Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly: Be passionate. Be courageous. Be your best.

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Prevodilac: Ljiljana Ikodinovic Lektor: Mile Živković
00:12
Pat Mitchell: That day,
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Pet Mičel: Taj dan,
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January 8, 2011, began like all others.
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8. januar 2011. je počeo sasvim obično.
00:18
You were both doing the work that you love.
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Oboje ste radili posao koji volite.
00:21
You were meeting with constituents,
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Sretali ste se sa glasačima,
00:23
which is something that you loved doing
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što ste, kao kongresmenka,
00:26
as a congresswoman,
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voleli da radite,
00:27
and Mark, you were happily preparing
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a Mark, vi ste se sa zadovoljstvom pripremali
00:29
for your next space shuttle.
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za sledeći spejs-šatl.
00:32
And suddenly, everything that you had planned
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A tada je iznenada, sve što ste planirali
00:37
or expected in your lives
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ili očekivali u životu
00:39
was irrevocably changed forever.
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nepovratno promenjeno zauvek.
00:42
Mark Kelly: Yeah, it's amazing,
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Mark Keli: Da, neverovatno,
00:43
it's amazing how everything can change
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zapanjujuće je kako sve može da se promeni
00:45
for any of us in an instant.
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u deliću sekunde.
00:47
People don't realize that.
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Ljudi toga nisu svesni.
00:49
I certainly didn't.
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Ja sigurno nisam bio toga svestan.
00:50
Gabby Giffords: Yes.
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00:51
MK: And on that Saturday morning,
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Tog subotnjeg jutra
00:52
I got this horrible phone call
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sam primio taj užasan telefonski poziv
00:55
from Gabby's chief of staff.
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od Gebinog šefa Kabineta.
00:57
She didn't have much other information.
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Ona nije imala puno informacija.
00:59
She just said, "Gabby was shot."
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Samo je rekla: "Gebi je ustreljena".
01:01
A few minutes later, I called her back
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Ja sam je pozvao nekoliko minuta kasnije
01:03
and I actually thought for a second,
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i zaista sam za momenat pomislio
01:05
well, maybe I just imagined getting this phone call.
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da sam možda umislio taj telefonski poziv.
01:08
I called her back, and that's when she told me
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Nazvao sam je i ona mi je tada rekla
01:10
that Gabby had been shot in the head.
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da je Gebi pogođena u glavu.
01:12
And from that point on,
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Od tog momenta nadalje,
01:14
I knew that our lives were going to be a lot different.
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znao sam da će naši životi biti mnogo drugačiji.
01:17
PM: And when you arrived at the hospital,
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PM: A kada ste stigli u bolnicu,
01:19
what was the prognosis that they gave you
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kakvu su vam prognozu dali vezano za Gebino stanje
01:22
about Gabby's condition and what recovery, if any,
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i da li ste mogli da očekujete njen oporavak
01:25
you could expect?
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i ukoliko jeste, u kojoj meri?
01:27
MK: Well, for a gunshot wound to the head
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MK: Kada je u pitanju rana od metka u glavi
01:29
and a traumatic brain injury,
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i traumatološka povreda mozga
01:30
they typically can't tell you much.
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ne može vam se puno reći.
01:33
Every injury is different. It's not predictable
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Svaka povreda je drugačija. Nije predvidiva
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like often a stroke might be predictable,
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kao što to može biti moždani udar,
01:38
which is another TBI kind of injury.
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koji je druga vrsta traumatološke povrede mozga.
01:40
So they didn't know how long Gabby would be in a coma,
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Tako da nisu znali koliko će dugo Gebi biti u komi,
01:43
didn't know when that would change
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nisu znali kada će iz nje izaći
01:46
and what the prognosis would be.
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niti kakva će biti dalja prognoza.
01:49
PM: Gabby, has your recovery
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Gebi, da li je vaš oporavak
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been an effort to create a new Gabby Giffords
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bio pokušaj da kreirate novu Gebi Gifords
01:58
or reclaim the old Gabby Giffords?
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ili da iznova osvojite staru Gebi Gifords?
02:01
GG: The new one -- better, stronger, tougher.
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GG: Novu - bolju, jaču, snažniju.
02:05
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
02:10
MK: That to say,
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MK: S tim u vezi,
02:12
when you look at the picture behind us,
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kada pogledate fotografiju iza nas,
02:15
to come back from that kind of injury
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oporaviti se nakon takve povrede,
02:17
and come back strong and stronger than ever
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oporaviti se i biti snažan
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is a really tough thing to do.
