Kate Stone: DJ decks made of... paper

Prevodilac: Mile Živković Lektor: Tatjana Jevdjic

I love paper, and I love technology,

Volim papir i volim tehnologiju

and what I do is I make paper interactive.

i bavim se pravljenjem interaktivnog papira.

And that's what I say when people ask me what I do,

To i kažem kada me ljudi pitaju čime se bavim,

but it really confuses most people,

ali to zaista zbuni većinu ljudi,

so really, the best way for me to convey it

tako da je zapravo najbolji način da to objasnim ovo -

is to take the technology and be creative

uzeti tehnologiju i biti kreativan

and create experiences.

i stvarati iskustva.

So I tried to think what I could use for here,

Pokušala sam da smislim šta bih ovde mogla da iskoristim

and a couple of weeks ago I had a crazy idea

i pre nekoliko nedelja javila mi se luda ideja

that I wanted to print two DJ decks

da želim da odštampam dva kontrolora

and to try and mix some music.

i pokušam da miksujem neku muziku.

And I'm going to try and show that at the end,

Na kraju ću pokušati da to i pokažem

and the suspense will be as much mine if it works.

i takođe sam nesigurna da li će raditi.

And I'm not a DJ, and I'm not a musician,

Nisam didžej i nisam muzičar,

so I'm a little bit scared of that.

tako da se pomalo plašim toga.

So I think, I found the best way to describe my journey

Mislim da je najbolji način da opišem svoje putovanje

is just to mention a few little things

to da spomenem nekoliko stvarčica

that have happened to me throughout my life.

koje su mi se desile tokom mog života.

There's three particular things that I've done,

To su tri određene stvari koje sam uradila

and I'll just describe those first,

i prvo ću ih samo opisati,

and then talk about some of my work.

a onda ću pričati o svom radu.

So when I was a kid, I was obsessed with wires,

Kada sam bila mala bila sam opsednuta žicama,

and I used to thread them under my carpet

i provlačila bih ih ispod tepiha

and thread them behind the walls

i iza zidova

and have little switches and little speakers,

i imala bih male prekidače i zvučnike

and I wanted to make my bedroom be interactive

i želela sam da moja soba bude interaktivna,

but kind of all hidden away.

ali na neki skriveni način.

And I was also really interested in wireless as well.

Takođe sam bila veoma zainteresovana za bežičnu tehnologiju.

So I bought one of those little kits that you could get

Kupila sam jedan od onih super kompleta koji je mogao da se nabavi

to make a radio transmitter,

kako bih napravila radio odašiljač

and I got an old book and I carved out the inside

i uzela sam staru knjigu, koju sam izdubila iznutra

and I hid it inside there,

i sakrila sam ga unutra,

and then I placed it next to my dad

a onda sam ga stavila pored tate

and snuck back to my bedroom and tuned in on the radio

i odšunjala se nazad do moje sobe i slušala radio

so I could eavesdrop.

kako bih prisluškivala.

I was not at all interested in what he was saying.

Uopšte me nije interesovalo šta je on pričao.

Više mi se sviđala ideja

It's more that I just liked the idea

of an everyday object

da svakodnevni predmet

having something inside

ima nešto unutra

and doing something different.

i radi nešto drugačije.

Several year later,

Nekoliko godina kasnije,

I managed to successfully fail all of my exams

uspela sam da uspešno padnem na svim svojim ispitima

and didn't really leave school with much to show for at all,

i nisam imala nešto naročito da pokažem nakon napuštanja škole

and my parents, maybe as a reward,

i moji roditelji su mi, možda za nagradu,

bought me what turned out to be

kupili ono za šta se ispostavilo

a one-way ticket to Australia,

da je karta u jednom smeru za Australiju

and I came back home about four years later.

i vratila sam se oko 4 godine nakon toga.

I ended up on a farm in the middle of nowhere.

Završila sam na farmi negde bogu iza leđa.

It was in far western New South Wales.

To je bilo daleko na zapadu Novog južnog Velsa.

