On tennis, love and motherhood | Serena Williams and Gayle King

Prevodilac: Sonja Rajkovic Lektor: Mile Živković

Gayle King: Have a seat, Serena Williams,

Gejl King: Izvoli sedi, Serena Vilijams, ili bi trebalo da kažemo: Sedi, mama.

or should we say, have a seat, mom.

(Cheers)

(Ovacije)

So no doubt, you guys are like me.

Nema sumnje, da ste vi, kao i ja, videli ono izdanje

You saw the release of Serena

Serene u žutom kupaćem kostimu prosle nedelje.

in that great yellow bathing suit last week

and when I saw it, all I could think of was,

kada sam ja videla, samo sam mislila,

"Gosh, why couldn't she have waited til we sat onstage for TED?"

„Bože, zašto nije mogla da sačeka dok ne sednemo na TED pozornicu?“

I was very selfish, I know.

Bila sam veoma sebična, znam.

So I asked you about that picture,

Pitala sam te za sliku, rekla si mi da niko nije trebalo da vidi tu sliku.

and you said nobody was supposed to see that picture.

What do you mean?

Kako to misliš?

Serena Williams: Well, actually, it was an accident.

Serena Vilijams: Pa, zapravo, desilo se slučajno.

I was on vacation, just taking some time for myself,

Bila sam na odmoru, imala sam malo vremena za sebe

and I have this thing where I've been checking my status

i radim to nešto, gde proveravam svoje stanje

and taking pictures every week to see how far along I'm going --

i slikala bih se svake nedelje da vidim kako napredujem -

GK: And sharing it with friends, maybe?

GK: I delila si možda to sa prijateljima?

SW: No, actually I have just been saving it,

SV: Ne, zapravo sam samo čuvala to,

and I didn't really tell a lot of people,

nije mnogo ljudi znalo, iskreno, i čuvala sam to,

to be quite honest,

and I'd been saving it,

and you know how social media is, you press the wrong button and --

i znate kako to ide sa društvenim mrežama, pritisneš pogrešno dugme i -

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

GK: And there it was.

GK: I tako se to desilo.

SW: So 30 minutes later -- my phone doesn't ring that much --

SV: 30 minuta kasnije - moj telefon ne zvoni toliko -

and 30 minutes later, I missed like four calls,

30 minuta kasnije, imala sam četiri propuštena poziva,

and I'm like, that's weird,

i pomislila sam: to je čudno, javila sam se i rekla: o, ne.

and then I picked it up and I was like, oh no.

Ali to je bio lep trenutak.

But it was a good moment.

I was gonna wait literally just five or six more days -- that's OK.

Sačekala bih bukvalno još pet, šest dana - tako da je u redu.

GK: I know, because it was weird, Serena, because it only said 20 weeks,

GK: Znam, jer bilo je čudno, Serena, zato što je samo pisalo 20 nedelja,

so it's not like there was a whole lot of information on it.

tako da nije kao da je bilo puno informacija tu.

SW: Exactly, so that's what I've been doing all this time.

SV: Upravo tako, zato što sam to sve vreme radila.

I've been just tracking it.

Pratila sam. 18, 19, svake nedelje bih se slikala i sačuvala sliku,

18, 19 -- every week I'd just take a picture and save it,

and I've been so good about it,

išlo mi je prilično dobro, a ovaj jedan put mi je promaklo.

and this was the one time that I slipped.

GK: There you go. Well, congratulations.

GK: Eto. Pa, čestitam. SV: Da, hvala.

SW: Yes, thank you.

GK: To je stvarno dobro. Kada si saznala, da li si bila uzbuđena?

GK: It really is OK. When you heard the news,

were you excited? Were you afraid? Were you worried?

Da li si bila uplašena? Da li si bila zabrinuta?

Da si u drugom stanju, mislim.

That you were pregnant, I mean.

SV: Saznala sam dva dana pre početka Australijen Oupena,

SW: So I heard it two days before the beginning of the Australian Open,

koji je jedan od najvećih grend slemova.

which is one of the biggest grand slams.

GK: You found out two days before?

GK: Otkrila si dva dana pre toga?

SW: Yeah, so it was two days before, and I knew.

SV: Da, dva dana pre toga sam saznala. Bila sam nervozna.

I was nervous.

I wasn't quite sure what to think,

Nisam bila sigurna šta da mislim, ali sam jednostavno znala

but I just knew that at that moment

it was really important for me to just focus right there

da mi je veoma važno da se fokusiram samo na to, na Australijen Oupen,

at the Australian Open,

and I was definitely not sure what to do.

definitivno nisam bila sigurna šta da radim.

I was like, can I play?

Razmišljala sam, da li smem da igram?

I know it's very dangerous, maybe, sometimes in the first 12 weeks or so,

Znam da je ponekad opasno u prvih 12 nedelja ili tako nešto,

so I had a lot of questions.

tako da sam imala puno pitanja.

GK: But not only did you play, Ms. Williams, you won.

