How I named, shamed and jailed | Anas Aremeyaw Anas

Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast

Prevodilac: Dejan Vicai Lektor: Mile Živković

I am sorry I cannot show you my face,

Žao mi je, ali ne mogu da vam pokažem svoje lice,

because if I do, the bad guys will come for me.

jer ako ga pokažem, loši momci će doći po mene.

My journey started 14 years ago.

Moja pustolovina je počela pre 14 godina.

I was a young reporter. I had just come out of college.

Bio sam mlad novinar. Svež sa fakulteta.

Then I got a scoop.

A onda sam naleteo na vest.

The scoop was quite a very simple story.

Vest je bila poprilično jednostavna priča.

Police officers were taking bribes

Policajci su primali mito

from hawkers who were hawking on the streets.

od torbara koji su poslovali na ulicama.

As a young reporter, I thought that I should do it

Kao mlad novinar, pomislio sam da bi trebalo da ovo uradim

in a different way, so that it has a maximum impact,

na drugačiji način, da ima najveći uticaj,

since everybody knew that it was happening,

pošto su svi znali da se to dešava,

and yet there was nothing that was keeping it out of the system.

i nije postojalo ništa što bi to sklonilo iz sistema.

So I decided to go there

Odlučio sam da odem tamo

and act as a seller.

i da se pretvaram da sam torbar.

As part of selling, I was able to document

Kao deo prodaje, uspeo sam da dokumentujem

the hard core evidence.

čvrste dokaze.

The impact was great.

Efekat je bio sjajan.

It was fantastic.

Bilo je fantastično.

This was what many call immersion journalism,

Ovo je bilo ono što mnogi zovu uranjajućim novinarstvom

or undercover journalism.

ili tajnim novinarstvom.

I am an undercover journalist.

Ja sam tajni novinar.

My journalism is hinged on three basic principles:

Moje novinarstvo počiva na tri osnovna principa:

naming, shaming and jailing.

imenovanje, posramljivanje i hapšenje.

Journalism is about results.

U novinarstvu se radi o rezultatima.

It's about affecting your community or your society

Radi se o uticaju na svoju zajednicu i svoje društvo

in the most progressive way.

na najnapredniji mogući način.

I have worked on this for over 14 years,

Radio sam na tome više od 14 godina,

and I can tell you, the results are very good.

i mogu vam reći, rezultati su jako dobri.

One story that comes to mind

Jedna priča koje se prisećam

in my undercover pieces

iz svojih tajnih zadataka

is "Spirit Child."

je "Dete duh."

It was about children who were born with deformities,

Radilo se o deci koja su rođena sa deformititetima,

and their parents felt that once they were born

a njihovi roditelji su mislili da kada se rode

with those deformities,

sa tim deformititetima,

they were not good enough to live in the society,

nisu dovoljno dobra da bi živela u društvu,

so they were given some concoction to take

pa su im davali da popiju neki napitak

and as a result they died.

i kao rezultat toga deca su umrla.

So I built a prosthetic baby,

Napravio sam veštačku bebu,

and I went into the village,

otišao u selo,

pretended as though this baby had been born

pretvarao se da je ova beba rođena

with a deformity, and here was the guys who do the killing.

sa deformititetom i tu su bili ljudi koji su rešavali ubijanja.

They got themselves ready.

Pripremili su se.

In their bids to kill, I got the police on standby,

Pošto je ubistvo bilo sigurno, policija je bila na pripravnosti,

and they came that fateful morning

došli su tog kobnog jutra

to come and kill the child.

došli su da ubiju dete.

I recall how they were seriously boiling the concoction.

Sećam se kako su ozbiljno pripremali napitak.

They put it on fire. It was boiling hot,

Stavili bi ga na vatru. Napitak bi ključao

getting ready to give to the kids.

dok su se spremali da ga daju deci.

Whilst this was going on, the police I had alerted,

Dok se ovo dešavalo, policija koju sam obavestio,

they were on standby,

bila je u pripravnosti,

and just as the concoction was ready,

i kako je napitak bio gotov,

and they were about to give it to the kids,

i kako su hteli da ga daju deci,

I phoned the police,

pozvao sam policiju,

and fortunately they came and busted them.

srećom došli su i uhapsili su ih.

