,

niz logičnih koraka između pitanja i odgovora,

but doing research is nothing like that.

ali istraživanje nema veze sa time.

At the same time, I was also studying

U isto vreme sam učio

to be an improvisation theater actor.

da budem glumac - improvizator.

So physics by day,

Dakle, fizičar u toku dana,

and by night, laughing, jumping, singing,

a noću, smeh, skakanje, pevanje,

playing my guitar.

sviranje gitare.

Improvisation theater,

Improvizacija,

just like science, goes into the unknown,

kao nauka, zalazi u nepoznato,

because you have to make a scene onstage

jer morate da nastupite na sceni,

without a director, without a script,

bez reditelja, bez scenarija,

without having any idea what you'll portray

bez ikakve ideje šta ćete prikazati,

or what the other characters will do.

ili kakve će druge uloge biti.

But unlike science,

Ali za razliku od nauke,

in improvisation theater, they tell you from day one

kada učite improvizaciju, kažu vam od prvog dana

what's going to happen to you when you get onstage.

šta će vam se desiti na sceni.

You're going to fail miserably.

Bićete bedno poraženi.

You're going to get stuck.

Zablokiraćete.

And we would practice staying creative

A vežbaćemo kako da ostanemo kreativni

inside that stuck place.

unutar te blokade.

For example, we had an exercise

Primera radi, tokom jedne vežbe

where we all stood in a circle,

svi smo stajali u krugu

and each person had to do the world's worst tap dance,

i svako je trebalo da odigra najgore moguće stepovanje

and everybody else applauded

i svi bi aplaudirali

and cheered you on,

i navijali

supporting you onstage.

podržavajući te na sceni.

When I became a professor

Kada sam postao profesor i kada je trebalo

and had to guide my own students

da usmeravam svoje studente

through their research projects,

kroz njihove istraživačke projekte,

I realized again,

opet sam shvatio

I don't know what to do.

da ne znam šta da radim.

I'd studied thousands of hours of physics,

Provodio sam hiljade sati učeći fiziku,

biology, chemistry,

biologiju, hemiju,

but not one hour, not one concept

ali ni jedan sat, ni jedna ideja

on how to mentor, how to guide someone

o tome kako biti mentor, kako usmeriti nekoga

to go together into the unknown,

da zajedno pođete u nepoznato,

about motivation.

o motivaciji.

So I turned to improvisation theater,

Stoga sam se okrenuo ka pozorištu improvizacije

and I told my students from day one

i rekao studentima prvoga dana

what's going to happen when you start research,

šta ih očekuje kad započnu istraživanje,

and this has to do with our mental schema

a to je vezano za našu predstavu

of what research will be like.

o tome kako bi izgledalo istraživanje.

Because you see, whenever people do anything,

Jer, vidite, svaki put kada ljudi nešto rade,

for example if I want to touch this blackboard,

na primer, ako bih želeo da dodirnem ovu tablu,

my brain first builds up a schema,

moj mozak bi sagradio šablon,

a prediction of exactly what my muscles will do

predviđanje o tome šta će tačno mišići raditi

before I even start moving my hand,

čak pre nego što pomerim ruku,

and if I get blocked,

a ako zablokiram,

if my schema doesn't match reality,

ako se šablon ne poklapa sa realnošću

that causes extra stress called cognitive dissonance.

nastaje dodatni stres, kognitivna disonanca.

That's why your schemas had better match reality.

Zato bi vaši šabloni trebalo da se poklapaju sa realnošću.

But if you believe the way science is taught,

Ali ako verujete u način na koji se nauka predaje i ako verujete

and if you believe textbooks, you're liable

u knjige, od vas se očekuje

to have the following schema of research.

da pratite izvesan pravac pri istraživanju.

If A is the question,

Ako je A pitanje,

and B is the answer,

B je odgovor,

then research is a direct path.

onda je istraživanje direktna putanja.

The problem is that if an experiment doesn't work,

Problem nastaje kada eksperiment ne uspe,

or a student gets depressed,

ili student upadne u depresiju,

it's perceived as something utterly wrong

to se onda prihvata kao nešto sasvim pogrešno,

and causes tremendous stress.

i izaziva ogroman stres.

