Ethan Nadelmann: Why we need to end the War on Drugs

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Jihyeon J. Kim ๊ฒ€ํ† : Gemma Lee
00:12
What has the War on Drugs done to the world?
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๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์„ฑ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
00:16
Look at the murder and mayhem in Mexico,
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๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”, ์ค‘์•™ ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์™€
00:19
Central America, so many other parts of the planet,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ์‚ด์ธ๊ณผ ํ˜ผ๋ž€์„ ๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
00:22
the global black market estimated
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์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์ธ ์•”์‹œ์žฅ์€
00:24
at 300 billion dollars a year,
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๋Œ€๋žต ํ•œ ํ•ด 3์ฒœ์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋กœ ์ถ”์ •๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:27
prisons packed in the United States and elsewhere,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์˜ ๊ต๋„์†Œ๋Š” ๋งŒ์›์ด๋ฉฐ
00:30
police and military drawn into an unwinnable war
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๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๊ณผ ๊ตฐ๋Œ€๋Š” ์Šน์‚ฐ ์—†๋Š” ์ „์Ÿ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€
00:33
that violates basic rights, and ordinary citizens
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ๊ถŒ๊ณผ ์ผ๋ฐ˜ ์‹œ๋ฏผ๋“ค์„ ์นจํ•ดํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
00:36
just hope they don't get caught in the crossfire,
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๋‹จ์ง€ ์ด ์‹ธ์›€ํ„ฐ์—์„œ ๊ฐ‡ํžˆ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:39
and meanwhile, more people using
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๊ทธ ์™€์ค‘์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
00:42
more drugs than ever.
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:44
It's my country's history with alcohol prohibition
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๊ธˆ์ฃผ๋ น๊ณผ ํญ๋ ฅ๋ฐฐ ์•Œ ์นดํฌ๋„ค 50๋ฐฐ์˜
00:46
and Al Capone, times 50.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:49
Which is why it's particularly galling to me
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
00:53
as an American that we've been the driving force
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์ด ๊ตญ์ œ์ ์ธ ๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์—
00:56
behind this global drug war.
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์ฃผ๋œ ์„ธ๋ ฅ์ด์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:58
Ask why so many countries criminalize
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์–ด์งธ์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค์ด
01:00
drugs they'd never heard of,
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๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์ง€๋„ ๋ชปํ•œ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์„ ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์‹œํ•˜๊ณ 
01:02
why the U.N. drug treaties emphasize
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์–ด์งธ์„œ ์œ ์—” ๋งˆ์•ฝ ํ˜‘์ •์ด
01:05
criminalization over health,
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๋ณด๊ฑด๋ณด๋‹ค ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์„ ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋” ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๊ณ 
01:07
even why most of the money worldwide
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์–ด์งธ์„œ ์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ์•ฝ ๋‚จ์šฉ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ
01:09
for dealing with drug abuse goes not
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์ž๊ธˆ์ด ๊ธฐ๊ด€์„ ๋•๋Š”๋ฐ ์“ฐ์ด์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
01:11
to helping agencies but those that punish,
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์ฒ˜๋ฒŒํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์“ฐ์ด๋Š”์ง€
01:14
and you'll find the good old U.S. of A.
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์˜›๋‚  ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ์ ˆ์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:17
Why did we do this?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์™œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
01:19
Some people, especially in Latin America,
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ํŠนํžˆ ๋ผํ‹ด์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
01:23
think it's not really about drugs.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋งˆ์•ฝ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
01:24
It's just a subterfuge for advancing
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์ด๋“์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ˜„์‹ค์ •์ฑ…์„
01:27
the realpolitik interests of the U.S.
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๋ฐ€์–ด ๋ถ™์ผ ๊ตฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:30
But by and large, that's not it.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€์ฒด๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:33
We don't want gangsters and guerrillas
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํญ๋ ฅ์กฐ์ง์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฒŒ๋ฆด๋ผ๊ฐ€
01:36
funded with illegal drug money
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๋ถˆ๋ฒ• ๋งˆ์•ฝ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์„œ
01:38
terrorizing and taking over other nations.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ˜‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์›์น˜ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:41
No, the fact is, America really is crazy
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋Š”
01:46
when it comes to drugs.
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๊ฝค๋‚˜ ๊ด‘์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:48
I mean, don't forget, we're the ones who thought
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์•„์…”์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ ์„ ๊ธˆ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ 
01:50
that we could prohibit alcohol.
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์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:51
So think about our global drug war
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์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์ธ ๋งˆ์•ฝ ์ „์Ÿ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
01:54
not as any sort of rational policy,
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ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ์ •์ฑ…๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
01:56
but as the international projection
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๊ตญ๋‚ด์ ์ธ ์ •์‹ ์ด์ƒ์„
01:59
of a domestic psychosis.
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๊ตญ์ œ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํˆฌ์˜ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:03
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
02:06
But here's the good news.
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์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:07
Now it's the Russians leading the Drug War and not us.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:11
Most politicians in my country
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‚˜๋ผ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์ •์น˜์ธ๋“ค์€
02:12
want to roll back the Drug War now,
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๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊พธ๋กœ ๋Œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:14
put fewer people behind bars, not more,
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์ˆ˜๊ฐ์ž๋ฅผ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ์ค„์ด๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:16
and I'm proud to say as an American
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์ž์‹ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:19
that we now lead the world
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜ ์ •์ฑ… ๊ฐœํ˜์—์„œ
02:20
in reforming marijuana policies.
