Dilip Ratha: The hidden force in global economics: sending money home

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譯者: Aaron Shoo 審譯者: Adrienne Lin
00:12
I live in Washington, D.C.,
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我住在華盛頓特區。
00:17
but I grew up in Sindhekela, a village in Orissa, in India.
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但我在「辛西克拉」長大,
這是印度奧里薩邦的一個村莊。
00:24
My father was a government worker.
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我爸是公務員。
00:28
My mother could not read or write, but she
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我媽不識字,
00:32
would say to me, "A king is worshipped only in his
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但她告訴我:
「一個國王只受他的子民景仰,
00:38
own kingdom. A poet is respected everywhere."
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但一名詩人會受眾人愛戴。」
00:44
So I wanted to be a poet when I grew up.
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所以我長大就想當詩人。
00:47
But I almost didn't go to college
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但我本來上不了大學,
直到一個阿姨資助我的學費。
00:52
until an aunt offered financial help.
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00:56
I went to study in Sambalpur,
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我在「桑巴坡」唸書,
00:58
the largest town in the region,
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那是邦裡的最大城。
01:02
where, already in college, I saw a television for the first time.
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那時,已經要上大學的我,
生平第一次看電視。
01:09
I had dreams of going to the United States
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我當時還想去美國進修。
01:12
for higher studies.
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01:14
When the opportunity came,
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所以機會一來,
01:16
I crossed two oceans, with borrowed money
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我就決定跨越兩大洋。
借錢買了機票,
01:19
for airfare and only a $20 bill in my pocket.
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口袋只剩一張 20 美元。
01:25
In the U.S., I worked in a research center,
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到了美國,
我在研究中心打工,
01:30
part-time, while taking graduate classes in economics.
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同時攻讀經濟研究所。
01:34
And with the little I earned, I would
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雖然賺得不多,
但扣掉自己的開銷,
01:40
finance myself and then I would send
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我還寄錢回家給爸爸、弟弟。
01:42
money home to my brother and my father.
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01:46
My story is not unique.
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我不是特例。
01:50
There are millions of people who migrate each year.
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每年有幾百萬的移工
01:54
With the help of the family, they cross oceans,
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靠著家人幫忙,
橫渡海洋、穿越沙漠、
01:58
they cross deserts, they cross rivers, they cross mountains.
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渡過溪流、翻過高山。
02:05
They risk their lives to realize a dream,
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他們用生命實現夢想,
02:09
and that dream is as simple as having a
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一個單純卑微的夢:
找份正當的工作,
02:12
decent job somewhere so they can send money home
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然後寄錢回家、幫忙分擔,
02:15
and help the family,
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02:17
which has helped them before.
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報答家人之前的幫忙。
02:21
There are 232 million international migrants in the world.
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全球有 2 億 3200 萬的移民。
他們住在出生地之外的陌生國度。
02:27
These are people who live in a country
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02:28
other than their country of birth.
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02:31
If there was a country made up of
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如果把所有移民
02:32
only international migrants,
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聚在一起變成一個國家,
02:34
that would be larger, in population,
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它的人口會比巴西還多。
02:36
than Brazil.
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02:37
That would be larger, in its size
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就經濟規模來說,
02:39
of the economy, than France.
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比法國還大。
02:43
Some 180 million of them, from poor countries,
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其中 1 億 8000 萬的弱勢國移民
02:47
send money home regularly.
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會固定寄錢回家鄉。
02:50
Those sums of money are called remittances.
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我們統稱這些錢為「僑匯」。
02:55
Here is a fact that might surprise you:
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告訴你驚人的事實:
02:59
413 billion dollars, 413 billion dollars
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4130 億美元
03:04
was the amount of remittances sent last year
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是去年發展中國家移民
03:07
by migrants to developing countries.
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寄回家的僑匯金額。
03:10
Migrants from developing countries,
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發展中國家的移工
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money sent to developing countries —
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把錢寄回發展中國家,
03:13
413 billion dollars.
