Games with Luke's English Podcast - Advanced Listening Practice

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listening resource for intermediate and advanced level English learners.

mapagkukunan sa pakikinig para sa mga intermediate at advanced na antas ng English learners.

Today is a very special episode as we are joined by one of my favourite

Napakaespesyal na episode ngayon dahil kasama namin ang isa sa mga paborito kong

guests, Luke from Luke's English Podcast, which is an incredible podcast

bisita, si Luke mula sa English Podcast ni Luke, na isang hindi kapani-paniwalang podcast

that you should all have a listen to.

na dapat pakinggan ninyong lahat.

So in today's podcast, we are going to deep dive into a much

Kaya't sa podcast ngayon, sumisid kami nang malalim sa isang

loved British pastime, board games.

paboritong palipasan ng British, mga board game.

It's gonna be fun.

Magiging masaya.

Without further ado, let's roll.

Nang walang karagdagang ado, gumulong tayo.

What do you do when you are with company, say your family or your friends, and

Ano ang ginagawa mo kapag kasama mo ang iyong mga kaibigan, sabihin ang iyong pamilya o mga kaibigan, at

the conversation has begun to dry up and you are feeling a little bit bored?

ang pag-uusap ay nagsimulang matuyo at ikaw ay nakakaramdam ng kaunting pagkabagot?

Well, you may decide to rummage around in the cupboard, to dig out and dust

Buweno, maaari kang magpasya na maghalungkat sa aparador, maghukay at mag-

off a board game to pass the time.

alis ng alikabok sa isang board game upang magpalipas ng oras.

In the UK, dice rolling, card shuffling, and arguing about who's

Sa UK, ang dice rolling, card shuffling, at pagtatalo tungkol sa kung sino ang

cheating is a much loved pastime.

nanloloko ay isang paboritong libangan.

And here for a second time to discuss the ins and outs, the ups and downs of board

At narito sa pangalawang pagkakataon upang talakayin ang mga pasikot-sikot, ang mga tagumpay at kabiguan ng mga board

games is Luke from Luke's English Podcast.

game ay si Luke mula sa English Podcast ni Luke.

Welcome back Luke.

Maligayang pagbabalik Luke.

Luke: Hi Anna.

Luke: Hi Anna.

Thanks for having me back.

Salamat sa pagbabalik sa akin.

Anna: Oh, thank you for returning.

Anna: Ay, salamat sa pagbabalik.

I haven't scared you off that's the important thing.

Hindi kita tinakot iyon ang mahalaga.

Luke: No, this is a great topic.

Luke: Hindi, ito ay isang magandang paksa.

Yeah, I love board games.

Oo, mahilig ako sa mga board game.

Anna: You do.

Anna: Ikaw kaya.

You have a big love of Monopoly.

Malaki ang pagmamahal mo sa Monopoly.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo. Kaya napag-usapan lang namin ang tungkol sa Monopoly nang medyo mahaba sa aking palabas, nag-usap kami ng higit sa isang oras

So we just talked about Monopoly at some length on my show, we did over an hour's

worth of conversation only about Monopoly.

na pag-uusap lamang tungkol sa Monopoly.

Anna: Yeah.

Who would've thought there was so much to say about the game?

Anna: Oo.

Sinong mag-aakala na napakaraming masasabi tungkol sa laro?

Luke: Well, yeah.

Luke: Oo naman.

It is actually a fascinating game, as we've just discussed with all of

Ito ay talagang isang kamangha-manghang laro, dahil tinalakay natin ang lahat ng

the different strategies, the sort of statistics, the mathematics, the politics,

iba't ibang mga diskarte, ang uri ng mga istatistika, matematika, pulitika,

the things it says about society and yeah, all the things we are getting

ang mga bagay na sinasabi nito tungkol sa lipunan at oo, lahat ng mga bagay na nagkakamali tayo

wrong, that everyone gets wrong when they play it, and all those other things.

, na ang lahat nagkakamali kapag nilalaro nila ito, at lahat ng iba pang bagay.

Anna: A really important strategy that I think we've taken away from

Anna: Isang talagang mahalagang diskarte na sa tingin ko ay inalis namin sa

that particular episode that anyone who's interested in Monopoly should

partikular na episode na iyon na sinumang interesado sa Monopoly ay dapat

definitely go and listen to the episode just to learn the strategy, if not to

talagang pumunta at makinig sa episode para lang matutunan ang diskarte, kung hindi para

learn lots of fabulous English phrases.

matuto ng maraming kamangha-manghang mga parirala sa Ingles.

Luke: Yeah, absolutely.

Luke: Oo, talagang.

Yeah.

Oo.

Anna: I'll put a link in the description so everyone can check that out later.

Anna: Maglalagay ako ng link sa paglalarawan para masuri iyon ng lahat mamaya.

But do you play lots of games?

Ngunit naglalaro ka ba ng maraming laro?

Do you have a game cupboard in your house?

Mayroon ka bang aparador ng laro sa iyong bahay?

Luke: Yeah, we do.

Luke: Oo, ginagawa namin.

So we've got, like the sort of bottom compartment of a cupboard in

Kaya nakuha namin, tulad ng uri ng ilalim na kompartimento ng isang aparador sa

my daughter's bedroom has got all the board games stuffed into it.

silid-tulugan ng aking anak na babae ay pinalamanan ang lahat ng mga board game dito.

So yeah, we definitely have a games cupboard.

Kaya oo, tiyak na mayroon kaming aparador ng mga laro.

Back in my childhood home, when I was growing up, in my parents'

Bumalik sa aking tahanan ng pagkabata, noong ako ay lumalaki, sa

house, we had a kind of a wooden box.

bahay ng aking mga magulang, mayroon kaming isang uri ng isang kahon na gawa sa kahoy.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: And we would open up the wooden kind of a chest, and that was full of

Anna: Oo.

Luke: At bubuksan namin ang kahoy na uri ng isang dibdib, at iyon ay puno ng

all the different games and things, some of which have survived, including that

lahat ng iba't ibang mga laro at mga bagay, ang ilan ay nakaligtas, kabilang ang

old monopoly set and various others.

lumang monopolyong set at iba't iba pa.

So, yeah.

Kaya, oo.

Yeah.

Oo.

Anna: So we have a couple of spaces in our house where we keep our games

Anna: Kaya mayroon kaming dalawang puwang sa aming bahay kung saan itinatago namin ang aming mga laro

because I've, you know, got two young children and it is possibly the same...

dahil alam mo, mayroon akong dalawang maliliit na anak at posibleng pareho ito...

you said yours is in your daughter's bedroom.

sinabi mo na ang sa iyo ay nasa kwarto ng iyong anak na babae.

I mean, the risk there, 'cause I think your daughter's quite young, the risk

Ibig kong sabihin, ang panganib doon, dahil sa tingin ko ang iyong anak na babae ay medyo bata pa, ang panganib

there is that they might take them out when they're exploring one day and you're

doon ay na maaari nilang ilabas sila kapag nag-explore sila isang araw at

not looking, and then you find that there are lots of pieces missing or shoved into

hindi ka tumitingin, at pagkatapos ay makikita mo na mayroong maraming mga piraso nawawala o itinulak sa

lots of different places all mixed up.

maraming iba't ibang lugar na magkakahalo.

So we have been separating our stuff for a while, with the

Kaya't matagal na naming pinaghihiwalay ang aming mga gamit, na ang

majority of the games accessible in the kind of kiddie's play area.

karamihan sa mga laro ay naa-access sa uri ng play area ng bata.

We have those IKEA cupboards, you know, there's the, I think

Mayroon kaming mga aparador ng IKEA, alam mo, nandiyan ang, sa tingin ko

they're called Kallax or something.

ay tinatawag silang Kallax o isang bagay.

There's like, everyone has one of these cupboards in the UK if they

Mayroong tulad ng, lahat ay may isa sa mga aparador na ito sa UK kung sila ay

shop at IKEA for any furniture, they all have these Kallax units.

mamili sa IKEA para sa anumang kasangkapan, lahat sila ay may ganitong mga Kallax unit.

And we've got about five of them around the house.

At mayroon kaming halos lima sa kanila sa paligid ng bahay.

So we just fill one of those with the accessible games that we don't mind

Kaya pinupunan na lang namin ang isa sa mga naa-access na laro na hindi namin alintana

the children just grabbing at will.

ang mga bata na mang-aagaw lang sa gusto.

And then we have an inaccessible cupboard that has all the more advanced games,

At pagkatapos ay mayroon kaming isang hindi naa-access na aparador na mayroong lahat ng mas advanced na mga laro,

like the chess sets and things like that.

tulad ng mga set ng chess at mga bagay na katulad niyan.

Luke: Right.

Luke: Tama.

Anna: And the jigsaw puzzles.

Anna: At ang mga jigsaw puzzle.

I'm a big fan of jigsaws.

Isa akong malaking fan ng jigsaws.

How about you?

Luke: Oh, yeah, yeah.

ikaw naman?

Luke: Ay, oo, oo.

I love a jigsaw, and of course it's very good that you keep the jigsaw puzzles

Gustung-gusto ko ang isang lagari, at siyempre napakahusay na ilayo mo ang mga puzzle

away from the little kids because you cannot let any of those pieces go missing.

mula sa maliliit na bata dahil hindi mo hahayaang mawala ang alinman sa mga pirasong iyon.

Anna: No.

Luke: Because if you try and do a jigsaw and there's one piece missing, then ah,

Anna: Hindi. Luke: Dahil kung susubukan mong mag-jigsaw at may kulang na isang piraso, ah,

that's the worst thing in the world.

iyon ang pinakamasamang bagay sa mundo.

Anna: Yeah, yeah.

Luke: A 1000-piece jigsaw has to be complete and if you put all that time into

Anna: Oo, oo.

Luke: Ang isang 1000-piraso na jigsaw ay kailangang kumpleto at kung ilalaan mo ang lahat ng oras na iyon sa

doing it, and then at the end there's just one missing piece, it really ruins it.

paggawa nito, at pagkatapos ay may isang nawawalang piraso na lang, talagang nasisira ito.

But yeah, I do like a jigsaw.

Pero oo, gusto ko ng jigsaw.

They, you know, it forces you to slow down and take the time to just

Sila, alam mo, pinipilit ka nitong pabagalin at maglaan ng oras upang

focus on building that picture.

tumuon lamang sa pagbuo ng larawang iyon.

And there are strategies involved as well in jigsaws.

At may mga diskarte na kasangkot pati na rin sa jigsaws.

Anna: How do you do your jigsaws?

Anna: Paano mo ginagawa ang iyong mga lagari?

Luke: So you find all the edge pieces first, obviously.

Luke: Kaya hanapin mo muna ang lahat ng mga piraso ng gilid, malinaw naman.

Anna: Of course.

Anna: Oo naman.

Luke: Corner pieces are vital and then edges.

Luke: Ang mga piraso ng sulok ay mahalaga at pagkatapos ay mga gilid.

And then, well, you just do your best from there, don't you really?

At saka, well, you just do your best from there, hindi ba?

Anna: Do you look at the picture?

Anna: Nakikita mo ba ang larawan?

Luke: Oh yeah, of course.

Luke: Ay oo naman.

Anna: Ah, see, the most fun is to spend about 60 seconds, before you

Anna: Ah, tingnan mo, ang pinaka-masaya ay gumugol ng mga 60 segundo, bago ka

start, studying the picture, and then you never look at it again.

magsimula, pag-aralan ang larawan, at pagkatapos ay hindi mo na muling titingnan ito.

Luke: Oh my God.

Luke: Diyos ko.

But that's too difficult, surely.

Ngunit iyon ay masyadong mahirap, tiyak.

Anna: Well, if you...

Anna: Well, kung ikaw...

it depends on the jigsaw.

depende sa jigsaw.

We once did a jigsaw of the Rosetta Stone, and actually, I think that's

Minsan na kaming nag-jigsaw ng Rosetta Stone, and actually, I think that's

the one jigsaw that defeated us.

the one jigsaw that defeated us.

We had to first look at the picture and even then we couldn't get it.

Kailangan muna naming tingnan ang larawan at kahit na hindi namin ito makuha.

So we ended up putting that one away.

Kaya tinapos namin ang isang iyon.

But often we will just study the picture initially and then put it

Ngunit kadalasan ay pag-aaralan lang natin ang larawan sa simula at pagkatapos ay itabi ito

away and then try and figure it out without ever looking at the picture.

at pagkatapos ay subukan at alamin ito nang hindi tinitingnan ang larawan.

It does take a long time.

Ito ay tumatagal ng mahabang panahon.

It will often take maybe a week or two, which now, because we've got

Madalas aabutin siguro ng isang linggo o dalawa, na ngayon, dahil nasa amin na

the kids, we can't just leave it out on the table 'cause the kids

ang mga bata, hindi na lang namin maiiwan sa mesa 'pag ang mga bata ay

will be like, "oh, what's this?

masasabing, "oh, ano ito?

I help, I help."

I help, I tulong."

Putting them everywhere.

Inilalagay ang mga ito sa lahat ng dako.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: But we did just buy one of these mats.

Anna: Pero binili lang namin ang isa sa mga banig na ito.

And, sorry, this is jigsaws.

At, paumanhin, ito ay mga jigsaw.

This is completely off topic, but anyway, we bought one of these

Ito ay ganap na wala sa paksa, ngunit gayon pa man, bumili kami ng isa sa

mats that you can roll up with a big inflatable like sausage.

mga banig na ito na maaari mong igulong gamit ang isang malaking inflatable tulad ng sausage.

You lay the jigsaw out on the mat, and then when you finished for that

Inilatag mo ang jigsaw sa banig, at pagkatapos ay kapag natapos mo na ang

session, you just roll it very carefully around this inflatable sausage.

session na iyon, iikot mo lang ito nang maingat sa paligid ng inflatable sausage na ito.

And then just tie it off.

At pagkatapos ay itali lamang ito.

And then you can travel with it, take it with you, unroll it somewhere else.

At pagkatapos ay maaari kang maglakbay kasama ito, dalhin ito sa iyo, i-unroll ito sa ibang lugar.

Luke: Right.

Luke: Tama.

So you're not restricted to just doing the jigsaw in this one location.

Kaya hindi ka limitado sa paggawa lamang ng jigsaw sa isang lokasyong ito.

Yeah.

Anna: Exactly.

Oo. Anna: Sakto.

But for us, it's a protection thing to get it away from the kids.

Ngunit para sa amin, ito ay isang bagay na proteksyon upang ilayo ito sa mga bata.

Luke: Very good.

Luke: Napakabuti.

Very smart move.

Napaka matalinong galaw.

Yeah,

Oo,

Anna: We would never buy jigsaws from a charity shop, as well.

Anna: Hindi rin kami bibili ng mga jigsaw sa isang charity shop.

Like we have a little jigsaw club in my group of friends

Tulad ng mayroon kaming isang maliit na jigsaw club sa aking grupo ng mga kaibigan

locally and we swap jigsaws.

sa lokal at kami ay nagpapalitan ng mga jigsaw.

So we're always on the lookout for good jigsaws in different,

Kaya palagi kaming naghahanap ng magagandang jigsaw sa iba't ibang lugar,

like garden centres and shops.

tulad ng mga sentro ng hardin at tindahan.

But I would never buy from a charity shop because you can't guarantee if it's a

Ngunit hinding-hindi ako bibili sa isang charity shop dahil hindi mo magagarantiya kung ito ay isang

complete jigsaw, and I'm sure the charity shop don't say, "Hey Vera, can you just

kumpletong lagari, at sigurado akong ang charity shop ay hindi nagsasabi, "Hoy Vera, maaari mo bang

complete the puzzle and make sure it's complete before we put it for sale?"

kumpletuhin ang puzzle at siguraduhing kumpleto ito bago. ibinebenta natin?"

But I did break my rule when recently visiting the charity shop to reward my

Ngunit nilabag ko ang aking panuntunan nang bumisita kamakailan sa charity shop upang gantimpalaan ang aking

boys who had slept through the night for five consecutive nights, got their

mga anak na natulog sa buong gabi sa loob ng limang magkakasunod na gabi, na nakuha ang kanilang

little stars on their star chart, and I said, okay, five stars you can go

maliliit na bituin sa kanilang star chart, at sinabi ko, okay, limang bituin maaari kang pumunta

to the charity shop and pick anything.

sa kawanggawa mamili at pumili ng kahit ano.