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i snažniji neko ikada ranije
02:21
I don't know anybody
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je zaista teško. Ne poznajem nikoga
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that's as tough as my wonderful wife right here.
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ko je toliko snažan
02:25
(Applause)
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kao moja divna supruga. (Aplauz)
02:29
PM: And what were the first signs
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Koji su bili prvi znaci
02:31
that recovery was not only going to be possible
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da će oporavak biti ne samo moguć
02:35
but you were going to have some semblance
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već da ćete moći da živite život sličan onome
02:38
of the life that you and Gabby had planned?
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koji ste vi i Gebi planirali?
02:40
MK: Well, the first thing, for me, was
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MK: Pa, prvi znak za mene je bio kada je Gebi,
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Gabby was still kind of almost unconscious,
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još uvek gotovo bez svesti, učinila nešto
02:46
but she did something when she was in the ICU hospital bed
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dok je ležala na odeljenju intenzivne nege,
02:51
that she used to do when we might
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što je činila često kada bismo
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be out to dinner at a restaurant,
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recimo bili van kuće, u restoranu.
02:55
in that she pulled my ring off
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Skinula mi je prsten
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and she flipped it from one finger to the next,
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i prebacivala ga sa jednog prsta na drugi,
03:00
and at that point I knew
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i u tom momentu sam znao
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that she was still in there.
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da je ona još uvek tu.
03:04
PM: And there were certain words, too.
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PM: A bilo je i nekih reči.
03:06
Didn't she surprise you with words in the beginning?
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Nije li vas u početku iznenadila nekim rečima?
03:09
MK: Well, it was tough in the beginning. GG: What? What? Chicken. Chicken. Chicken.
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MK: Pa, u početku je bilo teško. GB: Šta? Šta? Pile. Pile. Pile.
03:15
MK: Yeah, that was it.
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Da, to je bilo to.
03:16
For the first month, that was the extent
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Tokom prvog meseca to je bio
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of Gabby's vocabulary.
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sav Gebin rečnik.
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For some reason, she has aphasia,
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Ona, iz nekog razloga pati od afazije,
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which is difficulty with communication.
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što je jezički poremećaj.
03:25
She latched on to the word "chicken,"
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Ona se zakačila za reč "pile"
03:28
which isn't the best but certainly is not the worst.
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što nije najbolja ali sigurno ni najgora reč.
03:31
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:32
And we were actually worried
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Zaista smo bili zabrinuti
03:34
it could have been a lot worse than that.
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jer je moglo biti mnogo gore od toga.
03:38
PM: Gabby, what's been the toughest challenge
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PM: Gebi, šta vam je bila najveća prepreka
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for you during this recovery?
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tokom oporavka?
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GG: Talking. Really hard. Really.
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GG: Govor. Stvarno teško. Stvarno.
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MK: Yeah, with aphasia, Gabby knows what she wants to say,
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MK: Da, s afazijom, Gebi zna šta želi da kaže
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she just can't get it out.
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ali ne može da to izgovori.
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She understands everything,
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Ona sve razume,
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but the communication is just very difficult
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ali joj je komunikacija jako otežana,
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because when you look at the picture,
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jer kada pogledate tu fotografiju,
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the part of your brain where those communication centers are
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deo mozga u kojem su smešteni centri za komunikaciju
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are on the left side of your head,
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je na levoj strani glave
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which is where the bullet passed through.
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i upravo je tuda prošao metak.
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PM: So you have to do a very dangerous thing:
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PM: Znači vi morate da radite jako opasnu stvar:
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speak for your wife.
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govorite u ime svoje supruge.
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MK: I do.
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Tako je.
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It might be some of the most dangerous things I've ever done.
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To bi mogla biti jedna od najopasnijih stvari koje sam ikada radio.
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PM: Gabby, are you optimistic
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Gebi, da li ste optimista
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about your continuing recovery --
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vezano za nastavak vašeg oporavka,
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walking, talking,
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hod, govor,
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being able to move your arm and leg?
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sposobnost da pomerate ruku i nogu?
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GG: I'm optimistic. It will be a long, hard haul,
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GG: Jesam. To će biti dugačak i težak put
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but I'm optimistic.
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ali sam optimista.
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PM: That seems to be the number one characteristic of Gabby Giffords,
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PM: To je izgleda glavna osobina Gebi Gifords,
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wouldn't you say? (Applause)
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zar ne? (Aplauz)
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MK: Gabby's always been really optimistic.
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MK: Gebi je uvek bila optimista.
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She works incredibly hard every day.
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Ona svakodnevno radi izuzetno naporno.
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GG: On the treadmill, walked on my treadmill,
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GG: Hodam na mojoj pokretnoj traci,
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Spanish lessons, French horn.