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這金額高達 4130 億美元。
03:16
That's a remarkable number because
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會說「高達」是因為,
03:18
that is three times the size of
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這是已開發國家給予的
03:19
the total of development aid money.
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發展援助的三倍。
03:23
And yet, you and I,
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但是你和我,
03:27
my colleagues in Washington,
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還有我在華盛頓的同事,
03:28
we endlessly debate and
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以往不斷地辯證、
03:30
discuss about development aid,
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討論發展援助,
03:33
while we ignore remittances as small change.
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卻忽略僑匯帶來的改變。
03:37
True, people send 200 dollars per month,
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沒錯,每人平均每個月只寄 200 美元,
03:40
on average. But, repeated month after month,
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但幾百萬人、月復一月地寄,
03:44
by millions of people,
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03:46
these sums of money add up to rivers of foreign currency.
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累積成一筆可觀的外匯。
03:50
So India, last year, received 72 billion dollars, larger than
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像印度去年,
就收到 720 億美元僑匯,
03:55
its IT exports.
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比其 IT 產業的出口還要多。
03:58
In Egypt remittances are three times
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在埃及,僑匯相當於
04:01
the size of revenues from the Suez Canal.
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蘇伊士運河的 3 倍收入。
04:04
In Tajikistan, remittances are 42 percent of GDP.
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在塔吉克,僑匯佔 GDP 的 42%。
04:08
And in poorer countries, smaller countries, fragile countries,
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在更窮的、更小、更脆弱、
04:11
conflict-afflicted countries, remittances are a lifeline,
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受戰亂摧殘的國家,僑匯是命脈,
04:16
as in Somalia or in Haiti.
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像是索馬利亞或海地。
04:20
No wonder these flows have huge
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怪不得這股錢潮
對經濟和窮人有這麼大的影響。
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impacts on economies and on poor people.
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Remittances, unlike private investment money,
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僑匯和私人投資不一樣,
04:30
they don't flow back at the first
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它不會因為國家發生問題
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sign of trouble in the country.
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就停止流入;
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They actually act like an insurance.
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反而比較像保險。
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When the family is in trouble,
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如果家裡有困難,
04:40
facing hardship, facing hard times,
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碰到瓶頸、遇到難關,
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remittances increase, they act like an insurance.
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僑匯還會增加,像保險一樣;
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Migrants send more money then.
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移民寄更多錢回家。
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Unlike development aid money,
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跟發展援助不一樣,
04:49
that must go through official agencies,
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它不必透過公家單位、政府。
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through governments, remittances
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僑匯直接送到窮人手中、
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directly reach the poor,
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reach the family,
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送到家戶手中,
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and often with business advice.
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通常移工還教家人怎麼運用。
05:00
So in Nepal, the share of poor
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在尼泊爾,
1995 年窮人佔 42%,
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people was 42 percent in 1995,
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the share of poor people in the population.
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是窮人在總人口的比例。
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By 2005, a decade later, at a
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10 年後的 2005 年,
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time of political crisis, economic crisis,
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當政治、經濟危機四起,
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the share of poor people went down to 31 percent.
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窮人比例降到 31%。
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That decline in poverty, most of it,
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貧窮比例下降,很大一部份,
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about half of it, is believed to be
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至少一半以上歸功於
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because of remittances from India,
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來自印度或其他地方的僑匯。
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another poor country.
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In El Salvador, the school dropout
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在薩爾瓦多,
收到僑匯的家庭,
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rate among children is lower
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學童輟學率比較低。
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in families that receive remittances.
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In Mexico and Sri Lanka,
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在墨西哥和斯里蘭卡,
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the birth weight of children is higher
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收到僑匯的家庭,
嬰兒出生體重比較高。
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among families that receive remittances.
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Remittances are dollars wrapped with care.
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僑匯飽含著關懷。
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Migrants send money home for food,
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移工想讓家人買食物、
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for buying necessities, for building houses,
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買生活必需品、蓋房子,
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for funding education, for funding
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讓小孩子受教育、
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healthcare for the elderly, for business
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讓老人家看醫生、
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investments for friends and family.