And that's why I teach my students

Izbog toga učim svoje studente

a more realistic schema.

nešto realističnijem pristupu.

Here's an example

Evo primera

where things don't match your schema.

kada se stvari ne poklapaju sa vašim šablonom.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

So I teach my students a different schema.

Tako da učim svoje studente drugačijem pristupu.

If A is the question,

Ako je A pitanje,

B is the answer,

B je odgovor,

stay creative in the cloud,

ostanite kreativni u oblaku

and you start going,

i započnete,

and experiments don't work, experiments don't work,

I eksperiment ne uspeva, ne uspeva,

experiments don't work, experiments don't work,

eksperiment ne uspeva, ne uspeva

until you reach a place linked with negative emotions

dok ne dođete do tačke povezane sa negativnim emocijama

where it seems like your basic assumptions

kada se čini da vaše osnovne pretpostavke

have stopped making sense,

više nemaju smisla,

like somebody yanked the carpet beneath your feet.

kao da vam je neko izbio tlo pod nogama.

And I call this place the cloud.

I to mesto ja nazivam oblakom.

Now you can be lost in the cloud

Možete biti izgubljeni u oblaku

for a day, a week, a month, a year,

na dan, nedelju, mesec, godinu,

a whole career,

čitave karijere,

but sometimes, if you're lucky enough

ali ponekad, ako ste dovoljno srećne ruke

and you have enough support,

i ako imate dovoljno podrške,

you can see in the materials at hand,

u ponuđenim stvarima

or perhaps meditating on the shape of the cloud,

ili možda meditirajući o obliku tog oblaka,

a new answer,

možete videti novi odgovor,

C, and you decide to go for it.

C, i odlučite da pođete tim putem.

And experiments don't work, experiments don't work,

I opet eksperiment ne uspeva, eksperiment ne uspeva

but you get there,

ali uspete,

and then you tell everyone about it

i kažete svima o tome,

by publishing a paper that reads A arrow C,

objavivši članak koji govori A - C,

which is a great way to communicate,

što je odličan način komunikacije,

but as long as you don't forget the path

dokle god ne zaboravite putanju

that brought you there.

koja vas je dovela dotle.

Now this cloud is an inherent part

Oblak je sastavni deo

of research, an inherent part of our craft,

istraživanja, sastavni deo našeg zanata,

because the cloud stands guard at the boundary.

jer se oblak nalazi na granici.

It stands guard at the boundary

Nalazi se na granici

between the known

između poznatog

and the unknown,

i nepoznatog,

because in order to discover something truly new,

jer da biste otkrili nešto sasvim novo,

at least one of your basic assumptions has to change,

barem jedna od vaših osnovnih pretpostavki mora da se promeni,

and that means that in science,

a to znači da u nauci

we do something quite heroic.

mi činimo nešto sasvim herojski.

Every day, we try to bring ourselves

Svakoga dana, pokušavamo da dopremo

to the boundary between the known and the unknown

do granice između poznatog i nepoznatog

and face the cloud.

i suočimo se sa oblakom.

Now notice that I put B

Primetićete da sam stavio B

in the land of the known,

u oblast poznatog,

because we knew about it in the beginning,

jer znamo za B od samog početka,

but C is always more interesting

dok je C daleko interesantnije

and more important than B.

i mnogo bitnije od B.

So B is essential in order to get going,

Dakle, B je neophodno da bi se započelo,

but C is much more profound,

dok je C daleko prefinjenije,

and that's the amazing thing about resesarch.

i to je fantastični aspekt istraživanja.

Now just knowing that word, the cloud,

Samo saznanje o toj reči, oblak,

has been transformational in my research group,

je bilo transformišuće za moju istraživačku grupu

because students come to me and say,

jer bi mi studenti prišli sa rečima:

"Uri, I'm in the cloud,"

"Uri, u oblaku sam,"

and I say, "Great, you must be feeling miserable."

i ja bih rekao, "Odlično, mora da se osećaš bedno."