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časovi španskog jezika, horne.
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MK: It's only my wife who could be --
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MK: To može samo moja žena -
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and if you knew her before she was injured,
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da ste je poznavali pre povrede,
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you would kind of understand this --
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mogli biste ovo da razumete -
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somebody who could be injured
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neko ko je bio povređen
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and have such a hard time communicating
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i kome je toliko teško da komunicira
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and meets with a speech therapist,
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i ko radi sa logopedom,
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and then about a month ago, she says,
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i onda pre oko mesec dana kaže:
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"I want to learn Spanish again."
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"Hoću da učim španski - ponovo."
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PM: Well, let's take a little closer look
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PM: Hajde da bolje upoznamo
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at the wife, and this was even before
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vašu suprugu, a ovo je bilo čak pre
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you met Gabby Giffords.
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nego što ste upoznali Gebi Gifords.
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And she's on a motor scooter there,
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Ona je ovde na skuteru,
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but it's my understanding that's a very tame image
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ali koliko shvatam, ovo je vrlo blaga slika
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of what Gabby Giffords was like growing up.
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onoga kakva je Gebi bila tokom odrastanja.
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MK: Yeah, Gabby, she used to race motorcycles.
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MK: Da, Gebi je vozila na moto trkama
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So that's a scooter, but she had --
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Ovo je skuter, ali ona je imala,
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well, she still has a BMW motorcycle.
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zapravo još uvek ima BMW motocikl.
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PM: Does she ride it? MK: Well, that's a challenge
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PM: Da li ga i dalje vozi? MK: Pa, to je izazov
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with not being able to move her right arm,
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s obzirom da ne može da pomera desnu ruku,
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but I think with something I know about, Velcro,
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ali uz pomoc nečega što ja znam, čičak trake,
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we might be able to get her back on the bike,
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možda ćemo uspeti da je vratimo na motocikl,
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Velcro her right hand up onto the handlebar.
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pričvrstimo joj desnu ruku čičak trakom za korman.
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PM: I have a feeling we might see that picture next,
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PM: Čini mi se da ćemo uskoro
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Gabby.
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videti tu fotografiju, Gebi.
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But you meet, you're already decided
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Kada ste se upoznali, vi ste već odlučili
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that you're going to dedicate your life to service.
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da svoj život posvetite državnoj službi.
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You're going into the military
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Da idete u vojsku
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and eventually to become an astronaut.
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i na kraju postanete astronaut.
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So you meet.
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Kad ste se sreli,
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What attracts you to Gabby?
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šta vas je kod Gebi privuklo?
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MK: Well, when we met, oddly enough,
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MK: Pa, kada smo se upoznali, što je, za čudo,
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it was the last time we were in Vancouver,
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bilo poslednji put kada smo bili u Vankuveru,
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about 10 years ago. We met in Vancouver,
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pre oko deset godina. Upoznali smo se u Vankuveru,
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at the airport, on a trip that we were both taking
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na aerodromu, tokom zajedničkog putovanja
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to China,
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u Kinu,
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that I would actually, from my background,
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koje bih ja, sa mojim iskustvom
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I would call it a boondoggle.
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nazvao uzaludnim.
06:24
Gabby would — GG: Fact-finding mission.
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Gebi bi ga nazvala - GG: Projektom prikupljanja činjenica.
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MK: She would call it an important fact-finding mission.
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MK: Ona je u to vreme bila senator
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She was a state senator at the time,
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i mi smo se upoznali ovde na aerodromu,
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and we met here, at the airport,
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pre putovanja u Kinu.
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before a trip to China.
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PM: Da li biste taj susret opisali
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PM: Would you describe it as a whirlwind romance?
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kao vrtlog ljubavi?
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GG: No, no, no.
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GG: Ne, ne, ne.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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A good friend.
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Dobrim prijateljstvom.
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MK: Yeah, we were friends for a long time.
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MK: Da, mi smo bili dobri prijatelji jako dugo.
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GG: Yes. (Laughter)
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GG: Da. (Smeh)
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MK: And then she invited me on, about a year or so later,
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MK: I onda me je, posle oko godinu dana,
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she invited me on a date.
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pozvala na sastanak.
07:03
Where'd we go, Gabby?
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Gebi, gde smo išli?
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GG: Death row.
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GG: Kod osuđenih na smrt.
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MK: Yes. Our first date was to death row
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MK: Da, naš prvi sastanak je bio sa zatvorenicima koji čekaju
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at the Florence state prison in Arizona,
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izvršenje smrtne kazne u zatvoru Florens u Arizoni,
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which was just outside Gabby's state senate district.
