How I named, shamed and jailed | Anas Aremeyaw Anas

Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast

Translator: David J. Kreps Finnemann Reviewer: Anders Finn Jørgensen

I am sorry I cannot show you my face,

Jeg er ked af at jeg ikke kan vise jer mit ansigt,

because if I do, the bad guys will come for me.

fordi hvis jeg gør det, vil de onde fyre kommer efter mig.

My journey started 14 years ago.

Min rejse startede for 14 år siden.

I was a young reporter. I had just come out of college.

Jeg var en ung reporter. Jeg var lige kommet ud fra universitetet.

Then I got a scoop.

Så fik jeg et scoop.

The scoop was quite a very simple story.

Scoopet var egentlig en virkelig simpel historie.

Police officers were taking bribes

Politifolk tog imod bestikkelse

from hawkers who were hawking on the streets.

fra gadesælgere der solgte på gaden.

As a young reporter, I thought that I should do it

Som ung reporter, troede jeg at jeg burde gøre det på

in a different way, so that it has a maximum impact,

en anden måde, så det har maksimal indvirkning,

since everybody knew that it was happening,

siden alle vidste at det foregik,

and yet there was nothing that was keeping it out of the system.

og der på trods af det ikke var noget der holdte det ude af systemet.

So I decided to go there

Så jeg besluttede mig for at tage derhen

and act as a seller.

og optræde som sælger.

As part of selling, I was able to document

Som en del af salg, var jeg i stand til at dokumentere

the hard core evidence.

de hårde beviser.

The impact was great.

Indvirkningen var stor.

It was fantastic.

Det var fantastisk.

This was what many call immersion journalism,

Dette var det mange kalder immersion journalisme,

or undercover journalism.

eller undercover journalistik.

I am an undercover journalist.

Jeg er en undercover journalist.

My journalism is hinged on three basic principles:

Min journalisme hængsler på tre grundlæggende principper:

naming, shaming and jailing.

nævne, skamme og sætte bag tremmer.

Journalism is about results.

Journalisme handler om resultater.

It's about affecting your community or your society

Det handler om at påvirke ens nærsamfund eller ens samfund

in the most progressive way.

på den mest progressive måde.

I have worked on this for over 14 years,

Jeg har arbejdet på dette i mere end 14 år,

and I can tell you, the results are very good.

og jeg kan sige jer, at resultaterne er rigtig gode.

One story that comes to mind

En historie jeg kan huske

in my undercover pieces

fra mine undercover stykker

is "Spirit Child."

er "Spirit Child."

It was about children who were born with deformities,

Det handlede om børn der blev født med misdannelser,

and their parents felt that once they were born

og deres forældre følte at da de blev født

with those deformities,

med de misdannelser,

they were not good enough to live in the society,

var de ikke gode nok til at leve i samfundet,

so they were given some concoction to take

så de blev givet en eller anden form for bryg

and as a result they died.

og som resultat deraf døde de.

So I built a prosthetic baby,

Så jeg byggede en kunstig baby,

and I went into the village,

og jeg gik ind i landsbyen,

pretended as though this baby had been born

lod som om denne baby var blevet født

with a deformity, and here was the guys who do the killing.

med en misdannelse, og her var fyrene der begik drabene.

They got themselves ready.

De gjorde sig selv klar.

In their bids to kill, I got the police on standby,

I deres forsøg på at dræbe, havde jeg politiet på standby,

and they came that fateful morning

og de kom den skæbnefyldte morgen

to come and kill the child.

for at dræbe barnet.

I recall how they were seriously boiling the concoction.

Jeg husker hvordan de alvorligt kogte bryggen.

They put it on fire. It was boiling hot,

De satte ild til det. Det var kogende varmt,

getting ready to give to the kids.

gjorde klar til at give det til børnene.

Whilst this was going on, the police I had alerted,

Mens dette foregik, var det politi jeg havde alarmeret,

they were on standby,

på standby,

and just as the concoction was ready,

og lige som bryggen var klar,

and they were about to give it to the kids,

og de skulle til at give det til børnene,

I phoned the police,

ringede jeg til politiet,

and fortunately they came and busted them.

og heldigvis kom de og anholdte dem.