GK: Ali ti ne samo da si igrala, gospođice Vilijams, već si i pobedila.

(Cheers)

(Ovacije)

SW: Yeah.

SV: Da.

May I just say, 23 grand slams to you.

GK: Samo da kažem, 23 grend slema za tebe.

SW: Thank you.

SV: Hvala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

GK: While pregnant!

GK: A u drugom stanju!

SW: Well, I was looking for another handicap, so ... no.

SV: Pa, tražila sam još jedan hendikep, tako da... ne...

GK: Did you play differently that game, knowing you were pregnant?

GK: Da li si igrala drugačije taj meč, znajući da si u drugom stanju?

SW: I did. It wasn't very easy.

SV: Jesam. Nije bilo lako.

You hear all these stories about people when they're pregnant,

Čuješ sve te priče o ljudima kad su u drugom stanju,

they get sick and they get tired.

da im je muka i umorni su.

GK: Have you had morning sickness?

GK: Da li si imala jutarnje mučnine?

SW: No, I've been so fortunate and so I haven't.

SV: Ne, imala sam sreće, da nisam.

But they get really tired and they get really stressed out,

Ali ljudi se umore i budu stvarno pod stresom,

and I had to really take all that energy,

a ja sam morala svu tu energiju, da spakujem u kutiju, da tako kažem,

put it in a paper bag, so to say,

and throw it away,

i da je bacim, zato što sam stvarno osećala da nemam vremena

because I really felt like I didn't have time

to deal with any extra emotions, any extra anything,

da se suočavam sa dodatnim emocijama, ili bilo čim,

because pregnant or not, no one knew,

u drugom stanju ili ne, niko nije znao, i trebalo je da osvojim turnir

and I was supposed to win that tournament

kao što se očekuje na svakom turniru na kom se pojavim.

as I am every tournament that I show up.

I am expected to win,

Očekuje se od mene da pobedim, i ako ne pobedim, to je još veća vest.

and if I don't win, it's actually much bigger news.

GK: Yeah, when you don't win, that's a big story.

GK: Da, kada ne pobediš, to je baš velika priča.

SW: Yes, so for me, I had to really take anything negative

SV: Da, tako da zbog sebe, morala sam sve negativno,

and any emotions that I was feeling at that point

bilo kakva osećanja koja sam imala u tom trenutku

and kind of just bottle them up

da, na neki način, potisnem, i da stvarno odlučim svoj sledeći korak.

and really figure out what the next step for me to do was.

GK: Imaš dosta podrške i ljubavi.

GK: You have a lot of support. You have a lot of love.

Kada sam dolazila ovde, ljudi su me zaustavljali na aerodromu.

Even when I was coming here, people stopped me at the airport.

I was saying to the flight attendant, the pilot, "Guess where I'm going?"

Govorila bih osoblju u avionu: „Pogađajte gde idem?“

Oni su rekli: „Stvarno, baš nam je drago da je u drugom stanju.“

They said, "Oh my God, we're so glad she's pregnant."

But then you always have these cranky Yankees.

Ali onda imaš i one mrzovoljne.

Na putu ovamo, neko mi je pričao o Ili Nastasovom,

On the way over here, somebody was telling me about Ilie Nastase,

koji je rekao neke ružne, neprikladne, usudiću se da kažem, rasističke stvari.

who said some very unkind, inappropriate, dare I say racial things.

Ti si mu odgovorila.

You have responded to him.

I'm not even going to dignify what he said,

Neću čak da udostojim to što je on rekao, ali ti si odgovorila. Zašto si odgovorila?

but you responded. Why did you respond?

SW: Well, I think there are very inappropriate comments,

SV: Pa, mislim da su to veoma neprikladni komentari,

i ne samo to, ja sam oduvek podržavala moje kolege i ljude sa kojima radim.

and not only that, I've been really supportive of my peers

and the people that I've worked with.

I've been a pro for almost 20 years,

Profesionalac sam skoro 20 godina.

and so for me, it's really important to hold women up,

Tako da za mene je veoma važno da podržavam žene,

and it's something that these young women,

i to je nešto što ove mlade žene,

they'll come to the locker room, they'll want to take pictures with me,

one dolaze u svlačionicu, htele bi da se slikaju sa mnom,

and for me, it's just like,

i za mene, to je važno,

I want to be able to be a good leader and a good example for them.

želim da budem dobar lider i dobar primer za njih.

So not only --

Tako da ne samo -

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Not only did he have rude things to say about me and my peers,

Ne samo da je on rekao nepristojne stvari o meni i o mojim kolegama,

I felt it was important for us to stand up for each other

već sam osećala da je važno da odbranimo jedni druge,

and to stand up for myself.

ali isto tako i da odbranim sebe.

And at that point it was really important for me to say,

U tom trenutku mi je bilo veoma važno da kažem:

like, I'm not afraid, I'm not going anywhere,

Ne plašim se, ne idem nikud, ali ovo je neprikladno,

but this is inappropriate,

and there's time and there's a place for everything.

i postoji vreme i mesto za sve. A to stvarno nije bilo ni vreme ni mesto.