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投資家人朋友做生意。
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Migrants send even more money home
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移工會為特殊情況寄更多錢回家,
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for special occasions like a surgery
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例如手術或婚禮。
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or a wedding. And migrants also send
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移工還會在更多時候,
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money, perhaps far too many times,
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為突如其來的葬禮寄錢回家,
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for unexpected funerals that
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彌補他們缺席的遺憾。
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they cannot attend.
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06:25
Much as these flows do all that good,
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僑匯能帶來以上的效益,
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there are barriers to these
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但僑匯還是會受到限制,
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flows of remittances, these
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400 billion dollars of remittances.
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限制這 4000 億美元的流動。
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Foremost among them is
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其中最主要的,
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the exorbitant cost of sending money home.
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是昂貴的寄送費用。
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Money transfer companies structure
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轉匯公司訂出高價
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their fees to milk the poor.
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去壓榨窮人。
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They will say, "Up to 500 dollars
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他們會說:「交易低於 500 美元,
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if you want to send, we will charge you
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如果要寄的話,固定收 30 美元。」
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30 dollars fixed."
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If you are poor and if you have only 200 dollars to send,
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如果你就是窮,只有 200 美元要寄,
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you have to pay that $30 fee.
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你就要付 30 塊的手續費。
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The global average cost of sending
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全球平均的轉匯費用是 8%。
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money is eight percent.
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07:03
That means you send 100 dollars,
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也就是如果你寄 100 塊,
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the family on the other side receives only
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遠鄉的家人只會收到 92 塊。
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92 dollars.
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To send money to Africa,
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如果是寄到非洲,
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the cost is even higher:
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收費更高,12%。
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12 percent.
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To send money within Africa,
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非洲國家間互寄
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the cost is even higher:
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收費還要再高,
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over 20 percent.
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達 20% 以上。
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For example, sending money from Benin to Nigeria.
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比如說從貝南寄到奈及利亞。
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And then there is the case of Venezuela, where,
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如果是委內瑞拉,
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because of exchange controls,
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因為外幣交易管制,
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you send 100 dollars and you
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寄 100 塊然後夠幸運的話,
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are lucky if the family on the other side
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你的家人可能還能收到 10 塊。
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receives even 10 dollars.
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Of course, nobody sends money to Venezuela
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理所當然,沒人用官方管道
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through the official channel.
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寄錢到委內瑞拉。
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It all goes in suitcases.
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都是偷偷裝皮箱運進去。
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Whereever costs are high,
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只要官方收費高,
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money goes underground.
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大家就走後門。
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And what is worse,
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更糟的是,
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many developing countries actually
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很多開發中國家其實
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have a blanket ban on sending money
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明文禁止私自匯錢到國外。
07:52
out of the country.
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07:54
Many rich nations also have a
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很多富裕國家也明文禁止
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blanket ban on sending money to specific countries.
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把錢匯到特定國家。
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So, is it that there are no options,
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所以真的別無選擇嗎?
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no better options, cheaper options, to send money?
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沒有更好、更便宜的方式轉匯?
08:06
There are.
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有。
08:07
M-Pesa in Kenya enables people to send money
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肯亞的 M-Pesa 公司讓大家
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and receive money at a fixed cost of only
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無論匯出或匯入,
每筆交易固定收 60 分。
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60 cents per transaction.
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08:16
U.S. Fed started a program with Mexico
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美國聯準會和墨西哥合作,
08:19
to enable money service businesses
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讓貨幣服務企業
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to send money to Mexico
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轉匯到墨西哥可以用
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for a fixed cost of only 67 cents per transaction.
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每筆交易固定收 67 分的費用。
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And yet, these faster, cheaper, better options
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然而,這些更快、更便宜、更好的方式,
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can't be applied internationally
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還是沒辦法普及到全球。
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because of the fear of money laundering,
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因為難免有洗錢的嫌疑。
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even though there is little data
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儘管沒什麼資料可以證明,
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to support any connection, any significant
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任何關聯、顯著的關聯,
08:42
connection between money laundering
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說明洗錢和這些小額僑匯有關。
08:43
and these small remittance transactions.