As I speak now, they are before the courts.

Mens jeg taler nu, er de for retten.

Don't forget the key principles:

Glem ikke de vigtigste principper:

naming, shaming and jailing.

benævne, skamme og sætte bag tremmer.

The court process is taking place,

Retshandlingen finder sted,

and I'm very sure at the end of the day

og jeg er meget sikker på at i sidste ende

we will find them, and we will put them

vil vi finde dem, og vi vil sætte dem

where they belong too.

hvor de hører til.

Another key story that comes to mind,

En anden vigtig historie jeg kan huske,

which relates to this spirit child phenomenon,

der er relateret til dette åndebarn fænomenet,

is "The Spell of the Albinos."

er "The Spell of the Albinos."

I'm sure most of you may have heard, in Tanzania,

Jeg er sikker på at mange af jer måske har hørt, i Tanzania,

children who are born with albinism

bliver børn der bliver født med albinoisme

are sometimes considered as being unfit

nogen gange set som værende uegnede

to live in society.

til at leve i samfundet.

Their bodies are chopped up with machetes

Deres kroppe bliver hakket i stykker med macheter,

and are supposed to be used for some concoctions

og skal bruges i en eller anden bryg

or some potions for people to get money --

eller nogle eliksirer som mennesker kan få penge for --

or so many, many stories people would tell about it.

eller så mange, mange historier som folk taler om.

It was time to go undercover again.

Det var på tide at gå undercover igen.

So I went undercover as a man who was interested

Jeg gik undercover som en mand der var interesseret

in this particular business, of course.

i denne bestemte business, selvfølgelig.

Again, a prosthetic arm was built.

Igen, blev der bygget en armprotese.

For the first time, I filmed on hidden camera

For første gang, filmede jeg de fyre der gjorde dette

the guys who do this, and they were ready to buy the arm

på skjult kamera, og de var klar til at købe armen

and they were ready to use it to prepare

og de var klar til at bruge den til at forberede

those potions for people.

disse eliksirer for mennesker.

I am glad today the Tanzanian government has taken action,

Jeg er glad for at den tanzanianske regering i dag har grebet ind,

but the key issue is that the Tanzanian government

men det vigtige her er at den tanzanianske regering

could only take action because the evidence was available.

kun kunne gribe ind fordi der var tilgængelige bevismaterialer.

My journalism is about hard core evidence.

Min journalisme handler om hårde beviser.

If I say you have stolen, I show you the evidence

Hvis jeg siger man har stjålet, viser jeg en beviserne

that you have stolen.

på at man har stjålet.

I show you how you stole it

Jeg viser hvordan man har stjålet det

and when, or what you used

og når, eller hvis man brugte

what you had stolen to do.

det man havde stjålet.

What is the essence of journalism if it doesn't benefit society?

Hvad er journalistikkens essens, hvis det ikke gavner samfundet?

My kind of journalism is a product

Min form for journalisme er et produkt

of my society.

af mit samfund.

I know that sometimes

Jeg ved at mennesker nogle gange

people have their own criticisms

har deres egen kritik

about undercover journalism.

om undercover journalisme.

(Video) Official: He brought out some money from his pockets

(Video) Embedsmand: Han tog nogle penge frem fra sine lommer

and put it on the table,

og lagde dem på bordet,

so that we should not be afraid.

så vi ikke skulle være bange.

He wants to bring the cocoa and send it to Cote d'Ivoire.

Han vil medbringe kakaoen og sende den til Elfenbenskysten.

So with my hidden intention, I kept quiet.

Med min skjulte intention, holdte jeg mund.

I didn't utter a word.

Jeg sagde ikke et ord.

But my colleagues didn't know.

Men mine kolleger vidste det ikke.

So after collecting the money,

Så efter at have indsamlet penge,

when he left, we were waiting for him to bring the goods.

da han gik, ventede vi på at han kom med varerne.

