The A to Z English Podcast improves my English? INTERVIEW

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ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚

00:00
Welcome to another edition of Speak English fluently.
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Speak English fluently ใฎๅˆฅใฎใ‚จใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใธใ‚ˆใ†ใ“ใใ€‚
00:03
I'm your host, Steve Hatherly. And today I'm very excited because my guests
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00:09
are fellow podcasters. I think this is the first time I've had the
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ใฏไปฒ้–“ใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใชใฎใงใ€็งใฏใจใฆใ‚‚่ˆˆๅฅฎใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™. ใ“ใ‚“ใช ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ†ๆฉŸไผš
00:13
opportunity to say this. Jack McBain and Kevin Mitchell both come from
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ใฏๅˆใ‚ใฆใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒปใƒžใ‚ฏใƒ™ใ‚คใƒณใจใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใƒปใƒŸใƒƒใƒใ‚งใƒซใฏใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚
00:19
the United States of America. Both majored in communication in university.
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ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซๅˆ่ก†ๅ›ฝๅ‡บ่บซใงใ™ใ€‚ใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚ๅคงๅญฆใงใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ๅฐ‚ๆ”ปใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:24
And both host a podcast called A-Z English Podcast.
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ใพใŸใ€ใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚ AZ English Podcast ใจใ„ใ†ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ใƒ›ใ‚นใƒˆใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:29
They have a shared love of podcasting, as do I.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
00:33
They have lots of experience teaching English at the university level here in Korea.
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00:38
I believe they've been doing it for over 15 plus years.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ15ๅนดไปฅไธŠใซใ‚ใŸใฃใฆใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใฃใฆใใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:43
That's a long time. And I think maybe collectively, we have a
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ใใ‚Œใฏ้•ทใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅ…จไฝ“ใจใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใก
00:46
shared love of dogs as well, at least I do withโ€ฆ with Kevin.
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ใฏ็Šฌใธใฎๆ„›ๆƒ…ใ‚‚ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚็งใฏโ€ฆ ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใจไธ€็ท’ใงใ™ใ€‚
00:51
Let me say hello to my guest today, Jack McBain and Kevin Mitchell.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใ‚ฒใ‚นใƒˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒปใƒžใ‚ฏใƒ™ใ‚คใƒณใจใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใƒปใƒŸใƒƒใƒใ‚งใƒซใซๆŒจๆ‹ถใ•ใ›ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
00:55
Fellas, welcome to the show. Thank you.
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ใƒ•ใ‚งใƒญใƒผใ‚บใ€ใ‚ทใƒงใƒผใธใ‚ˆใ†ใ“ใใ€‚ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:57
Hey, Steve. Yeah, thanks for having us. Absolutely, absolutely.
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ใญใˆใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€็งใŸใกใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚็ตถๅฏพใซใ€็ตถๅฏพใซใ€‚
01:00
Good evening. Good evening to you, Kevin. Has anyone ever
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01:03
told youโ€ฆ you look like Neil Patrick Harris? That I haven't heard.
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่จ€ใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใชใ„ใ“ใจใ€‚
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You've never heard that? That one. No, Iโ€ฆ I do have a lot of Korean
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่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใชใ„๏ผŸใใ‚Œใงใ™ใ€‚ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€็งใฏโ€ฆ ๅคšใใฎ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝไบบ
01:14
students tell me I looked like Benedict Cumberbatch. Oh, interesting.
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ๅญฆ็”ŸใŒใ€ใƒ™ใƒใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ฏใƒˆใƒปใ‚ซใƒณใƒใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒใซไผผใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ€้ข็™ฝใ„ใ€‚
01:20
And I don't agree, but I think I see where they get it because I have a relatively narrow
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็งใฏๅŒๆ„ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็งใฏๆฏ”่ผƒ็š„็‹ญใ„ ้ก” ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใฉใ“ใงใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚‹ใ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ .
01:26
face. Alright, yeah.
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ใ‚ˆใ—ใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚
01:27
And Mr. Cumberbatch does as well. And I think thereโ€™s a lot of just, yeah,
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ใ‚ซใƒณใƒใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒๆฐใ‚‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ ๅค–ๅ›ฝไบบ
01:33
foreigner. Foreigner with somewhat similar face structures.
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ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ้ก”ใฎๆง‹้€ ใŒๅฐ‘ใ—ไผผใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅค–ๅ›ฝไบบใ€‚
01:38
Podcast show idea for you guys, which celebrity do you look like most?
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆ็•ช็ต„ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใฉใฎๆœ‰ๅไบบใซไธ€็•ชไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
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I'm not sure I want to hear the answer to that to be honest.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใชใจใ“ใ‚ใ€ใใฎ็ญ”ใˆใ‚’่žใใŸใ„ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
01:47
There's a reason that we are podcasters and not videoโ€ฆ
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01:50
Yeah, right. Right. Video stars.
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01:51
I will ask you about that in a moments time, but let's talk a little bit about you guys
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ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏๅพŒใงใŠๅฐ‹ใญใ—ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใซ็„ฆ็‚นใ‚’ๅˆใ‚ใ›ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซใ€
01:58
before we turn our focus to your podcast.
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็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—ใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ† .
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Jack, maybe we can start with you and you can tell us a little bit about yourself.
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ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใ‚ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸ่‡ช่บซใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
02:06
Yeah, sure. Iโ€ฆ I actually came to Asia about 20 or so years ago.
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02:14
I started teaching at the university level in Korea in 2006.
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2006 ๅนดใซ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใฎๅคงๅญฆใงๆ•™ใˆๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
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And I've been at the same school for 17 years. So. Yeah, yeah so.
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ๅŒใ˜ๅญฆๆ กใซ 17 ๅนด้–“ๅœจ็ฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ†ใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
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That's a testament to how good a teacher you are, obviously.
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02:30
I think so. Well, either that or they're too lazy to try
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02:35
to find another teacher. Yeah, but yeah, I didn't realize that would
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ๅˆฅใฎๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฎใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€ใงใ‚‚ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œ
02:41
be my forever job. But you know, youโ€ฆ you kind of accidentally
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ใŒ็งใฎๆฐธ้ ใฎไป•ไบ‹ใซใชใ‚‹ใจใฏๆ€ใ„ใ‚‚ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏโ€ฆ
02:46
stumble into these things sometimes in life. That is how it goes.
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ไบบ็”Ÿใงๆ™‚ใ€…ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใซๅถ็„ถๅ‡บใใ‚ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
02:51
Where in Korea are you located? So I'm in Pyeongtech, but I actually teach
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02:58
in Ansong which is the next city over, so not far from where I live.
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ใฏไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ†้ ใใชใ„้šฃใฎ้ƒฝๅธ‚ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฎ‰ๅŸŽใงๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:03
Great to meet you.
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ใŠไผšใ„ใงใใฆใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:04
Kevin. How about you? Uhm, so similar to Jack I think.
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ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใ€‚ๅ›ใฏใฉใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผŸใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใจใฆใ‚‚ไผผใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
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I didn't a plan to be a teacher for forever either.
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03:13
And here I am almostโ€ฆ almost 20 years into being a teacher - total.
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ใใ—ใฆใ“ใ“ใงใ€็งใฏใปใผโ€ฆ ๆ•™ๅธซใซใชใฃใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ใปใผ 20 ๅนดใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
03:18
Not all of it in Korea, but it started when I was a student in university and I just did
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03:22
it as a part time job and I liked it. It was fun.
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03:26
I enjoy teaching. I like being with students.
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็งใฏๆ•™ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚็งใฏๅญฆ็”Ÿใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
03:29
And then I moved to Korea and started working at the university here and...
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ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใซ็งปใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ“ใฎๅคงๅญฆใงๅƒใๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸ...
03:33
Yeah, I've been doing the same thing for almost 20 years total asโ€ฆ as well.
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ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅˆ่จˆใงใปใผ20ๅนด้–“ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™.
03:38
Koreaโ€™s uh, a nice place to live, a nice place toโ€ฆ to teach in some ways.
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้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใฏใ€ไฝใ‚€ใฎใซใ„ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ€ๆ•™ใˆใ‚‹ใฎใซใ„ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™โ€ฆ ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงๆ•™ใˆใ‚‹ใซใฏใ„ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:44
I completely concur.
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็งใฏๅฎŒๅ…จใซๅŒๆ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:46
So the relationship between you two does it go back to America?
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ใŠไบŒไบบใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใฏใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใซใพใงใ•ใ‹ใฎใผใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
03:51
Did you meet here in Korea? Did you teach at the same school?
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ใ“ใ“้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงไผšใฃใŸใฎ๏ผŸๅŒใ˜ๅญฆๆ กใงๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
03:54
We do teach at the same school, so yes. Likeโ€ฆ like a lot of friend friendships that
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็งใŸใกใฏๅŒใ˜ๅญฆๆ กใงๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
04:00
develop, uh, after university, our friendship began because we teach at the same university.
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ๅŒใ˜ๅคงๅญฆใงๆ•™้žญใ‚’ใจใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ€ๅคงๅญฆๅ’ๆฅญๅพŒใซ ๅ‹ไบบ้–ขไฟ‚ใŒ ็ฏ‰ใ‹ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:10
He's at the Seoul campus. I'm out in the Gyenggi-do area outside of Seoul.
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ๅฝผใฏใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ‘ใ‚นใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซ้ƒŠๅค–ใฎไบฌ็•ฟ้“ใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
04:18
But yeah, we haveโ€ฆ we have been friends for a long time now, so yeah.
