How to overcome apathy and find your power | Dolores Huerta

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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Ivana Krivokuća
00:13
I want to start out with quoting Helen Keller,
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Želim da započnem citatom Helen Keler,
00:18
that great woman that we all admire.
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te velike žene kojoj se svi divimo.
00:21
And she had a statement that is very profound,
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A ona je imala jednu veoma oštroumnu izjavu,
00:26
and this statement is
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a ta izjava glasi
00:28
that science has been able to find cures for many evils,
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kako je nauka bila u stanju da otkrije lek za mnoga zla,
00:34
but never the greatest evil of all in human beings,
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ali nikad za najveće zlo od svih u ljudskim bićima,
00:39
and that evil is apathy.
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a to zlo je apatija.
00:43
So, we know that apathy really costs us a lot,
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Dakle, znamo da nas apatija uistinu košta mnogo,
00:48
especially in our democracy.
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naročito u našoj demokratiji.
00:50
And when we think of why people do not get involved,
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A kada razmišljamo o tome zašto se ljudi ne uključuju,
00:54
why they do not become activists,
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zašto ne postaju aktivisti,
00:56
it's often that people are so worn down with their own familial responsibilities,
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često je to zato što su toliko iscrpljeni sopstvenim porodičnim obavezama,
01:02
and women especially.
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a naročito žene.
01:04
You know, women, they have so many inhibitions.
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Znate, žene imaju toliko inhibicija.
01:08
Many of them have suffered so much trauma in their lives,
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Mnoge su pretrpele tolike traume u svojim životima,
01:11
so many aggressions in their lives.
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toliko nasilja u svojim životima.
01:13
And so it's very hard for them to realize that they have leadership capacities.
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Zato je veoma teško za njih da shvate kako imaju kapacitet za predvodništvo.
01:18
That they can get out there, and they could change the world.
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Da mogu da izađu napolje i da mogu da promene svet.
01:22
Another thing that many women --
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Još jedna stvar kod mnogih žena -
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we think that we have to do everything.
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smatramo da je sve na nama.
01:26
That we are the only ones responsible for our families,
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Da smo jedine odgovorne za naše porodice,
01:30
and it is so hard for us to delegate
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i toliko nam je teško da poverimo posao drugima
01:33
and just get others to help us do the duties that we are responsible for.
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i prosto da tražimo od drugih da nam pomognu u našim obavezama.
01:38
We feel embarrassed or we feel guilty.
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Sramota nas je ili osećamo krivicu.
01:40
But we know that we have to make this happen,
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Međutim, znamo da ovo mora da se desi
01:43
because if not, we will never have time to be able to volunteer
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jer, u suprotnom, nikada nećemo imati vremena da volontiramo
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to help on these many causes that are now facing us.
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i da pomognemo kod mnogih stvari s kojima smo trenutno suočeni.
01:53
One of the areas that women can give up a little bit of time
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Jedna od oblasti gde bi žene mogle da ustupe trunku vremena
01:56
and that is in shopping, OK?
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je kupovina, u redu?
01:58
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:00
And especially when we go out there
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A naročito kad izađemo
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shopping for things that we don't even need.
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da kupujemo stvari koje nam čak ni ne trebaju.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:05
You know, you never saw a hearse with a U-Haul behind it.
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Znate, nikad niste videli mrtvačka kola s prikolicom iza njih.
02:09
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:12
We have to live simply, so that others can simply live.
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Moramo da živimo prosto, kako bi drugi prosto živeli.
02:16
And when we think of the kind of inheritance
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A kada razmišljamo o vidu nasledstva
02:18
that we want to leave to our children or our grandchildren,
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koje želimo da ostavimo svojoj deci ili unučadi,
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think of leaving them a legacy of justice.
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razmišljajte da im ostavite pravdu u nasleđe.
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This is a legacy that they can not only imitate,
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To je nasleđe koje ne samo da mogu da kopiraju,
02:27
but they can be proud of for the rest of their lives.
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već i na koje mogu da budu ponosni do kraja njihovih života.
02:30
If we leave them a lot of material goods, all they're going to do is fight,
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Ako im ostavimo mnogo materijalnog dobra, samo će da se svađaju
02:34
and they're going to hate each other.
