4 Lessons in Creativity | Julie Burstein | TED Talks

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Yunhi Maeng ๊ฒ€ํ† : Taeyong Kim
00:16
On my desk in my office, I keep a small clay pot
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์ œ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค ์ฑ…์ƒ ์œ„์—๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€ํ•™ ๋•Œ ๋งŒ๋“ 
00:20
that I made in college. It's raku, which is a kind of pottery
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋„๊ธฐ์ธ ์ด "๋ผ์ฟ "๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
00:25
that began in Japan centuries ago as a way of
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์ผ๋ณธ์‹ ๋‹ค๋„์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์šฉ๊ธฐ์˜ ํ•œ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ
00:29
making bowls for the Japanese tea ceremony.
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์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋…„์ „๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๋‹ค๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:33
This one is more than 400 years old.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋Š” 400๋…„๋„ ๋„˜์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:36
Each one was pinched or carved out of a ball of clay,
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๊ฐ๊ฐ์˜ ๋‹ค๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ ํ†  ๋ฉ์–ด๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์†์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆŒ๋Ÿฌ ๋นš์–ด์„œ ์šธํ‰๋ถˆํ‰ํ•œ ๋ชจ์–‘์ด์ฃ .
00:41
and it was the imperfections that people cherished.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด ๊ฒฐ์ ์„ ์†Œ์ค‘ํžˆ ์—ฌ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:45
Everyday pots like this cup take eight to 10 hours to fire.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ณดํ†ต ์ปต ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ตฝ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด, 8 ๋‚ด์ง€ 10์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๊ฑธ๋ ค ๋ถˆ์„ ์ง€ํ•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:53
I just took this out of the kiln last week, and the kiln itself
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ์— ๊ฐ€๋งˆ์—์„œ ๊บผ๋‚ธ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ์š”,
00:56
takes another day or two to cool down, but raku
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๊ฐ€๋งˆ๋ฅผ ์‹ํžˆ๋Š”๋ฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฃจ, ์ดํ‹€์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:01
is really fast. You do it outside, and you take the kiln
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ตฝ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ์ž ์‹œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๋นš์€ ๋ผ์ฟ ๋ฅผ
01:06
up to temperature. In 15 minutes, it goes to 1,500 degrees,
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1,500๋„๋กœ ๋‹ฌ๊ตฌ์–ด์ง„ ๊ฐ€๋งˆ์—์„œ 15๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ตฌ์šฐ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:10
and as soon as you see that the glaze has melted inside,
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์œ ์•ฝ์ด ๋„์ž๊ธฐ์†์œผ๋กœ ์Šค๋ฉฐ๋“ค๋ฉด,
01:14
you can see that faint sheen, you turn the kiln off,
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ํฌ๋ฏธํ•œ ๊ด‘ํƒ์ด ํ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ณด์ด๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
01:17
and you reach in with these long metal tongs,
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ๊ฐ€๋งˆ์˜ ๋ถˆ์„ ๋„๊ณ , ๊ธด ์ง‘๊ฒŒ๋กœ ๊บผ๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:19
you grab the pot, and in Japan, this red-hot pot
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์ผ๋ณธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด ๋ฒŒ๊ฒ‹๊ฒŒ ๋‹จ ๋„์ž๊ธฐ๋ฅผ
01:24
would be immediately immersed in a solution of green tea,
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์ฆ‰์‹œ ๋…น์ฐจ๋ฌผ์— ๋‹ด๊ธˆ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:29
and you can imagine what that steam would smell like.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์ฆ๊ธฐ์˜ ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๋Š” ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:32
But here in the United States, we ramp up the drama
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ข€ ๋” ๋“œ๋ผ๋งˆํ‹ฑํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
01:35
a little bit, and we drop our pots into sawdust,
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๋ถˆ์—์„œ ๊บผ๋‚ธ ๋„์ž๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ†ฑ๋ฐฅ์— ๋–จ์–ด๋œจ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:39
which catches on fire, and you take a garbage pail,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋ถˆ์ด ๋ถ™๊ฒ ์ฃ . ๊ทธ ์œ„์— ์ฒ ๊นกํ†ต์„ ๋ฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:42
and you put it on top, and smoke starts pouring out.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์—ฐ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์Šค๋ฉฐ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:47
I would come home with my clothes reeking of woodsmoke.
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์ €๋Š” ์˜จํ†ต ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๋ฅผ ํ’๊ธฐ๋ฉฐ ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๊ณค ํ•˜์ฃ .
01:51
I love raku because it allows me to play with the elements.
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์žฌ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ ์ €๊ฒƒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ €๋Š” ๋ผ์ฟ ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:57
I can shape a pot out of clay and choose a glaze,
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ํ™ ๋ฉ์–ด๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ๋ชจ์–‘์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚ด๊ณ , ์œ ์•ฝ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:01
but then I have to let it go to the fire and the smoke,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ์—” ๋ถˆ์ด ๋ถ™์–ด ์—ฐ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋†”๋‘ฌ์•ผ ํ•˜์ฃ .