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ใงใ‚‚ใˆใˆใ€็งใŸใกใฏโ€ฆ ็งใŸใกใฏ้•ทใ„้–“ๅ‹้”ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:23
Yeah, we've been working at the same uni sinceโ€ฆ since I started.
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ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œไปฅๆฅใ€็งใŸใกใฏๅŒใ˜ๅคงๅญฆใงๅƒใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™โ€ฆ็งใŒๅง‹ใ‚ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€‚
04:26
Interesting. Years ago.
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้ข็™ฝใ„ใ€‚ๆ•ฐๅนดๅ‰ใ€‚
04:27
So when did the idea? Let's get into it now. When did the idea for the A to Z English podcast
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ใงใฏใ€ใใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฏใ„ใค็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸไปŠใ™ใๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ A to Z English ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฏใ„ใค
04:36
begin? Was that early on in your friendship something
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ๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ‹?ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ‹ๆƒ…ใฎๆ—ฉใ„ๆฎต้šŽใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ
04:39
that you may be mentioned once or twice, maybe let's do it later?
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ใ“ใจใ‚’ไธ€ๅบฆใ‹ไบŒๅบฆ่จ€ๅŠใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใŸใ‹?
04:43
Or was it one person idea and you decided to start Right away?
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ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ไธ€ไบบใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใงใ€ใ™ใใซๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆฑบใ‚ใŸใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
04:48
Tell us about that. Do you want me to handle this one Kev?
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ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใ“ใฎ 1 ใคใฎ Kev ใ‚’ๅ‡ฆ็†ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
04:52
Field this one? Yeah, I think this should be yours 'cause
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใซใ—ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใˆใˆใ€
04:55
the podcast really was your idea. It was something that I think we were bored
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ ใฃใŸ ใฎใงใ€ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹ในใใ ใจๆ€ใ„ ใพใ™ใ€‚ COVIDไธญ ใซ้€€ๅฑˆใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจๆ€ใ†
05:01
during COVID and then it went from there. So go ahead, but you'veโ€ฆ you've been interested
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ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ใใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰่กŒใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏโ€ฆ
05:05
for a long time in podcasting. Well, right. I mean it, it's kind of like,
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใซ้•ทใ„้–“่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Š
05:10
you know, you want you go to, uh, a blockbuster movie and you say I want to be an actor, I
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ใ€ๅคงใƒ’ใƒƒใƒˆๆ˜ ็”ปใซ่กŒใใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใซใ€ไฟณๅ„ชใซ
05:16
want to make movies, you know something, but. The threshold is too high. It's too difficult
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ใชใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใ€ๆ˜ ็”ปใ‚’ไฝœใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ใ—ใใ„ๅ€คใŒ้ซ˜ใ™ใŽใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ้›ฃใ—ใ™ใŽใ‚‹
05:21
to do that. But when I really got into podcasting, I was
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ใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚’ๆœฌๆ ผ
05:27
like, you know what, it's not that difficult to start a podcast.
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็š„ใซๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉ้›ฃใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
05:31
It's difficult to build a community of listeners, but, but it was something that was just kind
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ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฎใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ๆง‹็ฏ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ้›ฃใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใŒใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
05:39
of eating away at me for a while. And finally, I asked Kevin and another friend
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ใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใใฎ้–“ใ€็งใ‚’้ฃŸใ„็‰ฉใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใŸ.ใใ—ใฆๆœ€ๅพŒใซใ€็งใฏใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใจ
05:45
of ours. I said, you know what, guys? Let's start a podcast. And we actually started a
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็งใŸใกใฎใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ไบบใฎๅ‹ไบบใซๅฐ‹ใญใพใ—ใŸ.็งใฏ่จ€ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€
05:53
podcast called The Seoul Patch.
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The Seoul Patchใจใ„ใ†ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆ
05:55
Which is up on Seoul and we just talked about Korea related topics.
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ใ‚’ๅฎŸ้š›ใซๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซใซใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใ•ใ‚ŒใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝ้–ข้€ฃใฎใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:03
I've heard of that podcast. Oh, really?
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ใใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆ่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใพใ‚ใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ๏ผŸ
06:05
Iโ€ฆ I must admit, I must admit, I apologize. Iโ€ฆ Iโ€ฆ I don't think I've heard an episode,
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็งใฏโ€ฆ่ชใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€่ชใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€็”ณใ—่จณใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚็งใฏโ€ฆ ็งใฏโ€ฆใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒ
06:10
but I know that I've heard of that podcast before.
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ใ€ใใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆ่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™.
06:12
Oh, wow. OK, well, that's inspiring. That's that's awesome.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ™ใ”ใ„ใ€‚ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆบๆฟ€็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใฏใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
06:18
Uh, we what happened was we kind of decided to make a kind of right turn towards something
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ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใŸใกใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ“ใจ ใฏใ€ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใซใจใฃใฆใŠใใ‚‰ใใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—ๅฎŸ็”จ็š„ใช
06:26
that was maybe a little more practical for listeners, which was a Language Learning podcast,
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ใ‚‚ใฎใซๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆไธ€็จฎใฎๅณๆŠ˜ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ—ใŸใ“ใจ
06:34
which combines my love of podcasting and I think Kevin also enjoys it.
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ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใฏใ€็งใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใธใฎๆ„›ใ‚’็ต„ใฟๅˆใ‚ใ›ใŸ่จ€่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:39
And also our experience as English teachers. And so that's what started the A-Z English
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ใพใŸใ€่‹ฑ่ชžๆ•™ๅธซใจใ—ใฆใฎ็งใŸใกใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใ€‚ใใ‚ŒใŒ AZ English
06:48
podcast? Pretty much, Yep.
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใงใ™ใ‹?ใ‹ใชใ‚Šใ€ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
06:51
So it wasn't a tough sell I guess for you then, Kevin to come on board and join Jack?
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใŒๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใซๅŠ ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใซใจใฃใฆ้›ฃใ—ใ„ๅฃฒใ‚Šใงใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
06:58
Well, like I was saying a minute ago, it really started at first during the COVID pandemic
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1ๅˆ†ๅ‰ใซ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใฏCOVIDใƒ‘ใƒณใƒ‡ใƒŸใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎๆœ€ไธญใซใ€
07:04
when we were all just stuck at home.
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็งใŸใกๅ…จๅ“กใŒๅฎถใซ้–‰ใ˜่พผใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใจใใซๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
07:08
And not meeting friends. And not being social. And so Jack got in touch and said, hey, do
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ใใ—ใฆๅ‹้”ใซไผšใ‚ใชใ„ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€็คพไบค็š„ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใงใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใฏ้€ฃ็ตกใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šใ€ใ€Œใญใˆใ€
07:13
you guys want to hang out and talk about Korea and record it and publish it?
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŸใกใฏใŸใ‚€ใ‚ใ—ใฆ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’้Œฒ้Ÿณใ—ใฆๅ…ฌ้–‹ใ—ใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
07:17
And, I was like, yeah, thatโ€ฆ that sounds fun because I was just lonely.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏใ€ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏโ€ฆ ๆฅฝใ—ใใ†ใซ่žใ“ใˆใพใ—ใŸใ€‚็งใฏใŸใ ๅญค็‹ฌใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
07:23
I needed friends. I needed something to do.
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ๅ‹้”ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ไฝ•ใ‹ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
07:25
And there it just started and it just got better andโ€ฆ and it was fun to do. It was
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅง‹ใพใฃใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸโ€ฆใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆฅฝใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
07:29
fun just toโ€ฆ to hang out and talk w ith cool people.
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ใŸใ‚€ใ‚ใ—ใฆใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใชไบบใŸใกใจ่ฉฑใ™ใ ใ‘ ใง ๆฅฝใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
07:33
So that suggests to me then that the podcast is about two years old, roughly.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฏใŠใ‚ˆใ 2 ๅนดๅ‰ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
07:39
Actually, yeah. Yeah, I would say yeah, but we started the
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏใใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€
07:44
Seoul patch about two years ago and we've been doing the A-Z podcast for about 3 months.
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็ด„ 2 ๅนดๅ‰ใซใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซ ใƒ‘ใƒƒใƒใ‚’้–‹ๅง‹ใ—ใ€็ด„ 3 ใ‹ๆœˆ้–“ AZ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:51
It's still new. The Soul patch is on hiatus, but we plan to
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ใพใ ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซใƒ‘ใƒƒใƒใฏไผ‘ๆญขไธญใงใ™ใŒ
07:56
bring that back once a week. Soon.
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ใ€้€ฑใซ1ๅ›žๅพฉๆดปใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ไบˆๅฎšใงใ™ใ€‚ๅพŒใงใ€‚
08:00
So the A-Z podcast. If you have to give a description about what it is, then what would
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰AZใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ€‚ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆใ€
08:07
that description be? Kevin, I'll let you field this one.