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

But I'm kind of happy,

Ali nekako sam zadovoljan,

because we might be close to the boundary

jer smo možda bliži granici

between the known and the unknown,

između poznatog i nepoznatog,

and we stand a chance of discovering

i imamo šansu da otkrijemo

something truly new,

nešto potpuno novo,

since the way our mind works,

jer, zbog načina na koji

it's just knowing that the cloud

naš um funkcioniše, samo saznanje da je oblak

is normal, it's essential,

normalan, čak neophodan,

and in fact beautiful,

i zapravo veoma lep,

we can join the Cloud Appreciation Society,

možemo se priključiti Udruženju onih koji cene oblak,

and it detoxifies the feeling that something

i na taj način uklonimo osećaj da nešto

is deeply wrong with me.

nije u redu sa nama.

And as a mentor, I know what to do,

I ja, kao mentor, znam šta da radim,

which is to step up my support for the student,

a to je da više podržavam svoje studente

because research in psychology shows

jer istraživanje u psihologiji pokazuje

that if you're feeling fear and despair,

da ako se plašite ili očajavate,

your mind narrows down

vaš um se sužava

to very safe and conservative ways of thinking.

na uljuljkan i konzervativan način razmišljanja.

If you'd like to explore the risky paths

Ako želite da istražite rizične putanje

needed to get out of the cloud,

koje su neophodne za izlazak iz oblaka,

you need other emotions --

potrebna su vam drugačija osećanja -

solidarity, support, hope —

solidarnost, podrška, nada -

that come with your connection from somebody else,

koji dolaze iz odnosa sa nekim drugim,

so like in improvisation theater,

stoga kao i u improvizacionom pozorištu,

in science, it's best to walk into the unknown

u nauci, najbolje je ići ka nepoznatom

together.

zajedno.

So knowing about the cloud,

Dakle, znajući o oblaku,

you also learn from improvisation theater

iz improvacionog pozorišta može se naučiti

a very effective way to have conversations

veoma dobar način za komunikaciju

inside the cloud.

unutar oblaka.

It's based on the central principle

Zasnovan je na centralnom principu

of improvisation theater,

improvizacionog pozorišta,

so here improvisation theater

koje mi je opet

came to my help again.

pomoglo s ovim.

It's called saying "Yes, and"

Treba reći: "Da, i"

to the offers made by other actors.

ponudama koje dolaze od strane drugih glumaca.

That means accepting the offers

To znači prihvatiti ponude

and building on them, saying, "Yes, and."

i nadgraditi ih rekavši "Da, i".

For example, if one actor says,

Na primer, ako jedan glumac kaže:

"Here is a pool of water,"

"Ovde se nalazi bazen",

and the other actor says,

a drugi glumac kaže:

"No, that's just a stage,"

"Ne, to je samo pozornica",

the improvisation is over.

improvizacija se završava.

It's dead, and everybody feels frustrated.

Improvizacija je gotova i svi se osećaju isfrustrirano.

That's called blocking.

To se zove blokiranje.

If you're not mindful of communications,

Ako niste obazrivi u komunikaciji,

scientific conversations can have a lot of blocking.

naučni razgovori mogu biti puni blokiranja.

Saying "Yes, and" sounds like this.

Reći "Da, i" bi zvučalo ovako.

"Here is a pool of water." "Yeah, let's jump in."

"Evo bazena." "Da, hajde da uskočimo."

"Look, there's a whale! Let's grab it by its tail.

"Vidi, kit! Hajde da ga uhvatimo za rep.

It's pulling us to the moon!"

Odvući će nas na mesec!"

So saying "Yes, and" bypasses our inner critic.

Dakle rekavši "Da, i" prevazilazimo unutarnjeg kritičara.

We all have an inner critic

Svi imamo unutarnjeg kritičara

that kind of guards what we say,

koji kao da pazi na sve što govorimo,

so people don't think that we're obscene

da ljudi ne misle da smo nepristojni

or crazy or unoriginal,

ili ludi ili neoriginalni,

and science is full of the fear

a nauka je puna straha

of appearing unoriginal.

od neoriginalnosti.

Saying "Yes, and" bypasses the critic

Rekavši "Da, i" prevazilazimo kritičara

and unlocks hidden voices of creativity

i otvaramo skrivena vrata kreativnosti

you didn't even know that you had,

za koja nismo ni znali da su u nama,

and they often carry the answer

i koja često nose odgovor

about the cloud.

o oblaku.

