Michael Metcalfe: We need money for aid. So let's print it.

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翻译人员: Li Li 校对人员: Zhiting Chen
00:12
Thirteen years ago,
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十三年前
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we set ourselves a goal to end poverty.
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我们设了一个目标, 要结束贫困
00:21
After some success,
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在取得一些小成功后
00:24
we've hit a big hurdle.
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我们遇到了瓶颈
00:27
The aftermath of the financial crisis
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财政危机的后果
00:29
has begun to hit aid payments,
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开始冲击救助款项
00:32
which have fallen for two consecutive years.
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而且连续两年都在减少
00:37
My question is whether the lessons learned
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我的问题就是, 从挽救财政系统中
00:41
from saving the financial system
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得到的这些教训
00:45
can be used to help us overcome that hurdle
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能否用来帮助我们克服这瓶颈
00:48
and help millions.
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也帮助数以百万的人民
00:51
Can we simply print money for aid?
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我们是否能直接印钞以提供救助呢?
00:58
"Surely not."
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“当然不可以。”
01:00
It's a common reaction.
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这是人们正常的反应
01:02
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:03
It's a quick talk.
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这是一个短对话
01:05
Others channel John McEnroe.
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人们和约翰·麦肯罗的对话
01:10
"You cannot be serious!"
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“你开玩笑的吧!”
01:12
Now, I can't do the accent, but I am serious,
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我没办法模仿他的口音, 但我是认真的
01:17
thanks to these two children,
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多亏了这两个孩子
01:21
who, as you'll learn, are very much at the heart
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等下你们就会知道, 他们是我这个演讲
01:25
of my talk.
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的中心
01:27
On the left, we have Pia.
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左边这个女孩,名叫皮娅
01:30
She lives in England.
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她住在英格兰
01:32
She has two loving parents,
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她的双亲都很和蔼可亲
01:35
one of whom is standing right here.
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其中一个,就站在这里
01:40
Dorothy, on the right,
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桃乐茜,右边的孩子
01:42
lives in rural Kenya.
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住在肯尼亚农村
01:45
She's one of 13,000 orphans
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她是一万三千孤儿
01:48
and vulnerable children
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和弱势儿童中的一员
01:49
who are assisted by a charity that I support.
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她在接受我所资助的 一个慈善机构的帮助
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I do that because I believe
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我这么做,是因为我相信
01:57
that Dorothy, like Pia,
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桃乐茜,像皮娅一样
02:00
deserves the best life chances
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值得拥有我们能给予她的
02:03
that we can afford to give her.
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最好的生活条件
02:05
You'll all agree with me, I'm sure.
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我相信你们会同意我的话的
02:08
The U.N. agrees too.
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联合国也这么认为
02:11
Their overriding aim
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他们对于国际援助
02:13
for international aid
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的最高目标
02:15
is to strive for a life of dignity for all.
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就是为所有人争取生命的尊严
02:21
But -- and here's that hurdle --
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但,这儿出现了瓶颈
02:26
can we afford our aid aspirations?
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我们能负担得起这样的援助渴望吗?
02:30
History suggests not.
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历史告诉我们,不能
02:34
In 1970, governments set themselves a target
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在1970年,政府们给自己定了个目标
02:39
to increase overseas aid payments
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要增加海外的救助款项
02:42
to 0.7 percent
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增加到占国民收入
02:44
of their national income.
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的0.7%
02:45
As you can see, a big gap opens up
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在这里你能看到, 在实际救助和目标之间
02:50
between actual aid and that target.
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出现了一个大的空缺
02:54
But then come the Millennium Development Goals,
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接着,出来了“千年发展目标”
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eight ambitious targets
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要在2015年前
03:01
to be met by 2015.
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要完成八大目标
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If I tell you that just one of those targets
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如果我告诉你们,其中一个目标
03:08
is to eradicate extreme hunger and poverty,
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就是要消除极度饥饿和贫困
03:12
you get a sense of the ambition.
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你们会觉得这雄心勃勃
03:15
There's also been some success.
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还是取得一些成功的
03:18
The number of people living
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每天生活费低于1.25美金的人数
03:20
on less than $1.25 a day has halved.
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已经减少了一半
03:26
But a lot remains to be done in two years.
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当然未来的两年还有很多的事要做
03:29
One in eight remain hungry.
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还有八分之一的人口处于饥饿的水平
03:33
In the context of this auditorium,
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拿这个讲厅打个比方
03:36
the front two rows aren't going to get any food.
