John Maeda: How art, technology and design inform creative leaders

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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๋ฒˆ์—ญ: K Bang ๊ฒ€ํ† : Will Han
00:15
I have to say that I'm very glad to be here.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:17
I understand we have over 80 countries here,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์˜ค์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์˜ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด 80๊ฐœ๊ตญ ์ด์ƒ์ด๋ผ๋‹ˆ
00:21
so that's a whole new paradigm for me to speak
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚˜๋ผ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ฐ•์—ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ „ํ™˜์ ์ธ
00:23
to all of these countries.
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์…ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:24
In each country, I'm sure you have this thing called
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๋‚˜๋ผ๋งˆ๋‹ค ํ•™๋ถ€๋ชจ-๊ต์‚ฌ ํ˜‘์˜ํšŒ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ
00:26
the parent-teacher conference.
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์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
00:28
Do you know about the parent-teacher conference?
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ํ•™๋ถ€๋ชจ-๊ต์‚ฌ ํ˜‘์˜ํšŒ๋ผ๋Š”๊ฑฐ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
00:30
Not the ones for your kids, but the one you had as a child,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ํ•™์ƒ์ด์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
00:33
where your parents come to school and your teacher
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ํ•™๊ต์— ์˜ค์‹œ๊ณ  ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด
00:36
talks to your parents, and it's a little bit awkward.
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์š”. ์ข€ ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ธด ํ•˜์ฃ .
00:38
Well, I remember in third grade, I had this moment
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์ œ๊ฐ€ 3ํ•™๋…„ ๋•Œ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผํ•˜๋‹ค ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋น„์šฐ๋Š” ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š”
00:41
where my father, who never takes off from work,
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์ œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ป˜์„œ, ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ๋…ธ๋™์ž์˜€์–ด์š”,
00:44
he's a classical blue collar, a working-class immigrant person,
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์ด๋ฏผ์˜จ ๋…ธ๋™์ž ๊ณ„์ธต ๋ง์ด์—์š”, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ป˜์„œ
00:48
going to school to see his son, how he's doing,
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์•„๋“ค์ด ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ์˜ค์‹ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:51
and the teacher said to him, he said, "You know,
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์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌ์…จ์–ด์š”.
00:54
John is good at math and art."
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"์ฃค์ด ์ˆ˜ํ•™๊ณผ ๋ฏธ์ˆ ์„ ์ž˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
00:56
And he kind of nodded, you know?
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋„๋•์ด์…ง์ฃ .
00:58
The next day I saw him talking to a customer at our
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๋‹ค์Œ๋‚ , ์ €ํฌ ๋‘๋ถ€๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์—์„œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์†๋‹˜์—๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ง์”€์„
01:01
tofu store, and he said, "You know, John's good at math."
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๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ "์ฃค์ด ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์ˆ˜ํ•™์„ ์ž˜ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ตฐ์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ์–ด์š”.
01:04
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
01:08
And that always stuck with me all my life.
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๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์–ต์€ ์ œ ์ผ์ƒ๋™์•ˆ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋‚จ์•„ ์žˆ์ง€์š”.
01:10
Why didn't Dad say art? Why wasn't it okay?
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์™œ ๋ฏธ์ˆ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„์…จ์„๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์™œ ์•ˆ๋˜๋Š”๊ฑฐ์ง€?
01:13
Why? It became a question my entire life, and
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์™œ? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ์ผ์ƒ์˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:16
that's all right, because being good at math meant
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๋ญ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”. ์ˆ˜ํ•™์„ ์ž˜ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ
01:19
he bought me a computer, and some of you remember
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์‚ฌ์ฃผ์…จ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ค‘ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„์€ ์ด ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹œ์ฃ ?
01:23
this computer, this was my first computer.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์ œ ์ฒซ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์˜€์–ด์š”.
01:25
Who had an Apple II? Apple II users, very cool. (Applause)
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์• ํ”Œll ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…จ๋˜ ๋ถ„? ์• ํ”Œll ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž๋ผ๋‹ˆ, ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ด์š”. (๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
01:29
As you remember, the Apple II did nothing at all. (Laughter)
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์• ํ”Œll ๋กœ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฑด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”. (์›ƒ์Œ)
01:32
You'd plug it in, you'd type in it and green text would come out.
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์ „๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ผฝ๊ณ  ํƒ€์ดํ•‘์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋…น์ƒ‰ ๊ธ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜์ฃ .
01:34
It would say you're wrong most of the time.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ฃ .
01:36
That was the computer we knew.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์—์š”.
01:37
That computer is a computer that I learned about
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๊ทธ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” MIT์— ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋์–ด์š”.
01:40
going to MIT, my father's dream. And at MIT, however,
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MIT๋ผ... ์ œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๊ฟˆ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ . MIT์—์„œ ์ €๋Š”
01:45
I learned about the computer at all levels,
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์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:48
and after, I went to art school to get away from computers,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์—์„œ ๋ฉ€์–ด์ง€๋ ค๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๋Œ€ํ•™์—˜ ์ง„ํ•™ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:52
and I began to think about the computer as more of
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์ €๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ •์‹ ์  ๊ณต๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ
01:54
a spiritual space of thinking.
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:56
And I was influenced by performance art --
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์ €๋Š” ํ–‰์œ„ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค --
01:59
so this is 20 years ago. I made a computer out of people.
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20๋…„ ์ „ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋„ค์š”. ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋กœ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:03
It was called the Human Powered Computer Experiment.
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"์ธ๋ ฅ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ์‹คํ—˜"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:06
I have a power manager, mouse driver, memory, etc.,
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์ „์› ์žฅ์น˜, ๋งˆ์šฐ์Šค ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ฒ„, ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ™์€๊ฒŒ ๋“ค์–ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
02:10
and I built this in Kyoto, the old capital of Japan.
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์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ์˜› ์ˆ˜๋„์ธ ๊ตํ† ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์ง€์š”.
02:14
It's a room broken in two halves.