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์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:23
It's now legal for medical purposes
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์˜๋ฃŒ์šฉ์œผ๋กœ
02:25
in almost half our 50 states,
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50๊ฐœ์ฃผ์˜ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜์—์„œ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:26
millions of people can purchase their marijuana,
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์ˆ˜ ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ๋ช…์ด ๊ด€ํ—ˆ ์•ฝ๊ตญ์—์„œ
02:29
their medicine, in government- licensed dispensaries,
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๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์˜์•ฝํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:32
and over half my fellow citizens now say it's time
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ๋ฏผ์˜ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜์ด
02:35
to legally regulate and tax marijuana
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์ด์ œ ์ˆ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜๋„
02:37
more or less like alcohol.
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๊ทœ์ œํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณผ์„ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:39
That's what Colorado and Washington are doing,
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์ฝœ๋ผ๋ผ๋„์™€ ์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด ์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
02:41
and Uruguay, and others are sure to follow.
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์šฐ๋ฃจ๊ณผ์ด์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค๋„ ๋’ค๋”ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:45
So that's what I do:
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
02:48
work to end the Drug War.
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๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์„ ๋๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:51
I think it all started growing up
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์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ข…๊ต์ ์ด๊ณ 
02:54
in a fairly religious, moral family,
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์œค๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์ •์—์„œ
02:57
eldest son of a rabbi,
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๋ž๋น„์˜ ๋ง์•„๋“ค๋กœ ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ
02:59
going off to university where I
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๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€
03:01
smoked some marijuana
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๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜๋ฅผ ํ”ผ์šฐ๋ฉด์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘๋๋‚˜ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:04
and I liked it. (Laughter)
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์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹๋”๋ผ๊ตฌ์š”. (์›ƒ์Œ)
03:06
And I liked drinking too, but it was obvious
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์ˆ ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:09
that alcohol was really the more dangerous of the two,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋‘˜ ์ค‘์—์„  ์ˆ ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:11
but my friends and I could get busted
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ €์™€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜๋ฅผ
03:13
for smoking a joint.
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ํ”ผ์šฐ๋‹ค ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:15
Now, that hypocrisy kept bugging me,
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03:17
so I wrote my Ph.D dissertation on international drug control.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ๋ฐ•์‚ฌ๋…ผ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ตญ์ œ ๋งˆ์•ฝ ๊ทœ์ œ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
I talked my way into the State Department.
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์ €์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ตญ๋ฌด๋ถ€์— ์ „ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:23
I got a security clearance.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ณด์•ˆ ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
I interviewed hundreds of DEA and other law enforcement agents
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์ „ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๋งˆ์•ฝ๋‹จ์†๊ตญ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ
03:27
all around Europe and the Americas,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฒ• ์ง‘ํ–‰๊ธฐ๊ด€ ์š”์›๋“ค์„ ๋ฉด๋‹ดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:29
and I'd ask them,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:30
"What do you think the answer is?"
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"ํ•ด๊ฒฐ์ฑ…์ด ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"
03:33
Well, in Latin America, they'd say to me,
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๋ผํ‹ด ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ๋Š”
03:36
"You can't really cut off the supply.
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"์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์„ ์ฐจ๋‹จํ•  ์ˆœ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:38
The answer lies back in the U.S.,
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ํ•ด๊ฒฐ์ฑ…์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:40
in cutting off the demand."
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์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ์ฐจ๋‹จํ•ด์•ผ์ฃ ."
03:42
So then I go back home and I talk to people
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™€ ๋งˆ์•ฝ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ ์šด๋™์„ ํ•˜๋Š”
03:44
involved in anti-drug efforts there, and they'd say,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
"You know, Ethan, you can't really cut off the demand.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€, "์—๋‹จ, ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ์ฐจ๋‹จํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์ž–์•„์š”.
03:50
The answer lies over there. You've got to cut off the supply."
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๋‹ต์€ ๊ทธ ์ชฝ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๊ณต๊ธ‰์„ ๋Š์–ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”."
03:53
Then I'd go and talk to the guys in customs
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ตญ๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ๋งˆ์•ฝ๋ฐ˜์ž…์„ ๋ง‰๋Š”
03:56
trying to stop drugs at the borders,
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์„ธ๊ด€์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉด
03:58
and they'd say, "You're not going to stop it here.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€, "์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋Š” ๋ชป ๋ง‰์•„์š”.
04:01
The answer lies over there,
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๋‹ต์€ ์ € ์ชฝ์— ์žˆ์ฃ .
04:03
in cutting off supply and demand."
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์ˆ˜์š”์™€ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์„ ๋ง‰์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
04:06
And it hit me:
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:08
Everybody involved in this
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์ด ์ผ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€
04:10
thought the answer lay in that area
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ํ•ด๊ฒฐ์ฑ…์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š”
04:13
about which they knew the least.
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๋ถ„์•ผ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:16
So that's when I started reading everything I could
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ €๋Š” ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ
04:18
about psychoactive drugs: the history, the science,
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ํ–ฅ์ •์‹ ์„ฑ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ญ์‚ฌ, ๊ณผํ•™,
04:21
the politics, all of it,
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์ •์น˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:23
and the more one read,
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์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์œผ๋ฉด ์ฝ์„ ์ˆ˜๋ก
04:25
the more it hit you how a thoughtful,
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์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”
04:28
enlightened, intelligent approach took you over here,
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์ด์„ฑ์  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋”์šฑ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:31
whereas the politics and laws of my country
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ๋ฒ•๊ณผ ์ •์น˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์€
04:34
were taking you over here.