And that really wasn't the time and the place.

GK: We cut the part where you said you're not going anywhere,

GK: Uhvatili smo taj deo gde si rekla da ne ideš nikud,

jer puniš 36 godina u septembru. Beba dolazi, 36 godina.

because you'll be 36 in September. Baby's coming, 36.

And your coach said age is always important,

Tvoj trener je rekao da su godine uvek bitne,

but in tennis it's very important,

u tenisu su još važnije, ali on ne sumnja da ćeš se ti vratiti.

but he has no doubt that you're coming back.

Have you thought, am I coming back?

Da li si razmišljala: Da li se vraćam? Da li ću uzeti malo slobodnog vremena?

Will I take some time off?

I know the women on the tour are saying,

Znam da žene na turniru pričaju:

"How long does it take to have a baby? Two years will she be gone?"

„Koliko je potrebno za bebu? Biće odsutna dve godine?“

What are you thinking?

Šta ti misliš?

SW: Well, I'm always trying to defy the odds, you know,

SV: Pa, ja uvek pokušavam da prkosim predviđanjima, znaš,

tako da je za mene zapravo sve u glavi.

so for me everything is really mental.

I definitely plan on coming back. I'm not done yet.

Definitivno planiram da se vratim. Nisam još završila.

I'm really inspired by my sister.

Veoma me inspiriše moja sestra.

She's a year older than me, and that's something that --

Ona je godinu dana starija od mene, i to je nešto što -

if she's still playing, I know I can play.

ako ona može da igra, znam da mogu i ja.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

And there's so many -- Roger Federer, he's a little bit older than me

I mnogi drugi - Rodžer Federer, on je malo stariji od mene,

and he's still winning everything, so I'm like, I know I can do that too.

a i dalje osvaja sve, tako da znam da mogu i ja to.

So that's been so inspiring to me, especially recently,

To je ono što me inspiriše, posebno u skorije vreme,

and I know that it's something I want to do.

znam da je to nešto što želim da uradim. Moja priča definitivno nije završena.

And my story is definitely not over yet.

I was talking to my coach about it,

Razgovarala sam sa svojim trenerom o tome,

and we were talking about how this is just a new part of my life,

i pričali smo kako je ovo samo novi deo mog života,

and my baby's going to be in the stands

i moja beba će biti na tribinama

and hopefully cheering for me, not crying too much.

i nadajmo se navijati za mene, i neće plakati puno.

GK: No, you wrote a beautiful letter to your baby yesterday

GK: Ne, napisala si juče divno pismo svojoj bebi

that you said -- from the oldest mommy to the youngest one,

u kom si rekla: od najstarije mame najmlađoj,

to the oldest, to the youngest, I can't wait for you to get here.

od najstarije najmlađoj, jedva čekam da dođeš na ovaj svet.

A lot of people feel that.

Mnogo ljudi to oseća.

I saw you about a year ago, because I think about your life, Serena.

Videla sam te pre godinu dana... jer razmišljam o tvom životu, Serena.

You've had three life-changing things in a six-month time:

Imala si tri velike životne promene u periodu od šest meseci:

pregnant, huge win, fell in love.

u drugom stanju, velika pobeda, zaljubila si se.

And when I saw you last year,

Kada sam te videla prošle godine,

pitala sam te: „Kako ide ljubavni život? Bla bla bla.“

I was saying, "How's your love life? Da da da."

You said, "I met a guy. He's a nerdy, kinda geeky guy.

Ti si mi rekla: „Upoznala sam tipa. On je štreberski tip. Sigurno ga ne znaš.“

You won't know who he is."

I said, "What's his name?"

Ja sam te pitala: „Kako se zove?“

SW: I remember talking to you about that, yes.

SV: Sećam se da smo pričale o tome, da.

GK: And you said, "Alexis Ohanian." I said, "I know him!" He's awesome.

GK: Ti si rekla: „Aleksis Ohenijan.“ Ja sam rekla: „Znam ga!“

On je fenomenalan. Ali nikad te ne bih spojila sa takvim tipom, ti kažeš - Ni ja.

But I would never put you with a nerdy geek,

and you said, you neither.

SW: I'm going to be honest with you, I didn't either,

SV: Biću iskrena sa tobom, ni ja nikad ne bih,

but it's been the best thing for me.

ali to je bilo najbolje za mene.

GK: The best thing why?

GK: Najbolje zbog čega?

Does that look like a nerdy geek?

Zar ne liči na štrebera? Pogledajte tu košulju.

Look at the shirt.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Ne, stvarno, veoma je dobar lik.

No, he's a very nice guy.

SW: You can tell he's into technology.

SV: Mogli biste da kažete da je u tehnologiji.

GK: He's a very, very nice guy.

GK: On je veoma, veoma dobar lik. Veoma mi je drag.

I like him very much.

So how did he succeed when others have failed?