And while we were there, I saw a jigsaw, which was a map of the world, and I

At habang nandoon kami, nakakita ako ng isang jigsaw, na isang mapa ng mundo, at

thought, it's a little bit old for them at the moment, but wouldn't this be a

naisip ko, medyo luma na ito para sa kanila sa sandaling ito, ngunit hindi ba ito ay isang

great thing to help teach them geography?

magandang bagay upang makatulong na turuan sila ng heograpiya?

So we bought it and broke it out with them.

Kaya binili namin ito at sinira ito sa kanila.

We did it on the floor.

Ginawa namin ito sa sahig.

The hardest jigsaw I think I've ever done.

Ang pinakamahirap na jigsaw na sa tingin ko ay nagawa ko.

I had to actually look at the picture, because it's not a typical jigsaw shape.

Kinailangan kong tingnan talaga ang larawan, dahil hindi ito isang tipikal na hugis ng jigsaw.

All the pieces are only the shape of the countries.

Ang lahat ng mga piraso ay hugis lamang ng mga bansa.

Luke: Ah, I see.

Luke: Ah, nakikita ko.

Anna: And so when you get to like Africa...

Anna: At kaya kapag nagustuhan mo ang Africa...

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: And there's all these teeny, tiny little, you know,

Anna: At nariyan ang lahat ng maliliit, maliit na maliit, alam mo,

countries, all fit together.

mga bansa, lahat ay magkasya.

Luke: A lot of them are straight lines as well in Africa, in

Luke: Marami sa kanila ay mga tuwid na linya din sa Africa, sa

the central parts of Africa.

gitnang bahagi ng Africa.

Yeah.

Anna: It was so hard.

Oo. Anna: Napakahirap noon.

So hard.

Napaka tigas.

It is really good.

Ito ay talagang mabuti.

I mean, it was teaching me a thing or two about where places are.

Ibig kong sabihin, ito ay nagtuturo sa akin ng isa o dalawang bagay tungkol sa kung nasaan ang mga lugar.

It makes you realise like, oh, I know where this place is.

It makes you realize like, oh, I know where this place is.

No, I actually don't.

Hindi, sa totoo lang ay hindi.

I've got no idea.

Wala akong ideya.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Yeah.

My parents have got the same thing, but for all the counties in...

Oo. Ang aking mga magulang ay may parehong bagay, ngunit para sa lahat ng mga county sa...

Anna: Right.

Luke: In, I think it's only in England, just the English counties.

Anna: Tama.

Luke: Sa, tingin ko sa England lang, sa English county lang.

And yeah, that's surprisingly difficult as well because you kind of think

At oo, nakakagulat na mahirap din dahil sa tingin mo ay

you know them, but that's very hard.

kilala mo sila, ngunit iyon ay napakahirap.

Anna: I'm terrible at geography.

Anna: Grabe ako sa geography.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Absolutely terrible.

Anna: Grabe talaga.

So I wouldn't be able to do that.

Kaya hindi ko magagawa iyon.

And the globe one ended up me, just me on the floor.

At tinapos ako ng globe, ako lang sa sahig.

The kids got bored, and so they were off doing their Play-Doh or whatever it was.

Nainis ang mga bata, at kaya nila ginawa ang kanilang Play-Doh o kung ano man iyon.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: And I'm there doing this jigsaw on my own, on the floor and

Luke: Oo. Anna: At doon ko ginagawa itong jigsaw sa aking sarili, sa sahig at

there were three pieces missing at the end, and I was just devastated.

may tatlong piraso na nawawala sa dulo, at ako ay nawasak.

But it turned out, They weren't missing, they were under the rug.

Ngunit ito pala, Hindi sila nawawala, nasa ilalim sila ng alpombra.

The boys had helped me by stuffing them under the rug.

Tinulungan ako ng mga lalaki sa pamamagitan ng pagpupuno sa kanila sa ilalim ng alpombra.

Luke: Right, yeah.

Luke: Tama, oo.

That's the thing with jigsaws, you've gotta watch out for all the pieces.

Iyan ang bagay sa mga jigsaw, kailangan mong mag-ingat sa lahat ng mga piraso.

But I do love jigsaws.

Pero mahilig ako sa jigsaw.

I love doing jigsaws of maps, but I will look at the picture.

Gustung-gusto kong gumawa ng mga jigsaw ng mga mapa, ngunit titingnan ko ang larawan.

You know, I don't consider that to be cheating 'cause ultimately if I

Alam mo, hindi ko itinuturing na panloloko 'yan dahil sa huli kung

was doing it without looking at the picture, I would have a horrible time.

ginagawa ko ito nang hindi tinitingnan ang larawan, magkakaroon ako ng kakila-kilabot na oras.

So why make life difficult for yourself, you know?

Kaya bakit pahihirapan ang iyong buhay, alam mo ba?

Anna: Well, you should try it.

Anna: Well, dapat mong subukan ito.

Luke: I suppose so.

Luke: Sa palagay ko.

Anna: I challenge you.

Don't take a really hard picture that's just like clouds or waves.

Anna: Hinahamon kita.

Huwag kumuha ng matigas na larawan na parang mga ulap o alon.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: Or trees.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: O mga puno.

Rose bushes.

Mga palumpong ng rosas.

Just, you know, take something that's a mixture of things that you can figure out.

Basta, alam mo, kumuha ng isang bagay na pinaghalong mga bagay na maaari mong malaman.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: You know, I think it's fun.

Anna: Alam mo, sa tingin ko ito ay masaya.

Luke: Jigsaws with lots and lots of little details are great.

Luke: Ang mga lagari na may maraming at maraming maliliit na detalye ay mahusay.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Like one of my favourites is the Beatles Sergeant Pepper album cover.

Anna: Mm-hmm. Luke: Tulad ng isa sa mga paborito ko ay ang cover ng album ng Beatles Sergeant Pepper.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: Because every single portion of that picture has got

Anna: Oo. Luke: Dahil ang bawat bahagi ng larawang iyon ay may

something interesting in it.

kawili-wiling bagay.

Alexa: Someone's at the front door.

Anna: Sorry, Alexa is so rude.

Alexa: May tao sa front door.

Anna: Sorry, napakasungit ni Alexa.

Luke: You are being interrupted by Alexa.

Luke: Iniistorbo ka ni Alexa.

Anna: She always does this.

Anna: Lagi niyang ginagawa ito.

Luke: What's Alexa saying to you?

Luke: Anong sinasabi sayo ni Alexa?

Anna: Someone's at the front door.

Anna: May tao sa harap ng pinto.

Bing bong.

Bing bong.

Luke: This happened to us last time, Anna.

Luke: Nangyari ito sa atin noong nakaraan, Anna.

Anna: It always happens.

I've unplugged her.

Anna: Laging nangyayari.

Tinanggal ko na siya sa plug.

Luke: Alexa is so helpful and yet unhelpful at the same time.

Luke: Si Alexa ay matulungin at hindi pa rin nakakatulong sa parehong oras.

Anna: So, what was I talking about?

Anna: So, anong pinagsasasabi ko?

I was doing a podcast when I was talking about how a lot of English words come from

Gumagawa ako ng podcast noong pinag-uusapan ko kung paano nagmula ang maraming salitang Ingles sa

Arabic or have a relationship to Arabic.

Arabic o may kaugnayan sa Arabic.

And I was going through the list and one of the words was elixir, an

At dinadaanan ko ang listahan at isa sa mga salita ay elixir, isang

elixir and she kept coming on going,

elixir at patuloy pa rin siya sa pagpunta,

"I'm sorry, I don't know that one right now."

"I'm sorry, hindi ko alam ang isang iyon sa ngayon."

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: I'm not talking to you!

Luke: Oo.

Anna: Hindi kita kinakausap!

Luke: I'll be teaching in class in, you know, in English lessons and I say

Luke: Magtuturo ako sa klase sa, alam mo, sa English lessons at may sasabihin ako

something that sounds like Hey, Siri.

na parang Hey, Siri.

Oh!

Oh!

Anna: There we go.

Anna: Ayan na tayo.

Luke: Not talking to you now, doing a podcast.

Luke: Hindi kita kinakausap ngayon, gumagawa ng podcast.

Siri: Okay.

Siri: Okay.

Luke: Okay, says Siri.

Luke: Okay, sabi ni Siri.

Anna: Brilliant.

Luke: Alright.

Anna: Magaling.

Luke: Sige.

And I'll say something that sounds like that and, and Siri steps in and

At sasabihin ko ang isang bagay na parang ganoon at, at pumasok si Siri at

says, "I'm sorry, I can't find that.

sinabing, "Paumanhin, hindi ko mahanap iyon.

Here are some results from the internet", or something like that.

Narito ang ilang mga resulta mula sa internet", o isang katulad nito.

It's always a hilarious moment.

Ito ay palaging isang masayang-maingay na sandali.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo.

It's so rude.

It's so rude.

Napaka bastos.

Napaka bastos.

Someone should teach them some manners.

Dapat may magturo sa kanila ng ilang asal.

Okay, so, jigsaws fantastic, but...

Okay, kaya, hindi kapani-paniwala ang mga jigsaw, ngunit...

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: What's your default, what's your go-to game when you're, say,

Luke: Oo.

Anna: Ano ang iyong default, ano ang iyong laro kapag ikaw ay, sabihin nating,

with your family or your friends?

kasama ang iyong pamilya o ang iyong mga kaibigan?

Luke: Well, obviously Monopoly, as we've said.

Luke: Well, maliwanag na Monopoly, gaya ng sinabi namin.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: But other ones, Scrabble is a bit of a favourite, oh it's a tough one.

Anna: Oo. Luke: Pero yung iba, medyo paborito ang Scrabble, oh ang hirap.

You know.

Alam mo.

Anna: What, Scrabble's a tough one?

Anna: Ano, mahirap ang Scrabble?

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: Or the question's tough?

Luke: Oo. Anna: O mahirap ang tanong?

Luke: Scrabble is, well, both the question is tough because there are

Luke: Ang Scrabble ay, mabuti, parehong mahirap ang tanong dahil maraming

many games I could talk about, but I realise there are only a certain number

laro ang maaari kong pag-usapan, ngunit napagtanto kong may ilang

of minutes that we can do this for.

minuto lang na magagawa natin ito.

But I mean, you know, we could do an hour on each game.

Ngunit ang ibig kong sabihin, alam mo, maaari tayong gumawa ng isang oras sa bawat laro.

Anna: Why is Scrabble tough for you?

Anna: Bakit matigas ang Scrabble para sa iyo?

Luke: Well, it's just, you know, words innit?

Luke: Well, it's just, you know, words innit?

You know, just like, ahh...

Alam mo, parang, ahh...

Anna: English words?

Anna: English words?

Luke: English words, spelling.

Luke: English words, spelling.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: But it's tough because I'm competing against, probably my mum and dad.

Anna: Oo.

Luke: Pero mahirap kasi kalaban ko malamang mama at papa ko.

And my wife, now she is French, but she's so good at Scrabble

At ang asawa ko, French na siya ngayon, pero sobrang galing niya sa Scrabble

in English, it's frightening.

sa English, nakakatakot.

Yeah, I'm so ashamed of myself when I play against her and, and lose.

Oo, nahihiya ako sa sarili ko kapag nakikipaglaro ako sa kanya at, at natatalo.

I mean, you know, I suppose I shouldn't be, I should just be

Ibig kong sabihin, alam mo, sa palagay ko ay hindi dapat, dapat kong

proud of my wife for being so good at Scrabble in a second language.

ipagmalaki ang aking asawa sa pagiging mahusay sa Scrabble sa pangalawang wika.

We were on holiday in Brittany recently, and there was a Scrabble set in the room.

Nagbakasyon kami sa Brittany kamakailan, at may Scrabble set sa kwarto.

And it was a French Scrabble set.

At ito ay isang French Scrabble set.

Anna: Ah.

Luke: You might think, well, the alphabet's the same, but like the number

Anna: Ah.

Luke: Baka isipin mo, pare-pareho ang alpabeto, pero tulad ng bilang

of letters is, you know, the arrangement, the number of each letter is different.

ng mga letra, alam mo, ang pagkakaayos, ang bilang ng bawat titik ay iba.

And in a French Scrabble set, just so many vowels, just,

At sa isang French Scrabble set, napakaraming vowel, basta,

it's just like too many vowels.

parang napakaraming vowel.

'cause you know, in French spelling, they use a lot more vowels.

'cause you know, sa French spelling, mas maraming vowel ang ginagamit nila.

Anna: Do you have the ones with the, the little, um...

Anna: Meron ka bang may, yung maliit, um...

Luke: Accents?

Luke: Accents?

No, there are no accents.

Hindi, walang mga accent.

They don't do accents, 'cause that would be too complicated.

Hindi sila gumagawa ng mga accent, 'cause that would be too complicated.

But no, just, just way more vowels.

Pero hindi, basta, mas maraming patinig.

So I'm just like picking out my letters.

Kaya parang pinipili ko na lang ang mga sulat ko.

Just like, okay, E O U E.

Tulad ng, okay, EOU E.

Just O's U's and E's like millions of E's, and O'S and U's.

Just O's U's at E's tulad ng milyon-milyong E's, at O'S at U's.

So that was complicated.

Kaya naging kumplikado iyon.

And of course, you know, we, I was like, oh, there's a Scrabble set here.

At siyempre, alam mo, kami, parang, oh, may Scrabble set dito.

And my wife's like, should we play in English or French?

At tulad ng asawa ko, dapat ba tayong maglaro sa Ingles o Pranses?

And you know, just, you know, it's sometimes hard for me to win in English.

At alam mo, basta, alam mo, minsan mahirap para sa akin na manalo sa Ingles.

Yeah.

So there's really no chance of being able to win in French.

Oo. Kaya wala talagang chance na manalo sa French.

But it's still a great game.

Ngunit ito ay isang mahusay na laro.

I do love like trying to find like the, it's not just about

Gustung-gusto ko ang paghahanap ng tulad ng, hindi lang ito tungkol sa

finding the long words, but finding clever ways to use little words,

paghahanap ng mahahabang salita, ngunit paghahanap ng matatalinong paraan upang gumamit ng maliliit na salita,

but maximise the extra points.

ngunit i-maximize ang mga karagdagang puntos.

You know, if someone's put down a word with a Q in it or an X or something

Alam mo, kung ang isang tao ay naglagay ng isang salita na may Q sa loob nito o isang X o isang katulad na

like that, you can find a way to incorporate that X and get a triple

, maaari kang makahanap ng isang paraan upang isama ang X na iyon at makakuha ng isang triple

and land on a double at the same time.

at mapunta sa isang double sa parehong oras.

And then you can get a massive score if you're clever enough.

At pagkatapos ay maaari kang makakuha ng isang napakalaking marka kung ikaw ay sapat na matalino.

Anna: And if you struggle with spelling, 'cause I am really

Anna: At kung nahihirapan ka sa spelling, dahil hindi talaga ako

not very good at spelling.

magaling sa spelling.

I've improved a lot since teaching because I'm always looking at

Marami akong napabuti mula nang magturo dahil palagi akong tumitingin

and writing out notes and looking at words and teaching them.

at nagsusulat ng mga tala at tumitingin sa mga salita at nagtuturo sa kanila.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: But I'm dyslexic, so spelling has always been a bit of a weak point.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Ngunit ako ay may dyslexic, kaya ang pagbabaybay ay palaging isang mahinang punto.

And I think I've often hidden behind that as an excuse.

At sa tingin ko, madalas akong nagtago sa likod niyan bilang dahilan.

Oh, I'm dyslexic, so I'm not gonna worry too much about it.

Oh, dyslexic ako, kaya hindi ako mag-aalala tungkol dito.

But as a teacher, you try and hold yourself to account a bit more.

Ngunit bilang isang guro, sinusubukan mong hawakan ang iyong sarili na mag-account pa.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: And make sure what you're putting out is good.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: At siguraduhin mong maganda ang inilalabas mo.

So I think I've learned a lot with that.

Kaya sa palagay ko marami akong natutunan dito.

So I think maybe I'll be better at Scrabble now than I used to be.

Kaya sa tingin ko siguro mas magaling ako sa Scrabble ngayon kaysa dati.

But you can get Junior Scrabble, can't you?

Ngunit maaari kang makakuha ng Junior Scrabble, hindi ba?

So if you're an English learner, maybe Scrabble would be a

Kaya kung ikaw ay isang English learner, marahil ang Scrabble ay magiging isang

good game for you to play.

magandang laro para sa iyo upang laruin.

