Lisa Margonelli: The political chemistry of oil

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Translator: Xusto Rodriguez Reviewer: Adrián Levices Casal
00:15
So I'm going to talk to you about you about the political chemistry of oil spills
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Voulles falar sobre a química política dos derramamentos de petróleo
00:18
and why this is an incredibly important,
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e por qué este é un incribelmente importante
00:21
long, oily, hot summer,
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longo, oleoso e quente verán,
00:23
and why we need to keep ourselves from getting distracted.
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e por qué precisamos estar atentos e non distraérmonos.
00:26
But before I talk about the political chemistry,
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Pero antes de falar da química política
00:28
I actually need to talk about the chemistry of oil.
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preciso falar sobre a química do petróleo.
00:31
This is a photograph from when I visited
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Esta é unha foto da vez que visitei
00:33
Prudhoe Bay in Alaska in 2002
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a baía Prudhoe en Alaska, no ano 2002
00:36
to watch the Minerals Management Service
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para ver o Servizo de Xestión de Minerais
00:38
testing their ability
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probando a súa capacidade
00:40
to burn oil spills in ice.
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para queimar derramamentos de petróleo no xeo.
00:42
And what you see here is, you see a little bit of crude oil,
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E o que ven aquí é un pouco de petróleo cru,
00:44
you see some ice cubes,
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algunhas pedras de xeo,
00:46
and you see two sandwich baggies of napalm.
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e dúas bolsas de sándwich de napalm.
00:49
The napalm is burning there quite nicely.
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O napalm estase queimando ben.
00:51
And the thing is, is that
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E o asunto é que
00:53
oil is really an abstraction for us as the American consumer.
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o petróleo é en realidade unha abstracción para nós, os consumidores estadounidenses.
00:56
We're four percent of the world's population;
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Somos o catro por cento da poboación mundial,
00:58
we use 25 percent of the world's oil production.
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e consumimos o 25 por cento da produción mundial de petróleo.
01:01
And we don't really understand what oil is,
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E non entendemos qué é o petróleo,
01:04
until you check out its molecules,
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ata que analizamos as súas moléculas.
01:06
And you don't really understand that until you see this stuff burn.
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E non o entendemos en realidade ata que o vemos arder.
01:09
So this is what happens as that burn gets going.
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Isto é o que ocorre mentres que está ardendo
01:11
It takes off. It's a big woosh.
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Vaise polo ar, cun grande estrondo.
01:13
I highly recommend that you get a chance to see crude oil burn someday,
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Recoméndolles que, se poden, vexan arder petróleo cru algunha vez,
01:16
because you will never need to hear another poli sci lecture
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porque nunca máis han precisar escoitar unha charla científico-política
01:19
on the geopolitics of oil again.
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sobre a xeopolítica do petróleo.
01:22
It'll just bake your retinas.
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Asará as súas retinas.
01:24
So there it is; the retinas are baking.
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Así que aí o está; as retinas estanse asando.
01:26
Let me tell you a little bit about this chemistry of oil.
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Déixenme contarlles algo máis sobre esta química do petróleo.
01:29
Oil is a stew of hydrocarbon molecules.
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O petróleo é un cocido de moléculas de hidrocarburo.
01:32
It starts of with the very small ones,
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Comeza coas máis pequeniñas,
01:34
which are one carbon, four hydrogen --
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que son un carbono, catro hidróxenos
01:36
that's methane -- it just floats off.
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--iso é metano-- simplemente, esváese no ar.
01:38
Then there's all sorts of intermediate ones with middle amounts of carbon.
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Despois, hai varios tipos intermedios con cantidades medias de carbono.
01:41
You've probably heard of benzene rings; they're very carcinogenic.
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Probablemente xa escoitaron falar dos aneis de benceno; son moi carcinóxenos.
01:44
And it goes all the way over
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E despois, continúa
01:46
to these big, thick, galumphy ones that have hundreds of carbons,
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con outros grandes, espesos e torpes, que teñen centos de carbonos,
01:48
and they have thousands of hydrogens,
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e milleiros de hidróxenos,
01:50
and they have vanadium and heavy metals and sulfur
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teñen vanadio, e metais pesados, e xofre
01:52
and all kinds of craziness hanging off the sides of them.
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e todo tipo de trangalladas colgadas nos seus extremos.
01:54
Those are called the asphaltenes; they're an ingredient in asphalt.
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Chámanlles asfaltenos, e son un ingrediente do asfalto.
01:57
They're very important in oil spills.
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Son moi importantes nos derramamentos de petróleo.
01:59
Let me tell you a little bit about
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Permítanme falarlles un pouco
02:01
the chemistry of oil in water.
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sobre a química do petróleo na auga.
02:04
It is this chemistry that makes oil so disastrous.
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É esta química a que converte o petróleo nalgo tan nocivo.
02:07
Oil doesn't sink, it floats.
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O petróleo non afunde, aboia.
02:09
If it sank, it would be a whole different story as far as an oil spill.
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Se afundira, os derramamentos serían algo moi diferente.
02:12
And the other thing it does is it spreads out the moment it hits the water.