So you see, knowing about the cloud

Vidite, znajući za oblak

and about saying "Yes, and"

i rekavši "Da, i"

made my lab very creative.

učinilo je moju laboratoriju veoma kreativnom.

Students started playing off of each others' ideas,

Studenti su počeli da testiraju ideje jedni drugih

and we made surprising discoveries

i došli smo do iznenađujućih otkrića

in the interface between physics and biology.

u interakciji fizike i biologije.

For example, we were stuck for a year

Na primer, zaglavili smo se godinu dana pokušavajući

trying to understand the intricate

da razumemo složenost

biochemical networks inside our cells,

biohemijskih veza unutar ćelija

and we said, "We are deeply in the cloud,"

i rekli smo: "Duboko smo u oblaku,"

and we had a playful conversation

i pričali smo kroz šalu

where my student Shai Shen Orr said,

kada je moj student Šaj Šen Or rekao:

"Let's just draw this on a piece of paper, this network,"

"Hajde da to sve nacrtamo, te veze,"

and instead of saying,

i umesto da kažemo:

"But we've done that so many times

"Ali ovo smo već toliko puta uradili

and it doesn't work,"

i nije upalilo,"

I said, "Yes, and

rekao sam "Hajde, i

let's use a very big piece of paper,"

hajde da to radimo na ogromnom papiru,"

and then Ron Milo said,

i onda je Ron Milo rekao:

"Let's use a gigantic architect's

"Hajde da koristimo ogroman papir

blueprint kind of paper, and I know where to print it,"

za arhitektonski dizajn, znam gde se to štampa,"

and we printed out the network and looked at it,

odštampali smo veze, pogledali ih,

and that's where we made our most important discovery,

i tada smo došli do našeg najbitnijeg otkrića,

that this complicated network is just made

da je ovaj komplikovani sistem zapravo sastavljen

of a handful of simple, repeating interaction patterns

od šačice jednostavnih, interaktivnih šablona koji se ponavljaju,

like motifs in a stained glass window.

kao motivi na vitražu.

We call them network motifs,

Zovemo ih motivima mreže,

and they're the elementary circuits

i to su osnovna kola

that help us understand

koja nam pomažu da razumemo

the logic of the way cells make decisions

način na koji ćelije donose odluke

in all organisms, including our body.

u svim organizmima, uključujući naše telo.

Soon enough, after this,

Nedugo potom,

I started being invited to give talks

pozvan sam da držim govore

to thousands of scientists across the world,

hiljadama naučnika širom sveta,

but the knowledge about the cloud

ali znanje o oblaku

i navika da se kaže "Da, i"

and saying "Yes, and"

just stayed within my own lab,

ostali su samo u mojoj laboratoriji,

because you see, in science, we don't talk about the process,

jer vidite, u nauci ne pričamo o procesu,

anything subjective or emotional.

nečemu subjektivnom ili emotivnom.

We talk about the results.

Pričamo o rezultatima.

So there was no way to talk about it in conferences.

Tako da se o tome ne može pričati na konferencijama.

That was unthinkable.

Bilo je nezamislivo.

And I saw scientists in other groups get stuck

I viđao sam kako se naučnici u drugim grupama

without even having a word to describe

zaglavljuju se bez i reči opisa

what they're seeing,

o tome šta vide,

and their ways of thinking

i na koji način razmišljaju,

narrowed down to very safe paths,

svedeni su na sigurne staze

their science didn't reach its full potential,

i njihova nauka nije ostvarila pun potencijal

and they were miserable.

i bili su veoma nezadovoljni.

I thought, that's the way it is.

I pomislio sam, tako to ide.

I'll try to make my lab as creative as possible,

Pokušaću da učinim svoju laboratoriju što kreativnijom

and if everybody else does the same,

i ako svi budu to isto radili,

science will eventually become

nauka će vremenom postati

more and more better and better.

sve bolja i bolja.

That way of thinking got turned on its head

Taj način razmišljanja se okončao

when by chance I went to hear Evelyn Fox Keller

kada sam slučajno otišao da čujem Evelin Foks Keler

give a talk about her experiences

kako govori o svom iskustvu

as a woman in science.

