John Maeda: How art, technology and design inform creative leaders

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

00:00
Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: Razan O Bashir mousa ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Anwar Dafa-Alla
00:15
I have to say that I'm very glad to be here.
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ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุณุนูŠุฏ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ู„ูƒูˆู†ูŠ ู‡ู†ุง
00:17
I understand we have over 80 countries here,
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ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุญุถูˆุฑ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† 80 ุฌู†ุณูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุฏูˆู„ ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ ู‡ู†ุง
00:21
so that's a whole new paradigm for me to speak
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ู„ุฐุง ุณุชูƒูˆู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซ
00:23
to all of these countries.
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ุฃู…ุงู… ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฌู†ุณูŠุงุช
00:24
In each country, I'm sure you have this thing called
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ุฃู†ุง ู…ุชุฃูƒุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ููŠ ูƒู„ ุจู„ุฏ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃู…ุฑ ูŠุฏุนู‰
00:26
the parent-teacher conference.
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ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน ุงู„ุฃู‡ู„ ู…ุน ุงู„ุงุณุชุงุฐ
00:28
Do you know about the parent-teacher conference?
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ู‡ู„ ุชุนุฑููˆู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน
00:30
Not the ones for your kids, but the one you had as a child,
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ู„ูŠุณ ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุนุฑูู‡ ุฃุทูุงู„ูƒู…ุŒ ุฅู†ู…ุง ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุนุฑูุชู…ูˆู‡ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูƒู†ุชู… ุฃุทูุงู„ุงู‹
00:33
where your parents come to school and your teacher
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠุฃุชูŠ ุฃู‡ู„ูƒู… ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ูˆ ู…ุนู„ู…ูƒ
00:36
talks to your parents, and it's a little bit awkward.
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ูŠุชูƒู„ู… ู…ุน ุงู„ุฃู‡ู„ุŒ ูˆูŠูƒูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุฑุจูƒ ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุงู‹
00:38
Well, I remember in third grade, I had this moment
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ููŠ ุงู„ุตู ุงู„ุซุงู„ุซ ุชุนุฑุถุช ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ู
00:41
where my father, who never takes off from work,
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ุญูŠุซ ู‚ุงู… ุฃุจูŠุŒ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู„ุง ูŠุชุฑูƒ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ู†ู‡ุงุฆูŠุงู‹
00:44
he's a classical blue collar, a working-class immigrant person,
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ุฅู†ู‡ ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ูƒู„ุงุณูŠูƒูŠ ู„ู„ู…ูˆุธู ุตุงุญุจ ุงู„ูŠุงู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุฒุฑู‚ุงุกุŒ ุดุฎุต ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุทุจู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุนุงู…ู„ุฉ
00:48
going to school to see his son, how he's doing,
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ุฐุงู‡ุจ ู„ู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ู„ุชูู‚ุฏ ุงุจู†ู‡ุŒ ูˆูƒูŠู ู…ุณุชูˆุงู‡
00:51
and the teacher said to him, he said, "You know,
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ู‚ุงู„ ู„ู‡ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…: ู‚ุงู„:" ุฃุชุนู„ู…
00:54
John is good at math and art."
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ุฌูˆู† ู…ุชููˆู‚ ููŠ ุงู„ุฑูŠุงุถูŠุงุช ูˆุงู„ูู†ูˆู†."
00:56
And he kind of nodded, you know?
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ู‚ุงู… ุฃุจูŠ ุจู‡ุฒ ุฑุฃุณู‡ุŒ ุชุนู…ู„ูˆู†ุŸ
00:58
The next day I saw him talking to a customer at our
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ููŠ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ ุฑุฃูŠุชู‡ ูŠุชุญุฏุซ ู„ุฃุญุฏ ุฒุจุงุฆู†ู†ุง ููŠ ู…ุชุฌุฑ
01:01
tofu store, and he said, "You know, John's good at math."
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ุงู„ุตูˆูŠุงุŒ ูˆู‚ุงู„ ู„ู‡ :" ุฌูˆู† ู…ุชููˆู‚ ููŠ ุงู„ุฑูŠุงุถูŠุงุช."
01:04
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
01:08
And that always stuck with me all my life.
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ู„ุงุฒู…ู†ูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุทูˆุงู„ ุญูŠุงุชูŠ
01:10
Why didn't Dad say art? Why wasn't it okay?
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ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠู‚ู„ ุฃุจูŠ "ูู†ูˆู†" ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู…ุฑุงู‹ ุฌูŠุฏุงู‹
01:13
Why? It became a question my entire life, and
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ู„ู…ุงุฐุงุŸ ุฃุตุจุญ ุฐู„ูƒ ุณุคุงู„ุงู‹ ุทูˆุงู„ ุญูŠุงุชูŠุŒ
01:16
that's all right, because being good at math meant
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ู„ุง ุจุฃุณ ุจุฐู„ูƒุŒ ู„ุฃู† ูƒูˆู†ูŠ ู…ุชููˆู‚ุงู‹ ุจุงู„ุฑูŠุงุถูŠุงุช
01:19
he bought me a computer, and some of you remember
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ุฌุนู„ ุฃุจูŠ ูŠุดุชุฑูŠ ู„ูŠ ุญุงุณูˆุจุงู‹ุŒ ูˆูŠุฐูƒุฑ ุจุนุถูƒู…
01:23
this computer, this was my first computer.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ุฃูˆู„ ุญุงุณูˆุจ ุฃุญุตู„ ุนู„ูŠู‡
01:25
Who had an Apple II? Apple II users, very cool. (Applause)
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ู…ู† ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ุขุจู„ 2ุŒ ู…ุณุชุฎุฏู…ูŠ ุขุจู„ 2ุŒ ุฑุงุฆุน ุฌุฏุงู‹
01:29
As you remember, the Apple II did nothing at all. (Laughter)
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุฐูƒุฑูˆู†ุŒ ุขุจู„ 2 ูƒุงู† ุนุฏูŠู… ุงู„ู†ูุน
01:32
You'd plug it in, you'd type in it and green text would come out.
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ุชูˆุตู„ูˆู†ู‡ุŒ ุซู… ุชู‚ูˆู…ูˆู† ุจุงู„ุทุจุงุนุฉุŒ ุชุธู‡ุฑ ู„ูƒู… ูƒุชุงุจุฉ ุจุงู„ู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุฎุถุฑ
01:34
It would say you're wrong most of the time.
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ุบุงู„ุจุงู‹ ู…ุง ุชู†ุต ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู†ูƒ ู…ุฎุทุฆ
01:36
That was the computer we knew.
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ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุนุฑูู†ุงู‡
01:37
That computer is a computer that I learned about
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ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฏุฑุณุชู‡
01:40
going to MIT, my father's dream. And at MIT, however,
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ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุงุฑุชูŠุงุฏูŠ ู„ู…ุนู‡ุฏ ู…ุงุณุชูŠุชูŠูˆุชุด ู„ู„ุชูƒู†ู„ูˆุฌูŠุงุŒ ุญู„ู… ุฃุจูŠ. ูˆููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุนู‡ุฏ
01:45
I learned about the computer at all levels,
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ุฏุฑุณุช ุงู„ุญูˆุงุณูŠุจ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒุงูุฉ ุงู„ู…ุณุชูˆูŠุงุช
01:48
and after, I went to art school to get away from computers,
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ูˆุจุนุฏู‡ุงุŒ ุฐู‡ุจุช ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงู„ูู†ูˆู† ู„ุฃุจุชุนุฏ ุนู† ุงู„ุญูˆุงุณูŠุจ
01:52
and I began to think about the computer as more of
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ูˆุจุฏุฃุช ุฃููƒุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ ุจุฃู†ู‡ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุดุจู‡
01:54
a spiritual space of thinking.
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ุจู…ุณุงุญุฉ ุฑูˆุญุงู†ูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ
01:56
And I was influenced by performance art --
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ูˆุชุฃุซุฑุช ุจุฃุฏุงุก ูู†ูŠ
01:59
so this is 20 years ago. I made a computer out of people.
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ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ู†ุฐ 20 ุณู†ุฉ. ุตู†ุนุช ุญุงุณูˆุจุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงู„ุจุดุฑ
02:03
It was called the Human Powered Computer Experiment.
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ูƒุงู† ุงุณู…ู‡ุงุŒ ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ ุฐูˆ ุงู„ุทุงู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ
02:06
I have a power manager, mouse driver, memory, etc.,
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ู„ุฏูŠ ู…ู†ุธู… ุทุงู‚ุฉุŒ ูุฃุฑุฉุŒ ุฐุงูƒุฑุฉ .. ุงู„ุฎ
02:10
and I built this in Kyoto, the old capital of Japan.
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ู‚ู…ุช ุจุตู†ุนู‡ ููŠ ูƒูŠูˆุชูˆุŒ ุงู„ุนุงุตู…ุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู…ุฉ ู„ู„ูŠุงุจุงู†
02:14
It's a room broken in two halves.