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E a outra cousa que fai é esparexerse tan axiña como toca na auga.
02:15
It spreads out to be really thin,
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Esparéxese formando unha capa moi, moi fina,
02:17
so you have a hard time corralling it.
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por iso, faise moi difícil de controlar.
02:19
The next thing that happens
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O que ocorre despois
02:21
is the light ends evaporate,
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é que as partes máis lixeiras evapóranse
02:24
and some of the toxic things float into the water column
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e algúns compoñentes tóxicos aboian dentro da columna de auga
02:27
and kill fish eggs
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matando ovas de peixes
02:29
and smaller fish and things like that, and shrimp.
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e os peixes máis pequenos, e cousas semellantes, e camaróns.
02:32
And then the asphaltenes -- and this is the crucial thing --
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E despois os asfaltenos --e isto é un asunto crucial--
02:34
the asphaltenes get whipped by the waves
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os asfaltenos son batidos polas ondas
02:37
into a frothy emulsion, something like mayonnaise.
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ata convertérense nunha emulsión cremosa, como a maionesa.
02:39
It triples the amount
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Isto triplica a cantidade
02:41
of oily, messy goo that you have in the water,
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de residuos oleosos na auga
02:44
and it makes it very hard to handle.
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e fainos moi difíciles de manexar.
02:46
It also makes it very viscous.
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E tamén moi viscosos.
02:48
When the Prestige sank off the coast of Spain,
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Cando o Prestige afundiu na costa española,
02:51
there were big, floating cushions the size of sofa cushions
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houbo grandes manchas flotantes, do tamaño de coxíns de sofá,
02:54
of emulsified oil,
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de petróleo emulsionado
02:56
with the consistency, or the viscosity, of chewing gum.
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coa consistencia ou a viscosidade da goma de mascar.
02:58
It's incredibly hard to clean up.
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É dificilísimo de limpar.
03:00
And every single oil is different when it hits water.
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E cada tipo de petróleo reacciona de forma distinta cando toca a auga.
03:03
When the chemistry of the oil and water
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Cando a química do petróleo e a agua
03:05
also hits our politics,
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toca a política
03:07
it's absolutely explosive.
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vírase totalmente explosiva.
03:09
For the first time, American consumers
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Por vez primeira os consumidores estadounidenses
03:11
will kind of see the oil supply chain in front of themselves.
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verán en fronte deles a cadea de subministración de petróleo.
03:15
They have a "eureka!" moment,
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Van ter un momento "eureka!",
03:17
when we suddenly understand oil in a different context.
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cando, de súpeto, entendamos o petróleo nun contexto diferente.
03:20
So I'm going to talk just a little bit about the origin of these politics,
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Así que lles vou falar un pouco sobre a orixe destas políticas,
03:23
because it's really crucial to understanding
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porque é realmente crucial entender
03:25
why this summer is so important, why we need to stay focused.
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por que este verán é tan importante, por que precisamos manter o foco sobre el.
03:28
Nobody gets up in the morning and thinks,
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Ninguén se ergue pola mañá e pensa
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"Wow! I'm going to go buy
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"Humm, vou mercar
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some three-carbon-to-12-carbon molecules to put in my tank
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unhas cantas moléculas de tres a doce carbonos para botar no depósito
03:34
and drive happily to work."
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e conducir con ledicia cara ao traballo."
03:36
No, they think, "Ugh. I have to go buy gas.
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Non, o que pensamos é "Ugh, teño que mercar gasolina.
03:38
I'm so angry about it. The oil companies are ripping me off.
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Iso moléstame. As compañías petrolíferas estanme arruinando.
03:40
They set the prices, and I don't even know.
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Elas marcan os prezos e nin tan sequera me decato.
03:42
I am helpless over this."
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Estou indefenso."
03:44
And this is what happens to us at the gas pump --
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Isto é o que nos pasa nun surtidor de gasolina.
03:46
and actually, gas pumps are specifically designed
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En realidade, os surtidores están deseñados especificamente
03:48
to diffuse that anger.
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para esvaer esa rabia.
03:50
You might notice that many gas pumps, including this one,
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Poden ver que moitos surtidores, incluíndo este,
03:52
are designed to look like ATMs.
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están deseñados para pareceren caixeiros electrónicos.
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I've talked to engineers. That's specifically to diffuse our anger,
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Falei do asunto con enxeñeiros. Están deseñados para esvaer a nosa rabia,
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because supposedly we feel good about ATMs.
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porque, en teoría, gústannos os caixeiros automáticos.
03:59
(Laughter)
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(Risos)
04:01
That shows you how bad it is.
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Isto demostra o malo que é.
04:03
But actually, I mean, this feeling of helplessness
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Pero, en realidade, ese sentimento de impotencia
04:05
comes in because most Americans actually feel
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aparece porque a maioría dos estadounidenses pensa
04:08
that oil prices are the result of a conspiracy,
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que o prezo do petróleo é o resultado dunha conspiración,
04:11
not of the vicissitudes of the world oil market.
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e non das vicisitudes do mercado mundial do petróleo.