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ใใฎ่ชฌๆ˜Žใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๅ›ใซไปปใ›ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ€‚
08:12
So and the A-Z English podcast is a podcast for English learners, of course, people who
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AZ ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฐใƒชใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฏใ€่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใฏใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€
08:20
want to learn English. But it's focused on listening to native speakers
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใณใŸใ„ไบบๅ‘ใ‘ใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใงใ™ใ€‚ใงใ‚‚
08:26
just talk and explain things in a kind of natural conversation with homework attached,
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ใ€ๅฎฟ้กŒไป˜ใใฎ่‡ช็„ถใชไผš่ฉฑใงใ€ใƒใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใ‚นใƒ”ใƒผใ‚ซใƒผใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ‚Š่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ ใฎใ‚’่žใใ“ใจใซ็„ฆ็‚นใ‚’ๅฝ“ใฆใฆใ„
08:33
right? So there's, you can listen to Jack and I and our other host, Xochilt, she's not
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ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใจ็งใ€ใใ—ใฆ็งใŸใกใฎใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ไบบใฎใƒ›ใ‚นใƒˆใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚พใƒใƒซใƒˆใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ๅฝผๅฅณ
08:39
here at the moment. You can just listen to us talk about different
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ใฏไปŠใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚็งใŸใกใŒใ•ใพใ–ใพใชใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่žใ„ใŸใ‚Š
08:42
things or explain some idioms. Or sometimes we get into some grammar too, but grammar
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ใ€ใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใŸใ‚Šใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใพใŸใฏใ€ๆ–‡ๆณ•ใซใ‚‚ๅ…ฅใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ๆ–‡ๆณ•
08:47
is not as exciting. But it's just us talking about topics so that
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ใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉๅˆบๆฟ€็š„ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“.ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใŒใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใชใฎใงใ€
08:51
listeners can get a feel for what native English conversations sound like.
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ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฏใƒใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใฎ่‹ฑไผš่ฉฑใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่žใ“ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™.
08:59
And like I said, there's homework connected, so it's not just listening, it's listening
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็งใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๅฎฟ้กŒใฏใคใชใŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใŸใ ่žใใ ใ‘ใงใฏใชใใ€่žใ„ใฆใ€
09:03
and, you know, answer some questions and focus, so there's, uh, a study element forโ€ฆ for
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ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ่ณชๅ•ใซ็ญ”ใˆใฆ้›†ไธญใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™
09:08
our listeners and the students as well. Well, yes, I did listen to a handful of the
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09:15
podcast. One of them was grammar related, related to the present voice and the past
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ใ„ใใคใ‹่žใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใใฎใ†ใกใฎ 1 ใคใฏๆ–‡ๆณ•้–ข้€ฃใงใ€็พๅœจใฎๅฃฐใจ้ŽๅŽปใฎ
09:21
voice. OK.
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ๅฃฐใซ้–ข้€ฃใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
09:22
I think talking about it being eaten by a giant sandwich was a sentence that stood out,
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ๅทจๅคงใชใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใ‚คใƒƒใƒใซ้ฃŸในใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†่ฉฑใฏใ€
09:28
stood out to me my first, right? Passive and active.
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็›ฎ็ซ‹ใฃใŸใ€็งใฎๆœ€ๅˆใฎ็›ฎ็ซ‹ใฃใŸๆ–‡ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸใƒ‘ใƒƒใ‚ทใƒ–ใจใ‚ขใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใ€‚
09:30
Yep, passive voice activation. My first thought was, โ€œWhat kind of sandwich
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ใใ†ใ€ๅ—ๅ‹•ๆ…‹ใฎ่ตทๅ‹•ใงใ™ใ€‚็งใŒๆœ€ๅˆใซ่€ƒใˆใŸใฎใฏใ€ใ€Œใฉใ‚“ใชใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใ‚คใƒƒใƒ
09:33
would I want that to be?โ€ Good question, good question.
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ใซใ—ใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ„ใ„่ณชๅ•ใ ใ€ใ„ใ„่ณชๅ•ใ ใ€‚
09:37
Yeah, that's a good question, right. Iโ€ฆ I would say ham and cheese if you had to ask
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09:41
if I if you really pushed me, but yeah. Notโ€ฆ not a bad answer.
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09:45
Another episode was about everyday idioms. Yeah, so there seems to be quite a variety
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ๅˆฅใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฏใ€ๆ—ฅๅธธใฎๆ…ฃ็”จๅฅใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใˆใˆใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็ ”็ฉถใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚„็™บ่กจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใฏ
09:53
of topics that you study but or that you present. But when you do, when you did come up with
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Šๅคšๅฒ ใซใ‚ใŸใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใงใ‚‚ใ€
09:59
the idea initially, it's kind of such a broad spectrum, isn't it to startโ€ฆ?
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10:04
English. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ€‚ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
10:05
And yeah, English and then a podcast about English. So oh, OK, well, where where do we
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใˆใˆใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใ€ใใ—ใฆ่‹ฑ่ชžใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใงใ™ใ€‚ใงใฏใ€ใฉใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰
10:11
begin? Where do we go? So that very first episode that you did, if you can remember
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ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚ใฉใ“ใซ่กŒใ“ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸๆœ€ๅˆใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฏใ€ใใ“ใพใง่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใ‚Œใฐ
10:16
back that far, how did you decide what the content would be?
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10:20
That's a great question. Yeah. So I think probably our second one, the first
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10:24
one was probably just an introduction for us.
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10:26
OK, fair enough. Yes. But then yeah after that and that's honestly
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10:31
topics is one of the hardest parts ofโ€ฆ of thinking of new episodes for grammar, for
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ใชใจใ“ใ‚ใ€ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใฏ...ๆ–‡ๆณ•ใ€ ใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใ€ใใ—ใฆโ€ฆใใ—ใฆ็งใŸใกใฎใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆ
10:37
idioms andโ€ฆ and for our chats. For the chats, it's just things that Jack
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ใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใฎใŒๆœ€ใ‚‚้›ฃใ—ใ„้ƒจๅˆ†ใฎ1ใคใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ
10:43
and I are interested in.
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ใจ็งใŒ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
10:44
Andโ€ฆ and hopefully topics that our audience are interested in as well.
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ใใ—ใฆโ€ฆใใ—ใฆใ€ใ†ใพใใ„ใ‘ใฐใ€็งใŸใกใฎ่ด่ก†ใ‚‚ๅŒๆง˜ใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใงใ™.
10:50
So we have a lot of young listeners, so we're trying to find more younger topics 'cause
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่‹ฅใ„ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใ‚‚ใฃใจ่‹ฅใ„ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚ˆ
10:55
we're not so young and trying to relate. Jack, how do you come up with yourโ€ฆ our
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ใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆโ€ฆ็งใŸใกใฎ ่ฉฑ้กŒ ใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ใคใ„ใŸใฎ
11:00
topics? Well, I think it goes back to my experience
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?ใใ‚Œใฏ็ง ใฎๆ•™ๅธซใจใ—ใฆใฎ ็ตŒ้จ“ใซ้กใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
11:04
as a teacher. I think one of the pitfalls that a lot of teachers, they come to another
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ๅคšใใฎๆ•™ๅธซใŒ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซๅˆฅใฎๅ›ฝใซๆฅใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ่กŒใใจใ„ใ†่ฝใจใ—็ฉดใฎ 1 ใคใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
11:10
country to teach English and they go, Today, I am going to teach the present tense and
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ใ€‚ไปŠๆ—ฅใ€็งใฏ็พๅœจๆ™‚ๅˆถใจ็พๅœจ้€ฒ่กŒๅฝขใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆ
11:18
the present continuous tense. And when I leave, after my one hour or whatever, everybody will
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ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒๅŽปใ‚‹ใจใใ€1ๆ™‚้–“ใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใฎๅพŒใ€่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒ
11:24
understand completely what I just lectured becauseโ€ฆ. 'cause Iโ€ฆ I know that I organized
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็งใŒไปŠ่ฌ›็พฉใ—ใŸใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฎŒๅ…จใซ็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†โ€ฆ. ใชใœใชใ‚‰็งใฏโ€ฆ ็งใฏ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใ‚’ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ†ใพใ
11:30
my lesson so well.โ€ And then I come back the next day, and everybody
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็ต„็น”ใ—ใŸใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆ ใ„ใพใ™. ใใ—ใฆ็ฟŒๆ—ฅๆˆปใฃใฆใใ‚‹ใจใ€่ชฐใ‚‚
11:36
is making the same mistakes that they were before I lectured.
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ใŒ็งใŒ่ฌ›็พฉใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใจๅŒใ˜้–“้•ใ„ใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™.
11:40
And what you have toโ€ฆ to realize is that, if you create a lesson for the classroom,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ช่ญ˜ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใฏใ€ๆ•™ๅฎคใงใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณ
11:49
or a podcast episode or something, they're just listeners are going to take away maybe
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ใ‚„ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใชใฉใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฏใ€
11:55
if you're lucky 1 little piece of something that they hadn't put together.
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้‹ใŒ่‰ฏใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใฎๅฐใ•ใชๆ–ญ็‰‡ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚ŠไธŠใ’ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™.ใพใจใ‚ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:01
But this idea that we're going to kind of solve the problem of tense or whatever is
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใŒๆ™‚ๅˆถใฎๅ•้กŒใชใฉใ‚’่งฃๆฑบใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใฎ่€ƒใˆใฏใ€
12:08
Iโ€ฆ I mean, it's a trap a lot of teachers fall into, especially new teachers.