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุบุฑูุฉ ู…ู‚ุณูˆู…ุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ุตููŠู†
02:16
I've turned the computer on,
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ู‚ู…ุช ุจุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ
02:18
and these assistants are placing a giant floppy disk
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ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู…ุณุงุนุฏุงุช ูŠู‚ู…ู† ุจูˆุถุน ู‚ุฑุต ู…ุบู†ุงุทูŠุณูŠ ุถุฎู…
02:21
built out of cardboard, and it's put into the computer.
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ู…ุตู†ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุฑู‚ ุงู„ู…ู‚ูˆู‰ุŒ ูŠุชู… ูˆุถุนู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ
02:24
And the floppy disk drive person wears it. (Laughter)
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ูˆุงู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู…ุซู„ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุต ุงู„ู…ุบู†ุงุทูŠุณูŠ ูŠุฑุชุฏูŠู‡ุง.
02:28
She finds the first sector on the disk, and
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ุชุจุญุซ ุนู† ุงู„ู‚ุณู… ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุตุŒ
02:31
takes data off the disk and passes it off to, of course, the bus.
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ุซู… ุชุฃุฎุฐ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑุต ูˆุชู‚ูˆู… ุจุชู…ุฑูŠุฑู‡ุง ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุณุงุฑ
02:36
So the bus diligently carries the data into the computer
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ุงู„ู…ุณุงุฑ ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุจูƒู„ ุฌุฏู ุจู†ู‚ู„ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ
02:40
to the memory, to the CPU, the VRAM, etc.,
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฐุงูƒุฑุฉุŒ ุฅู„ู‰ ูˆุญุฏุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุงู„ุฌุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฑูƒุฒูŠุฉุŒ ุงู„ุฐุงูƒุฑุฉ ุงู„ุงูุชุฑุงุถูŠุฉ .... ุงู„ุฎ
02:43
and it's an actual working computer. That's a bus, really. (Laughter)
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุญุงุณูˆุจ ูŠุนู…ู„ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉู‹ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุณุงุฑ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ.
02:48
And it looks kind of fast. That's a mouse driver,
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ูˆูŠุจุฏูˆ ุณุฑูŠุนุงู‹ ู†ูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ุงุŒ ู‡ุฐู‡ ูุฃุฑุฉ
02:51
where it's XY. (Laughter)
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ุญูŠุซ ุชูˆุฌุฏ XY
02:53
It looks like it's happening kind of quickly, but it's actually
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ูŠุจุฏูˆ ูˆูƒุฃู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ูŠุชู… ุจุณุฑุนุฉุŒ ู„ูƒู† ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ
02:54
a very slow computer, and when I realized how slow
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ูƒุงู† ุญุงุณูˆุจุงู‹ ุจุทูŠุฆุงู‹ ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ ูˆุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฃุฏุฑูƒุช ูƒู… ูƒุงู† ุจุทูŠุฆุงู‹
02:57
this computer was compared to how fast a computer is,
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ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ ุจุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุฑู†ุฉ ู…ุน ุงู„ุญูˆุงุณูŠุจ ุงู„ุณุฑูŠุนุฉ ุงู„ุนุงุฏูŠุฉ
03:02
it made me wonder about computers and technology in general.
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ุฌุนู„ู†ูŠ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃุชุณุงุกู„ ุนู† ุงู„ุญูˆุงุณูŠุจ ูˆุงู„ุชูƒู†ู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ุจุดูƒู„ ุนุงู…
03:06
And so I'm going to talk today about four things, really.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุณุฃุชูƒู„ู… ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุนู† ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ
03:08
The first three things are about how I've been curious
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ุงู„ุซู„ุงุซ ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู‡ู… ุญูˆู„ ูƒูŠู ูƒู†ุช ูุถูˆู„ูŠุงู‹
03:12
about technology, design and art, and how they intersect,
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ุจุงู„ุชูƒู†ู„ูˆุฌูŠุงุŒ ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… ูˆุงู„ูู†ูˆู† ุŒ ูˆูƒูŠู ุชุชู‚ุงุทุน ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู„ุงุช
03:16
how they overlap, and also a topic that I've taken on
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ูƒูŠู ุชุชุฏุงุฎู„ุŒ ูˆุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุชุจู†ูŠุชู‡
03:18
since four years ago I became the President
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ู…ู†ุฐ ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุณู†ูˆุงุชุŒ ุฃุตุจุญุช ุฑุฆูŠุณ
03:21
of Rhode Island School of Design: leadership.
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ูƒู„ูŠุฉ ุฌุฒูŠุฑุฉ ุฑูˆุฏ ู„ู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… ูˆุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุฏุฉ
03:24
And I'll talk about how I've looked to combine
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ูˆุณุฃุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุจุญุซูŠ ุนู† ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู„ู„ุฏู…ุฌ
03:27
these four areas into a kind of a synthesis, a kind of experiment.
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ุจูŠู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู„ุงุช ุงู„ุฃุฑุจุนุฉุŒ ูˆุฃุตู†ุน ู…ู†ู‡ู… ู…ุฒูŠุฌุงู‹ุŒ ุฃูˆ ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ
03:32
So starting from technology,
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ุจุฏุกู‹ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง
03:34
technology is a wonderful thing.
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ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ุดูŠุก ุฑุงุฆุน
03:37
When that Apple II came out, it really could do nothing.
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชู… ุฅุตุฏุงุฑ ุขุจู„ 2ุŒ ูƒุงู† ุนุฏูŠู… ุงู„ู†ูุน
03:40
It could show text and
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ูƒุงู† ูŠุธู‡ุฑ ูƒุชุงุจุฉ
03:43
after we waited a bit, we had these things called images.
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฅู†ุชุธุงุฑู†ุง ู„ู…ู‡ู„ุฉ ุฃุตุจุญ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ุตูˆุฑ
03:46
Remember when images were first possible with a computer,
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ุฃุชุฐูƒุฑูˆู† ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชูƒู„ู…ู†ุง ู„ู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ุฅุธู‡ุงุฑ ุตูˆุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ
03:49
those gorgeous, full-color images?
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ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑ ุงู„ู…ู„ูˆู†ุฉ ูุงุฆู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุฌู…ุงู„ุŸ
03:51
And then after a few years, we got CD-quality sound.
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู†ูŠู† ุฃุตุจุญ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุตูˆุช ุจุฌูˆุฏุฉ CD
03:54
It was incredible. You could listen to sound on the computer.
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ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุฑุงุฆุนุงู‹ุŒ ูƒุงู† ุจุฅู…ูƒุงู†ูƒู… ุงู„ุงุณุชู…ุงุน ู„ู„ุตูˆุช ุนุจุฑ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ
03:57
And then movies, via CD-ROM. It was amazing.
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุงู„ุฃูู„ุงู… ุนุจุฑ ุงู„ุณูˆุงู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู„ูŠุฒุฑูŠุฉ. ูƒุงู† ู…ุฏู‡ุดุงู‹
04:01
Remember that excitement?
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ุฃุชุฐูƒุฑูˆู† ูƒู„ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฅุซุงุฑุฉุŸ
04:03
And then the browser appeared. The browser was great,
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุธู‡ุฑ ุงู„ู…ุชุตูุญุŒ ุงู„ู…ุชุตูุญ ูƒุงู† ุนุธูŠู…ุงู‹
04:06
but the browser was very primitive, very narrow bandwidth.
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ู…ุชุตูุญ ูƒุงู† ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุจุฏุงุฆูŠุŒ ุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆูŠุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุนุฑุถู‡ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุญุฏูˆุฏุฉ
04:09
Text first, then images, we waited,
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ุงู„ู†ุต ุฃูˆู„ุงู‹ุŒ ุจุนุฏู‡ุง ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุŒ ุงู†ุชุธุฑู†ุง
04:13
CD-quality sound over the Net,
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ุตูˆุช ุจุฌูˆุฏุฉ CD ุนุจุฑ ุงู„ุงู†ุชุฑู†ุช
04:14
then movies over the Internet. Kind of incredible.
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ุจุนุฏู‡ุง ุฃูู„ุงู… ุนุจุฑ ุงู„ุงู†ุชุฑู†ุช. ุดูŠุก ุนุธูŠู…
04:19
And then the mobile phone occurred,
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ุซู… ุธู‡ุฑุช ุฃุฌู‡ุฒุฉ ุงู„ู‡ูˆุงุชู ุงู„ู…ุญู…ูˆู„ุฉ
04:22
text, images, audio, video. And now we have iPhone,
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ู†ุตุŒ ุตูˆุฑุŒ ุตูˆุชุŒ ููŠุฏูŠูˆุŒ ูˆุงู„ุขู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุขูŠููˆู†
04:27
iPad, Android, with text, video, audio, etc.