02:05
and what's wonderful is the surprises that happen,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๊ธˆ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด๋Šฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š”
02:08
like this crackle pattern, because it's really stressful
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๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์ด ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„์ž๊ธฐ์— ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€
02:11
on these pots. They go from 1,500 degrees
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๊ฐ€ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ . 1500๋„์—์„œ ์ƒ์˜จ์œผ๋กœ
02:14
to room temperature in the space of just a minute.
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1๋ถ„๋„ ์•ˆ๋˜์–ด ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:18
Raku is a wonderful metaphor for the process of creativity.
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๋ผ์ฟ ๋Š” ์ฐฝ์ž‘์˜ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์€์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
I find in so many things that tension between
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์ €๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋‘ฌ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค
02:28
what I can control and what I have to let go
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์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ธด์žฅ๊ฐ์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:31
happens all the time, whether I'm creating a new radio show
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ƒˆ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋‚˜,
02:35
or just at home negotiating with my teenage sons.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ง‘์—์„œ 10๋Œ€์˜ ์ œ ์•„๋“ค๊ณผ ํ˜‘์ƒ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ฃ .
02:40
When I sat down to write a book about creativity,
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์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฑ…์„ ์“ฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
02:44
I realized that the steps were reversed.
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์ˆœ์„œ๊ฐ€ ๊บผ๊พธ๋กœ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:46
I had to let go at the very beginning, and I had to
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์•„์ฃผ ์ฒ˜์Œ์—” ๊ทธ์ € ๋‚ด๋ฒ„๋ ค ๋‘ฌ์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€
02:50
immerse myself in the stories of hundreds of artists
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์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋ช…์˜ ๋ฏธ์ˆ ๊ฐ€, ์†Œ์„ค๊ฐ€, ์Œ์•…๊ฐ€, ์˜ํ™” ์ œ์ž‘์ž๋“ค์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์—
02:55
and writers and musicians and filmmakers, and as I listened
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์ œ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋น ์ ธ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด์„œ
02:59
to these stories, I realized that creativity
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์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ž์ฃผ,
03:04
grows out of everyday experiences
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๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋น„์šฐ๊ณ  ๋†”๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜์—ฌ,
03:08
more often than you might think, including
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์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
03:11
letting go.
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๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:14
It was supposed to break, but that's okay. (Laughter) (Laughs)
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๊นจ์ง€๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋†”๋‘์ฃ . (์›ƒ์Œ)
03:18
That's part of the letting go, is sometimes it happens
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋‘ฌ์•ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ฃ .
03:21
and sometimes it doesn't, because creativity also grows
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์–ด๋–ค ๋•Œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€, ํ˜น์€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ . ์ฐฝ์ž‘์€ ๋˜ํ•œ
03:24
from the broken places.
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์–ด๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง„ ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋„ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
03:27
The best way to learn about anything
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๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€
03:30
is through stories, and so I want to tell you a story
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์„ ๋ฐœํœ˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
03:34
about work and play and about four aspects of life
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํฌ์šฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ๋„ค๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฉด๊ณผ
03:39
that we need to embrace
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์ง์—…์ด๋‚˜ ํ™œ๋™์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
03:41
in order for our own creativity to flourish.
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋“ค๋ ค ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:46
The first embrace is something that we think,
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์ฒซ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋ณดํ†ต '์ด๊ฑด ์‰ฝ์ง€' ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”
03:48
"Oh, this is very easy," but it's actually getting harder,
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๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด์   ์ ์  ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
03:52
and that's paying attention to the world around us.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:56
So many artists speak about needing to be open,
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์—ด๋ฆฐ ํƒœ๋„๋‚˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•„์š”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ
04:00
to embrace experience, and that's hard to do when
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๋งŽ์€ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:04
you have a lighted rectangle in your pocket that
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ฃผ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์Šค๋งˆํŠธ ํฐ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š๋ผ
04:07
takes all of your focus.
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์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:11
The filmmaker Mira Nair speaks about growing up
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์˜ํ™” ๊ฐ๋… ๋ฏธ๋ผ ๋‚˜์ด์–ด๋Š” ์ธ๋„์˜ ์ž‘์€ ๋งˆ์„์—์„œ์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
04:15
in a small town in India. Its name is Bhubaneswar,
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋งˆ์„์€ ๋ถ€๋ฒ ๋‹ˆ์Šค์™€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
04:20
and here's a picture of one of the temples in her town.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ณ ํ–ฅ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์›์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:23
Mira Nair: In this little town, there were like 2,000 temples.
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๋ฏธ๋ผ ๋งˆ์ด์–ด: ์ด ์ž‘์€ ๋งˆ์„์—” 2,000๊ฐœ์˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ์›๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:26
We played cricket all the time. We kind of grew up
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์ผ“์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋†€์•˜์ฃ . ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด,
04:29
in the rubble. The major thing that inspired me,
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๋Œ ๋”๋ฏธ ์†์—์„œ ์ž๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:32
that led me on this path, that made me a filmmaker eventually,
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์˜ํ™”๊ณ„๋กœ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋“ค๋„๋ก ์˜๊ฐ์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€
04:36
was traveling folk theater that would come through the town
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๋งˆ์„์— ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ˆœํšŒ ๋ฏผ์† ๊ทน๋‹จ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:39
and I would go off and see these great battles
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ํ•™๊ต ์šด๋™์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ, ๋‘๋ช…์ด ์—ฐ๊ธฐํ•˜๋˜
04:43
of good and evil by two people in a school field
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์„ ๊ณผ ์•…์˜ ๋Œ€๊ฒฐ ์žฅ๋ฉด๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:46
with no props but with a lot of, you know,
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๋ณ„๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋„๊ตฌ๋„ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์—ด์ •์ด ๊ฐ€๋“์ฐฌ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ์˜€์ฃ .