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็งใฏโ€ฆใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅคšใใฎๆ•™ๅธซใ€็‰นใซๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๆ•™ๅธซใŒ้™ฅใ‚‹็ฝ ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:14
But for us, we don't, we try not to worry about, you know, them understanding everything.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใ™ในใฆใ‚’็†่งฃใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟƒ้…ใ—ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
12:20
If they can just take out one or two key points during thatโ€ฆ that lesson, I would consider
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ใใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณไธญใซใ‚ญใƒผใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ 1 ใคใพใŸใฏ 2 ใคๅ–ใ‚ŠไธŠใ’ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚Œใฐโ€ฆใใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณ
12:27
that a success. In my mind, yeah. Yeah, I guess that's a great point is that
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ใฏๆˆๅŠŸใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚็งใฎ่€ƒใˆใงใฏใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„็‚นใ ใจๆ€ใ„
12:34
if there's something, because everybody learns differently, also everybody has their own
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ใพใ™ใ€‚ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒ็•ฐใชใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใงๅญฆ็ฟ’
12:40
agenda to write about what they need to improve or whatโ€ฆ what they want to learn in the
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ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ๆ”นๅ–„ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ€ใพใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‚’โ€ฆ
12:45
first place. So yeah, designing an episode where you can
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ๆœ€ๅˆใซๅญฆใณใŸใ„ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆๆ›ธใใŸใ‚ใฎ็‹ฌ่‡ชใฎ่ญฐ้กŒใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€1ใคใพใŸใฏ2ใคใพใŸใฏ3ใคใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’่จญ่จˆใ™ใ‚‹ใจ
12:49
take away one or two or three things, then, yeah, that has to be considered a success.
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ใ€ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚ŒใฏๆˆๅŠŸใจ่ฆ‹ใชใ•ใ‚Œใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“.
12:54
So, let's talk, let's talk about theโ€ฆ the structures of the episodes. Do they follow
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ใใ‚Œใงใฏใ€่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†โ€ฆ ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎๆง‹้€ ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
13:01
a similar breakdown each time you do it? Theโ€ฆ the way that we have been organizing
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†ใŸใณ ใซใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅŒๆง˜ใฎๅ†…่จณใซๅพ“ใ„ ใพใ™ใ‹?็งใŸใกใŒๆœ€่ฟ‘
13:07
it lately is that we try to do, we try to evenly distribute the types of episodes that
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่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใฏ ใ€่จ˜้Œฒ ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎ็จฎ้กžใ‚’ๅ‡็ญ‰ใซๅˆ†้…ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†
13:14
we are recording. So, we have what we call Quick Chats and those
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ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ใ‚ฏใ‚คใƒƒใ‚ฏ ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰
13:21
are just conversations.
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ใฏๅ˜ใชใ‚‹ไผš่ฉฑใงใ™ใ€‚
13:24
And what we do is we just kind of freestyle a conversation between the three of us or
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใŒใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€็งใŸใก3ไบบใพใŸใฏ 2ไบบ ใฎ้–“ใงใฎใƒ•ใƒชใƒผใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใฎไผš่ฉฑ
13:31
two of us. And then we go back and we kind of cherry
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ใงใ™. ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใฏๆˆปใฃใฆใ€
13:34
pick vocabulary and put that into a study guide, provide a transcript for the students.
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่ชžๅฝ™ใ‚’ๅŽณ้ธใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ฌใ‚คใƒ‰ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ€็”Ÿๅพ’ใซใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใƒˆใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ—ใพใ™.
13:42
But in essence, it just gives them an opportunity to listen to a real time conversation between
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ๆœฌ่ณช็š„ใซใฏใ€ 2 ไบบใฎใƒใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ– ใ‚นใƒ”ใƒผใ‚ซใƒผ ้–“ใฎใƒชใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ ใฎไผš่ฉฑใ‚’่žใๆฉŸไผšใ‚’ๅฝผใ‚‰ใซไธŽใˆใ‚‹ใ ใ‘
13:50
two native speakers. Yeah.
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ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
13:52
The other epโ€ฆ two types of episodes that we have our where we we'd have 3 idioms and
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ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฏ 2 ็จฎ้กžใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใงใ€3 ใคใฎใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
13:58
we just explain the meaning of them because, you know, idioms can be very difficult to
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ใ€ใใฎๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใฏ้žๅธธใซ
14:04
understand. Some of them areโ€ฆ. I don't even know the
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็†่งฃใ—ใซใใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ„ใใคใ‹ใฏโ€ฆ.
14:07
genesis of, a lot of you know idioms like they're so old, you know, like talking about
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้ฆฌใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฉฑใ™ ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€้ฆฌใ‚’ๆฐดใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใซๅฐŽใใ‚ˆใ† ใชๅคใ„ใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ๅคšใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ ใ† ใ€‚
14:13
like a horse, you know, lead a horse to water or something.
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ๅณใ€‚ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฎใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ—ใฏโ€ฆ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่žใๆ–‡ๆณ•ใฎ
14:16
Right. Uhm, the other type is theโ€ฆ the grammar
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ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใงใ™ใ€‚็งใŸใกใฏใ€ใ•ใพใ–ใพใชๆ–‡ๆณ•ใฎใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆ
14:21
episode that you listen to, and we're trying to kind of go through different grammar points
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ใ‚’่ชฟในใฆใ€ไพ‹ใ‚’ๆไพ› ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ
14:25
and provide examples. And I think those are maybe the hardest to
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆๅฝขๅผใง็ฟป่จณใ™ใ‚‹ใฎ ใŒใŠใใ‚‰ใๆœ€ใ‚‚้›ฃใ—ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„
14:30
translate through a podcast format. Because you don't have a whiteboard. You don't
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ใพใ™. ใƒ›ใƒฏใ‚คใƒˆใƒœใƒผใƒ‰ใŒใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›
14:36
have, you know you can't draw a timeline and things like that. So, but those are the three
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ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ ใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใชใฉใ‚’ๆใใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™.
14:42
basic types of episodes that we have been recording most recently.
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ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ ็งใŸใกใŒๆœ€่ฟ‘่จ˜้Œฒใ— ใŸ 3 ใคใฎ ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใชใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ—ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
14:49
Which ones, Kevin, are your favorite ones to do?
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ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใฏใฉใ‚Œใงใ™ใ‹?
14:53
Oh, theโ€ฆ the quick chats are the most theโ€ฆ the easiest and the most fun.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใฎโ€ฆ ใ‚ฏใ‚คใƒƒใ‚ฏ ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใŒๆœ€ใ‚‚โ€ฆ ๆœ€ใ‚‚็ฐกๅ˜ใงใ€ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
14:58
Because, I mean, like we said, it's we started this podcast just to hang out with friends
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ใคใพใ‚Š ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€็งใŸใกใฏใŸใ ๅ‹้”
15:03
and that's what that is. The quick chat is just hanging out withโ€ฆ. with Jack or Xochitl
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15:08
andโ€ฆ and just talking about something, so those are fun. I would say that the grammar
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ใจโ€ฆใใ—ใฆใŸใ ไฝ•ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใชใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
15:13
and the idioms ones though are kind of interesting to do as well, because, Jack and I's relationship
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ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใจ็งใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ ใฏใ€้ŽๅŽปไฝ•ๅนดใซใ‚‚ใ‚ใŸใฃใฆๅ‹ไบบ้–ขไฟ‚ใ ใฃใŸ ใฎใง ใ€ๆ–‡ๆณ•
15:20
for the past many years has just been a friend relationship.
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ใจๆ…ฃ็”จๅฅใ‚‚ๅŒๆง˜ใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจๆ€ใ„ ใพใ™ใ€‚
15:23
We didn't teach together. But in those episodes, it's much more teaching, right? It's like,
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15:28
here's a grammar, here's an idiom, how do you do it? And it's very interesting to see
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ใŒๆ–‡ๆณ•ใงใ€ใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใŒใ“ใ‚Œใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ ใ€ๅฝผใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฎ่€ƒใˆๆ–นใฏ
15:33
his style of thinking of ideas. Or my style of thinking of ideas and how those translate
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15:40
into audio and into podcasts. And so even though they're not as fun necessarily to record,
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15:49
they're equally interesting just to do it with someone else.
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15:52
You get to feel what it feels like to be a student in Jackโ€™s classroom and conversely,
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16:01
in Kevinโ€™s classroom when you sit back and listen on the podcast how each of you might
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ใ‹ใ‚’่žใ ใจใ€็”Ÿๅพ’ใซใชใฃใŸๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆ
16:06
explain a different grammar point or an idiom. And I'm guessing that helps because you can
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅคงๅญฆใฎ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆ•™ๅฎคใซๆŒใฃใฆ่กŒใใ€ใใ“ใงใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’้ฉ็”จ
16:11
take that to your own classrooms in your university and apply those things there.
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ใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฝน็ซ‹ใคใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ .
16:16
Yeah, it's amazing what you can learn from other teachers asโ€ฆ as well.
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16:20
Oh, absolutely. And the, you know, the analogies that he'll use are some that I had never thought
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€็ตถๅฏพใซใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๅฝผใŒไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ขใƒŠใƒญใ‚ธใƒผใฏใ€็งใŒ่€ƒใˆใŸใ“ใจใ‚‚ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚‚ใฎ
16:27
of. Yeah, right.
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16:28
It's same for you of course. And you know, well, yeah and I, you know,
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€ใˆใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
16:31
you tend to lean into the same ones over and over again every year after year.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆฏŽๅนดๅŒใ˜ใ‚‚ใฎใซไฝ•ๅบฆใ‚‚ๅ‚พใๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
16:37
And it'sโ€ฆ it's nice to just watch someone else do it and it opens up a whole, you know,
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏโ€ฆ ่ชฐใ‹ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ€
16:44
new world for you. So yeah, it's really useful. So you mentioned you mentioned homework. Is
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16:49
that homework given at the end of each of the podcast, regardless of whether it's a
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ใใฎๅฎฟ้กŒ ใฏ ใ€ ๆ–‡ๆณ•ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ€ใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ€็ฐกๅ˜ใชใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎ
16:56
grammar episode or an idiom episode or a quick chat episode or a Jackโ€™s chats episode?