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ุขูŠ ุจุงุฏุŒ ุฃู†ุฏุฑูˆูŠุฏุŒ ู…ุน ู†ุตูˆุตุŒ ููŠุฏูŠูˆุŒ ุตูˆุช .... ุงู„ุฎ
04:32
You see this little pattern here?
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ุฃุชุฑูˆู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ู…ุท ู‡ู†ุงุŸ
04:34
We're kind of stuck in a loop, perhaps, and this sense
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ุฑุจู…ุง ู†ุญู† ุนุงู„ู‚ูˆู† ููŠ ุฏุงุฆุฑุฉ ู…ุชูƒุฑุฑุฉุŒ ูˆู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุดุนูˆุฑ
04:37
of possibility from computing is something I've been
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุฅู…ูƒุงู†ูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุญูˆุณุจุฉุŒ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู…ุฑ ุฃู‚ูˆู…
04:40
questioning for the last 10 or so years,
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ุจุทุฑุญ ุงู„ุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ ุญูˆู„ู‡ ู…ู†ุฐ ุญูˆุงู„ูŠ 10 ุณู†ูˆุงุชุŒ
04:42
and have looked to design, as we understand most things,
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ูˆุชุทู„ุนุช ู„ุชุตู…ูŠู…ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ู†ูู‡ู… ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก
04:47
and to understand design with our technology has been a passion of mine.
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ูˆูู‡ู… ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… ุนู† ุทุฑูŠู‚ ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ุดุบู ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ
04:50
And I have a small experiment to give you a quick design lesson.
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ูˆู„ุฏูŠ ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ุตุบูŠุฑุฉ ู„ุฃุนุทูŠูƒู… ุฏุฑุณุงู‹ ููŠ ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู…
04:55
Designers talk about the relationship between form
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ุงู„ู…ุตู…ู…ูˆู† ูŠุชุญุฏุซูˆู† ุนู† ุงู„ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุฅุทุงุฑ
04:58
and content, content and form. Now what does that mean?
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ูˆุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆู‰ุŒ ุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆู‰ ูˆุงู„ุฅุทุงุฑุŒ ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฐู„ูƒุŸ
05:01
Well, content is the word up there: fear.
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆู‰ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ: ุฎูˆู
05:04
It's a four-letter word. It's a kind of a bad feeling word, fear.
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ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ู…ู† ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุฃุญุฑูุŒ ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุฐุงุช ุงู†ุทุจุงุน ุณูŠุฆุŒ ุฎูˆู
05:09
Fear is set in Light Helvetica, so it's not too stressful,
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ุฎูˆูุŒ ู…ูƒุชูˆุจุฉ ุจุฎุท ุงู„ู‡ู„ูุชูŠูƒุงุŒ ู„ูƒูŠ ู„ุง ุชุณุจุจ ุงู„ุดุนูˆุฑ ุจุงู„ุถุบุท
05:13
and if you set it in Ultra Light Helvetica,
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ูˆุฅุฐุง ูƒุชุจุช ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃุฎู ุจุงู„ู‡ู„ูุชูŠูƒุง
05:16
it's like, "Oh, fear, who cares?" Right? (Laughter)
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ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ูƒุฃู† ู†ู‚ูˆู„:" ุขู‡ุŒ ุฎูˆูุŒ ู…ู† ูŠู‡ุชู… ุจุฐู„ูƒุŸ" ุตุญูŠุญุŸ
05:20
You take the same Ultra Light Helvetica and make it big,
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ุชุฃุฎุฐูˆู† ู†ูุณ ุงู„ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุฎููŠู ูˆุชูƒุจุฑูˆู†ู‡
05:23
and like, whoa, that hurts. Fear.
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ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ : ูˆุงูˆุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุคู„ู…. ุฎูˆู
05:25
So you can see how you change the scale, you change
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ุฅุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒู… ุฑุคูŠุฉ ูƒูŠู ุฃู† ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ู‚ูŠุงุณ ูŠุคุฏูŠ
05:27
the form. Content is the same, but you feel differently.
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ุฅุทุงุฑ. ู†ูุณ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู„ู…ุญุชูˆู‰ุŒ ู„ูƒู† ุดุนูˆุฑูƒู… ูŠุฎุชู„ู
05:31
You change the typeface to, like, this typeface,
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ุชุบูŠุฑูˆู† ู†ู…ุท ุงู„ุฎุท ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ู…ุท ุฎุท ูƒู‡ุฐุง
05:33
and it's kind of funny. It's like pirate typeface,
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ุชุจุฏูˆ ู…ุถุญูƒุฉุŒ ุชุจุฏูˆ ูƒู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุฎุท ุฎุงุต ุจู‚ุฑุตุงู†
05:36
like Captain Jack Sparrow typeface. Arr! Fear!
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ูƒู†ู…ุท ุฎุท ูƒุงุจุชู† ุฌุงูƒ ุณุจุงุฑูˆ. ุขุฑุฑุฑ! ุฎูˆู!
05:39
Like, aww, that's not fearful. That's actually funny.
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ุชุดุนุฑูˆู† ุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู„ูŠุณ ู…ุฎูŠูุงู‹ุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุฅู†ู‡ ู…ุถุญูƒ
05:42
Or fear like this, kind of a nightclub typeface. (Laughter)
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ุฃูˆ ุฎูˆู ูƒู‡ุฐุงุŒ ูƒู†ู…ุท ุฎุท ู†ุงุฏูŠ ู„ูŠู„ูŠ
05:46
Like, we gotta go to Fear. (Laughter)
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ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุฐู‡ุจ ุฅู„ู‰ "ุฎูˆู"
05:48
It's, like, amazing, right? (Laughter) (Applause)
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ุฃู…ุฑ ู…ุฏู‡ุด ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒ.ุŸ
05:51
It just changes the same content.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ูŠุชุบูŠุฑ ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆู‰ ู†ูุณู‡
05:54
Or you make it -- The letters are separated apart,
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ุฃูˆ ุชุฌุนู„ูˆู†ู‡ุง...ุงู„ุฃุญุฑู ู…ุชุจุงุนุฏุฉ ุนู† ุจุนุถู‡ุง
05:56
they're huddled together like on the deck of the Titanic,
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ุชุชุนุงู†ู‚ ู…ุน ุจุนุถู‡ุง ูƒุฃู†ู‡ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุญุงูุฉ ุงู„ุชุงูŠุชุงู†ูƒ
05:58
and you feel sorry for the letters, like, I feel the fear.
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ูˆุชุดุนุฑูˆู† ุจุงู„ุฃุณู ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃุญุฑูุŒ ุฃุดุนุฑ ุจุงู„ุฎูˆู
06:01
You feel for them.
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ุชุญุณูˆู† ุจุงู„ุฃุญุฑู
06:03
Or you change the typeface to something like this.
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ุฃูˆ ุชุบูŠุฑูˆู† ู†ู…ุท ุงู„ุฎุท ุฅู„ู‰ ุดูŠุก ูƒู‡ุฐุง
06:05
It's very classy. It's like that expensive restaurant, Fear.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุฑุงู‚ู ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ ูŠุจุฏูˆ ูƒู…ุทุนู… ู…ุชุฑูุŒ ุฎูˆู
06:09
I can never get in there. (Laughter)
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ู„ุงูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุงู„ุฏุฎูˆู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃุจุฏุงู‹
06:11
It's just amazing, Fear. But that's form, content.
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ุฃู…ุฑ ู…ุฏู‡ุด. ุฎูˆู. ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุฅุทุงุฑุŒ ุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆู‰
06:17
If you just change one letter in that content,
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ุฅุฐุง ู‚ู…ุชู… ุจุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุญุฑู ูˆุงุญุฏ ูู‚ุท ููŠ ุฐุงูƒ ุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆู‰
06:20
you get a much better word, much better content: free.
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ุชุญุตู„ูˆู† ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุฃูุถู„ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑุŒ ู…ุญุชูˆู‰ ุฃูุถู„ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑุŒ ุญุฑูŠุฉ
06:24
"Free" is a great word. You can serve it almost any way.
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"ุญุฑูŠุฉ" ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุนุธูŠู…ุฉ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒู… ุชูˆุธูŠูู‡ุง ุชู‚ุฑูŠุจุงู‹ ุจุฃูŠ ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ
06:28
Free bold feels like Mandela free.
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ุญุฑ ุจุงู„ุฎุท ุงู„ุนุฑูŠุถ ุชุจุฏูˆ ูˆูƒุฃู†ู‡ุง ุญุฑูŠุฉ ู…ุงู†ุฏูŠู„ุง
06:31
It's like, yes, I can be free.
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ุชุฌุนู„ูƒ ุชู‚ูˆู„: ู†ุนู…ุŒ ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุฃู† ุฃูƒูˆู† ุญุฑุงู‹
06:33
Free even light feels kind of like, ah, I can breathe in free.