Luke: Sure.

Anna: To help with your English.

Luke: Oo naman. Anna: Para makatulong sa English mo.

Luke: Absolutely.

Luke: Talagang.

Anna: But perhaps a Junior Scrabble board initially would be good.

Anna: Ngunit marahil ang isang Junior Scrabble board sa una ay magiging mabuti.

Luke: Yeah, yeah.

Luke: Oo, oo.

Absolutely.

Talagang.

Yeah.

All those things.

Oo. Lahat ng mga bagay na iyon.

I mean, board games for learning English, a hundred percent.

Ibig kong sabihin, ang mga board game para sa pag-aaral ng Ingles, isang daang porsyento.

Great idea.

Mahusay na ideya.

'Cause, you know, it is basically a scenario in which you often have to use

Dahil, alam mo, ito ay karaniwang isang senaryo kung saan madalas mong kailangang gamitin

language in order to complete the game.

wika upang makumpleto ang laro.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: It essentially takes away the need for forced social interaction.

Luke: Ito ay mahalagang inaalis ang pangangailangan para sa sapilitang pakikipag-ugnayan sa lipunan.

It's a great social lubricant, which is exactly what you need to practise English.

Ito ay isang mahusay na social lubricant, na kung ano mismo ang kailangan mo upang magsanay ng Ingles.

You know, you don't have to be like, oh and what we're gonna talk

Alam mo, hindi mo kailangang maging tulad, oh at kung ano ang pag-uusapan natin

about now, you know, it's all there.

ngayon, alam mo, nandoon na ang lahat.

You just have to play the game and you will be encouraged to use language.

Kailangan mo lang maglaro at mahikayat kang gumamit ng wika.

Some games involve language like Scrabble, for example, or some others and some games

Ang ilang mga laro ay nagsasangkot ng wika tulad ng Scrabble, halimbawa, o ilang iba pa at ang ilang mga laro ay

also just encourage you to use language to achieve the outcome of the game.

hinihikayat ka lang na gumamit ng wika upang makamit ang kinalabasan ng laro.

Like for example, if you have to negotiate in Monopoly for something, you know, for

Tulad ng halimbawa, kung kailangan mong makipag-ayos sa Monopoly para sa isang bagay, alam mo, halimbawa

example, that can be really good practice.

, iyon ay maaaring maging talagang mahusay na kasanayan.

So yeah, I should give a shout out to another teacher called Zdenek,

Kaya oo, dapat kong isigaw ang isa pang guro na tinatawag na Zdenek,

uh, Zdenek Lukas from the Czech Republic, who has been doing a

uh, Zdenek Lukas mula sa Czech Republic, na gumagawa ng

podcast in English for many years.

podcast sa Ingles sa loob ng maraming taon.

And he likes to use board games as well.

At mahilig din siyang gumamit ng mga board game.

He's kind of a huge board game enthusiast, and he has a Discord

Isa siyang malaking mahilig sa board game, at mayroon siyang Discord

server called the Achievers Chamber.

server na tinatawag na Achievers Chamber.

Right.

And they do play board games there in English.

Tama. At naglalaro sila ng board games doon sa English.

So he's a good person to go to if you're interested in practising

Kaya siya ay isang mabuting tao na puntahan kung interesado ka sa pagsasanay ng

your English with board games.

iyong Ingles sa mga board game.

Anna: Fantastic.

Yeah, and I think having fun while learning is always really important for

Anna: Napakaganda.

Oo, at sa tingin ko ang pagkakaroon ng kasiyahan habang ang pag-aaral ay palaging talagang mahalaga para sa

motivation, also your brain, you process things and you know, it helps your memory.

pagganyak, pati na rin ang iyong utak, pinoproseso mo ang mga bagay at alam mo, nakakatulong ito sa iyong memorya.

If you are enjoying and releasing all those happy hormones.

Kung ikaw ay nag-e-enjoy at naglalabas ng lahat ng mga happy hormones.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: While you are learning, it, you know, removes all the stress,

Luke: Oo. Anna: Habang nag-aaral ka, alam mo, inaalis nito ang lahat ng stress,

which isn't good for memory.

na hindi maganda para sa memorya.

So, so play some games.

Kaya, kaya maglaro ng ilang mga laro.

Now, one of the great things with Scrabble is getting a Scrabble dictionary and

Ngayon, isa sa mga magagandang bagay sa Scrabble ay ang pagkuha ng Scrabble na diksyunaryo at

learning some of the weird and bizarre words that you'll throw down on the

pag-aaral ng ilan sa mga kakaiba at kakaibang salita na itatapon mo sa

board and it's a high scorer and someone will go, "that's not a word!", and

pisara at ito ay isang mataas na scorer at may sasabihin, "hindi iyon salita!", at

you say, "hey, check out the Scrabble dictionary because it is a word."

sasabihin mo, "hey, tingnan ang Scrabble dictionary dahil ito ay isang salita."

I actually played for my school, funnily enough, terrible speller, but I played in

Naglaro talaga ako para sa aking paaralan, nakakatawa, nakakatakot na speller, ngunit naglaro ako sa

the Scrabble, like leagues at school, and there was always a whole bunch of random

Scrabble, tulad ng mga liga sa paaralan, at palaging mayroong isang buong grupo ng mga random na

two letter words that I'm like, you would never use this word in a conversation.

dalawang titik na salita na katulad ko, hindi mo gagamitin ang salitang ito sa isang pag-uusap.

What even is it?

Ano ba ito?

But there're allowed because they're in the dictionary and one of these words

Ngunit may pinapayagan dahil nasa diksyunaryo ang mga ito at isa sa mga salitang ito

is not even in the official dictionary.

ay wala sa opisyal na diksyunaryo.

It's allowed in the Scrabble dictionary, and it's an abbreviation of casual.

Ito ay pinapayagan sa Scrabble na diksyunaryo, at ito ay isang pagdadaglat ng kaswal.

It's cazh, spelled C-A-Z-H.

Ito ay cazh, binabaybay na CAZH.

Luke: C-A-Z-H?

Luke: CAZH?

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Cazh.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Cazh. Luke: Talaga, cazh?

Luke: Really, cazh?

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Yeah, that Scrabble dictionary is very suspect, isn't it?

Luke: Oo, napakahinala ng Scrabble dictionary na iyon, di ba?

Don't you think?

Anna: Bit dodgy.

Hindi mo ba iniisip?

Anna: Medyo tuso.

Bit dodgy.

Luke: Like it's, yeah, like, my parents, when we play Scrabble with them, they

Medyo tuso.

Luke: Like it's, yeah, like, my parents, kapag nakikipaglaro kami sa kanila ng Scrabble,

basically ban the Scrabble dictionary.

talagang ipinagbabawal nila ang Scrabble dictionary.

Anna: Right.

Luke: You know, because otherwise what happens is you just end up digging

Anna: Tama.

Luke: Alam mo, dahil kung hindi, kung ano ang mangyayari ay nagtatapos ka lamang sa paghuhukay

through the Scrabble dictionary, trying to justify some ridiculous three letter

sa Scrabble dictionary, sinusubukang bigyang-katwiran ang ilang katawa-tawa na tatlong titik

word that contains an X or something.

na salita na naglalaman ng X o isang bagay.

Or you know, you come out with Q I.

O alam mo, lumabas ka kasama si Q I.

It's like ah, qi?

Parang ah, qi?

And so like, everyone's like qi, that's not a word.

And so like, everyone's like qi, hindi yan salita.

Yeah, it is qi.

Oo, ito ay qi.

It's pronounced 'key'.

It's a Chinese word.

Ito ay binibigkas na 'susi'.

Ito ay isang salitang Tsino.

It means energy.

Nangangahulugan ito ng enerhiya.

Ah, there you go.

Ah, ayan.

You know.

Alam mo.

Anna: Yeah.

Your parents are a lot of fun.

Anna: Oo.

Sobrang saya ng mga magulang mo.

You did an episode with them recently for the coronation?

Gumawa ka ng isang episode sa kanila kamakailan para sa koronasyon?

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: Yeah, they are.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: Oo, sila.

You can see a lot of your personality and where that's, well, not

Marami kang makikitang personalidad mo at kung saan iyon, well, hindi naman

that your personality came from your parents, you are unique.

sa magulang mo nanggaling ang pagkatao mo, kakaiba ka.

But, um...

Pero, um...

Luke: Yeah, I did it myself.

Luke: Oo, ako mismo ang gumawa.

I built it on my own!

Binuo ko ito sa aking sarili!

Anna: But they are, they're good fun.

Anna: Pero sila, ang saya saya nila.

You can tell that they're quite astute and clever.

Maaari mong sabihin na sila ay lubos na matalino at matalino.

Luke: Yeah, yeah.

Luke: Oo, oo.

Yeah, they are pretty smart and clever people.

Oo, sila ay medyo matalino at matalinong mga tao.

Quite funny.

Medyo nakakatawa.

Yeah, it's nice.

Oo, maganda.

Yeah.

I'm lucky.

Oo. Swerte ako.

Lucky to have parents like that and yeah, it's nice to play board games with them.

Ang swerte ng mga magulang na ganyan and yeah, masarap makipaglaro sa kanila ng board games.

It's always pretty good fun.

Ito ay palaging medyo magandang masaya.

Although you know, my wife's very competitive and my

Kahit alam mo, very competitive ang misis ko at

dad is competitive, right.

competitive naman ang papa ko, di ba.

So there's, when the two of them clash heads...

So there's, kapag nag-clash head silang dalawa...

Anna: Oh, they fight do they?

Anna: Naku, nag-aaway ba sila?

Luke: Well, in a nice way.

Luke: Well, sa magandang paraan.

Anna: Which side do I take?

Anna: Aling panig ang kukunin ko?

Obviously always your wife's.

Halatang laging asawa mo.

Luke: Yeah, of course.

Luke: Oo naman.

But it's always interesting to see how the dynamic switches

Ngunit palaging kawili-wiling makita kung paano lumilipat ang dynamic

when the competition arrives.

kapag dumating ang kumpetisyon.

But it's good.

Pero mabuti naman.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: No, it's great.

Anna: Oo. Luke: Hindi, ang galing.

Anna: Okay, so there's just two more words I'm gonna mention

Anna: Okay, kaya may dalawang salita na lang babanggitin ko

on Scrabble before we move on.

sa Scrabble bago tayo magpatuloy.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: And one of them is zax, which is the highest scoring three

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: At isa sa kanila ay ang zax, na siyang pinakamataas na marka ng tatlong

letter word that you can have.

titik na salita na maaari mong makuha.

Luke: Z-A-X?

Luke: ZAX?

Anna: Zax, do you know what this is?

Anna: Zax, alam mo ba kung ano ito?

Luke: Zax?

Luke: Zax?

Mm-hmm.

I've no idea what zax is.

Mm-hmm. Wala akong ideya kung ano ang zax.

No one ever uses the word zax.

Walang gumagamit ng salitang zax.

I've never read it, heard it.

Hindi ko pa nabasa, narinig ko.

Anna: It would be used in a specific industry.

Anna: Gagamitin ito sa isang partikular na industriya.

So if you work in a specific industry, it's a tool.

Kaya kung nagtatrabaho ka sa isang partikular na industriya, ito ay isang tool.

Luke: Okay.

Luke: Okay.

Like can you just pass me that zax over there.

Like can you just pass me that zax over there.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo.

Luke: It's a tool like that.

Luke: Ito ay isang kasangkapan tulad niyan.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: Sorry, pass, pass you what?

Anna: Oo. Luke: Sorry, pass, pass ka ano?

The zax over there.

Ang zax doon.

It's his first day on the job.

Ito ang unang araw niya sa trabaho.

He doesn't know what a zax is.

Hindi niya alam kung ano ang zax.

Anna: So it's an axe that a slater uses, so it's a specific axe for a

Anna: Kaya ito ay isang palakol na ginagamit ng isang slater, kaya ito ay isang tiyak na palakol para sa isang

specific job of putting nails into slate.

partikular na trabaho ng paglalagay ng mga pako sa slate.

Luke: Slate, which is like things that would go on the roof of a house.

Luke: Slate, na parang mga bagay na pupunta sa bubong ng isang bahay.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Oo.

Luke: Okay.

A zax is a specific hammer for hitting nails into a roof.

Luke: Okay.

Ang zax ay isang tiyak na martilyo para sa pagtama ng mga pako sa isang bubong.

Anna: Yeah, I believe so.

Anna: Oo, naniniwala ako.

Don't quote me on that.

Huwag mo akong i-quote diyan.

I might have got that wrong.

Baka nagkamali ako.

Luke: Yeah, I'll take your word for it.

Luke: Oo, kukunin ko ang iyong salita para dito.

Anna: A slater's axe.

Anna: Palakol ng slater.

Now the other one, quite funny, is the word gangbang.

Ngayon ang isa, medyo nakakatawa, ay ang salitang gangbang.

Luke: Oh yeah?

Luke: Ah ganun ba?

Anna: Oh yeah.

Anna: Ay oo.

Luke: Oh yes, okay.

Luke: Ay, sige.

Wait, that's quite a long word as well for G A N G...

Teka, medyo mahaba rin ang salita para kay GAN G...

Anna: Four, uh, four?

Anna: Apat, uh, apat?

Eight!

Luke: B A N G, eight.

Walo! Luke: BANG, walo.

So that's, yeah.

Kaya ayun, oo.

If you've got a word that ends in a G on the board, and you've got

Kung mayroon kang isang salita na nagtatapos sa isang G sa pisara, at mayroon kang

'angbang' in your hand then, you know...

'angbang' sa iyong kamay noon, alam mo...

Anna: Boom!

Luke: Don't waste any time!

Anna: Boom! Luke: Wag kang mag aksaya ng oras!

Anna: Get on with the gangbang!

Anna: Ituloy mo ang gangbang!

Luke: Yeah, exactly.

Luke: Oo, eksakto.

Anna: So what I've got here is the word was allowed in the second edition of

Anna: Kaya ang nakuha ko dito ay pinayagan ang salita sa ikalawang edisyon ng

the Scrabble dictionary, but then it got removed from the third edition and

Scrabble dictionary, ngunit pagkatapos ay inalis ito sa ikatlong edisyon at

then was reintroduced in the fourth.

pagkatapos ay muling ipinakilala sa ikaapat.

Now apparently this is because it changed meaning over the time.

Ngayon ay tila ito ay dahil nagbago ito ng kahulugan sa paglipas ng panahon.

So gangbang, it's transitioned its meaning from participating

Kaya gangbang, inilipat ang kahulugan nito mula sa pagsali

in gang related activities.

sa mga aktibidad na nauugnay sa gang.

Luke: Right.

Luke: Tama.

Gangbanging or to be a gangbanger.

Gangbanging o maging isang gangbanger.

Anna: Yeah.

Yes.

Anna: Oo.

Oo.

Yeah.

So, me and my gang are gonna go and hang out in the fields

Oo. Kaya, ako at ang aking barkada ay pupunta at tatambay sa mga bukid

and just make daisy chains.

at gagawa na lang ng mga daisy chain.

We're just having a gangbang.

May gangbang lang kami.

Luke: Um, I dunno about that.

Luke: Ewan ko ba dyan.

I think it would be more like what, some guys going and

Sa tingin ko ito ay mas katulad ng kung ano, ang ilang mga lalaki ay pupunta at

stealing a car or something, no?

nagnanakaw ng kotse o isang bagay, hindi ba?

Anna: Maybe.

Luke: Or maybe something as innocent as just collecting flowers.

Anna: Siguro.

Luke: O baka isang bagay na inosente gaya ng pagkolekta ng mga bulaklak.

Yeah.

Oo. Anna: Siguro.

Anna: Perhaps.

I've never been involved with any gang activities.

Hindi pa ako nasangkot sa anumang aktibidad ng gang.

So, and some people might be listening, going, what on earth are they...?

Kaya, at ang ilang mga tao ay maaaring nakikinig, pupunta, ano sila sa mundo...?

Why are they laughing so much?

Bakit ang dami nilang tawa?

What is going on?

Ano ang nangyayari?

The like overarching meaning of this word that everyone knows it

Ang tulad ng pangkalahatang kahulugan ng salitang ito na alam ng lahat

for is a bunch of chaps having intimate relations with one woman.

ay isang grupo ng mga chaps na may matalik na relasyon sa isang babae.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: And so that's why we're kind of like sniggering and giggling.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: At kaya iyon ang dahilan kung bakit kami ay uri ng tulad ng sniggering at giggling.