As I speak now, they are before the courts.

Dok vam ovo pričam, pred sudom su.

Don't forget the key principles:

Ne zaboravite ključne principe:

naming, shaming and jailing.

imenovanje, posramljivanje i hapšenje.

The court process is taking place,

Sudski proces se odvija,

and I'm very sure at the end of the day

uveren sam da ćemo ih na kraju dana

we will find them, and we will put them

naći i staviti ih

where they belong too.

gde pripadaju.

Another key story that comes to mind,

Još jedna ključna priča koja mi pada na pamet,

which relates to this spirit child phenomenon,

a koja je povezana sa fenomenom deteta duha,

is "The Spell of the Albinos."

je "Albino čarolija."

I'm sure most of you may have heard, in Tanzania,

Siguran sam da je većina vas čula da, u Tanzaniji,

children who are born with albinism

deca koja se rode sa albinizmom

are sometimes considered as being unfit

smatraju se da nisu sposobna

to live in society.

da žive u društvu.

Their bodies are chopped up with machetes

Njihova tela su isečena mačetama

and are supposed to be used for some concoctions

i koriste se u nekim smesama

or some potions for people to get money --

ili napicima kako bi ljudi došli do novca -

or so many, many stories people would tell about it.

toliko mnogo, mnogo priča bi ljudi pričali o tome.

It was time to go undercover again.

Bilo je vreme da odem na tajni zadataka ponovo.

So I went undercover as a man who was interested

Prerušio sam se u čoveka koji je zainteresovan

in this particular business, of course.

za takav posao, naravno.

Again, a prosthetic arm was built.

Ponovo, napravio sam veštačku ruku.

For the first time, I filmed on hidden camera

Po prvi put, snimio sam skrivenom kamerom

the guys who do this, and they were ready to buy the arm

tipove koji rade ovo, i bili su spremni da kupe ruku

and they were ready to use it to prepare

bili su spremni da je iskoriste da bi napravili

those potions for people.

napitak za ljude.

I am glad today the Tanzanian government has taken action,

Srećan sam što je vlada Tanzanije preduzela nešto,

but the key issue is that the Tanzanian government

ključna stvar je da je vlada Tanzanije

could only take action because the evidence was available.

bila u stanju da preduzme nešto samo zbog postojanja dokaza.

My journalism is about hard core evidence.

Moje novinarstvo se sastoji od čvrstih dokaza.

If I say you have stolen, I show you the evidence

Ako kažem da si ukrao, pokažem ti dokaz

that you have stolen.

da si ukrao.

I show you how you stole it

Pokazaću ti kako si ukrao

and when, or what you used

i kada ili kako si koristio

what you had stolen to do.

ukradenu stvar.

What is the essence of journalism if it doesn't benefit society?

Šta je suština novinarstva ako ne koristi društvu?

My kind of journalism is a product

Moje novinarstvo je proizvod

of my society.

mog društva.

I know that sometimes

Znam da ponekad

people have their own criticisms

ljudi imaju svoje kritike

about undercover journalism.

uperene ka tajnom novinarstvu.

(Video) Official: He brought out some money from his pockets

(Video) Zvaničnik: Izvadio je nešto novca iz svojih džepova

and put it on the table,

i stavio ga na sto,

so that we should not be afraid.

kako se ne bismo plašili.

He wants to bring the cocoa and send it to Cote d'Ivoire.

Želi da donese kakao i da pošalje na Obalu Slonovače.

So with my hidden intention, I kept quiet.

Sa svojim skrivenim motivom, ćutao sam.

I didn't utter a word.

Nisam prozborio ni reč.

But my colleagues didn't know.

Ali moje kojelege nisu znale.

So after collecting the money,

Nakon podizanja para,

when he left, we were waiting for him to bring the goods.

nakon što je otišao, čekali smo da donese robu.