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前两排的观众将得不到任何食物
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We can't settle for that,
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这点我们没法满足
03:42
which is why the concern about the eighth goal,
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这就是为什么第八个目标
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which relates to funding,
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是如此的麻烦
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which I said at the beginning is falling,
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因为它涉及到资金
03:52
is so troubling.
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就是我开头说的开始在减少的资金
03:56
So what can be done?
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那么,我们能做什么呢?
03:58
Well, I work in financial markets,
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嗯,我从事金融市场工作
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not development.
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不是发展研究
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I study the behavior of investors,
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我研究投资者的行为
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how they react to policy and the economy.
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研究他们如何应对政策和经济
04:12
It gives me a different angle on the aid issue.
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这在救助问题上给我新的启迪
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But it took an innocent question
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但是当时我年仅四岁的女儿
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from my then-four-year-old daughter
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问的一个童真的问题
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to make me appreciate that.
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让我对此心有感激
04:26
Pia and I were on the way to a local cafe
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当时皮娅和我正在去 当地一家咖啡厅的路上
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and we passed a man collecting for charity.
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我们经过了一个 为慈善募捐的男人身边
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I didn't have any change to give him,
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我当时没有给他零钱
04:35
and she was disappointed.
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她就有些失望了
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Once in the cafe, Pia takes out her coloring book
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到了咖啡厅, 皮娅拿出她的图画本
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and starts scribbling.
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开始涂画
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After a little while, I ask her what she's doing,
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过了一会儿, 我问她在干什么
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and she shows me a drawing
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她给我看了她画的
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of a £5 note
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一张5欧元的钞票
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to give to the man outside.
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要给外面的那个男子
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It's so sweet,
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非常温馨
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and more generous than Dad would have been.
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远比她爸爸要慷慨得多
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But of course I explained to her,
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当然我跟她解释
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"You can't do that; it's not allowed."
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“你不能这么做,这行不通得。”
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To which I get the classic four-year-old response:
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结果我得到的是四岁小孩经典的回答:
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"Why not?"
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“为什么啊?”
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Now I'm excited, because I actually think
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现在我有点激动了, 因为我觉得
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I can answer this time.
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我现在可以回答这个问题了
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So I launch into an explanation of how
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所以我开始解释
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an unlimited supply of money
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无限量供应的货币
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chasing a limited number of goods
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去购买限量供应的商品
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sends prices to the moon.
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是会把价格抬高到离谱的地步的
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Something about that exchange stuck with me,
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这次的交流让我久久不能忘怀
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not because of the look of relief
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并不是因为在我快要结束的时候
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on Pia's face when I finally finished,
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皮娅脸上露出安心的表情
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but because it related
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而是因为
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to the sanctity of the money supply,
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它涉及到货币供应的神圣性
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a sanctity that had been challenged and questioned
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这种神圣性一直被中央银行
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by the reaction of central banks
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对财政危机的反应
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to the financial crisis.
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所挑战和质疑
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To reassure investors,
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为了使投资方安心
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central banks began buying assets
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中央银行开始购置资产
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to try and encourage investors to do the same.
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尝试鼓励投资者也这么做
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They funded these purchases
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他们用他们自己造出来的钱
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with money they created themselves.
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去投资这些购置
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The money wasn't actually physically printed.
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而这些钱并没有真正被印刷出来
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It's still sort of locked away in the banking system today.
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在今天这笔钱仍处于 被“锁”在银行系统的状态
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But the amount created was unprecedented.
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但造出来的这笔钱的数量却是空前的
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Together, the central banks of the U.S.,
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各国的中央银行,美国
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U.K and Japan
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英国和日本
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increased the stock of money in their economies
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都一起增加了各自经济的货币存量
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by 3.7 trillion dollars.
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增加了3.7万亿美金 (人民币约22.2万亿元)
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That's three times, in fact that's more than three times,
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这是三倍,其实不止三倍
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the total physical stock of dollar notes in circulation.
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实际流通中的美金货币存量总和
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Three times!
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三倍啊!
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Before the crisis,
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在经济危机之前
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this would have been utterly unthinkable,
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这是完全不能想像的
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yet it was accepted remarkably quickly.
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但它还是非常快就被接受了
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The price of gold,
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黄金的价格
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an asset thought to protect against inflation,
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黄金是被当作用来抵御通货膨胀的
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did jump,
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确实下跌了
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but investors bought other assets
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但投资者购买了其他的资产
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that offered little protection from inflation.