04:49
passion, and hashish as well, and it was amazing.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋Œ€๋งˆ์ดˆ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•˜์—ฌํŠผ ๊ต‰์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:52
You know, the folk tales of Mahabharata and Ramayana,
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๋งˆํ•˜๋ฐ”๋ผํƒ€์™€ ๋ผ๋งˆ์•ผ๋‚˜ ๊ฒฝ์ „์˜ ๋ฏผ์† ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š”
04:55
the two holy books, the epics that everything comes out of
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์ธ๋„์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ธฐ์›์„ ๋‘๊ณ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„œ์‚ฌ์‹œ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:59
in India, they say. After seeing that Jatra, the folk theater,
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์ˆœํšŒ ๋ฏผ์† ๊ทน๋‹จ์˜ ๊ทธ ์žํŠธ๋ผ(๋ฑ…๊ฐˆ ์ง€๋ฐฉ์˜ ์ „ํ†ต ๋ฏผ์†๊ทน)๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ 
05:02
I knew I wanted to get on, you know, and perform.
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๋‚˜๋„ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:07
Julie Burstein: Isn't that a wonderful story?
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์ฅด๋ฆฌ ๋ฒ„์Šคํ‹ด: ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ฃ ?
05:09
You can see the sort of break in the everyday.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ผ์ƒ์˜ ์ผํƒˆ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
There they are in the school fields, but it's good and evil,
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ํ•™๊ต ์šด๋™์žฅ์—์„œ, ์„ ๊ณผ ์•…์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์—ฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:14
and passion and hashish. And Mira Nair was a young girl
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์—ด์ •๊ณผ ๋Œ€๋งˆ์ดˆ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ . ๋ฏธ๋ผ ๋‚˜์ด์–ด๋Š” ์ด ๊ณต์—ฐ์„
05:20
with thousands of other people watching this performance,
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์ˆ˜์ณ”๋ช…์˜ ๊ด€๊ฐ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ณด์•˜๋˜ ํ•œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์†Œ๋…€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:23
but she was ready. She was ready to open up
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์—ด ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:26
to what it sparked in her, and it led her,
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๊ทธ ๊ณต์—ฐ์ด ์ผ์œผํ‚จ ๊ทธ๋…€ ์•ˆ์˜ ๋ถˆ๊ฝƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์˜€๊ณ ,
05:30
as she said, down this path to become
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ
05:32
an award-winning filmmaker.
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์˜ํ™” ๊ฐ๋…์˜ ๊ธธ๋กœ ์ด๋Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:35
So being open for that experience that might change you
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์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ” ๋†“์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ์—ด๋ ค ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
05:38
is the first thing we need to embrace.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•  ์ฒซ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
Artists also speak about how some of their most powerful work
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ๋˜ํ•œ, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜ํ–ฅ๋ ฅ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘ํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
05:46
comes out of the parts of life that are most difficult.
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์ธ์ƒ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํž˜๋“  ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:51
The novelist Richard Ford speaks about
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์†Œ์„ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ํฌ๋“œ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
05:55
a childhood challenge that continues to be something
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์–ด๋ฆด ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ฒช์–ด์˜จ ์‹œ๋ จ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:59
he wrestles with today. He's severely dyslexic.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์‹ฌํ•œ ๋‚œ๋…์ฆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:04
Richard Ford: I was slow to learn to read, went all the way
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๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ํฌ๋“œ: ์ €๋Š” ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋˜ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ์˜ ์ฝ๊ธฐ ์™ธ์—๋Š”
06:07
through school not really reading more than the minimum,
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์ฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ์•„์ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:11
and still to this day can't read silently
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์•„์ง๊นŒ์ง€๋„, ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋‚ด์–ด ์ฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ด์ƒ์˜
06:13
much faster than I can read aloud,
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์†๋„๋กœ๋Š” ์ฝ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:16
but there were a lot of benefits to being dyslexic for me
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ๋‚œ๋…์ฆ์€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์žฅ์ ๋„ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:20
because when I finally did reconcile myself to how slow
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๋Š๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฝ์„ ์ˆ˜ ๋ฐ–์— ์—†์Œ์„ ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์ด
06:23
I was going to have to do it, then I think I came very slowly
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๋งˆ์นจ๋‚ด ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์˜€์„ ๋•Œ, ๋ฌธ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ
06:27
into an appreciation of all of those qualities of language
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์–ธ์–ด์˜ ์ธ์ง€์  ์ธก๋ฉด์™ธ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ณธ์งˆ๋“ค์„
06:31
and of sentences that are not just the cognitive
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์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:34
aspects of language: the syncopations, the sounds of words,
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๋ฌธ์žฅ์˜ ์ถ•์•ฝ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹จ์–ด์˜ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋“ค,
06:37
what words look like, where paragraphs break,
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๋‹จ์–ด๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ , ๋ฌธ๋‹จ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฌธ์žฅ์ด ์–ด๋””์„œ ๋Š์–ด์ง€๋Š”์ง€.