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i mrzeće jedni druge.
02:36
Just remember that, when we think about what we're doing.
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Samo se setite toga kada razmišljate o onome šta radimo.
02:39
The other thing that we have to do to liberate our women, eventually,
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Druga stvar koju moramo da uradimo da bismo oslobodili žene, naposletku,
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so that we can do the kind of volunteer work that we need to do
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kako bismo mogle da se bavimo nužnim volonterskim poslom
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to change this world,
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ne bi li promenile ovaj svet
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is we have to have a different kind of an education for our young women.
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je da moramo da imamo različit vid obrazovanja za naše mlade žene.
02:53
Unfortunately, in our societies around the world,
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Nažalost, u našim društvima širom sveta,
02:57
women are taught to be victims.
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žene podučavaju da budu žrtve.
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Women are not taught that they are going to have to defend themselves,
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Žene ne podučavaju tome da će morati da se brane,
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that they're going to have to support themselves
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da će morati da izdržavaju same sebe,
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and they have to protect themselves.
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a one moraju sebe da zaštite.
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Because, you know, when we actually look at the animal kingdom,
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Jer, znate, kad zapravo posmatramo životinjsko carstvo,
03:11
and we see who are the most ferocious, the male or the female?
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i ako pogledamo ko je najsvirepiji, mužjaci ili ženke?
03:15
We know it's the female, right?
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Znamo da su to ženke, zar ne?
03:17
So something went wrong with us at the top of that animal kingdom as women.
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Dakle, nešto je pošlo po zlu s nama ženama na vrhu životinjskog carstva.
03:22
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:23
So I want to give you an example of how I found my voice.
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Želim da vam dam primer kako sam otkrila svoj glas.
03:27
And I was very fortunate in that, when I was 25 years old,
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A tu sam imala veliku sreću, kad mi je bilo 25 godina,
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I met a gentleman named Fred Ross Sr.,
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upoznala sam gospodina po imenu Fred Ros Stariji,
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who organized a chapter of a group called the Community Service Organization
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koji je organizovao ogranak grupe pod nazivom Društveno-uslužna organizacija
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in my hometown of Stockton, California.
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u mom rodnom gradu Stoktonu u Kaliforniji.
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This was a grassroots organization, and I was recruited to be a volunteer.
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Radilo se o maloj lokalnoj organizaciji i ja sam regrutovana kao volonter.
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So, one day, while we were sitting in the office,
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Tako smo jednog dana sedeli u kancelariji
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a farm worker comes in.
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i ušetao je zemljoradnik.
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And he's paralyzed, he can hardly walk, he has a crutch.
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A on je paralisan, jedva hoda, ima štake.
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And he needs help.
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I potrebna mu je pomoć.
03:56
He needs someone to help him go down to the welfare office
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Potrebno je da mu neko pomogne da pođe dole do socijalnog
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and make an application.
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i da preda prijavu.
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So, I volunteered to do that.
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Pa sam se dobrovoljno prijavila za to.
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But when I got to the welfare office,
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No, kad sam stigla u socijalno,
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they would not let me make an application for this gentleman.
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nisu mi dozvolili da predam prijavu za ovog gospodina.
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So I didn't know what to do, I was at a loss.
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Nisam znala šta da radim, bila sam izgubljena.
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So I went back to the office, and I told Mr. Ross,
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Vratila same se u kancelariju i rekla g. Rosu:
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"They won't let me make an application."
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„Ne dozvoljavaju mi da predam prijavu.”
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And he said to me, very sternly,
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A on mi je rekao, krajnje strogo:
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"You go right back down to that welfare office,
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„Vrati se direktno u socijalno
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and you demand to see a supervisor.
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i zahtevaj da vidiš starešinu.
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And you demand that they let him make an application."
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I zahtevaj da dozvole da preda prijavu.”
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And I thought, "Wow, I can do that?"
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A pomislila sam: „Opa, mogu to da uradim?”
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:35
So I thought about it,
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Razmislila sam o tome
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and I kind of overcame my anxieties and my fears.
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i nekako sam prevazišla moje nespokoje i strahove.
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I went down to the welfare office and I demanded to see the supervisor.
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Otišla sam u socijalno i zahtevala da vidim starešinu.