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ํฐ ๋ฐฉ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐœ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋ˆ ์ ธ ์žˆ๊ณ 
02:16
I've turned the computer on,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ผญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:18
and these assistants are placing a giant floppy disk
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์ด ๋„์šฐ๋ฏธ๋“ค์ด ๋„ํŒ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ”„๋กœํ”ผ ๋””์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ
02:21
built out of cardboard, and it's put into the computer.
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์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์— ๋„ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
And the floppy disk drive person wears it. (Laughter)
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ํ”„๋กœํ”ผ ๋””์Šคํฌ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ž‘๋™์ž๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ชธ์— ์ž…์–ด์š”. (์›ƒ์Œ)
02:28
She finds the first sector on the disk, and
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ๋””์Šคํฌ์˜ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์„นํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฝ๊ณ 
02:31
takes data off the disk and passes it off to, of course, the bus.
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๋””์Šคํฌ์˜ ์ž๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์ฝ์–ด ๋ฒ„์Šค์— ์ „๋‹ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:36
So the bus diligently carries the data into the computer
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๋ฒ„์Šค๋Š” ์ž๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋‚ด๋ถ€๋กœ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:40
to the memory, to the CPU, the VRAM, etc.,
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๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฆฌ์—๋„, ์ค‘์•Œ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ์žฅ์น˜์—๋„, ๋ธŒ์ด๋žจ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐ์—๋„ ์ ˆ๋‹ฌํ•˜์ฃ .
02:43
and it's an actual working computer. That's a bus, really. (Laughter)
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์ด๊ฑด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์—์š”. ์ €๊ฑด ์ง„์งœ ๋ฒ„์Šค๊ณ ์š”. (์›ƒ์Œ)
02:48
And it looks kind of fast. That's a mouse driver,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋นจ๋ผ๋ณด์ด์ฃ . . ์ €๊ฑด ๋งˆ์šฐ์Šค ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ์—์š”.
02:51
where it's XY. (Laughter)
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—” XY๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ฃ . (์›ƒ์Œ)
02:53
It looks like it's happening kind of quickly, but it's actually
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๊ฝค ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒƒ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ
02:54
a very slow computer, and when I realized how slow
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๋Š๋ฆฐ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์—์š”. ์ด ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์— ๋น„ํ•ด์„œ
02:57
this computer was compared to how fast a computer is,
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์•Œ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋Š๋ฆฐ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋์„ ๋•Œ,
03:02
it made me wonder about computers and technology in general.
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์ €๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์™€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์˜๊ตฌ์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:06
And so I'm going to talk today about four things, really.
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์ €๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜ 4๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:08
The first three things are about how I've been curious
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์ฒซ ์งธ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—์š”.
03:12
about technology, design and art, and how they intersect,
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๊ธฐ์ˆ , ๋””์ž์ธ๊ณผ ์˜ˆ์ˆ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„œ๋กœ ๊ต์ฐจํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€,
03:16
how they overlap, and also a topic that I've taken on
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฒน์ณ์ง€๋ฉฐ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ 4๋…„์ „ ๋กœ๋“œ์•„์ผ๋žœ๋“œ ๋””์ž์ธ ๋Œ€ํ•™์˜
03:18
since four years ago I became the President
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์ด์žฅ์ด ๋œ ์ด ํ›„, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฒœ์ฐฉํ–ˆ๋˜
03:21
of Rhode Island School of Design: leadership.
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์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์ฃ : ๊ทธ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ž€ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‰ฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
And I'll talk about how I've looked to combine
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๋˜ํ•œ, ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ 4๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ถ„์•ผ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉํ•ด์„œ
03:27
these four areas into a kind of a synthesis, a kind of experiment.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ์‹คํ—˜์  ํ†ตํ•ฉ์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:32
So starting from technology,
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๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ• ๊นŒ์š”.
03:34
technology is a wonderful thing.
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๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด๋ž€ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
03:37
When that Apple II came out, it really could do nothing.
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์• ํ”Œll๊ฐ€ ์ถœ์‹œ๋์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฒŒ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:40
It could show text and
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์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ํ…์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
03:43
after we waited a bit, we had these things called images.
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์ž ์‹œ ๋’ค ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฌ์ฃ .
03:46
Remember when images were first possible with a computer,
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์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์กŒ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์„ธ์š”?
03:49
those gorgeous, full-color images?
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๊ทธ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ฒœ์—ฐ์ƒ‰์˜ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
03:51
And then after a few years, we got CD-quality sound.
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๋ช‡ ํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ณ , ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์—์„œ CD ์Œ์งˆ์˜ ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:54
It was incredible. You could listen to sound on the computer.
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๋†€๋ผ์› ์ฃ . ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์—์„œ ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ฃ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ์š”.
03:57
And then movies, via CD-ROM. It was amazing.
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๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—” CD-ROM ์„ ํ†ตํ•œ ์˜ํ™”์˜€์–ด์š”. ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:01
Remember that excitement?
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๊ทธ๋•Œ์˜ ํฅ๋ถ„์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์„ธ์š”?
04:03
And then the browser appeared. The browser was great,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ผ์šฐ์ €๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™”์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ–ˆ์ฃ .
04:06
but the browser was very primitive, very narrow bandwidth.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ๋•Œ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์šฐ์ €๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์›์‹œ์ ์ด๊ณ  ๋Œ€์—ญํญ๋„ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข์•˜์–ด์š”.
04:09
Text first, then images, we waited,
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ํ…์Šคํƒ€๊ฐ€ ์ œ์ผ ๋จผ์ €์˜€๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™”๊ณ ,
04:13
CD-quality sound over the Net,
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๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ธ๋”๋‹ˆ ์ด๋ฒˆ์—” CD์Œ์งˆ์˜ ์Œ์•…์ด ๋„คํŠธ์›์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋‚˜์™”์ฃ .
04:14
then movies over the Internet. Kind of incredible.
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๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—” ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์˜ํ™”๋„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋๊ตฌ์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋†€๋ผ์› ์ฃ .