04:14
And the thing is, too,
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E o conto é que, amais,
04:16
is that we also feel very helpless about the amount that we consume,
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sentímonos moi impotentes coa cantidade que consumimos,
04:18
which is somewhat reasonable,
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o que é razoable,
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because in fact, we have designed this system
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porque, de feito, deseñamos este sistema
04:23
where, if you want to get a job,
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onde, se queres conseguir un traballo,
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it's much more important to have a car that runs,
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é moito máis importante ter un coche que funcione,
04:29
to have a job and keep a job, than to have a GED.
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ca ter un diploma.
04:32
And that's actually very perverse.
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E isto é realmente perverso.
04:34
Now there's another perverse thing about the way we buy gas,
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E tamén hai outra cousa perversa na forma en que compramos gasolina,
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which is that we'd rather be doing anything else.
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o feito de que prefeririamos estar facendo calquera outra cousa.
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This is BP's gas station
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Esta é unha gasolineira de British Petroleum
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in downtown Los Angeles.
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no centro de Los Ángeles.
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It is green. It is a shrine to greenishness.
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É verde. Un santuario de verdor.
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"Now," you think, "why would something so lame
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E pensarán vostedes "por que algo tan chafalleiro
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work on people so smart?"
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funciona con xente tan intelixente?"
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Well, the reason is, is because, when we're buying gas,
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Pois ben, a razón é que, cando estamos mercando gasolina,
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we're very invested in this sort of cognitive dissonance.
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estamos metidos nesta disonancia cognitiva.
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I mean, we're angry at the one hand and we want to be somewhere else.
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Estamos molestos e queremos estar noutro lugar.
04:59
We don't want to be buying oil;
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Nós non queremos estar mercando gasolina;
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we want to be doing something green.
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queremos estar facendo algo ecolóxico.
05:03
And we get kind of in on our own con.
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E quedamos atrapados nas nosas propias contradicións.
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I mean -- and this is funny,
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Quero dicir --e isto é divertido.
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it looks funny here.
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Parece divertido aquí.
05:10
But in fact, that's why the slogan "beyond petroleum" worked.
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Por iso funcionou o eslogan "alén do petróleo".
05:13
But it's an inherent part of our energy policy,
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Pero é unha parte inherente da nosa política enerxética,
05:16
which is we don't talk about
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da que non falamos,
05:18
reducing the amount of oil that we use.
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reducir a cantidade de petróleo que usamos.
05:20
We talk about energy independence. We talk about hydrogen cars.
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Falamos de independencia enerxética. Falamos de coches de hidróxeno.
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We talk about biofuels that haven't been invented yet.
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Falamos de biocombustibles que aínda non se inventaron.
05:25
And so, cognitive dissonance
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E, xa que logo, a disonancia cognitiva
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is part and parcel of the way that we deal with oil,
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é parte da maneira en que lidamos co petróleo,
05:31
and it's really important to dealing with this oil spill.
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e é moi importante para lidar con este derramamento de petróleo.
05:33
Okay, so the politics of oil
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Ben, a política do petróleo
05:36
are very moral in the United States.
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é moi moral nos Estados Unidos.
05:38
The oil industry is like a huge, gigantic octopus
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A industria do petróleo é coma un polbo xigantesco
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of engineering and finance
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de enxeñaría e finanzas
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and everything else,
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e todo o demais,
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but we actually see it in very moral terms.
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pero en realidade vémolo en termos moi morais.
05:47
This is an early-on photograph -- you can see, we had these gushers.
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Esta é unha fotografía antiga. Poden ver que tiñamos eses pozos.
05:50
Early journalists looked at these spills,
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Xornalistas daquel tempo viron eses derramamentos,
05:52
and they said, "This is a filthy industry."
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e dixeron: "Esta é unha industria suxa."
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But they also saw in it
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Pero tamén viron
05:56
that people were getting rich for doing nothing.
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que a xente estaba a facerse rica sen facer nada.
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They weren't farmers, they were just getting rich for stuff coming out of the ground.
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Non eran labregos, estaban a facerse ricos simplemente co que emerxía do chan.
06:01
It's the "Beverly Hillbillies," basically.
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Era, basicamente, "Os Beverly Ricos".
06:03
But in the beginning, this was seen as a very morally problematic thing,
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Pero, ao comezo, isto viuse coma un problema ético,
06:06
long before it became funny.
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moito antes de converterse nalgo divertido.
06:08
And then, of course, there was John D. Rockefeller.
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E entón, por suposto, velaí estaba John D. Rockefeller.
06:11
And the thing about John D. is that
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E o que pasou con John D. é que
06:13
he went into this chaotic wild-east
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se meteu neste caótico salvaxe Oeste
06:15
of oil industry,
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da industria do petróleo
06:17
and he rationalized it
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e racionalizouna
06:19
into a vertically integrated company, a multinational.
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nunha compañía integrada verticalmente, unha multinacional.
06:22
It was terrifying; you think Walmart is a terrifying business model now,
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Foi terrorífico. Pensan que Walmart é un modelo aterrador de negocios no presente?
06:25
imagine what this looked like in the 1860s or 1870s.
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Imaxinen como sería en 1860 ou 1870.