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Sure enough, he came out,
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Uskoro, on se pojavio
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and they had to let Mr. Ruiz make an application for welfare.
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i morali su da dozvole g. Ruizu da preda prijavu za socijalnu pomoć.
04:48
And he got his disability for himself and his family.
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I dobio je invalidninu za sebe i svoju porodicu.
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But that taught me a lesson.
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Tu sam izvukla pouku.
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That taught me that I had a voice.
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Iz toga sam naučila da imam glas.
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Well, Mr. Ross also taught many of us many other things, including Cesar Chavez
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Pa, g. Ros je takođe naučio mnoge od nas raznim drugim stvarima,
uključujući i Cezara Čaveza, kao i mnoge druge volontere.
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and many other volunteers.
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05:02
And he taught us not only that we can make demands of people,
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A naučio nas je ne samo da možemo da zahtevamo od ljudi,
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especially our public officials.
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a naročito naših javnih službenika.
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And this is something we should always keep in mind:
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A radi se o nečemu što bi uvek trebalo da imamo na umu:
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every public official -- guess what -- they work for us.
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svaki javni službenik - pogodite šta - oni rade za nas.
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Because we pay their salaries with out taxes.
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Jer im mi dajemo platu kroz naše poreze.
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And they are actually our servants.
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A oni su zapravo u našoj službi.
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Some of them turn out to be leaders, but not all of them.
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Neki od njih postanu vođe, ali ne svi.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:25
Once in a while we get a leader out of there.
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S vremena na vreme dobijemo vođu odatle.
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The other thing that Mr. Ross taught us is that voting is extremely important.
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Još nešto čemu nas je naučio g. Ros je da je glasanje izuzetno važno.
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And not just voting,
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I ne samo glasanje,
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but going out there and getting other people to vote.
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već izlazak među ljude i nagovaranje drugih da glasaju.
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Going door to door.
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Odlazak od vrata do vrata.
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Phone banking, talking to voters,
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Telefonsko informisanje, razgovor s glasačima
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because many voters have a lot of doubts and they don't know how to vote.
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jer mnogi glasači imaju razne nedoumice i ne znaju kako da glasaju.
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And unfortunately,
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I nažalost,
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we know that in many countries people are not allowed to vote
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znamo da u mnogim državama ljudima nije dozvoljeno da glasaju
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because we have voter suppression in other countries,
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jer u drugim državama imamo represiju nad glasačima,
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like we do here in the United States of America.
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kao što imamo ovde u Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama.
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But the thing is, if we can get out there as individuals
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No radi se o tome da, ako možemo, kao pojedinci izađemo
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and talk to people, so we can remove their apathy
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i razgovaramo s ljudima, kako bismo uklonili apatiju
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and make sure that they can vote.
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i postarali se da mogu da glasaju.
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So, I want to give you an example of a woman in our foundation,
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Želim da vam dam primer žene iz naše fondacije,
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the Dolores Huerta Foundation,
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Fondacije Dolores Huerta,
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and just to show you that sometimes people have power,
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i prosto da vam pokažem kako ljudi ponekad imaju moć,
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but they don't know it.
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samo toga nisu svesni.
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But once they find it, they do miraculous things.
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Međutim, kad je pronađu, čine veličanstvene stvari.
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So, Leticia Prado is an immigrant from Mexico,
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Dakle, Letisija Prado je imigrantkinja iz Meksika,
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only has a sixth-grade education
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ima samo šest razreda osnovne škole
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and speaks very limited English.
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i slabo govori engleski jezik.
06:27
But she was very concerned
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Međutim, bila je veoma zabrinuta
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because the children at the middle school in their town called Weedpatch --
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jer deca u osnovnoj školi u njenom gradu Vidpaču -
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this is in California, Central Valley --
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ovo je u Kaliforniji, u Centralnoj dolini -
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they couldn't go out and play in the schoolyard,
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deca nisu mogla da izlaze napolje i igraju se u školskom dvorištu
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because the air quality is so bad
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jer je kvalitet vazduha toliko loš
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in the southern part of Kern County, California
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u južnom delu okruga Kern u Kaliforniji
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in our United States of America.
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u našim Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama.