04:19
And then the mobile phone occurred,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ํ•ธ๋“œํฐ์ด ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:22
text, images, audio, video. And now we have iPhone,
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ํ…์ŠคํŠธ, ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€, ์˜ค๋””์˜ค, ๋น„๋””์˜ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์•„์ดํฐ์ด ๋‚˜์™”๊ณ 
04:27
iPad, Android, with text, video, audio, etc.
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์•„์ดํŒจ๋“œ, ์•ˆ๋“œ๋กœ์ด๋“œ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—” ํ…์ŠคํŠธ์™€ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์˜ค๋””์˜ค๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:32
You see this little pattern here?
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ž‘์€ ํŒจํ„ด์ด ๋ณด์ด์„ธ์š”?
04:34
We're kind of stuck in a loop, perhaps, and this sense
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ฃจํ”„์— ๋น ์ง„๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ƒ๊ธด
04:37
of possibility from computing is something I've been
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ 10์—ฌ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์˜๋ฌธ์„
04:40
questioning for the last 10 or so years,
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๊ฐ€์ ธ์™”๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:42
and have looked to design, as we understand most things,
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์ €๋Š” ๋””์ž์ธ๋„ ๋ˆˆ์—ฌ๊ฒจ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด์„œ
04:47
and to understand design with our technology has been a passion of mine.
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๋””์ž์ธ์„ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €์˜ ์—ด๋ง์ด ๋˜์–ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:50
And I have a small experiment to give you a quick design lesson.
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์ œ๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋””์ž์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งง์€ ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์‹คํ—˜์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:55
Designers talk about the relationship between form
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๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ๋“ค์€ ํ˜•ํƒœ์™€ ๋‚ด์šฉ์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:58
and content, content and form. Now what does that mean?
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ํ˜•ํƒœ์™€ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด๋ผ.. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ญ˜ ๋œปํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
05:01
Well, content is the word up there: fear.
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์ž, ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ์ €๊ธฐ ์œ„์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์—์š”: ๋‘๋ ค์›€.
05:04
It's a four-letter word. It's a kind of a bad feeling word, fear.
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์ด๊ฑด 4์ž์งœ๋ฆฌ ๋‹จ์–ด์ฃ . ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋‹จ์–ด์ฃ , ๋‘๋ ค์›€.
05:09
Fear is set in Light Helvetica, so it's not too stressful,
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๋ผ์ดํŠธ ํ—ฌ๋ฒ ํ‹ฐ์นด์ฒด๋กœ ์“ด ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ฃ .
05:13
and if you set it in Ultra Light Helvetica,
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์ด์ œ, ์šธํŠธ๋ผ ๋ผ์ดํŠธ ํ—ฌ๋ฒ ํ‹ฐ์นด์ฒด๋กœ ์“ฐ๋ฉด,
05:16
it's like, "Oh, fear, who cares?" Right? (Laughter)
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์ด๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜, "๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด๋ผ๊ณ ? ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ”๋ฐ?" ์ •๋„๋กœ ๋ณด์ด์ฃ . (์›ƒ์Œ)
05:20
You take the same Ultra Light Helvetica and make it big,
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์ด์ œ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ์šธํŠธ๋ผ ๋ผ์ดํŠธ ํ—ฌ๋ฒ ํ‹ฐ์นด์ฒด๋กœ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ํฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌ๊ฒŒํ•˜๋ฉด
05:23
and like, whoa, that hurts. Fear.
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์™€์šฐ~ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ข€ ์Ž„์ฃ . ๋‘๋ ค์›€.
05:25
So you can see how you change the scale, you change
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ํฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋ฉด ํ˜•ํƒœ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์ด์‹œ์ฃ .
05:27
the form. Content is the same, but you feel differently.
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๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:31
You change the typeface to, like, this typeface,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ธ€์”จ์ฒด๋„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
05:33
and it's kind of funny. It's like pirate typeface,
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์ฃ ? ํ•ด์ ๋“ค์ด ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ธ€์”จ์ฒด ๊ฐ™์•„์š”,
05:36
like Captain Jack Sparrow typeface. Arr! Fear!
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๋งˆ์น˜ ์žญ ์ŠคํŒจ๋กœ ์„ ์žฅ์ด ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ธ€์”จ์ฒด ๊ฐ™์ฃ . ์•„.. ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฌด์„œ์šด๊ฐ€์š”.
05:39
Like, aww, that's not fearful. That's actually funny.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œ ๋ณด์ด์ง„ ์•Š์•„์š”. ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•˜์ฃ .
05:42
Or fear like this, kind of a nightclub typeface. (Laughter)
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์€์š”? ๋งˆ์น˜ ๋‚˜์ดํŠธ ๊ธ€๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ฃ . (์›ƒ์Œ)
05:46
Like, we gotta go to Fear. (Laughter)
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๋งˆ์น˜ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€์— ๊ผญ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œ ํ•ด์ค˜์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ฃ .(์›ƒ์Œ)
05:48
It's, like, amazing, right? (Laughter) (Applause)
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์ฃ ? (์›ƒ์Œ) (๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
05:51
It just changes the same content.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ๋™์ผํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:54
Or you make it -- The letters are separated apart,
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ํ˜น์€ ๊ฐ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ -- ๊ธ€์ž๋Š” ๋”ฐ๋กœ ๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ๋“ฏ ๋ณด์ด์ฃ .
05:56
they're huddled together like on the deck of the Titanic,
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๊ธ€์ž๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์น˜ ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ์˜ ๊ฐ‘ํŒ์—์„œ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ•œ ๋ฐ ๋ชจ์•„๋ณด์ฃ .
05:58
and you feel sorry for the letters, like, I feel the fear.
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๊ธ€์ž๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ์ธก์€ํ•ด๋ณด์ด๊ธฐ ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•˜์ฃ . ์—๊ณ  ๋‘๋ ต๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌ๋Š”๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ™์ฃ .
06:01
You feel for them.
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๊ฐ€์—ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋Š”๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
06:03
Or you change the typeface to something like this.