Pa kako je on uspeo dok drugi nisu?

How was he the one that you knew, this is the one for me?

Kako si znala da je on taj - on je pravi za mene?

SW: Well, I'm not going to say that,

SV: Pa, to neću reći,

but ...

ali..

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

GK: Say it, Serena, say it!

GK: Kaži, Serena, kaži!

SW: Well ...

SV: Pa...

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Yes.

Da.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

GK: But you know what I mean.

GK: Ali znaš na šta mislim.

SW: He is very loving and he's very kind, and my mom says he's very considerate,

SV: On je pun ljubavi i veoma je dobar, i moja mama kaže da je veoma pažljiv,

and when she said that to me,

i kada mi je to rekla, pomislila sam - Znaš šta, stvarno jeste,

I was like, you know, he really is,

and it's the little things that really make a huge difference in life.

tu su i male stvari koje stvarno čine veliku razliku u životu.

GK: Like?

GK. Kao na primer?

SW: Something simple.

SV. Nešto jednostavno.

My fashion company, we have a show every year,

Moja modna kompanija, imamo svake godine reviju,

so in our show last year, I was running around like crazy,

na reviji prošle godine, trčala sam okolo kao luda,

because I do everything for the show,

jer ja radim sve za reviju, i sve oko nje, i tako sam trčala okolo kao luda,

and everything for it,

so I was running around like crazy,

and he, it was a simple gesture of this shirt that he had,

i on, bio je to običan znak pažnje, imao je tu košulju,

and he just wanted to make sure that I had the same one,

i hteo je da se pobrine da i ja imam istu,

and it was -- it's a weird story.

i to je bilo - čudna priča. Bilo je bolje uživo, stvarno.

It was better in person, I promise.

GK: Was it a wonderful proposal?

GK: Da li je bila lepa prosidba? Ili je bilo kao u pesmi Bjonse?

Or was it a Beyoncé song?

"If you like it then you ought to put a ring on it"?

„Ako ti se sviđa, trebalo bi da staviš prsten na njemu.“?

Were you feeling pressure to get married?

Da li si osećala pritisak da se udaš? Da li si znala da će se desiti?

Did you know it was coming?

SW: Yeah, I actually never felt pressure to get married

SV: Ja u stvari nikad nisam osećala pritisak da se udam

and I can't say I'm the marrying type of person.

ne mogu da kažem da sam tip za udaju.

I really love my life.

Zaista volim svoj život. Volim slobodu.

I love my freedom.

I heard that kind of changes.

Čula sam da se to promeni.

But I love everything that I do,

Ali volim sve što radim, volim svoju karijeru,

and I love my career,

and I always felt like I didn't want anything to interfere with that.

i uvek sam osećala da ne želim da se bilo šta ispreči tome.

I've actually been so career-oriented

Bila sam u stvari fokusirana na karijeru

and in fact, when he proposed,

i zapravo, kada me je zaprosio, bila sam skoro ljuta.

I was almost angry.

Not almost. I was angry,

Ne skoro. Bila sam ljuta zato što je bilo u sred sezone treniranja,

because it was right in the middle of my training season,

and I said, "I gotta win the Australian Open.

i rekla sam mu: „Moram da osvojim Australijen Oupen.

I can't fly to Rome."

Ne mogu da letim za Rim.“

Because he wanted to take me to Rome,

Zato što je hteo da me vodi u Rim, i rekla sam: „Ne mogu. Moram da pobedim.“

and I said, "I can't. I gotta win."

But that's how focused I was.

Toliko sam fokusirana.

GK: This is a girl that says, "No, I can't go to Rome." OK.

GK: Ovo je devojka koja kaže: „Ne, ja ne mogu da idem u Rim.“ Dobro.

SW: But I was really focused on reaching my goals

SV: Bila sam veoma fokusirana da postignem svoje ciljeve

and I knew at that point there was one player that I wanted to pass.

i znala sam da je u tom trenutku postojao jedan igrač kog želim da prestignem.

I wanted to pass Steffi Graf's record,

Želela sam da pređem rekord Štefi Graf, i to mi je veoma značilo,

and that really meant a lot to me,

and when I put my mind to something,

a ja kada se usmerim na nešto, zaista sam odlučna da postignem to uprkos svemu.

I really am determined to reach it

no matter what.

GK: You know, you said that for you --

GK: Znaš, rekla si da ti je -

I've heard you say that winning is addictive to you.

čula sam te da kažeš da si zavisna od pobeda.

SW: It is.

SV: Jeste.

GK: Kako to misliš?

GK: What do you mean?

SW: I feel like winning for me is superaddictive.

SV: Mislim da sam veoma zavisna od pobeda.

I feel like once you experience it,

Mislim da kada jednom iskusiš to, uvek želiš da povratiš taj osećaj,

you always want to get that feeling again,

and when I won my first championship, I was only 17 years old,

kada sam osvojila prvo prvenstvo, imala sam samo 17 godina,

but I never forgot that feeling,

ali nikad nisam zaboravila taj osećaj, i svaki put kada osvojim još jedan,

and I feel like every time I win one,

I want to reach that feeling of your first championship.