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๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
And that disparity struck me as this incredible
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๊ทธ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ด์„ฑ์ ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋„๋•์  ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ
04:40
intellectual and moral puzzle.
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๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:46
There's probably never been
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์—†๋Š”
04:48
a drug-free society.
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์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š” ์—†์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:51
Virtually every society
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ
04:52
has ingested psychoactive substances
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ํ†ต์ฆ์„ ์—†์• ๊ณ , ํž˜์„ ๋ถ๋‹์šฐ๋ฉฐ, ์‚ฌ๊ต๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด
04:55
to deal with pain, increase our energy, socialize,
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด๋Š” ์‹ ๊ณผ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ
04:58
even commune with God.
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ํ–ฅ์ •์‹ ์„ฑ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์„ ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:00
Our desire to alter our consciousness
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์˜์‹์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”๋ณด๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์š•๋ง์€
05:03
may be as fundamental as our desires
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์‹์š•, ์†Œ์†๊ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ์„ฑ์š•๋งŒํผ
05:05
for food, companionship and sex.
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๊ทผ์›์ ์ผ ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:09
So our true challenge
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น๋ฉดํ•œ ๊ณผ์ œ๋Š”
05:11
is to learn how to live with drugs
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์•ฝ๋ฌผ์„ ์ž˜ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ์•„์„œ
05:14
so they cause the least possible harm
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์ ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ 
05:17
and in some cases the greatest possible benefit.
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋ฉด ์œ ์ต์„ ๊ทน๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:21
I'll tell you something else I learned,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด
05:23
that the reason some drugs are legal and others not
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์–ด๋–ค ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ธ ๊ฒƒ์€
05:26
has almost nothing to do with science or health
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๊ณผํ•™์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•
05:29
or the relative risk of drugs,
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์•ฝ๋ฌผ์˜ ์ƒ๋Œ€์  ์œ„ํ—˜์„ฑ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋ฌด๊ด€ํ•˜๊ณ 
05:31
and almost everything to do with who uses
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š๋ƒ์™€ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ํŠน์ • ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์„ ์ทจ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š๋ƒ์™€
05:34
and who is perceived to use particular drugs.
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๊ด€๋ จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:37
In the late 19th century,
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19์„ธ๊ธฐ ๋ง
05:39
when most of the drugs that are now illegal were legal,
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ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ธ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ ์ธ ์‹œ์ ˆ์—
05:42
the principal consumers of opiates in my country
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ์ฃผ๋œ ์•„ํŽธ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž๋Š”
05:45
and others were middle-aged white women,
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์ค‘๋…„์˜ ๋ฐฑ์ธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค๋กœ
05:49
using them to alleviate aches and pains
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์ง„ํ†ต์ œ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฐ–์— ์—†์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์—
05:51
when few other analgesics were available.
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์ง„ํ†ต์ œ๋กœ ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:54
And nobody thought about criminalizing it back then
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฒ”์ฃ„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:56
because nobody wanted to put Grandma behind bars.
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ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์˜ฅ์— ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์›์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
05:59
But when hundreds of thousands of Chinese
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ˆ˜ ์‹ญ๋งŒ๋ช…์˜ ์ค‘๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด
06:01
started showing up in my country,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์™€์„œ
06:03
working hard on the railroads and the mines
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์ฒ ๋„์™€ ํƒ„๊ด‘์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉฐ
06:06
and then kicking back in the evening
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์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
06:07
just like they had in the old country
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์ €๋…์— ์‰ด ๋•Œ
06:09
with a few puffs on that opium pipe,
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์•„ํŽธ์„ ๋ช‡ ๋ชจ๊ธˆ์„ ํ”ผ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
06:12
that's when you saw the first drug prohibition laws
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๊ทธ ๋•Œ ์บ˜๋ฆฌํฌ๋‹ˆ์•„์™€ ๋„ค๋ฐ”๋‹ค์—์„œ
06:14
in California and Nevada,
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์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ ๋งˆ์•ฝ ๊ธˆ์ง€๋ฒ•์ด ์ƒ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:16
driven by racist fears of Chinese
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์ค‘๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฑ์ธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์„
06:18
transforming white women
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์•„ํŽธ์— ์ค‘๋…๋œ ๋งค์ถ˜๋ถ€๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊นŒ ์šฐ๋ คํ•œ
06:19
into opium-addicted sex slaves.
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์ธ์ข…์ฐจ๋ณ„์ฃผ์˜์ž๋“ค์ด ์ถ”์ง„ํ•œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:23
The first cocaine prohibition laws, similarly prompted
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์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ ์ฝ”์นด์ธ ๊ธˆ์ง€๋ฒ•๋„ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:26
by racist fears of black men sniffing that white powder
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๋‚จ๋ถ€ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ํ‘์ธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฑ์ƒ‰๊ฐ€๋ฃจ๋ฅผ ํก์ž…ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
06:29
and forgetting their proper place
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๋ณธ์—ฐ์˜ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žŠ์„๊นŒ ์šฐ๋ คํ•œ ์ธ์ข…์ฐจ๋ณ„์ฃผ์˜์ž๋“ค์ด
06:31
in Southern society.
