Isaac Mizrahi: Fashion, passion, and about a million other

Prevodilac: Sandra Gojic Lektor: Ivana Korom

I have, like, a thing about sleeping.

Imam nešto u vezi sa spavanjem.

I don't sleep that much,

Ne spavam mnogo,

and I've come to this thing about, like, not sleeping much

i došao sam do toga da nespavanje

as being a great virtue,

after years of kind of battling it

postane velika veština, posle mnogo godina

as being a terrible detriment or something.

borbe protiv toga kao protiv neke štete.

And now I really like sort of sitting up.

I sad mi se zaista sviđa da sam budan, znate.

You know, but for years, I've been sitting up,

Ali godinama sam bdeo

and I think my creativity is greatly motivated

i mislio kako je moja kreativnost strašno motivisana ovom nesanicom.

by this kind of insomnia.

I lie awake. I think thoughts. I walk aimlessly sometimes.

Ležim budan, razmišljam, hodam besciljno.

I used to walk more at night.

Nekada sam više hodao noću.

I walk during the day, and I follow people who I think look interesting.

Šetam danju i pratim ljude za koje mislim da zanimljivo izgledaju.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

And sometimes -- actually, once it was on "Page Six" in the "Post"

I ponekad - ustvari, jednom je to bilo na šestoj strani u "Postu",

that I was cruising this guy, like, sort of, whatever,

kako sam muvao tog momka, ili šta god,

but I was actually just following because he had these great shoes on --

ali sam ga ja ustvari pratio zato što je imao te zaista sjajne cipele.

(Laughter)

I tako sam ja pratio tog momka.

so I was following this guy.

And I took a picture of his shoes,

I fotografisao sam njegove cipele,

and we thanked each other and just went on our way.

i zahvalili smo se jedan drugome i otišli svojim putem.

Ali ja to stalno radim.

But I do that all the time.

Ustvari, mislim da mnoge moje dizajnerske ideje

As a matter of fact, I think a lot of my design ideas

come from mistakes and tricks of the eye.

dolaze iz grešaka i vizuelnih trikova.

Because I feel like, you know, there are so many images out there,

Jer osećam znate, da ima toliko mnogo slika napolju,

so many clothes out there.

toliko mnogo odeće.

And the only ones that look interesting to me

I jedina koja meni izgleda zanimljivo

are the ones that look slightly mistaken, of course,

je ona koje pomalo izgleda pogešno, naravno,

or very, very surprising.

ili veoma, veoma iznenađujuće.

And often, I'm driving in a taxi,

I vrlo često, vozim se u taksiju

and I see a hole in a shirt or something that looks very interesting

i vidim rupu u majici, ili slično

što izgleda veoma zanimljivo ili lepo ili funkcionalno

or pretty or functional

in some way that I'd never seen happen before.

na neki način na koji nikad ranije nisam video.

And so I'd make the car stop, and I'd get out of the car and walk

I tako zaustavio bih kola i izašao i prošetao,

and see that, in fact, there wasn't a hole,

i video da ustvari tamo nema rupe, već da je to bila varka moga oka,

but it was a trick of my eye; it was a shadow, you know.

bila je senka, znate.

Or if there was a hole, I'd think like, "Oh, damn.

Ili ako bi tamo bila rupa pomislio bih, dođavola,

Actually, someone thought of that thought already.

neko je zapravo već to smislio.

Neko je već napravio tu grešku tako da ja više ne mogu.

Someone made that mistake already, so I can't do it anymore."

I don't know where inspiration comes from.

Ne znam odakle inspiracija dolazi.

It does not come, for me, from research.

Ne dolazi mi iz istraživanja.

I don't get necessarily inspired by research.

Nisam nužno inspirisan istraživanjem.

As a matter of fact,

Ustvari, jedna od najzabavnijih stvari

one of the most fun things I've ever done in my whole life

koju sam uradio u svom životu,

was this Christmas season at the Guggenheim in New York.

desila se ovog Božića u Gugenhajmu (muzej) u Njujorku.

I read "Peter and the Wolf" with this beautiful band from Juilliard,

Čitao sam "Petar i Vuk" sa tim divnim orkestrom sa Džulijarda.

and I did, like, you know, the narrator, and I read it.