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So she and her husband went out there, and they passed a bond issue
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Pa su ona i njen suprug otišli tamo i izglasali su obveznicu
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to build a brand new, state-of-the-art gymnasium
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da se izgradi nova, savremena sala za fizičko
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for the kids at their middle school.
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za decu u njihovoj osnovnoj školi.
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That was a big success.
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Radilo se o velikom uspehu.
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Then she heard a rumor
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Potom je čula trač
07:02
that the principal was going to end the breakfast program
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da će direktor da okonča program raspodele doručka
07:05
for the farm worker children,
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za decu zemljoradnika
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because the principal thought it was just too much paperwork.
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jer je direktor smatrao kako se prosto radi o prevelikoj papirologiji.
07:10
So, Leticia got herself elected to the school board.
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Onda je Letisija uspela da je izaberu u školski odbor.
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And they kept the breakfast program, and she got rid of the principal.
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I zadržali su program, a ona se otarasila direktora.
07:17
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
07:20
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
07:24
So there were other rumors
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Pa su se pojavile nove glasine
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about some corruption in the local water district.
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o korupciji u lokalnom vodovodu.
07:29
So, Leticia got herself elected to the water district.
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Pa je Letisija uspela da je izaberu za člana vodovoda.
07:32
Then she looked into all of the finances of the water district
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Potom je pregledala sve finansijske izveštaje u vodovodu
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and found there was 250,000 dollars missing from their bank account.
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i otkrila da nedostaje 250 000 dolara sa bankovnih računa.
07:41
So, Leticia called in the grand jury, and several arrests have been made.
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Pa je Letisija pozvala vrhovno tužilaštvo i nekoliko ljudi je uhapšeno.
07:45
And this is just an example of a woman who never went to high school,
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A ovo je tek jedan primer žene koja nikad nije pohađala srednju školu,
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never went to college,
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nikad nije pohađala fakultet,
07:52
but she found her power.
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ali je pronašla svoju snagu.
07:53
And in addition, she has recruited other people in the community
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A uz to, regrutovala je druge ljude iz zajednice
07:57
to also run for public office,
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da se takođe kandiduju za javne funkcije,
07:59
and guess what -- they've all gotten themselves elected.
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i znate šta - svi su uspeli da budu izglasani.
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So, I take that Leticia really embodies
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Dakle, smatram da je Letisija zaista otelotvorenje
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something that Coretta Scott King said.
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nečega o čemu Koreta Skot King govori.
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And I want to share this with you. Coretta Scott King said,
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Želim s vama da podelim nešto što je Koreta Skot King rekla:
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"We will never have peace in the world until women take power."
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„Nikad nećemo imati mir u svetu dok žene ne preuzmu vlast.”
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
08:23
Now, I have amended that statement to say
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Sad, ja sam tu izjavu izmenila tako da glasi
08:26
that we will never have peace in the world until feminists take power.
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da nikad nećemo imati mir u svetu dok feministi ne preuzmu vlast.
08:31
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:32
Because we know there is a difference, right?
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Jer znamo da postoji razlika, zar ne?
08:34
Not only that, but if we want to define what is a feminist --
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Ne samo to, već ako želimo da definišemo šta je to feminista -
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a person who stands up for reproductive rights,
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osoba koja zastupa reproduktivna prava,
08:41
for immigrants' rights, for the environment,
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prava imigranata, ekologiju,
08:44
for LGBT rights and also for labor unions and working people.
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prava LGBT osoba kao i radničke sindkate i radnike.
08:49
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
08:54
Which also means that men can also be feminists.
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Što takođe znači da i muškarci mogu da budu feministi.
08:58
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09:04
So when we think of feminization,
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Kada razmišljamo o feminizaciji,
09:06
we should also think of how can we feminize the policies,
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trebalo bi takođe da razmišljamo kako možemo da feminizujemo zakone,
09:10
and not only of our major countries,
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i ne samo za naše najveće države,
09:12
the wealthy countries like the United States,
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bogate države poput Sjedinjenih Država,
09:14
but all over the world,
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već širom sveta,
09:16
our domestic and foreign policy.
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našu domaću i spoljnu politiku.