Immediately after he left, I told my colleagues that

Odmah nakon što su otišli, rekao sam kolegama

since I was the leader of the group,

jer sam bio vođa grupe,

I told my colleagues that if they come,

rekao sam kolegama da ako dođu,

we will arrest them.

uhapsićemo ih.

Second official: I don't even know the place called [unclear].

Drugi zvaničnik: Ni ne znam mesto zvano [nejasno].

I've never stepped there before.

Nikad nisam kročio tamo.

So I'm surprised.

Iznenađen sam.

You see a hand counting money just in front of me.

Vidim ruku kako broji pare ispred mene.

The next moment, you see the money in my hands,

U sledećem trenutku, vidim pare u mojim rukama,

counting, whereas I have not come into contact with anybody.

brojim, iako nisam stupio u kontakt ni sa kim.

I have not done any business with anybody.

Nisam poslovao ni sa kim.

Reporter: When Metro News contacted investigative reporter

Novinar: Kada je Metro Njuz kontaktirao istraživačkog novinara

Anas Aremeyaw Anas for his reaction,

Anas Aremajav Anasa zbog njegove reakcije,

he just smiled and gave this video extract

samo se nasmejao i dao ovaj snimak

he did not use in the documentary recently shown onscreen.

koji nije koristio u dokumentarcu nedavno objavljenom.

The officer who earlier denied involvement

Policajac koji je prethodno poricao umešanost

pecks a calculator to compute the amount of money

pritiska po digitronu da izračuna sumu novca

they will charge on the cocoa to be smuggled.

koju će naplatiti za krijumčarenje kakaoa.

Anas Aremeyaw Anas: This was another story on anticorruption.

Anas Aremejav Anas: Ovo je bila još jedna priča o antikorupciji.

And here was him, denying.

Bio je tu i poricao.

But you see, when you have the hard core evidence,

Ali vidite, kada imate čvrsti dokaz,

you are able to affect society.

možete uticati na društvo.

Sometimes these are some of the headlines that come. (Music)

Ponekad su to neki od naslova koji se pojave. (Muzika)

[I will curse Anas to death]

[Proklinjaću Anasa do smrti]

[Anas Lies]

[Anas laže]

[Alarm Blows Over Anas' News for Cash Video]

[Eksplozivni alarm zbog Anasovog videa vesti za pare]

[Agenda Against Top CEPS Officials Exposed]

[Otkrivena agenda protiv vrhunskih CEPS funkcionera]

[Anas Operates with Invisible Powers?]

[Anas raspolaže nevidljivim moćima?]

[Gov't Wobbles Over Anas Video]

[Vlada se zateturala zbog Anasovog videa]

[Hunting the Hunter]

[Lov na lovca]

[Anas 'Bribe' Men in Court]

[Anas "podmićuje" ljude na sudu]

[15 Heads Roll Over Anas Tape]

[15 glava se kotrlja zbog Anasovog snimka]

[Finance Minister Backs Anas]

[Ministar finansija podržava Anasa]

[11 Given Queries Over Anas' Story]

[11 istraga zbog Anasove priče]

[GJA Stands By Anas]

[GJA stoji uz Anasa]

[Prez. Mills Storms Tema Harbour Over Anas Video]

[Predsednik Mils prevrće luku Tema zbog Anasovog videa]

["Late Prof. John Evans Atta Mills: Former president of Ghana"]

[Preminuli prof. Džon Evans Ata Mils: bivši predsednik Gane]

John Evans Atta Mills: What Anas says

Džon Evans Ata Mils: Ono što Anas priča

is not something which is unknown to many of us,

poznato je mnogima od nas,

but please, those of you who are agents,

ali vas molim, vi koji ste agenti,

and who are leading the customs officers into temptation,

i koji dovodite carinike u iskušenje,

I'm telling you, Ghana is not going to say

kažem van, Gana neće reći

any good things to you about this.

ništa dobro o tome.

AAA: That was my president.

AAA: To je bio moj predsednik.

I thought that I couldn't come here

Mislio sam da ne mogu doći ovamo,

without giving you something special.

a da vam ne dam nešto posebno.

I have a piece, and I'm excited that

Imam novost i uzbuđen sam

I'm sharing it for the first time with you here.