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što je bilo nešto izvan Gebinog senatorskog reona.
07:18
They were working on some legislation
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Oni su radili na zakonskim propisima
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that had to do with crime and punishment
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koji su se odnosili na krivicu i kaznu
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and capital punishment in the state of Arizona.
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i smrtnu kaznu u Arizoni.
07:25
So she couldn't get anybody else to go with her,
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Nije uspela da pronađe nikoga ko bi išao sa njom,
07:28
and I'm like, "Of course I want to go to death row."
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a ja sam rekao: "Naravno da želim da idem kod osuđenih na smrt".
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So that was our first date.
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I eto, to je bio naš prvi sastanak.
07:34
We've been together ever since. GG: Yes.
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Od tada smo zajedno. GG: Da.
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PM: Well, that might have contributed to the reason
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PM: Pa, to je moglo da doprinese
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that Gabby decided to marry you.
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Gebinoj odluci da se uda za vas.
07:42
You were willing to go to death row, after all.
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Na kraju krajeva, bili ste spremni da tamo idete.
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MK: I guess.
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MK: Verovatno.
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PM: Gabby, what did make you want to marry Mark?
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PM: Gebi, zašto ste poželeli da se udate za Marka?
07:49
GG: Um, good friends. Best friends. Best friends.
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GG: Hmm, dobri prijatelji. Najbolji prijatelji.
07:55
MK: I thought we always
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MK: Mi smo oduvek imali
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had a very special relationship.
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vrlo poseban odnos.
08:01
We've gone through some tough times
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Zajedno smo prošli kroz mnogo toga
08:03
and it's only made it stronger. GG: Stronger.
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što je našu vezu samo osnažilo. GG: Osnažilo.
08:07
PM: After you got married, however,
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PM: Kada ste se venčali, vi ste ipak
08:09
you continued very independent lives.
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nastavili da vodite vrlo nezavisne živote.
08:12
Actually, you didn't even live together.
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Zapravo, niste čak ni živeli zajedno.
08:15
MK: We had one of those commuter marriages.
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MK: Mi smo imali "brak na daljinu"
08:17
In our case, it was Washington, D.C., Houston,
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U našem slučaju u pitanju je bio Vašington,
08:20
Tucson.
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Hjuston, Tuson.
08:21
Sometimes we'd go clockwise,
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Nekada bismo putovali u pravcu
08:22
sometimes counterclockwise,
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kazaljke na satu, nekada obrnuto
08:24
to all those different places,
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u sva ta mesta,
08:26
and we didn't really live together
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i nismo zaista zajedno živeli
08:29
until that Saturday morning.
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sve do tog subotnjeg jutra.
08:32
Within an hour of Gabby being shot,
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U roku od sat vremena, nakon Gebinog ranjavanja
08:34
I was on an airplane to Tucson,
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ja sam bio u avionu na putu ka Tusonu,
08:36
and that was the moment
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i to je bio momenat
08:38
where that had changed things.
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u kojem se to promenilo.
08:40
PM: And also, Gabby, you had run for Congress
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PM: Gebi, vi ste se kandidovali za Kongres
08:43
after being a state senator
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nakon što ste bili senator
08:45
and served in Congress for six years.
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i služili ste u Kongresu šest godina.
08:48
What did you like best
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Šta vam se, radeći u Kongresu,
08:50
about being in Congress?
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najviše dopalo?
08:52
GG: Fast pace. Fast pace.
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GG: Brz ritam. Brz ritam.
08:56
PM: Well it was the way you did it. GG: Yes, yes. Fast pace.
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PM: Pa, tako ste vi to radili. GG: Da, da. Brz ritam.
08:58
PM: I'm not sure people would describe it entirely that way.
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PM: Nisam sigurna da bi ljudi to baš tako opisali.
09:01
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:03
MK: Yeah, you know, legislation is often
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MK: Da, znate, zakonodavstvo je često
09:05
at a colossally slow pace,
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strahovito sporo,
09:07
but my wife, and I have to admit,
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ali moja supruga i mnogi drugi
09:10
a lot of other members of Congress that I know,
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kongresmeni koje poznajem
09:11
work incredibly hard.
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rade izuzetno naporno.
09:13
I mean, Gabby would run around like a crazy person,
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Gebi je jurila unaokolo kao luda,
09:15
never take a day off,
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nikada nije uzimala slobodan dan,
09:17
maybe a half a day off a month,
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možda pola dana mesečno,
09:19
and whenever she was awake she was working,
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i radila je tokom svakog svog budnog momenta,
09:21
and she really, really thrived on that,
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i ona je zaista cvetala radeći,
09:24
and still does today. GG: Yes. Yes.