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์ถ”์ง„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:33
And the first marijuana prohibition laws,
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์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜ ๊ธˆ์ง€๋ฒ•์€
06:35
all about fears of Mexican migrants
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์„œ๋ถ€์™€ ๋‚จ์„œ๋ถ€์˜
06:37
in the West and the Southwest.
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๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ” ์ด๋ฏผ์ž๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ถˆ์•ˆ๊ฐ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
And what was true in my country,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ†ตํ•˜๋ฉด
06:44
is true in so many others as well,
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์ด ๊ธˆ์ง€๋ฒ•๋“ค์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘๊ณผ
06:46
with both the origins of these laws
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์‹คํ–‰์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
06:49
and their implementation.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋„ ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:52
Put it this way,
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์•„์ฃผ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„๋งŒ ๊ณผ์žฅํ•ด์„œ
06:54
and I exaggerate only slightly:
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:56
If the principal smokers of cocaine
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ฝ”์นด์ธ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์†Œ๋น„์ธต์ด
06:59
were affluent older white men
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๋ถ€์œ ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋…„์˜ ๋ฐฑ์ธ ๋‚จ์„ฑ์ด๊ณ 
07:01
and the principal consumers of Viagra
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๋น„์•„๊ทธ๋ผ์˜ ์ฃผ์šฉ ์†Œ๋น„์ธต์ด
07:04
were poor young black men,
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๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ์ Š์€ ํ‘์ธ ๋‚จ์„ฑ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
07:06
then smokable cocaine would be easy to get with a prescription from your doctor
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์ฝ”์นด์ธ์€ ์˜์‚ฌ์ฒ˜๋ฐฉ์œผ๋กœ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ
07:09
and selling Viagra would get you five to 10 years behind bars.
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๋น„์•„๊ทธ๋ผ๋ฅผ ํŒ๋งคํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ 10๋…„ํ˜•์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:13
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
07:16
I used to be a professor teaching about this.
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ•์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ต์ˆ˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:20
Now I'm an activist, a human rights activist,
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ธ๊ถŒ ์šด๋™๊ฐ€๋กœ ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
07:24
and what drives me is my shame
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €์˜ ์ˆ˜์น˜์‹ฌ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:27
at living in an otherwise great nation
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์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ 5ํ”„๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ๋˜๋Š” ์ธ๊ตฌ์—
07:29
that has less than five percent of the world's population
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์ „์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ์ธ๊ตฌ์˜ 25ํ”„๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”
07:32
but almost 25 percent of the world's incarcerated population.
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์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›€ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:35
It's the people I meet who have lost someone
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ํญ๋ ฅ๊ณผ
07:38
they love to drug-related violence or prison
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์ˆ˜๊ฐ, ๊ณผ๋‹ค๋ณต์šฉ๊ณผ ์—์ด์ฆˆ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„
07:40
or overdose or AIDS
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์žƒ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:42
because our drug policies emphasize
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ํ˜„์žฌ ๋งˆ์•ฝ ์ •์ฑ…์ด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”
07:44
criminalization over health.
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์ฒ˜๋ฒŒ์„ ์ค‘์š”์‹œํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:46
It's good people who have lost their jobs,
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์ด๋“ค์€ ์ง์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ฐ€์ •, ์ž์œ ์™€ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์ž๋…€๋“ค์„
07:49
their homes, their freedom, even their children
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๊ตญ๊ฐ€์— ๋บ๊ธด ์„ ๋Ÿ‰ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:53
to the state, not because they hurt anyone
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์— ํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ผ์ณ์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
07:56
but solely because they chose to use one drug
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ ๋Œ€์‹  ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์„ ์ผ๋‹ค๋Š”
07:59
instead of another.
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์ด์œ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:02
So is legalization the answer?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ต์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
08:07
On that, I'm torn:
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๊ทธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” ๊ณ ๋ฏผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:09
three days a week I think yes, three days a week I think no,
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์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์˜ 3์ผ์€ "๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค"์ด๊ณ  3์ผ์€ "์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค"์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:12
and on Sundays I'm agnostic.
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์ผ์š”์ผ์—๋Š” "๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋‹ค"์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:14
But since today is Tuesday,
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ํ™”์š”์ผ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด
08:17
let me just say that legally regulating and taxing
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ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ธ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์„ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ†ต์ œํ•˜๊ณ 
08:21
most of the drugs that are now criminalized
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๊ณผ์„ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
08:24
would radically reduce the crime, violence,
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๋ฒ”์ฃ„์™€ ํญ๋ ฅ,
08:26
corruption and black markets,
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๋ถ€ํŒจ์™€ ์•”์‹œ์žฅ,
08:28
and the problems of adulterated and unregulated drugs,
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๋ฌธ๋ž€ํ•จ๊ณผ ๋ฌดํ—ˆ๊ฐ€ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์„ ํ˜„์ €ํžˆ ์ค„์ด๊ณ 
08:31
and improve public safety,
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๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ์•ˆ์ „์„ ๋†’์—ฌ์ค„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:33
and allow taxpayer resources to be developed
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ฉ์„ธ์ž์›์ด
08:35
to more useful purposes.