Immediately after he left, I told my colleagues that

Straks da han gik, fortalte jeg mine kolleger at

since I was the leader of the group,

siden jeg var gruppens leder,

I told my colleagues that if they come,

fortalte jeg mine kolleger at hvis de kom,

we will arrest them.

ville vi arresterede dem.

Second official: I don't even know the place called [unclear].

Anden embedsmand: Jeg kender ikke engang det sted der hedder [utydeligt].

I've never stepped there before.

Jeg har aldrig været der før.

So I'm surprised.

Så jeg er overrasket.

You see a hand counting money just in front of me.

Man kan se en hånd lige foran mig der tæller penge.

The next moment, you see the money in my hands,

Det næste øjeblik, ser man pengene i mine hænder,

counting, whereas I have not come into contact with anybody.

tæller, hvorimod jeg ikke er kommet i kontakt med nogen.

I have not done any business with anybody.

Jeg har ikke lavet forretninger med nogen.

Reporter: When Metro News contacted investigative reporter

Reporter: Da Metro News kontaktede den undersøgende reporter

Anas Aremeyaw Anas for his reaction,

Anas Aremeyaw Anas for at få hans reaktion,

he just smiled and gave this video extract

smilede han bare og gav dette video ekstrakt

he did not use in the documentary recently shown onscreen.

som han ikke brugte i dokumentaren der blev vist på skærmen for nylig.

The officer who earlier denied involvement

Embedsmanden der tidligere benægtede at medvirke

pecks a calculator to compute the amount of money

trykker på en lommeregner for at udregne beløbet

they will charge on the cocoa to be smuggled.

som de vil pålægge kakaoen for at blive smuglet.

Anas Aremeyaw Anas: This was another story on anticorruption.

Anas Aremeyaw Anas: Dette var en anden historie om antikorruption.

And here was him, denying.

Og her var han, og benægtede.

But you see, when you have the hard core evidence,

Men ser I, når man har hårde beviser,

you are able to affect society.

er man i stand til at påvirke samfundet.

Sometimes these are some of the headlines that come. (Music)

Nogle gange er dette nogle af de overskrifter der kommer. (Musik)

[I will curse Anas to death]

[Jeg vil forbande Anas til døden]

[Anas Lies]

[Anas Lyver]

[Alarm Blows Over Anas' News for Cash Video]

{Alarm Blæser Over Anas's Nyheder På Grund Af Kontant Video]

[Agenda Against Top CEPS Officials Exposed]

[Dagsorden Mod Top CEPS Officials Afsløret]

[Anas Operates with Invisible Powers?]

[Anas Opererer med Usynlige Kræfter?]

[Gov't Wobbles Over Anas Video]

[Regering Vakler Over Anas Video]

[Hunting the Hunter]

[At Jage Jægeren]

[Anas 'Bribe' Men in Court]

[Anas "Bestikkelses" Mænd i Retten]

[15 Heads Roll Over Anas Tape]

[15 Hoveder Ruller På Grund Af Anas Bånd]

[Finance Minister Backs Anas]

[Finansminister Støtter Anas]

[11 Given Queries Over Anas' Story]

[11 Draget i Tvivl Over Anas's Historie]

[GJA Stands By Anas]

[GJA Står Ved Anas]

[Prez. Mills Storms Tema Harbour Over Anas Video]

[Præsident Mills Stormer Tema Havn efter Anas Video]

["Late Prof. John Evans Atta Mills: Former president of Ghana"]

["Afdød Professor John Evans Atta Mills: Tidligere præsident af Ghana"]

John Evans Atta Mills: What Anas says

John Evans Atta Mills: Det Anas siger

is not something which is unknown to many of us,

er ikke noget der er ukendt for mange af os,

but please, those of you who are agents,

men bemærk venligst, de af jer der er agenter,

and who are leading the customs officers into temptation,

og som leder toldagenterne ud i fristelsen,

I'm telling you, Ghana is not going to say

jeg vil fortælle jer, Ghana vil ikke sige

any good things to you about this.

nogen gode ting til jer om dette.

AAA: That was my president.

AAA: Det var min præsident.

I thought that I couldn't come here

Jeg troede at jeg ikke kunne komme her

without giving you something special.

uden at give jer noget specielt.