želim da dostignem taj osećaj sa prvog prvenstva.

There's really no feeling in the world like that.

Ne postoji osećaj na svetu kao taj.

And it's like, all these years of training

I sve ove godine treniranja i kad sam bila dete i igrala,

and being a little kid and playing,

and then winning is a wonderful experience.

onda je pobeda predivan osećaj.

So for me I've always felt like I loved that feeling,

Tako da sam uvek obožavala taj osećaj,

and obviously I don't like the feeling of losing. I feel like --

I očigledno ne volim osećaj kada izgubim. Osećam se -

GK: No, in fact, people close to you say you're a very bad loser.

GK: Ne, u stvari, ljudi koji su ti bliski kažu da veoma teško gubiš.

SW: I'm not the best loser.

SV: Nisam baš najbolja u gubljenju.

GK: That you're very, very, very bad.

GK: Da veoma, veoma, veoma teško gubiš.

Listen, no athlete, no champion likes to lose.

Slušaj, nijedan sportista, ni šampion ne voli da gubi. Razumem to.

I get that.

But they say when it comes to losing, you are very, very, very bad at it.

Ali kažu da kada se radi o gubljenju, ti si veoma, veoma loša u tome.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

SW: I'm number one at losing too, so you know, that's all I can say.

SV: Ja sam broj jedan i u gubljenju, tako da, znate, to je sve što ću reći.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

GK: I'm always curious about the dynamic between you and Venus,

GK: Oduvek me je zanimala ta dinamika između tebe i Venus,

because everybody that knows you and has followed the story

zato što svako ko te poznaje i prati priču zna da ste vas dve veoma bliske,

knows that you two are very close,

and you always bring your A game in whatever you do,

i ti uvek sve što radiš, radiš na najvišem nivou

but I often wonder, when you're playing her,

ali se često pitam, kada igraš protiv nje,

do you bring your A- game because you want to do something for her

da li igraš malo lošije jer želiš da učiniš nešto za nju

or do you bring your A++ game because you want to crush her.

ili igraš još bolje zato što želiš da je uništiš.

Is it harder for you playing her or easier?

Da li ti je teže ili lakše da igraš protiv nje?

SW: Well, playing Venus is like playing myself,

SV: Pa, igrati protiv Venus je kao da igram protiv sebe,

because we grew up playing each other, we grew up practicing together.

zato što smo odrasle igrajući jedna protiv druge, vežbajući zajedno.

And it was something that has been difficult,

To je nešto što je uvek bilo teško, zato što je ona moj najjači protivnik.

because she's my toughest opponent.

She's tall, she's fast,

Visoka je, brza je, udara jako kao ja, servira kao ja.

she hits hard like me, she serves like me.

It's really like playing a wall.

Stvarno je kao da igraš sa zidom.

GK: She knows you.

GK: Ona te poznaje.

SW: She knows where I'm hitting the ball before I hit it,

SV: Ona zna gde ću udariti loptu pre nego što je udarim,

so it's something that is not very easy,

tako da je to nešto što nije uopšte lako, ali je sve u tome da kada izađem na teren,

but it's really about, when I go out there,

I really have to shut down my mind and I have to say to myself,

stvarno moram da se isključim i moram da kažem sebi: „Znaš šta?

"You know what?

I'm just playing a great player, but today I have to be better.

Samo igram protiv velikog igrača, ali danas moram da budem bolja.

I don't care who it is, if it's my sister or it's my friend,

Ne zanima me ko je to, da li je to moja sestra ili moj prijatelj,

today is the day I have to show up and I have to be better

danas je dan kada moram da se dokažem i moram da budem bolja

and I have to want it more than anyone else at this moment

i moram da želim to više nego bilo ko ovog trenutka, bilo gde na svetu.“

anywhere on this world."

GK: So never on the court do you fall back for Venus?

GK: Znači nikad ne popuštaš Venus na terenu?

Because, you know, it was always Venus and Serena.

Zato što, znaš, uvek je bilo Venus i Serena.

SW: Yes.

SV: Da.

GK: And now baby sister has surpassed older sister.

GK: I sada je mlađa sestra prevazišla stariju sestru

Do you feel guilt about that?

Da li osećaš krivicu zbog toga? Da li osećaš radost u tome?

Do you feel joy in that?

Is that a difficult position for you?

Da li je to teška pozicija za tebe?

SW: I don't feel anything in there.

SV: Ne osećam ništa u tome.

In my life, it still and forever is always going to be Venus and Serena.

U mom životu, i dalje je i uvek će biti Venus i Serena.

She's really love of my life, she's my best friend,

Ona je zaista ljubav mog života, ona je moj najbolji prijatelj,

she's my soul mate.

ona je moja srodna duša.