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๋ณด๋‹ค ์œ ์ตํ•œ ๋ชฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์“ฐ์ด๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:37
I mean, look, the markets in marijuana, cocaine,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜, ์ฝ”์นด์ธ
08:41
heroin and methamphetamine
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ํ—ค๋กœ์ธ๊ณผ ์•”ํŽ˜ํƒ€๋ฏผ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด
08:43
are global commodities markets
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์ˆ , ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ
08:46
just like the global markets in alcohol, tobacco,
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์ปคํ”ผ, ์„คํƒ• ๋“ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€
08:49
coffee, sugar, and so many other things.
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๊ตญ์ œ ์ƒํ’ˆ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:52
Where there is a demand,
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์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—
08:54
there will be a supply.
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๊ณต๊ธ‰์ด ๋”ฐ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:57
Knock out one source and another
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ํ•œ ๊ณณ์„ ๋ง‰์œผ๋ฉด
08:59
inevitably emerges.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐ์„œ ๋ถ„๋ช… ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:00
People tend to think of prohibition
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ณดํ†ต ๊ธˆ์ง€๋ฅผ
09:03
as the ultimate form of regulation
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์ตœ์ข…์ ์ธ ๊ทœ์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
09:05
when in fact it represents the abdication of regulation
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ๊ทœ์ œ๋ฅผ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
09:09
with criminals filling the void.
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๋ฒ”์ฃ„์ž๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ณต๋ฐฑ์„ ์ฑ„์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:13
Which is why putting criminal laws and police
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํ˜•๋ฒ•๊ณผ ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์„
09:16
front and center in trying to control
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์ „๋ฉด๊ณผ ์ค‘์•™์— ๋ฐฐ์น˜ํ•˜์—ฌ
09:19
a dynamic global commodities market
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์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ƒํ’ˆ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ํ†ต์ œํ•˜๋Š”๊ฒƒ์ด
09:22
is a recipe for disaster.
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์žฌ์•™์„ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์˜ค๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:25
And what we really need to do
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์€
09:27
is to bring the underground drug markets
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์ง€ํ•˜์˜ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ
09:29
as much as possible aboveground
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๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด์„œ
09:32
and regulate them as intelligently as we can
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ํ˜„๋ช…ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ๊ทœ์ œํ•จ์œผ๋กœ
09:36
to minimize both the harms of drugs
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๋งˆ์•ฝ์˜ ํ•ด์•…๊ณผ
09:39
and the harms of prohibitionist policies.
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๊ธˆ์ง€ ์ •์ฑ…์˜ ํ”ผํ•ด๋ฅผ ์ตœ์†Œํ™” ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:43
Now, with marijuana, that obviously means
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๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ
09:46
legally regulating and taxing it like alcohol.
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์ˆ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ฒ•์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทœ์ œํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณผ์„ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:49
The benefits of doing so are enormous, the risks minimal.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ด์ ์€ ํฌ๊ณ  ์œ„ํ—˜์„ฑ์€ ์ตœ์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:52
Will more people use marijuana?
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๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์•„์งˆ๊นŒ์š”?
09:55
Maybe, but it's not going to be young people,
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์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์ Š์€ ์ธต์€ ์•„๋‹๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:59
because it's not going to be legalized for them,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
10:01
and quite frankly, they already have
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์†”์งํžˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์–ป๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด
10:03
the best access to marijuana.
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์ด๋ฏธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:05
I think it's going to be older people.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์žฅ๋…„์ธต์ผ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:07
It's going to be people in their 40s and 60s
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40๋Œ€, 60๋Œ€, 80๋Œ€๊ฐ€
10:09
and 80s who find they prefer a little marijuana
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์ˆ ์ด๋‚˜ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์ œ ๋Œ€์‹ 
10:13
to that drink in the evening or the sleeping pill
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๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์„ ํ˜ธํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:16
or that it helps with their arthritis or diabetes
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๊ด€์ ˆ์—ผ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹น๋‡จ๋ณ‘์„ ์™„ํ™”์‹œ์ผœ์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
10:20
or maybe helps spice up a long-term marriage. (Laughter)
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์˜ค๋žœ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์ข€๋” ํ™”๋ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๋„๋ก ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (์›ƒ์Œ)
10:25
And that just might be a net public health benefit.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณต๊ณต๋ณด๊ฑด์˜ ์ˆœ์ด์ต์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:28
As for the other drugs,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งˆ์•ฝ๋“ค์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด
10:30
look at Portugal, where nobody goes to jail
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๋งˆ์•ฝ์†Œ์ง€ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
10:33
for possessing drugs,
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๊ฐ์˜ฅ์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์„ ๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
10:35
and the government's made a serious commitment
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์ •๋ถ€์—์„œ๋Š” ์ค‘๋…์„ ๋ณด๊ฑด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ
10:36
to treating addiction as a health issue.