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i još uvek je tako. GG: Da, da.
09:26
PM: Installing solar panels on the top of her house,
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PM: Ugrađuje solarne ploče na vrhu kuće,
09:29
I have to say.
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moram da primetim.
09:30
So after the tragic incident, Mark,
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Nakon tragičnog događaja, Mark, vi ste odlučili
09:33
you decided to resign
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da se povučete
09:35
your position as an astronaut,
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sa svog posla astronauta,
09:37
even though you were supposed to take
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iako ste trebali da letite
09:38
the next space mission.
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na sledećoj svemirskoj misiji.
09:40
Everybody, including Gabby,
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Svi, uključujući i Gebi,
09:42
talked you into going back,
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su vas nagovarali da se vratite,
09:43
and you did end up taking.
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što ste na kraju i uradili.
09:45
MK: Kind of. The day after Gabby was injured,
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MK: Na neki način. Dan nakon što je Gebi povređena,
09:48
I called my boss, the chief astronaut,
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pozvao sam svog šefa, glavnog astronauta,
09:51
Dr. Peggy Whitson, and I said,
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dr Pegi Vitson, i rekao:
09:53
"Peggy, I know I'm launching in space
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"Pegi, znam da polećem u kosmos
09:54
in three months from now.
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za tri meseca.
09:56
Gabby's in a coma. I'm in Tucson.
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Gebi je u komi. Ja sam u Tusonu.
09:59
You've got to find a replacement for me."
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Moraš da mi pronađeš zamenu".
10:01
So I didn't actually resign from being an astronaut,
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Tako da nisam dao ostavku na mesto astronauta
10:02
but I gave up my job and they found a replacement.
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ali sam se povukao sa svog posla i oni su mi našli zamenu.
10:05
Months later, maybe about two months later,
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Oko dva meseca kasnije,
10:08
I started about getting my job back,
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pokrenuo sam povratak na posao,
10:11
which is something,
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što je nešto,
10:12
when you become this primary caregiver person,
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znate, kada postanete primarni staratelj,
10:15
which some people in the audience here
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a neki od prisutnih
10:17
have certainly been in that position,
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su sigurno bili u toj poziciji,
to je zahtevna uloga, ali u nekom momentu
10:20
it's a challenging role but at some point
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10:21
you've got to figure out when you're going to get your life back,
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morate da odlučite kada ćete se vratiti svom životu.
10:24
and at the time, I couldn't ask Gabby
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U to vreme nisam mogao da pitam Gebi
10:26
if she wanted me to go fly in the space shuttle again.
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da li je želela da ponovo letim u spejs šatlu.
10:30
But I knew she was— GG: Yes. Yes. Yes.
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Ali sam znao da je ona bila - GG: Da. Da. Da.
10:32
MK: She was the biggest supporter of my career,
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MK: Ona je pružala najveću podršku mojoj karijeri
10:34
and I knew it was the right thing to do.
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i znao sam da činim pravu stvar.
10:36
PM: And yet I'm trying to imagine, Mark,
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PM: Ipak, Mark, pokušavam da zamislim,
10:38
what that was like, going off onto a mission,
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kako je to bilo, otići na zadatak,
10:42
one presumes safely, but it's never a guarantee,
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pretpostavljamo bezbedan, ali tu nema garancija,
10:45
and knowing that Gabby is —
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i znati da je Gebi -
10:48
MK: Well not only was she still in the hospital,
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MK: Ne samo da je još uvek bila u bolnici,
10:52
on the third day of that flight,
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tokom trećeg dana tog leta
10:54
literally while I was
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dok sam se ja doslovno
10:55
rendezvousing with the space station,
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sastajao sa svemirskom stanicom,
10:57
and you've got two vehicles moving at 17,500 miles an hour,
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tu se dve letelice kreću brzinom od 28.000 km/h,
11:00
I'm actually flying it, looking out the window,
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ja sam pilotirao, gledao kroz prozor
11:03
a bunch of computers,
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okružen gomilom kompjutera,
11:05
Gabby was in brain surgery,
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a Gebi je bila na operaciji mozga.
11:07
literally at that time having the final surgery
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Baš u to vreme je imala poslednju operaciju
11:10
to replace the piece of skull
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kojom je deo lobanje,
11:13
that they took out on the day she was injured
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koji su joj izvadili na dan ranjavanja
11:15
with a prosthetic, yeah, which is the whole side of her head.
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zamenjen protezom, koja joj pokriva čitavu stranu glave.