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ใ„ใšใ‚Œใงใ‚ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ€ๅ„ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎๆœ€ๅพŒใซไธŽใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œ ใพใ™ใ‹?
17:02
I didn't bring that up, but we're going to talk about that in a moment too. Is itโ€ฆ
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17:07
Does it follow that format? There's homework at the end of each and every episode?
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ใใฎใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒžใƒƒใƒˆใซๅพ“ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸๅ„ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎๆœ€ๅพŒใซๅฎฟ้กŒใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎ๏ผŸ
17:11
Yeah, yeah. Kevin, do you want to talk about? This there is different types of homework
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ใˆใˆใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใ€่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ„๏ผŸ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ ใ€ๅ„ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใซ ใ•ใพใ–ใพใช็จฎ้กžใฎๅฎฟ้กŒใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
17:17
at the end of each episode. For each episode, we do ask questions for everyone. So theโ€ฆ
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ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ”ใจใซใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใซ่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Šโ€ฆ
17:22
the most basic style of homework is simply asking our listeners to come to our WhatsApp
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17:29
group. We have a WhatsApp group for anyone to come and and just talk to us in practice,
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ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใซๆฅใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ้ ผใ‚€ใ“ใจใงใ™.่ชฐใงใ‚‚ๆฅใฆใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ็งใŸใกใจ่ฉฑใ™ใŸใ‚ใฎWhatsAppใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
17:34
which is very helpful. Tell us what thatโ€ฆ. Tell us what that is,
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17:37
please. So WhatsApp is just a chat program. Of course,
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ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Šใ€WhatsApp ใฏๅ˜ใชใ‚‹ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆ ใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€
17:39
I'm sure all of our young listeners know it better than I do. And we just have a WhatsApp
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็งใŸใกใฎ่‹ฅใ„ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฏ็š†ใ€็งใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™. ใใ—ใฆ ใ€A to Z English ็”จใฎ
17:44
chat room for A to Z English and a couple of other ones as well where any listener can
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WhatsApp ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆ ใƒซใƒผใƒ ใจใ€ไป–ใซใ‚‚ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆ ใƒซใƒผใƒ ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใชใ‚‰่ชฐใงใ‚‚ใ“ใ“
17:51
just come and talk to us and other teachers as well in there.
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ใซๆฅใฆใ€็งใŸใกใ‚„ไป–ใฎๆ•™ๅธซใจ่ฉฑใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
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And so a lot of our homework is, you know, today we're talking about the weather. Come
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใฎๅฎฟ้กŒใฎๅคšใใฏใ€ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๅคฉๆฐ—ใซใคใ„ใฆใงใ™ใ€‚ใŠๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Š
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and tell us about your favorite weather. What season do you like? Or just some simple questions
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ใฎๅคฉๆฐ—ใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใฉใฎๅญฃ็ฏ€ใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚
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at the end? Some of our episodes like the idioms, for example, that's a little bit more
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ใ€ๆœ€ๅพŒใซใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ็ฐกๅ˜ใช่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ‹?ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ๆ…ฃ็”จๅฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎใ„ใใคใ‹ใฏใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—
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structured and we have a PDF file connected with those where they can download the PDF.
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ๆง‹้€ ๅŒ–ใ•ใ‚ŒใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€PDF ใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚คใƒซใ‚’ใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใงใใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซๆŽฅ็ถšใ•ใ‚ŒใŸ PDF ใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚คใƒซใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
18:16
There's some questions that they can fill out and they can come to the WhatsApp group
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ่จ˜ๅ…ฅใงใใ‚‹ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ่ณชๅ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
18:20
again to share their example sentences using the idioms or using the grammar points. And
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ๅ†ใณWhatsAppใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใซๆฅใฆใ€ใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใพใŸใฏๆ–‡ๆณ•ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆไพ‹ๆ–‡ใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™.ใใ—ใฆ
18:28
then we will comment and reply and say, oh good job or oh fix this or things like that.
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ใ€ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ—ใฆ่ฟ”ไฟกใ—ใ€ใŠใŠใ€ใ‚ˆใใ‚„ใฃใŸใ€ใพใŸใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ไฟฎๆญฃใ™ใ‚‹ใ€ใพใŸใฏใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
18:34
So it'โ€ฆs it's a lot of self-study, but those WhatsApp groups do give us some interaction
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๅคšใใฎ่‡ช็ฟ’ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™ใŒใ€Whโ€‹โ€‹atsApp ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฏ็งใŸใกใซไบคๆต
18:40
and allow us to work with students after. As well.
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ใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใใ‚Œใ€ๅพŒใง็”Ÿๅพ’ใŸใกใจไธ€็ท’ใซไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€‚
18:44
Yes, absolutely. It'sโ€ฆ it's very, it's a great resource actually for us as well as
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ใใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏโ€ฆ ใใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ็งใŸใกใจ
18:50
the students. So for example, If we're brainstorming an
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ๅญฆ็”Ÿ ใซใจใฃใฆ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใƒชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚น ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
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episode idea, we can bring that to the WhatsApp group. Students will give us feedback. They'll
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ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ‚’ใƒ–ใƒฌใ‚คใƒณใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒŸใƒณใ‚ฐใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ WhatsApp ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใซๆŒใก่พผใ‚€ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚็”Ÿๅพ’ใŸใกใฏ็งใŸใกใซใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ‰ใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ใใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
19:04
tell us what did you like about this? What is not working for you? Soemthin that we I'd
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ“ใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆไฝ•ใŒๅฅฝใใ ใฃใŸใ‹ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใพใ™ใ‹?ไฝ•ใŒใ†ใพใใ„ใ‹ใชใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
19:11
be remiss if I didn't say we make a transcript through you know AI technology you can you
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AIใƒ†ใ‚ฏใƒŽใƒญใ‚ธใƒผใ‚’ไป‹ใ—ใฆใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใƒˆใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ‚ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€็งใฏ ่ฆ‹้€ƒใ—ใฆ
19:20
know punch it intoโ€ฆ Uh, Microsoft Word and it will spit out a.. a whole transcript that
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19:28
we can add to theโ€ฆ the study guide. And so, you know, there's just a lot of different
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่ฟฝๅŠ ใงใใ‚‹ ๅฎŒๅ…จใชใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใƒˆ ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒ‡ใ‚ฃ ใ‚ฌใ‚คใƒ‰ใธใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็”Ÿๅพ’ใŒๅ˜ใซ ่žใ
19:34
ways that students can interact or interface with our content that doesn't just require
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ใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€็งใŸใกใฎใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใจใ‚„ใ‚Šๅ–ใ‚Šใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ•ใ‚งใƒผใ‚นใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ• ใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Š ใพใ™ใ€‚
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listening. But they can also read along. UM, they can
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ไธ€็ท’ใซ่ชญใ‚€ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใˆใˆใจใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
19:45
make their own sentences and upload those to put them in WhatsApp.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆ–‡็ซ ใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ—ใฆWhatsAppใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™.
19:51
Get some feedback from us in real time. So I just uh, this is what's different about
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ใƒชใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ ใงใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ‰ใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ใŠๅฏ„ใ›ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ
19:59
the A-Z English podcast then our Seoul Patch podcast. The Seoul Patch Podcast was more
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ใ€AZ ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฐใƒชใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใจใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซ ใƒ‘ใƒƒใƒ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎ้•ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซ ใƒ‘ใƒƒใƒ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฏใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š
20:05
entertainment. This is more educational. So it does require a little more effort on the
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ใ‚จใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ†ใ‚คใƒณใƒกใƒณใƒˆ็š„ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆ•™่‚ฒ็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใฎใŸใ‚
20:12
back end as far as marketing and things like that.
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ใ€ใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚„ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎ
20:15
And so, but it's it really pays off when you get positive feedback from students in the
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ใซ้–ขใ—ใฆใฏใ€ใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚จใƒณใƒ‰ใงใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—ๅŠชๅŠ›ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™ . ใจใฏใ„ใˆใ€
20:24
WhatsApp group. And that'sโ€ฆ that's a beautiful thing about
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WhatsApp ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎๅญฆ็”Ÿใ‹ใ‚‰่‚ฏๅฎš็š„ใชใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ‰ใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚‹ใจใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅ ฑใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏโ€ฆ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐๅ…จ่ˆฌใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใจใ“ใ‚
20:26
podcasting in general, is that everyone, all of our listeners, can do what they want. If
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20:32
they just want to come and listen, great, just come and listen. If you want to do the
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ใ€็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€ใŸใ ๆฅใฆ่žใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ PDF ใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚คใƒซใฎๅฎฟ้กŒใ‚’่‡ชๅˆ†ใง
20:36
homework, the PDF file by yourself, check our web page. It's there and do that. If you
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ใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏ ใ€Web ใƒšใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’็ขบ่ชใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใจ่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ„
20:41
want to come and talk to us, come and talk to us. Now, if you want to do all of it, do
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20:45
all of it as well. It's, it's up for them to choose how much they want to.
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ใ™ในใฆๅฎŸ่กŒใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใฉใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใ—ใŸใ„ใ‹ใ‚’้ธๆŠžใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
20:50
You can be as active or as passive as you would like to be in terms of you being a learner.
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20:56
Exactly. Very much so. So why podcasting as opposed to doing something
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ไธๅบฆใ€‚ใพใ•ใซใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚ใงใฏใ€ใชใœ
21:03
in front of a camera, I wonder? Uhm, again, I think the barrier to entry is
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ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใฎๅ‰ใงไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹? ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ ใŒใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ๅ‚ๅ…ฅ้šœๅฃใฏใฏใ‚‹ใ‹ใซไฝŽใ„
21:11
much lower for a podcast. All we had to do was purchas some microphones.