I ja sam bio narator, znate i čitao sam.

And I saw this really smart critic who I love,

I video sam tu zaista pametnu kritičarku koju volim.

this woman Joan Acocella, who's a friend of mine.

Ta žena, Džoan Akočela, koja je moja prijateljica,

And she came backstage and said,

došla je u bekstejdž i rekla je,

"Oh, Isaac, did you know that -- talk to me about Stalinism

o, znaš, Isak, da li si znao da pričanje o Staljinizmu,

and talk to me about, you know, like, the '30s in Russia."

i pričanje o, znaš, Rusiji u vreme '30-tih.

And I thought, "How do I know about Stalinism?"

I rekao sam, šta ja znam o Staljinizmu?

I know about a wolf and a bird,

Znam za vuka i pticu i

and, you know, he ate the bird,

on je pojeo pticu i onda na kraju čujete, znate,

and then in the end, you know, you hear the bird squeaking or something.

čujete pticu kako cvili, ili tako nešto, znate?

(Laughter)

Dakle, ja to ustvari ne znam. Ja zaista -

So I don't really know that, I don't really --

actually, I do my own kind of research, you know?

ustvari ja radim neku vrstu svog istraživanja, znate.

If I'm commissioned to do the costumes for an 18th-century opera

Ako mi je poručeno da uradim kostime za operu iz 18. veka, ili tako nešto,

or something like that,

I will do a lot of research, because it's interesting,

mnogo ću istraživati, zato što je zanimljivo,

not because it's what I'm supposed to do.

a ne zato što to moram da uradim.

I'm very, very, very inspired by movies.

Veoma, veoma sam inspirisan filmovima.

The color of movies and the way light makes the colors.

Boja filmova i način na koji svetlo stvara boje,

Light from behind the projection or light from the projection

svetlo iza projektora,

ili svetlo iz projektora, čini da boje izgledaju neverovatno.

makes the colors look so impossible.

Anyway, roll this little clip. I'll just show you.

I u svakom slučaju, pustite ovak kratak video, pokazaću vam.

I sit up at night, and I watch movies,

Sedim noću i gledam filmove

and I watch women in movies a lot.

i mnogo gledam žene u filmovima.

And I think about, you know, their roles

I razmišljam o njihovim ulogama

and about how you have to, like, watch what your daughters look at.

i o tome kako morate da gledate šta vaše ćerke gledaju.

Because I look at the way women are portrayed all the time,

Jer ja sve vreme posmatram način na koji su žene predstavljene.

whether they're kind of glorified in this way,

Da li su na neki način veličane,

or whether they're kind of, you know, ironically glorified,

ili su na neki način ironično veličane,

or whether they're sort of denigrated or ironically denigrated.

da li su, znate, na neki način omalovažene ili ironično omalovažene.

I go back to color all the time.

Stalno se vraćam boji.

Color is something that motivates me a lot.

Boja je nešto što me mnogo motiviše.

Retko je to boja koju nalazim u prirodi,

It's rarely color that I find in nature,

although, you know, juxtaposed next to artificial color,

iako, znate, pored veštačke boje

natural color is so beautiful.

prirodna boja je tako lepa.

So that's what I do. I study color a lot.

To radim. Mnogo proučavam boje.

But for the most part, I think, like, how can I ever make anything

Ali najčešće razmišljam, kako ću ikada napraviti nešto

that is as beautiful as that image of Natalie Wood?

što je jednako lepo kao ta slika Natali Vud?

How can I ever make anything as beautiful as Greta Garbo?

Kako ću ikada napraviti nešto lepo poput Grete Garbo?

I mean, that's just not possible. You know?

Mislim, to jednostavno nije moguće, znate.

And so that's what makes me lie awake at night, I guess.

Tako da je to ono što me noću drži budnim, mislim.

I'm also like a big --

Želim da vam pokažem - takođe sam veliki -

često idem kod astrologa i čitača tarota,

I go to astrologers and tarot card readers often,

and that's another thing that motivates me a lot.

i to je još jedna stvar koja me vrlo motiviše.