žene u svetu nauke.

And she asked,

Pitala je:

"Why is it that we don't talk about the subjective

"Zašto ne pročamo o subjektivnim

and emotional aspects of doing science?

i emotivnim aspektima bavljenja naukom?

It's not by chance. It's a matter of values."

To nije slučajno. Stvar je u vrednostima."

You see, science seeks knowledge

Vidite, nauka teži ka znanju

that's objective and rational.

koje je objektivno i racionalno.

That's the beautiful thing about science.

To je predivna stvar u nauci.

But we also have a cultural myth

Ali sa druge strane imamo kulturološki mit

that the doing of science,

da je bavljenje naukom,

what we do every day to get that knowledge,

ono što radimo na dnevnoj bazi da dođemo do tog znanja,

is also only objective and rational,

takođe objektivno i racionalno,

like Mr. Spock.

kao gospodin Spok.

And when you label something

A kada obeležite nešto

as objective and rational,

kao objektivno i racionalno,

automatically, the other side,

automatski, sa druge strane,

the subjective and emotional,

subjektivno i emotivno

become labeled as non-science

postaje obeleženo kao nenaučno

or anti-science or threatening to science,

ili kao pretnja nauci,

and we just don't talk about it.

i o tome se prosto ne priča.

And when I heard that,

I kada sam to čuo,

that science has a culture,

da nauku prati kultura,

everything clicked into place for me,

sve je došlo na svoje mesto,

because if science has a culture,

jer ako nauku prati kultura,

culture can be changed,

kultura može biti promenjena,

and I can be a change agent

i ja mogu biti agent promene

working to change the culture of science wherever I could.

radeći na tome da promenim kulturu nauke na koji god mogu način.

And so the very next lecture I gave in a conference,

I na prvom sledećem predavanju

pričao sam o svom pogledu na nauku,

I talked about my science,

and then I talked about the importance

a onda o važnosti

of the subjective and emotional aspects of doing science

subjektivnih i emotivnih aspekta nauke

and how we should talk about them,

i kako bi trebalo pričati o tome,

and I looked at the audience,

i pogledao sam publiku,

and they were cold.

i bili su hladni.

They couldn't hear what I was saying

Nisu mogli da čuju šta govorim

in the context of a 10 back-to-back

u kontekstu 10 uzastopnih

PowerPoint presentation conference.

PowerPoint prezentacija.

And I tried again and again, conference after conference,

I nastavio sam da pokušavam, konferenciju za konferencijom,

but I wasn't getting through.

ali nisam dopirao do njih.

I was in the cloud.

Bio sam u oblaku.

And eventually I managed to get out the cloud

Na kraju sam uspeo da izađem iz oblaka

using improvisation and music.

koristeći improvizaciju i muziku.

Since then, every conference I go to,

Od tada, na svakom predavanju,

I give a science talk and a second, special talk

održim naučno predavanje i još jedno, specijalno predavanje

called "Love and fear in the lab,"

sa imenom "Ljubav i strah u laboratoriji"

and I start it off by doing a song

i počinjem sa pesmom

about scientists' greatest fear,

o najvećem strahu naučnika,

which is that we work hard,

a to je da vredno radimo,

we discover something new,

otkrijemo nešto novo

and somebody else publishes it before we do.

a neko drugi to objavi pre nas.

We call it being scooped,

To zovemo krađom,

and being scooped feels horrible.

a krađa je užasna.

It makes us afraid to talk to each other,

Čini da se plašimo da pričamo jedan sa drugim

which is no fun,

što je bezveze,

because we came to science to share our ideas

jer smo počeli da se bavimo naukom da bismo delili ideje

and to learn from each other,

i da bismo učili jedni od drugih,

and so I do a blues song,

i onda otpevam bluz pesmu,

which — (Applause) —

koja - (Aplauz) -

called "Scooped Again,"

se zove "Ponovo pokraden,"

and I ask the audience to be my backup singers,

i tražim od publike da mi budu pomoćni vokali,

and I tell them, "Your text is 'Scoop, Scoop.'"

i kažem im, "Vaš tekst je "Krađa, krađa."