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๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:38
Look at Switzerland, Germany, the Netherlands,
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์Šค์œ„์Šค, ๋…์ผ, ๋„ค๋œ๋ž€๋“œ,
10:40
Denmark, England, where people who have
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๋ด๋งˆํฌ, ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”
10:42
been addicted to heroin for many years
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์ˆ˜ ๋…„๊ฐ„ ํ—ค๋กœ์ธ์— ์ค‘๋…๋˜์–ด
10:44
and repeatedly tried to quit and failed
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๋Š์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
10:46
can get pharmaceutical heroin and helping services
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์˜์•ฝ์šฉ ํ—ค๋กœ์ธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„ ๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ์ง€์› ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:49
in medical clinics, and the results are in:
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๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:53
Illegal drug abuse and disease
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๋ถˆ๋ฒ• ์•ฝ๋ฌผ๋‚จ์šฉ๊ณผ ์งˆ๋ณ‘,
10:56
and overdoses and crime and arrests all go down,
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๊ณผ๋‹ค๋ณต์šฉ, ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์™€ ์ฒดํฌ์œจ์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜๊ณ 
11:00
health and well-being improve,
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•๊ณผ ํ–‰๋ณต์ด ์ฆ์ง„๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:02
taxpayers benefit,
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๋‚ฉ์„ธ์ž๊ฐ€ ํ˜œํƒ์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:04
and many drug users even put their addictions behind them.
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์•ฝ๋ฌผ๋ณต์šฉ์ž๋“ค์ด ์ค‘๋…์„ ๊ทน๋ณตํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:08
Look at New Zealand, which recently enacted a law
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์ตœ๊ทผ ๋‰ด์งˆ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ๋Š” ํŠน์ • ํ–ฅ์ •์‹ ์„ฑ ์•ฝํ’ˆ์„
11:11
allowing certain recreational drugs to be sold legally
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์•ˆ์ „์„ฑ์„ ๋จผ์ € ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๋Š” ์กฐ๊ฑด์œผ๋กœ
11:14
provided their safety had been established.
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๊ตฌ๋งคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ฒ•์„ ์ œ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:16
Look here in Brazil, and some other countries,
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋Š”
11:19
where a remarkable psychoactive substance,
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์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ํ–ฅ์ •์‹ ์„ฑ ์•ฝํ’ˆ์ธ
11:22
ayahuasca, can be legally bought and consumed
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์•„์•ผํ™”์Šค์นด๊ฐ€ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ
11:25
provided it's done so within a religious context.
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์ข…๊ต์  ๋ชฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋งŒ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:28
Look in Bolivia and Peru,
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๋ณผ๋ฆฌ๋น„์•„์™€ ํŽ˜๋ฃจ์—์„œ๋Š”
11:30
where all sorts of products made from the coca leaf,
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์ฝ”์นด์ธ์˜ ์›๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š”
11:33
the source of cocaine,
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์ฝ”์นด์žŽ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ์˜จ๊ฐ– ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ƒํ’ˆ์ด
11:35
are sold legally over the counter
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๊ณต๊ณต ๋ณด๊ฑด์— ๋ฌดํ•ดํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ
11:37
with no apparent harm to people's public health.
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๊ณ„์‚ฐ๋Œ€์—์„œ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:40
I mean, don't forget, Coca-Cola had cocaine in it until 1900,
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ 1900๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ์ฝ”์นด์ฝœ๋ผ์— ์ฝ”์นด์ธ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:44
and so far as we know was no more addictive
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์ œ๋Š”
11:46
than Coca-Cola is today.
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์ฝ”์นด์ฝœ๋ผ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘๋…์„ฑ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
Conversely, think about cigarettes:
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๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์š”.
11:53
Nothing can both hook you and kill you like cigarettes.
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๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋งŒํผ ์ค‘๋…์„ฑ๊ณผ ์น˜์‚ฌ์œจ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์—†์ฃ .
11:58
When researchers ask heroin addicts
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์—ฐ๊ตฌ์กฐ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ํ—ค๋กœ์ธ ์ค‘๋…์ž์—๊ฒŒ
12:01
what's the toughest drug to quit, most say cigarettes.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋Š๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์•ฝ์„ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋ฉด ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:04
Yet in my country and many others,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋Š”
12:07
half of all the people who were ever addicted
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๋‹ด๋ฐฐ์— ์ค‘๋…๋˜์—ˆ๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜
12:09
to cigarettes have quit
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์ ˆ๋ฐ˜์ด ๊ธˆ์—ฐํ•  ๋•Œ
12:11
without anyone being arrested or put in jail
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์ฒดํฌ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ๋˜๊ณ 
12:14
or sent to a "treatment program"
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๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋‚˜ ํŒ์‚ฌ์— ์˜ํ•ด
12:16
by a prosecutor or a judge.
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"์žฌํ™œ ์น˜๋ฃŒ"๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:18
What did it were higher taxes
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๋‹ด๋ฐฐ์˜ ์„ธ๊ธˆ์„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ 
12:21
and time and place restrictions on sale and use
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ํŒ๋งค์™€ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์—์„œ ๋•Œ์™€ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ œํ•œํ•˜๊ณ 
12:25
and effective anti-smoking campaigns.
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ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ธ ๊ธˆ์—ฐ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:28
Now, could we reduce smoking even more
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ํก์—ฐ์„ ์ „๋ฉด ๊ธˆ์ง€์‹œํ‚ค๋ฉด
12:32
by making it totally illegal? Probably.
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ค„์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์•„๋งˆ๋„์š”.
12:36
But just imagine the drug war nightmare
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์˜จ
12:40
that would result.
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์ฐธ์ƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
12:43
So the challenges we face today
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น๋ฉดํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”
12:45
are twofold.
