Is your country at risk of becoming a dictatorship? Here's how to know | Farida Nabourema
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00:13
A few weeks ago,
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几周之前,
00:14
somebody tweeted during the midterm
elections in the United States
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有人在美国中期选举期间发推特,
00:19
that Election Day
should be made a holiday.
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呼吁将选举日定为官方假日。
00:22
And I retweeted, saying,
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我回复了他,
00:24
"Well, you're welcome to come
to my country and vote.
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“欢迎你来我国投票。
00:26
You'll get the whole week off
to allow the military to count it."
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你会有一周的假期,
以方便军方统计票数。“
00:30
I come from Togo, by the way.
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顺便说一下,我来自多哥。
00:32
It is a beautiful country
located in West Africa.
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多哥是一个美丽的国家,
位于西非。
00:35
There are some cool,
interesting facts about my country.
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我的国家有一些很酷很有趣的事实。
00:39
Togo has been ruled
by the same family for 51 years,
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多哥曾被同一个家族统治长达51年之久,
00:42
making us the oldest autocracy in Africa.
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使其成为欧洲最古老的独裁政权。
00:46
That's a record.
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这是其中一个纪录。
00:47
We have a second-coolest record:
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还有一个很酷的纪录:
00:48
we have been ranked three times
as the unhappiest country on earth.
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我们曾三度被评选为
世界上幸福感最低的国家。
00:53
You are all invited.
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你们都参与了投票。
00:54
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:56
So just to let you know,
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你们要知道,
00:57
it's not very cool
to live under an autocracy.
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生活在独裁政权之下可不酷。
01:01
But the interesting thing is that I have
met, throughout the course of my activism,
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但有趣的是,在我推动活动过程中,
01:05
so many people from different countries,
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我遇到过来自不同国家的各色人等,
01:07
and when I tell them about Togo,
their reaction is always,
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每当我谈到多哥时,
他们的反应都是:
01:10
"How can you guys allow the same people
to terrorize you for 51 years?
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"你们怎么能容忍
同一个家族统治你们长达51年?"
01:14
You know, like, you Togolese,
you must be very patient."
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他们会调侃说,你们多哥人一定有耐心。
01:16
That's their diplomatic way
of saying "stupid."
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这是他们说“愚蠢”的外交辞令。
01:19
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:21
And when you live in a free country,
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当你生活在一个自由的国度,
01:24
there's this tendency of assuming
that those who are oppressed
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人们趋于认为那些受压迫的人
01:27
tolerate their oppression
or are comfortable with it,
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能够容忍迫害并淡然处之,
并且他们觉得
民主是一种先进的治理方式
01:31
and democracy is projected
as a progressive form of governance
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01:35
in such a way that those people
who don't live under democratic countries
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以至于他们认为专政国家的人
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are seen as people who are not
intellectually or maybe morally
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在智力上或道德上
01:44
as advanced as others.
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比不上民主国家的公民。
01:46
But it's not the case.
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但实际上不是这样的。
01:47
The reason why people have that perception
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人们有这种刻板印象的原因,
01:49
has to do with the way stories
are covered about dictatorships.
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与独裁统治的相关报道密切相关。
01:53
In the course of my activism,
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在我推动政治活动的过程中,
01:55
I have had to interview
with so many news outlets out there,
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我需要接受许多外媒的采访,
01:59
and usually it would always start with,
"What got you started?
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采访的开端往往是:
“ 你是怎么开始的?
02:02
What inspired you?"
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是什么启发了你?“
02:04
And I reply, "I wasn't inspired.
I was triggered."
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我的回答往往是:
”我没有受到启发,我是被触发的。“
02:08
And it goes on.
"Well, what triggered you?"
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接着会问:“是什么触发了你?”
02:11
And I go on about how my father
was arrested when I was 13, and tortured,
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我会说13岁那年
父亲被逮捕和折磨的故事,
02:16
all the history ... I don't want
to get into details now,
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我现在不想回忆那些历史的细节,
02:19
because you'll start sleeping.