09:18
And one of the things that we can do to stop wars and to have peace
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A jedna od stvari koju možemo da uradimo da zaustavimo ratove i imamo mir
09:22
is to make sure that the wealthiest countries in the world
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je da se postaramo da najbogatije države sveta
09:25
also help the developing countries.
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takođe pomažu zemlje u razvoju.
09:27
Now, we did this in the past.
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Ovo smo nekad radili.
09:28
After World War II,
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Nakon Drugog svetskog rata,
09:30
when Japan and Germany were devastated after the war,
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kada su Japan i Nemačka bile razorene nakon rata,
09:33
United States of America gave many tax dollars to those two countries,
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Sjedinjene Američke Države su dale mnogo dolara od poreza ovim državama
09:39
so that they can rebuild their economies and rebuild their corporations.
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kako bi mogle da nanovo izgrade svoju ekonomiju i korporacije.
09:43
And we can do that again.
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A možemo to da uradimo ponovo,
09:46
And if we can think about how we can help these other countries.
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ako možemo da smislimo kako da pomognemo drugim državama.
09:49
And I want to give an example
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I želim da dam primer
09:50
of issues that we are facing in the United States of America,
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problema s kojim se suočavamo u Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama,
09:53
for instance.
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na primer.
09:54
We know that right now
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Znamo da trenutno
09:56
we have a lot of refugees from Central America
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imamo mnogo izbeglica iz Centralne Amerike
09:58
that are at the border of the United States.
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koji su na granici Sjedinjenih Država.
10:01
Why do people leave their homes,
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Zašto ljudi napuštaju svoje domove,
10:03
their beautiful homes that we go to as tourists?
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njihove prelepe domove, koje posećujemo kao turisti?
10:06
Because they don't have opportunities there.
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Jer tamo nemaju mogućnosti.
10:08
And then we think, "Hm, bananas."
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A onda mislimo: „Hm, banane.”
10:11
How many jillions of bananas do we consume in the United States every single day?
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Koliko ziliona banana konzumiramo u Sjedinjenim Državama svakog dana?
10:15
And throughout the world.
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Kao i širom sveta.
10:17
Now, do the people in Central America
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Sad, da li ljudi iz Centralne Amerike
10:19
get the profits from the bananas that we consume?
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imaju zaradu od banana koje mi konzumiramo?
10:23
No, they don't.
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Ne, nemaju.
10:24
The profits go to corporations from the United States of America.
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Zarada ide korporacijama iz Sjedinjenih Američkih Država.
10:29
And we think that this is wrong.
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I smatramo da je ovo pogrešno.
10:31
Now, if the people in Central America were to be able to get some of that money
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Kad bi ljudi iz Centralne Amerike mogli da dobiju deo tog novca
10:36
that we pay for bananas,
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koji plaćamo za banane,
10:37
then they wouldn't have to leave their homes.
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tada ne bi morali da napuštaju svoje domove.
10:40
They wouldn't have to come as asylum seekers
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Ne bi morali da dolaze i da traže dozvolu za azil
10:42
to the borders of the United States of America.
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na granicama Sjedinjenih Američkih Država.
10:44
And then maybe, many children would not have to be separated from their parents.
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I možda tada mnoga deca ne bi morala da budu razdvojena od svojih roditelja.
10:50
Now, we know that there are countries in the world
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Sad, znamo da postoje države u svetu
10:53
that actually have free education and have free health care
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koje zapravo imaju besplatno školstvo i imaju besplatno zdravstvo
10:57
for all of the people in their country.
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za sve ljude u državi.
10:59
And that country is Cuba.
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A ta država je Kuba.
11:01
Cuba has health care for every one of their citizens,
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Kuba ima obezbeđeno zdravstvo za svakog stanovnika
11:04
and they have a free college education for every one of their citizens.
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i imaju besplatno fakultetsko obrazovanje za svakog stanovnika.
11:08
They're 11 million citizens.
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Imaju 11 miliona stanovnika.
11:10
Now, we think, if a poor country like Cuba
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Smatramo da, ako siromašna zemlja poput Kube
11:13
can have these kind of resources, and we know that they're a poor country,
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može da ima ovakve resurse, a znamo da se radi o siromašnoj zemlji,
11:17
then why can't some of the other wealthier countries,
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onda zašto ne mogu neke bogatije države,
11:19
like the United States of America,
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poput Sjedinjenih Američkih Država,
11:21
do the same?