06:28
And it also the kind of root
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E isto é tamén a orixe
06:31
of how we see oil as a conspiracy.
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de que vexamos o petróleo coma unha conspiración.
06:34
But what's really amazing is that
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Pero o realmente sorprendente é que
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Ida Tarbell, the journalist,
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Ida Tarbell, a xornalista,
06:39
went in and did a big exposé of Rockefeller
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fixo unha grande investigación sobre Rockefeller
06:42
and actually got the whole antitrust laws
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e conseguiu que a lexislación antimonopolística
06:44
put in place.
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fose promulgada.
06:46
But in many ways,
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Pero en moitos sentidos,
06:48
that image of the conspiracy still sticks with us.
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a imaxe da conspiración aínda segue pegada a nós.
06:50
And here's one of the things
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Velaquí unha das cousas
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that Ida Tarbell said --
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que dixo Ida Tarbell:
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she said, "He has a thin nose like a thorn.
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"Ten un nariz fino coma unha espiña.
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There were no lips.
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Non ten beizos.
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There were puffs under the little colorless eyes
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Ten bolsas debaixo duns olliños sen cor
07:01
with creases running from them."
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e con engurras saíndo deles."
07:03
(Laughter)
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(Risos)
07:05
Okay, so that guy is actually still with us.
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Ben, ese fulano está aínda connosco.
07:07
(Laughter)
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(Risos)
07:09
I mean, this is a very pervasive -- this is part of our DNA.
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Ou sexa, esta é unha forma moi estendida -- é parte do noso ADN.
07:12
And then there's this guy, okay.
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E ademais temos a este fulano.
07:15
So, you might be wondering why it is that,
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Así que vostedes poden estarse preguntando por que
07:17
every time we have high oil prices or an oil spill,
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cada vez que hai subas dos prezos do petróleo, ou un derramamento,
07:19
we call these CEOs down to Washington,
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chamamos a estes altos executivos de Washington,
07:22
and we sort of pepper them with questions in public and we try to shame them.
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e os bombardeamos con preguntas en público, e tratamos de envergoñalos.
07:25
And this is something that we've been doing since 1974,
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Isto é algo que vimos facendo desde 1974,
07:28
when we first asked them, "Why are there these obscene profits?"
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cando lles preguntamos por vez primeira: "Por que existen estas ganancias obscenas?"
07:31
And we've sort of personalized the whole oil industry
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E case personalizamos toda a industria do petróleo
07:33
into these CEOs.
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nestes altos executivos.
07:35
And we take it as, you know --
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E nós tomámola,
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we look at it on a moral level,
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mirámola nun plano moral,
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rather than looking at it on a legal and financial level.
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no canto de facelo no económico e legal.
07:43
And so I'm not saying these guys aren't liable to answer questions --
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E non quero dicir que estes fulanos non teñan a responsabilidade de responder esas preguntas,
07:46
I'm just saying that, when you focus on
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o que estou dicindo é que, se nos centramos
07:48
whether they are or are not a bunch of greedy bastards,
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en se son ou non unha tropa de bastardos avarentos,
07:51
you don't actually get around to the point
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non estamos achegándonos ao punto
07:53
of making laws that are either going to either change the way they operate,
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de facer leis que cambien a forma en que eles traballan,
07:56
or you're going to get around
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ou de chegarmos
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to really reducing the amount of oil
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a reducir realmente o consumo de petróleo
08:00
and reducing our dependence on oil.
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e a nosa dependencia del.
08:02
So I'm saying this is kind of a distraction.
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O que estou dicindo é que isto é unha distracción.
08:04
But it makes for good theater,
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Pero creou un bo teatro,
08:06
and it's powerfully cathartic as you probably saw last week.
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e é terriblemente catártico, como probablemente viron a semana pasada.
08:10
So the thing about water oil spills
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A cuestión dos derramamentos de petróleo na auga
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is that they are very politically galvanizing.
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é que están promovidos politicamente.
08:15
I mean, these pictures -- this is from the Santa Barbara spill.
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É dicir, estas fotos --estas son do derramamento de Santa Bárbara.
08:18
You have these pictures of birds.
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Velaí estas fotos de paxaros.
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They really influence people.
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Realmente inflúen na xente.
08:22
When the Santa Barbara spill happened in 1969,
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Cando ocorreu o derramamento de Santa Bárbara,
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it formed the environmental movement in its modern form.
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formouse o movemento ambiental na súa forma moderna.
08:27
It started Earth Day.
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Comezou a celebrarse o Día da Terra.
08:29
It also put in place the National Environmental Policy Act,
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E tamén puxo en marcha a Lei nacional de política ambiental,
08:32
the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act.
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a Lei do aire puro, a Lei da auga limpa.
08:35
Everything that we are really stemmed from this period.
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Todo o que somos é resultado dese período.
08:38
I think it's important to kind of look at these pictures of the birds
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Penso que é importante botarlles unha ollada a estas fotos de paxaros
08:41
and understand what happens to us.
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e entendendermos o que nos ocorre.
08:43
Here we are normally;
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Velaí estamos nós habitualmente;
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we're standing at the gas pump, and we're feeling kind of helpless.