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ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ . ็งใŸใกใŒใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใฏใ€ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใƒžใ‚คใ‚ฏใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใ‘ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ ใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆ
21:19
And I just had to go in and figure out, OK, what platform are we going to use to upload
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ใ‚’ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใฉใฎใƒ—ใƒฉใƒƒใƒˆใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’่ชฟในใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ
21:26
our podcast. And Iโ€ฆ I love podcasting. Iโ€ฆ Iโ€ฆ I also
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ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏโ€ฆ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚็งใฏโ€ฆ ็งใฏโ€ฆ
21:32
enjoy audiobooks. But I've kind of transitioned into just listening to a lot of different
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ใ‚ชใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ–ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใฏใ•ใพใ–ใพใช
21:41
podcasts. And I donโ€™t know, it's just I just love
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’่žใใ ใ‘ใซ็งป่กŒใ—ใพใ—ใŸ.ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
21:44
that medium so much. And Iโ€ฆ I think YouTube kind of requires your, you know more of your
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ใใฎใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใชใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏโ€ฆ YouTube ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎ
21:52
attention. But you know, I can do chores around the house
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ๆณจๆ„ใ‚’ใ‚‚ใฃใจๅฟ…่ฆใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใงใ‚‚
21:57
and vacuum and mop the floors while I listen to a podcast.
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ใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’่ดใใชใŒใ‚‰ใ€ๅฎถใฎๅ‘จใ‚Šใฎ้›‘็”จใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅบŠใ‚’ๆŽƒ้™คๆฉŸใงๆŽƒ้™คใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใƒขใƒƒใƒ—ใŒใ‘ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
22:02
But that's a little harder to do while watching a YouTube video and so, and I'm 45 years old,
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€YouTube ใฎๅ‹•็”ปใชใฉใ‚’่ฆ‹ใชใŒใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†ใฎใฏๅฐ‘ใ—้›ฃใ—ใใ€็งใฏ 45 ๆญณ
22:10
so I kind of missed the boat when it comes to.
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ใชใฎใงใ€ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจไน—ใ‚Š้…ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
22:12
No, no. Right. No, no. You don't get to throw that card down. Not, not, not with this audience.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€‚ๅณใ€‚ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€‚ใใฎใ‚ซใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’ๆจใฆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚้•ใ†ใ€้•ใ†ใ€ใ“ใฎ่ด่ก†ใจใฏ้•ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:17
I'm sorry. You can keep that for your for your classroom students.
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ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€‚ๆ•™ๅฎคใฎ็”Ÿๅพ’ใฎใŸใ‚ใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ไฟๆŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
22:22
So what does the future hold that in terms of content, maybe you can tell us about the
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ใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใซ้–ขใ—ใฆใฏใ€ๅฐ†ๆฅใฏใฉใ†ใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡
22:27
most recent episode that you did and maybe some something that you have coming up soon.
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ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่กŒใฃใŸๆœ€ๆ–ฐใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใจใ€่ฟ‘ๆ—ฅไธญใซไบˆๅฎšใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„.
22:33
Well, actually, Kevin doesn't even know about this because I just created something called
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ใˆใˆใจใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ€ Jack Chats ใจ ๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ—ใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใชใฎใงใ€Kevin ใ‚‚ใ“ใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
22:40
Jack Chats and yeah. I'm looking at oh OK yeah, yeah.
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ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ‚ใ‚OKใˆใˆใ€ใˆใˆใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:42
Steve here mentioned that a second ago and I was like, what is that?
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ใ“ใ“ใฎใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใŒๅฐ‘ใ—ๅ‰ใซใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€็งใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
22:47
This is new. Jack shot.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ€‚ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒˆใ€‚
22:48
News for you, Kevin, Iโ€ฆ I was watching your facial expression when Jack said. Actually,
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ใŠ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ›ใงใ™ใ€ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใ€็งใฏโ€ฆ ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใจใใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่กจๆƒ…ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€
22:53
Kevin doesn't know about this. And you, you had this wonderfully blank stare. A wonderful
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ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใฏใ“ใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€ใ“ใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ็ฉบ็™ฝใฎๅ‡่ฆ–ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ้ก”ใซ ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„
22:59
blank stare on your face. So wait, now I'm curious.
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็ฉบ็™ฝใฎๅ‡่ฆ–ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ€ไปŠ็งใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
23:02
I knew more about the podcast for a brief moment than Kevin did.
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็งใฏใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—ใฎ้–“็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ.
23:06
So it seems. Jack, what is this? What is this secret?
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ใใ†ใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฃใฝใ„ใ€‚ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏไฝ•๏ผŸใ“ใฎ็ง˜ๅฏ†ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
23:09
OK. So, OK. New project of yours. This is great.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚่‰ฏใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ธใ‚งใ‚ฏใƒˆใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚
23:12
Well, we it because we have three members of our, you know, 3 hosts of our show.
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ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใŸใกใซใฏ3ไบบใฎใƒกใƒณใƒใƒผใŒใ„ใฆใ€ใ‚ทใƒงใƒผใฎใƒ›ใ‚นใƒˆใŒ3ไบบใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
23:19
One actually lives in the United States. Kevin and I are in Korea. We're all busy and
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ไธ€ไบบใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใจ็งใฏ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚็งใŸใกใฏ็š†ๅฟ™ใ—ใใ€
23:26
our schedules are crazy. But we're trying to build up more content.
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ใ‚นใ‚ฑใ‚ธใƒฅใƒผใƒซใฏ็‹‚ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ‚’ๆง‹็ฏ‰ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
23:31
And so something that I wanted to do was to try a solo podcast where I'm just created.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใŒใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใ“ใจใฏใ€็งใŒไฝœๆˆใ—ใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใฎใ‚ฝใƒญใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’่ฉฆใ™ใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸ.
23:37
I just do like aโ€ฆ it's almostโ€ฆ. it's almost like, a confessional kind of thing where I
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23:43
just share some of my ideas, things that are happening in my life, uhm, things that might
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ใฏใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ€็งใฎไบบ็”Ÿใง่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€
23:50
be happening in the World News or something that somebody mentioned in the WhatsApp group.
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ใƒฏใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใง่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ“ใจใ€ใพใŸใฏ่ชฐใ‹ใŒWhatsAppใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใง่จ€ๅŠใ—ใŸใ“ใจ
23:57
I might talk about that. And it's just me basically in front of my
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ใฎใ„ใใคใ‹ใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‘Š็™ฝ็š„ใชใ‚‚ใฎ
24:00
mic. Just kind ofโ€ฆ stream of consciousness for 10 or 15 minutes. A nd I just wanted to
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ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซ ใƒžใ‚คใ‚ฏ ใฎๅ‰ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ็งใ ใ‘ใงใ™
24:08
upload that and give students something if they're craving content in between our three
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ใ€‚ ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจโ€ฆ 10ๅˆ†ใ‹15ๅˆ†ใฎๆ„่ญ˜ใฎๆตใ‚Œใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ—ใฆ ใ€้€ฑใซใƒชใƒชใƒผใ‚น
24:14
episodes that we release during the week, because we release episodes basically Sunday,
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ใ™ใ‚‹ 3 ใคใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎ้–“ใซใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ‚’ๆฌฒใ—ใŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅญฆ็”Ÿใซไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ— ใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใ ใ‘ ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฏๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใ€
24:21
Tuesdays and Thursdays. But if they were looking for something just to kind of satiate that
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็ซๆ›œๆ—ฅใ€ๆœจๆ›œๆ—ฅใซใƒชใƒชใƒผใ‚นใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใ€่€ณใ‚’ๅ‚พใ‘ใŸใ„ใจใ„ใ†่กๅ‹•ใ‚’ๆบ€ใŸใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆŽขใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใชใ‚‰
24:28
urge to listen, I'm going to throw up on Monday, Wednesday and Friday Jack Chats.
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ใ€็งใฏๆœˆๆ›œใ€ๆฐดๆ›œใ€้‡‘ๆ›œใฎใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใงๅใ„ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
24:36
And of course, it could be a Kevin chat or a Xochitl chat or a Jack and Kevin chat. It's
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใฎใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใ€Xochitl ใฎใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใ€ใพใŸใฏใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใจใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใฎใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใงใ‚โ€‹โ€‹ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œ
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aโ€ฆ it's not just mine. A Steve Chat is that may be in the cards in
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ใฏโ€ฆ ็งใ ใ‘ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ– ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใฏ ๅฐ†ๆฅ ใ‚ซใƒผใƒ‰ใซ็™ปๅ ดใ™ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
24:45
the future? I'm sorry, one more time.
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ใพใ™ใ‹? ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใ€‚
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A Steve chat? Is that a possibility? Absolutely, Steve, you. You are always welcome
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฎใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆ๏ผŸใใฎๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ็ตถๅฏพใซใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใ€‚ใ„ใคใงใ‚‚ๅคงๆญ“่ฟŽใงใ™
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to. Do not give me a microphone. That is your
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ใ€‚ใƒžใ‚คใ‚ฏใ‚’ใใ‚Œใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใชใŸ
24:53
biggest mistake. I'll talk for hours. Well, that's the great thing about A-Z Podcastโ€™s
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ใฎๆœ€ๅคงใฎ้–“้•ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚็งใฏไฝ•ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚‚่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ AZ Podcast ใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใจใ“ใ‚
24:58
is that S is between A&Z. So Steve, Steve fits right in.