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ุญุฑ ุจุงู„ุฎุท ุงู„ุฑููŠุน ุชุฌุนู„ูƒ ุชู‚ูˆู„: ุขู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุงู„ุชู†ูุณ ุจุญุฑูŠุฉ
06:37
It feels great. Or even free spread out,
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ุดุนูˆุฑ ุฑุงุฆุน. ุฃูˆ ุญุชู‰ ุญุฑูŠุฉ ุจุดูƒู„ ู…ูˆุณุน
06:39
it's like, ah, I can breathe in free, so easily.
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ุชุฌุนู„ูƒ ุชู‚ูˆู„: ุขู‡ ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู„ุชู†ูุณ ุจุญุฑูŠุฉ ุจูƒู„ ุณู‡ูˆู„ุฉ
06:43
And I can add in a blue gradient and a dove,
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฅุถุงูุฉ ุชุฏุฑุฌ ุฃุฒุฑู‚ุŒ ูˆุญู…ุงู…ุฉ
06:46
and I have, like, Don Draper free. (Laughter)
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠ ุญุฑูŠุฉ ุฏูˆู† ุฏุฑูŠุจุฑ
06:48
So you see that -- form, content, design, it works that way.
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ุฃุชุฑูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… ุนู„ู‰ ุฃุณุงุณ ุงู„ุฅุทุงุฑ ูˆุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆู‰ ูŠุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ
06:52
It's a powerful thing. It's like magic, almost,
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุฃู…ุฑ ู‚ูˆูŠ. ุฃู†ู‡ ูƒุงู„ุณุญุฑุŒ ุชู‚ุฑูŠุจุงู‹
06:54
like the magicians we've seen at TED. It's magic.
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ูƒุงู„ุณุญุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ุดุงู‡ุฏู†ุงู‡ู… ููŠ TED. ุฅู†ู‡ ุณุญุฑ
06:58
Design does that.
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ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ
07:01
And I've been curious about how design and technology intersect,
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ุชุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ูู† ู…ุน ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ู…ุญุท ูุถูˆู„ูŠ
07:04
and I'm going to show you some old work I never really
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ุณูˆู ุฃุทู„ุนูƒู… ุนู„ู‰ ุนู…ู„ ู‚ุฏูŠู… ู„ูŠุŒ ู„ู… ุฃุนุฏ ุฃุธู‡ุฑู‡
07:05
show anymore, to give you a sense of what I used to do.
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ู„ุฅุทู„ุนูƒู… ุนู† ู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡
07:09
So -- yeah.
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ุฅุฐุง - ู†ุนู…
07:11
So I made a lot of work in the '90s.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ุฌุฒุช ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุชุณุนูŠู†ุงุช
07:14
This was a square that responds to sound.
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ู‡ุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู…ุฑุจุนุงู‹ ูŠุชุฃุซุฑ ุจุงู„ุตูˆุช
07:18
People ask me why I made that. It's not clear. (Laughter)
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ูŠุณุฃู„ู†ูŠ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุตู†ุนุชู‡ุŒ ู„ูŠุณ ู„ุฏูŠ ููƒุฑุฉ.
07:21
But I thought it'd be neat for the square
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ู„ูƒู†ูŠ ุงุนุชู‚ุฏุช ุฃู†ู‡ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠู„ ู„ู„ู…ุฑุจุน
07:27
to respond to me, and my kids were small then,
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ุฃู† ูŠุณุชุฌูŠุจ ู„ูŠุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ุฃุทูุงู„ูŠ ุตุบุงุฑุงู‹ ุญูŠู†ู‡ุง
07:32
and my kids would play with these things, like, "Aaah,"
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ูƒุงู†ูˆ ูŠู„ุนุจูˆู† ุจู‡ุง ูˆูŠุตุฑุฎูˆู† ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง
07:35
you know, they would say, "Daddy, aaah, aaah." You know, like that.
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ูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู†: " ุฃุจูŠ ุขุขุขู‡ุŒ ุขุขุขุขุขู‡ " ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†
07:37
We'd go to a computer store, and they'd do the same thing.
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ูƒู†ุง ู†ุฐู‡ุจ ู„ู…ุชุฌุฑ ุญูˆุงุณูŠุจ ูˆูƒุงู†ูˆ ูŠู‚ูˆู…ูˆู† ุจู†ูุณ ุงู„ุดูŠุก
07:40
And they'd say, "Daddy, why doesn't the computer respond to sound?"
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ูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู†: "ุฃุจูŠุŒ ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู„ุง ูŠุณุชุฌูŠุจ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ ู„ู„ุตูˆุชุŸ
07:43
And it was really at the time I was wondering why doesn't the computer respond to sound?
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ูˆูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุชุณุงุกู„ ููŠู‡ ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู„ุง ูŠุณุชุฌูŠุจ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ ู„ู„ุตูˆุช
07:47
So I made this as a kind of an experiment at the time.
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ู„ุฐุง ู‚ู…ุช ุจุฐู„ูƒ ูƒู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ุญูŠู†ู‡ุง
07:50
And then I spent a lot of time in the space of
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ูˆุจุนุฏู‡ุง ุฃู…ุถูŠุช ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ููŠ ู…ุฌุงู„
07:53
interactive graphics and things like this, and I stopped doing it because
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ุงู„ุชุตุงู…ูŠู… ุงู„ุชูุงุนู„ูŠุฉ ูˆุฃู…ูˆุฑ ูƒู‡ุฐู‡ุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุชูˆู‚ูุช ุนู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุณุจุจ
07:56
my students at MIT got so much better than myself,
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ุฃู† ุทู„ุงุจูŠ ููŠ ู…ุนู‡ุฏ ู…ุงุณุชูŠุชูŠูˆุชุด ู„ู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ู‚ุฏ ุจุฑุนูˆุง ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู†ูŠ
07:59
so I had to hang up my mouse.
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ู„ุฐุง ูƒุงู† ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ุชูˆู‚ู
08:00
But in '96, I made my last piece. It was in black and white,
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ููŠ ุณู†ุฉ 1996 ุตู†ุนุช ุขุฎุฑ ุงู†ุฌุงุฒุงุชูŠุŒ ูƒุงู†ุช ุจุงู„ุฃุณูˆุฏ ูˆุงู„ุฃุจูŠุถ
08:04
monochrome, fully monochrome, all in integer mathematics.
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ุฃุญุงุฏูŠุฉ ุงู„ู„ูˆู† ุจุดูƒู„ ูƒุงู…ู„ุŒ ูƒู„ู‡ุง ุจุฃุนุฏุงุฏ ุตุญูŠุญุฉ
08:07
It's called "Tap, Type, Write."
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ุชุฏุนู‰: "ุงู†ู‚ุฑุŒ ุงุทุจุนุŒ ุงูƒุชุจ"
08:09
It's paying a tribute to the wonderful typewriter
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุชุฏูุน ุงู„ุฌุฒูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุขู„ุฉ ุงู„ูƒุงุชุจุฉ ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠู„ุฉ
08:12
that my mother used to type on all the time as a legal secretary.
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุงุณุชุฎุฏู…ุชู‡ุง ุฃู…ูŠ ุทูˆุงู„ ูุชุฑุฉ ุนู…ู„ู‡ุง ูƒุณูƒุฑุชูŠุฑุฉ ู‚ุงู†ูˆู†ูŠุฉ
08:17
It has 10 variations. (Typing noise)
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ููŠู‡ุง ุนุดุฑุฉ ุชุฑุฏุฏุงุช (ุฃุตูˆุงุช ุทุจุงุนุฉ)
08:19
(Typing noise)
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(ุตูˆุช ุทุจุงุนุฉ)
08:21
There's a shift.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุชุญูˆู„
08:25
Ten variations. This is, like, spin the letter around.
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ุนุดุฑุฉ ุชุฑุฏุฏุงุช. ุฅู†ู‡ุŒ ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุจุชุฏูˆูŠุฑ ุงู„ุญุฑู
08:29
(Typing noises)
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(ุตูˆุช ุทุจุงุนุฉ)
08:32
This is, like, a ring of letters. (Typing noises)
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ู‡ุฐุงุŒ ูƒุญู„ู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุฃุญุฑู
08:39
This is 20 years old, so it's kind of a --
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ุนู…ุฑู‡ 20 ุณู†ุฉุŒ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ูˆ ู†ูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ุง
08:42
Let's see, this is โ€”
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ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ุฑู‰
08:44
I love the French film "The Red Balloon."
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ุฃุญุจ ุงู„ููŠู„ู… ุงู„ูุฑู†ุณูŠ " ุงู„ุจุงู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุญู…ุฑ"
08:46
Great movie, right? I love that movie. So,
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ููŠู„ู… ุฑุงุฆุนุŒ ุตุญูŠุญุŸ ุฃุญุจุจุช ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ููŠู„ู…
08:48
this is sort of like a play on that. (Typing noises) (Typewriter bell)
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ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุจุฏูˆ ูƒู…ู‚ุทุน ููŠ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ููŠู„ู…
08:52
It's peaceful, like that. (Laughter)
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ุฅู†ู‡ ู…ุณุงู„ู…ุŒ ูƒู‡ุฐุง
08:56
I'll show this last one. This is about balance, you know.