And this farm was 120,000 acres.

Ova farma imala je 120 hiljada ari.

There were 22,000 sheep,

Bilo je 22 hiljade ovaca

and it was about 40 degrees,

i oko 40 stepeni Celzijusa

or 100 or so Fahrenheit.

ili oko 100 Farenhajta.

And on this farm there was the farmer, his wife,

Na farmi su bili farmer, njegova žena

and there was the four-year-old daughter.

i njihova četvorogodišnja ćerka.

And they kind of took me into the farm

Oni su me prihvatili na farmi

and showed me what it was like to live and work.

i pokazali mi kakav je tu život i posao.

Obviously, one of the most important things was the sheep,

Jedna od najbitnijih stvari su očigledno bile ovce,

and so my job was, well, pretty much to do everything,

tako da je moj posao bio da skoro sve radim,

but it was about bringing the sheep back to the homestead.

ali uglavnom je trebalo da vraćam ovce na farmu.

And we'd do that by building fences,

To bismo uradili tako što bi podizali ograde,

using motorbikes and horses,

koristili motocikle i konje

and the sheep would make their way all the way back

i ovce bi se vraćale

to the shearing shed for the different seasons.

skroz do šupe za šišanje za različita godišnja doba.

And what I learned was,

Ono što sam naučila je

although at the time, like everyone else,

da iako sam tada kao i svi ostali

I thought sheep were pretty stupid

mislila da su ovce prilično glupe

because they didn't do what we wanted them to do,

jer nisu htele da rade ono što smo mi želeli,

what I realize now, probably only just in the last few weeks

sada shvatam, verovatno u proteklih nekoliko nedelja

looking back, is the sheep weren't stupid at all.

u retrospektivi, da ovce nisu bile nimalo glupe.

We'd put them in an environment where they didn't want to be,

Stavili bismo ih u okruženje gde nisu želele da budu

and they didn't want to do what we wanted them to do.

i nisu htele da rade ono što smo mi želeli.

So the challenge was to try and get them

Izazov je bio u tome da pokušamo da ih nateramo

to do what we wanted them to do

da rade ono što mi želimo

by listening to the weather, the lay of the land,

tako što smo slušali vreme, prirodu zemljišta

and creating things that would let the sheep flow

i stvarajući objekte koji bi dozvolili ovcama da "teku"

and go where we wanted them to go.

i idu tamo kuda smo mi želeli.

Another bunch of years later,

Nakon još nekoliko godina

I ended up at Cambridge University

završila sam na Univerzitetu u Kembridžu

at the Cavendish Laboratory in the U.K.

u laboratoriji Kavendiš u Ujedinjenom Kraljevstvu

doing a Ph.D. in physics.

radeći doktorat iz fizike.

My Ph.D. was to move electrons around, one at a time.

Moj doktorat je bio o pomeranju elektrona, jedan po jedan.

And I realize — again, it's kind of these realizations

I shvatam - opet, ovo je jedna od onih stvari koje shvatite

looking back as to what I did —

gledajući unazad na to što ste radili -

I realize now that it was pretty much the same

sada shvatam da je to skoro potpuno isto

as moving sheep around.

kao i pomeranje ovaca.

It really is.

Zaista jeste.

It's just you do it by changing an environment.

To radite tako što menjate okolinu.

And that's kind of been a big lesson to me,

Za mene je bila velika lekcija

that you can't act on any object.

da ne možete delovati na bilo koji objekat.

You change its environment, and the object will flow.

Menjajte mu okolinu i on će teći.

So we made it very small,

Napravili smo to veoma malo,

so things were about 30 nanometers in size;

tako da su stvari bile veličine oko 30 nanometara.

making it very cold, so at liquid helium temperatures;

Bilo je veoma hladno, na temperaturama tečnog helijuma,

and changing environment by changing the voltage,

a okolina je promenjena menjanjem napona

and the electrons could make flow around a loop

i elektroni su mogli da teku oko petlje

one at a time, on and off, a little memory node.

jedan po jedan, uključeni i isključeni, mali memorijski čvor.