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ใฏใ€S ใŒ A ใจ Z ใฎ้–“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฏใดใฃใŸใ‚Šใ ใ€‚
25:03
Perfect. Thereโ€ฆ there you go.
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ใƒ‘ใƒผใƒ•ใ‚งใ‚ฏใƒˆใ€‚ใปใ‚‰โ€ฆใปใ‚‰ใ€‚
25:05
So we're talking, then for the students, for your audience, you're talking. It was three
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็งใŸใกใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€็”Ÿๅพ’ใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ€่ด่ก†ใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ้€ฑ ใซ 3
25:12
episodes a week, but now we're looking at upwards of four or five, possibly more episodes
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่ฉฑใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ไปŠใฏ 4 ใคใ‹ 5 ่ฉฑไปฅไธŠใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰
25:19
a week in the future? What I'm hoping to do is to do 3 Jack chats
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้€ฑใซใ‚‚ใฃใจๅคšใใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?็งใŒใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ€3 ใคใฎใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆ
25:22
or you know, solo chats. And then three of our regular episodes.
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ใ€ใพใŸใฏใ‚ฝใƒญ ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใ‚’่กŒใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€้€šๅธธใฎ 3 ใคใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ€‚
25:29
And that will give students six days of content during the week and you know just to keep
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ใ“ใ‚Œใซใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ€ๅญฆ็”Ÿใฏ 1 ้€ฑ้–“ใฎใ†ใก 6 ๆ—ฅ้–“ใฎใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ‚’ๅˆฉ็”จใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™
25:35
that momentum going as we'reโ€ฆ we're s young podcast and I mean. Theโ€ฆ the market is saturated.
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ใ€‚ใ“ใฎๅ‹ขใ„ใ‚’็ถญๆŒใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใ€็งใŸใกใฏใพใ ่‹ฅใ„ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ใใฎโ€ฆ ๅธ‚ๅ ดใฏ้ฃฝๅ’Œ็Šถๆ…‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
25:44
Sure. I mean it's just you, you work so hard and
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไธ€็”Ÿๆ‡ธๅ‘ฝๅƒใ„ใฆใ€
25:48
you kind of hit this this glass ceiling and trying to break through any way you can. You
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ฌใƒฉใ‚นใฎๅคฉไบ•ใซใถใคใ‹ใ‚Šใ€ใงใใ‚‹้™ใ‚Š็ช็ ดใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
25:54
have to kind of throw everything, including the kitchen sink, you know, at it on in order
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ๆฌกใฎใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใซ็ช็ ดใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ ใŸใ‚ใซใ€ๅฐๆ‰€ใฎๆตใ—ใ‚’ๅซใ‚ใ€ใ™ในใฆใ‚’ๆŠ•ใ’ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
26:00
to try to, you know, break through to the next level.
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ใพใ™ ใ€‚
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So that's kind of where we are right now. And so we're just trying, trying everything,
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŸใกใŒไปŠใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใŸใกใฏใŸใ ่ฉฆใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใ™ในใฆใ‚’่ฉฆใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ ใˆใˆใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ
26:08
yeah. And I think I'm going to have to listen to
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ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใ‚‚ใ„ใใคใ‹
26:10
some of these Jack chats as well. I knew, I knew, I knew there was a passive
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่žใๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ . ็งใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€็งใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€็งใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€็งใฏ
26:15
aggressive comment coming in the very near future.
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้žๅธธใซ่ฟ‘ใ„ๅฐ†ๆฅใซๆฅใ‚‹ๅ—ๅ‹•็š„ใงๆ”ปๆ’ƒ็š„ใชใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ.
26:18
I'm just curious. I want to know what Jack is thinking. He's a friend of mine, so get
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็งใฏใŸใ ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใŒไฝ•ใ‚’่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹็Ÿฅใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใ€‚ๅฝผใฏ็งใฎๅ‹ไบบใชใฎใงใ€
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some more insight intoโ€ฆ into the mind of Jack.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆดžๅฏŸใ‚’ๆทฑใ‚ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„... ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎๅฟƒใซใ€‚
26:25
Hey, there you go. Stay tuned, stay tuned for episode one of
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ใญใˆใ€ใใ“ใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚ ่ฟ‘ๆ—ฅไธญใซๅ…ฌ้–‹ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณ ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆ
26:28
Kevin Chats coming up in the near future. The rebuttal chats.
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ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ 1 ใซ ใ”ๆœŸๅพ…ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ๅ่ซ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใ€‚
26:33
Yeah, well, Jack, did you know actually? Now, have you introduced this to your students
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸใ•ใฆใ€ๅคงๅญฆใฎๆ•™ๅฎคใงๅญฆ็”Ÿใซใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’็ดนไป‹ใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
26:41
in your in your university classrooms? Have they given you any feedback? Any ideas on
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ใ‹๏ผŸๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใซไฝ•ใ‹ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ‰ใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
26:46
what they think about this project? As a matter of fact, I actually just did last
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใ“ใฎใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ธใ‚งใ‚ฏใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆใฉใ†ๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฏ ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹? ๅฎŸใฏ
26:53
week. Uhm, I framed it in a way that it, to be kind of diplomatic about it, you know,
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ๅ…ˆ้€ฑ่กŒใฃใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆๅค–ไบค็š„ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ
27:01
I wasn't like, if you want an A in my class, you have to download, you know, 10 podcasts.
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ใ€็งใฎใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚นใงAใŒๅฟ…่ฆใชๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€10ๅ€‹ใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
27:09
Right. Listen to my podcast.
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ๅณใ€‚็งใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
27:11
Wink, wink. Yeah, exactly.
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ใ‚ฆใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚ฆใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฏใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€ใพใ•ใซใ€‚
27:13
But I do think that what we are doing is creating useful content that students could find very
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใŒใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ€ๅญฆ็”ŸใŒ้žๅธธใซ
27:21
helpful. And so I just put it up there on the on the
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ๅฝน็ซ‹ใคใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ๆœ‰็”จใชใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™.ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ใƒ›ใƒฏใ‚คใƒˆใƒœใƒผใƒ‰ใซ็ฝฎใ„ใฆ
27:26
whiteboard for my students to say, hey, if you guys are looking for, you know, some supplementary
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ใ€็”Ÿๅพ’ใŸใกใŒ่ฃœ่ถณ ่ณ‡ๆ–™ ใ‚’ๆŽขใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€่จ€ใฃใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ .
27:33
material. We've got these episodes, they're easy to
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็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ่žใๅ–ใ‚Šใ‚„ใ™ใ
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listen to, you can stream it right off of our website and it's very much related to
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ใ€็งใŸใกใฎใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒ–ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ™ใใซใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒŸใƒณใ‚ฐใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œ
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what we are studying in ourโ€ฆ in our book. So I do put it out there, but I'm very careful
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ใฏใ€็งใŸใกใŒๆœฌใง็ ”็ฉถใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใจ ้žๅธธใซ้–ข้€ฃใ—ใฆ ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ใใ“ใซๅ‡บใ—ใพใ™ใŒใ€็งใฏ้žๅธธใซๆ…Ž้‡
27:54
to say, Hey this is just another opportunity for you to do self study but because I think
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it can get it can get a little dicey eat if you if you're too pushy with it.
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28:09
Yeah, right. Well, that's kind of the way it goes in Canada,
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ใใ†ใ ใญใ€‚ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
28:13
where I'm from โ€“ buy my book. Thatโ€™s par for the coarse.
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็งใฎๅ‡บ่บซๅœฐใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ซใƒŠใƒ€ใงใฎใ‚„ใ‚Šๆ–นใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ โ€“ ็งใฎๆœฌใ‚’่ฒทใ†.ใใ‚Œใฏ็ฒ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใซๅŒนๆ•ตใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
28:14
Yeah, yeah. My book, but that's par for the course. Kevin,
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ใˆใˆใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚็งใฎๆœฌใงใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝ“็„ถใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใ€
28:17
what are some ideas maybe that you've had forโ€ฆ for future episodes? Someโ€ฆ some content
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ไปŠๅพŒใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?ใ„ใใคใ‹โ€ฆ
28:22
that you'd like to introduce. You do the idioms now, you do some grammar
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็ดนไป‹ใ—ใŸใ„ใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ€‚ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไปŠใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ ใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไปŠใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๆ–‡ๆณ•
28:27
episodes now. Any other avenues you'd like to pursue?
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ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™.ไป–ใซ่ฟฝๆฑ‚ใ—ใŸใ„้“ใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
28:33
Well, so I'm not really big into social media very much, but our third member, Xochitl,
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ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใฏใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใซใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Š่ˆˆๅ‘ณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็งใŸใกใฎ 3 ็•ช็›ฎใฎใƒกใƒณใƒใƒผใงใ‚ใ‚‹ Xochitl
28:38
who isn't here, unfortunately right now she's very into social media and she was saying
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ใฏใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใชใŒใ‚‰็พๅœจๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใซ
28:43
that she wants to start a TikTok for us. Oh, dear.
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ๅคขไธญใงใ€็งใŸใกใฎใŸใ‚ใซ TikTok ใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใพใ‚ใ€‚
28:47
Yeah, and I'm not into. Yeah, quick, tell Jack what TikTok is.
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28:50
It obviously has something to do with the clock, right?