Luke: About sex - lol.

Luke: Tungkol sa sex - lol.

Anna: So yes, initially it was thought of as gang related activities

Anna: Kaya oo, noong una ay naisip ito bilang mga aktibidad na nauugnay sa gang

to then something quite naughty.

sa isang bagay na medyo malikot.

And then it went back to meaning participating in gang related activities.

At pagkatapos ay bumalik ito sa kahulugan ng pakikilahok sa mga aktibidad na nauugnay sa gang.

I don't know how that happens.

Hindi ko alam kung paano nangyari iyon.

Luke: So as the word sort of drifted in and out of acceptability.

Luke: Kaya't ang salitang uri ng drifted in at out of acceptability.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo. Luke: Ang salita ay naging dahil, 'cause yeah, sa Scrabble...

Luke: The word has become because, 'cause yeah, in Scrabble...

Anna: It was in and out, in and out.

Anna: It was in and out, in and out.

In and out.

In and out.

Luke: Yeah.

That's another way of saying it, Anna, yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Iyan ay isa pang paraan ng pagsasabi nito, Anna, oo.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo. Luke: 'Cause in Scrabble, like bawal or bawal or swear words,

Luke: 'Cause in Scrabble, like rude or taboo or swear words are not allowed,

which I find completely wrong and disappointing because I mean, you

which I find completely wrong and disappointing because I mean, you

know, why exclude the swear words?

know, why exclude the swear words?

Anna: Maybe it's because it's not family friendly.

Anna: Baka kasi hindi family friendly.

Luke: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Luke: Ay, oo, oo.

Okay.

If you're playing it with your grandma, and you write, you know, you put down

Sige. Kung pinaglalaruan mo ang lola mo, at nagsusulat ka, alam mo, ibinaba mo ang

gangbang and then, you know, you say, well, it's in the rules, grandma,

gangbang at pagkatapos, alam mo, sasabihin mo, aba, nasa rules, lola,

you're allowed to use that word.

pinapayagan kang gumamit ng salitang iyon.

Yeah, I suppose they're just trying to prevent those sort of family, potential

Oo, sa palagay ko sinusubukan lang nilang pigilan ang mga uri ng pamilya, mga potensyal na

problems that could be caused by writing extremely rude words on a board.

problema na maaaring idulot ng pagsusulat ng labis na bastos na mga salita sa pisara.

I mean, it, you know, depends how committed you are to winning

Ibig kong sabihin, ito, alam mo, depende kung gaano ka nakatuon sa panalo

the game, doesn't it really?

sa laro, hindi ba?

If you're like, I'm gonna risk it all.

Kung gusto mo, I'm gonna risk it all.

And I'm gonna, I'm gonna write gangbang.

And I'm gonna, I'm gonna write gangbang.

I don't care what my grandparents think.

Wala akong pakialam kung ano ang iniisip ng aking lolo't lola.

I wanna win this game and I'm prepared to defend my choice.

Gusto kong manalo sa larong ito at handa akong ipagtanggol ang aking pinili.

I'll Google it in front of them if I have to.

I'll Google it in front of them if I have to.

Anna: And display the trophy with pride.

Anna: At ipakita ang tropeo nang may pagmamalaki.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: Okay.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Okay.

So that's Scrabble.

Kaya iyon ay Scrabble.

We'll leave that there.

Iiwan natin yan diyan.

Luke: Okay.

Yeah.

Luke: Okay.

Oo.

Anna: So some, I think when it comes to board games, you're either a lover

Anna: So some, I think when it comes to board games, you're either a lover

of games that really take strategy and thinking, so they're like strategic

of games that really take strategy and thinking, so parang strategic

games that you have to use your brain.

games na kailangan mong gamitin ang utak mo.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Or they're just a game of chance.

Anna: O laro lang sila ng pagkakataon.

And I guess with younger children, a lot of their board games tend

At sa palagay ko sa mga mas batang bata, marami sa kanilang mga board game ay may posibilidad

to be just rolling a dice or, you know, picking the right card.

na gumulong lang ng dice o, alam mo, pagpili ng tamang card.

It's all a game of chance.

Ang lahat ng ito ay laro ng pagkakataon.

For example, Snakes and Ladders, the old classic Snakes and Ladders.

Halimbawa, Snakes and Ladders, ang lumang klasikong Snakes and Ladders.

Luke: Snakes and Ladders.

Lucas: Ahas at Hagdan.

Yeah.

Oo.

Anna: You just have to get the right numbers and work your way up the board.

Anna: Kailangan mo lang makuha ang tamang mga numero at gawin ang iyong paraan sa board.

And what happens if you land on a ladder?

At ano ang mangyayari kung mapunta ka sa isang hagdan?

Luke: You climb up it.

Luke: Umakyat ka dyan.

If you land on a snake's head, just like in the real world,

Kung mapunta ka sa ulo ng ahas, tulad ng sa totoong mundo,

you slide all the way down.

dumudulas ka pababa.

All the way down to its tail.

Hanggang sa buntot nito.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: I mean, yeah.

It's not based in, it's not a very realistic game, I suppose.

Anna: Oo. Luke: Ibig kong sabihin, oo.

Ito ay hindi batay sa, ito ay hindi isang napaka-makatotohanang laro, ipagpalagay ko.

Anna: No.

Anna: Hindi.

Luke: You're more likely to get bitten by the snake, I suppose.

Luke: Mas malamang na makagat ka ng ahas, kumbaga.

Especially if you land on its head.

Lalo na kung dumapo ka sa ulo nito.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo. Luke: Pero sabagay, oo.

Luke: But anyway, yeah.

In terms of the game, yeah.

Sa mga tuntunin ng laro, oo.

You climb up the ladder if you land at the bottom of it, if you're lucky enough.

Umakyat ka sa hagdan kung mapunta ka sa ilalim nito, kung ikaw ay mapalad.

And if you land on a snake's head, you slide all the way down to the bottom

At kung mapunta ka sa ulo ng ahas, dumudulas ka hanggang sa ibaba

and it's, yeah, the drama, the, ahh no!

at, oo, ang drama, ang, ahh hindi!

Slide all the way down!

I-slide pababa!

But yeah, the kids love it because it's pretty simple stuff.

Ngunit oo, gusto ito ng mga bata dahil ito ay medyo simpleng bagay.

Anna: Yeah.

Aging up again.

Anna: Oo.

Pagtanda muli.

One of the things I used to play a lot as a child was Trivial Pursuit.

Isa sa mga bagay na madalas kong nilalaro noong bata pa ako ay ang Trivial Pursuit.

Did you ever play that?

Naglaro ka na ba niyan?

Luke: Oh, yeah.

Luke: Ay, oo. Gusto ko ng kaunting Trivial Pursuit.

I love a bit of Trivial Pursuit.

Anna: What do you love about it?

Anna: Ano ang nagustuhan mo dito?

Luke: I think the trivia more than the pursuit.

Luke: I think the trivia more than the pursuit.

Anna: Right.

Luke: In fact, I'm quite happy sometimes to just get the box of cards and just

Anna: Tama. Luke: Sa totoo lang, medyo masaya ako minsan na makuha lang ang kahon ng mga baraha at parang

like, just ask me some questions.

, tanungin mo lang ako.

Let's ask each other questions, you know?

Magtanong-tanong tayo, alam mo ba?

Never mind about these bits of different coloured cheese in a wheel.

Huwag isipin ang tungkol sa mga piraso ng iba't ibang kulay na keso sa isang gulong.

Like what?

Tulad ng ano?

Just ask the questions.

Magtanong ka lang.

Anna: Yeah.

That's right.

Anna: Oo. Tama iyan.

I called it a pie in the notes, but you're right, it's a

Tinawag ko itong pie sa mga tala, ngunit tama ka, ito ay isang

wheel and it's cheeses, right?

gulong at ito ay mga keso, tama ba?

Luke: Well, I don't know, 'cause like when you play Trivial Pursuit, people will

Luke: Ewan ko, 'pag naglalaro ka ng Trivial Pursuit, magdedesisyon

just decide to call it a pie or cheese.

na lang ang mga tao na tawagin itong pie o cheese.

It's cheese pies.

Ito ay mga cheese pie.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: I don't know really.

Anna: Oo. Luke: Hindi ko talaga alam.

That's not written in the rules, is it?

Hindi naman yun nakasulat sa rules diba?

I dunno.

Segments, segments.

Hindi ko alam.

Mga segment, mga segment.

Anna: It sounds really familiar.

Anna: Parang pamilyar talaga.

As soon as you said cheese, that really made sense to me.

Sa sandaling sinabi mo ang keso, talagang may kahulugan iyon sa akin.

I was like, yeah, that's what we used to call it.

I was like, yeah, iyon ang tawag namin noon.

I couldn't remember.

Hindi ko maalala.

I'm sure that's what it's written as.

Sigurado akong iyon ang nakasulat.

You have a cheese.

Mayroon kang isang keso.

Luke: Because Trivial Pursuit, it's got a kind of air of slight

Luke: Dahil Trivial Pursuit, ito ay may isang uri ng hangin ng bahagyang

sophistication about it and sort of, oh, we're very clever and sophisticated.

pagiging sopistikado tungkol dito at uri ng, oh, kami ay napakatalino at sopistikado.

We know things about science and geography, and history

Alam namin ang mga bagay tungkol sa agham at heograpiya, at kasaysayan

and literature and the arts.

at panitikan at sining.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: I don't think they're referring to those pieces as cheeses.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Sa palagay ko hindi nila tinutukoy ang mga piraso na iyon bilang mga keso.

I think they call them segments.

Sa tingin ko, tinatawag nila silang mga segment.

Anna: Oh, oh yes.

Anna: Ay, oo naman.

Luke: I guess so.

I would imagine so.

Luke: I guess so.

Akala ko kaya.

Anna: That would be sensible.

Anna: Ang bait naman niyan.

Yeah.

So for those listening, Trivial Pursuit is basically a round board game?

Oo.

Kaya para sa mga nakikinig, ang Trivial Pursuit ay karaniwang isang round board game?

Well, it has a big circle that you have to get around, and as you keep going around

Buweno, mayroon itong malaking bilog na kailangan mong libutin, at habang patuloy kang umiikot

it with your little piece that has loads of segments that are empty, you have

dito gamit ang iyong maliit na piraso na may maraming mga segment na walang laman, kailangan mong

to fill up your, let's call it a pie.

punan ang iyong, tawagin natin itong pie.

You have to fill up your pie with all these little pieces.

Kailangan mong punan ang iyong pie ng lahat ng maliliit na pirasong ito.

And you get those pieces by landing on different colours,

At makukuha mo ang mga piraso sa pamamagitan ng paglapag sa iba't ibang kulay,

which are different topics.

na iba't ibang paksa.

So you have things like sports and leisure, geography, arts and

Kaya mayroon kang mga bagay tulad ng palakasan at paglilibang, heograpiya, sining at

literature, things like that.

panitikan, mga bagay na tulad niyan.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: So different topics of questions and every time you land on

Luke: Oo. Anna: Iba't ibang paksa ng mga tanong at sa tuwing mapunta ka sa

a square, you get asked that question.

isang parisukat, tatanungin ka ng tanong na iyon.

If you can answer it, you get your cheese or your segment or whatever it is.

Kung masasagot mo ito, makuha mo ang iyong keso o ang iyong segment o kung ano pa man ito.

You get your piece.

Kunin mo ang iyong piraso. Luke: Masarap ang keso.

Luke: Cheese is good.

Anna: And when you fill up your entire pie, wheel, then you no

Anna: At kapag napuno mo ang iyong buong pie, gulong, pagkatapos ay hindi mo

longer have to keep going around.

na kailangang magpatuloy sa paligid.

You can move up the middle and it's the first person to then get, and

Maaari kang umakyat sa gitna at ito ang unang taong makakakuha, at

you have to roll the exact number.

kailangan mong i-roll ang eksaktong numero.

It's so frustrating to get into the middle and then you are the winner, and

Nakakadismaya na pumasok sa gitna at pagkatapos ay ikaw ang panalo, at

I think that's the downfall of the game.

sa tingin ko iyon ang pagbagsak ng laro.

Like you said, the fun is the trivia, it's answering the questions.

Tulad ng sinabi mo, ang saya ay ang trivia, sinasagot ang mga tanong.

The boring bit is having to roll the dice and get the right numbers

Ang nakakainip na bit ay kinakailangang gumulong ng dice at makuha ang tamang mga numero

to get to where you need to be.

upang makarating sa kung saan kailangan mong marating.

Luke: But it's quite clever in the way that they've made the game where

Luke: Ngunit ito ay medyo matalino sa paraan na ginawa nila ang laro kung saan

if it wasn't for the board and the cheeses and the pies and going around

kung hindi para sa board at mga keso at mga pie at paglibot

and collecting cheese and going to the middle, if it wasn't for that,

at pagkolekta ng keso at pagpunta sa gitna, kung hindi dahil doon ,

it would essentially just be a list of questions under different topics.

ito ay talagang isang listahan lamang ng mga tanong sa ilalim ng iba't ibang paksa.

Anna: It'd be a quiz.

Luke: It'd just be a quiz.

Anna: Ito ay isang pagsusulit. Luke: Quiz lang naman.

They could have sold it as a book.

Maaari nilang ibenta ito bilang isang libro.

Anna: Yeah.

Just gone to the pub, gone to a pub quiz.

Anna: Oo.

Pumunta lang sa pub, pumunta sa pub quiz.

Luke: Yeah, exactly yeah.

No, obviously this is the joy of the board game as a thing that there's a

Luke: Oo, oo talaga.

Hindi, malinaw na ito ang kagalakan ng board game bilang isang bagay na mayroong isang

board and you wait your turn, you roll some dice and yeah, you know, the ritual

board at naghihintay ka ng iyong turn, gumulong ka ng ilang dice at oo, alam mo, ang ritwal

of a board game is a fantastic thing.

ng isang board game ay isang kamangha-manghang bagay.

And so yeah, let's just turn a quiz into a board game.

At kaya oo, gawin nating board game ang isang pagsusulit.

And they've done a very good job.

At nagawa nila ang isang napakahusay na trabaho.

It's one of the most successful board games that's ever been created.

Isa ito sa pinakamatagumpay na board game na nagawa.

Anna: Lots of versions of it.

Anna: Ang daming version nito.

I think for me, one of the downfalls is that it does go out of date.

Sa tingin ko para sa akin, ang isa sa mga downfalls ay na ito ay hindi na napapanahon.

If you are young, it goes out of date for you quite quickly.

Kung ikaw ay bata pa, ito ay mabilis na nawala sa panahon para sa iyo.

So I was quite young when I started playing this, and there were questions

Kaya medyo bata pa ako noong sinimulan kong maglaro nito, at may mga tanong

about like, politics and things.

tungkol sa tulad ng, pulitika at mga bagay.

I was a kid.

Ako ay isang bata.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: I had no idea about, if you had like arts and leisure and it's about movies and

Luke: Oo. Anna: Wala akong ideya tungkol sa, kung gusto mo ang sining at paglilibang at ito ay tungkol sa mga pelikula at

things, it could be very much of its time and not as relevant or well-known, so...

mga bagay, maaaring ito ay napakatagal ng panahon nito at hindi gaanong kaugnay o kilala, kaya...

Luke: Also quite American-centric as well.

Luke: Medyo American-centric din din.

Some of the early, maybe the first edition.

Ang ilan sa mga maaga, marahil ang unang edisyon.

That's the one I think that we've got at my parents' house.

Iyon ang sa tingin ko ay mayroon kami sa bahay ng aking mga magulang.

It's always funny playing Trivial Pursuit with my parents that edition

Palaging nakakatawa ang paglalaro ng Trivial Pursuit kasama ang aking mga magulang sa edisyong iyon

because there's always a moment where everyone sort of sneers at the game.

dahil palaging may isang sandali kung saan lahat ay nanunuya sa laro.

This is written by an American, you know, like.

Ito ay isinulat ng isang Amerikano, alam mo, tulad ng.

'Cause all the questions are about American public figures and American

'Cause all the questions are about American public figures and American

this and American that I think.

this and American that I think.

So it's always quite funny when that, I mean, at some point someone gets it wrong.

Kaya ito ay palaging medyo nakakatawa kapag iyon, ang ibig kong sabihin, sa isang punto ay may nagkakamali.

And there's, this is an American, isn't it who wrote this?