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๋˜๋Š” ๊ธ€์ž์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
06:05
It's very classy. It's like that expensive restaurant, Fear.
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๊ฝค๋‚˜ ์„ธ๋ จ๋˜์–ด ๋ณด์ด์ฃ . ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋น„์‹ผ ๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘์— ์˜จ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด๋ผ๋„ค์š”.
06:09
I can never get in there. (Laughter)
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์ €๋Š” ์ €๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐ๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๊ฐ€๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (์›ƒ์Œ)
06:11
It's just amazing, Fear. But that's form, content.
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๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ด์š”. ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด๋ผ.. ์ €๋Ÿฐ๊ฒŒ ํ˜•ํƒœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด์šฉ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด์ฃ .
06:17
If you just change one letter in that content,
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์ €๋Ÿฐ ๋‚ด์šฉ์—์„œ ๊ธ€์ž ํ•˜๋‚˜๋งŒ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋ฉด
06:20
you get a much better word, much better content: free.
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ข‹์€ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์ฃ : ์ž์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
"Free" is a great word. You can serve it almost any way.
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"์ž์œ "๋ž€ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด์—์š”. ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
06:28
Free bold feels like Mandela free.
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์ง„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์“ด '์ž์œ '๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜ ๋งŒ๋ธ๋ผ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋ฐฉ๋œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด์ฃ .
06:31
It's like, yes, I can be free.
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๋์–ด. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ž์œ ๋ฅผ ์–ป์„๊ฑฐ์•ผ ์ด๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ๋“ฏํ•˜์ฃ .
06:33
Free even light feels kind of like, ah, I can breathe in free.
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์ž์œ ๋ž€ ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ์šด ์ž์œ ๋ผ๋„, ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ž์œ ์†์—์„œ ์ˆจ์‰ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด.
06:37
It feels great. Or even free spread out,
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๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด '์ž์œ '๋Š” ํผ์ ธ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ .
06:39
it's like, ah, I can breathe in free, so easily.
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๋งˆ์น˜, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ž์œ ์†์—์„œ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ˆจ์‰ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋“ฏ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:43
And I can add in a blue gradient and a dove,
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ๋‹ค ํ‘ธ๋ฅธ์ƒ‰ ์ƒ‰๋„ ๋„ฃ๊ณ , ๋น„๋‘˜๊ธฐ๋„ ๋„ฃ์–ด๋ณผ๊นŒ์š”.
06:46
and I have, like, Don Draper free. (Laughter)
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๋งˆ์น˜ ๋ˆ ๋“œ๋ž˜ํผ์˜ ์ž์œ ๋กœ์›€ ๊ฐ™์•„ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (์›ƒ์Œ)
06:48
So you see that -- form, content, design, it works that way.
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๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด -- ํ˜•ํƒœ์™€ ๋‚ด์šฉ, ๋””์ž์ธ์€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ž‘์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:52
It's a powerful thing. It's like magic, almost,
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์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—์š”. ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋งˆ์ˆ ๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์ฃ .
06:54
like the magicians we've seen at TED. It's magic.
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๋งˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ? TED์—์„œ ๋ณธ ๋งˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๋งˆ์ˆ ์ด์š”.
06:58
Design does that.
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๋””์ž์ธ์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฑธ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:01
And I've been curious about how design and technology intersect,
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์ €๋Š” ๋””์ž์ธ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ–ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:04
and I'm going to show you some old work I never really
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด์ œ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋‚จ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆด๊ฒŒ์š”.
07:05
show anymore, to give you a sense of what I used to do.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•ด์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜์„œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š”๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:09
So -- yeah.
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๋„ค,
07:11
So I made a lot of work in the '90s.
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์ €๋Š” 90๋…„๋Œ€์— ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:14
This was a square that responds to sound.
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์ด๊ฑด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ฐํ˜•์ด์—์š”.
07:18
People ask me why I made that. It's not clear. (Laughter)
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์™œ ์ €๊ฑธ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌป๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €๋„ ํ™•์‹คํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”. (์›ƒ์Œ)
07:21
But I thought it'd be neat for the square
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์ €๋Š” ์ € ์‚ฌ๊ฐํ˜•์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฒŒ
07:27
to respond to me, and my kids were small then,
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ œ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋•Œ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ
07:32
and my kids would play with these things, like, "Aaah,"
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์ €๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žฅ๋‚œ์„ ์น˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์ฃ . "์•„์•„"
07:35
you know, they would say, "Daddy, aaah, aaah." You know, like that.
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์•„๋น , ์•„์•„.. ์•„์•„" ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ์š”.
07:37
We'd go to a computer store, and they'd do the same thing.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋งค์žฅ์— ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:40
And they'd say, "Daddy, why doesn't the computer respond to sound?"
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜์ฃ . "์•„๋น , ์™œ ์ด ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”?"
07:43
And it was really at the time I was wondering why doesn't the computer respond to sound?
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๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์— ์ €๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋Š” ์™œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„๊นŒ ์˜์•„ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:47
So I made this as a kind of an experiment at the time.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์— ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์‹คํ—˜์  ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋ณธ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
07:50
And then I spent a lot of time in the space of
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๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ƒํ˜ธ ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ์—
07:53
interactive graphics and things like this, and I stopped doing it because
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์Ÿ์•„ ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์ด๋Ÿฐ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ €๋Ÿฐ๊ฑด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋ฐ
07:56
my students at MIT got so much better than myself,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด MIT์˜ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์ €๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
07:59
so I had to hang up my mouse.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์šฐ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ ค ๋†“์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:00
But in '96, I made my last piece. It was in black and white,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ 1996๋…„์— ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๊ฑด ํ‘๋ฐฑ์ธ๋ฐ
08:04
monochrome, fully monochrome, all in integer mathematics.
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์™„์ „ํ•œ ํ‘๋ฐฑ ํ™”๋ฉด์ด์—ˆ์ฃ . ์ „๋ถ€๋‹ค ์ˆ˜ํ•™์˜ ์ˆซ์ž๋กœ ์ฑ„์› ์–ด์š”.