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而这些资产却基本无法抵制通货膨胀
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They bought fixed income securities, bonds.
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他们购买固定收益证券,债卷
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They bought equities too.
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他们也买普通股
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For all the scare stories,
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对于那些吓人的报道
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the actual actions of investors
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投资者真正的行为
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spoke of rapid acceptance and confidence.
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显示出快速的接受和信心
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That confidence was based on two pillars.
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这种信心建立在两个支柱上
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The first was that, after years
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第一个就是
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of keeping inflation under control,
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在控制通货膨胀的多年后
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central banks were trusted
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中央银行被人们所信任
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to take the money-printing away
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如果通货膨胀构成威胁时
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if inflation became a threat.
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他们可以停止钞票的印刷
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Secondly, inflation simply never became a threat.
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第二,通货膨胀单纯来说时不会成为威胁的
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As you can see, in the United States,
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正如你所见到的,在美国
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inflation for most of this period
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这个阶段大部分时间的通货膨胀
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remained below average.
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都低于平均数
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It was the same elsewhere.
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在别的地方也一样
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So how does all this relate to aid?
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那么所有的这一切是怎么 和救助这个事儿挂钩的呢?
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Well, this is where Dorothy
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这就是桃乐茜
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and the Mango Tree charity
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和资助她的芒果树慈善机构
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that supports her comes in.
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开始出现
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I was at one of their fundraising events
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在今年年初的时候
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earlier this year,
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我在一个募捐活动上
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and I was inspired to give a one-off donation
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我当时受到了鼓舞,捐了一笔捐款
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when I remembered that my firm
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然后我想起我的公司
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offers to match the charitable contributions
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答应会根据自己员工捐款的数额
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its employees make.
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再捐同样的数额
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So think of this:
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所以这么想:
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Instead of just being able to help Dorothy
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我不单能帮助到桃乐茜
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and four of her classmates
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还有她的四个同学
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to go through secondary school for a few years,
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帮助他们完成中学几年的学业
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I was able to double my contribution.
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我能够让我的贡献翻倍
09:02
Brilliant.
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这真是太棒了
09:04
So following that conversation with my daughter,
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所以想着我和女儿的对话
09:10
and seeing the absence of inflation
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看着面临钞票印刷时
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in the face of money-printing,
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消失的通货膨胀
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and knowing that international aid payments
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以及知道国际救助款项
09:18
were falling at just the wrong time,
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在不恰当的时间被减少了
09:21
this made me wonder:
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这让我好奇:
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Could we match
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我们能否
09:27
but just on a much grander scale?
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在规模上提高一个等级?
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Let's call this scheme "Print Aid."
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让我们把这个计划成为“印救”
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And here's how it might work.
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下面解释一下它的运作
09:41
Provided it saw little inflation risk from doing so,
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假设这样做基本没什么通货膨胀的风险
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the central bank would be mandated
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中央银行需被强制采取措施
09:48
to match the government's overseas aid payments
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以达到政府的海外救助款项
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up to a certain limit.
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所设定的一个限度
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Governments have been aiming to get aid
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政府这几年来都试图
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to 0.7 percent for years,
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让救助款项达到0.7%的数额
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so let's set the limit at half of that,
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那么我们就把限制定在一半吧
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0.35 percent of their income.
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就是收入的0.35%
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So it would work like this: If in a given year
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所以它会这样运作:如果在某一年
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the government gave 0.2 percent of its income
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政府把收入的0.2%
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to overseas aid,
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拨给海外救助
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the central bank would simply top it up
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那么中央银行只要把它的款项
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with a further 0.2 percent.
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提高多0.2%就可以了
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So far so good.
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目前感觉还不错吧
10:19
How risky is this?
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这样做的风险有多大?
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Well, this involves the creation of money
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它其实涉及到制造货币
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to buy goods, not assets.
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去购买商品,而非资产
10:29
It sounds more inflationary already, doesn't it.
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听起来有点通货膨胀了,对吧
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But there are two important mitigating factors here.
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但这里有两个重要的缓解因素
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The first is that by definition,
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第一个,就是从定义上说
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this money printed would be spent overseas.
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印制出来的钞票会被投放到海外
10:45
So it's not obvious how it leads to inflation
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所以印刷钞票对国内而言
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in the country doing the actual printing
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不大可能会导致通货膨胀
10:53
unless it leads to a currency depreciation of that country.