At meron, ito ay isang Amerikano, hindi ba ito ang nagsulat nito?

Anna: You can always update the cards, just buy a fresh box I guess.

Anna: You can always update the cards, just buy a fresh box I guess.

Luke: Yeah, yeah.

Luke: Oo, oo.

Anna: And just swap them in.

Anna: At ipagpalit mo na lang sila.

I'm gonna ask you a few questions now.

May itatanong ako sa iyo ngayon.

Luke: Okay.

Anna: Are you ready?

Luke: Okay.

Anna: Handa ka na ba?

Luke: Uh, no.

Luke: Ay, hindi.

Anna: No?

Luke: But I'll answer them anyway.

Anna: Hindi? Luke: Pero sasagutin ko pa rin sila.

Anna: Okay.

Anna: Okay.

So this one is a, what topic is this?

So this one is a, anong topic ito?

It gives you a clue when you know the topic.

Nagbibigay ito sa iyo ng isang palatandaan kapag alam mo ang paksa.

So this is a sports and leisure question.

Kaya ito ay isang tanong sa palakasan at paglilibang.

Luke: Sports and leisure.

Luke: Palakasan at paglilibang.

Okay.

Sige.

Anna: True or false?

Anna: Tama o mali?

Competitive tickling exists.

Umiiral ang mapagkumpitensyang kiliti.

Luke: Competitive tickling.

Luke: Competitive kiliti.

That's when you tickle someone...

Yan kapag may kinikiliti ka...

Anna: Like when you like, rub them with your fingers to make them laugh.

Anna: Parang kapag gusto mo, kuskusin mo ng daliri mo para tumawa.

Luke: The ribs, under the arms, the soles of the feet,

Lucas: Ang mga tadyang, sa ilalim ng mga braso, ang talampakan ng paa,

competitive tickling, true or false?

mapagkumpitensyang pangingiliti, totoo o mali?

It's, I'm gonna say it's true.

Ay, sasabihin kong totoo.

I think it's true.

Sa tingin ko totoo.

Anna: You are correct.

Anna: Tama ka.

You get a cheese.

Kumuha ka ng keso.

Luke: Oh, brilliant.

Luke: Ay, napakatalino.

Yeah.

Oo.

Competitive tickling.

Competitive kiliti.

Yeah.

Oo.

Right.

I wonder what the rules are for that, that you...

Tama.

I wonder what the rules are for that, that you...

Anna: Maybe it's that you have to make the other person wet themselves laughing.

Anna: Siguro kailangan mong patawanin yung ibang tao.

Luke: You get bonus points if, yeah, if they wet themselves.

Luke: Makakakuha ka ng mga puntos ng bonus kung, oo, kung basa sila sa kanilang sarili.

Anna: Yeah.

I'm going to divulge, my dad when I was younger, used to tickle me

Anna: Oo. Ibubunyag ko, ang tatay ko noong bata pa ako, kinikiliti ako

until it was just uncomfortable.

hanggang sa hindi lang komportable.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: He would just tickle me and I'd be like, no, please stop.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Kukulitin lang niya ako at gusto ko, hindi, please stop.

Please stop.

Please stop.

Mangyaring huminto.

Mangyaring huminto.

And once he tickled me until I wet myself.

At minsan ay kiniliti niya ako hanggang sa mabasa ko ang sarili ko.

Luke: Oh my God.

Luke: Diyos ko.

Really?

Talaga?

Anna: Yeah.

It was horrendous.

Anna: Oo. Ito ay kakila-kilabot.

I was like, look what you made me do!

Ako ay tulad ng, tingnan kung ano ang iyong ginawa sa akin!

He was so good at tickling and I just, I couldn't resist.

Ang galing niyang makiliti at ako lang, hindi ko mapigilan.

It was awful.

Ito ay kakila-kilabot.

Luke: Yeah.

Well, when you know someone, and you know, that you, you

Luke: Oo. Well, kapag kilala mo ang isang tao, at alam mo, na ikaw,

know exactly how to tickle them.

alam mo kung paano kilitiin sila.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Then it's very hard not to tickle them, isn't it?

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Kung ganon ang hirap na wag silang kilitiin di ba?

Yeah.

But you should probably stop before that person has to change

Oo. Ngunit marahil ay dapat kang huminto bago ang taong iyon ay kailangang magpalit

their trousers or something.

ng kanilang pantalon o isang bagay.

Anna: Yeah.

I was a child.

Anna: Oo. bata pa ako.

I mean, it's not like I did this as an adult, you know?

Ibig kong sabihin, hindi ko ginawa ito bilang isang may sapat na gulang, alam mo ba?

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Kaya patawarin na natin ang isang iyon.

Anna: So we'll forgive me for that one.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: But the next question on my list is a...

Luke: Oo. Anna: Pero ang susunod na tanong sa listahan ko ay isang...

Luke: Science and nature.

Luke: Science and nature.

FE is the abbreviation of which element on the periodic table?

Ang FE ay ang pagdadaglat ng aling elemento sa periodic table?

Okay.

I did study chemistry at school.

Sige.

Nag-aral ako ng chemistry sa school.

Anna: Good.

Luke: I think this is one of the only ones I remember along with Au, which is gold.

Anna: Mabuti.

Luke: Sa tingin ko isa lang ito sa mga naaalala ko kasama si Au, which is gold.

Eh, you!

Eh ikaw!

Now there's, there's no joke there, you think about it.

Ngayon meron, walang biro diyan, isipin mo.

But Fe is, is it iron?

Pero si Fe, bakal ba?

Anna: That's right.

Anna: Tama na.

Luke: Yes.

Anna: Well done.

Luke: Yes.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: Magaling.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Ding ding!

Anna: Ding ding!

You get two stars or two cheeses, confused the game.

Makakakuha ka ng dalawang bituin o dalawang keso, nalilito ang laro.

Okay, last question 'cause I don't wanna drag this out too much.

Okay, huling tanong 'pagkat hindi ko gustong i-drag ito nang labis.

Luke: Okay.

Luke: Okay.

Anna: A and L is arts and literature.

Anna: Ang A at L ay sining at panitikan.

Luke: Arts and literature.

Lucas: Sining at panitikan.

Anna: Which classic novel opens with the line "Call me Ishmael."

Anna: Aling klasikong nobela ang nagbubukas sa linyang "Tawagin mo akong Ishmael."

Luke: Call me Ishmael.

Luke: Tawagin mo akong Ismael.

I don't know.

hindi ko alam.

I have no idea.

Wala akong ideya.

I should probably guess, but I'm not going to.

Dapat kong hulaan, ngunit hindi ako pupunta.

Anna: Okay.

Luke: But I don't know who is...what's that?

Anna: Okay.

Luke: Pero hindi ko alam kung sino...ano yun?

Anna: Moby Dick.

Anna: Moby Dick.

Luke: Oh, right.

Luke: O sige.

Anna: Have you read it?

Luke: I should have known that.

Anna: Nabasa mo na ba?

Luke: Dapat alam ko na.

Have you read it?

Nabasa mo na ba?

Anna: I haven't read it.

Anna: Hindi ko nabasa.

Have you read it?

Luke: No, I haven't read it, but I'd like to read it.

Nabasa mo na ba?

Luke: Hindi, hindi ko pa nabasa, pero gusto kong basahin.

But I'm put off by the fact that it's exceedingly long.

Ngunit natigilan ako sa katotohanang ito ay napakatagal.

Anna: Yeah.

Like War and Peace.

Anna: Oo. Tulad ng Digmaan at Kapayapaan.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Yeah.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: Exactly.

Oo. Anna: Oo.

Luke: Sakto.

Anna: Okay, so I have one question for the listeners at home, so please don't

Anna: Okay, so I have one question for the listeners at home, so please don't

answer this Luke, you can message me later if you think you know the answer.

answer this Luke, you can message me later if you think you know the answer.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: If you are listening and you are listening or watching on YouTube, then

Anna: Kung nakikinig ka at nakikinig ka o nanonood sa YouTube,

you can write the answer in the comments.

maaari mong isulat ang sagot sa mga komento.

The question is, what is the only country to start with the letter O?

Ang tanong, ano ang tanging bansa na nagsisimula sa letrang O?

Luke: Don't Google it, folks.

Luke: Huwag i-Google ito, mga tao.

Anna: Yeah, don't cheat.

Anna: Oo, huwag kang mandaya.

Luke: Use your brain.

Luke: Gamitin mo utak mo.

Anna: Okay, so that's Trivial Pursuit.

Anna: Okay, so Trivial Pursuit yan.

So now one of the most played board games in the world, and it's also

Kaya ngayon ang isa sa mga pinakapinaglalaro na board game sa mundo, at ito rin

the most owned board or board game in the UK is, what do you think?

ang pinakapagmamay-ari na board o board game sa UK ay, ano sa palagay mo?

Luke: Um.

Luke: Um.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Anna: Like a standard piece of kit in everyone's house?

Anna: Tulad ng isang karaniwang piraso ng kit sa bahay ng lahat?

Luke: Cluedo.

Luke: Cluedo.

Anna: Oh no, I don't have a Cluedo set here.

Anna: Naku, wala akong Cluedo set dito.

Luke: Oh, okay.

Luke: Ah sige.

So it's not Cluedo.

Kaya hindi ito Cluedo.

Well, it, can we go back to the classics like chess?

Well, ito, maaari ba tayong bumalik sa mga klasiko tulad ng chess?

Anna: Chess.

Luke: Chess, okay.

Anna: Chess.

Luke: Chess, okay.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo.

Luke: Yeah.

I feel like chess is an ancient game or something.

Luke: Oo. Pakiramdam ko, ang chess ay isang sinaunang laro o ano.

Anna: It is.

Anna: Ito ay. Itinayo ito noong ikaanim na siglo.

It dates back to the sixth sixth century.

Luke: The sixth century.

Lucas: Ang ikaanim na siglo.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: Not the sick century where everyone was sick with the plague.

Anna: Oo. Luke: Hindi ang sick century kung saan lahat ay may sakit ng salot.

Anna: Well, they probably were quite sick in the sixth century.

Anna: Buweno, malamang na sila ay may sakit noong ikaanim na siglo.

Luke: I expect so.

Luke: Inaasahan ko.

But the sixth century.

Ngunit ang ikaanim na siglo.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: So that's 500 to 599 AD.

Anna: Oo. Luke: So that's 500 to 599 AD.

Anna: I'll trust you on that one.

Anna: Ipagkakatiwala ko sa iyo ang isang iyon.

Yeah.

Oo. Hindi ako gumagawa ng mental math.

I don't do mental maths.

Maths.

Math. Luke: I'm pretty sure tama yan.

Luke: I'm pretty sure that's right.

Okay.

It's the dark ages.

Sige. Ito ay ang madilim na edad.

Anna: Yes.

Anna: Oo.

It's a very old game, which means that some of the rules and

Ito ay isang napakalumang laro, na nangangahulugan na ang ilan sa mga patakaran at

the way the players move on the board is quite bizarre, really.

ang paraan ng paglipat ng mga manlalaro sa board ay medyo kakaiba, talaga.

Can you remember what all the, you said in the previous episode,

Can you remember what all the, you said in the previous episode,

our little chat about Monopoly, that you don't really do chess?

our little chat about Monopoly, na hindi ka talaga nag-chess?

Luke: I love chess.

Luke: Mahilig ako sa chess.

Don't get me wrong.

I love chess.

Huwag mo akong intindihin.

Mahilig ako sa chess.

I'm fascinated by chess.

Nabighani ako sa chess.

I do play chess sometimes, but it's too, it's a little beyond me.

Naglalaro ako ng chess kung minsan, ngunit ito rin, ito ay medyo lampas sa akin.

Anna: Okay.

Luke: But I know the rules.

Anna: Okay. Luke: Pero alam ko ang rules.

So you've got your castles, I call them castles, on the corners.

Kaya nakuha mo na ang iyong mga kastilyo, tinatawag ko silang mga kastilyo, sa mga sulok.

Anna: Yeah.

Yeah.

Anna: Oo. Oo.

Are they, they're supposed to be, 'cause I call them castles too.

Sila ba, sila daw, 'cause I call them castles too.

But aren't they like rooks?

Pero di ba parang rook sila?

Are they rooks?

Mga rook ba sila?

Luke: Rooks.

Rooks.

Yeah.

Luke: Rooks. Rooks.

Oo.

That's right.

They should be called rooks, I think.

Tama iyan.

Dapat silang tawaging rook, sa tingin ko.

And they go horizontally and vertically.

At pumunta sila nang pahalang at patayo.

Anna: Uh-huh.

Anna: Uh-huh.

Luke: Then you've got...

Anna: So straight lines.

Luke: Tapos meron ka...

Anna: So straight lines.

I just think about they go in straight lines.

Iniisip ko lang na sila ay pumunta sa mga tuwid na linya.

Luke: Straight lines.

Exactly.

Luke: Tuwid na linya.

Eksakto.

Left, right up, down.

Kaliwa, kanan pataas, pababa.

Anna: But then I guess a diagonal is a straight,

Anna: But then I guess a diagonal is a straight,

Luke: Ehh.

Anna: It's straight, it doesn't deviate.

Luke: Ehh. Anna: Diretso lang, hindi nalilihis.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

True.

totoo.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: It's not curved, is it, diagonal?

Anna: Oo. Luke: Hindi naman curved di ba, diagonal?

Anna: No.

Luke: Anyway.

Anna: Straight line.

Anna: Hindi.

Luke: Anyway.

Anna: Tuwid na linya.

Luke: Up, down, left, right.

Luke: Taas, baba, kaliwa, kanan.

These are the rooks.

Ito ang mga rook.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: Then, you've got the knights.

Anna: Oo.

Luke: Kung gayon, nakuha mo na ang mga kabalyero.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Or horses.

Anna: The little horseys.

Luke: O mga kabayo. Anna: Ang maliliit na horsey.

Luke: Yeah, little horses.

Luke: Oo, maliliit na kabayo.

And they do an interesting L shape, which is quite interesting.

At gumagawa sila ng isang kawili-wiling L na hugis, na medyo kawili-wili.

They can go forward three and right one or forward three and left one.

Maaari silang sumulong ng tatlo at pakanan ng isa o pasulong ng tatlo at kaliwa ng isa.

Anna: Is it forward three?

Anna: Paunahan ba ang tatlo?

Yeah, it is forward three.

Oo, ito ay pasulong tatlo.

Luke: It's like, yeah.

Anna: From the one they're on, then two forward from there, right?

Luke: Parang, oo. Anna: From the one they're on, then two forward from there, di ba?

Luke: Yeah.

They can kind of go in any direction in that pattern, like,

Luke: Oo. Maaari silang pumunta sa anumang direksyon sa pattern na iyon, tulad ng,

you know, or they can go right.

alam mo, o maaari silang pumunta sa kanan.

And then, oh, I just can't!

At saka, naku, hindi ko kaya!

L shapes.

L na hugis.

Anna: Yeah.

L shape.

Anna: Oo. L hugis.

So it's actually two from the square they're on.

Kaya ito ay talagang dalawa mula sa parisukat na kanilang kinaroroonan.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: They can only move two more squares forward.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Dalawa pang parisukat pa lang ang kaya nilang ilipat pasulong.

Luke: Oh, is it two?

Luke: Oh, dalawa ba?

Anna: Yeah.

I don't think it's three.

Anna: Oo. Hindi yata tatlo.

Luke: It's not three.

Anna: Because if you are starting your horse, or your knight...

Luke: Hindi tatlo. Anna: Dahil kung sinisimulan mo ang iyong kabayo, o ang iyong kabalyero...

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: You can jump over.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Pwede kang tumalon.

It's the only player that can jump.

Ito ang tanging manlalaro na maaaring tumalon.

Luke: Of course it's two.

Luke: Syempre dalawa.

Yeah.

Anna: So it jumps over the pawn.

Oo. Anna: Kaya tumalon ito sa nakasangla.

We'll come back to those, jump over the pawn and then move across.

Babalik tayo sa mga iyon, tumalon sa nakasangla at pagkatapos ay lilipat.

Luke: Right.

Anna: So it's only two forward and one across.

Luke: Tama. Anna: So dalawa lang sa unahan at isa sa kabila.

Luke: Yeah.

Okay.

Luke: Oo. Sige.

And, you know, in any variation of that, that pattern basically, you know?

At, alam mo, sa anumang pagkakaiba-iba niyan, ang pattern na iyon talaga, alam mo ba?