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ุณุฃุฑูŠูƒู… ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุชูˆุงุฒู†ุŒ ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†
09:00
It's kind of stressful typing out, so if you
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ ู„ู„ุถุบุท
09:02
type on this keyboard, you can, like, balance it out.
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ุงุทุจุน ุนู„ู‰ ู„ูˆุญุฉ ุงู„ู…ูุงุชูŠุญ ู‡ุฐู‡ุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒุŒ ู…ุซู„ุงุŒ ุฌุนู„ู‡ุง ู…ุชูˆุงุฒู†ุฉ.
09:06
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
09:08
If you hit G, life's okay, so I always say,
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ุงุฐุง ุถุฑุจุช ุนู„ู‰ G ุŒ ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุฑุงู… ุŒ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู†ุง ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ุงู‚ูˆู„
09:10
"Hit G, and it's going to be all right.
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ุงุถุฑุจ G ูˆูƒู„ ุดุฆ ุณูŠุตุจุญ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุฑุงู…
09:14
Thank you. (Applause)
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ุดูƒุฑุง ู„ูƒู…. (ุชุตููŠู‚)
09:16
Thank you.
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ุดูƒุฑุง ู„ูƒู…
09:19
So that was 20 years ago, and
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ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ุจู„ 20 ุนุงู…ุง ุŒ ูˆ
09:22
I was always on the periphery of art.
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ูˆูƒู†ุช ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ููŠ ู…ุญูŠุท ุงู„ูู†
09:27
By being President of RISD I've gone deep into art,
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุงุตุจุญุช ุฑุฆูŠุณ ู„ูƒู„ูŠุฉ RISD ู„ู‚ุฏ ุชุนู…ู‚ุช ุงูƒุซุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ูู† ุŒ
09:29
and art is a wonderful thing, fine art, pure art.
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ูˆ ุงู„ูู† ู‡ูˆ ุดุฆ ุฑุงุฆุน ุŒ ุงู„ูู†ูˆู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠู„ู‡ ุŒ ุงู„ูู† ุงู„ุฎุงู„ุต
09:33
You know, when people say, "I don't get art.
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ู‡ู„ ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŒ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุŒ ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃูู‡ู… ุงู„ูู†
09:36
I don't get it at all." That means art is working, you know?
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ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃูู‡ู…ู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฅุทู„ุงู‚ " ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุงู† ุงู„ูู† ุจุฎูŠุฑ ุŒ ู‡ู„ ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŸ
09:40
It's like, art is supposed to be enigmatic, so when you say,
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ู…ุซู„ุŒ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูุชุฑุถ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุงู„ูู† ุงู„ุบุงู…ุถุŒ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชู‚ูˆู„ุŒ
09:42
like, "I don't get it," like, oh, that's great. (Laughter)
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ู…ุซู„ ุŒ "ุงู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃูู‡ู…ู‡" ุŒ ู…ุซู„ ุŒ ุงูˆู‡ ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุฑุงุฆุน (ุถุญูƒ)
09:45
Art does that, because art is about asking questions,
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ุงู„ูู† ูŠูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุŒ ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ูู† ูŠุชุนู„ู‚ ุจุทุฑุญ ุงู„ุงุณุฆู„ู‡
09:48
questions that may not be answerable.
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ุงู„ุงุณุฆู„ู‡ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‚ุฏ ู„ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ู‡ุง ุงุฌุงุจุงุช
09:50
At RISD, we have this amazing facility called
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ููŠ RISD ุŒ ู†ุญู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ู†ุดุฃู‡ ู…ุฐู‡ู„ู‡ ุงุณู…ู‡ุง
09:52
the Edna Lawrence Nature Lab. It has 80,000 samples
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ู…ุฎุชุจุฑ ุงุฏู†ุง ู„ูˆุฑู†ุณ ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนูŠ . ู„ุฏูŠู‡ 80,000 ุนูŠู†ุงุช
09:56
of animal, bone, mineral, plants.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุญูŠูˆุงู†ุงุช ุŒ ูˆุงู„ุนุธุงู… ุŒ ุงู„ู†ุจุงุชุงุช ูˆุงู„ู…ุนุงุฏู†
10:00
You know, in Rhode Island, if an animal gets hit on the road,
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ู‡ู„ ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŒ ููŠ ุฌุฒูŠุฑุฉ ุฑูˆูˆุฏ ุŒ ู„ูˆ ุชุนุฑุถ ุญูŠูˆุงู† ู„ุญุงุฏุซ ููŠ ุงู„ุดุงุฑุน
10:02
they call us up and we pick it up and stuff it.
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ูŠุชุตู„ูˆู† ุจู†ุง ูˆ ู†ุณุชู„ู…ู‡ ูˆ ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุชุฎุฒูŠู†ู‡.
10:05
And why do we have this facility?
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ูˆ ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู†ุดุฃู‡ ุŸ
10:08
Because at RISD, you have to look at the actual animal,
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ู„ุฃู† ููŠ RISD ุŒ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูุชุฑุถ ุงู† ุชู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ู‰ ุญูŠูˆุงู†ุงุช ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠู‡
10:11
the object, to understand its volume, to perceive it.
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ุงู„ูƒุงุฆู† ุŒ ู„ูู‡ู… ุญุฌู…ู‡ ุŒ ูˆุงุฏุฑุงูƒู‡
10:14
At RISD, you're not allowed to draw from an image.
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ููŠ RISD ุŒ ู„ุง ูŠุณู…ุญ ู„ูƒ ุจุงู„ุฑุณู… ู…ู† ุตูˆุฑู‡.
10:17
And many people ask me, John, couldn't you just
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ูˆุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠุณุฃู„ู†ูŠ ุŒ ุฌูˆู† ุŒ ู‡ู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู…ูƒู†
10:19
digitize all this? Make it all digital? Wouldn't it be better?
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ุฑู‚ู…ู†ุฉ ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุŸ ุงุฌุนู„ู‡ ูƒู„ู‡ ุฑู‚ู…ูŠ ุŸ ุฃู„ู† ูŠุตุจุญ ุงูุถู„ ุŸ
10:23
And I often say, well, there's something good to how things
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ููŠ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุงุญูŠุงู† ุงู‚ูˆู„ ุŒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุดุฆ ุฌูŠุฏ ุญูˆู„ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุงู„ุงุดูŠุงุก
10:26
used to be done. There's something very different about it,
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ู„ูŠุชู… ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ุง. ู‡ู†ุงู„ูƒ ุดุฆ ู…ุฎุชู„ู ุจู‡ุงุŒ
10:29
something we should figure out what is good about
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ุดูŠุก ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ู„ู†ุง ุฃู† ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฌูŠุฏ ุญูˆู„
10:32
how we did it, even in this new era.
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ูƒูŠู ูุนู„ู†ุง ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ูˆุญุชู‰ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนุตุฑ ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏ.
10:35
And I have a good friend, he's a new media artist named
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ู„ุฏูŠ ุตุฏูŠู‚ ุฌูŠุฏุŒ ู‡ูˆ ูู†ุงู† ููŠ ูˆุณุงุฆุท ุงู„ุฅุนู„ุงู… ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ. ุงุณู…ู‡
10:38
Tota Hasegawa. He's based in London, no, actually it's in Tokyo,
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ุชูˆุชุง ู‡ุงุณูŠุฌุงูˆุง. ู‡ูˆ ู…ู‚ูŠู… ููŠ ู„ู†ุฏู† ุŒ ู„ุง ุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู‡ูˆ ูŠู‚ูŠู… ููŠ ุทูˆูƒูŠูˆุŒ
10:41
but when he was based in London, he had a game
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ู„ูƒู† ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูƒุงู† ูŠู‚ูŠู… ููŠ ู„ู†ุฏู† ุŒ ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ู„ุนุจู‡
10:43
with his wife. He would go to antique shops,
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ูƒุงู† ูŠู„ุนุจู‡ุง ู…ุน ุฒูˆุฌุชู‡ . ู‡ูˆ ูŠุฐู‡ุจ ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุญู„ุงุช ุงู„ุงุซุฑูŠู‡ ุŒ
10:47
and the game was as such:
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ูˆ ุงู„ู„ุนุจู‡ ูƒุงู†ุช ุนุจุงุฑู‡ ุนู† :
10:49
When we look at an antique we want,
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ู†ู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชุญูู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู…ู‡ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุฑูŠุฏู‡ุง
10:51
we'll ask the shopkeeper for the story behind the antique,
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ู†ุณุฃู„ ุตุงุญุจ ุงู„ู…ุชุฌุฑ ุนู† ุงู„ู‚ุตุฉ ู…ุง ูˆุฑุงุก ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุชุญูู‡ ุงู„ุงุซุฑูŠู‡
10:54
and if it's a good story, we'll buy it.