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parados na gasolineira, sentíndonos impotentes.
08:47
We look at these pictures
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Vemos esas fotos
08:49
and we understand, for the first time, our role in this supply chain.
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e entendemos, por primeira vez, o noso papel na cadea de subministración.
08:52
We connect the dots in the supply chain.
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Atamos os cabos da cadea de subministración.
08:54
And we have this kind of --
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E temos este tipo de...
08:56
as voters, we have kind of a "eureka!" moment.
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como votantes, temos un momento "eureka!".
08:59
This is why these moments of these oil spills
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E por iso, estes momentos dos derramamentos
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are so important.
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son tan importantes.
09:03
But it's also really important that we don't get distracted
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Pero tamén é moi importante que non nos distraiamos
09:06
by the theater or the morals of it.
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polo teatro ou a moral de todo isto.
09:08
We actually need to go in
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Precisamos ir ao fondo
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and work on the roots of the problem.
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e traballar sobre as raíces do problema.
09:12
One of the things that happened with the two previous oil spills
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Unha das cousas que ocorreron cos dous derramamentos anteriores
09:15
was that we really worked on some of the symptoms.
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foi que en realidade traballamos sobre algúns dos síntomas.
09:18
We were very reactive, as opposed to being proactive
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Fomos moi reactivos, no canto de sermos proactivos
09:20
about what happened.
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en relación co que ocorreu.
09:22
And so what we did was, actually,
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E o que fixemos foi
09:24
we made moratoriums on the east and west coasts on drilling.
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establecer moratorias nas perforacións das costas leste e oeste.
09:27
We stopped drilling in ANWR,
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Paramos as perforacións na Reserva Nacional da Vida Salvaxe no Ártico,
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but we didn't actually reduce the amount of oil that we consumed.
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pero non reducimos a cantidade de petróleo que consumiamos.
09:33
In fact, it's continued to increase.
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De feito, continuou a aumentar.
09:35
The only thing that really reduces the amount of oil that we consume
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O único que pode reducir a cantidade de petróleo que consumimos
09:38
is much higher prices.
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é incrementar os prezos.
09:40
As you can see, our own production has fallen off
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Como poden ver, a nosa produción propia baixou
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as our reservoirs have gotten old and expensive to drill out.
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a medida que os nosos xacementos se fan vellos e caros de perforar.
09:44
We only have two percent of the world's oil reserves;
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Só temos o dous por centro das reservas mundiais de petróleo.
09:47
65 percent of them are in the Persian Gulf.
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O sesenta e cinco por cento está no Golfo Pérsico.
09:50
One of the things that's happened because of this
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Unha das cousas que ocorreron por causa disto
09:52
is that, since 1969,
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é que, desde 1969,
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the country of Nigeria, or the part of Nigeria that pumps oil,
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Nixeria, ou a parte dela en que se extrae petróleo,
09:58
which is the delta -- which is two times the size of Maryland --
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o Delta --que ten o dobre do tamaño de Maryland--
10:01
has had thousands of oil spills a year.
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tivo milleiros de derramamentos ao ano.
10:03
I mean, we've essentially been exporting oil spills
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É dicir, estivemos basicamente exportando derramamentos de petróleo
10:05
when we import oil from places
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ao importármolo de lugares
10:07
without tight environmental regulations.
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sen regulacións ambientais ríxidas.
10:09
That has been the equivalent of an Exxon Valdez spill
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Isto vén sendo o equivalente a un derramamento do Exxon Valdez
10:12
every year since 1969.
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cada ano desde 1969.
10:15
And we can wrap our heads around the spills,
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E podemos agochar as cabezas en relación cos derramamentos,
10:17
because that's what we see here,
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porque isto é o que vemos aquí,
10:19
but in fact, these guys actually live in a war zone.
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pero, na verdade, estes fulanos viven realmente nunha zona de guerra.
10:21
There's a thousand battle-related deaths a year
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Hai milleiros de mortes anuais relacionadas coas guerras
10:24
in this area twice the size of Maryland,
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nesta área que é o dobre de grande ca Maryland,
10:26
and it's all related to the oil.
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e todas están relacionadas co petróleo.
10:28
And these guys, I mean, if they were in the U.S.,
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E esta xente, é dicir, se viviran nos Estados Unidos
10:30
they might be actually here in this room.
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pode que estiveran aquí, nesta sala.
10:32
They have degrees in political science, degrees in business --
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Teñen títulos en ciencias políticas, en empresariais.
10:34
they're entrepreneurs. They don't actually want to be doing what they're doing.
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Son emprendedores. En realidade, non queren facer o que están facendo.
10:38
And it's sort of one of the other groups of people
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E son outro dos grupos de persoas
10:41
who pay a price for us.
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que pagan o prezo por nós.
10:43
The other thing that we've done,
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Outra cousa que fixemos
10:45
as we've continued to increase demand,
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a medida que seguimos a incrementar a demanda
10:47
is that we kind of play a shell game with the costs.
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é que medio xogamos aos agochos cos custos.