što mogu da je podelim prvi put sa vama ovde.

I have been undercover in the prisons.

Bio sam na tajnom zadatku u zatvorima.

I have been there for a long time.

Bio sam tamo duže vreme.

And I can tell you, what I saw is not nice.

I mogu vam reći, to što sam video nije lepo.

But again, I can only affect society

Još jednom, mogu uticati samo na društvo

and affect government if I bring out the hard core evidence.

i uticati na vladu ako iznesem čvrste dokaze.

Many times, the prison authorities have denied

Mnogo puta, zatvorske vlasti su poricale

ever having issues of drug abuse,

da su ikada imale problema sa drogom,

issues of sodomy, so many issues they would deny

probleme sodomije, poricali su postojanje toliko problema

that it ever happens.

i to da su se ikada dešavali.

How can you obtain the hard core evidence?

Kako možete nabaviti čvrste dokaze?

So I was in the prison. ["Nsawan Prison"]

Bio sam u zatvoru. ["Zatvor Nsavan (Nsawan)"]

Now, what you are seeing is a pile of dead bodies.

Upravo gledate hrpu leševa.

Now, I happen to have followed one of my inmates,

Igrom slučaja sam pratio jednog zatvorenika,

one of my friends, from his sick bed till death,

jednog drugara, od bolesti do smrti,

and I can tell you it was not a nice thing at all.

i mogu vam reći da to uopšte nije bila lepa stvar.

There were issues of bad food being served

Bilo je problema sa služenjem pokvarene hrane.

as I recall that some of the food I ate

Koliko se sećam, neka hrana koju sam jeo

is just not good for a human being.

jednostavno nije za ljudska bića.

Toilet facilities: very bad.

Toaletne prostorije: jako loše.

I mean, you had to queue to get proper toilets to attend --

Mislim, morali ste stati u red da biste došli do odgovarajućeg toaleta -

and that's what I call proper,

i ono zovem odgovarajućim,

when four of us are on a manhole.

kada je nas četvorica na šahtu.

It is something that if you narrate it to somebody,

Ako biste ovo nekome ispričali,

the person wouldn't believe it.

ta osoba vam ne bi verovala.

The only way that you can let the person believe

Jedini način da vam ta osoba poveruje

is when you show hard core evidence.

jeste da pokažete čvrste dokaze.

Of course, drugs were abundant.

Naravno, droga je bilo u izobilju.

It was easier to get cannabis, heroin and cocaine,

Bilo je lakše nabaviti kanabis, heroin i kokain,

faster even, in the prison than outside the prison.

čak i brže, u zatvoru, nego izvan njega.

Evil in the society is an extreme disease.

Zlo u društvu je ekstremna bolest.

If you have extreme diseases,

Ako imate ekstremnu bolest,

you need to get extreme remedies.

morate nabaviti ekstremne lekove.

My kind of journalism might not fit in other continents

Moj način novinarstva možda nije moguć na drugim kontinentima

or other countries,

ili u drugim zemljama,

but I can tell you, it works in my part of the continent

ali vam mogu reći, deluje u mom delu kontinenta Afrike,

of Africa, because usually, when people talk

jer obično kada ljudi pričaju

about corruption, they ask, "Where is the evidence?

o korupciji, pitaju: "Gde je dokaz?

Show me the evidence."

Pokaži mi dokaze."

I say, "This is the evidence."

Ja kažem: "Ovo je dokaz."

And that has aided in me putting a lot of people behind bars.

To mi je pomoglo da smestim puno ljudi iza rešetaka.

You see, we on the continent are able

Vidite, mi na afričkom kontinentu umemo

to tell the story better because we face the conditions

da ispričamo priču bolje jer se suočavamo sa uslovima

and we see the conditions.

i vidimo uslove.

That is why I was particularly excited

Zato sam bio izuzetno uzbuđen

when we launched our "Africa Investigates" series

kada smo pokrenuli naš serijal "Afrika istražuje"

where we investigated a lot of African countries.

gde smo istraživali mnogo afričkih zemalja.