And I wanted to go one step further,

Htela sam da odem korak dalje

and I wanted to move one electron on

i htela sam da jedan elektron uključim,

and one electron off.

a drugi isključim.

And I was told that I wouldn't be able to do this,

Rekli su mi da ovo neću moći da izvedem,

which, you know, as we've heard from other people,

što je, znate, kako smo čuli od drugih,

that's the thing that makes you do it.

upravo ta stvar koja vas natera da to i uradite.

Bila sam odlučna i uspela sam da pokažem da mogu da to uradim.

And I was determined, and I managed to show that I could do that.

And a lot of that learning, I think,

Mislim da je puno toga što sam naučila

came from being on that farm,

proizašlo iz boravka na toj farmi,

because when I was working on the farm,

jer kada sam radila na farmi

we'd have to use what was around us,

morali smo da koristimo ono što je oko nas,

we'd have to use the environment,

morali smo da koristimo okolinu

and there was no such thing

i nije postojalo nešto

as something can't be done,

što nije moglo da se uradi

because you're in an environment where,

jer se nalazite u okolini gde,

if you can't do what you need to do,

ako ne možete da uradite ono što morate

you can die, and, you know,

možete umreti, a znate,

I had seen that sort of thing happen.

videla sam da se dešava tako nešto.

So now my obsession is printing,

Moja trenutna opsesija je štampanje

and I'm really fascinated by the idea

i zaista sam fascinirana idejom

of using conventional printing processes,

korišćenja tradicionalnih procesa štampanja,

so the types of print that are used to create

dakle vrstom štampanja koja se koristi da se stvore

many of the things around us

mnoge stvari oko nas

to make paper and card interactive.

koje čine papir i karton interaktivnim.

When I spoke to some printers when I started doing this

Kada sam počela da radim ovo i pričala sa nekim štamparima

and told them what I wanted to do,

i rekla im šta želim da radim,

which was to print conductive inks onto paper,

a to je da odštampam provodljivo mastilo na papir,

they told me it couldn't be done,

rekli su mi da to ne može da se uradi,

again, that kind of favorite thing.

opet, moja omiljena stvar.

So I got about 10 credit cards and loans

Uzela sam oko 10 kreditnih kartica i kredita

and got myself very close to bankruptcy, really,

i dovela sebe zaista veoma blizu bankrota

and bought myself this huge printing press,

i kupila sam ogromnu presu za štampanje,

which I had no idea how to use at all.

koju nisam imala pojma kako da koristim.

It was about five meters long,

Bila je duga oko pet metara

and I covered myself and the floor with ink

i sebe i pod sam prekrila mastilom

and made a massive mess, but I learned to print.

i napravila sam ogroman haos, ali naučila sam da štampam.

And then I took it back to the printers and showed them what I've done,

Onda sam to odnela štamparima i pokazala im šta sam uradila

and they were like, "Of course you can do that.

a oni su rekli: "Naravno da možeš da uradiš to.

Zašto nisi odmah došla ovde?"

Why didn't you come here in the first place?"

That's always the case.

To se uvek desi.

So what we do is we take conventional printing presses,

Uzimamo tradicionalne prese za štampanje,

we make conductive inks,

pravimo provodno mastilo

and run those through a press, and basically

i to provlačimo kroz presu i u principu

just letting hundreds of thousands of electrons flow

puštamo da stotine hiljada elektrona teče

through pieces of paper

kroz komade papira

so we can make that paper interactive.

kako bi taj papir načinili interaktivnim.

And it's pretty simple, really.

To je zapravo veoma jednostavno.

It's just a collection of things that have been done before,

To je samo skup stvari koje su već urađene,

but bringing them together in a different way.

ali spojene na drugačiji način.