10:50
One of the places we put in a big oil project
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Un dos lugares en que instalamos un gran proxecto petrolífero
10:53
in Chad, with Exxon.
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é en Chad, con Exxon.
10:55
So the U.S. taxpayer paid for it;
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Os contribuentes americanos pagan por el;
10:57
the World Bank, Exxon paid for it.
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o Banco Mundial pagou por el; e Exxon.
10:59
We put it in. There was a tremendous banditry problem.
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Pospuxémolo. Había un grandísimo problema de bandidaxe.
11:02
I was there in 2003.
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Estiven alí en 2003.
11:04
We were driving along this dark, dark road,
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Estabamos conducindo por esta estrada tan tan escura,
11:06
and the guy in the green stepped out,
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e saíu un home de verde,
11:08
and I was just like, "Ahhh! This is it."
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e eu pensei: "Ahhh! Isto é o fin."
11:11
And then the guy in the Exxon uniform stepped out,
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E entón, saíu o home co uniforme de Exxon
11:14
and we realized it was okay.
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e decatámonos de que todo ía ben.
11:16
They have their own private sort of army around them at the oil fields.
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Teñen o seu propio exército privado arredor deles nos campos petrolíferos.
11:18
But at the same time,
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Pero ao mesmo tempo,
11:20
Chad has become much more unstable,
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Chad volveuse moito máis inestábel,
11:22
and we are not paying for that price at the pump.
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e nós non estamos a pagar no surtidor ese prezo.
11:25
We pay for it in our taxes on April 15th.
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Pagámolos cos nosos impostos o 15 de abril.
11:28
We do the same thing
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Facemos o mesmo
11:30
with the price of policing the Persian Gulf
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cos custos de patrullar o Golfo Pérsico
11:32
and keeping the shipping lanes open.
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e manter abertas as rutas marítimas.
11:34
This is 1988 --
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Esta foto é de 1988.
11:36
we actually bombed two Iranian oil platforms that year.
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Ese ano, bombardeamos dúas plataformas petrolíferas iranís.
11:39
That was the beginning of an escalating U.S. involvement there
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Foi o comezo dunha escalada de implicación americana alí
11:41
that we do not pay for at the pump.
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pola que non pagamos no surtidor.
11:43
We pay for it on April 15th,
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Pagamos o 15 de abril,
11:45
and we can't even calculate the cost of this involvement.
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e nin tan sequera podemos calcular os custos desa implicación.
11:48
The other place that is sort of supporting our dependence on oil
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Outro lugar que está sostendo, en certa forma, a nosa dependencia do petróleo
11:51
and our increased consumption
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e o noso consumo crecente
11:54
is the Gulf of Mexico,
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é o Golfo de México,
11:56
which was not part of the moratoriums.
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que non foi incluído nas moratorias.
11:58
Now what's happened in the Gulf of Mexico -- as you can see,
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O que pasou no Golfo de México... como poden ver,
12:00
this is the Minerals Management diagram
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este é o gráfico do Servizo de Xestión de Minerais
12:02
of wells for gas and oil.
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de pozos petrolíferos e de gas.
12:04
It's become this intense industrialized zone.
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Converteuse nesta zona intensamente industrializada.
12:06
It doesn't have the same resonance for us
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Isto non ten a mesma repercusión en nós
12:08
that the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge has,
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cá Reserva Nacional da Vida Salvaxe no Ártico,
12:10
but it should, I mean, it's a bird sanctuary.
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pero debería, porque é un santuario de aves.
12:13
Also, every time you buy gasoline in the United States,
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Tamén, cada vez que compramos combustible nos Estados Unidos,
12:15
half of it is actually being refined along the coast,
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a metade del estase refinando na costa,
12:18
because the Gulf actually has
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porqueo Golfo ten
12:20
about 50 percent of our refining capacity
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perto do 50 % da nosa capacidade de refinamento
12:22
and a lot of our marine terminals as well.
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e tamén moitas das nosas terminais marítimas.
12:24
So the people of the Gulf have essentially been subsidizing the rest of us
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Así que a xente do Golfo estivo -no esencial- subvencionándonos
12:27
through a less-clean environment.
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a travén dun medio ambiente máis contaminado.
12:30
And finally, American families also pay a price for oil.
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E por último, as familias estadounidenses tamén pagan un prezo polo petróleo.
12:33
Now on the one hand, the price at the pump is not really very high
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Por unha banda, o prezo nos surtidores non é realmente moi alto
12:36
when you consider the actual cost of the oil,
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se consideramos o custo actual do petróleo,
12:38
but on the other hand,
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pero pola outra,
12:40
the fact that people have no other transit options
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o feito de a xente non ter outra opción de transporte
12:43
means that they pay a large amount of their income
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significa que gasta gran parte dos seus ingresos
12:46
into just getting back and forth to work,
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en ir e voltar do traballo,
12:48
generally in a fairly crummy car.
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normalmente nun coche bastante estragado.
12:50
If you look at people who make $50,000 a year, they have two kids,
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Se observamos a xente que gaña 50.000 dólares ao ano, teñen dous fillos,
12:53
they might have three jobs or more,
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probablemente teñan tres traballos ou máis
12:55
and then they have to really commute.