I mean --

Mislim - Postoje fotografije kako me ona gura,

There's pictures of her pushing me,

really low-quality pictures or else I would have shared them,

fotografije lošeg kvaliteta, inače bih ih podelila,

of her pushing me in a stroller on a tennis court,

kako me ona gura u kolicima, na teniskom terenu,

and she always took care of me.

uvek je brinula o meni.

I used to spend all of my allowance money on the ice cream truck and stuff,

Nekad sam trošila sav svoj džeparac na sladolede i takve stvari,

and she would take her money and give it to me at school

i ona bi dala meni svoj novac u školi

and make sure I had something to eat and she would go without,

i pobrinula se da ja imam šta da jedem, a ona bi otišla bez ičega,

and that's the kind of person she actually is

eto takva je ona osoba, zapravo, otkad je ja znam.

since I've always known her.

So we always have this incredible respect for each other

Tako da mi uvek imamo to neverovatno poštovanje jedna prema drugoj

and this incredible love,

i neverovatnu ljubav,

and I think it's important for people to realize you can be successful

i mislim da je važno da ljudi shvate da možeš da budeš uspešan

but you can still have a wonderful relationship.

a da i dalje imaš predivan odnos.

On the court we are mortal enemies,

Na terenu mi smo smrtni neprijatelji,

but the second we shake hands, we are best friends again.

ali čim se rukujemo, mi smo najbolji prijatelji ponovo.

And if I lose, it might be a day later for me,

I ako izgubim, možda će biti dan kasnije za mene,

but for Venus --

ali za Venus -

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

GK: There's never a time on the court where you hit the ball

GK: Ne postoji trenutak na terenu kada udariš loptu

i kažeš: „Ovo je za ono u sedmom razredu kada si uradila to i to?“

and say, "That's for seventh grade when you did the blah blah blah"?

You never have any moment like that?

Nemaš takve trenutke?

SW: I feel like she should have those moments,

SV. Mislim da bi ona trebala da ima takve trenutke,

because she's never done anything bad to me,

zato što ona nikad nije uradila ništa loše meni,

but I'm the youngest. I'm the younger sister.

ali ja sam najmlađa. Ja sam mlađa sestra.

GK: Serena, she's never done anything bad to you? Really?

GK: Serena, nikad ti nije uradila ništa loše? Stvarno?

I have three sisters. I can think of some stuff I've done bad.

Ja imam tri sestre. Mogla bih da se setim nekih loših stvari koje sam im uradila.

SW: Unless she brainwashed me to forget them.

SV: Osim ako mi nije isprala mozak da ih zaboravim.

GK: No, but the love you have for her I know is very pure. I know that.

GK: Ne, ali ljubav koju imaš za nju, znam da je veoma čista. Znam to.

SW: Yes. GK: I know that.

SV: Da. GK: Znam to.

SW: We were always brought up to be superclose,

SV: Oduvek smo vaspitavane da budemo veoma bliske,

and we are incredibly close.

i mi i jesmo neverovatno bliske. Ne samo sa njom.

Not only her.

I have three other sisters as well, and we were always so close.

Imam još tri sestre, i oduvek smo bile toliko bliske.

GK: So before a big match, the two of you don't get together

GK: Znači pre velikog meča, vas dve se ne sastanete

i kažete: Vidi, izaći ćemo na teren i - ne postoji nešto tako?

and say, look, we're going to go out there and -- there's nothing?

SV: Pa, to je zanimljivo.

SW: Well, it's funny. Before the Australian Open,

Pre Australijen Oupena, bile smo u svlačionici zajedno,

we were in the locker room together,

and I always pick on her, so I pulled out my camera while she was changing.

ja je uvek zadirkujem, i uzela sam telefon dok se presvlačila.

I počela da je slikam, što je bilo potpuno neprikladno,

I started taking pictures of her, which is totally inappropriate,

but she was so mad at me.

bila je toliko besna na mene.

She's like, "Serena, stop!" And I was just laughing at her.

Rekla mi je: „Serena, prestani!“ A ja sam se samo smejala.

But that's the kind of relationship that we have, and like I said,

Ali takav odnos mi imamo, i kao što sam rekla,

the second we step on the court,

od trenutka kada smo stupile na teren, definitivno smo bile smrtni neprijatelji,

it was like, we were definitely mortal enemies,

but the second we stepped off, and moments before, we're just --

ali od trenutka kada smo napustile teren, i malo pre nego što smo izašle, mi smo -

It is what it is, because at the end of the day,

To je ono šta je bitno, zato što, posle svega, ona će uvek biti moja sestra.

she'll always be my sister.

I'm not going to play Australia in --

Neću igrati u Australiji - Pa, ko bi znao, igram dugo,

Well, who knows, I've been playing forever,

but I don't think I'll be playing in 50 years, say?

ali ne mislim da ću igrati za 50 godina, na primer?

Let's be safe and say 50 years.

Da budemo sigurni i kažemo 50 godina.

GK: I don't know, Serena. There's never been anybody like you.