So we have a piece of paper with conductive ink on,

Imamo komad papira sa provodnim mastilom

and then add onto that a small circuit board with a couple of chips,

i na to dodajemo malo integrisano kolo sa nekoliko čipova,

one to run some capacitive touch software,

jedan da vodi softver za kapacitivni dodir,

so we know where we've touched it,

kako bismo znali gde smo ga dodirnuli

and the other to run, quite often,

i još jedan, često da vodi

some wireless software so the piece of paper can connect.

neki bežični softver, kako bi se komad papira mogao povezati.

So I'll just describe a couple of things that we've created.

Opisaću nekoliko stvari koje smo stvorili.

There's lots of different things we've created.

Stvorili smo mnogo različitih stvari.

Ovo je jedna od njih, jer obožavam tortu.

This is one of them, because I love cake.

And this one, it's a large poster,

Ovo je ogromni poster

and you touch it and it has a little speaker behind it,

koji dodirnete i iza sebe ima mali zvučnik,

and the poster talks to you when you touch it

poster priča sa vama kada ga dodirnete

and asks you a series of questions,

i postavlja vam niz pitanja

and it works out your perfect cake.

i otkrije vašu savršenu tortu.

But it doesn't tell you the cake there and then.

Ali ne kaže vam koja je to torta na licu mesta.

It uploads a picture,

On okači sliku

and the reason why it chose that cake for you,

i razlog zašto je odabrao tu tortu,

to our Facebook page and to Twitter.

za naš Tviter i Fejsbuk stranu.

So we're trying to create that connection

Pokušavamo da stvorimo tu vezu

between the physical and the digital,

između fizičkog i digitalnog,

but have it not looking on a screen,

ali ne gledanjem na ekran

and just looking like a regular poster.

i da izgleda kao obični poster.

We've worked with a bunch of universities on a project

Sa mnogo univerziteta smo radili na projektu

looking at interactive newsprint.

interaktivnih novina.

So for example, we've created a newspaper,

Na primer, stvorili smo novine,

a regular newspaper.

obične novine.

You can wear a pair of headphones that are connected to it wirelessly,

Možete nositi bežične slušalice

and when you touch it, you can hear the music

i kada ih dodirnete, čućete muziku

that's described on the top, which is something you can't read.

koja se opisuje na površini, a to se ne može pročitati.

Možete slušati konferenciju za štampu

You can hear a press conference

as well as reading what the editor has determined

kao i čitati ono šta je urednik odlučio

that press conference was about.

da je tema konferencije.

And you can press a Facebook "like" button

Možete pritisnuti dugme "like" na Fejsbuku

or you can vote on something as well.

ili možete glasati o nečemu.

Something else that we created,

Još nešto što smo stvorili,

and this was an idea that I had a couple of years ago,

a ovo je ideja koju sam imala pre par godina

and so we've done a project on this.

i uradili smo projekat o ovome.

It was for funding from the government

To je bilo finansirano od vlade,

for user-centered design for energy-efficient buildings,

za dizajn za energetski efikasne zgrade koje bi se fokusirale na korisnika,

difficult to say, and something I had no idea what it was

teško je za izgovoriti i nisam imala predstavu šta je to bilo

when I went into the workshop, but quickly learned.

kada sam krenula da radim, ali ubrzo sam shvatila.

And we wanted to try and encourage people

Hteli smo da pokušamo da ohrabrimo ljude

to use energy better.

da bolje koriste energiju.

And I really liked the idea that, instead of looking at dials

Zaista mi se svidela ideja da umesto u gledanja u brojčanik

and reading things to say --

i čitanja toga što treba da kažem -

looking at your energy usage,

gledanja na korišćenje energije,

I wanted to create a poster that was wirelessly connected

htela sam da stvorim poster koji je bežično bio povezan

and had color-changing inks on it,

i imao na sebi mastilo koje menja boju,

tako da ako je vaše korišćenje energije bilo bolje,

and so if your energy usage was trending better,

than the leaves would appear and the rabbits would appear

pojavilo bi se lišće i zečevi

and all would be good.

i sve bi bilo dobro.