08:07
It's called "Tap, Type, Write."
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๊ทธ๊ฑด "๋‘๋“œ๋ฆผ, ํƒ€์ดํ•‘, ์“ฐ๊ธฐ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:09
It's paying a tribute to the wonderful typewriter
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ฒ•๋ฅ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์†Œ์—์„œ ๋น„์„œ๋กœ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์ œ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€
08:12
that my mother used to type on all the time as a legal secretary.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ํƒ€์ดํ•‘ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํƒ€์ž๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ—Œ์‚ฌ์˜€์–ด์š”.
08:17
It has 10 variations. (Typing noise)
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10๊ฐ€์ง€์˜ ๋ณ€ํ˜•์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (ํƒ€์ดํ•‘ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
08:19
(Typing noise)
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(ํƒ€์ดํ•‘ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
08:21
There's a shift.
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์‹œํ”„ํŠธ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:25
Ten variations. This is, like, spin the letter around.
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10๊ฐ€์ง€์˜ ๋ณ€ํ˜•๊ณผ, ์ด๊ฑด ๊ธ€์ž๋ฅผ ๋น™๋น™ ๋Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ฃ .
08:29
(Typing noises)
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(ํƒ€์ดํ•‘ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
08:32
This is, like, a ring of letters. (Typing noises)
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์ด๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ธ€์ž๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ™์•„ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ ์š”. (ํƒ€์ดํ•‘ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
08:39
This is 20 years old, so it's kind of a --
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20๋…„ ์ „ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์ด์—์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ญ๋ž„๊นŒ --
08:42
Let's see, this is โ€”
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”. ์ด๊ฑด --
08:44
I love the French film "The Red Balloon."
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์ €๋Š” "๋นจ๊ฐ„ ํ’์„ "์ด๋ผ๋Š” ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:46
Great movie, right? I love that movie. So,
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๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์˜ํ™”์—์š”. ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
08:48
this is sort of like a play on that. (Typing noises) (Typewriter bell)
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์ด๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ทธ ์˜ํ™”์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. (ํƒ€์ดํ•‘ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ) (ํƒ€์ž๊ธฐ์˜ ๋ฒจ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
08:52
It's peaceful, like that. (Laughter)
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ํ‰ํ™”์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•˜์ฃ . (์›ƒ์Œ)
08:56
I'll show this last one. This is about balance, you know.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ธ๋ฐ์š”, ์ด๊ฑด ๊ท ํ˜•์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:00
It's kind of stressful typing out, so if you
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ํƒ€์ดํ•‘์„ ํ•˜๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ฃ .
09:02
type on this keyboard, you can, like, balance it out.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์žํŒ์„ ๋‘๋‘˜๊ธฐ๋ฉฐ ์•ˆ์ •์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:06
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
09:08
If you hit G, life's okay, so I always say,
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G ๋ฅผ ์น˜๋ฉด, ์‚ถ์ด ์ข€ ๋‚˜์•„ ๋ณด์ด์ฃ . ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:10
"Hit G, and it's going to be all right.
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"G๋ฅผ ์น˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋“ ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋ผ."
09:14
Thank you. (Applause)
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
09:16
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:19
So that was 20 years ago, and
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์ €๊ฑด 20๋…„ ์ „์ด์—ˆ๊ตฌ์š”,
09:22
I was always on the periphery of art.
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์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์˜ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์ฃผ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:27
By being President of RISD I've gone deep into art,
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์ง€๊ธˆ ํ•™๊ต์˜ ์ด์žฅ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏธ์ˆ ์˜ ์‹ฌ์—ฐ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ„ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
09:29
and art is a wonderful thing, fine art, pure art.
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธ๋ฌธํ•™์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ์ˆ  ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:33
You know, when people say, "I don't get art.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด "๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒ ์–ด.
09:36
I don't get it at all." That means art is working, you know?
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์ „ํ˜€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋‹จ ๋ง์ด์ง€."๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ ๋ง์€ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ด ํ†ตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
09:40
It's like, art is supposed to be enigmatic, so when you say,
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜, ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜๊ป˜๋ผ ๊ฐ™์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
09:42
like, "I don't get it," like, oh, that's great. (Laughter)
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ์ดํ•ด ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒ ์–ด"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ๋ฐ, ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์ด์ฃ . (์›ƒ์Œ)
09:45
Art does that, because art is about asking questions,
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฑฐ์—์š”. ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋˜์ง€๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”.
09:48
questions that may not be answerable.
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๋‹ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
09:50
At RISD, we have this amazing facility called
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•™๊ต์—๋Š”, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” '์—๋“œ๋‚˜ ๋กœ๋ Œ์Šค ์ž์—ฐ ์‹คํ—˜์‹ค'์ด๋ผ๋Š”
09:52
the Edna Lawrence Nature Lab. It has 80,000 samples
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์‹œ์„ค์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๋™๋ฌผ๊ณผ ๋ผˆ, ๊ด‘๋ฌผ, ์‹๋ฌผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑธ
09:56
of animal, bone, mineral, plants.
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8๋งŒ๊ฐœ๋‚˜ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
10:00
You know, in Rhode Island, if an animal gets hit on the road,
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๋กœ๋“œ์•„์ผ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ ๋™๋ฌผ์ด ์ฐจ์— ์น˜๋ฉด,
10:02
they call us up and we pick it up and stuff it.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์ˆ˜์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:05
And why do we have this facility?
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์™œ ์ €๋Ÿฐ ์‹œ์„ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
10:08
Because at RISD, you have to look at the actual animal,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ•™๊ต ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์€ ์ง„์งœ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์ง์ ‘ ๋ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:11
the object, to understand its volume, to perceive it.
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๊ทธ ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์ธ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ ์‹ค๋ฌผ์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:14
At RISD, you're not allowed to draw from an image.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:17
And many people ask me, John, couldn't you just
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌป์ฃ . ์ฃค, ์ด๋Ÿฐ๊ฑฐ ์ „๋ถ€ ๋””์ง€ํƒˆ ์ž๋ฃŒํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜
10:19
digitize all this? Make it all digital? Wouldn't it be better?