I have a piece, and I'm excited that

Jeg har et stykke, og jeg er begejstret over at

I'm sharing it for the first time with you here.

jeg deler det for første gang med jer her.

I have been undercover in the prisons.

Jeg har været undercover i fængsler.

I have been there for a long time.

Jeg har været der i lang tid.

And I can tell you, what I saw is not nice.

Og jeg kan fortælle jer, at det jeg så ikke var rart.

But again, I can only affect society

Men igen, jeg kan kun påvirke samfundet

and affect government if I bring out the hard core evidence.

og påvirke regeringen hvis jeg kommer med hårde beviser.

Many times, the prison authorities have denied

Mange gange, har fængselsmyndighederne benægtet

ever having issues of drug abuse,

nogensinde at have problemer med narkomisbrug,

issues of sodomy, so many issues they would deny

problemer med sodomi, mange problemer de ville benægte

that it ever happens.

der foregår.

How can you obtain the hard core evidence?

Hvordan kan man få fat i hårde beviser?

So I was in the prison. ["Nsawan Prison"]

Jeg var altså i fængsel. ["Nsawan Prison"]

Now, what you are seeing is a pile of dead bodies.

Det man ser er en bunke af døde kroppe.

Now, I happen to have followed one of my inmates,

Jeg fulgte efter en af mine indsatte,

one of my friends, from his sick bed till death,

en af mine venner, fra hans sygeseng til døden,

and I can tell you it was not a nice thing at all.

og jeg kan fortælle jer at det ikke var en rar ting overhovedet.

There were issues of bad food being served

Der var problemer med dårlig mad der blev serveret

as I recall that some of the food I ate

som jeg huske det var noget af det mad jeg spiste

is just not good for a human being.

bare ikke godt for et menneske.

Toilet facilities: very bad.

Toilet faciliteter: meget dårlige.

I mean, you had to queue to get proper toilets to attend --

Jeg mener, man skulle stå i kø for at kunne komme til et anstændigt toilet --

and that's what I call proper,

og det er hvad jeg kalder anstændigt,

when four of us are on a manhole.

når fire af os er på mandehulet.

It is something that if you narrate it to somebody,

Det er noget som hvis man fortæller det til nogen,

the person wouldn't believe it.

ville personen ikke tro på det.

The only way that you can let the person believe

Den eneste måde man kan få personen til at tro på det

is when you show hard core evidence.

er når man viser dem hårde beviser.

Of course, drugs were abundant.

Selvfølgelig var der en overflod af narko.

It was easier to get cannabis, heroin and cocaine,

Det var nemmere at få cannabis, heroin og kokain,

faster even, in the prison than outside the prison.

selv hurtigere, i fængslet end udenfor fængslet.

Evil in the society is an extreme disease.

Ondskab i samfundet et en ekstrem sygdom.

If you have extreme diseases,

Hvis man har ekstreme sygdomme,

you need to get extreme remedies.

skal man skaffe en ekstrem kur.

My kind of journalism might not fit in other continents

Min slags journalisme passer måske ikke ind i andre kontinenter

or other countries,

eller andre lande,

but I can tell you, it works in my part of the continent

men jeg kan fortælle jer, det fungerer i min del af kontinentet

of Africa, because usually, when people talk

Afrika, fordi som regel, når mennesker taler

about corruption, they ask, "Where is the evidence?

om korruption, de spørger, "Hvor er beviserne?

Show me the evidence."

Vis mig beviserne."

I say, "This is the evidence."

Jeg siger, "Dette er beviset."

And that has aided in me putting a lot of people behind bars.

Og det har hjulpet mig med at sætte mange mennesker bag tremmer.

You see, we on the continent are able

Ser I, vi på kontinentet er i stand til

to tell the story better because we face the conditions

at fortælle historier bedre, fordi vi står overfor omstændigheder

and we see the conditions.

og vi ser omstændighederne.

That is why I was particularly excited

Det er grunden til jeg var særlig begejstret

when we launched our "Africa Investigates" series

da vi lancerede vores "Africa Investigates" serier

where we investigated a lot of African countries.

hvor vi undersøgte mange afrikanske lande.