06:39
where lines break. I mean, I wasn't so badly dyslexic that
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์ œ ๋‚œ๋…์ฆ์ด ์ฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ „ํ˜€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ์ •๋„๋กœ
06:42
I was disabled from reading. I just had to do it
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๋‚˜์˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์ €
06:45
really slowly, and as I did, lingering on those sentences
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์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋Š๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ์ฝ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์ฃ . ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์žฅ์„ ์˜ค๋ž˜
06:49
as I had to linger, I fell heir to language's other qualities,
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๋ถ™๋“ค๊ณ  ๋Š˜์–ด์ง€๋ฉด์„œ, ์–ธ์–ด์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŠน์„ฑ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋๊ณ ,
06:53
which I think has helped me write sentences.
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๊ทธ ๋•๋ถ„์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ธ€์„ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:57
JB: It's so powerful. Richard Ford, who's won the Pulitzer Prize,
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JB: ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•˜๊ตฐ์š”. ํ“ฐ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์€ ๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ํฌ๋“œ๋Š”
07:01
says that dyslexia helped him write sentences.
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๋‚œ๋…์ฆ ๋•๋ถ„์— ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:06
He had to embrace this challenge, and I use that word
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋„์ „์„ ํฌ์šฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํฌ์šฉ์ด๋ž€ ๋ง์„ ์“ด ์ด์œ ๋Š”,
07:09
intentionally. He didn't have to overcome dyslexia.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚œ๋…์ฆ์„ ๊ทธ์ € ๊ทน๋ณตํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ ,
07:13
He had to learn from it. He had to learn to hear the music
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ ์ž ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์–ด ์†์—์„œ
07:16
in language.
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์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:19
Artists also speak about how pushing up against
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์˜ ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์—
07:24
the limits of what they can do, sometimes pushing
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๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋„์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ ,
07:27
into what they can't do, helps them focus
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๋„๋ก ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š”
07:31
on finding their own voice.
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ์š”.
07:34
The sculptor Richard Serra talks about how,
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์กฐ๊ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ์„ธ๋ผ๋Š” ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ณ 
07:38
as a young artist, he thought he was a painter,
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ํ”Œ๋กœ๋žœ์Šค์— ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ์ž์‹ ์ด ํ™”๊ฐ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜
07:41
and he lived in Florence after graduate school.
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์ Š์€ ์‹œ์ ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:45
While he was there, he traveled to Madrid,
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งˆ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:48
where he went to the Prado to see this picture
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋””์—๊ณ  ๋ฐœ๋ผ์Šค์ผ€์Šค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฐ
07:51
by the Spanish painter Diego Velรกzquez.
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์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ํ”„๋ผ๋„ ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:54
It's from 1656, and it's called "Las Meninas,"
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'Las Meninas"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋Š” 1656๋…„ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์ธ๋ฐ์š”,
07:59
and it's the picture of a little princess
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ๊ณต์ฃผ์™€ ๊ณต์ฃผ์˜ ์‹œ๋…€๋“ค์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฐ
08:02
and her ladies-in-waiting, and if you look over
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๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต์ฃผ์˜ ๊ธˆ๋ฐœ์ด ๋Š˜์–ด์ง„
08:05
that little blonde princess's shoulder, you'll see a mirror,
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์–ด๊นจ ๋„ˆ๋จธ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์šธ ์†์—๋Š” ๊ณต์ฃผ์˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ์ธ
08:09
and reflected in it are her parents, the King and Queen
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์˜ ์™•๊ณผ ์™•๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋น„์ถฐ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:12
of Spain, who would be standing where you might stand
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๋ณผ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ณณ์—
08:15
to look at the picture.
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์„œ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:17
As he often did, Velรกzquez put himself in this painting too.
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๋ฒจ๋ผ์Šค์ผ€์Šค๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์†์— ์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ทธ๋ ค ๋„ฃ๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์—๋„ ๋“ฑ์žฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:22
He's standing on the left with his paintbrush in one hand
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ํ•œ ์†์—๋Š” ๋ถ“์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•œ ์†์—๋Š” ํŒ”๋ ˆํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๊ณ 
08:27
and his palette in the other.
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์™ผ์ชฝ์— ์„œ์žˆ์ฃ .
08:29
Richard Serra: I was standing there looking at it,
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๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ์„ธ๋ผ: ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉฐ ์„œ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€
08:31
and I realized that Velรกzquez was looking at me,
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๋ฒจ๋ผ์Šค์ผ€์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ ์ณ๋‹ค ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:34
and I thought, "Oh. I'm the subject of the painting."
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"์•„! ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์˜ ์ฃผ์ œ์˜€๊ตฌ๋‚˜." ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
08:38
And I thought, "I'm not going to be able to do that painting."