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์—†์„๊นŒ? ์ „๋ถ€ ๋‹ค ๋””์ง€ํƒˆ๋กœ. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ซ์ง€ ์•Š์„๊นŒ?
10:23
And I often say, well, there's something good to how things
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๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๋•Œ๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์˜ˆ์ „ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด
10:26
used to be done. There's something very different about it,
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๋” ์ข‹์€ ์ ๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ๊ณผ๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
10:29
something we should figure out what is good about
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ด์š”.
10:32
how we did it, even in this new era.
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๋น„๋ก ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ๋Œ€์—์„œ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค ํ•ด๋„ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
10:35
And I have a good friend, he's a new media artist named
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์ œ๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋‰ด ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ์ธ ํ† ํƒ€ ํ•˜์„ธ๊ฐ€์™€๋ผ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:38
Tota Hasegawa. He's based in London, no, actually it's in Tokyo,
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๋Ÿฐ๋˜์—์„œ ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ํ† ์ฟ„์— ์žˆ๊ตฐ์š”.
10:41
but when he was based in London, he had a game
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๊ทธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋Ÿฐ๋˜์—์„œ ํ™œ๋™ํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ž๊ธฐ ๋ถ€์ธํ•˜๊ณ 
10:43
with his wife. He would go to antique shops,
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๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ๊ณจ๋™ํ’ˆ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€๊ณค ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
10:47
and the game was as such:
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค:
10:49
When we look at an antique we want,
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์ž๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณจ๋™ํ’ˆ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด,
10:51
we'll ask the shopkeeper for the story behind the antique,
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์ ์›์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ๊ณจ๋™ํ’ˆ์˜ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:54
and if it's a good story, we'll buy it.
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๊ทธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋Š”๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:56
So they'd go to an antique shop, and they'd look at this cup,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ณจ๋™ํ’ˆ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ปต์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋ณธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋ณด์ฃ .
10:58
and they'd say, "Tell us about this cup."
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๊ทธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์ด ์ปต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”"
11:00
And the shopkeeper would say, "It's old." (Laughter)
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์ ์›์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‹ตํ•˜๊ณค ํ•˜์ฃ . "๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค" (์›ƒ์Œ)
11:04
"Tell us more." "Oh, it's really old." (Laughter)
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"์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”" "์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด์—์š”" (์›ƒ์Œ)
11:07
And he saw, over and over, the antique's value
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ๊ณจ๋™ํ’ˆ์˜ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€
11:10
was all about it being old.
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๋ชจ๋‘ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ธ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
11:13
And as a new media artist, he reflected, and said,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‰ด ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋Œ์•„๋ณด๋ฉฐ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ
11:15
you know, I've spent my whole career making new media art.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ํ‰์ƒ ๋‰ด ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์•„ํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ข…์‚ฌํ•ด ์™”๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด
11:18
People say, "Wow, your art, what is it?" It's new media.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ "์™€, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ์–ด๋–ค๊ฑฐ์ฃ ?" ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์ฃ .
11:22
And he realized, it isn't about old or new.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€๊ฑด, ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ด ์˜ค๋ž˜๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ˜น์€ ์ƒˆ๋กญ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:25
It's about something in between.
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ž‡๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€ ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
11:27
It isn't about "old," the dirt, "new," the cloud. It's about what is good.
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ๋•Œ๋ฌป์€ "์˜›๊ฒƒ"์ด๋ผ๋“ ๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด "์‹ ๊ธฐ๋ฃจ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ตฌ๋ฆ„"์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์—์š”.
11:32
A combination of the cloud and the dirt is where the action is at.
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'๊ตฌ๋ฆ„'๊ณผ '๋•Œ๋ฌป์€ ๋จผ์ง€'์˜ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉ์ด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์  ํ–‰๋™์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด์—์š”.
11:38
You see it in all interesting art today, in all
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ๋ชจ๋“  ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ํ’ˆ์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
11:40
interesting businesses today. How we combine
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์—” ์ „๋ถ€ ๋‹ค ํฅ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…์ด์ฃ . ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ
11:42
those two together to make good is very interesting.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ฐœ๋…์„ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์ด์—์š”.
11:46
So art makes questions, and
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ์˜๋ฌธ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:49
leadership is something that is asking a lot of questions.
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๋ฆฌ๋”์‰ฝ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ˆ˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋˜์ง€๋Š” ์ผ์ด์ฃ .
11:54
We aren't functioning so easily anymore.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์›€์ง์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:56
We aren't a simple authoritarian regime anymore.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ๊ถŒ์œ„์ฃผ์˜์  ์ •๋ถ€์— ์ง€๋ฐฐ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
11:59
As an example of authoritarianism, I was in Russia one time
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๊ถŒ์œ„์ฃผ์˜์˜ ํ•œ ์˜ˆ๋กœ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์€ ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
12:02
traveling in St. Petersburg, at a national monument,
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์ŒํŽ˜ํ…Œ์Šค๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ตญ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ๋…๋ฌผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
12:04
and I saw this sign that says, "Do Not Walk On The Grass,"
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์ปค๋‹ค๋ž€ ํ‘œ์‹œ๋ฌผ์ด ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์ž”๋””์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹œ์˜ค"
12:08
and I thought, oh, I mean, I speak English,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์—, ์ €๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”,
12:09
and you're trying to single me out. That's not fair.
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์ €๋งŒ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ณต์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜์ฃ .
12:12
But I found a sign for Russian-speaking people,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ๋ฌธ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
12:15
and it was the best sign ever to say no.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ 'ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹œ์˜ค'๋ผ๋Š” ํ‘œ์‹œ ์ค‘์— ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜€์–ด์š”.
12:18
It was like, "No swimming, no hiking, no anything."
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. "์ˆ˜์˜๋„, ๊ฑท์ง€๋„ ๋ง๊ณ  ๋ญ๋“  ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง ๊ฒƒ."