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Luke: Which is interesting.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Luke: Alin ang kawili-wili.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo. Luke: At pagkatapos ay mayroon kang mga obispo.

Luke: And then you've got the bishops.

Anna: Oh yes, they're wonky lines.

Anna: Ay oo, nakakalokong linya sila.

Luke: They go in diagonal...

Luke: Pumupunta sila sa diagonal...

Anna: Not wonky lines!

Luke: Diagonal lines that you got one on the white squares,

Anna: Hindi mga wonky lines!

Luke: Mga dayagonal na linya na nakuha mo sa puting parisukat,

one on the black squares.

isa sa itim na parisukat.

And they can command the diagonal lines, as it were.

At maaari silang mag-utos ng mga dayagonal na linya, tulad ng dati.

Anna: Axis.

Anna: Axis.

Luke: Axes.

Luke: Axes.

Yeah.

And then you've got the queen and the king.

Oo.

At pagkatapos ay mayroon kang reyna at hari.

The queen is the boss of the game.

Ang reyna ang boss ng laro.

Anna: Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it?

Anna: Oo, ito ay kamangha-manghang, hindi ba?

Luke: Brilliant.

Yeah.

Luke: Magaling.

Oo.

Anna: She's so strong as a player.

Anna: Napakalakas niya bilang isang manlalaro.

But the king...

Ngunit ang hari...

Luke: Fully the strongest player on the board.

Luke: Ganap na pinakamalakas na manlalaro sa board.

But the king is bloody useless in terms of being able to do anything.

Ngunit ang hari ay duguang walang silbi sa mga tuntuning kayang gawin ang anuman.

All the king does is run away, doesn't he?

Ang lahat ng ginagawa ng hari ay tumakas, hindi ba?

He will hide.

Magtatago siya.

Anna: Yeah.

Behind all the other players.

Anna: Oo. Sa likod ng lahat ng iba pang mga manlalaro.

Luke: He can take pieces, but it's rare.

Luke: Nakakapiraso siya, pero bihira lang.

But the queen is just amazing.

Ngunit kamangha-mangha ang reyna.

She can go straight lines, diagonal lines.

Maaari siyang pumunta ng mga tuwid na linya, mga diagonal na linya.

Anna: She can't do a horse move though.

Anna: Hindi siya makakagawa ng horse move.

Luke: She can't do a horse...

Luke: Hindi niya kayang gumawa ng kabayo...

Anna: Or a knight move, a knight move.

Anna: O knight move, knight move.

Luke: Correct.

Luke: Tama.

She can't do that.

Hindi niya magagawa iyon.

She can't jump like like that.

Hindi siya pwedeng tumalon ng ganyan.

Yeah.

And, and the king can only can move in any direction, but only one square at a time.

Oo.

At, at ang hari ay maaari lamang lumipat sa anumang direksyon, ngunit isang parisukat lamang sa isang pagkakataon.

Anna: Yeah.

Which is exactly the same as...

Anna: Oo. Which is exactly the same as...

oh no, pawns.

naku, mga pawn.

They can only move one square, but they...

Isang parisukat lang ang kaya nilang ilipat, ngunit sila...

Luke: Two squares their first move.

Luke: Dalawang parisukat ang kanilang unang galaw.

They can go two.

Pwede silang dalawa.

Anna: That's right.

Anna: Tama na.

Their first steps.

Ang kanilang mga unang hakbang.

But they can't move backwards.

Ngunit hindi sila makagalaw pabalik.

They can only move forwards.

Maaari lamang silang sumulong.

Luke: They take other pieces by going diagonally.

Luke: Kumuha sila ng iba pang mga piraso sa pamamagitan ng pagpunta sa pahilis.

Anna: Diagonally.

Anna: Diagonal.

That's right.

Tama iyan.

Luke: But when they get to the end...

Luke: Ngunit kapag nakarating na sila sa dulo...

Anna: You can swap them for any player that's been taken off the board.

Anna: Maaari mo silang ipagpalit sa sinumang manlalaro na tinanggal sa board.

Luke: Yeah, you can.

Luke: Oo, kaya mo.

So if you've lost your queen, but one little pawn has just like made

Kaya't kung nawala ang iyong reyna, ngunit ang isang maliit na sangla ay tulad ng ginawa

it all the way to the end, somehow.

ito hanggang sa dulo, kahit papaano.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: All the others have like, wait a minute.

Anna: Oo.

Luke: Lahat ng iba ay may gusto, maghintay ng isang minuto.

Where's that pawn gone?

Saan nawala ang pawn na iyon?

Oh, he's got to the end.

Oh, nasa dulo na siya.

Anna: Oh no!

Luke: And then you could replace that one with a queen and

Anna: Ay hindi!

Luke: At pagkatapos ay maaari mong palitan ang isang iyon ng isang reyna at

suddenly, pow I'm back, bitches!

biglang, pow bumalik ako, bitch!

Anna: You can have two queens on the board at any one time as well, right?

Anna: Maaari kang magkaroon ng dalawang reyna sa board sa isang pagkakataon din, tama?

Luke: Can you?

Anna: So if you, I think if you already have your queen and then you

Luke: Pwede ba?

Anna: So kung ikaw, I think if you already have your queen and then you

get a pawn to the other end maybe.

get a pawn to the other end maybe.

This is a bad rule that I've been playing.

Ito ay isang masamang panuntunan na aking nilalaro.

Luke: People listening do know more about chess than us.

Luke: Mas alam ng mga taong nakikinig ang chess kaysa sa amin.

This is just Luke and Anna talk about a game they don't really understand.

Ito lang naman ang pinag-uusapan nina Luke at Anna tungkol sa isang laro na hindi nila talaga maintindihan.

Anna: Well, I taught myself chess as a young child from a book that

Anna: Buweno, tinuruan ko ang aking sarili ng chess noong bata pa ako mula sa isang libro na

was also pretty old, and I wasn't very good at reading at the time.

medyo luma na, at hindi pa ako masyadong magaling sa pagbabasa noon.

So, you know, I'm probably making some rules up as I go.

Kaya, alam mo, malamang na gumagawa ako ng ilang mga panuntunan habang ako ay nagpapatuloy.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: But yeah, chess is one of those games that if you understand it,

Anna: Ngunit oo, ang chess ay isa sa mga larong iyon na kung naiintindihan mo ito,

and if you've got the kind of mind that can remember strategies and you

at kung mayroon kang uri ng pag-iisip na makakaalala ng mga estratehiya at

can think several moves ahead, then it could be over really quickly.

maaari kang mag-isip ng ilang hakbang sa unahan, maaaring mabilis itong matapos.

And people play speed chess, don't they?

At ang mga tao ay naglalaro ng speed chess, hindi ba?

Where they're just like, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.

Kung saan sila ay parang, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: They're hitting the clock and moving their piece and it's just done.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Pinindot nila ang orasan at ginagalaw ang kanilang piraso at katatapos lang nito.

Whereas when I play chess, I often get to the point where there's just

Samantalang kapag naglalaro ako ng chess, madalas akong umabot sa punto na

two pieces left a player, a piece per player, and you're just constantly

dalawang piraso na lang ang natitira sa isang manlalaro, isang piraso bawat manlalaro, at patuloy ka na lang

moving around the board trying to, and you just can't end the game

gumagalaw sa paligid ng board na sinusubukan, at hindi mo matatapos ang laro

until you just go, d'you know what?

hanggang sa go lang, alam mo kung ano?

Luke: Stalemate.

Anna: I give up, I give up.

Luke: Stalemate. Anna: I give up, I give up.

Luke: Yeah.

Where there's just two pieces chasing each other around the board.

Luke: Oo.

Kung saan may dalawang piraso lang na naghahabulan sa paligid ng board.

It's completely stupid.

Ito ay ganap na hangal.

But yeah, I mean it's a fascinating game though 'cause of the level of intelligence

Ngunit oo, ang ibig kong sabihin ay ito ay isang kamangha-manghang laro kahit na dahil sa antas ng katalinuhan

that can be applied to it and these chess grandmasters are absolutely amazing.

na maaaring ilapat dito at ang mga chess grandmaster na ito ay talagang kamangha-mangha.

Anna: Yeah, so there's two that I've got in the notes, which is Magnus Carlson.

Anna: Oo, kaya may dalawa akong nasa notes, which is Magnus Carlson.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: And Beth Harmon.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: At Beth Harmon.

Now, there was a really interesting drama that was made about Beth Harmon.

Ngayon, nagkaroon ng talagang kawili-wiling drama na ginawa tungkol sa Beth Harmon.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: And that was called The Queen's Gambit.

Luke: Oo. Anna: At iyon ay tinawag na The Queen's Gambit.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: Which is really, even if you are not into chess, if you are interested in

Luke: Oo. Anna: Which is, kahit hindi ka naman sa chess, kung interesado ka sa

chess, it was still a really great drama.

chess, it was still a really great drama.

That I recommend to viewers, listeners.

Na inirerekomenda ko sa mga manonood, nakikinig.

Luke: Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Anna: Did you watch it?

Luke: Oo. Oo, oo.

Anna: Napanood mo ba?

Luke: Yeah, I did watch it.

Luke: Oo, napanood ko.

Yeah.

Oo.

Anna: Do you know what gambit means?

Anna: Alam mo ba ang ibig sabihin ng sugal?

Luke: Isn't a gambit a sort of a strategy, like a kind of a move that you would

Luke: Hindi ba ang isang sugal ay isang uri ng isang diskarte, tulad ng isang uri ng isang hakbang na gagawin mo

do, a kind of specific strategic move?

, isang uri ng tiyak na madiskarteng hakbang?

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo.

It's like a clever move or a clever opening move that gives you an advantage,

Ito ay tulad ng isang matalinong galaw o isang matalinong pambungad na galaw na nagbibigay sa iyo ng kalamangan,

but it's not necessarily seen or deemed to be an advantageous move.

ngunit hindi ito palaging nakikita o itinuturing na isang kapaki-pakinabang na hakbang.

So like giving up your queen or giving up a valuable piece going, oh, you

Kaya tulad ng pagbibigay ng iyong reyna o pagbibigay ng isang mahalagang piraso ng pagpunta, oh,

just took my queen, how silly of me.

kinuha mo lang ang aking reyna, gaano ako katanga.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: But really you've got something in mind that you're like,

Luke: Mm-hmm. Anna: Ngunit talagang mayroon kang isang bagay sa isip na ikaw ay tulad ng,

their next move, checkmate, pow!

ang kanilang susunod na galaw, checkmate, pow!

I tricked you.

niloko kita.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: So, yeah.

Anna: Kaya, oo.

Luke: Yeah.

Yeah, there's a lot of obviously kind of mental strategy involved in it too, in

Luke: Oo. Oo, mayroong maraming malinaw na uri ng diskarte sa pag-iisip na kasangkot din dito, sa

the sense of like coming into a game of chess, sitting in front of your opponent.

kahulugan ng pagpasok sa isang laro ng chess, nakaupo sa harap ng iyong kalaban.

Your opponent will, a bit like in a game of poker or something.

Ang iyong kalaban ay, medyo tulad ng sa isang laro ng poker o isang bagay.

Anna: Poker face.

Luke: Your opponent will...yeah, use poker face or you, you maybe use your opponent's

Anna: Poker face.

Luke: Ang kalaban mo ay...oo, gumamit ka ng poker face o ikaw, baka gamitin mo ang

first impressions of you against them.

unang impresyon sayo ng kalaban mo laban sa kanila.

So every now and then YouTube will suggest these chess videos to me.

Kaya paminsan-minsan ay imumungkahi sa akin ng YouTube ang mga video na ito ng chess.

Anna: Oh, right.

Luke: And it's, there's a girl, I can't remember her name now, unfortunately,

Anna: O sige. Luke: At ito ay, may isang babae, hindi ko matandaan ang kanyang pangalan ngayon, sa kasamaang-palad,

but she is sort of in her twenties.

ngunit siya ay medyo nasa twenties.

I think both her parents were chess grandmasters.

Sa tingin ko ang mga magulang niya ay mga grandmaster ng chess.

Anna: Right.

Luke: And so she's fairly like, so she goes to these chess games in the park,

Anna: Tama. Luke: At kaya siya ay medyo tulad, kaya siya ay pumunta sa mga laro ng chess sa parke,

you know, in like New York or other cities in the States where there are

alam mo, sa tulad ng New York o iba pang mga lungsod sa States kung saan mayroong

these guys who spend their whole day there playing chess with each other.

mga taong ito na gumugol ng kanilang buong araw doon sa paglalaro ng chess sa isa't isa.

And they do a lot of like trash talking.

At marami silang ginagawa tulad ng trash talking.

While they're playing the game, these guys are trash talking and sort

Habang nilalaro nila ang laro, ang mga taong ito ay nagsasalita ng basura at uri

of, you know, bantering and sort of talking up their game quite a lot.

ng, alam mo, nagbibiro at medyo pinag-uusapan ang kanilang laro.

And this girl comes in, she doesn't look like she's gonna be a chess grandmaster.

At pumasok ang babaeng ito, mukhang hindi siya magiging grandmaster ng chess.

And so these guys are super confident and they totally underestimate her

At kaya ang mga taong ito ay sobrang tiwala at lubos nilang minamaliit siya

and they trash talk her and stuff.

at pinag-uusapan nila siya at iba pa.

And she like gives quite a good trash talk back.

At gusto niyang ibalik ang isang magandang trash talk.

It's really interesting to watch.

Nakakatuwang panoorin.

I don't really, I don't understand what's going on on the board, you can

Hindi ko talaga, hindi ko maintindihan kung ano ang nangyayari sa board, makikita mo

see the board on the screen as well.

rin ang board sa screen.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: I don't understand it.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Hindi ko maintindihan.

I can't work out the moves, but it's interesting just to see the behaviour

I can't work out the moves, but it's interesting just to see the behavior

of these opponents of hers change where they're like giving it...

of these opponents of her change where they're like giving it...

Anna: The realisation.

Anna: The realization.

Luke: Yeah, they're giving it all this really, really overconfident talk.

Luke: Yeah, they're giving it all this really, really overconfident talk.

And then after about five or six moves, they changed totally.

At pagkatapos ng mga lima o anim na galaw, sila ay nagbago nang lubusan.

And they're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, this is gonna, this is gonna be difficult.

At parang, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, ito ay magiging, ito ay magiging mahirap.

Oh, this is gonna be difficult.

Oh, ito ay magiging mahirap.

Oh, you don't move on me now.

Oh, hindi ka nagmo-move on sa akin ngayon.

You know, all this kind of thing.

Alam mo, lahat ng ganitong bagay.

And it's just really funny to see the interaction and to see how they deal with

At nakakatuwa lang na makita ang pakikipag-ugnayan at makita kung paano nila haharapin

the fact that actually she's really good.

ang katotohanang talagang magaling siya.

And often it's only within about four or five moves that they can work out that

At madalas sa loob lang ng apat o limang galaw lang nila nagagawa na

she's really, she really knows what she's doing and they work it out just when

siya talaga, alam niya talaga ang ginagawa niya and they work it out just when the

the within a few moves and you think, my God, the way these guys are playing,

within a few moves and you think, my God, the way these guys are playing ,

they're just like thinking so far ahead.

parang ang layo lang ng iniisip nila.

You know all the possibilities.

Alam mo lahat ng posibilidad.

It is like kind of like you have to have a very mathematical mind in a way

Ito ay tulad ng uri na kailangan mong magkaroon ng isang napaka-matematika na pag-iisip sa isang paraan

to be able to do all these different algorithms and calculations all instantly.

upang magawa ang lahat ng iba't ibang algorithm at kalkulasyon na ito kaagad.

Amazing.

Yeah.

Kahanga-hanga.

Oo.

Anna: So it's like being, what's the term?

Anna: So parang pagiging, ano ang term?

Like being a card shark.

Tulad ng pagiging card shark.

If someone or, there's a term, or like when people come in to play pool and

Kung may tao o, may termino, o tulad ng pagpasok ng mga tao para maglaro ng pool at

they put some money down and say...

naglagay sila ng pera at sasabihing...

Luke: Hustler.

Luke: Hustler.

Anna: A hustler.

That's it.

Anna: Isang hustler.

Ayan yun.

You can hustle people and be like, oh yeah, I don't really know what I'm doing,

Maaari kang makipagsiksikan sa mga tao at maging tulad ng, oh yeah, hindi ko talaga alam kung ano ang ginagawa ko,

but let's put a hundred pounds on it.

ngunit lagyan natin ito ng isang daang pounds.