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08:49
Many international banks now
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現在很多跨國銀行
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are wary of hosting bank accounts
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留意到貨幣服務戶頭這塊業務,
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of money service businesses, especially
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特別是在索馬利亞。
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those serving Somalia.
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Somalia, a country where the
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索馬利亞的人均收入
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per capita income is only 250 dollars per year.
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是每年 250 美元。
一年才 250 美元喔!
09:09
Monthly remittances, on average, to Somalia
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每個月匯入的平均僑匯
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is larger than that amount.
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遠遠超過那個數字。
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Remittances are the lifeblood of Somalia.
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僑匯是索馬利亞的命脈。
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And yet, this is an example of
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但這就是一個例子:
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the right hand giving a lot of aid,
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人前說要幫助他們,
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while the left hand is cutting the lifeblood
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人後卻用管制的大刀,
09:26
to that economy, through regulations.
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切斷經濟活動的動脈。
09:32
Then there is the case of poor people from villages, like me.
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或是像我這種鄉下來的窮人,
09:36
In the villages, the only place where you can
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在小村子,
09:38
get money is through the post office.
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能領到錢的地方只有郵局。
09:41
Most of the governments in the world
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世界上大多數政府,
09:43
have allowed their post offices to have
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都會允許郵局
09:46
exclusive partnerships with money transfer companies.
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和轉匯公司有專屬合作關係。
09:49
So, if I have to send money to my
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所以若我想寄錢給鄉下的爸爸,
09:52
father in the village, I must send money
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我只能去找那間轉匯公司,
09:55
through that particular money transfer company,
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09:57
even if the cost is high.
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就算它收費很高。
09:59
I cannot go to a cheaper option.
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我沒得選。
10:03
This has to go.
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這必須要改變。
10:05
So, what can international organizations and
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所以國際組織和
10:07
social entrepreneurs do to reduce the cost
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社會企業要怎麼做,
10:09
of sending money home?
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才能改善這個現象呢?
10:11
First, relax regulations on small remittances under 1,000 dollars.
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首先,
放鬆千元以下的小額僑匯管制。
10:17
Governments should recognize that
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政府應該要認知到
10:19
small remittances are not money laundering.
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小額僑匯不是洗錢。
10:24
Second, governments should abolish exclusive partnerships
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其次,
政府應該要取消
郵局和特定業者的壟斷合作。
10:28
between their post office and the money transfer company.
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10:31
For that matter, between the post office
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如此一來,
郵局和其他大銀行的合作網路
10:33
and any national banking system that
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10:35
has a large network that serves the poor.
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才更能服務貧窮人口。
10:38
In fact, they should promote competition,
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事實上,應該增加競爭,
10:41
open up the partnership so that
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創造更多合作可能,
10:44
we will bring down costs like we did,
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才能讓成本下降,
10:47
like they did, in the telecommunications industry.
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就像現在的電信業服務。
10:51
You have seen what has happened there.
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大家都親身體驗到了。
10:54
Third, large nonprofit philanthropic organizations
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第三點,大型非營利慈善機構
10:59
should create a remittance platform
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應該在非營利的基礎上,
11:01
on a nonprofit basis.
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設立僑匯平台。
11:02
They should create a nonprofit
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創立非營利的僑匯平台,
11:03
remittance platform to serve the money transfer
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幫忙轉匯公司。
11:06
companies so that they can send money at a low cost,
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才能以較低的費用提供服務,
11:09
while complying with all the complex
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同時也符合各國間複雜的規定。
11:12
regulations all over the world.
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11:16
The development community should
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已開發國家也應該
11:18
set a goal of reducing remittance costs
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設立減少轉匯費用的目標:
11:20
to one percent from the current eight percent.
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從現在的 8% 到 1%。
11:23
If we reduce costs to one percent,
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如果能降到 1%,
11:25
that would release a saving of 30 billion dollars per year.