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e teñen que viaxar para traballar.
12:57
They're actually spending more on their car and fuel
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En realidade, están gastando máis no seu coche e en combustible
13:00
than they are on taxes or on health care.
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ca en impostos ou en saúde.
13:02
And the same thing happens
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E o mesmo acontece
13:04
at the 50th percentile, around 80,000.
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no percentil 50, arredor dos 80,000 dólares.
13:07
Gasoline costs are a tremendous drain
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Os custos de combustible son un enorme sumidoiro
13:09
on the American economy,
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na economía estadounidense,
13:11
but they're also a drain on individual families
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pero tamén o son para as familias individuais,
13:14
and it's kind of terrifying to think about what happens when prices get higher.
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e é terrible pensar no que acontece cando os prezos soben.
13:17
So, what I'm going to talk to you about now is:
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Entón, do que lles vou falar agora é:
13:20
what do we have to do this time?
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Que temos que facer desta vez?
13:22
What are the laws? What do we have to do to keep ourselves focused?
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Cales son as leis? Que é o que debemos facer para mantérmonos ben enfocados?
13:25
One thing is -- we need to stay away from the theater.
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Una primeira cousa é mantérmonos afastados do teatro.
13:27
We need to stay away from the moratoriums.
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Precisamos mantérmonos afastados das moratorias.
13:29
We need to focus really back again
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Precisamos focalizar novamente
13:31
on the molecules.
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sobre as moléculas.
13:33
The moratoriums are fine, but we do need to focus
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As moratorias están ben, pero precisamos focalizar
13:36
on the molecules on the oil.
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nas moléculas do petróleo.
13:38
One of the things that we also need to do,
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Unha das cousas que precisamos facer
13:40
is we need to try to not kind of fool ourselves
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é tentar non enganármonos
13:42
into thinking that you can have a green world,
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pensando que podemos ter un mundo verde
13:45
before you reduce the amount of oil that we use.
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antes de reducir a cantidade de petróleo que consumimos.
13:47
We need to focus on reducing the oil.
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Necesitamos poñer o foco na redución de petróleo.
13:49
What you see in this top drawing is a schematic
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O que vén neste deseño é un esquema
13:52
of how petroleum gets used in the U.S. economy.
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de como se usa o petróleo na economía estadounidense.
13:54
It comes in on the side -- the useful stuff is the dark gray,
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Comezando polo lado -- a parte máis útil está en gris escuro,
13:57
and the un-useful stuff,
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e as inútiles,
13:59
which is called the rejected energy -- the waste,
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coñecidas como enerxía rexeitada, o residuo,
14:02
goes up to the top.
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aparece na parte superior.
14:04
Now you can see that the waste far outweighs
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Poden ver como o residuo é moito máis grande
14:06
the actually useful amount.
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cá parte máis útil.
14:08
And one of the things that we need to do
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E unha das cousas que temos que facer é,
14:10
is, not only fix the fuel efficiency of our vehicles
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non só arranxar a eficiencia de consumo dos nosos vehículos
14:12
and make them much more efficient,
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e facelos moito máis eficientes,
14:14
but we also need to fix the economy in general.
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senón arranxar a economía en xeral.
14:16
We need to remove the perverse incentives to use more fuel.
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Necesitamos eliminar os incentivos perversos para usar máis combustible.
14:19
For example, we have an insurance system
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Por exemplo, temos un sistema de seguros
14:21
where the person who drives 20,000 miles a year
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polo que a xente que conduce 30000 millas ao ano
14:24
pays the same insurance as somebody who drives 3,000.
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paga o mesmo seguro ca quen conduce 3000.
14:27
We actually encourage people to drive more.
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En realidade, incentivamos á xente a conducir máis.
14:29
We have policies that reward sprawl -- we have all kinds of policies.
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Temos políticas que premian a expansión das cidades. Temos todo tipo de políticas.
14:32
We need to have more mobility choices.
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Precisamos ter máis alternativas de mobilidade.
14:34
We need to make the gas price
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Precisamos facer que os prezos do combustible
14:36
better reflect the real cost of oil.
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reflictan mellor os custos reais do petróleo.
14:38
And we need to shift subsidies from the oil industry,
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E precisamos cambiar os subsidios á industria petrolífera,
14:41
which is at least 10 billion dollars a year,
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que son, como pouco, de 10000 millóns de dólares ao ano,
14:44
into something that allows middle-class people to find better ways to commute.
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por algo que lle permita á clase media atopar mellores formas de desprazarse ao traballo.
14:47
Whether that's getting a much more efficient car
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Quer conseguindo coches moito máis eficientes
14:50
and also kind of building markets
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quer creando mercados
14:52
for new cars and new fuels down the road,
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para novos coches e combustibles,
14:54
this is where we need to be.
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isto é o que temos que facer.
14:56
We need to kind of rationalize this whole thing,
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Temos que racionalizar todo este ámbito,
14:58
and you can find more about this policy.
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e poden atopar máis información sobre esta política.