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ูˆ ู„ูˆ ูƒุงู†ุช ู‚ุตู‡ ุฌูŠุฏู‡ ุŒ ุณูˆู ู†ุดุชุฑูŠู‡ุง .
10:56
So they'd go to an antique shop, and they'd look at this cup,
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ู„ุฐุง ุณูˆู ูŠุฐู‡ุจูˆู† ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุญู„ุงุช ุงู„ุงุซุฑูŠู‡ ุŒ ูˆุณูˆู ูŠู†ุธุฑูˆู† ุฅู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ูƒุฃุณุŒ
10:58
and they'd say, "Tell us about this cup."
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ูˆ ูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู† ุŒ "ุงุญูƒูŠ ู„ู†ุง ุนู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ูƒุฃุณ"
11:00
And the shopkeeper would say, "It's old." (Laughter)
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ูˆ ุตุงุญุจ ุงู„ู…ุชุฌุฑ ุณูˆู ูŠู‚ูˆู„ุŒ "ู‡ูŠ ู‚ุฏูŠู…ู‡". (ุถุญูƒ)
11:04
"Tell us more." "Oh, it's really old." (Laughter)
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" ุงุฎุจุฑู†ุง ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ุนู†ู‡ ". " ุงูˆู‡ ุŒ ู‡ูŠ ูุนู„ุง ู‚ุฏูŠู…ู‡ ." (ุถุญูƒ)
11:07
And he saw, over and over, the antique's value
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ุฑุฃู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ ุŒ ู…ุฑุงุฑุง ูˆ ู…ุฑุงุฑุง ุŒ ู‚ูŠู…ู‡ ุงู„ุชุญูู‡ ุงู„ุงุซุฑูŠู‡ .
11:10
was all about it being old.
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ูƒุงู† ูƒู„ ุดูŠุก ุนู† ูƒูˆู†ู‡ุง ู‚ุฏูŠู…ุฉ.
11:13
And as a new media artist, he reflected, and said,
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ูˆ ูƒูู†ุงู† ูˆุณุงุฆุท ุงู„ุฅุนู„ุงู… ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ุŒ ูุงุณุชุฌุงุจ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุŒ ูˆ ู‚ุงู„
11:15
you know, I've spent my whole career making new media art.
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ู‡ู„ ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ู‚ุถูŠุช ุญูŠุงุชูŠ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู†ูŠุฉ ูƒู„ู‡ุง ุฃุตู†ุน ูู†ูˆู† ูˆุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุฅุนู„ุงู… ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ.
11:18
People say, "Wow, your art, what is it?" It's new media.
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ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุชู‚ูˆู„ ุŒ " ูˆุงุงุงุงูˆ ุŒ ุงู„ูู† ุงู„ุฎุงุต ุจูƒ ุŒ ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุŸ " ู‡ูˆ ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุงุนู„ุงู… ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ.
11:22
And he realized, it isn't about old or new.
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ูˆู‚ุงู„ ุงู†ู‡ ูŠุฏุฑูƒ ุŒ ู‡ูŠ ู„ุง ุชุชุนู„ู‚ ุจูƒูˆู†ู‡ุง ู‚ุฏูŠู…ู‡ ุงูˆ ุฌุฏูŠุฏู‡.
11:25
It's about something in between.
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ู‡ูŠ ุชุชุนู„ู‚ ุจุดูŠุฆ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู†ุชุตู.
11:27
It isn't about "old," the dirt, "new," the cloud. It's about what is good.
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ูู‡ูŠ ู„ุง ุชุชุนู„ู‚ ุจ " ู‚ุฏูŠู… " ูŠู…ุซู„ู‡ ุงู„ุชุฑุงุจ ูˆ " ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏ " ุชู…ุซู„ู‡ ุงู„ุณุญุจ . ุจู„ ูŠุชุนู„ู‚ ุจู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฌูŠุฏ .
11:32
A combination of the cloud and the dirt is where the action is at.
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ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฌ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุชุฑุงุจ ูˆ ุงู„ุณุญุงุจ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุชู… ููŠู‡ ุงู„ุญุฏุซ .
11:38
You see it in all interesting art today, in all
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ุงู†ุช ุชุฑุงู‡ ููŠ ูƒู„ ุงู„ูู†ูˆู† ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุŒ ููŠ ูƒู„
11:40
interesting businesses today. How we combine
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ุงู„ุงุนู…ุงู„ ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑู‡ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ุงู„ูŠูˆู… . ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฌู…ุน
11:42
those two together to make good is very interesting.
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ู‡ุฐูŠู† ู…ุนุง ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุตู†ุน ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฌูŠุฏ ูˆ ู…ุซูŠุฑ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู….
11:46
So art makes questions, and
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ูู† ูŠุตู†ุน ุงู„ุงุณุฆู„ู‡ ุŒ ูˆ
11:49
leadership is something that is asking a lot of questions.
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ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุฏุฉ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุทุฑุญ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ.
11:54
We aren't functioning so easily anymore.
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ู†ุญู† ู„ุง ู†ุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณู‡ูˆู„ุฉ ุจุนุฏ ุงู„ุขู†.
11:56
We aren't a simple authoritarian regime anymore.
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ู†ุญู† ู„ู… ู†ุนุฏ ู†ุธุงู… ุงุณุชุจุฏุงุฏูŠ ุจุณูŠุท.
11:59
As an example of authoritarianism, I was in Russia one time
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ุงู…ุซู„ู‡ ู„ู„ุชุณู„ุท ุŒ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ููŠ ุฑูˆุณูŠุง ุฐุงุช ู…ุฑู‡
12:02
traveling in St. Petersburg, at a national monument,
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ุฃุชุฌูˆู„ ููŠ ุณุงู†ุช ุจุทุฑุณุจุฑุบุŒ ุนู†ุฏ ู†ุตุจ ุชุฐูƒุงุฑูŠ ูˆุทู†ูŠุŒ
12:04
and I saw this sign that says, "Do Not Walk On The Grass,"
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ูˆ ุฑุฃูŠุช ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนู„ุงู…ู‡ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู‚ูˆู„ ุŒ "ู„ุง ุชู…ุดูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนุดุจ " ุŒ
12:08
and I thought, oh, I mean, I speak English,
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ูˆ ุงู†ุง ุงุนุชู‚ุฏุช ุŒ ุงูˆู‡ ุŒ ุงู†ุง ุงู„ู…ู‚ุตูˆุฏ ุŒ ุงู†ุง ุงุชูƒู„ู… ุงู„ุงู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉุŒ
12:09
and you're trying to single me out. That's not fair.
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ูˆุงู†ุช ุชุญุงูˆู„ ุงู† ุชุฎุตู†ูŠ ุจุงู„ุฑุณุงู„ุฉ. ู‡ุฐุง ู„ูŠุณ ุนุฏู„ุง.
12:12
But I found a sign for Russian-speaking people,
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ู„ูƒู†ูŠ ูˆุฌุฏุช ุนู„ุงู…ุฉ ู„ู„ุงุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ู†ุงุทู‚ูŠู† ุจุงู„ุฑูˆุณูŠุฉุŒ
12:15
and it was the best sign ever to say no.
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ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ุงูุถู„ ุนู„ุงู…ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงุทู„ุงู‚ ู„ู‚ูˆู„ ู„ุง.
12:18
It was like, "No swimming, no hiking, no anything."
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ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุซู„ ุŒ ู„ุง ู„ู„ุณุจุงุญู‡ ุŒ ู„ุง ู„ู„ู…ุดูŠ ู„ู…ุณุงูุงุช ุทูˆูŠู„ู‡ ุŒ ู„ุง ุงูŠ ุดูŠ .
12:21
My favorite ones are "no plants." Why would you bring a plant to a national monument? I'm not sure.
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ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ู…ูุถู„ู‡ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ "ู„ุง ู„ู„ู†ุจุงุชุงุช". ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุนู„ูŠูƒ ุฃู† ุชุญุถุฑ ุงู„ู†ุจุงุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ุตุจ ุงู„ุชุฐูƒุงุฑูŠ ุงู„ูˆุทู†ูŠุŸ ู„ุณุช ู…ุชุฃูƒุฏุง.
12:26
And also "no love." (Laughter)
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ูˆ ุงูŠุถุง "ู„ุง ู„ู„ุญุจ" . (ุถุญูƒ)
12:29
So that is authoritarianism.
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุงุณุชุจุฏุงุฏ.
12:32
And what is that, structurally?
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ูˆ ู…ุง ู‡ุฐุง ุŸ ู‡ูŠูƒู„ูŠุง ุŸ
12:34
It's a hierarchy. We all know that a hierarchy is how we run
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ุงู„ุชุณู„ุณู„ ุงู„ู‡ุฑู…ูŠ. ูˆู†ุญู† ู†ุนู„ู… ุฌู…ูŠุนุง ุฃู† ุงู„ุชุณู„ุณู„ ุงู„ู‡ุฑู…ูŠ ู‡ูˆ ูƒูŠู ู†ุฏูŠุฑ
12:37
many systems today, but as we know, it's been disrupted.