It sounds like this: "Scoop, scoop!"

Zvuči ovako : "Krađa, krađa"

Sounds like this.

Ide ovako.

♪ I've been scooped again ♪

♪ Ponovo sam pokraden ♪

♪ Scoop! Scoop! ♪

♪ Krađa, krađa! ♪

And then we go for it.

I onda krenemo.

♪ I've been scooped again ♪

♪ Ponovo sam pokraden ♪

♪ Scoop! Scoop! ♪

♪ Krađa, krađa! ♪

♪ I've been scooped again ♪

♪Ponovo sam pokraden♪

♪ Scoop! Scoop! ♪

♪ Krađa, krađa! ♪

♪ I've been scooped again ♪

♪ Ponovo sam pokraden ♪

♪ Scoop! Scoop! ♪

♪ Krađa, krađa! ♪

♪ I've been scooped again ♪

♪ Ponovo sam pokraden ♪

♪ Scoop! Scoop! ♪

♪ Krađa, krađa! ♪

♪ Oh mama, can't you feel my pain ♪

♪ O mama, zar ne osećaš moj bol ♪

♪ Heavens help me, I've been scooped again ♪

♪ Nebesa, pomozite, ponovo sam pokraden ♪

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Thank you.

Hvala.

Thank you for your backup singing.

Hvala na pomoćnim vokalima.

So everybody starts laughing, starts breathing,

I svi se smeju, počnu da dišu,

notices that there's other scientists around them

primećuju druge naučnike oko njih

with shared issues,

sa istim problemima,

and we start talking about the emotional

i počnemo da pričamo o emotivnim

and subjective things that go on in research.

i subjektivnim stvarima u istraživanju.

It feels like a huge taboo has been lifted.

I čini se kao da je ogroman tabu nestao.

Finally, we can talk about this in a scientific conference.

Napokon, možemo pričati o tome na naučnoj konferenciji.

And scientists have gone on to form peer groups

I naučnici su počeli da formiraju grupe

where they meet regularly

koje se redovno sreću i daju prostora

and create a space to talk about the emotional

da se priča o emotivnim i subjektivnim

and subjective things that happen as they're mentoring,

stvarima koje se dešavaju mentorima

as they're going into the unknown,

dok idu u nepoznato

and even started courses

i čak su započeli kurseve

about the process of doing science,

o procesu bavljenja naukom,

about going into the unknown together,

o zajedničkom odlasku u nepoznato,

and many other things.

i mnogim drugim stvarima.

So my vision is that,

Stoga je moja vizija da,

just like every scientist knows the word "atom,"

kao što svaki naučnik zna za reč "atom,"

that matter is made out of atoms,

da je materija sastavljena od atoma,

every scientist would know the words

svaki naučnik na svetu zna

like "the cloud," saying "Yes, and,"

reči "oblak" i "Da, i"

and science will become much more creative,

i nauka će postati mnogo kreativnija,

make many, many more unexpected discoveries

doći će se do mnogo neočekivanih otkrića

for the benefit of us all,

u korist svih nas,

and would also be much more playful.

i bila bi mnogo zabavnija.

And what I might ask you to remember from this talk

I ono što bih zatražio da zapamtite iz ovog predavanja

is that next time you face

je da kada se sledeći put sretnete

a problem you can't solve

sa nerešivim problemom

in work or in life,

na poslu ili u životu,

there's a word for what you're going to see:

postoji reč za to što vidite.

the cloud.

Oblak.

And you can go through the cloud

I možete proći kroz taj oblak

not alone but together

ne sami, već zajedno

with someone who is your source of support

sa nekim ko vas podržava

to say "Yes, and" to your ideas,

rekavši "Da, i" vašim idejama,

to help you say "Yes, and" to your own ideas,

da vam pomogne da kažete "Da, i" sopstvenim idejama

to increase the chance that,

i poveća šansu da

through the wisps of the cloud,

kroz pramenove oblaka

you'll find that moment of calmness

nađete momenat mira

where you get your first glimpse

u kome po prvi put nazrete

of your unexpected discovery,

vaše neočekivano otkriće,

your C.

vaše C.

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)