GK: Ne znam, Serena. Nikad nije postojao neko kao ti.

When you think about it, never been anybody

Ako razmisliš, nikad nije postojao neko ko je povezivao pol i rasu kao ti,

who has intersected gender and race the way you have,

the dominance that you have and the scrutiny that you have.

dominacija koju imaš i promatranja koja imaš.

And when you were growing up, did you say, "I want to be like that"?

Kada si odrastala, da li si govorila: „Hoću da budem takva.“?

Because now little girls are looking at you

Zato što sada devojčice gledaju tebe i kažu: „Hoću da budem kao ona.“

saying, "I want to be like that."

Ko je to bio za tebe?

Who was the "I want to be like that" for you?

SV: Pa, to je zanimljivo, i drago mi je da si to spomenula.

SW: Well, it's interesting, and I'm glad you brought that up.

Kada sam odrastala, ja sam uvek htela da budem najbolja,

For me, when I grew up, I always wanted to be the best,

i govorila sam: Ako želiš da budeš najbolji, moraš da imitiraš najbolje.

and I said, if you want to be the best, you've got to emulate the best.

So when I started to go on tour when I was really young,

Onda kada sam počela da idem na turnire, kada sam bila veoma mlada,

I would see Steffi Graf, I would see Monica Seles,

gledala bih Štefi Graf i Moniku Seleš,

and I would even see Pete Sampras,

i čak bih gledala i Pita Samprasa, i videla bih šta rade,

and I would see what they did,

and I noticed that Steffi and Monica

i primetila sam da Štefi i Monika ne pričaju baš puno sa ostalim igračima,

didn't really talk to a lot of the other players,

and they kind of were on their own,

bile su nekako svoje, i jednostavno toliko fokusirane,

and they were just so focused

and I would see Pete Sampras, the technique that he did,

i videla bih Pita Samprasa, tehniku koju je koristio,

and I was like, "I want to do that."

i rekla bih: „Želim da uradim to.“

So I did that, and I felt that to be the best,

I to sam i uradila, i smatrala sam da, da bi bio najbolji,

and if you want to be the best,

i ako želiš da budeš najbolji, moraš da budeš okružen ljudima

you have to hang around people

and you have to look at people that are the best,

i moraš da se ugledaš na ljude koji su najbolji,

because you're not going to be the best

jer nećeš biti najbolji ako se ugledaš na nekog ko nije na vrhunskom nivou.

if you're looking at someone that's not at the top level.

GK: Ljudi pričaju da niko ne radi tako naporno kao ti.

GK: People say nobody works as hard as you.

SV: Ja veoma naporno radim. GK: To sam i ja čula.

SW: I'm a very hard worker. GK: That's what I heard.

SV: Ljudi kažu: „Ona je talentovana, sportski je tip.“

SW: People say, "Oh, she's talented, she's athletic."

Zapravo, nisam bila. Bila sam veoma mala za svoje godine.

Actually, I wasn't. I was really small for my age.

I grew up when I got older,

Porasla sam sa godinama, i morala sam da radim veoma naporno,

and I had to work really hard,

and I think one of the reasons why I fight so hard and I work so hard

i mislim da je jedan od razloga zašto se borim toliko i zašto radim tako naporno

is because I was really, really, really small.

jer sam bila veoma, veoma mala.

GK: Yeah.

GK: Da.

You are no longer small.

Više nisi mala.

SW: No, I'm fully grown now.

SV: Ne, sada sam potpuno odrasla.

Ali bila sam veoma mala kada sam bila dete, koji god razlog bio.

But I was small when I was really young for whatever reason.

I think Venus maybe ate all the Wheaties.

Mislim da je Venus jela sve pahuljice.

GK: You know, the other thing people talk about is your body.

GK: Znaš, druga stvar o kojoj ljudi pričaju je tvoje telo.

Your body brings men and women to their knees.

Tvoje telo baca i muškarce i žene na kolena.

And I mean in a good way.

Mislim to na dobar način.

A lot has been made about your body.

Mnogo je toga napravljeno od tvog tela.

It's a work of art, it's masculine, it's glorious,

Ono je umetničko delo, mišićavo je, za poštovanje je,

there's never been anything like it.

nikad nije postojalo takvo.

Did you have body issues when you were growing up?

Da li si imala problema sa telom dok si odrastala?

Have you always been comfortable with your body?

Da li si se uvek osećala prijatno u svom telu?

SW: It's interesting, because when you're a teenage female

SV: To je zanimljivo, zato što kada si tinejdžerka koja odrasta u javnosti,

growing up in the public eye,

it is a lot of scrutiny that you face,

postoji dosta razmatranja sa kojima se suočavaš,

and as any female that's a teenager,

i kao i svako žensko koje je tinejdžer,

I definitely was not comfortable in my body.

definitivno se nisam osećala prijatno u svom telu.

I didn't like it.

Nije mi se sviđalo. Nisam razumela zašto imam mišiće.

I didn't understand why I had muscles.