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28:55
So I know. And I don't do TikTok. I don't do social media. So I want to leave that up
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏTikTokใ‚’ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚็งใฏใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ‚’ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ—ใŸใ„
29:00
to, but I was thinking I could still record videos and send that to her and she could
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ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€็งใฏใพใ ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’้Œฒ็”ปใ—ใฆๅฝผๅฅณใซ้€ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏ
29:05
upload them. And one thing that many of our listeners have
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ.ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฎๅคšใใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใฎ1ใค
29:09
said is that I speak very quickly. Right now, I'm trying to remember to speak slowly for
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29:16
all the listeners tonight. And so I was thinking it could be very fun
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ไปŠๅคœใ™ในใฆใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ‚†ใฃใใ‚Š่ฉฑใ™ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™. ใใ‚Œใงใ€
29:21
for me to record some Yongue Twister TikToks. That's oddities.
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Yongue Twister TikTok ใ‚’้Œฒ้Ÿณใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใงใ™ใ€‚
29:26
OK. Basically where you know 'cause, uh, TikTok
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใ€TikTok
29:28
is a short 10-20-thirty second video of me just doing some English tongue twisters as
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ใฏ 10 ๏ฝž 20 ็ง’ใฎ็Ÿญใ„ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใฎๆ—ฉๅฃ่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’
29:35
fast as possible and then challenging ourโ€ฆ our audience, our listeners toโ€ฆ to mimic
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ใงใใ‚‹ใ ใ‘้€Ÿใใ‚„ใฃใฆใ€็งใŸใกใฎโ€ฆ ็งใŸใกใฎ่ด่ก†ใ€็งใŸใกใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใซโ€ฆ
29:41
me. So I was thinking that could be fun.
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29:44
What? What would the first tick tock tongue twister video be then? I'm going to put you
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29:49
on the spot right now. Right, right now. Well, I mean, one that I
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29:52
always practiced as a kid, of course, is Robbie rubber baby buggy bumpers. It was a fun one.
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29:58
Or fuzzy wuzzy was a bear. Fuzzy wuzzy had no hair. Fuzzy wuzzy wasn't very fuzzy wuzzy,
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30:01
was he? Areโ€ฆ are very fun ones and I think it could
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30:05
be interesting 'cause every language has unique sounds.
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ใ™ในใฆใฎ่จ€่ชžใซใฏ็‹ฌ็‰นใฎ้ŸณใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใซใชใ‚‹
30:10
A nd in English we've got those Zs and the Vs, which I know other languages don't have.
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ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใซใฏ Z ใจ V ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ไป–ใฎ่จ€่ชžใซใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
30:15
And tongue twisters are a great way for people to practice pronunciation. I mean, I practiced
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ใพใŸใ€ๆ—ฉๅฃ่จ€่‘‰ใฏใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒ็™บ้Ÿณใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎๅ„ชใ‚ŒใŸๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใฏๅญไพ›ใฎ้ ƒใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใฎๆ—ฉๅฃ่จ€่‘‰
30:23
English tongue twisters when I was a kid. And it helped me in my English pronunciation.
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ใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžใฎ็™บ้Ÿณใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
30:29
It could help anyone as well. So if I could give examples of saying it slowly, kind of
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30:34
fast and then very fast, it could be fun for me, fun for them. And something that people
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30:39
couldโ€ฆ could copy. You mentioned uh. A Facebook page or a Facebook
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ใŒโ€ฆใ‚ณใƒ”ใƒผใงใใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ€‚ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใˆใˆใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๆ•ฐๅˆ†ๅ‰ ใฎ Facebook ใƒšใƒผใ‚ธใพใŸใฏ Facebook
30:45
group a few moments ago. Could you elaborate on that a little bit please?
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30:49
Yeah, so before Xochitl joined ourโ€ฆ our podcast team, I was kind of handling the social
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ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใงใ€Xochitl ใŒ็งใŸใกใฎโ€ฆ ็งใŸใกใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆ ใƒใƒผใƒ ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใฏใ€็งใฏใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ
30:58
media poorly, I would say. I did the best I could, but we do have a Facebook page called
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31:08
the A-Z. I'm sorry, I'll say that a little bit more slowly. The A-Z English podcast and
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ใ€AZ ใจใ„ใ† Facebook ใƒšใƒผใ‚ธใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ‚†ใฃใใ‚Š่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ AZ ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฐใƒชใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใจ
31:14
I try to upload all of our all of our videos like we have a video for, we have a YouTube
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็งใฏใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€YouTube ใƒใƒฃใƒณใƒใƒซ ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ™ในใฆใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„
31:22
channel. And we also, so we do make videos, but we don't put our actual video on
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Gotcha. Yeah. So some people like to listen on YouTube and
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31:33
that's aโ€ฆ a large segment of people that are just, you know, that just don't aren't
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31:38
into the podcast thing. And so we put that into Facebook as well. And, um, we Xochitel,wWe
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31:45
have an Instagram as well.
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Instagram ใ‚‚ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
31:47
Andโ€ฆ and our Twitter is not yet up and running. You know, I'm still waiting to see if Elon
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31:57
Musk purchases it or not before I decide. Sure, well if, if, he said, he would, he'd
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32:01
probably back out and, you know, maybe a couple of weeks later.
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32:04
Right, right. Iโ€ฆ I'll, I'll just wait. I'm, I'm holding off on that one.
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32:08
But yeah, so we'reโ€ฆ we're really trying to do more social media stuff. But you can
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32:14
watch or, sorry, you can listen to the podcast on Facebook, YouTube. Uhm, but I think the
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32:22
best places to go to our website and just stream it there. Because that's where the
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32:26
study guide is, so, yeah. But we're on all the major platforms, so you
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32:32
can find us on Apple Podcast. Spotify, Appleโ€ฆ
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ใ€Apple Podcast ใง็งใŸใกใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚นใƒใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚คใ€ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซโ€ฆ
32:34
You have Spotify, S titcher, all those. Very good. Alright. So give us the big sales
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32:39
pitch before we wrap up our conversation today. Why should a student of the English language
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32:45
listen to the A-Z English podcast? Kev, you're theโ€ฆ the com major with a masters
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ใŒ AZ English ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’่žใๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใชใœใงใ™ใ‹? Kevใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏโ€ฆ ไฟฎๅฃซๅทใ‚’ๆŒใฃใŸ com ใƒกใ‚ธใƒฃใƒผใงใ™
32:54
degree. Knock it out. So you should come and listen to A-Z because
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ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใƒŽใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚ขใ‚ฆใƒˆใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใช ใฎใงใ€AZ ใซๆฅใฆ่žใ„ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„
33:00
we love podcasting. We love what we do. We've been teaching for
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33:04
a really long time and we have a p retty good idea of how to share how to explain the ideas
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33:11
that we want. And we're here to listen to your ideas as well, and your comments and
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33:17
your feedback. So A-Z English is good practice for you to listen and to interact with us.
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33:25
And where else can you? Where else can you do that for free on the Internet?
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33:30
Right. As someone who's worked in media for a long
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33:33
time, I can tell when I'm listening to someone who is really into what they are doing and
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33:40
someone who is just kind of mailing it in and so to speak.
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33:47
Yes, so that said, when I listen toโ€ฆ to your podcast, the two of you with your partner,
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33:55
I can tell, I can hear it. You really, really enjoy what you're doing. And that is enough
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34:02
for me to make me want to listen to it. If Iโ€ฆ if you're into it, that's going to make
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34:07
your students into it. Andโ€ฆ andโ€ฆ andโ€ฆ that'sโ€ฆ and that's a good place to start.
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34:11
So well done. Congratulations on the three months that you've done.
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34:14
Thanks, Steve. So far, yeah.
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34:15
Thank you very much. Absolute ly.
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34:17
Jack McBain and Kevin Mitchell. You can find their podcast A to Z English podcast. So that's
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34:22
atozenglishpodcast.com, right? And that's all one word put together?
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34:28
That's right. Yeah, very good. You can also use that as
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34:33
a kind of a doorway over to their Facebook group. You can join that. You can also joinโ€ฆwhat
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34:39
am I missing here? The WhatsApp group Link is right there on
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ใ“ใ“ใงไฝ•ใŒๆฌ ใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹? WhatsAppใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚‚
34:43
the website as well. Perfect, so just go to the website and all
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ใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒ–ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™.ๅฎŒ็’งใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒ–ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ€
34:46
the information you need is right there. One stop shop.
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ๅฟ…่ฆใชใ™ในใฆใฎๆƒ…ๅ ฑใŒใ™ใใใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใƒฏใƒณใ‚นใƒˆใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ€‚
34:49
Fantastic. Once again atozenglishpodcast.com. Jack McBain and Kevin Mitchell, thank you
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34:54
so much for joining me on Speak English fluently. And once again, congratulations on your success
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ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒปใƒžใ‚ฏใƒ™ใ‚คใƒณใจใ‚ฑใƒ“ใƒณใƒปใƒŸใƒƒใƒใ‚งใƒซใ€ ๆตๆšขใซ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’่ฉฑใ™ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฆ ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ† . ๆ”นใ‚ใฆใ€
34:59
so far and I wish you nothing but more success in the future.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใพใงใฎใ”ๆˆๅŠŸใซใŠ็ฅใ„็”ณใ—ไธŠใ’ใพใ™ใจใจใ‚‚ใซใ€ไปŠๅพŒใพใ™ใพใ™ใฎใ”ๆดป่บใ‚’ใŠ็ฅˆใ‚Š็”ณใ—ไธŠใ’ใพใ™ใ€‚
35:04
Oh, that's great. Thank you very much, Steve. Awesome, guys.
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35:06
Yeah. Thanks for having us. Have a great night. Bye, bye.
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35:15
OK. Bye.
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