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๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:47
The first is the policy challenge
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์ฒซ์งธ๋Š” ๋น„ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ธ ๊ธˆ์ง€ ์ •์ฑ…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
12:50
of designing and implementing alternatives
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์ฐจ์„ ์ฑ…์„ ๊ณ ์•ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹คํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š”
12:54
to ineffective prohibitionist policies,
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์ •์ฑ…์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:56
even as we need to get better at regulating
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ํ˜„์žฌ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ ์ธ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ๋„
13:00
and living with the drugs that are now legal.
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๋” ์ž˜ ๊ทœ์ œํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž˜ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:03
But the second challenge is tougher,
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๋‘๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ณผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋”์šฑ ํž˜๋“  ์ด์œ ๋Š”
13:07
because it's about us.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:10
The obstacles to reform lie not just out there
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๊ฐœํ˜์˜ ๊ฑธ๋ฆผ๋Œ์€
13:14
in the power of the prison industrial complex
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๊ต๋„์†Œ ์‚ฐ์—…์ฒด์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์ด๋‚˜
13:16
or other vested interests that want to keep things
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ํ˜„์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”
13:18
the way they are,
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๊ธฐ๋“๊ถŒ์ธต ์™ธ๋ถ€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
13:20
but within each and every one of us.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:23
It's our fears and our lack of knowledge
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋‘๋ ค์›€๊ณผ ๋ฌด์ง€์™€ ์ƒ์ƒ์ด
13:27
and imagination that stands in the way of real reform.
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์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๊ฐœํ˜์„ ๋ง‰๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:34
And ultimately, I think that boils down to the kids,
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นœ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:39
and to every parent's desire to put our baby in a bubble,
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์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๊ณผ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ชจ์˜ ์š•๊ตฌ์™€
13:42
and the fear that somehow drugs will pierce that bubble
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๋งˆ์•ฝ์ด ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•ด๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์ Š์€์ด๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํƒœ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š”
13:46
and put our young ones at risk.
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๋‘๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฐ–์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:48
In fact, sometimes it seems like the entire
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์–ด๋–ค ๋•Œ๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  "๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ"์ด
13:50
War on Drugs gets justified
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์•„๋™๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋Œ€์˜๋กœ
13:52
as one great big child protection act,
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ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌํ™”๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:56
which any young person can tell you it's not.
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์–ด๋–ค ์ Š์€์ด๋ผ๋„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ž€ ๊ฑธ ์•„๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
13:59
So here's what I say to teenagers.
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์‹ญ๋Œ€๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ•ด ์ค„ ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:03
First, don't do drugs.
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์ฒซ์งธ, ๋งˆ์•ฝ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๊ฒƒ.
14:07
Second, don't do drugs.
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๋‘˜์งธ, ๋งˆ์•ฝ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๊ฒƒ.
14:11
Third, if you do do drugs,
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์„ธ์งธ, ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ์•ฝ์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
14:14
there's some things I want you to know,
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์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•  ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
14:17
because my bottom line as your parent is,
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋กœ์„œ ์ตœ์šฐ์„  ์‚ฌํ•ญ์€
14:21
come home safely at the end of the night
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๋ฐค์— ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ท€๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ 
14:24
and grow up and lead a healthy and good adulthood.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์–ด๋ฅธ์œผ๋กœ ์ž๋ผ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:27
That's my drug education mantra: Safety first.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด "์•ˆ์ „ ์ตœ์šฐ์„ "์˜ ์ œ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ๊ต์œก ์ง€์นจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:33
So this is what I've dedicated my life to,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ—Œ์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด
14:37
to building an organization and a movement
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์‹คํŒจํ•œ ๊ธˆ์ง€์ •์ฑ…์—์„œ
14:39
of people who believe we need to turn our backs
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ํƒˆํ”ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜
14:42
on the failed prohibitions of the past
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๋‹จ์ฒด์™€ ์‚ฌํšŒ์šด๋™์„ ๊ฒฐ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ 
14:44
and embrace new drug policies grounded in science,
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๊ณผํ•™, ์—ฐ๋ฏผ, ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๊ณผ ์ธ๊ถŒ์— ๊ธฐ์ดˆํ•œ
14:47
compassion, health and human rights,
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋งˆ์•ฝ์ •์ฑ…์„ ์ˆ˜์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:50
where people who come from across the political spectrum
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ •์น˜์  ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„
14:52
and every other spectrum as well,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ ,
14:54
where people who love our drugs,
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์•ฝ๋ฌผ์„ ์• ์šฉํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
14:56
people who hate drugs,
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ํ˜์˜คํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
14:57
and people who don't give a damn about drugs,
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์•ฝ๋ฌผ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ๋„ ๋‘์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
15:00
but every one of us believes that this War on Drugs,
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์ €ํฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ‡ดํ–‰์ ์ด๊ณ 
15:03
this backward, heartless, disastrous War on Drugs,
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๋ฌด์ž๋น„ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ํŒŒ๊ดด์ ์ธ "๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ"์€
15:07
has got to end.
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์ข…์‹ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:11
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:12
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
15:27
Thank you. Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:29
Chris Anderson: Ethan,
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค: ์—๋‹จ
15:31
congrats โ€” quite the reaction.
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์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๋ฐ˜์‘์ด๋„ค์š”.
15:35
That was a powerful talk.