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ์ €๋Ÿฐ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ฒ ๊ตฌ๋‚˜" ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:40
I was to the point where I was using a stopwatch
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๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ˆ์— ์ €๋Š”, ์Šคํ†ฑ์›Œ์น˜๋ฅผ ๋“ค๊ณ ,
08:43
and painting squares out of randomness,
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๋งˆ๊ตฌ์žก์ด๋กœ ์‚ฌ๊ฐํ˜•๋“ค์„ ๊ทธ๋ ค๋Œ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:48
and I wasn't getting anywhere. So I went back and dumped
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์ €๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋Œ์•„์™€์„œ ์•„๋ฅด๋…ธ์— ์žˆ๋˜
08:50
all my paintings in the Arno, and I thought, I'm going to just start playing around.
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์ œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ์—†์• ๋ฒ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ด๊ฒƒ ์ €๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ด๋ณด๊ธฐ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
08:53
JB: Richard Serra says that so nonchalantly, you might
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JB: ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ„์…จ์„ ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ์„ธ๋ผ๋Š”
08:56
have missed it. He went and saw this painting by a guy
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์•„์ฃผ ํƒœ์—ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 300๋…„์ „์— ์ฃฝ์€ ํ™”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฐ
09:00
who'd been dead for 300 years, and realized,
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๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  "์•„, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒ ๊ตฌ๋‚˜" ๋ผ๊ณ  ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ณ 
09:03
"I can't do that," and so Richard Serra went back
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ํ”Œ๋Ÿฌ๋ Œ์Šค์˜ ํ™”์‹ค๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ทธ๋•Œ ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋ ธ๋˜
09:07
to his studio in Florence, picked up all of his work
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž‘ํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ•์†์— ๋˜์ ธ ๋ฒ„๋ ธ๋‹ค๋Š”
09:10
up to that point, and threw it in a river.
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:14
Richard Serra let go of painting at that moment,
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๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ์„ธ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋†“์•„๋ฒ„๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:18
but he didn't let go of art. He moved to New York City,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง„ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‰ด์š•์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ธด ๊ทธ๋Š”
09:21
and he put together a list of verbs
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'๋ง๋‹ค, ๊ตฌ๊ธฐ๋‹ค, ์ ‘๋‹ค' ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฑ๊ฐœ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๋‹จ์–ด๋“ค์„
09:24
โ€” to roll, to crease, to fold โ€”
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์„œ๋กœ ์กฐํ•ฉํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–˜๊ธฐํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด
09:28
more than a hundred of them, and as he said,
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ €๋ ‡๊ฒŒ
09:30
he just started playing around. He did these things
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์‹คํ—˜ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์žฌ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
09:32
to all kinds of material. He would take a huge sheet of lead
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ํ•ด๋ณด์•˜์ฃ . ์•„์ฃผ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‚ฉ ํŒ์„ ๋ง์•˜๋‹ค ํˆ๋‹ค ํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ 
09:36
and roll it up and unroll it. He would do the same thing
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๊ณ ๋ฌด์—๋‹ค๊ฐ€๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด๋ณด์•˜์ฃ .
09:39
to rubber, and when he got to the direction "to lift,"
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'๋“ค์–ด ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋‹ค' ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ด๋Š”, ํ˜„๋Œ€ ๋ฏธ์ˆ ๊ด€์ด ์†Œ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”,
09:45
he created this, which is in the Museum of Modern Art.
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ํ•œ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. .
09:50
Richard Serra had to let go of painting
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๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ์„ธ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฆผ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚˜ ๋ณด๋‚ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:53
in order to embark on this playful exploration
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š”
09:56
that led him to the work that he's known for today:
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ํƒํ—˜์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธˆ์† ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„
09:59
huge curves of steel that require our time and motion
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๊ฐ์ƒํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด, ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๊ณผ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๋“ค์—ฌ ๊ฑธ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ฃ .
10:05
to experience. In sculpture,
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๋ฆฌ์ฐจ๋“œ ์„ธ๋ผ๋Š”
10:09
Richard Serra is able to do what he couldn't do in painting.
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๊ทธ๋ฆผ์œผ๋กœ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กฐ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:12
He makes us the subject of his art.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์˜ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:16
So experience and challenge
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ฒฝํ—˜, ๋„์ „, ํ•œ๊ณ„๋Š”
10:20
and limitations are all things we need to embrace
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์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์„ ๋ฐœํœ˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์•ผ ํ• 
10:24
for creativity to flourish.
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๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:27
There's a fourth embrace, and it's the hardest.
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์ด์ œ ๋„ค๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:30
It's the embrace of loss,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ '์ƒ์‹ค'์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:33
the oldest and most constant of human experiences.
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์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜ค๋ž˜๊ณ ๋„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋นˆ๋ฒˆํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด์ฃ .
10:37
In order to create, we have to stand in that space
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์ฐฝ์ž‘์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„  ๊ฑฐ์ ˆ, ์•„ํ””, ์ „์Ÿ, ์ฃฝ์Œ์„ ์ •์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ
10:40
between what we see in the world and what we hope for,
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๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ, ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
10:43
looking squarely at rejection, at heartbreak,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„ธ์ƒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„
10:48
at war, at death.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฑ„์›Œ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:51
That's a tough space to stand in.