11:19
Now if any of you guys would ever come
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Ukoliko biste došli u naš dom,
11:21
to our house in Tucson for the first time,
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u našu kuću u Tusonu, po prvi put,
11:24
Gabby would usually go up to the freezer
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Gebi bi otišla do zamrzivača
11:26
and pull out the piece of Tupperware
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i izvadila plastičnu kutiju
11:28
that has the real skull. (Laughter)
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u kojoj se nalazi deo njene lobanje. (Smeh)
11:31
GG: The real skull. MK: Which freaks people out, sometimes.
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GG: Prave lobanje. MK: Što ponekad prestravi ljude.
11:34
PM: Is that for appetizer or dessert, Mark?
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PM: To je za predjelo ili dezert?
11:37
MK: Well, it just gets the conversation going.
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MK: Pa, pokrene razgovor.
11:42
PM: But there was a lot of conversation about
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PM: Bilo je puno govora oko
11:44
something you did, Gabby, after Mark's flight.
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nečega što ste vi, Gebi, uradili nakon Markovog leta.
11:47
You had to make another step of courage too,
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Morali ste da načinite još jedan akt hrabrosti,
11:50
because here was Congress deadlocked again,
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Kongres je bio blokiran, ponovo,
11:54
and you got out of the rehabilitation center,
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i vi ste izašli iz centra za rehabilitaciju,
12:00
got yourself to Washington
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otišli u Vašington
12:02
so that you could walk on the floor of the House --
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kako biste mogli da odete u Dom,
12:05
I can barely talk about this without getting emotional —
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teško mi je i da govorim o tome,
12:08
and cast a vote which could have been
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i tamo glasate, što je mogao biti
12:11
the deciding vote.
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odlučujući glas.
12:13
GG: The debt ceiling. The debt ceiling.
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GG: Stopa zaduženja. Stopa zaduženja.
12:16
MK: Yeah, we had that vote,
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MK: Da, to glasanje je bilo
12:18
I guess about five months after Gabby was injured,
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oko pet meseci nakon Gebine povrede,
12:20
and she made this bold decision to go back.
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i ona je donela hrabru odluku da se vrati.
12:23
A very controversial vote,
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To je bilo vrlo kontraverzno glasanje,
12:25
but she wanted to be there
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ali ona je želela da bude tamo
12:27
to have her voice heard one more time.
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i da se njen glas čuje još jednom.
12:29
PM: And after that, resigned
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PM: Nakon toga se povukla
12:31
and began what has been a very slow
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i započela vrlo spor
12:35
and challenging recovery.
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i težak oporavak.
12:37
What's life like, day to day?
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Kako izgleda vaš svakodnevni život?
12:40
MK: Well, that's Gabby's service dog Nelson.
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MK: Pa, ovo je Gebin pas pomoćnik Nelson.
12:43
GG: Nelson.
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GG: Nelson.
12:44
MK: New member of our family. GG: Yes, yes.
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MK: Nov član naše porodice. GG: Da, da.
12:47
MK: And we got him from a—
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MK: Dobili smo ga od -
12:50
GG: Prison. Murder. MK: We have a lot of connections
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GG: Zatvor. Ubistvo. MK: Dobro smo povezani
12:52
with prisons, apparently. (Laughter)
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sa zatvorima, očito. (Smeh)
12:54
Nelson came from a prison,
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Nelson je došao iz zatvora,
12:56
raised by a murderer in Massachusetts.
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odgajila ga je ubica iz Masačusetsa.
13:00
But she did a great job with this dog.
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Ali odlično je obučila ovog psa.
13:05
He's a fabulous service dog.
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On je fantastičan pas pomoćnik.
13:07
PM: So Gabby, what have you learned
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PM: I Gebi, šta ste naučili iz sopstvenog iskustva
13:10
from your experiences the past few years?
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tokom proteklih nekoliko godina?
13:14
MK: Yeah, what have you learned? GG: Deeper. Deeper.
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MK: Da, šta si naučila? GG: Dublje, dublje.
13:20
PM: Your relationship is deeper.
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PM: Vaš odnos je produbljen.
13:22
It has to be. You're together all the time now.
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Mora biti. Sada ste stalno zajedno.
13:25
MK: I imagine being grateful, too, right?
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MK: Mislim i da si zahvalna, zar ne?
13:28
GG: Grateful.
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GG: Zahvalna.
13:29
PM: This is a picture of family and friends gathering,
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PM: Ovo je fotografija sa porodičnog okupljanja,
13:31
but I love these pictures because they show
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ove fotografije mi se sviđaju jer pokazuju
13:35
the Gabby and Mark relationship now.
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Gebin i Markov sadašnji odnos.