Ljudi kažu, pa uradi to. I astrolozi mi kažu da uradim nešto.

People say, "Do that" -- an astrologer tells me to do something,

so I do it.

I to i uradim.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

When I was about 21, an astrologer told me

Negde oko 21. godine, astrolog mi je rekao

that I was going to meet the man of my dreams,

da ću upoznati čovek svojih snova

and that his name was going to be Eric, right?

i da će njegovo ime biti Erik.

So, you know, for years I would go to bars

Tako sam, znate, godinama odlazio u barove

and, sort of, anyone I met whose name was Eric,

i na neki način svakoga koga bih upoznao i čije ime je bilo Erik

I was humping immediately or something.

odmah bih spopao ili tako nešto.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

There were times when I was so desperate,

I bilo je trenutaka kada sam bio toliko očajan

da bih ušao u sobu i samo izgovorio Erik.

I would just walk into a room and go, "Eric?"

I krenuo bih ka onome ko bi se okrenuo.

And anybody who would turn around, I would make a beeline for.

(smeh)

(Laughter)

And I had this really interesting tarot reading a long time ago.

Imao sam zaista zanimljivo tarot proročanstvo pre mnogo vremena.

The last card he pulled, which was representing my destiny,

Poslednja karta koju je izvukao, a koja je predstavljala moju sudbinu

was this guy in, like, a straw boater with a cane

predstavljena je tim čamdžijom sa štapom

and, you know, sort of spats and this, you know, a minstrel singer, right?

i nekim guslarom.

I want to show you this clip,

Želim da vam pokažem ovaj video zato što radim ovu ludu stvar

because I do this kind of crazy thing where I do a cabaret act.

neku vrstu kabarea.

So actually, check this out.

Ustvari, pogledajte ovo.

Very embarrassing.

Vrlo neprijatno.

(Video) (Applause)

Thank you. We'll do anything you ask.

(video): Hvala vam. Možemo da uradimo sve što poželite.

Ime emisije zasniva se na ovoj priči

The name of the show is based on this story that I have to tell you,

about my mother.

o mojoj majci, koju moram da vam ispričam.

It's sort of an excerpt from a quote of hers.

To je deo njenog citata.

I was dating this guy, right?

Viđao sam se sa jednim momkom.

And this has to do with being happy, I swear.

I ovo ima veze sa srećom, kunem se.

I was dating this guy, and it was going on for about a year,

Dakle, viđao sam se sa tim momkom oko godinu dana.

and we were getting serious,

I počelo je da biva ozbiljno,

so we decided to invite them all to dinner, our parents.

tako da smo odlučili da pozovemo na večeru naše roditelje.

I predstavili smo ih jedne drugima.

We introduced them to each other.

Moja majka je bila, na neki način, vrlo nežna prema njegovoj majci,

My mother was, sort of, very sensitive to his mother,

who, it seemed, was a little bit skeptical

koja je izgledala kao da je pomalo skeptična u vezi sa alternativnim načinom života.

about the whole "alternative lifestyle" thing --

you know, homosexuality.

Znate, homoseksualnost?

So my mother was a little offended, and turned to her and said,

Moja majka je bila pomalo uvređena. Okrenula se ka njegovoj i rekla,

"Šališ se? Imaju divan život zajedno.

"Are you kidding? They have the greatest life together.

They eat out, they see shows ..."

Jedu u restoranima, gledaju predstave."

They eat out, they see shows.

Jedu u restoranima, gledaju predstave.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

That's the name of the show, "They eat out, they --"

To je ime emisije, jedu u restoranima -

That's on my tombstone when I die:

to će biti na mom nadgrobnom spomeniku kad umrem.

"He ate out, he saw shows." Right?

Dakle, "Jeo je u restoranima i gledao predstave."

(Laughter)

So in editing these clips,

Tokom montaže nisam imao smelosti

I didn't have the audacity to edit a clip of me singing at Joe's Pub.

da umontiram klip na kojem ja pevam u Joe's Pub.

So you'll have to go check it out and come see me or something,

Tako da ćete morati da proverite i da dođete da me vidite ili tako nešto.

because it's mortifying.