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์‰ฌ์šด ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ .
10:53
The educator Parker Palmer calls it "the tragic gap,"
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๊ต์œก์ž ํŒŒ์ปค ํŒŒ๋จธ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ '๋น„๊ทน์  ๊ฐญ' ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:59
tragic not because it's sad but because it's inevitable,
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์Šฌํผ์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€ํ”ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋น„๊ทน์ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:03
and my friend Dick Nodel likes to say,
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์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋”• ๋…ธ๋ธ์€ ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:06
"You can hold that tension like a violin string
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"๋ฐ”์ด์–ผ๋ฆฐ ์ค„ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํŒฝํŒฝํ•œ ๊ธด์žฅ๊ฐ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ
11:09
and make something beautiful."
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ํƒ„์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค."
11:12
That tension resonates in the work of the photographer
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ธด์žฅ๊ฐ์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ž‘๊ฐ€ ์ฃ ์—˜ ๋งˆ์ด์–ด๋ฆฌ์ธ ์˜ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์—
11:15
Joel Meyerowitz, who at the beginning of his career was
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์ž˜ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:18
known for his street photography, for capturing a moment
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๊ทธ์˜ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ๋“ค์€ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ํฌ์ฐฉํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต๊ณผ
11:22
on the street, and also for his beautiful photographs
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ํˆฌ์Šค์นด๋‹ˆ, ์ผ€์ดํ”„ ์ฝ”๋“œ์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ณ 
11:25
of landscapes -- of Tuscany, of Cape Cod,
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๋ฐ์€ ํ’๊ฒฝ์„ ๋‹ด์•„๋‚ด๊ณ 
11:29
of light.
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์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:32
Joel is a New Yorker, and his studio for many years
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์ฃ ์—˜์€ ๋ฌด์—ญ ์„ผํ„ฐ๊นŒ์ง€์˜ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ํ›คํžˆ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋‹ค ๋ณด์ด๋Š”
11:35
was in Chelsea, with a straight view downtown
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์ฒผ์‹œ์— ๊ทธ์˜ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜
11:39
to the World Trade Center, and he photographed
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๋‰ด์š”์ปค์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น›์˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ๋„๋กœ ์ด ๊ฑด๋ฌผ๋“ค์˜
11:42
those buildings in every sort of light.
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์„ ๋‹ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:46
You know where this story goes.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐˆ์ง€ ์ž˜ ์•„์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
On 9/11, Joel wasn't in New York. He was out of town,
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์กฐ์—˜์€ 9/11 ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๋•Œ ๋‰ด์š•์— ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
11:52
but he raced back to the city, and raced down to the site
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๊ธ‰ํžˆ ๋‰ด์š•์‹œ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™€ ์ดˆํ† ํ™”๋œ ํ˜„์žฅ์œผ๋กœ
11:57
of the destruction.
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๋‹ฌ๋ ค ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:59
Joel Meyerowitz: And like all the other passersby,
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์กฐ์—˜ ๋งˆ์ด์–ด๋ฆฌ์ธ : ์ €๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ตฌ๊ฒฝ๊พผ๋“ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
12:01
I stood outside the chain link fence on Chambers
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์ฑ”๋ฒ„๊ฐ€์™€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋‹ˆ์ง€๊ฐ€์˜ ์ฒ ์กฐ๋ง ๋’ค์— ์„œ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
12:04
and Greenwich, and all I could see was the smoke
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ์™€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ž”ํ•ด ๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:06
and a little bit of rubble, and I raised my camera
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ณด๋ ค๊ณ  ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋Œ€๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„
12:10
to take a peek, just to see if there was something to see,
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์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๊ด€ ํ•œ ๋ถ„์ด ์ œ ์–ด๊นจ๋ฅผ ์น˜๋ฉด์„œ
12:13
and some cop, a lady cop, hit me on my shoulder,
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"์‚ฌ์ง„์€ ์•ˆ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค" ๋ผ๊ณ 
12:17
and said, "Hey, no pictures!"
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ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:20
And it was such a blow that it woke me up,
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๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๊ด€์˜ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ–‰๋™์€
12:23
in the way that it was meant to be, I guess.
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๋‹จ๋ฒˆ์— ์ €๋ฅผ ์ผ๊นจ์›Œ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:27
And when I asked her why no pictures, she said,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์™œ ์•ˆ๋˜๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:29
"It's a crime scene. No photographs allowed."
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"๋ฒ”์ฃ„ ํ˜„์žฅ์€ ์ดฌ์˜ ๊ธˆ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค' ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋‹ต์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:32
And I asked her, "What would happen if I was a member
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"์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ธฐ์ž๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:34
of the press?" And she told me,
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"์ €๊ธฐ ๋’ค๋ฅผ ์ข€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”" ๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๊ด€์€ ๋‹ตํ–ˆ๊ณ 
12:36
"Oh, look back there," and back a block was the press corps
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์šธํƒ€๋ฆฌ ์•ˆ์—์„œ
12:40
tied up in a little penned-in area,
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์ดฌ์˜์ค‘์ธ ๊ธฐ์ž๋‹จ์ด ๋ณด์˜€์ฃ .