A hundred pounds?

Isang daang libra?

Yeah, sure.

Oo, sigurado.

And then you're like, I'm amazing.

At saka ikaw ay tulad ng, ako ay kamangha-manghang.

I'm gonna win.

mananalo ako.

Luke: Yeah.

Or you lose your first game on purpose and you're like, you

Luke: Oo. O kusa kang matalo sa iyong unang laro at parang,

know what, I wanna try again.

alam mo kung ano, gusto kong subukang muli.

You know, I'm enjoying this.

Alam mo, nag-eenjoy ako dito.

Let's raise the stakes.

Taasan natin ang pusta.

Let's do it for $500 this time.

Gawin natin ito sa halagang $500 sa pagkakataong ito.

And they're like, sure, okay.

At sila ay tulad ng, sigurado, okay.

If you really want to, you know, maybe I can teach you a thing or two.

Kung talagang gusto mo, alam mo, marahil maaari kong ituro sa iyo ang isang bagay o dalawa.

And then they really raise their game and suddenly they've made

At pagkatapos ay talagang itinaas nila ang kanilang laro at bigla silang gumawa

loads of money from those people.

ng maraming pera mula sa mga taong iyon.

Yeah.

Oo.

Anna: Pow!

Talking about money, how much do you think the most expensive

Anna: Pow! Pag-uusapan tungkol sa pera, sa tingin mo magkano ang pinakamahal na

chessboard in the world is?

chessboard sa mundo?

'Cause you can get all sorts of different, like gorgeous chess

'Dahil maaari kang makakuha ng lahat ng uri ng iba't ibang, tulad ng napakarilag na chess

boards, but what's the most expensive?

board, ngunit ano ang pinakamahal?

Luke: The most expensive chess board in the world?

Luke: Ang pinakamahal na chess board sa mundo?

Anna: In dollars, let's do it in dollars.

Anna: Sa dolyar, gawin natin ito sa dolyar.

Luke: I dunno.

Luke: Ewan ko ba.

I mean, we talked about the most expensive Monopoly board being...

Ibig kong sabihin, napag-usapan namin ang tungkol sa pinakamahal na Monopoly board na...

Anna: Which was crazy.

Anna: Nakakabaliw.

Luke: $2 million.

Luke: $2 milyon.

I think the chess board's gonna be more, I'd say it's gonna be $5 million.

Sa tingin ko ang chess board ay magiging higit pa, sasabihin kong ito ay magiging $5 milyon.

All made of pure diamond,

Lahat ay gawa sa purong brilyante,

Anna: You can double that or just about double it.

Anna: Maaari mong doblehin iyon o halos doblehin lang.

$9.8 million is the most expensive.

$9.8 milyon ang pinakamahal.

It's a Jewel Royale chessboard.

Isa itong Jewel Royale chessboard.

And the pieces are obviously quite heavy.

At ang mga piraso ay halatang medyo mabigat.

They're made of pure gold.

Gawa sila sa purong ginto.

So they're not gold plated.

Kaya hindi sila gold plated.

Luke: Wow.

Anna: They made a pure gold and encrusted with diamonds and other precious gems.

Luke: Wow. Anna: Gumawa sila ng purong ginto at nilagyan ng mga diamante at iba pang mahahalagang hiyas.

Luke: Jesus!

Luke: Hesus!

Anna: And it all, it would probably be like too magnificent to play with.

Anna: At lahat ng ito, malamang na napakaganda kung paglaruan.

You just look at it, keep it in a locked cabinet.

Tignan mo lang, itago mo sa naka-lock na cabinet.

Luke: It does raise the question, why buy that if you're not even gonna, like,

Luke: It does raise the question, why buy that if you're not even gonna, like,

it's an object that's designed to be played and you're just gonna leave it.

it's a object that's designed to play and you're just gonna leave it.

Anna: Well, it'd be a statement, wouldn't it?

Anna: Well, ito ay isang pahayag, hindi ba?

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: Don't touch the chessboard.

Anna: Huwag hawakan ang chessboard.

Very good.

I do like to have a nice chessboard.

Napakahusay.

Gusto kong magkaroon ng magandang chessboard.

I have bought chessboards as gifts for people.

Bumili ako ng mga chessboard bilang regalo para sa mga tao.

I think it is something nice to have in the house.

Sa tingin ko ito ay isang bagay na magandang magkaroon sa bahay.

Just, you know, like having a globe.

Basta, alam mo, tulad ng pagkakaroon ng globo.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: In the house, which, you know, opens up to reveal the drink.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Sa bahay, na, alam mo, bumukas upang ipakita ang inumin.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: I don't drink very much anymore, but I used to have one of those.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: Hindi na ako masyadong umiinom, pero dati meron na akong ganyan.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: Having a nice chessboard.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Ang pagkakaroon ng magandang chessboard.

I think they, these are just nice pieces of, not furniture, but

Sa tingin ko sila, ito ay mga magagandang piraso lamang, hindi kasangkapan, ngunit

things to have around the house.

mga bagay na dapat magkaroon sa paligid ng bahay.

Luke: Absolutely.

Luke: Talagang. Oo.

Yeah.

Chessboards, they can be very beautiful things indeed.

Mga chessboard, maaari silang maging napakagandang bagay.

That's true.

Totoo yan.

And there's something very satisfying about the objects if

At mayroong isang bagay na lubhang kasiya-siya tungkol sa mga bagay kung

they're very nicely made, yeah.

ang mga ito ay napakahusay na ginawa, oo.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo. At isa pang klasiko, siyempre, na pinag-usapan namin sa iyong podcast ay Monopoly.

And another classic, of course, which we talked about on your podcast is Monopoly.

Now, I'm not gonna go deep into this, but this is the kind of game that can

Ngayon, hindi na ako magpapalalim dito, ngunit ito ang uri ng laro na

really bring families together and teach them some really good lessons, but also

talagang makapagsasama-sama ng mga pamilya at magtuturo sa kanila ng ilang magagandang aral, ngunit

has a reputation for tearing families apart and causing horrendous arguments.

may reputasyon din ito sa pagwasak-watak ng mga pamilya at nagdudulot ng kakila-kilabot na pagtatalo.

But there is a really interesting fact about Monopoly that we didn't

Ngunit may isang talagang kawili-wiling katotohanan tungkol sa Monopoly na hindi namin

cover in your podcast, so it might be good to touch on now.

saklaw sa iyong podcast, kaya't maaaring magandang hawakan ngayon.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: In World War II, the Nazis let allied prisoners, prisoners

Anna: Noong Ikalawang Digmaang Pandaigdig, hinayaan ng mga Nazi ang mga kaalyadong bilanggo, mga bilanggo

of war, play board games.

ng digmaan, na maglaro ng mga board game.

Luke: That's nice of them.

Luke: Ang ganda nila.

Anna: Yeah, it's very nice of them.

Anna: Oo, napakabait nila.

Luke: How nice of them.

Luke: Ang ganda nila.

Anna: So the British government was even allowed to send some of these games

Anna: Kaya pinahintulutan ang gobyerno ng Britanya na magpadala ng ilan sa mga larong ito

to the soldiers who were incarcerated.

sa mga sundalong nakakulong.

So, the government kind of worked with the game producers.

Kaya, ang gobyerno ay nakipagtulungan sa mga producer ng laro.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: To hide items and like real money within the game.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Upang itago ang mga item at tulad ng totoong pera sa loob ng laro.

So in the stash of paper money, they'd hide real bills.

Kaya sa pagtatago ng pera sa papel, itatago nila ang totoong mga perang papel.

Luke: Okay.

Luke: Okay.

Anna: And then rather than the kind of the tokens, the pieces that you'd

Anna: At saka sa halip na ang uri ng mga token, ang mga piraso na

play with, they gave them like little things that they could use to escape,

laruin mo, binigay nila sa kanila ang mga maliliit na bagay na magagamit nila para makatakas,

like, lock picks and things like that.

tulad ng, mga lock pick at mga bagay na ganoon.

Luke: Oh my gosh.

Luke: Ay naku.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo.

And files so they could like file their way out of their chains or whatever,

At mga file para magustuhan nila ang paglabas ng kanilang mga kadena o kung ano pa man,

Luke: Sort of like hidden within the within the box or

Luke: Parang nakatago sa loob ng kahon o

within the board or something.

sa loob ng board o isang bagay.

Or even the little items themselves could be used to like file away

O kahit na ang mga maliliit na bagay sa kanilang sarili ay maaaring gamitin upang i-file

the bars of a jail or something.

ang mga bar ng isang kulungan o isang bagay.

Anna: It says here, oh compasses.

Anna: Sabi dito, oh compass.

Luke: Wow.

Luke: Wow.

And they actually used them to escape.

At talagang ginamit nila ang mga ito para makatakas.

That's, yeah, incredible.

Iyan ay, oo, hindi kapani-paniwala.

Anna: Okay, so I'm gonna move on quickly 'cause I know that

Anna: Okay, so I'm gonna move on fast 'cause I know that

you are pressed for time.

you are pressed for time.

I love that expression.

Gusto ko ang expression na iyon.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: To be pressed for time.

Luke: Mm-hmm. Anna: Para mapilitan ng oras.

You are running short on it.

Kapos ka na dito.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: So, some of the more unusual games that I would still call classics because

Luke: Oo. Anna: Kaya, ang ilan sa mga hindi pangkaraniwang laro na tatawagin ko pa ring mga klasiko dahil

they were a big part of my childhood.

ang mga ito ay isang malaking bahagi ng aking pagkabata.

The first is Kerplunk.

Ang una ay Kerplunk.

Did you ever play Kerplunk?

Naglaro ka na ba ng Kerplunk?

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Yeah.

We had a Kerplunk game at my grandma's house.

Oo. Nagkaroon kami ng laro ng Kerplunk sa bahay ng aking lola.

Anna: Yeah, and this is quite unusual.

Anna: Oo, at ito ay medyo hindi karaniwan.

It's not a typical board game, although it is listed as a board game.

Hindi ito isang pangkaraniwang board game, bagama't nakalista ito bilang isang board game.

It's like a plastic tube with, and you shove loads of plastic

Ito ay tulad ng isang plastik na tubo na may, at nagtulak ka ng maraming plastik

straws to block the tube.

na straw upang harangan ang tubo.

And then...

At pagkatapos...

Luke: Yeah.

Lots of, yeah...

Luke: Oo. Marami, oo...

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: Loads of plastic needles kind of thing stuck inside

Anna: Oo. Luke: Ang daming plastic na karayom ​​na nakaipit sa loob ng

little holes in the tube.

maliliit na butas sa tubo.

Anna: Yeah.

Yeah.

Very long ones.

Anna: Oo. Oo.

Napakahaba.

And they're not sharp, are they?

At hindi sila matalas, di ba?

They're child safe.

Ligtas silang bata.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo. Anna: At pagkatapos ay ikaw, at hinaharangan nila ang daan patungo sa ilalim nitong tulad ng tubo, at

Anna: And then you, and they block the way to the bottom of this like tube, and

then you pour loads of marbles in the top.

pagkatapos ay nagbuhos ka ng maraming marmol sa itaas.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: And then the idea is to remove these kind of straws or needles

Anna: At pagkatapos ang ideya ay tanggalin ang mga ganitong uri ng mga straw o karayom

without dislodging any of the marbles.

​​nang hindi naalis ang alinman sa mga marbles.

And at some point you remove a needle and some marbles come crashing down.

At sa ilang mga punto ay aalisin mo ang isang karayom ​​at ilang mga marbles ay bumabagsak.

But that's not the end of the game.

Ngunit hindi iyon ang katapusan ng laro.

It's only the end when all the marbles have fallen.

Ito ay lamang ang katapusan kapag ang lahat ng mga marbles ay nahulog.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: So you have to get to the end without having too many marbles.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Kaya kailangan mong makarating sa dulo nang hindi masyadong maraming marbles.

Luke: If you're the one who lets the last marble fall, you lose.

Luke: Kung ikaw ang hahayaang mahulog ang huling marmol, talo ka.

Yeah.

Oo.

Yeah.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: So it's kind of along the lines of like the Jenga, you

Oo. Anna: Oo.

Luke: So it's kind of along the lines of like the Jenga, you

know, game that everyone knows.

know, game na alam ng lahat.

Jenga.

And also there's another one where you have these sticks with different colours

Jenga.

At mayroon ding isa kung saan mayroon kang mga stick na ito na may iba't ibang kulay

and you let the sticks all fall in a pile and then you have to pick up the sticks

at hinahayaan mong mahulog ang lahat ng mga stick sa isang tumpok at pagkatapos ay kailangan mong kunin ang mga stick

without letting the other sticks move.

nang hindi hinayaang gumalaw ang iba pang mga stick.

Anna: Oh, I haven't played that one.

Anna: Ay, hindi ko pa nilalaro yan.

Luke: Yeah, they play it in France quite a lot.

Luke: Oo, madalas nila itong nilalaro sa France.

So you get a bunch of these sticks.

Kaya makakakuha ka ng isang grupo ng mga stick na ito.

They've got different colours on them that represent different points.

Mayroon silang iba't ibang kulay sa mga ito na kumakatawan sa iba't ibang mga punto.

Anna: Right.

Luke: Some of them are more valuable than others, and you have to very

Anna: Tama. Luke: Ang ilan sa mga ito ay mas mahalaga kaysa sa iba, at kailangan mong maingat na

carefully take the sticks away from the pile without letting the others move.

alisin ang mga patpat mula sa tumpok nang hindi hinayaang gumalaw ang iba.

And it's really interesting.

At ito ay talagang kawili-wili.

You can use other sticks to help you prise them off.

Maaari kang gumamit ng iba pang mga stick upang matulungan kang bigyang halaga ang mga ito.

Anna: Ahh.

Luke: They've got pointed ends, so you can press your finger down on the end and

Anna: Ahh. Luke: Mayroon silang mga matulis na dulo, kaya maaari mong idiin ang iyong daliri sa dulo at

it makes the stick lift off the table.

iangat nito ang stick mula sa mesa.

But it's not really a pub game because if you've had a couple of drinks, then you're

Ngunit hindi talaga ito laro sa pub dahil kung nakainom ka ng ilang beses, parang ikaw

like, oh, let's play the stick game.

, oh, laro tayo ng stick.

And then, you know, you've got to be very careful when you play it.

At pagkatapos, alam mo, kailangan mong maging maingat kapag nilalaro mo ito.

Anna: Is it called Pick Up Sticks?

Anna: Pick Up Sticks ba ang tawag dito?

Luke: I can't remember.

Maybe, maybe, maybe that's the UK version.

Luke: Hindi ko na maalala.

Siguro, marahil, marahil iyon ang bersyon ng UK.

I dunno, I can't remember what they call it in France now.

Ewan ko, hindi ko na matandaan kung ano ang tawag nila dito sa France ngayon.

Anna: Well, the being very careful reminds me of one of my most fun games

Anna: Well, ang pagiging maingat ay nagpapaalala sa akin ng isa sa aking pinakanakakatuwang laro

of my childhood is the game of Operation.

ng aking pagkabata ay ang laro ng Operasyon.

Luke: Oh, God.

Luke: Ay, Diyos ko.

Can't stand it.

Hindi makatiis.

Anna: What, do you get nervous?

Anna: Ano, kinakabahan ka ba?

Luke: Just can't stand Operation.

Luke: Hindi lang makatiis Operation.

Can't do it.

Anna: Why?

Hindi ko magawa.

Anna: Bakit?

Luke: It's just horrible.

Luke: Grabe lang.

Like, I don't know.

Parang, hindi ko alam.

Again, maybe I had a bad experience of playing it with other kids when I

Muli, marahil ay nagkaroon ako ng masamang karanasan sa paglalaro nito kasama ng ibang mga bata noong

was young and it was just, you know, one of those times when you're at

bata pa ako at ito ay, alam mo, isa sa mga oras na nasa

someone's house and it was horrible.

bahay ka ng isang tao at ito ay kakila-kilabot.

But nah, nah, no.

Pero nah, nah, hindi.

Anna: One very fun game that I'm sure you would like is Hungry Hippos.

Anna: Isang napakasayang laro na sigurado akong gusto mo ay ang Hungry Hippos.

Luke: Hungry Hippos.

Luke: Gutom na Hippos.

Yeah.

Oo.

It's fun to an extent.

Ito ay masaya sa isang lawak.

Anna: Well, as much as bashing on a lever.