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da urade isto?
11:22
I think that we can make that happen.
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Mislim da možemo to da ostvarimo.
11:24
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
11:28
But we know it's not going to happen
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Međutim, znamo da se to neće desiti
11:29
until we, the people of the United States of America,
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dok mi, ljudi iz Sjedinjenih Američkih Država,
11:33
and people throughout the world,
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kao i ljudi širom sveta,
11:35
start making sure that they get public officials elected to their governments
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ne počnemo da se staramo da dobijemo izabrane zastupnike u vladama
11:40
that really care about the constituents, they care about people,
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koji će zaista da mare o biračima, koji će da mare za ljude,
11:44
they will commit to make sure that the resources that they have
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koji će se obavezati da će da se staraju da će resursi koje imaju
11:47
are going to be used for their citizens, and not to be used for war.
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biti upotrebljeni za njihove građane, a ne u ratne svrhe.
11:51
So, how do we make this happen?
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Pa, kako da dođe do ovoga?
11:53
We have to get rid of the apathy,
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Moramo da se otarasimo apatije,
11:55
we have to get more people involved.
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mora što više ljudi da se uključi.
11:57
We know that if we can't have a democracy in the United States,
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Znamo da, ako ne možemo da imamo demokratiju u Sjedinjenim Državama,
12:01
we can't have democracies throughout the world,
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ne možemo da imamo demokratiju širom sveta,
12:03
unless people participate.
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ukoliko ljudi ne učestvuju.
12:05
So it is imperative that all of us get out there and we say,
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Zato je imperativ da svi mi izađemo i kažemo:
12:09
"Get rid of the apathy, get off of the sidewalk,
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„Rešite se apatije, siđite sa trotoara,
12:13
come and join the march for peace and justice,
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dođite i pridružite se maršu za mir i pravdu.
12:15
let's make Coretta Scott's vision a reality,
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Ostvarimo viziju Korete Skot
12:18
to have peace in the world."
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da imamo mir u svetu.”
12:20
We recently had midterm elections in the United States of America.
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Imali smo nedavno srednjoročne izbore u Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama.
12:23
And what did we see?
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I šta smo videli?
12:25
We saw that so many more women,
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Videli smo da je mnogo više žena,
12:27
young people, people of color, LGBT folks,
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mladih ljudi, obojenih ljudi, LGBT ljudi
12:30
were all elected to public office.
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izabrano u javnu službu.
12:32
And we know this happened -- why?
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A znamo da se ovo desilo - jer?
12:34
Because so many women were on the march.
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Jer je toliko žena bilo na maršu.
12:37
We had the Women's March in the United States.
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Imali smo Marš žena u Sjedinjenim Državama.
12:40
They had the Women's Marches all over the world.
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Imali smo marševe žena širom sveta.
12:42
And so we now see that we have this potential.
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Stoga sad vidimo da imamo taj potencijal.
12:46
We have this potential to get rid of the apathy.
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Imamo potencijal da se otarasimo apatije.
12:48
And if we get everyone involved, get everyone committed,
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A ako uspemo sve da uključimo, uspemo sve da obavežemo,
12:52
then, I think, we can make Coretta Scott's vision come true.
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onda, smatram, da ćemo moći da ostvarimo viziju Korete Skot.
12:56
So, I want to just remind everybody,
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Dakle, samo želim sve da podsetim,
12:58
throughout the world, one of the things is,
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širom sveta, jedna od stvari
13:01
we have power,
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je da imamo moć,
13:03
poor people have power,
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siromašni ljudi imaju moć,
13:05
every citizen has power.
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svaki građanin ima moć.
13:06
But in order to achieve the peace that we all yearn for,
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Međutim, kako bismo ostvarili mir za kojim svi žudimo,
13:11
then we've all got to get involved.
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moramo svi da se uključimo.
13:13
So, what do we say?
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Dakle, šta kažemo?
13:15
Can we do it?
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Možemo li to da uradimo?
13:17
We say, "Yes, we can!"
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Kažemo: „Da, možemo!”
13:18
And in Spanish, we say, "Sí, se puede."
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A na španskom kažemo: „Sí, se puede.”
13:20
Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
13:21
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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