And I stopped lifting weights.

I prestala sam da dižem tegove. Rekla sam: Neću da radim to.

I was like, I'm not going to do this.

Ali nakon što sam osvojila JuEs Oupen,

But then after I won the US Open,

shvatila sam da mi je moje telo pomoglo da postignem ciljeve koje sam želela,

I realized that my body helped me reach goals that I wanted to reach,

and I wanted to be happy with it,

i htela sam da budem zadovoljna njime, i bila sam zahvalna na njemu.

and I was so appreciative of it.

I'm always healthy.

Uvek sam zdrava. Stvarno imam sreće,

I'm really fortunate and superblessed,

and I felt like not only am I happy with my body,

i mislim da ne samo da sam srećna zbog svog tela

but I want other people and other young girls

već želim i drugi ljudi i mlade devojke

that have experienced what I've experienced

koje se suočavaju sa onim sa čim sam se i ja suočavala,

to be happy with themselves.

da budu zadovoljni sobom.

So whatever people say --

Tako da šta god ljudi govorili - mišićavo, štagod, previše, premalo -

masculine, whatever, too much, too little --

I'm OK with it as long as I love myself.

to mi je u redu sve dok ja volim sebe.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

GK: I know you learn a lot from winning,

GK: Znam da mnogo toga naučiš iz pobeda, ali šta si naučila iz poraza?

but what have you learned from losing?

SW: I hate to lose, but I think losing has brought me here today.

SV: Mrzim da gubim, ali mislim da su me porazi doveli ovde gde jesam danas.

The only reason I am who I am is because of my losses,

Jedini razlog što sam ovo što jesam je zbog mojih poraza,

and some of them are extremely painful,

i neki od njih su veoma bolni, ali ne bih uklonila nijedan od njih,

but I wouldn't take any of them away,

because every time I lose,

zato što svaki put kad izgubim,

it takes a really long time for me to lose again

treba dosta vremena da prođe da ponovo izgubim

because I learn so much from it.

zato što mnogo naučim iz toga.

And I encourage everyone that I talk to --

Ohrabrim svakog sa kim pričam.

Kažem im: Slušaj, ako izgubiš ili ako se desi tako nešto,

I'm like, listen, if you lose or if something happens --

not in sports -- in business or in school --

ne u sportu - u poslu ili u školi - nauči nešto iz toga.

learn from it.

Ne živi u prošlosti, živi u sadašnjosti, i ne pravi iste greške u budućnosti.

Don't live in the past, live in the present,

and don't make the same mistakes in the future.

To je ono po čemu se ja trudim da živim.

That's something that I always try to live by.

GK: Znam da planiraš venčanje i želim da znam,

GK: Now you're planning a wedding

and I want to know, is it a destination wedding

da li je to venčanje na nekoj destinaciji Ketskils ili Pokonos,

in the Catskills or Poconos or are you going to do it in Florida?

ili ćeš to uraditi na Floridi?

What are you thinking?

O čemu razmišljaš? Veliko ili malo?

Big or small?

SW: We're thinking medium size. We don't want to do too big,

SV: Želimo da bude srednje. Ne želimo da bude previše veliko,

but then we're like, OK, we can't say no to this person, this person.

ali onda razmišljamo: Ne možemo da kažemo „ne“ ovoj osobi, i ovoj osobi.

So we're thinking medium size and we're just thinking --

Tako da mislimo srednje, i jednostavno mislimo -

My personality is a lot of fun. Hopefully you can see that today.

Ja volim da se zabavaljam. Nadam se da to možete da vidite danas.

I'm not too serious.

Nisam previše ozbiljna.

GK: And you like to dance.

GK: I voliš da plešeš.

And the next chapter for Serena Williams is what?

Sledeće poglavlje za Serenu Vilijams je šta?

SW: Oh, next for me.

SV: Ah, sledeće za mene.

Obviously I'm going to have a baby

Očigledno ću roditi bebu,

and I'm going to stay fit and kind of come back and play tennis

i održavaću formu, i vratiti se i igrati tenis,

i raditi na mojoj modnoj liniji. To bi bilo zabavno.

and keep working on my fashion line.

That'll be really fun.

GK: Da li znaš da li je dečak ili devojčica?

GK: Do you know if it's a boy or girl?

SV: Ne znam. Imam osećaj i za jedno i za drugo.

SW: I don't. I have a feeling of one or the other.

It's a 50-50 chance, but I have a feeling.

50-50 su šanse, ali imam osećaj.

GK: Gayle is a unisex name.

GK: Gejl je uniseks ime.

Štagod ti i Aleksis odlučite, navijamo za vas!

Whatever you and Alexis decide, we are cheering you on!

SW: Thank you for that. GK: You're welcome.

SV: Hvala na tome.

GK: Nema na čemu. Navijamo za tebe, Serena Vilijams.

We are cheering you on, Serena Williams. SW: Thank you so much.

SV: Hvala puno. Hvala vam, ljudi.

Thank you guys.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)