12:44
and I said, "Well, when do they go in?"
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"๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๊ธฐ์ž๋“ค์€ ์–ธ์ œ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?"
12:45
and she said, "Probably never."
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"์•„๋งˆ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์•ˆ๋ ๊ฑธ์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:48
And as I walked away from that, I had this crystallization,
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ฉฐ, ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ชจ์š•์ด๋‚˜
12:52
probably from the blow, because it was an insult in a way.
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๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:55
I thought, "Oh, if there's no pictures,
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"๋งŒ์•ฝ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ธฐ๋ก๋„ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ.
12:57
then there'll be no record. We need a record."
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๊ผญ ๊ธฐ๋ก์„ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์•ผ ํ•ด." ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:01
And I thought, "I'm gonna make that record.
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"๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•ด์•ผ ๋ผ. ์ด ์—ญ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๋ฉด ์•ˆ๋ผ.
13:03
I'll find a way to get in, because I don't want to
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๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ผญ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ๋ผ, ์—ญ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๋Š”๊ฑด ์•ˆ๋˜์ง€."
13:05
see this history disappear."
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๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
13:07
JB: He did. He pulled in every favor he could,
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JB: ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ํž˜์„ ๋‹คํ•ด
13:11
and got a pass into the World Trade Center site,
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๋ฌด์—ญ์„ผํƒ€ ํ˜„์žฅ์„ ์ถœ์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:13
where he photographed for nine months almost every day.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” 9๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋งค์ผ ์ดฌ์˜์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:18
Looking at these photographs today brings back
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐค์— ํ‡ด๊ทผํ•ด
13:21
the smell of smoke that lingered on my clothes
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์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ์˜ค๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฌปํ˜€์™”๋˜ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๋ฅผ
13:24
when I went home to my family at night.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:26
My office was just a few blocks away.
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์ œ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋ธ”๋Ÿญ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
13:29
But some of these photographs are beautiful,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต์ฃ .
13:33
and we wondered, was it difficult for Joel Meyerowitz
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฃ ์—˜์ด ์ฐธ์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์„
13:36
to make such beauty out of such devastation?
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๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚ด๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํž˜๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„๊นŒ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ด ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:40
JM: Well, you know, ugly, I mean, powerful
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JM: ์ถ”ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ , ๋น„๊ทน์ ์ด๋ฉฐ,
13:43
and tragic and horrific and everything, but
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๊ณตํฌ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
13:47
it was also as, in nature, an enormous event
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ž”ํ•ด๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋œ
13:51
that was transformed after the fact into this residue,
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ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:56
and like many other ruins
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์ฝœ๋กฏ์„ธ์›€์ด๋‚˜ ์„ฑ๋‹น ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์˜ ์ž”ํ•ด๊ฐ™์€
13:58
โ€” you go to the ruins of the Colosseum or the ruins of a cathedral someplace โ€”
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž”ํ•ด๋“ค ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
14:02
and they take on a new meaning when you watch the weather.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋“ค์€ ์ฃผ์œ„์˜ ๋‚ ์”จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–์ฃ .
14:07
I mean, there were afternoons I was down there,
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์•ˆ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์ง™๊ฒŒ ๊น”๋ฆฐ ๋ถ„ํ™ ๋น›์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌผ๋“  ์ €๋… ํ•˜๋Š˜ ์•„๋ž˜
14:08
and the light goes pink and there's a mist in the air
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๊ทธ ์ž”ํ•ด ๋”๋ฏธ ์†์— ์„œ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
14:12
and you're standing in the rubble, and I found myself
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์ €๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ ๊ณ ์œ ์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์„ ๋Š๋‚Œ๊ณผ ๋™์‹œ์—
14:16
recognizing both the inherent beauty of nature
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๊ทธ ์ž์—ฐ์ด, ์‹œ๊ฐ„๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ์ด ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ
14:20
and the fact that nature, as time,
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์น˜์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ
14:23
is erasing this wound.
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๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:26
Time is unstoppable, and it transforms the event.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋ณ€ํ™”์‹œํ‚ค์ฃ .
14:30
It gets further and further away from the day,
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์„ธ์›”์ด ์ ์  ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ
14:32
and light and seasons temper it in some way,
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๋น›๊ณผ ๊ณ„์ ˆ์€ ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์–ด ๋†“์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:37
and it's not that I'm a romantic. I'm really a realist.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋กœ๋ฉ˜ํ‹ฑํ•ด์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ํ˜„์‹ค์ฃผ์˜์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:41
The reality is, there's the Woolworth Building
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ํ˜„์‹ค์€ ์ด๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ํ˜„์žฅ์—์„œ์˜ ํ”ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ธฐ์˜ ์žฅ๋ง‰ ์†์—
14:44
in a veil of smoke from the site, but it's now like a scrim
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์šธ์›Œ์Šค ๋นŒ๋”ฉ์ด ์„œ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด์ œ
14:50
across a theater, and it's turning pink,
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๋ฌด๋Œ€์˜ ์ปคํŠผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•‘ํฌ์ƒ‰์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
14:54
you know, and down below there are hoses spraying,
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์•„๋ž˜์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํ˜ธ์Šค์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ณด๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ,
14:57
and the lights have come on for the evening, and the water
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์ €๋…์ด ๋˜์–ด ๋ถˆ์ด ๋ฐํ˜€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๋ฌผ๋ณด๋ผ๋Š”,
15:00
is turning acid green because the sodium lamps are on,
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๋‚˜ํŠธ๋ฅจ๋“ฑ์˜ ๋ถˆ๋น›์„ ๋ฐ›์•„ ํ˜•๊ด‘์ƒ‰์œผ๋กœ ๋น›๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:04
and I'm thinking, "My God, who could dream this up?"