Anna: Well, kasing dami ng bashing sa isang pingga.

Luke: Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

Luke: Putok, putok, putok, putok, putok, putok, putok.

Yeah.

Bang, bang, bang.

Oo. Bang Bang Bang.

Get the hippos to eat all of the red balls.

Kunin ang mga hippos na kainin ang lahat ng pulang bola.

If they get yellow balls, that's even better.

Kung makakuha sila ng mga dilaw na bola, mas mabuti iyon.

Right?

Because there's red balls and a couple of yellow balls in there

tama?

Dahil may mga pulang bola at ilang dilaw na bola

too, which are worth more points.

din doon, na nagkakahalaga ng higit pang mga puntos.

And dang dang dang dang dang dang dang, that's good for, for me now 10 minutes

At dang dang dang dang dang dang dang, buti na lang, para sa akin ngayon 10 minutes

maximum is all I can ta ta ta ta.

maximum lang ang kaya kong ta ta ta ta.

And then I'm like, ah, you know what, let's, can we just,

At saka ako parang, ah, you know what, let's, can we just,

can we play Monopoly instead?

can we play Monopoly instead?

Anna: Yeah, my sons love to play it over and over and over again.

Anna: Oo, gustong-gusto ng aking mga anak na laruin ito nang paulit-ulit.

But then they also like stashing.

Ngunit pagkatapos ay gusto din nila ang pagtatago.

So at one point, my two year old would just start taking the marbles while

Kaya sa isang punto, ang aking dalawang taong gulang ay magsisimulang kumuha ng mga marbles habang

I'm playing with my four year old and putting them in different places.

nakikipaglaro ako sa aking apat na taong gulang at inilalagay ang mga ito sa iba't ibang lugar.

Like one in the kitchen.

Parang isa sa kusina.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: One inside the crocodile's mouth.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Isa sa loob ng bibig ng buwaya.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Isa sa aparador.

Anna: One in the cupboard.

And I'm just like, where have all the marbles gone?

And I'm just like, saan napunta lahat ng marbles?

What's happened?

Anong nangyari?

Luke: Another reason why the game makes me uncomfortable.

Luke: Isa pang dahilan kung bakit hindi ako komportable sa laro.

Just it's quite a messy game.

Ito ay medyo magulo na laro.

It's just, uh...

Kaya lang, uh...

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: No, it makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Luke: Hindi, medyo hindi ako komportable.

Uncomfortable and stressed.

Hindi komportable at stressed.

A bit like Operation.

Medyo parang Operation.

Anna: Yes.

Well, one very messy game that you might not have heard of is Monster Mash.

Anna: Oo.

Well, isang napakagulong laro na maaaring hindi mo pa narinig ay ang Monster Mash.

Luke: No, don't know it, no.

Luke: Hindi, hindi ko alam, hindi.

Anna: So I've never been able to find this, but we played it as kids, and it's

Anna: Kaya't hindi ko pa nahanap ito, ngunit nilalaro namin ito bilang mga bata, at ito ay

basically you each have a big lump of Play-Doh with a monster's head stuck

karaniwang bawat isa ay may malaking bukol ng Play-Doh na may ulo ng halimaw na nakadikit

in the top, and that's your piece.

sa tuktok, at iyon ang iyong piraso.

And you just go round a very basic board when you are rolling the dice and

At umiikot ka lang sa isang napaka-basic na board kapag nagpapagulong-gulong ka at

when you land on someone, you just mash your monster on top of their monster

kapag napunta ka sa isang tao, i-mash mo lang ang iyong halimaw sa ibabaw ng kanilang halimaw

and kind of just take over them, like the Body Snatchers and your monster

at tipong sakupin mo lang sila, tulad ng Body Snatchers at ang iyong halimaw

becomes twice as big and that person is out because you've just mashed

ay nagiging dalawang beses. malaki at wala ang taong iyon dahil minasa mo lang

them, until you become this humongous, four piece, four-bodied monster having

sila, hanggang sa maging ganito ka humongous, apat na piraso, apat na katawan na halimaw na minasa

mashed the other players on the board.

ang iba pang mga manlalaro sa board.

Luke: Okay.

Luke: Okay.

Yeah.

Again, no, not for me because like Play-Doh, of all the kids' toys,

Oo. Muli, hindi, hindi para sa akin dahil tulad ng Play-Doh, sa lahat ng laruan ng mga bata,

Play-Doh is not one of my, I can't, no.

ang Play-Doh ay hindi isa sa akin, hindi ko kaya, hindi.

Anna: Really?

Luke: Nah, no.

Anna: Talaga? Luke: Naku, hindi.

Anna: Wow.

Luke: It's too messy.

Anna: Wow.

Luke: Masyadong magulo.

And it makes me feel uncomfortable.

At hindi ako komportable.

Anna: It is messy.

Anna: Ang gulo.

It is messy.

Ito ay magulo.

I love Play-Doh.

Gustung-gusto ko ang Play-Doh.

I think the kids have a really great time with Play-Doh.

Sa tingin ko, napakasaya ng mga bata sa Play-Doh.

It keeps them quiet.

Pinapatahimik sila nito.

So we always take Play-Doh in the backpack when we're at

Kaya lagi naming dinadala ang Play-Doh sa backpack kapag nasa

restaurants or going out somewhere.

restaurant kami o lumalabas sa kung saan.

Luke: Yeah.

Yeah.

Luke: Oo. Oo.

Anna: And they just play for hours with the Play-Doh.

Anna: At naglalaro lang sila ng ilang oras sa Play-Doh.

My sister-in-law said, "I hate Play-Doh".

Sabi ng hipag ko, "I hate Play-Doh".

Just like you.

Katulad mo.

It's too messy, too messy.

Masyadong magulo, masyadong magulo.

But then asked, what would your children like as a present for Christmas?

Ngunit pagkatapos ay nagtanong, ano ang gusto ng iyong mga anak bilang regalo sa Pasko?

And I said, they love Play-Doh.

At sabi ko, gusto nila ang Play-Doh.

How about like a Play-Doh Set?

Paano kung tulad ng isang Play-Doh Set?

Play-Doh do all kinds of sets.

Ginagawa ng Play-Doh ang lahat ng uri ng set.

So why not maybe like the dentist set where the Play-Doh are the teeth

Kaya bakit hindi siguro tulad ng set ng dentista kung saan ang Play-Doh ang mga ngipin

and they can practise dental hygiene.

at maaari silang magpraktis ng kalinisan ng ngipin.

Oral hygiene.

Kalinisan sa bibig.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: Or maybe the pizza making set.

Luke: Mm-hmm.

Anna: O di kaya ang set ng paggawa ng pizza.

She's like, "Leave it with me.

She's like, "Leave it with me.

I'll sort it out.

Aayusin ko.

I don't like play by myself.

Hindi ako mahilig maglaro mag-isa.

It's too messy, but leave it with me."

Masyadong magulo, pero iwan mo sa akin."

Guess what she got?

Hulaan mo kung ano ang nakuha niya?

Luke: The messiest Play-Doh set she could find.

Luke: Ang pinakamagulong set ng Play-Doh na makikita niya.

Anna: It's the hoover Play-Doh set where you have a sprinkler that makes

Anna: Ito ang hoover na Play-Doh set kung saan mayroon kang sprinkler na ginagawang

tiny, teeny weeny, little teeny pieces of Play-Doh and spreads it all over so

maliit, maliit, maliit, maliit. maliliit na piraso ng Play-Doh at ikinakalat ito sa lahat ng dako upang

that then you can then hoover it up.

pagkatapos ay maaari mo itong i-hoover.

But the hoover is, you know, there's no way to take it apart.

Ngunit ang hoover ay, alam mo, walang paraan upang paghiwalayin ito.

And so it's just full of Play-Doh.

At kaya ito ay puno lamang ng Play-Doh.

So if you want to save any of the Play-Doh and to work again,

Kaya kung ikaw Gusto mong i-save ang alinman sa Play-Doh at upang gumana muli,

you have to pick it all out.

kailangan mong piliin ang lahat.

It's horrific.

Nakakatakot.

Luke: Oh, stop.

Luke: Oh, tumigil ka. Parang ang pinakamasama kong bangungot.

It sounds like my worst nightmare.

Like a game that's designed to turn Play-Doh into Play-Doh dust.

Parang isang laro na idinisenyo upang gawing Play ang Play-Doh -Doh dust.

Uh oh.

Uh oh.

Oh, no, no.

Ay, hindi, hindi. Hindi

Can't.

.

Can't do it.

Anna: Yeah.

Hindi kaya.

Anna: Oo.

Okay, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring it to a close 'cause I know

Okay, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring to close 'cause I know

you are, you've got no more time.

you are , wala ka nang oras.

Oh yeah.

But, one of the more recent players in the gaming market is one

Ay oo. Ngunit, isa sa mga pinakahuling manlalaro sa merkado ng pasugalan ay isa

that's caused a lot of hilarity.

na nagdulot ng maraming katuwaan.

And it's Cards against Humanity.

At ito ay Cards against Humanity.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo. Hindi laro ng bata.

Not a kid's game.

So going from Play-Doh and Hungry Hippos and Operation, which are absolutely

Kaya pupunta mula sa Play-Doh at Hungry Hippos and Operation, na talagang

children's games to Cards Against Humanity, which is definitely one to play

mga larong pambata hanggang sa Cards Against Humanity, na talagang laruin

when the kids are in bed fast asleep.

kapag ang mga bata ay natutulog nang mahimbing.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Oo. Luke: Oo.

Anna: Yeah.

It is a set of cards that are just a lot of them.

Anna: Oo. Ito ay isang set ng mga card na marami lang sa kanila.

It's just filth, right?

Puro dungis lang diba?

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: It's the kind of thing that will shock and yeah, just...

Luke: Oo. Anna: It's the kind of thing na magugulat and yeah, just...

Luke: Disgust.

Luke: Disgust.

Anna: Yeah.

Anna: Oo.

Yeah.

Oo.

Luke: It's the most shocking and disgusting and offensive

Luke: Ito ang pinaka nakakagulat at nakakadiri at nakakasakit na

stuff that they could think of.

bagay na maiisip nila.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: That they put into the game.

Anna: Oo. Luke: Na inilagay nila sa laro.

Yeah.

Oo.

Anna: Yeah, yeah.

Anna: Oo, oo.

I've had a few awkward evenings with people, like neighbours that we're just

Nakaranas ako ng ilang awkward na gabi kasama ang mga tao, tulad ng mga kapitbahay na

trying to get to know, and they're like, should we play Cards Against Humanity?

sinusubukan lang nating kilalanin, at sila ay tulad ng, dapat ba tayong maglaro ng Cards Against Humanity?

Yeah, sure.

Oo, sigurado.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo.

Anna: Awkward.

Anna: Awkward.

Very awkward.

Or grandma, um, I saw this new game, apparently it's quite popular.

Napaka awkward.

O lola, um, nakita ko itong bagong laro, tila sikat ito.

Could we play?

Pwede ba tayong maglaro?

Luke: It's got a very high rating on Amazon.

Luke: Mayroon itong napakataas na rating sa Amazon.

Anna: Okay, grandma.

Anna: Okay po lola.

What, what does this word mean?

Ano, ano ang ibig sabihin ng salitang ito?

Maybe don't Google that, grandma.

Huwag naman siguro i-Google yan lola.

Luke: So how does Cards Against Humanity work again?

Luke: Kaya paano gumagana muli ang Cards Against Humanity?

It's basically, I can't remember now, yeah.

Ito ay karaniwang, hindi ko na matandaan ngayon, oo.

Anna: So it's something like creating sentences.

Anna: Kaya ito ay isang bagay tulad ng paglikha ng mga pangungusap.

Luke: Yeah.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Kailangan mong pagsamahin ang mga pangungusap.

Anna: You have to put sentences together.

It gives you some horrific endings or beginnings of sentences and you

Nagbibigay ito sa iyo ng ilang kakila-kilabot na pagtatapos o simula ng mga pangungusap at

have to complete it or something.

kailangan mong kumpletuhin ito o isang bagay.

Luke: Yeah, that's right.

Luke: Oo, tama iyan.

There's a, sort of a, the beginning of a statement, and then you've

Mayroong isang, uri ng isang, ang simula ng isang pahayag, at pagkatapos ay

got a number of cards in your hand.

mayroon kang isang bilang ng mga card sa iyong kamay.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: And you have to choose the card which you think is

Anna: Oo. Luke: At kailangan mong piliin ang card na sa tingin mo ay

best to complete that statement.

pinakamahusay para makumpleto ang pahayag na iyon.

And all the cards in your hand are horrible, offensive, rude things.

At lahat ng card sa iyong kamay ay kakila-kilabot, nakakasakit, mga bastos na bagay.

I mean, it's fun when you're with your friends, of course, because you

I mean, masaya kapag kasama mo ang mga kaibigan mo, siyempre, dahil

know, it's just a thing that makes everyone shocked and it's, you know,

alam mo, ito ay isang bagay na nakakagulat sa lahat at ito, alam mo,

it can be laugh out loud funny.

maaari itong tumawa ng malakas na nakakatawa.

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: You know, when you're with people that you know and you know

Anna: Mm-hmm.

Luke: Alam mo, kapag kasama mo ang mga taong kilala mo at alam mo

that there's no danger of offending anyone, it's all just for fun.

na walang panganib na masaktan ang sinuman, ang lahat ay katuwaan lamang.

And, you know, you can come out with some pretty hilarious and disgusting things.

At, alam mo, maaari kang lumabas sa ilang medyo masayang-maingay at kasuklam-suklam na mga bagay.

You pass your card in and the person whose turn it is reads out all of the

Ipapasa mo ang iyong card at babasahin ng taong may pagkakataon ang lahat ng

statements and then everyone decides which one they think is the best.

mga pahayag at pagkatapos ay magpapasya ang lahat kung alin sa tingin nila ang pinakamahusay.

Anna: Yes.

Anna: Oo.

Luke: And that person...

Anna: The one that's the funniest.

Luke: At yung taong yun... Anna: Yung pinaka nakakatawa.

Luke: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Luke: Oo, oo, oo, oo.

Anna: Yeah.

That one wins.

Anna: Oo. Panalo ang isang iyon.

Luke: Yeah, that's right.

Luke: Oo, tama iyan.

Anna: Yeah.

So on that note, thank you so much Luke for joining me.

Anna: Oo. Kaya sa tala na iyon, maraming salamat Luke sa pagsama sa akin.

Listeners, if you are interested in hearing a little bit more of a deep

Mga tagapakinig, kung interesado kang makarinig ng kaunti pa ng malalim

dive into Monopoly, then do head to the show notes to go and listen

sumisid sa Monopoly, pagkatapos ay pumunta sa mga tala ng palabas para makinig

to that other episode on Luke's channel, Luke's English Podcast.

sa isa pang episode sa channel ni Luke, ang English Podcast ni Luke.

Thank you so much.

Maraming salamat.

Luke: Thank you, Anna.

Luke: Salamat, Anna.

It's really good fun.

Napakasaya talaga.

I'd love to just play a board game now.

Gusto kong maglaro na lang ng board game ngayon.

Anna: Yeah.

Luke: But, gotta go, like, go to the supermarket and

Anna: Oo.

Luke: But, gotta go, like, pumunta sa supermarket tapos

then cook dinner, you know?

magluto ng hapunan, alam mo ba?

You know the way it is.

Anna: Yeah.

You got some important life stuff coming up, so, uh...

Alam mo ang paraan nito.

Anna: Oo. May paparating kang mahahalagang bagay sa buhay, kaya, uh...

Luke: Absolutely.

Luke: Talaga.

Anna: You've gotta get your game in order.

Anna: Kailangan mong ayusin ang iyong laro.

Luke: Yeah.

The real game of life.

Luke: Oo.

Ang totoong laro ng buhay.

Anna: The game of life.

Anna: Ang laro ng buhay.

Yeah.

Luke: Yeah.

Anna: Yeah.

Oo.

Luke: Oo. Anna: Oo.

Luke: Okay.

Anna: Okay.

Luke: Okay. Anna: Okay.

Thank you.

Luke: Alright, lovely to speak to you again, Anna.

Salamat. Luke: Okay, lovely to talk to you again, Anna.

Anna: And you, take care.

Anna: At ikaw, mag-iingat ka.

Luke: You too.

Luke: Ikaw din.

Anna: And bye.

Anna: At bye.

Luke: Bye-bye.

Luke: Bye-bye.