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因为你们听了会昏昏欲睡的。
02:20
But the thing is, at the end of the day,
what interests them the most is:
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谈话的最后,
采访者最感兴趣的话题是
02:24
How was he tortured?
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我的父亲是如何被折磨的。
02:25
For how many days? How many people died?
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他被折磨了多久,
有多少人被折磨致死。
02:27
They are interested
in the abuse, in the killing,
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他们对虐待和杀戮最感兴趣,
02:32
because they believe that
will gain attention and sympathy.
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因为他们觉得这些内容
能博人眼球,引人同情。
02:36
But in reality, it serves
the purpose of the dictator.
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但实际上,这正中独裁者下怀
02:39
It helps them advertise their cruelty.
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外媒帮他们宣传了他们的暴政。
02:43
In 2011, I cofounded a movement
I call "Faure Must Go,"
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2011年,我发起了一个名为
“富尔下台”的运动,
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because Faure is
the first name of our president.
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富尔是我们总统的名字。
02:50
Togo is a French-speaking
country, by the way,
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顺便提一下,
多哥的官方语言是法语,
02:52
but I chose English because
I had my issues with France as well.
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但我选择说英语,因为我对法国也有矛盾。
02:56
But then --
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但之后——
02:57
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
但之后,当我开始
“富尔下台”的运动后,
03:00
But then, when I started Faure Must Go,
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03:03
I made a video, and I came on camera,
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我录了一段视频,上了镜头,
03:05
and I said, "Well, Faure Gnassingbé,
I give you 60 days to resign as president,
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我说,“富尔·格纳辛布,
你60天内必须下台,
03:09
because if you don't,
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否则,
03:10
we the youth in Togo will organize
and we will bring you down,
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多哥的年轻人将会起义,
把你拉下马,
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because you have killed
over 500 of our countrymen
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因为你为了在你父亲死后夺得政权,
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to seize power when your father died.
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你已经杀了500个人。
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We have not chosen you.
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我们没有选你。
03:20
You are an imposter,
and we will remove you."
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你是个骗子,我们会推翻你的。”
03:22
But I was the only known face
of the movement.
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我是运动中唯一一个露脸的人。
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Why? Because I was the only stupid one.
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为什么呢?
因为我就是那个愚蠢的人。
03:27
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:29
And the backlashes followed.
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接下来是一连串的反击。
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My family started receiving threats.
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我家人陆续受到了威胁。
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My siblings called me one morning.
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我的兄弟姐妹有天早上给我打电话。
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They said, "You know what?
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他们说,“你知道吗?
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When they come here to kill you,
we don't want to die with you,
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当他们来杀你时,我们不想给你陪葬,
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so move out."
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所以搬出去吧。“
03:41
So yes, I moved out.
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所以我搬了出去,
03:43
And I'm so angry at them,
so I haven't talked to them in five years.
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我感到很生气,
甚至在五年里都没有和他们说过话。
03:47
Anyway, moving forward ...
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不管怎样,还是得前进…
03:50
For the past nine years,
I have been working with countries
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过去九年间,我和很多国家合作
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to raise awareness of Togo,
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以唤醒多哥人民的觉醒,
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to help the people of Togo
overcome their fear
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帮助他们克服恐惧,
04:00
so they, too, can come and say
they want change.
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这样,他们就有勇气来喊想要变的声音。
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I have received a lot of persecution
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我受到很多迫害
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that I cannot disclose,
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无法透露的迫害,
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a lot of threats, a lot of abuse,
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我也受到很多的威胁和虐待,
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psychologically.
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精神上的。
但是我不想谈论这些,
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But I don't like talking about them,
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04:14
because I know that my job
as an activist is to mobilize,
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因为我作为积极分子
的要务是去动员,
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is to organize,
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去组织,
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is to help every single Togolese citizen
understand that, as citizens,
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和帮助每一个多哥人民了解到
作为公民,我们掌握着权力,
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we hold the power,
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04:26
we are the boss and we decide.
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我们才是国家的主人,
我们才是国家的主宰。
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And the punishment that the dictators
are using to intimidate them
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那些独裁者用来恐吓民众的惩罚
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must not prevent us
from getting what we want.