As a result of the success of the "Africa Investigates" series,

Som et resultat af succesen af "Africa Investigates" serien

we are moving on to World Investigates.

går vi videre til World Investigates.

By the end of it, a lot more bad guys

I slutningen af det, vil mange flere onde fyre

on our continent will be put behind bars.

på vores kontinent være sat bag tremmer.

This will not stop.

Dette stopper ikke.

I'm going to carry on with this kind of journalism,

Jeg vil fortsætte med denne form for journalisme,

because I know that when evil men destroy,

fordi jeg ved at når onde mænd ødelægger,

good men must build and bind.

må gode mænd bygge og binde.

Thank you very much.

Mange tak.

(Applause)

(Bifald)

Chris Anderson: Thank you. Thank you.

Chris Anderson: Tak. Tak.

I have some questions for you.

Jeg har nogle spørgsmål til dig.

How did you end up in jail? This was just a few weeks ago, I believe, yeah?

Hvordan endte du i fængsel? Dette var kun et par uger siden, mener jeg, ikke?

AAA: Sure. You know, undercover is all about

AAA. Ja. Du ved, undercover handler om

setting the priorities right, so we got people

at få styr på prioriteterne, så vi fik folk

to take me to court.

til at tage mig i retten.

So I went through the very legal process,

Jeg gennemgik den meget retslige proces,

because at the end of the day, the prison authorities

fordi i sidste ende, vil fængselsmyndighederne

want to check whether indeed you have been there or not,

vil kontrollere om man også har været der eller ej,

and that's how I got in there.

og det er sådan jeg kom der.

CA: So someone sued you in court,

CA: Så nogen sagsøgte dig i retten,

and they took you there, and you were in remand custody

og de tog de med der, og du blev varetægtsfængslet

for part of it, and you did that deliberately.

i noget tid, og det gjorde du med vilje.

AAA: Yes, yes.

AAA: Ja, ja.

CA: Talk to me just about fear

CA: Fortæl mig om frygten

and how you manage that,

og hvordan du klarer den,

because you're regularly putting your life at risk.

fordi du sætter regelmæssigt livet på spil.

How do you do that?

Hvordan gør du det?

AAA: You see, undercover is always a last resort.

AAA: Ser du, undercover er altid en sidste udvej.

Before we go undercover, we follow the rules.

Inden vi går undercover, følger vi reglerne.

And I'm only comfortable and I'm purged of fear

Og jeg er kun tryg og jeg er renset for frygt

whenever I am sure that all the steps

når jeg er sikker på at alle skridt

have been taken. I don't do it alone. I have a backup team

er taget. Jeg gør det ikke alene. Jeg har et backup team

who help ensure that the safety and all the systems

der hjælper med at sikre at sikkerheden og alle systemerne

are put in place, but you've got to take

er på plads, men man skal tage

very intelligent decisions whenever they are happening.

meget intelligente beslutninger når det sker.

If you don't, you will end up losing your life.

Hvis man ikke gør det, ender man med at miste livet.

So yes, when the backup systems are put in place,

Så ja, når backup systemerne er på plads,

I'm okay, I go in. Risky, yes,

jeg er okay, så gør jeg det. Hasarderet, ja,

but it's a hazard of a profession.

men det er en risiko ved faget.

I mean, everybody has their hazard.

Jeg mener, alle har deres egne risici.

And once you say that is yours,

Og når man siger at det er ens,

you've got to take it, as and when it comes.

skal man tage den, som og når den kommer.

CA: Well, you're an amazing human and you've done amazing work

CA: Jamen, du er et utroligt mennesker og du har lavet fantastisk arbejde

and you've taught us a story

og du har lært os en historie

like no story I think any of us have heard before.

som ingen anden historie nogen af os har hørt før tror jeg.

And we're appreciative. We salute you. Thank you so much, Anas.

Og vi er taknemmelige. Vi hilser dig. Mange tak, Anas.

AAA: Thank you.

AAA: Tak.

CA: Thank you. Stay safe. (Applause)

CA: Tak. Hold dig sikker. (Bifald)