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"์‹ ์ด์—ฌ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑธ ๊ฟˆ์—๋ผ๋„ ๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ฃ .
15:06
But the fact is, I'm there, it looks like that,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:11
you have to take a picture.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์œผ๋กœ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:12
JB: You have to take a picture. That sense of urgency,
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JB: '์‚ฌ์ง„์œผ๋กœ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค.' ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ธด๋ฐ•๊ฐ์ด
15:16
of the need to get to work, is so powerful in Joel's story.
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์ฃ ์—˜์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์†์—์„œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฟœ์–ด๋‚˜์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:21
When I saw Joel Meyerowitz recently, I told him how much
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์–ผ๋งˆ ์ „์— ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ,
15:25
I admired his passionate obstinacy, his determination
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์ €๋Š” ๊ด€๋ฃŒ์ฃผ์˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ด€ํ–‰์„ ๋šซ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜
15:29
to push through all the bureaucratic red tape to get to work,
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๊ทธ์˜ ์—ด์ •, ๋ˆ๊ธฐ, ๊ฒฐ๋‹จ์‹ฌ์„ ์นญ์†กํ•ด ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:33
and he laughed, and he said, "I'm stubborn,
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๊ทธ๋Š” "๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ์ง‘๋ถˆํ†ต์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ. ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
15:35
but I think what's more important
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์ €์˜ ์—ด์ •์ ์ธ ๋‚™์ฒœ์„ฑ์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค "
15:38
is my passionate optimism."
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๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์›ƒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:41
The first time I told these stories, a man in the audience
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์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜์Œ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ณณ์—์„œ, ๊ด€์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ถ„์ด ์†์„ ๋“ค๋”๋‹ˆ
15:44
raised his hand and said, "All these artists talk about
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”. "์ด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
15:48
their work, not their art, which has got me thinking about
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์ž‘์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋งํ•˜๋„ค์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋„ ์ œ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ,
15:52
my work and where the creativity is there,
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ง€์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์ด ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ์„์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„์š”.
15:55
and I'm not an artist." He's right. We all wrestle
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์ €๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ธ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”." ๊ทธ๋ถ„์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:00
with experience and challenge, limits and loss.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜, ๋„์ „, ํ•œ๊ณ„, ์ƒ์‹ค๊ณผ ์”จ๋ฆ„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:04
Creativity is essential to all of us,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ณผํ•™์ž, ๊ต์‚ฌ,
16:06
whether we're scientists or teachers,
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๋ถ€๋ชจ, ํ˜น์€ ์‚ฌ์—…๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฑด๊ฐ„์—
16:09
parents or entrepreneurs.
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์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:13
I want to leave you with another
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์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‹ค๊ธฐ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋”
16:16
image of a Japanese tea bowl. This one
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๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
16:19
is at the Freer Gallery in Washington, D.C.
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์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด D.C.์˜ ํ”„๋ฆฌ์–ด ๊ฐค๋Ÿฌ๋ฆฌ์— ์ „์‹œ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:22
It's more than a hundred years old and you can still see
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100๋…„๋„ ๋„˜์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ๋„ ๋‹ค๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋นš์„ ๋•Œ ๋‚œ
16:24
the fingermarks where the potter pinched it.
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๋„๊ธฐ๊ณต์˜ ์†์ž๊ตญ์ด ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:28
But as you can also see, this one did break
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ 100๋…„์„ ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€
16:31
at some point in its hundred years.
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๊นจ์กŒ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:33
But the person who put it back together,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ถ™์˜€๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
16:36
instead of hiding the cracks,
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๊นจ์ง„ ์ž๊ตญ์„ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”
16:39
decided to emphasize them, using gold lacquer to repair it.
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๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์— ๊ธˆ์ƒ‰ ์œ ์•ฝ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:45
This bowl is more beautiful now, having been broken,
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์ด ๋‹ค๊ธฐ๋Š”, ๊นจ์กŒ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ณด๋‹ค
16:49
than it was when it was first made,
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋” ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:52
and we can look at those cracks, because
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๊ทธ ๋„์ž๊ธฐ์˜ ๊นจ์ง„ ๊ธˆ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ,
16:54
they tell the story that we all live,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ ค์ฃผ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:57
of the cycle of creation and destruction,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ฐฝ์กฐ์™€ ํŒŒ๊ดด,
17:00
of control and letting go, of picking up the pieces
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ํ†ต์ œ์™€ ํฌ๊ธฐ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ถ€์„œ์ง„ ์กฐ๊ฐ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
17:05
and making something new.
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
17:07
Thank you. (Applause)
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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