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不能阻止我们的步伐。
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That is why I said it is very important
to cover the stories of activists
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所以我觉得
报道社会积极分子的故事很重要,
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in the way that it helps mobilize people,
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因为这可以鼓动民众,
04:45
not in the way that it helps
deter their action
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而不是阻止他们
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and force even more their subjugation
to the oppressive system.
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甚至迫使他们屈服于残暴的政权。
04:54
During these years
that I've been an activist,
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在我成为积极分子的这些年,
有好几次我都心生退意。
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there are days that I felt like quitting
because I couldn't take it.
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05:00
Well then, what kept me going?
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那么是什么促使我坚持呢?
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The one thing that kept me going:
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其中之一是:
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I remember the story of my grandfather,
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我铭记着我祖父的故事,
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and how he used to walk
465 miles from his village to the city,
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他是如何从他的村庄走465英里到城里,
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just to protest for independence.
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只是为了独立抗争。
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Then I remember
the sacrifice of my father,
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我还牢记着我父亲的牺牲,
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who was tortured so many times
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因为他敢于反抗政权,
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for daring to protest against the regime.
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而被折磨过无数次。
05:21
Back in the '70s,
they would write pamphlets
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上世纪70年代,他们可以写小册子
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to raise awareness on the dictatorship,
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来提高民众对于独裁的认知,
05:27
and because they couldn't
afford to make copies,
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因为他们没钱印刷,
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they would reproduce
the same pamphlet 500 times each
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他们每个人把小册子抄了500遍,
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and distribute them.
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然后分发出去。
05:34
It got to a point where the military
knew their handwriting,
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随后,军队知道了他们的笔迹,
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so as soon as they stumbled upon one,
they'd go and get them.
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所以只要军方发现,他们就会去抓。
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But I look at that and I'm like,
you know, today you have a blog.
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但是如今我们可以使用博客宣传。
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I don't have to copy
the same thing 500 times.
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你不用把同一份材料复印500份。
我发博客后,会有成千上万的人阅读。
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I blog and thousands of people read it.
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05:50
By the way, in Togo, they like
calling me the WhatsApp girl,
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在多哥,人们称我为社交女孩,
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because I am always on WhatsApp
attacking the government.
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因为我总是在社交软件上攻击政府。
05:56
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So it's much easier.
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所以事情变得更容易了。
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When I'm angry at the government,
I just make an angry note,
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当我为政府的所作所为感到愤怒时,
我就写一篇愤怒的博客。
然后发出去被千万人传阅。
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and I send it out
and thousands of people share it.
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06:05
I'm rarely this composed.
I'm always angry, by the way.
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顺便说一下,我很少这么沉稳。
大多数时候我都很生气。
06:08
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:11
(Applause)
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(掌声)
06:20
So I was talking about the necessity
to showcase our stories,
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以上我都在谈论
讲述我们故事的必要性,
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because when I think about
the sacrifices that were made for us,
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因为每当我想起
那些牺牲者的血与泪,
我都会为之奋进。
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it helped me keep going.
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06:29
One of the very first actions
of our Faure Must Go movement
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我们组织第一次活动
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was to come up with a petition,
asking citizens to sign
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是发动市民在请愿书上签字,
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so that we can demand new elections,
as the constitution allows.
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这样我们就可以在
宪法允许的范围内重新选举。
06:40
People were scared to put their names
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人们都很害怕签名,
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because, they said,
they don't want to get in trouble.
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因为他们不想惹麻烦。
06:44
Even in the diaspora, people were scared.
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即使是移民散居的人群,
也很害怕签字。
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They were like, "We have family at home."
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他们会说,我们还有家人。
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But there was this woman
who was in her 60s.
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但是有一位60多岁的老妇人。
06:50
When she heard about it,
she took the petition,
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她听说这件事之后,
毫不犹豫地签字了,
06:54
and she went home,
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然后她回到家,
06:56
and by herself she collected
over 1,000 [signatures].