Jer je ponižavajuće, a ipak...

And yet, it feels --

I don't know how to put this.

Ne znam kako da kažem.

I feel as little comfort as possible is a good thing. You know?

Znate, mislim da je dobra stvar osećati se što manje prijatno.

And at least, you know, in my case,

I na kraju, znate, u mom slučaju

because if I just do one thing all the time,

ako radim samo jednu stvar sve vreme,

I don't know, I get very, very bored. I bore very easily.

ne znam, bude mi vrlo, vrlo dosadno. Brzo mi postane dosadno.

And you know, I don't say that I do everything well.

I znate, ne kažem da ja sve radim dobro,

I just say that I do a lot of things, that's all.

samo kažem da radim mnogo stvari, to je sve.

And I kind of try not to look back, you know?

I nekako se trudim da ne gledam unazad, znate.

Except, I guess that's what staying up every night is about --

Osim, pretpostavljam, to ima veze sa mojim nespavanjem noću.

like, looking back and thinking, "What a fool you made of yourself."

Kao, gledanje unazad i razmišljanje, kakva sam budala ispao, znate.

You know?

Ali pretpostavljam da je to u redu. Zar ne?

But I guess that's OK. Right?

(Laughter)

Because if you do many things,

Jer ako radite mnogo stvari

you get to feel lousy about everything, and not just one, you know?

počinjete da se osećate bedno u vezi sa svim,

a ne samo sa jednom stvari, znate.

You don't master feeling lousy about one thing.

Ne usavršavate loše osećanje samo u vezi s jednom stvari.

Yeah, exactly.

Da, upravo.

I will show you this next thing,

Pokazaću vam ovu sledeću stvar,

speaking of costumes for operas.

kad već pričam o kostimima za operu.

I do work with different choreographers.

Radim sa različitim koreografima,

I work with Twyla Tharp a lot

radim puno sa Tvialom Tarp,

and I work with Mark Morris a lot,

i radim mnogo sa Markom Morisom,

who is one of my best friends.

koji je jedan od mojih najboljih prijatelja.

And I designed three operas with him --

I dizajnirao sam tri opere sa njim.

the most recent one, "King Arthur."

I najskoriju "Kralj Artur".

I've been very ingrained in the dance world

Još dok sam bio tinejdžer bio sam

since I was a teenager.

veoma ukorenjen u svet plesača.

I went to a performing arts high school,

Otišao sam u srednju školu za izvođačke umetnosti,

where I was an actor,

gde sam bio glumac.

I mnogi moji prijatelji su bili baletani.

and many of my friends were ballet dancers.

Again, I don't know where inspiration comes from.

Još jednom, ne znam odakle inspiracija dolazi.

I don't know where it comes from.

Ne znam odakle dolazi.

I started making puppets when I was a kid.

Kad sam bio dete počeo sam da pravim lutke.

Maybe that's where the whole inspiration thing started from: puppets.

Možda je odatle počela cela ta stvar u vezi sa inspiracijom, s lutkama.

(Laughter)

I onda srednja škola za izvođačke umetnosti.

And then performing arts high school.

There I was in high school, meeting dancers and acting.

U srednjoj školi sam se

sretao sa plesačima i glumom.

And somehow, from there, I got interested in design.

I nekako, od tada, počeo sam da se zanimam za dizajn.

I went to Parsons School of Design,

Išao sam u "Parsons School of Design"

and then I began my career as a designer.

i tada sam počeo svoju karijeru kao dizajner.

I don't really think of myself as a designer,

Ne razmišljam o sebi kao o dizajneru,

and I don't really think of myself necessarily as a fashion designer.

ne razmišljam o sebi nužno kao o modnom dizajneru.

And frankly, I don't really know what to call myself.

I iskreno, ne znam kako da se nazovem.

O sebi mislim kao o ... Ne znam kako mislim o sebi.

I think of myself as ...

I don't know what I think of myself as, so ...

Jednostavno je tako.

That's just that.

(smeh)

(Laughter)

But I must say, this whole thing about being slightly bored all the time,

Ali moram da vam kažem, čitava ova stvar u vezi sa tim da mi je pomalo dosadno sve vreme

I think that is a very important thing for a fashion designer.

to je ono - mislim da je to veoma važna stvar za modnog dizajnera.