12:21
My favorite ones are "no plants." Why would you bring a plant to a national monument? I'm not sure.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑด "์‹๋ฌผ์€ ์•ˆ๋จ"์ด๋Ÿฐ๊ฑฐ ์˜€์–ด์š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์™œ ์‹๋ฌผ์„ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ๋…๋ฌผ์— ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๊ฒŸ์–ด์š”? ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”.
12:26
And also "no love." (Laughter)
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์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์žˆ๋”๊ตฐ์š”. "์‚ฌ๋ž‘๋„ ์•ˆ๋จ" (์›ƒ์Œ)
12:29
So that is authoritarianism.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฒŒ ๊ถŒ์œ„์ฃผ์˜์—์š”.
12:32
And what is that, structurally?
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๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ญ˜๊นŒ์š”?
12:34
It's a hierarchy. We all know that a hierarchy is how we run
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ณ„๊ธ‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ๊ณ„๊ธ‰์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋ฐฐํ•˜๋Š”์ง€
12:37
many systems today, but as we know, it's been disrupted.
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์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ํ•œ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฑด ์ด์ œ ๋๋‚ฌ์ฃ .
12:40
It is now a network instead of a perfect tree.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋‚˜๋ฌด(๊ณ„์ธต๊ตฌ์กฐ๊ฐ€)๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์˜ ์‹œ๋Œ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:44
It's a heterarchy instead of a hierarchy. And that's kind of awkward.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ณ„๊ธ‰(hierarchy)์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋™์‹œ์ง€๋ฐฐ(heterarchy) ์˜ ์‹œ๋Œ€์—์š”. ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์ด๊ธด ํ•˜์ฃ .
12:47
And so today, leaders are faced
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์ €๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ "์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ
12:50
with how to lead differently, I believe.
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๋ฆฌ๋“œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€"๋ž€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ์ง๋ฉดํ•ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:52
This is work I did with my colleague Becky Bermont
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์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ธ ์ง€๋„์ž์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ €์˜ ๋™๋ฃŒ์ธ ๋ฒกํ‚ค ๋ฒ„๋ชฌํŠธ์™€
12:54
on creative leadership. What can we learn
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…ํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฆฌ๋“œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€
12:57
from artists and designers for how to lead?
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋‚˜ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ๋กœ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
12:59
Because in many senses, a regular leader loves to avoid mistakes.
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๋ณดํ†ต ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ”ผํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:03
Someone who's creative actually loves to learn from mistakes.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋กœ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐฐ์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:07
A traditional leader is always wanting to be right,
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์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ์ง€๋„์ž๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์˜ณ๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์ง€๋งŒ
13:10
whereas a creative leader hopes to be right.
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์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ธ ์ง€๋„์ž๋Š” ์˜ณ๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:15
And this frame is important today, in this complex,
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณต์žกํ•˜๊ณ  ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์‹œ๋Œ€์—, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ธฐ์กฐ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:17
ambiguous space, and artists and designers have a lot to teach us, I believe.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์ €๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€์™€ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฐฐ์šธ์ ์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:22
And I had a show in London recently where my friends
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์–ผ๋งˆ ์ „์— ์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋˜ ๋Ÿฐ๋˜์—์„œ ์ „์‹œํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
13:26
invited me to come to London for four days
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์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ
13:28
to sit in a sandbox, and I said great.
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๋ชจ๋ž˜์ƒ์ž ์•ˆ์— 4์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์œผ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ . ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:30
And so I sat in a sandbox for four days straight,
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์ €๋Š” ๋‚˜ํ˜ ๋™์•ˆ ์ญ‰ ๋ชจ๋ž˜ ์ƒ์ž์•ˆ์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:33
six hours every day, six-minute appointments with anyone in London,
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ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— 6์‹œ๊ฐ„์”ฉ ๋Ÿฐ๋˜์—์„œ ์•„๋ฌด๋‚˜ํ•˜๊ณ  6๋ถ„์”ฉ ๋งŒ๋‚œ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:37
and that was really bad.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ
13:39
But I would listen to people, hear their issues,
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์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ ,
13:42
draw in the sand, try to figure things out,
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๋ชจ๋ž˜์œ„์— ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ, ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋‚ด๋ ค ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
13:44
and it was kind of hard to figure out what I was doing.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋‚ด๊ธฐ๋Š” ์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
13:47
You know? It's all these one-on-one meetings for like four days.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜ 4์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ํ•œ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์”ฉ ๊ณ„์† ๋งŒ๋‚˜ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ถ„๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜€์–ด์š”.
13:50
And it felt kind of like being president, actually.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น์ด ๋œ ๋“ฏํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
13:52
I was like, "Oh, this my job. President. I do a lot of meetings, you know?"
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์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜, "์•„, ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น, ๋‚ด ์ง์—…์ด ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์ง€. ๋งŒ๋‚˜์•ผ ํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งŽ์€๋ฐ?" ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค ์ •๋„์˜€์–ด์š”.
13:55
And by the end of the experience,
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๊ทธ ์ผ์ด ๋๋‚  ๋ฌด๋ ต
13:56
I realized why I was doing this.
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฑธ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:59
It's because leaders, what we do is we connect
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ์ง€๋„์ž๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์—ฐ๊ด€์ด ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„
14:03
improbable connections and hope something will happen,
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์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ ๋Š” ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
14:08
and in that room I found so many connections
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๊ทธ ๋ฐฉ์•ˆ์—์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋Ÿฐ๋˜ ์ „์ฒด์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
14:09
between people across all of London, and so leadership,
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์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๋ฆฌ๋”์‰ฝ์ด๋ผ๋Š”๊ฑด
14:14
connecting people, is the great question today.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ๊ต‰์žฅํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์ฃ .
14:16
Whether you're in the hierarchy or the heterarchy,
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ž์‹ ์ด ์ˆ˜์ง์  ๊ณ„์ธต์— ์†ํ•ด ์žˆ๊ฑด ์ˆ˜ํ‰์  ๊ณ„์ธต์— ์†ํ•ด ์žˆ๊ฑด
14:19
it's a wonderful design challenge.