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๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:37
Not quite a complete standing O, though,
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๊ธฐ๋ฆฝ๋ฐ•์ˆ˜ ์ •๋„๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์–ด๋„
15:41
and I'm guessing that some people here
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ณ„์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ณผ
15:42
and maybe a few watching online,
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์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์€
15:45
maybe someone knows a teenager or a friend
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์‹ญ๋Œ€๋‚˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค ์ค‘์—์„œ
15:49
or whatever who got sick,
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๋ณ‘์ค‘์— ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ ๊ณผ๋‹ค๋ณต์šฉ์œผ๋กœ
15:51
maybe died from some drug overdose.
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์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋– ๋‚œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:54
I'm sure you've had these people approach you before.
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๋ถ„๋ช… ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ฐพ์•„์˜จ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์„ํ…๋ฐ์š”.
15:56
What do you say to them?
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์–ด๋–ค ๋ง์”€์„ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
15:58
Ethan Nadelmann: Chris, the most amazing thing that's happened of late
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์—๋‹จ: ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค, ๋†€๋ž๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ตœ๊ทผ์—
16:00
is that I've met a growing number of people
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์•ฝ๋ฌผ๊ณผ๋‹ค๋ณต์šฉ์œผ๋กœ
16:02
who have actually lost a sibling or a child
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ํ˜•์ œ๋‚˜ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ์žƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„
16:05
to a drug overdose,
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๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:07
and 10 years ago, those people just wanted to say,
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10๋…„ ์ „๋งŒํ•ด๋„ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„๋“ค์€
16:09
let's line up all the drug dealers and shoot them
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๋งˆ์•ฝ์ƒ๋“ค์„ ์ค„ ์„ธ์›Œ ๋†“๊ณ  ์ฒ˜ํ˜•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ
16:11
and that will solve it.
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๋‹ต์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:12
And what they've come to understand
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€
16:13
is that the Drug War did nothing to protect their kids.
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๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์ด ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:16
If anything, it made it more likely
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์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด
16:18
that those kids were put at risk.
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๋”์šฑ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•ด ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:20
And so they're now becoming part of this
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋งˆ์•ฝ ์ •์ฑ… ๊ฐœํ˜์—
16:21
drug policy reform movement.
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16:23
There's other people who have kids,
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์ž๋…€๋“ค์ด ์ˆ ์— ์ค‘๋…๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
16:25
one's addicted to alcohol, the other one's addicted to cocaine or heroin,
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์ฝ”์นด์ธ์ด๋‚˜ ํ—ค๋กœ์ธ์ด ์ค‘๋…๋œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
16:28
and they ask themselves the question:
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ž๋ฌธํ•ด ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:30
Why does this kid get to take one step at a time
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์–ด์งธ์„œ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์— ํ•˜๋‚˜์”ฉ
16:32
and try to get better
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์ข‹์•„์ง€๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
16:33
and that one's got to deal with jail
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์™œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฐ์˜ฅ, ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ, ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์ž๋กœ
16:35
and police and criminals all the time?
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์—ฎ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ๊นŒ?
16:37
So everybody's understanding,
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๋งˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„
16:38
the Drug War's not protecting anybody.
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๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:41
CA: Certainly in the U.S., you've got political gridlock
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค: ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ์•ˆ์ด
16:43
on most issues.
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์ •์น˜์ ์ธ ๊ต์ฐฉ์ƒํƒœ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:45
Is there any realistic chance of anything
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ํ–ฅํ›„ 5๋…„์•ˆ์— ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€
16:46
actually shifting on this issue in the next five years?
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ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋€” ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
16:50
EN: I'd say it's quite remarkable. I'm getting all these calls
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์—๋‹จ: ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ธ๋ก ์ธ๋“ค์ด
16:52
from journalists now who are saying to me,
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”ํ•ด์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:54
"Ethan, it seems like the only two issues
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"์—๋‹จ, ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ •์น˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง„๋ณดํ•œ
16:56
advancing politically in America right now
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์‚ฌ์•ˆ์ด ๋”ฑ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
16:58
are marijuana law reform and gay marriage.
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๋งˆ๋ฆฌํ™”๋‚˜ ๊ฐœํ˜๋ฒ•๊ณผ ๋™์„ฑ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:01
What are you doing right?"
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์ž˜ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ?"
17:02
And then you're looking at bipartisanship breaking out
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜ํšŒ์—์„œ ๊ณตํ™”๋‹น์ด
17:05
with, actually, Republicans in the Congress
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์—ฌ๋‹น์ธ ๋ฏผ์ฃผ๋‹น์˜ ์ง€์ง€๋กœ
17:07
and state legislatures allowing bills to be enacted
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์ฃผ์˜ํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ•์•ˆ์„ ์ œ์ •ํ•˜๋„๋ก
17:10
with majority Democratic support,
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์ดˆ๋‹น์  ํ•ฉ์˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ณด์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:12
so we've gone from being sort of the third rail,
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ •์น˜์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์šฐ๋ คํ•˜๋˜ "์ œ3์„ "
17:15
the most fearful issue of American politics,
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์ฆ‰, ๊ฑด๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ์•ˆ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€
17:17
to becoming one of the most successful.
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์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋ก€๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:20
CA: Ethan, thank you so much for coming to TEDGlobal. EN: Chris, thanks so much.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค: ์—๋‹จ, TEDGlobal์— ์™€์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—๋‹จ: ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:22
CA: Thank you. EN: Thank you. (Applause)
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—๋‹จ: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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