You always have to be, like, slightly bored with everything.

Sve mora uvek da vam bude pomalo dosadno.

And if you're not, you have to pretend to be slightly bored with everything.

I ako vam nije, morate da se pretvarate da vam sve jeste pomalo dosadno.

(smeh)

(Laughter)

But I am really a little bored with everything.

Ali meni jeste sve pomalo dosadno.

I always say to my partner, Marisa Gardini, who books everything --

Uvek kažem mojoj partnerki, Marisi Gardini, koja sve zakazuje -

books everything and makes everything happen

ona sve zakazuje i čini da sve bude moguće.

and makes all the deals.

I ona ugovara sve poslove.

And I always tell her that I find myself with a lot of time

I uvek joj govorim kako hvatam sebe

kako ispred kompjutera igram bridž.

on the computer bridge program.

Previše vremena igrati bridž na kompjuteru, znate to je

Too much time on computer bridge, which is, you know, like, that's --

So, somehow, like, about 10 years ago,

tako... nekako, kao, pre deset godina

I thought that the most unboring place in the world

mislio sam da je najnedosadnije mesto na svetu

would be, like, a TV studio, like for a day show,

TV studio,

dnevne emisije. Neka vrsta dnevne emisije.

some kind of day talk show,

because it's all of these things that I love

Zato što su to sve te stvari, svih vrsta, koje volim

kind of in one place.

na jednom mestu.

And if you ever get bored, you can look at another thing

I ako vam ikada bude dosadno možete da pogledate neku drugu stvar,

da se bavite nečim drugim i da o tome razgovarate, je l' tako?

and do another thing and talk about it, right?

And so I had this TV show.

I tako sam imao tu TV emisiju.

And that was a very, very, very big part of my process.

I to je bila veoma, veoma, veoma velika stvar u mom procesu.

Actually, could you roll the clip, please?

Ustvari, možete li da pustite video, molim vas?

This is one of my favorite clips of Rosie O'Donnell.

Ovo je jedan od mojih omiljenih snimaka Rosie.

(Video) Isaac Mizrahi: We're back on the set. Hi, Ben!

(video) Isak Mizrahi: Vratili smo se na set.

Zdravo.

Rosie O'Donnell: Hello, Ben.

Rozi O'Donel: Zdravo Ben.

IM: Look how cute she looks with just a slick back.

IM: Pogledaj kako slatko izgleda sa ovim, sasvim glatko odnazad.

Čovek: Njena majka kaže, "Divno!"

Ben: As my grandmother says, "Delish!"

IM: Ha, divno. U redu. Gde da se smestim?

RO: Delish!

IM: Wow, delish.

All right. So where should I position myself?

I want to stay out of the way. I don't want to be -- OK, here we go.

Želim da se maknem sa puta.

Ne želim da budem - okej. Idemo.

RO: Do you get nervous, Ashley?

Da li se unervoziš, Ešli?

Ashley: Doing what? RO: Cutting hair.

Ešli: Kada?

Dok šišaš.

A: Never. I don't think there was ever a day when I cut hair I was nervous.

E: Dok šišam? Nikada, nikada.

Misilm da ne postoji dan kada sam bio nervozan dok sam šišao.

IM: You look so cute already. RO: You like it? All right.

Već si vrlo slatka.

Sviđa ti se? U redu.

IM: Do you have a problem looking cute? RO: Of course I want to look cute.

Da li imaš problem da izgledaš slatko? Želiš da izgledaš slatko.

RO: Naravno da želim da izgledam slatko.

IM: Just checking, because some people want to look, you know, aggressively ugly.

IM: Samo proveravam, zato što neki ljudi žele da izgledaju, znaš,

agresivno ružno.

ROD: Ne, ja ne, ne.

IM: Čitaš o svim tim ljudima koji imaju puno novca

RO: No, not me, no.

IM: You read about people who have a lot of money and they have kids

i imaju decu i deca uvek završe nekako, kao,

and the kids always end up somehow, really messed up, you know?

zaista zabrljaju, znaš na šta mislim?