As a result of the success of the "Africa Investigates" series,

Kao rezultat uspeha serijala "Afrika istražuje",

we are moving on to World Investigates.

prelazimo na Svet istražuje.

By the end of it, a lot more bad guys

Kao rezultat, mnogo loših ljudi

on our continent will be put behind bars.

na našem kontinentu će biti iza rešetaka,

This will not stop.

Ovo neće stati.

I'm going to carry on with this kind of journalism,

Nastaviću ovakav način novinarstva,

because I know that when evil men destroy,

jer znam da kada se zli ljudi unište,

good men must build and bind.

dobri ljudi moraju da grade i povezuju.

Thank you very much.

Hvala vam mnogo.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Chris Anderson: Thank you. Thank you.

Kris Anderson: Hvala. Hvala.

I have some questions for you.

Imam nekoliko pitanja.

How did you end up in jail? This was just a few weeks ago, I believe, yeah?

Kako ste završili u zatvoru? To je bilo pre samo nekoliko nedelja, zar ne?

AAA: Sure. You know, undercover is all about

AAA: Naravno. Znate, kod tajnih zadataka se radi uglavnom

setting the priorities right, so we got people

o određivanju prioriteta, imamo ljude

to take me to court.

koji me dovedu na sud.

So I went through the very legal process,

Prošao sam kroz veoma legalan proces,

because at the end of the day, the prison authorities

jer na kraju dana, zatvorske vlasti

want to check whether indeed you have been there or not,

žele da provere da li si zapravo bio tamo ili ne,

and that's how I got in there.

i tako sam upao tamo.

CA: So someone sued you in court,

KA: Znači neko vas je tužio,

and they took you there, and you were in remand custody

odveli su vas na sud i bili ste u istražnom pritvoru

for part of it, and you did that deliberately.

zbog zadatka i to ste namerno uradili.

AAA: Yes, yes.

AAA: Da, da.

CA: Talk to me just about fear

KA: Pričajte mi o strahu

and how you manage that,

i kako vam uspeva da ga savladate,

because you're regularly putting your life at risk.

jer redovno stavljate glavu u torbu.

How do you do that?

Kako uspevate?

AAA: You see, undercover is always a last resort.

AAA: Vidite, tajni zadaci su uvek poslednji potez.

Before we go undercover, we follow the rules.

Pre tog poteza, pratimo pravila.

And I'm only comfortable and I'm purged of fear

Udobno mi je i oslobođen sam od straha

whenever I am sure that all the steps

samo kada sam siguran da su preduzete

have been taken. I don't do it alone. I have a backup team

sve mere. Ne radim to sam. Imam podršku ekipe

who help ensure that the safety and all the systems

koja mi pomaže da se postaram da su bezbednost i svi sistemi

are put in place, but you've got to take

na mestu, ali morate doneti

very intelligent decisions whenever they are happening.

veoma inteligentne odluke kad god se dešavaju.

If you don't, you will end up losing your life.

Ako ne učinite tako, izgubićete život.

So yes, when the backup systems are put in place,

Da, kada su rezervni sistemi na mestu,

I'm okay, I go in. Risky, yes,

u redu sam, ulazim. Rizično je, da,

but it's a hazard of a profession.

ali je to opasnost profesije.

I mean, everybody has their hazard.

Mislim, svako ima svoje opasnosti.

And once you say that is yours,

Kada jednom kažete da su ovo vaše,

you've got to take it, as and when it comes.

morate ih prihvatiti kada i ako se pojave.

CA: Well, you're an amazing human and you've done amazing work

KA: Vi ste izuzetan čovek i vaš rad je neverovatan

and you've taught us a story

i pružili ste nam priču

like no story I think any of us have heard before.

poput nijedne druge koju je neko od nas čuo do sada.

And we're appreciative. We salute you. Thank you so much, Anas.

Zahvalni smo. Pozdravljamo vas. Hvala vam puno, Anas.

AAA: Thank you.

AAA: Hvala vama.

CA: Thank you. Stay safe. (Applause)

KA. Hvala. Budite bezbedni. (Aplauz)