13:39
And you describe it, Gabby, over and over,
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Gebi, a vi ga uvek iznova opisujete
13:41
as deeper on so many levels. Yes?
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kao produbljen na tako mnogo nivoa. Zar ne?
13:47
MK: I think when something tragic happens
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MK: Mislim da porodična tragedija
13:49
in a family, it can pull people together.
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zbližava ljude.
13:51
Here's us watching the space shuttle
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Ovde gledamo kako spejs šatl
13:54
fly over Tucson,
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leti iznad Tusona,
13:56
the Space Shuttle Endeavour,
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spejs šatl Endever,
13:57
the one that I was the commander on its last flight,
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čiji sam komandant bio tokom njegovog poslednjeg leta,
13:59
on its final flight on top of an airplane
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a tada na svom poslednjem letu na leđima boinga 747
14:03
on a 747 on its way to L.A.,
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na putu ka Los Anđelesu. Ljudi iz NASA-e su bili
14:06
NASA was kind enough to have it fly over Tucson.
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ljubazni da ga pošalju na let iznad Tusona.
14:11
PM: And of course, the two of you
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PM: Vas dvoje ste, naravno,
14:14
go through these challenges
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izloženi izazovima
14:16
of a slow and difficult recovery,
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sporog i teškog oporavka,
14:18
and yet, Gabby, how do you maintain
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Gebi, kako uspevate da održite
14:21
your optimism and positive outlook?
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optimizam i pozitivan ugao gledanja?
14:24
GG: I want to make the world a better place.
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GG: Želim da poboljšam svet.
14:28
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
14:35
PM: And you're doing that
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PM: To i činite
14:37
even though your recovery has to remain
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iako vaš oporavak mora da ostane
14:39
front and center for both of you.
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prioritet za oboje.
14:41
You are people who have done service
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Vi ste ljudi koji su služili
14:43
to your country and you are continuing to do that
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svojoj zemlji i koji nastavljaju da to čine
14:47
with a new initiative, a new purpose.
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sa novom inicijativom i svrhom.
14:50
And Gabby, what's on the agenda now?
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Gebi, šta imate sada u planu?
14:53
GG: Americans for Responsible Solutions.
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GG: Amerikanci za odgovorna rešenja.
14:57
MK: That's our political action committee,
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MK: To je naš politički akcioni komitet
15:01
where we are trying to get members of Congress
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kojim pokušavamo da privolimo članove Kongresa
15:04
to take a more serious look at gun violence in this country,
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da se ozbiljnije pozabave oružanim nasiljem u zemlji
15:08
and to try to
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i da pokušaju
15:09
pass some reasonable legislation.
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da usvoje neke razumne zakone.
15:11
GG: Yes. Yes. (Applause)
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GG: Da. Da. (Aplauz)
MK: Znate, oružano nasilje je na nas uticalo vrlo lično,
15:19
MK: You know, this affected us very personally,
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15:21
but it wasn't what happened to Gabby that got us involved.
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ali nije nas pokrenulo ono što se desilo Gebi.
15:24
It was really the 20 murdered first graders
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Pokrenulo nas je ubistvo 20 đaka prvaka
15:28
and kindergartners in Newtown, Connecticut,
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i dece iz zabavišta u Njutaunu u Konektikatu,
15:31
and the response that we saw afterwards
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i reakcija koju smo nakon toga videli
15:33
where -- well, look what's happened so far.
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gde - pa, pogledajmo šta se do sada dogodilo.
15:37
So far the national response has been
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Do sada smo kao nacija reagovali,
15:39
pretty much to do nothing.
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uglavnom ne čineći ništa.
15:40
We're trying to change that.
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Mi pokušavamo da to promenimo.
15:42
PM: There have been 11 mass shootings
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PM: Bilo je 11 masovnih pucnjava
15:43
since Newtown,
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od Njutauna,
15:44
a school a week in the first two months of last year.
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po jedna škola nedeljno, tokom prva dva meseca prošle godine.
15:48
What are you doing that's different
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Šta to vi činite drugačije
15:49
than other efforts to balance
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od drugih napora da se izbalansira
15:52
rights for gun ownership and responsibilities?
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pravo na posedovanje oružja sa odgovornošću?
15:54
MK: We're gun owners, we support gun rights.
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MK: Mi posedujemo oružje i podržavamo to pravo.
15:57
At the same time, we've got to do everything we can
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U isto vreme, moramo da učinimo sve u našoj moći
15:59
to keep guns out of the hands of criminals
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da oružje ne dospe u ruke kriminalaca
16:02
and the dangerously mentally ill.