And there's got to be some way to do that, Rosie.

I mora da postoji neki način da se to uradi, Rozi.

Just because you're fabulously rich and fabulously famous,

Jer samo zato što si neverovatno bogat i neverovatno poznat,

does that mean you shouldn't have kids,

da li to znači da ne treba da imaš decu,

because you know they're going to end up messed up?

zato što znaš da će ona da zabrljaju?

ROD: Ne, ali znači da tvoj prioritet mora da bude

RO: No, but it means your priority has to be their well-being first, I think.

njihova dobrobit, mislim.

But you have to make the decision for yourself.

Ali svako mora da donese odluku za sebe.

My kids are seven, who the hell knows?

Moja deca imaju sedam, ko će ga znati.

They're going to be like 14 and in rehab.

Imaće 14 i biće na rehabilitaciji.

And they're going to be playing this clip. "I'm such a good mother."

I oni će da puste ovaj video:

"Ja sam tako dobra majka."

My God, this is the shortest I've ever had!

Bože, ovo je najkraće što sam imala.

IM: It looks good, yeah?

IM: Izgleda dobro, zar ne?

A: Has your hair ever been this short? RO: No! But it's all right -- go crazy.

E: Hteo sam da te pitam, tvoja kosa -

ROD: Ne! U redu je - budi lud.

IM: I feel like it needs to be closer down here.

IM: Mislim da treba da bude malo bliže ovde.

E: O ne, ovo je samo priprema.

A: It's just a stage. RO: We're just staging it.

ROD: Ovo je samo priprema.

IM: Are you freaking out? It's so cute.

IM: Je l' ludiš? Izgledaš jako slatko.

ROD: Ne, sviđa mi se. To sam nova ja.

RO: No, I love it. It's the new me. IM: It's so fabulous!

IM: O, sjajno je!

ROD: Rozino jato. Jeee!

RO: Flock of Rosie. Wooo!

(Laughter)

IM: By the way, of all the most unboring things in the world, right?

Usput. Od svih mogućih nedosadnih stvari na svetu.

I mean, like, making someone who's already cute look terrible like that --

Misim, načiniti nekoga ko je već sladak, da izgleda tako užasno.

(Laughter)

That is not boring. That is nothing if it's not boring.

To nije dosadno. To je ništa, ako nije dosadno.

(Laughter)

Actually, I read this great quote the other day, which was,

Ustvari, pročitao sam taj sjajan citat pre neki dan, koji glasi,

"Style makes you feel great,

"Stil čini da se osećate odlično jer čini da vaš um odluta od činjenice da ćete umreti."

because it takes your mind off the fact that you're going to die."

Right?

Istina? I tada sam shvatio, da je to bilo na mojoj internet stranici,

(Laughter)

And then I realized that was on my website,

and it said, you know, the quote was attributed to me.

i potom je pisalo da citat pripada meni

And I thought, "Oh, I said something in an interview. I forgot I said that."

i pomisio sam, o, rekao sam nešto, u nekom intervjuu,

što sam zaboravio da sam rekao. Ali zaista je istina.

But it's really true.

I want to show you this last clip because it's going to be my last goodbye.

Želim da vam pustim ovaj poslednji video jer će to biti moj poslednji pozdrav.

I'll tell you that I cook a lot also.

Reći ću vam da takođe mnogo kuvam. Volim da kuvam.

I love to cook.

And I often look at things as though they're food.

I često gledam na stvari kao da su hrana.

Like, I say, "Would you serve a rotten chicken?

Kao što kažem, oh znate, da li biste poslužili pokvareno pile?

Then how could you serve a beat-up old dress or something?

Pa kako možeš onda poslužiti iznošenu staru haljinu ili tako nešto.

How could you show a beat-up old dress?"

Kako možete da prikažete iznošenu staru haljinu?

Ja uvek povezujem stvari sa kuhinj-stvom.

I always relate things to kitchen-ry.

(Laughter)

And so I think that's what it all boils down to.

Mislim da se stvari svode na to.

Everything boils down to that.

Sve se svodi na to.

So check this out.

Vidite ovo.