15:00
It's called STRONG, which is "Secure Transportation
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Chámase STRONG, que significa -- "Transporte Seguro
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Reducing Oil Needs Gradually,"
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para a Redución Gradual das Necesidades de Petróleo",
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and the idea is instead of being helpless, we need to be more strong.
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e a idea é que, no canto de sentírmonos impotentes, precisamos ser máis fortes.
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They're up at NewAmerica.net.
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Están en NewAmerica.net.
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What's important about these
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O importante disto
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is that we try to move
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é que tentamos pasar
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from feeling helpless at the pump,
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do sentimento de impotencia diante do surtidor
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to actually being active
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a ser realmente activos
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and to really sort of thinking about who we are,
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e para pensarmos quen somos en realidade,
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having kind of that special moment,
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termos ese momento especial
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where we connect the dots actually at the pump.
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en que atamos os cabos diante do surtidor.
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Now supposedly, oil taxes
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Agora, supostamente, os impostos ao petróleo
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are the third rail of American politics -- the no-fly zone.
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son un aspecto intocable da política estadounidense.
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I actually -- I agree that a dollar a gallon on oil
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Eu concordo en que un dólar por galón [uns 4 litros] de petróleo
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is probably too much,
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é probablemente excesivo,
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but I think that if we started this year
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pero penso que se comezamos este ano
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with three cents a gallon on gasoline,
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con tres centavos por galón de gasolina
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and upped it to six cents next year, nine cents the following year,
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e o aumentamos a seis centavos o ano que vén, e a nove centavos o seguinte,
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all the way up to 30 cents by 2020,
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e así ata chegar aos 30 centavos en 2020,
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that we could actually significantly reduce our gasoline consumption,
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poderiamos reducir significativamente o noso consumo de gasolina,
15:49
and at the same time we would give people time to prepare,
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e á vez darlle tempo á xente para prepararse,
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time to respond,
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tempo para responder,
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and we would be raising money and raising consciousness at the same time.
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e poderiamos estar recadando diñeiro e aumentando a concienciación á vez.
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Let me give you a little sense of how this would work.
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Déixenme amosarlles un pouco como funcionaría isto.
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This is a gas receipt, hypothetically, for a year from now.
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Este é un tique de combustible, ficticio, do ano vindeiro.
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The first thing that you have on the tax is --
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O primeiro que vemos é o imposto:
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you have a tax for a stronger America -- 33 cents.
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temos un imposto para uns EE. UU. máis fortes --33 centavos.
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So you're not helpless at the pump.
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Así, non nos sentimos impotentes no surtidor.
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And the second thing that you have is a kind of warning sign,
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O segundo que vemos é unha especie de sinal de alerta,
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very similar to what you would find
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moi parecido ao que atopamos
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on a cigarette pack.
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nun paquete de cigarros.
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And what it says is, "The National Academy of Sciences
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E que di o seguinte: "A Academia Nacional de Ciencias
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estimates that every gallon of gas you burn in your car
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calcula que cada galón de combustible que usa no seu coche
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creates 29 cents in health care costs."
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supón 29 centavos en custos sanitarios."
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That's a lot.
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Iso é moito.
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And so this -- you can see that you're paying considerably less
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E por iso --podemos ver que estamos pagando considerablemente menos de impostos
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than the health care costs on the tax.
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cós custos sanitarios.
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And also, the hope is that
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E tamén, a esperanza é que
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you start to be connected to the whole greater system.
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comecemos a conectarnos con todo o sistema maior.
16:38
And at the same time, you have a number that you can call
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E ao mesmo tempo, no tique temos ao que podemos chamar
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to get more information on commuting,
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para obter máis información sobre formas de desprazamento,
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or a low-interest loan on a different kind of car,
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ou sobre un préstamo a xuros baixos para mercar un tipo diferente de coche,
16:46
or whatever it is you're going to need
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ou para calquera cousa que necesite
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to actually reduce your gasoline dependence.
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para reducir a súa dependencia da gasolina.
16:52
With this whole sort of suite of policies,
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Con todo este abano de políticas,
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we could actually reduce our gasoline consumption --
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poderiamos reducir o noso consumo de gasolina --
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or our oil consumption --
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ou o noso consumo de petróleo--
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by 20 percent by 2020.
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nun 20 % para o 2020.
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So, three million barrels a day.
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É dicir, tres millóns de barrís ao día.
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But in order to do this,
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Pero para facer isto
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one of the things we really need to do, is we need to remember
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unha das cousas que precisamos facer é lembrar
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we are people of the hydrocarbon.
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que somos o pobo dos hidrocarburos.
17:10
We need to keep or minds on the molecules
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Precisamos manter as mentes nas moléculas
17:12
and not get distracted by the theater,
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e non distraernos co teatro,
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not get distracted by the cognitive dissonance
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nin coa disonancia cognitiva
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of the green possibilities that are out there.
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das posibilidades "verdes" que hai aí fóra.
17:19
We need to kind of get down and do the gritty work
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Precisamos ir á cerna do asunto e facer o traballo difícil
17:21
of reducing our dependence upon this fuel and these molecules.
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de reducir a nosa dependencia deste combustible e destas moléculas.
17:24
Thank you.
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Graciñas.
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(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
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