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ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุงู†ุธู…ุฉ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุŒ ู„ูƒู† ูƒู…ุง ู†ุนู„ู… ุŒ ุงุตุจุญุช ู…ุนุทู„ุฉ.
12:40
It is now a network instead of a perfect tree.
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ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุงู† ุดุจูƒุฉ ุจุฏู„ุง ู…ู† ุดุฌุฑู‡ ุนุธูŠู…ุฉ..
12:44
It's a heterarchy instead of a hierarchy. And that's kind of awkward.
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ุงุตุจุญุช heterarchy ุจุฏู„ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุณู„ุณู„ ุงู„ู‡ุฑู…ูŠ. ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฑุฌ
12:47
And so today, leaders are faced
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ูˆ ู‡ูƒุฐุง ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุŒ ูŠุชูˆุงุฌู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุงุฏุฉ
12:50
with how to lead differently, I believe.
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ู…ุน ูƒูŠู ุชุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุฏุฉ ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ู‡ ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุงุนุชู‚ุฏ.
12:52
This is work I did with my colleague Becky Bermont
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ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ู‚ู…ุช ุจู‡ ู…ุน ุงู„ุฒู…ูŠู„ ุจูŠูƒูŠ ุจูŠุฑู…ูˆุช
12:54
on creative leadership. What can we learn
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ุนู† ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุฏุฉ ุงู„ุฅุจุฏุงุนูŠุฉ . ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุงู† ู†ุชุนู„ู…
12:57
from artists and designers for how to lead?
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ู…ู† ุงู„ูู†ุงู†ูŠู† ูˆุงู„ู…ุตู…ู…ูŠู† ู„ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ู‚ูŠุงุฏุฉุŸ
12:59
Because in many senses, a regular leader loves to avoid mistakes.
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ู„ุฃู† ููŠ ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุญูˆุงุณ ุŒ ู„ุฃู† ู‚ุงุฆุฏ ุงู„ู…ุคุณุณุฉ ูŠุฑุบุจ ุจุชุฌู†ุจ ุงู„ุฃุฎุทุงุก.
13:03
Someone who's creative actually loves to learn from mistakes.
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ุงู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ู…ุจุฏุน ุŒ ูŠุญุจ ูุนู„ุง ุงู† ูŠุชุนู„ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุฎุทุงุก.
13:07
A traditional leader is always wanting to be right,
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ุงู„ู‚ุงุฆุฏ ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠ ูŠุญุจ ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุนู„ู‰ ุตูˆุงุจุŒ
13:10
whereas a creative leader hopes to be right.
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ููŠ ุญูŠู† ุฃู† ุงู„ู‚ุงุฆุฏ ุงู„ู…ุจุฏุน ูŠุฃู…ู„ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุนู„ู‰ ุตูˆุงุจ.
13:15
And this frame is important today, in this complex,
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฅุทุงุฑ ู…ู‡ู… ุฌุฏุง ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุŒ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชุนู‚ูŠุฏุŒ
13:17
ambiguous space, and artists and designers have a lot to teach us, I believe.
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ู…ุณุงุญุฉ ุบุงู…ุถุฉุŒ ูˆุงู„ูู†ุงู†ูŠู† ูˆุงู„ู…ุตู…ู…ูŠู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู„ูŠุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุงุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ.
13:22
And I had a show in London recently where my friends
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ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠ ุนุฑุถ ููŠ ู„ู†ุฏู† ู…ุคุฎุฑุง ุญูŠุซ ุงุตุฏู‚ุงุฆูŠ
13:26
invited me to come to London for four days
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ู‚ุฏู…ูˆ ู„ูŠ ุฏุนูˆู‡ ู„ู„ู…ุฌูŠุฆ ุงู„ู‰ ู„ู†ุฏู† ู„ู…ุฏุฉ ุงุฑุจุนู‡ ุงูŠุงู…
13:28
to sit in a sandbox, and I said great.
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฌู„ูˆุณ ููŠ ุตู†ุฏูˆู‚ ุงู„ุฑู…ุงู„ุŒ ูู‚ู„ุช: ุนุธูŠู….
13:30
And so I sat in a sandbox for four days straight,
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ูˆ ุฌู„ุณุช ููŠ ุตู†ุฏูˆู‚ ุงู„ุฑู…ุงู„ ู„ู…ุฏุฉ ุงุฑุจุนุฉ ุงูŠุงู… ู…ุชูˆุงุตู„ู‡ ุŒ
13:33
six hours every day, six-minute appointments with anyone in London,
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ุณุช ุณุงุนุงุช ูŠูˆู…ูŠุงุŒ ุณุช ุฏู‚ุงุฆู‚ ู…ูˆุงุนูŠุฏ ู…ุน ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต ููŠ ู„ู†ุฏู†ุŒ
13:37
and that was really bad.
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ูˆ ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุณูŠุฆ ุจุงู„ูุนู„ .
13:39
But I would listen to people, hear their issues,
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ู„ูƒู† ูƒู†ุช ุงุณุชู…ุน ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ุงุณุŒ ุงุณุชู…ุน ู„ู‚ุถุงูŠุงู‡ู…ุŒ
13:42
draw in the sand, try to figure things out,
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ูˆุฃุฑุณู… ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฑู…ุงู„ุŒ ููŠ ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ ู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุกุŒ
13:44
and it was kind of hard to figure out what I was doing.
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ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุตุนุจ ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ุฃูุนู„ู‡.
13:47
You know? It's all these one-on-one meetings for like four days.
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ู‡ู„ ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŸ ุงู†ู‡ุง ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ู„ู‚ุงุกุงุช ุดุฎุต ู„ุดุฎุต ู„ุญูˆุงู„ูŠ ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุฃูŠุงู….
13:50
And it felt kind of like being president, actually.
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ูˆ ุดุนุฑุช ู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุง ูˆูƒุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฑุฆูŠุณ . ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน .
13:52
I was like, "Oh, this my job. President. I do a lot of meetings, you know?"
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ูƒู†ุช ู…ุซู„ ุŒ " ุงูˆู‡ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุนู…ู„ูŠ . ุฑุฆูŠุณ . ู„ู‚ุฏ ู‚ู…ุช ุจุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ุงุช ุŒ ู‡ู„ ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŸ
13:55
And by the end of the experience,
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ูˆ ุจู†ู‡ุงูŠุฉ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุชุฌุฑุจู‡ ุŒ
13:56
I realized why I was doing this.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุงุฏุฑูƒุช ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ูƒู†ุช ุงูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ .
13:59
It's because leaders, what we do is we connect
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ู‡ุฐุง ุจุณุจุจ ุงู„ู‚ุงุฏู‡ ุŒ ู…ุง ู†ูุนู„ู‡ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุง ุฑุจุท
14:03
improbable connections and hope something will happen,
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ุชูˆุงุตู„ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุญุชู…ู„ ูˆู†ุฃู…ู„ ุงู† ุดูŠุฆุง ู…ุง ุณูŠุญุฏุซ
14:08
and in that room I found so many connections
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ููŠ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุบุฑูุฉ ูˆุฌุฏุช ุงุชุตุงู„ุงุช ูƒุซูŠุฑุฉ
14:09
between people across all of London, and so leadership,
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ุจูŠู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู†ุญุงุก ู„ู†ุฏู† ุŒ ูˆูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุฏุฉุŒ
14:14
connecting people, is the great question today.
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ุฑุจุท ุงู„ุงุดุฎุงุต ุŒ ู‡ูˆ ุงูƒุจุฑ ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… .
14:16
Whether you're in the hierarchy or the heterarchy,
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ุณูˆุงุก ูƒู†ุช ููŠ ุงู„ุชุณู„ุณู„ ุงู„ู‡ุฑู…ูŠ ุฃูˆ heterarchy ุŒ
14:19
it's a wonderful design challenge.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุชุญุฏูŠ ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… ุงู„ุฑุงุฆุน .
14:21
And one thing I've been doing is doing some research
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ูˆุดูŠุก ูˆุงุญุฏ ู‚ู…ุช ุจู‡ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุจุนุถ ุงู„ุจุญูˆุซ
14:25
on systems that can combine technology and leadership
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ููŠ ุงู„ู†ุธุงู… ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชุฌู…ุน ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ูˆุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุฏุฉ.
14:28
with an art and design perspective.
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ู…ุน ู…ู†ุธูˆุฑ ุงู„ูู† ูˆ ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… .
14:29
Let me show you something I haven't shown anywhere, actually.
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ุฏุนูˆู†ูŠ ุงุฑูŠูƒู… ุดูŠุฆุง ู„ู… ุงุนุฑุถู‡ ููŠ ู…ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ู‡.