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每年就能多出 300 億美元。
11:30
Thirty billion dollars, that's larger than the entire
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300 億美元比他們每年
11:34
bilateral aid budget going to Africa per year.
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給非洲的雙邊援助還要多。
11:37
That is larger than, or almost similar to,
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至少相等甚至超過
11:40
the total aid budget of the United States government,
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全球最大的金援國,
11:43
the largest donor on the planet.
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美國政府的援助預算。
11:46
Actually, the savings would be larger
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事實上不只多 300 億,
11:48
than that 30 billion because remittance channels
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因為僑匯的管道
11:50
are also used for aid, trade and investment purposes.
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也會用做援助、貿易和投資用途。
11:55
Another major impediment to the
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另一個影響
11:58
flow of remittances reaching the family
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僑匯送達家戶的主要障礙,
12:00
is the large and exorbitant
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是為數眾多、高昂、非法的
12:03
and illegal cost of recruitment,
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仲介代辦費,
12:06
fees that migrants pay, migrant workers
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移工會付錢給仲介,
12:09
pay to laborers who found them the job.
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讓他們幫忙介紹工作。
12:12
I was in Dubai a few years ago.
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我幾年前在杜拜,
12:16
I visited a camp for workers.
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探視一個移工營。
12:18
It was 8 in the evening, dark, hot, humid.
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晚上 8 點,裡面又暗又熱又濕。
12:23
Workers were coming back from
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工人們才剛卸下
12:25
their grueling day of work,
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一整天工作的勞頓。
12:27
and I struck a conversation
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我和一個孟加拉來的
12:29
with a Bangladeshi construction worker.
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建築工人聊天。
12:32
He was preoccupied that he is sending
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他來工作就打算要寄錢回家。
12:35
money home, he has been
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12:36
sending money home for a few months now,
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他已經一連寄好幾個月了,
12:39
and the money is mostly going
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然後大部分的錢
12:41
to the recruitment agent, to the labor agent
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都付給帶他來杜拜和
12:44
who found him that job.
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幫他找工作的仲介。
12:45
And in my mind, I could picture
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我腦海中可以想像,
12:49
the wife waiting for
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他每個月等著錢的妻子。
12:50
the monthly remittance.
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12:52
The remittance arrives.
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當錢寄到家,
12:54
She takes the money and hands
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她拿著領到的錢交給仲介,
12:55
it over to the recruitment agent,
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12:59
while the children are looking on.
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然後孩子在旁邊目睹一切。
13:02
This has to stop.
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這必須停止。
13:05
It is not only construction workers from Bangladesh,
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不只是孟加拉來的建築工人,
13:10
it is all the workers. There are millions of migrant
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是對所有工人。
有數百萬的移工正面臨這種處境。
13:12
workers who suffer from this problem.
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13:15
A construction worker from Bangladesh,
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孟加拉來的建築工人,
13:16
on an average, pays about 4,000 dollars in recruitment fees
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每人平均要付 4000 美元仲介費,
13:20
for a job that gives him only 2,000 dollars per year in income.
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但他一年只賺 2000 美元。
13:26
That means that for the two years or three years
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意思就是生命中有兩三年,
13:28
of his life, he is basically sending money
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基本上就是寄錢回家,
13:32
to pay for the recruitment fees.
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直接付給仲介。
13:33
The family doesn't get to see any of it.
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家人連錢的影子都看不到。
13:37
It is not only Dubai, it is the dark
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不只在杜拜,這是全球各大都市
13:40
underbelly of every major city in the world.
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不能明說的苦。
13:43
It is not only Bangladeshi construction workers,
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不專屬孟加拉建築工人,
13:45
it is workers from all over the world.
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是全球移工共同的難題。
13:48
It is not only men.
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也不只是男人。
13:49
Women are especially vulnerable to
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女性更容易受仲介歪風迫害。
13:51
recruitment malpractices.
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13:55
One of the most exciting and newest
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僑匯領域一個最鼓舞人心、
最新的發展,
14:00
thing happening in the area of remittances
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14:02
is how to mobilize, through innovation,
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是如何用創新科技,
14:05
diaspora saving and diaspora giving.