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i opasnih mentalnih bolesnika.
16:03
It's not too difficult to do that.
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To nije previše teško.
16:06
This issue, like many others,
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Ovaj problem je, kao i mnogi drugi,
16:08
has become very polarizing and political,
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ispolitizovan i doveo do podela,
16:12
and we're trying to bring some balance
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i mi pokušavamo da unesemo ravnotežu
16:14
to the debate in Washington.
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u raspravu u Vašingtonu.
16:15
PM: Thank you both for that effort.
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PM: Hvala vam oboma na tom naporu.
16:17
And not surprisingly for this woman of courage
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I ne iznenađujuće za ovu hrabru ženu
16:21
and of a sense of adventure,
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sa avanturističkim duhom,
16:22
you just keep challenging yourself,
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vi nastavljate da sebi postavljate izazove
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and the sky seems to be the limit.
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koji, kako se čini idu do neba.
16:27
I have to share this video
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Želim da pokažem ovaj snimak
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of your most recent adventure.
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vaše najnovije avanture.
16:31
Take a look at Gabby.
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Pogledajte Gebi.
16:34
MK: This is a couple months ago.
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MK: To je bilo pre nekoliko meseci.
16:41
(Video) MK: You okay? You did great. GG: Yes, it's gorgeous. Thank you.
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(Video) MK: Jesi li dobro? Odlično ti ide. GG: Da, predivno je. Hvala ti.
16:44
Good stuff. Gorgeous. Oh, thank you.
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Super. Sjajno. O, hvala ti.
16:50
Mountains. Gorgeous mountains.
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Planine, predivne planine.
(Aplauz)
16:59
(Applause)
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Samo da dodam da je jedan od momaka
17:01
MK: Let me just say
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one of the guys that Gabby jumped with
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sa kojima je Gebi tog dana skakala
17:05
that day was a Navy SEAL
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bio iz mornaričkih Foka.
17:08
who she met in Afghanistan
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Gebi ga je upoznala u Avganistanu
17:10
who was injured in combat,
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gde je bio povređen u borbi,
17:11
had a really rough time.
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i kojem je zaista bilo teško.
17:13
Gabby visited him
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Gebi ga je posetila
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when he was at Bethesda
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kada je bio u Betezdi
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and went through a really tough period.
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i prolazio kroz vrlo težak period.
17:18
He started doing better.
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Počeo je da se bolje oseća,
17:20
Months later, Gabby was shot in the head,
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nekoliko meseci kasnije je Gebi nastradala
17:22
and then he supported her
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i tada je on pomogao njoj
17:23
while she was in the hospital in Houston.
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dok je bila u bolnici u Hjustonu.
17:25
So they have a very, very nice connection.
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Tako da imaju jako, jako lep odnos.
17:28
GG: Yes.
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GG: Da.
17:29
PM: What a wonderful moment.
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PM: Kakav divan momenat.
17:30
Because this is the TED stage,
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Pošto je ovo TED pozornica,
17:32
Gabby, I know you worked very hard
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Gebi, znam da ste radili jako naporno
17:35
to think of the ideas that you wanted to leave
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na osmišljavanju ideja koje želite
17:39
with this audience.
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da prenesete ovoj publici.
17:40
GG: Thank you.
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GG: Hvala vam.
17:46
Hello, everyone.
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Zdravo svima.
17:48
Thank you for inviting us here today.
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Hvala što ste nas pozvali.
17:53
It's been a long, hard haul,
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Ovo je bio dug i naporan put,
17:55
but I'm getting better.
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ali se oporavljam.
17:58
I'm working hard,
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Naporno radim,
18:00
lots of therapy -- speech therapy,
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puno terapije - logoped,
18:03
physical therapy, and yoga too.
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fizikalna terapija i joga.
18:07
But my spirit is strong as ever.
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Ali moj duh je snažan kao i uvek.
18:09
I'm still fighting to make the world a better place,
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Još uvek se borim da poboljšam svet,
18:13
and you can too.
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to možete i vi.
18:16
Get involved with your community.
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Uključite se u život svoje zajednice,
18:20
Be a leader. Set an example.
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Budite vođa. Budite primer.
18:23
Be passionate. Be courageous.
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Budite strastveni, budite hrabri,
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Be your best. Thank you very much.
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budite najbolji što mozete. Puno vam hvala.
18:30
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
18:33
MK: Thank you. GG: Thank you.
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MK: Hvala vam. GG: Hvala vam.
18:37
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
18:39
MK: Thank you everybody. GG: Bye bye. (Applause)
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MK: Hvala vam svima. GG: Zbogom. (Aplauz)
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