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除非它导致了这个国家的货币贬值
10:58
That is unlikely for the second reason:
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这也不大可能出现,因为有第二个原因:
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the scale of the money that would be printed
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取决于在这个计划下
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under this scheme.
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印刷钞票的规模
11:07
So let's think of an example
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举个例子
11:10
where Print Aid was in place
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比如“印救”计划在
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in the U.S., U.K. and Japan.
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美国,英国和日本实施
11:18
To match the aid payments made
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为了达到政府们在过去四年里
11:20
by those governments over the last four years,
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在救助款项达到的数目
11:23
Print Aid would have generated
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“印救”会提供
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200 billion dollars' worth of extra aid.
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额外的两千亿美金给救助款项
11:30
What would that look like
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会出现怎样的情况?
11:32
in the context of the increase in the money stock
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当这些国家
11:36
that had already happened in those countries
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为了拯救财政系统
11:38
to save the financial system?
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已提高货币储存量
11:40
Are you read for this?
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准备好听答案了吗?
11:43
You might struggle to see that at the back,
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在后面你可能会看不清
11:45
because the gap is quite small.
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因为这个空缺很小
11:49
So what we're saying here
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所以我们这里说的
11:51
is that we took a $3.7 trillion gamble
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是我们拿了3.7万亿美金孤注一掷
11:55
to save our financial systems,
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去缓解我们的财政系统压力
11:57
and you know what, it paid off.
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结果呢,它见成效了
11:59
There was no inflation.
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没有通货膨胀
12:02
Are we really saying that it's not worth the risk
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那么,为了救援而额外印多2千亿钞票
12:05
to print an extra 200 billion for aid?
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这样的风险真的不值得去承担吗?
12:10
Would the risks really be that different?
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这些风险真的会有很大区别吗?
12:12
To me, it's not that clear.
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对我来说,这是比较模糊的概念
12:14
What is clear is the impact on aid.
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而对救援产生的影响则是清晰的
12:17
Even though this is the printing
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哪怕印钞仅仅只是
12:20
of just three central banks,
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三家中央银行的事
12:21
the global aid that's given
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但是这个阶段给出的国籍援助
12:25
over this period is up by almost 40 percent.
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也已经上升了接近40个百分点
12:30
Aid as a proportion of national income
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援助作为国民收入的一部分
12:32
all of a sudden is at a 40-year high.
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突然就上升到了40年来的最高点
12:36
Now, we don't get to 0.7 percent.
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那么,假设我们没有达到0.7%那个点
12:39
Governments are still incentivized to give.
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政府也会被要求付诸行动
12:42
But you know what, that's the point of a matching scheme.
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但你们知道吗,那个点就是和计划匹配的点
12:46
So I think what we've learned
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所以我觉得,我们了解到的是
12:50
is that the risks from this money creation scheme
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这个印钞计划中潜在的风险
12:54
are quite modest,
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是相当温和的
12:57
but the benefits
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但是收益呢
13:00
are potentially huge.
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则是非常庞大
13:02
Imagine what we could do with 40 percent more funding.
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想像一下这多出来的40%的资金, 我们能做多少事情
13:06
We might be able to feed the front row.
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我们估计可以养得起 前排的观众了
13:11
The thing that I fear, the only thing that I fear,
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我担心的事情, 且唯一担心的事情
13:13
apart from the fact that I've run out of time,
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除了我已经没什么时间这个事实外
13:15
is that the window of opportunity for this idea
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就是实施这个想法的时间机会
13:20
is a short one.
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非常短暂
13:23
Today, money creation by central banks
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今天,中央银行的货币创造
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is an accepted policy tool.
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是一个公认的政策工具
13:29
That may not always be the case.
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但这并不是一直都这样
13:32
Today there are universally agreed aims
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如今在国际援助上
13:36
for international aid.
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我们有世界普遍认可的目标
13:38
That may not always be the case.
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但这也并不是一直都这样
13:42
Today might be the only time
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现在可能是这两种事物
13:44
that these two things coincide,
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同时被认可实行的唯一时机
13:47
such that we can afford the aid
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这样我们就能负担起这些援助
13:51
that we've always aspired to give.
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这些我们一直都很想给予的援助
13:55
So, can we print money for international aid?
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所以,我们能为国籍援助而印刷钞票吗?
14:03
I seriously believe the question should be,
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我坚决相信这是可行的
14:07
why not?
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为什么不呢?
14:09
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢
14:12
(Applause)
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