And if it wasn't, then there'd be graffiti

U suprotnom, tu bi bili grafiti

and the leaves would fall off the trees.

i lišće bi opalo s drveća.

Poster je pokušao da vas natera da brinete o nečemu

So it was trying to make you look after something

in your immediate environment,

iz vaše neposredne okoline,

which you don't want to see not looking so good,

za šta ne želite da vidite da izgleda tako loše,

rather than expecting people to do things

umesto da očekujete da ljudi rade stvari

in the local environment because of the effect

zbog efekta u lokalnom okruženju

that it has a long way off.

koji postoji na duge staze.

And I think, kind of like going back to the farm,

Mislim da, kao sa vraćanjem na farmu,

it's about how to let people do what you want them to do

tu se radi o tome da ljude pustite da rade ono što od njih želite

rather than making people do what you want them to do.

umesto da ih na to naterate.

Okay.

U redu.

So this is the bit I'm really scared of.

Ovog dela se zaista plašim.

So a couple of things I've created are,

Neke od stvari koje sam stvorila su -

there's a poster over here

ovde je poster

that you can play drums on.

na kom možete svirati bubnjeve.

And I am not a musician. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Nisam muzičar. U tom trenutku to se činilo kao dobra ideja.

If anyone wants to try and play drums, then they can.

Ako neko želi da pokuša da svira bubnjeve, to može da uradi.

I'll just describe how this works.

Samo ću opisati kako ovo radi.

This poster is wirelessly connected to my cell phone,

Ovaj poster je bežično povezan sa mojim mobilnim telefonom

and when you touch it, it connects to the app.

i kada ga dodirnete, povezuje se s aplikacijom.

(Drums)

(Bubnjevi)

And it has really good response time.

Zaista ima dobro vreme odziva.

It's using Bluetooth 4, so it's pretty instantaneous.

Koristi Blutut 4, tako da je prilično brzo.

Okay. Thanks.

U redu. Hvala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

And there's a couple of other things.

I tu je još par drugih stvari.

So this one is like a sound board,

Ovo je kao zvučna ploča,

so you can touch it, and I just love these horrible noises.

tako da je možete dodirivati i obožavam ove užasne zvuke.

(Sirens, explosions, breaking glass)

(Sirene, eksplozije, pucanje stakla)

Okay, and this is a D.J. turntable.

U redu, a ovo je gramofon za didžejeve.

So it's wirelessly linked to my iPad,

Bežično je povezan sa mojim ajpedom,

and this is a software that's running on the iPad.

a ovo je softver koji koristim na njemu.

Oh, yes. I just love doing that.

O, da. Obožavam da radim to.

I'm not a D.J., though, but I just always wanted to do that.

Nisam didžej, ali sam oduvek želela da uradim to.

(Scratching)

(Skreč - vrtenje ploče unazad)

So I have a crossfader, and I have the two decks.

Imam krosfejder i dva deka.

So I've made some new technology,

Napravila sam novu tehnologiju

and I love things being creative,

i volim kada su stvari kreativne

and I love working with creative people.

i volim da radim sa kreativnim ljudima.

So my 15-year-old niece, she's amazing,

Moja 15-godišnja nećaka, neverovatna je,

and she's called Charlotte,

zove se Šarlot,

and I asked her to record something,

i pitala sam je da snimi nešto

and I worked with a friend called Elliot

i radila sam sa prijateljem Eliotom

to put some beats together.

kako bismo napravili neke matrice.

So this is my niece, Charlotte.

Ovo je moja nećaka Šarlot.

(Music)

(Muzika)

Yay!

Ura!

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

So that's pretty much what I do.

To je u principu ono što ja radim.

I just love bringing technology together,

Obožavam da spajam tehnologiju,

having a lot of fun, being creative.

da se zabavljam i da budem kreativna.

But it's not about the technology.

Ali ne radi se o tehnologiji.

It's just about, I want to create some great experiences.

Radi se o tome da želim da stvorim sjajna iskustva.

So thank you very much.

Mnogo vam hvala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)