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自发收集了1000多个签名。
07:00
That inspired me so much, and I was like,
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这深深地触动了我,
07:02
if a 60-year-old that has
nothing more to gain in this regime
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如果一个难以从政权中
得到什么利益的60岁的人
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can do this for us, the young ones,
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都可以为我们做这些,
那年轻人凭什么退出呢?
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then why should I quit?
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07:10
It is the stories of resistance,
the stories of defiance,
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是这些反抗、抗争的故事,
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the stories of resilience,
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这些不屈的故事,
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that inspire people to get involved,
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激励着人们,
07:18
not the stories of abuse
and killings and hurt,
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而不是那些虐杀、伤害的故事,
07:22
because as humans, it's only natural
for us to be scared.
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因为恐惧是人类的自然反应。
07:26
I would like to share with you
a few characteristics of dictatorships
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我想和你们分享一下
独裁者的一些特质,
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so that you can assess your own country
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以供你们国家参考,
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and see if you are also
at risk of joining us.
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并且判断一下
你们是否面临着独裁的风险。
07:35
(Laughter and cheers)
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(笑声和欢呼声)
07:37
(Applause)
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(掌声)
07:43
Number one thing to look at:
concentration of power.
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第一个特征是中央集权。
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Is the power in your country concentrated
in the hands of a few, an elite?
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你们国家的权力是集中在少数人
甚至是一个精英的手中吗?
07:49
It can be a political elite,
ideological elite.
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这个精英可能是
政治精英或者思想精英。
07:51
And you have a strongman,
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你们会有一个铁腕人物,
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because we always have one guy
who is presented as the messiah
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因为在我们国家总会有一个叫“救世主”的人,
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who will save us from the world.
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号称可以救我们脱离苦海。
第二个特征是宣传。
07:59
The second point is propaganda.
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08:01
Dictators feed on propaganda.
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独裁者靠宣传为生。
08:03
They like giving the impression
that they are the saviors,
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他们喜欢以救世主的身份示人,
08:06
and without them,
the country will fall apart.
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就好像离开他们之后,
国家就会分崩离析。
08:08
And they are always fighting
some foreign forces, you know?
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并且他们总和国外势力作斗争,
08:11
The Christians, the Jewish, the Muslims,
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基督教,犹太教,还有穆斯林,
08:13
the voodoo priests are coming for you.
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巫毒教祭司都会来找你麻烦了。
08:16
The Communists, when they get here,
we'll all be broke.
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还有如果共产主义者来了,
我们就会灭亡了。
08:18
These kinds of things.
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诸如此类。
08:20
And our president, in particular,
he fights pirates.
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尤其是我们的总统,他和海盗斗争。
08:23
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:24
I am very serious.
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我是认真的。
08:26
Last year, he bought a boat that's
13 million dollars to fight pirates,
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去年,他买了一艘价值
1300百万美金的船去抗击海盗。
08:29
and 60 percent of our people are starving.
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而我们国家60%的人民
还饱受饥饿之苦。
08:32
So they are always protecting us
from some foreign forces.
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所以他们不让我们接触国外势力。
08:35
And this leads to point three:
militarization.
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第三个特征是军事化。
08:37
Dictators survive by instigating fear,
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独裁者善于煽动恐慌,
08:40
and they use the military
to suppress dissident voices,
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他们用武力镇压反对党,
08:43
even though they try
to give the impression
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虽然他们想要表现得
08:45
that the military
is to protect the nation.
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好像军事力量是在保卫祖国。
08:47
And they suppress institutions
and destroy them
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他们镇压并且破坏一些组织,
08:50
so that they don't have to be
held accountable.
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这样他们就不用承担责任了。
08:53
So do you have a heavily
militarized country?
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所以你的国家高度军事化吗?
08:55
And this leads to point four,
what I call human cruelty.
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第四个特征是虐待人类。
08:59
You know when we talk about animals,
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当我们谈及动物时,
09:01
we say animal cruelty
when animals are abused,
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当动物受到虐待时,
我们称之为虐畜罪,
09:04
because there's no charter
acknowledged by the UN
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因为联合国没有宪章
09:07
saying animal rights charter.
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来保护动物的权益。
09:09
Point one: all animals are created equal.
So you don't have that.