This is what I've been doing,

Dakle, ovo sam radio zato što misilm da je to najzabavnija stvar na svetu.

because I think it's the most fun thing in the world.

To je ova internet stranica.

It's, like, this website with a lot of different things on it.

Ima pregršt različitih stvari na njoj.

To je višematematička stranica.

It's a polymathematical website.

We actually shoot segments, like TV show segments.

Mi ustvari snimamo delove poput TV emisija.

And it's kind of my favorite thing in the world.

I to je nekako moja omiljena stvar na svetu.

And it just began, like, in the beginning of February. So who knows?

I počela je negde početkom februara. Dakle, ko zna.

Again, I don't say it's good, I just think it's not boring, right?

I opet, ne kažem da je dobro, samo kažem da nije dosadno, u redu?

And here's the last bit.

I evo ga poslednji deo.

(Music)

IM: I make buttermilk pancakes or buttermilk waffles all the time.

Video: IM: Moram da ti kažem, ja pravim palačinke ili vafle od mlaćenice sve vreme.

Sara Moulton: Do you?

Kuvarica: Je li?

IM: Yeah, but I can never find buttermilk, ever.

IM: Da, ali nigde ne mogu da nađem mlaćenicu, nikako.

Kuvarica: O.

You can't find it at Citarella, you can't find it.

IM: Ne možeš da nađeš mlaćenicu u Citareli; ne možeš da nađeš mlaćenicu.

SM: You can't? IM: It's always low-fat.

Kuvarica: Ne možeš?

IM: Uvek je to nemasna mlaćenica.

SM: But that's all it is. IM: It is? OK.

Kuvarica: Ne, ali to je to.

AM: To je to?

SM: You don't know? Let me tell you something interesting.

Kuvarica: Pa ti ne znaš? Dozvoli mi da ti kažem.

Da vam kažem nešto zanimljivo.

IM: You know what? Stop laughing! It's not funny.

IM: Znaš šta? Prestani da se smeješ. Nije smešno.

Samo zato što ne znam čitavu priču - da ustvari ne postoji tako nešto kao punomasna mlaćenica.

Just because I don't know there's no such thing as whole buttermilk.

Sorry. What?

Izvini, šta?

SM: Here's the deal: in the old days, when they used to make butter --

Kuvarica: Evo kako stoje stvari. Dozvoli mi da ti kažem.

Ranijih godina kada su pravili puter,

You know how you make butter?

znaš kako se se pravi puter?

IM: Churn. SM: From cream.

IM: Mešajući?

Kuvarica: Za krem - pavlaku?

IM: Yeah, exactly.

IM: Da, tačno.

SM: So you take heavy, high-fat milk, which is cream,

Kuvarica: Uzmeš punomasno mleko, koje je krem,

and you churn it until it separates into these curds and water.

i mešaš ga dok ne počne da se razdvaja na vodu i kajmak.

The liquid is actually -- if you've ever overbeaten your whipped cream,

Tečnost je ustvari ona čista tečnost.

Ako si ikada previše umutio šlag,

it's actually buttermilk.

to je ustvari mlaćenica.

That's what it was in the early days.

I to je i bila ranijih godina.

And that's what people used for baking and all sorts of things.

I to su ljudi koristili za pečenje i gomilu drugih stvari.

Now the buttermilk that you get is actually low-fat or skim milk.

E sad, mlaćenica koju dobiješ je ustvari obrano mleko.

IM: Excuse me, I didn't know. Alright?

IM: Izvini, nisam znao. U redu?

SM: The reason he thought that

Kuvarica: On je mislio tako zbog toga što je mlaćenica veličanstveno gusta i ukusna.

is because buttermilk is so wonderfully thick and delicious.

IM: Yeah, it is. Exactly.

IM: Da, jeste.

SM: So who would think that it was low-fat?

Dakle ko bi mogao da pomisli da je nemasna?

IM: Well, that's it. Thank you very much.

Pa, to je to. Mnogo vam hvala.

Happy TED. It's so wonderful here. I love it. I love it. I love it.

Srećan TED. Divno je ovde. Sviđa mi se, sviđa mi se, sviđa mi se.

Thanks. Bye.

Hvala. Zdravo.