14:34
So what this is, is a kind of a sketch, an application sketch
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุณู… ุงู„ุชุฎุทูŠุทูŠ ุŒ ูˆุชุทุจูŠู‚ ู„ู„ุฑุณู… ุงู„ุชุฎุทูŠุทูŠ
14:36
I wrote in Python. You know how there's Photoshop?
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ุจุฑู…ุฌุชู‡ ุจู„ุบุฉ ุจุงูŠุซูˆู† . ุฃู†ุช ุชุนุฑู ูƒูŠู ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ููˆุชูˆุดูˆุจุŸ
14:39
This is called Powershop, and the way it works is
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ูŠุณู…ู‰ PowershopุŒ ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุง
14:43
imagine an organization. You know, the CEO isn't ever
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ุชุฎูŠู„ ู…ุคุณุณุฉ .ู‡ู„ ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŒ ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณ ุงู„ุชู†ููŠุฐูŠ ู„ุดุฑูƒุฉ ู„ูŠุณุช ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฅุทู„ุงู‚
14:46
at the top. The CEO's at the center of the organization.
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ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุนู„ู‰ . ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณ ุงู„ุชู†ููŠุฐูŠ ููŠ ู…ุฑูƒุฒ ุงู„ู…ุคุณุณุฉ.
14:48
There may be different subdivisions in the organization,
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ู‚ุฏ ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุชู‚ุณูŠู…ุงุช ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุคุณุณุฉุŒ
14:50
and you might want to look into different areas. For instance,
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ู‚ุฏ ุชุฑุบุจ ููŠ ุงู„ู†ุธุฑ ููŠ ู…ุฎุชู„ู ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู„ุงุช. ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ุŒ
14:53
green are areas doing well, red are areas doing poorly.
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ุงู„ุฃุฎุถุฑ ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ ุชุนู…ู„ ุจุดูƒู„ ุฌูŠุฏุŒ ูˆุงู„ุฃุญู…ุฑ ู‡ูŠ ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ ุนู…ู„ ุถุนูŠูุฉ.
14:57
You know, how do you, as the leader, scan, connect,
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ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŒ ูƒูŠู ุชูุนู„ ุฃู†ุช ุŒ ูƒู‚ุงุฆุฏ ุŒ ุชุฑู‰ ูˆ ุชุชูˆุงุตู„
14:59
make things happen? So for instance, you might open up
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ูˆ ุชุฌุนู„ ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุชุญุฏุซ ุŸ ู‡ูƒุฐุง ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ ุŒ ู‚ุฏ ุชูุชุญ
15:02
a distribution here and find the different subdivisions in there,
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ุงู„ุชูˆุฒูŠุน ู‡ู†ุง ูˆุงู„ุนุซูˆุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชู‚ุณูŠู…ุงุช ุงู„ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ ู‡ู†ุงูƒุŒ
15:05
and know that you know someone in Eco, over here,
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ูˆู†ุนู„ู… ุฃู†ูƒ ุชุนุฑู ุดุฎุต ููŠ ุงูŠูƒูˆุŒ ู‡ุง ู‡ู†ุงุŒ
15:09
and
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15:11
these people here are in Eco, the people you might
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ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู‡ู†ุง ููŠ ุงูŠูƒูˆ ุŒ ูˆุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุฐูŠู†
15:13
engage with as CEO, people going across the hierarchy.
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ุณูŠุชุนุงู…ู„ูˆู† ู…ุน ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณ ุงู„ุชู†ููŠุฐูŠุŒ ูˆุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุชุณูŠุฑ ุนุจุฑ ุงู„ุชุณู„ุณู„ ุงู„ู‡ุฑู…ูŠ
15:17
And part of the challenge of the CEO is to find
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ูˆุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุชุญุฏูŠ ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณ ุงู„ุชู†ููŠุฐูŠ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุนุซูˆุฑ ุนู„ู‰
15:20
connections across areas, and so you might look in R&D,
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ุงุชุตุงู„ุงุช ุนุจุฑ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ุŒ ูˆู‡ูƒุฐุง ู‚ุฏ ุชุจุฏูˆ ููŠ ุงู„ุจุญุซ ูˆุงู„ุชุทูˆูŠุฑ
15:23
and here you see one person who crosses the two areas
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ูˆู‡ู†ุง ุชุฑู‰ ุดุฎุต ูˆุงุญุฏ ูŠุนุจุฑ ุงู„ู…ู†ุทู‚ุชูŠู†
15:26
of interest, and it's a person important to engage.
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ู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ุŒ ูˆ ู‡ูˆ ุดุฎุต ู…ู‡ู… ู…ุดุงุฑูƒุชู‡.
15:30
So you might want to, for instance, get a heads-up display
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ุฏ ุชุฑุบุจ ููŠ ุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ ุŒ ุงู„ุญุตูˆู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุนุฑุถ ู…ุชุงุจุนุฉ ุงู„ุฑุคุณุงุก
15:34
on how you're interacting with them.
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ุนู† ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู„ุชูุงุนู„ ู…ุนู‡ู… .
15:37
How many coffees do you have?
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ูƒู… ู‚ู‡ูˆู‡ ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุŸ
15:38
How often are you calling them, emailing them?
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ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ุบุงู„ุจ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู‡ู… ุŒ ุงูˆ ุจุนุซ ุงู„ุฑุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุงู„ูƒุชุฑูˆู†ูŠู‡ ุงู„ูŠู‡ู… ุŸ
15:42
What is the tenor of their email? How is it working out?
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ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุบุฒู‰ ู…ู† ุจุฑูŠุฏู‡ู… ุงู„ุฅู„ูƒุชุฑูˆู†ูŠุŸ ูƒูŠู ูŠุชู… ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ ุŸ
15:44
Leaders might be able to use these systems to
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ุงู„ู‚ุงุฏู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูุชุฑุถ ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุงู„ู‚ุฏุฑู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุงู†ุธู…ู‡ ู„
15:47
better regulate how they work inside the heterarchy.
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ุชู†ุธูŠู… ุงูุถู„ ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุจุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ heterarchy .
15:50
You can also imagine using technology like from Luminoso,
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ู†ุนู… ุงูŠุถุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุชุฎูŠู„ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ู…ู† ู…ูƒุงู† ู…ุซู„ ู„ูˆู…ูŠู†ูˆุณูˆ ุŒ
15:53
the guys from Cambridge who were looking at deep
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ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ู…ู† ูƒุงู…ุจุฑูŠุฏุฌ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ูŠุจุญุซูˆู† ููŠ ุฃุนู…ุงู‚
15:56
text analysis. What is the tenor of your communications?
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ู…ุญู„ู„ ุงู„ู†ุต. ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุบุฒู‰ ู…ู† ุงุชุตุงู„ุงุชูƒ ุŸ
15:59
So these kind of systems, I believe, are important.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุงู†ูˆุงุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุงู†ุธู…ุฉ ุŒ ุงู†ุง ุงุนุชู‚ุฏ ุงู†ู‡ุง ู…ู‡ู…ุฉ.
16:02
They're targeted social media systems around leaders.
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ุชุณุชู‡ุฏู ู†ุธู… ูˆุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุงุนู„ุงู… ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุฉ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ู‚ุงุฏุฉ.
16:05
And I believe that this kind of perspective will only begin
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ูˆ ุงู†ุง ุงุนุชู‚ุฏ ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูุงู‡ูŠู… ุณูŠุจุฏุฃ
16:09
to grow as more leaders enter the space of art and design,
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ุจุงู„ู†ู…ูˆ ูƒู„ู…ุง ุงุฒุฏุงุฏ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ู‚ุงุฏุฉ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠุฏุฎู„ูˆู† ุงู„ู‰ ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ูู† ูˆ ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… ุŒ
16:14
because art and design lets you think like this,
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ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ูู† ูˆ ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู… ูŠุฌุนู„ูƒ ุชููƒุฑ ู‡ูƒุฐุง ุŒ
16:17
find different systems like this,
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ุงูŠุฌุงุฏ ุงู†ุธู…ู‡ ู…ุฎุชู„ูู‡ ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ุŒ
16:19
and I've just begun thinking like this,
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ูˆ ู„ู‚ุฏ ุจุฏุฃุช ููŠ ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุดูƒู„ ุŒ
16:21
so I'm glad to share that with you.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู†ุง ุณุนูŠุฏ ู„ู…ุดุงุฑูƒุฉ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุนูƒ.
16:23
So in closing, I want to thank all of you
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ููŠ ุงู„ุฎุชุงู… ุŒ ุงุฑูŠุฏ ุงู† ุงุดูƒุฑูƒู… ุฌู…ูŠุนุง
16:26
for your attention. Thanks very much. (Applause)
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ู„ุฃู†ุชุจุงู‡ูƒู… . ุดูƒุฑุง ุฌุฒูŠู„ุง . (ุชุตููŠู‚)
16:30
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ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน

ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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