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第一点:所有的动物都是平等的。
09:13
So whenever animals are abused,
we say animal cruelty.
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当动物受到虐待时,
我们称之为虐畜罪,
09:16
But when it comes to humans,
we say human rights abuses,
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当人类受到虐待时,
我们称之为侵犯人权,
09:19
because we assume
that all humans have rights.
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因为我们假设所有人都有人权。
09:22
But some of us are actually still fighting
for our right to have rights.
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但实际上并非如此。
09:26
So in that condition, I don't talk about
human rights abuse or violation.
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所以,我不称之为侵犯人权。
09:30
When you live in a country
and you have an issue with the president
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当你生活在一个
由你反对的总统治理的国家时,
09:33
and the worst thing that can happen
is he bans you from the presidency,
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而最坏的情况时他禁止你从政,
那么你是幸运的。
09:37
you are lucky.
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09:38
When you come to my country
and have an issue with the president,
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如果你生活在多哥,
而你反对多哥的总统,
你可能得逃亡,
甚至是消失在这个世界上,
09:41
you just run, disappear;
you vanish from the universe,
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因为他们甚至会通缉你至土耳其。
09:43
because they can still find you in Turkey.
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所以像我一样的人,
我们不住在多哥。
09:45
So people like myself,
we don't get to live in Togo anymore.
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09:48
And people like myself,
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像我一样的人,
09:49
we don't get to live in the same place
for more than a month,
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我们在同一个地方
生活不超过一个月,
因为我们不想被追踪到。
09:52
because we don't want to be traced.
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他们虐待人的方式,
09:54
The way they abuse people,
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09:55
the type of cruelty that happens
in all impunity under dictatorships
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独裁统治下的虐待,
09:59
are beyond human imagination.
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超乎人类的想象。
10:02
The stories of some
of the activists that were killed,
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分享一些积极分子被杀的故事,
10:05
their bodies dumped in the sea,
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他们的尸体被沉入海底,
10:07
that were tortured
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他们被折磨
直到失去听力和视力--
10:09
to the point where they lost
their hearing or their sight --
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10:12
those stories still haunt me.
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这些故事常常萦绕在我的脑海中。
10:13
And sometimes, as an activist,
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有时候,作为积极分子,
10:15
I am less concerned about dying
than how it will happen.
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我更关注死亡的过程
多过死亡本身。
有时候我会坐下来
然后想象那些场景。
10:19
Sometimes I just sit down
and I imagine all scenarios.
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10:21
What are they going to do?
Are they going to cut my ears first?
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他们会做什么?
他们会先把我的耳朵剪下来吗?
10:24
Or are they going to cut my tongue
because I'm always insulting them?
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或者他们会因为我经常侮辱他们
而割掉我的舌头吗?
10:28
It sounds cruel, but it is the reality.
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这听起来很残酷,
但这就是现实。
10:30
We live in a very cruel world.
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我们生活在一个很残酷的世界。
10:32
Dictators are cruel monsters,
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独裁者是残暴的恶魔,
10:35
and I am not saying it to be nice.
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这不是好事。
10:39
So yes, that is the final characteristic.
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这是最后一个特征。
10:42
The list goes on,
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还有很多特征,
10:43
but that's the final thing that I want
to share about autocracies,
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但是这是我想分享的最后一点,
10:47
so that you look at your country
and see if there are risks there.
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所以请审视一下你的国家,
看看你们是否面临独裁风险。
10:50
It is important that you acknowledge
the gains of freedom that you have today,
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你们要感恩你们所拥有的自由,
10:54
because some people had
to give their lives for you to have it.
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因为这个世界上的一些人
为之付出了生命。
10:57
So don't take this for granted.
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所以不要觉得理所当然。
同时,我还想告诉你们
10:59
But then at the same time,
you also need to know
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11:01
that no country is actually
destined to be oppressed,
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没有哪个国家注定是要被压迫的,
11:05
while at the same time,
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同时,
11:07
no country or no people are immune
to oppression and dictatorship.
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也没有一个国家
能免受压迫和独裁。
11:11
Thank you.
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谢谢!
11:13
(Applause)
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