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動員僑民儲蓄和捐贈。
14:08
Migrants send money home,
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移工要寄錢回家,
14:10
but they also save a large amount of
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但他們也會在
14:12
money where they live.
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自己工作的地點儲蓄。
14:14
Annually, migrant savings are estimated
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每年移工的儲蓄,
14:17
to be 500 billion dollars.
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估計有 5000 億美元。
14:21
Most of that money is parked in
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但大多都存在
14:23
bank deposits that give you zero percent interest rate.
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幾乎零利率的戶頭。
14:27
If a country were to come and offer a three percent
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如果有個國家決定
提供 3% 到 4% 的利率,
14:30
or four percent interest rate, and then say
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14:32
that the money would be used for building schools,
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然後把錢用在投資他們母國
蓋學校、鋪路、建機場、修鐵路,
14:35
roads, airports, train systems
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14:38
in the country of origin, a lot
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很多移工一定會
14:40
of migrants would be interested in
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樂於貢獻自己的一分力,
14:42
parting with their money because
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14:44
it's not only financial gains that
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因為他們貢獻的
14:46
give them an opportunity
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不只是錢,
14:48
to stay engaged with their country's development.
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還幫助了家鄉的發展。
14:53
Remittance channels can be used
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僑匯的管道還可以
14:55
to sell these bonds to migrants
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販售債券給移工。
15:00
because when they come
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因為他們每個月
15:01
on a monthly basis to send remittances,
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都會來匯錢,
15:02
that's when you can actually sell it to them.
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所以剛好可以推銷給他們。
15:05
You can also do the same
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同時也可以宣傳僑民捐獻。
15:06
for mobilizing diaspora giving.
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15:09
I would love to invest in a
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我很想投資印度的
15:12
bullet train system in India
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子彈列車系統,
15:14
and I would love to contribute to efforts
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我也很想在故鄉的
15:17
to fight malaria in my village.
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瘧疾防治上盡一份心力。
15:21
Remittances are a great way of
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僑匯是一個好方法,
15:25
sharing prosperity between places
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讓兩地之間共享繁榮;
15:29
in a targeted way that benefits
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藉由針對性的協助
15:31
those who need them most.
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幫助最需要的人。
15:34
Remittances empower people.
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僑匯給人力量。
15:37
We must do all we can to make remittances
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我們要盡力讓僑匯和仲介,
15:40
and recruitment
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15:41
safer and cheaper.
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更安全、成本更低。
15:43
And it can be done.
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我相信這可行。
15:46
As for myself, I have been
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拿我來說,
15:48
away from India for two decades now.
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我離開印度有 20 年了。
15:52
My wife is a Venezuelan.
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我妻子是委內瑞拉人。
15:55
My children are Americans.
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我的孩子是美國人。
15:58
Increasingly, I feel like a global citizen.
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我逐漸覺得我就是全球公民。
16:02
And yet, I am growing nostalgic
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但是我對家鄉的思念
16:05
about my country of birth.
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更加濃烈。
16:08
I want to be in India and in the U.S. at the same time.
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我好想同時在印度又在美國。
16:13
My parents are not there anymore.
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我父母已經不在了。
16:15
My brothers and sisters have moved on.
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我的手足也都過得不錯。
16:19
There is no real urgency for me to send money home.
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我沒有迫切需要寄錢回家。
16:21
And yet, from time to time,
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然而我三不五時,
16:24
I send money home to friends,
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還是會寄一點給朋友、
16:27
to relatives, to the village,
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給親戚、給我的村莊。
16:29
to be there, to stay engaged —
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就像我還是那裡的一份子,
16:32
that's part of my identity.
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這是我認同的一部分。
16:34
And, I'm still striving to be a poet
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當然我還是想當詩人,
16:37
for the hardworking migrants
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寫下那些辛苦的移工,
16:39
and their struggle to break free
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想擺脫代代貧困的掙扎。
16:41
of the cycle of poverty.
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16:42
Thank you.
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謝謝。
16:44
(Applause)
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