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๋””์ž์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๋„์ „ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์—์š”.
14:21
And one thing I've been doing is doing some research
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ ์ค‘์— ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๊ณผ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‰ฝ์„
14:25
on systems that can combine technology and leadership
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๊ฒฐํ•ฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ฒด๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:28
with an art and design perspective.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ณผ ๋””์ž์ธ์  ์•ˆ๋ชฉ์ด ๋”ํ•ด์ง„ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์ด์ฃ .
14:29
Let me show you something I haven't shown anywhere, actually.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐ์„œ๋Š” ํ•œ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฑธ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ฃ .
14:34
So what this is, is a kind of a sketch, an application sketch
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์ด๊ฑด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์Šค์ผ€์น˜์ธ๋ฐ์š”. ์Šค์ผ€์น˜ ์•ฑ์ด์ฃ .
14:36
I wrote in Python. You know how there's Photoshop?
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ํŒŒ์ดํ†ค์ด๋ž€ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์ž‘์„ฑํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํฌํ† ์ƒต์ด๋ž€๊ฑฐ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
14:39
This is called Powershop, and the way it works is
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์ด๊ฑด ํŒŒ์›Œ์ƒต์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์€,
14:43
imagine an organization. You know, the CEO isn't ever
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์–ด๋–ค ์กฐ์ง์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. CEO๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฒŒ
14:46
at the top. The CEO's at the center of the organization.
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์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. CEO ๋Š” ์กฐ์ง์˜ ์ค‘์•™์— ์ž๋ฆฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:48
There may be different subdivisions in the organization,
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์กฐ์ง์—๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€์„œ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
14:50
and you might want to look into different areas. For instance,
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์—ญ์„ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ•ด๋ณด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋ณด์ฃ . ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด,
14:53
green are areas doing well, red are areas doing poorly.
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๋…น์ƒ‰์€ ์ผ์„ ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€์„œ๊ณ , ๋นจ๊ฐ„์ƒ‰์€ ์ž˜ ๋ชป ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€์„œ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด๋ณด์ฃ .
14:57
You know, how do you, as the leader, scan, connect,
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์ง€๋„์ž๋กœ์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ„ํŒŒํ•˜๊ณ , ์ด์–ด์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
14:59
make things happen? So for instance, you might open up
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์ผ์ด ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜์ฃ ? ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ๋‹ด๋‹น ๋ถ€์„œ๋ฅผ
15:02
a distribution here and find the different subdivisions in there,
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์—ด์–ด๋ณด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€์„œ๋ฅผ ์—ด์–ด๋ณด์ฃ .
15:05
and know that you know someone in Eco, over here,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , Eco์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋ณด์ฃ .
15:09
and
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด,
15:11
these people here are in Eco, the people you might
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ Eco์— ์†ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๊ณ ,
15:13
engage with as CEO, people going across the hierarchy.
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CEO๋กœ์จ ์„œ๋กœ ๋งž๋ฌผ๋ ค ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์ฃ . ์ˆ˜์ง ๊ณ„์ธต์˜ ์ € ํŽธ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์š”.
15:17
And part of the challenge of the CEO is to find
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CEO ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ํ•  ์ค„ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์ด ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ง€๋‚˜
15:20
connections across areas, and so you might look in R&D,
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์ €์ชฝ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์—ฐ๊ณ„์„ฑ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ, ์—ฐ๊ตฌ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ ๋ถ€์„œ ์ชฝ์„ ๋ณด์ฃ .
15:23
and here you see one person who crosses the two areas
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐœ์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์˜์—ญ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:26
of interest, and it's a person important to engage.
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์ฃ .
15:30
So you might want to, for instance, get a heads-up display
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๊ณ„๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€
15:34
on how you're interacting with them.
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์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‚ฌํ•ญ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์ง€๊ฒ ์ฃ .
15:37
How many coffees do you have?
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์ปคํ”ผ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ์ž”์„ ๋งˆ์‹ค๊นŒ?
15:38
How often are you calling them, emailing them?
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ž์ฃผ ํ†ตํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ๊นŒ?
15:42
What is the tenor of their email? How is it working out?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์“ฐ๋Š” ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์˜ ์š”์ ์€ ๋ญ˜๊นŒ? ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€?
15:44
Leaders might be able to use these systems to
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์ง€๋„์ž๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ„๊ธ‰ ์ฒด๊ณ„์•ˆ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์•ผํ•˜๋Š”์ง€
15:47
better regulate how they work inside the heterarchy.
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์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ฒด๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ ๋Ÿฐ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:50
You can also imagine using technology like from Luminoso,
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๋ฃจ๋ฏธ๋…ธ์†Œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•ญ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ฃ .
15:53
the guys from Cambridge who were looking at deep
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๋ช‡๋ช‡์˜ ์บ ๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์ถœ์‹  ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ๋ฌธ์žฅ ๋ถ„์„์„ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ํ•ด๋‚ธ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:56
text analysis. What is the tenor of your communications?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์†Œํ†ต์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ?
15:59
So these kind of systems, I believe, are important.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ฒด๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:02
They're targeted social media systems around leaders.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ฒด๊ณ„๋Š” ์ง€๋„์ž๋ฅผ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์†Œํ†ต ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:05
And I believe that this kind of perspective will only begin
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์ด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ณผ ๋””์ž์ธ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์ง„์ž…ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ˆ˜๋ก
16:09
to grow as more leaders enter the space of art and design,
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ „๋ง์€ ๋” ์ปค์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:14
because art and design lets you think like this,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ณผ ๋””์ž์ธ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
16:17
find different systems like this,
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋‚ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”.
16:19
and I've just begun thinking like this,
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์ €๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๋ง‰ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:21
so I'm glad to share that with you.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:23
So in closing, I want to thank all of you
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฒฝ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ
16:26
for your attention. Thanks very much. (Applause)
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๋๋งˆ์น˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
16:30
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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