Inge Missmahl brings peace to the minds of Afghanistan

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Hanna Son ๊ฒ€ํ† : Seo Rim Kim
00:16
So I want to tell you a story -- an encouraging story --
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ์šฉ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ถ๋‹์•„ ์ค„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:19
about addressing
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์‹œ์ž‘ํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”.
00:21
desperation, depression and despair in Afghanistan,
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ํ•„์‚ฌ์ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์šฐ์šธํ•˜๊ณ  ์ ˆ๋ง์ ์ธ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„,
00:24
and what we have learned from it,
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๊ทธ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ๊ณ 
00:26
and how to help people
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
00:28
to overcome traumatic experiences
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์™ธ์ƒ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๊ทน๋ณตํ•˜๋„๋ก ๋„์™”๋Š”์ง€,
00:32
and how to help them to regain some confidence
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์— ์•ž์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
00:35
in the time ahead -- in the future --
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํฌ๋ง์„ ๋˜์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€,
00:37
and how to participate again in everyday life.
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์ฐธ๊ฐ€์ž๋“ค์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ์š”.
00:41
So, I am a Jungian psychoanalyst,
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์ €๋Š” ์ •์‹ ๋ถ„์„ํ•™์ž์ด๋ฉฐ,
00:43
and I went to Afghanistan in January 2004, by chance,
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2004๋…„ 1์›” ๋ฉ”๋””์นด ๋ชฌ๋””์•Œ๋ ˆ ํ•™ํšŒ์˜ ์ž„๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•„
00:47
on an assignment for Medica Mondiale.
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์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:50
Jung in Afghanistan --
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์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์˜ ์œต-
00:52
you get the picture.
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์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:55
Afghanistan is one of the poorest countries in the world,
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์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๋ฉฐ,
00:58
and 70 percent of the people are illiterate.
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70%์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌธ๋งน์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:01
War and malnutrition kills people
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์ „์Ÿ๊ณผ ์˜์–‘์ƒํƒœ์˜ ๋ถˆ๊ท ํ˜•์ด
01:03
together with hope.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ํฌ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ฃฝ์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:05
You may know this from the media,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:07
but what you may not know
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜
01:09
is that the average age of the Afghan people is 17 years old,
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ํ‰๊ท ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ 17์‚ด์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์…จ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:12
which means they grow up in such an environment
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์ด๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์†์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ๋‚ฌ์œผ๋ฉฐ
01:15
and -- I repeat myself --
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30๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ
01:17
in 30 years of war.
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์ „์Ÿ์„ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด ์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
01:19
So this translates
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด ์—ฐ์„ค์€
01:21
into ongoing violence,
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์ด ๊ณณ์˜ ๋Š์ž„์—†๋Š” ํญ๋ ฅ,
01:23
foreign interests, bribery,
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ํƒ€๊ตญ์˜ ์ด์ต, ๋‡Œ๋ฌผ,
01:25
drugs, ethnic conflicts,
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์•ฝ, ๋ฏผ์กฑ๋ถ„์Ÿ,
01:28
bad health, shame, fear
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์ตœ์•…์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•, ์ˆ˜์น˜์‹ฌ, ๊ณตํฌ,
01:31
and cumulative traumatic experiences.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Š˜์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ์™ธ์ƒ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ ๋“ฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋“ค๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆด๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:34
Local and foreign military
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ํ˜„์ง€์™€, ์™ธ๊ตญ์˜ ๊ตฐ ๋‹น๊ตญ์€
01:36
are supposed to build peace together with the donors
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๊ธฐ๋ถ€์ž, ์ •๋ถ€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋น„ ์ •๋ถ€๊ธฐ๊ด€๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
01:39
and the governmental and non-governmental organizations.
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ํ‰ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋˜์ฐพ๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:42
And people had hope, yes,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํฌ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:44
but until they realized
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋งค์ผ
01:46
their situation worsens every day --
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๋” ๋‚˜๋น ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
01:48
either because they are being killed
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ฃฝ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
01:50
or because, somehow,
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์–ด๋–ป๋“  ๊ฐ„์—,
01:53
they are poorer than eight years ago.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด 8๋…„ ์ „ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•ด์กŒ๋‹จ๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ธฐ ์ „ ๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:56
One figure for that:
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜:
01:58
54 percent of the children under the age of five years
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54%์˜ 5์„ธ๋ฏธ๋งŒ ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด๋“ค์€
02:01
suffer from malnutrition.
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์˜์–‘๊ฒฐํ•์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:03
Yet, there is hope.
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์ผ ๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:06
One day a man told me,
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ํ•œ ๋ถ„์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:08
"My future does not look brilliant,
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"์ œ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋Š” ํฌ์•™์ด ์—†์–ด ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ,
02:10
but I want to have a brilliant future for my son."
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์ œ ์•„๋“ค์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋งŒํผ์€ ๋ฐ์•˜์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”."
02:14
This is a picture I took in 2005,
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์ด๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ 2005๋…„ ์–ด๋Š ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ
02:16
walking on Fridays over the hills in Kabul,
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์นด๋ถˆ์˜ ์–ธ๋•์—์„œ ์ฐ์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:19
and for me it's a symbolic picture
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์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ, ์•„์ด๋“ค ์„ธ๋Œ€์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋Š”
02:21
of an open future for a young generation.
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์—ด๋ ค์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ์ง•์  ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€์š”.
02:27
So, doctors prescribe medication.
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์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค์€ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:31
And donors
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋ถ€์ž๋“ค์€
02:33
are supposed to bring peace
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ํ‰ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋˜์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ
02:35
by building schools and roads.
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๋„๋กœ์™€ ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ์„ธ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:40
Military collect weapons,
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๊ตฐ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
02:42
and depression stays intact.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์šฐ์šธํ•จ์ด ๊ณ ์Šค๋ž€ํžˆ ๋ฌป์–ด์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:45
Why?
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์™œ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
02:47
Because people don't have tools
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด๊ธฐ์— ๋งž์จ
02:49
to cope with it, to get over it.
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๋Œ€ํ•ญํ• ๋งŒํ•œ ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ๋„๊ตฌ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:54
So, soon after my arrival,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋„์ฐฉํ•œ ํ›„, ์ €๋Š”
02:56
I had confirmed something which I had already known;
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์œ ๋Ÿฝ ์ตœ์‹ ์‹์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
02:59
that my instruments come from the heart of modern Europe, yes.
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์ œ ๋„๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:02
However, what can wound us
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€,
03:04
and our reaction to those wounds --
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์œ„ํ˜‘์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฐ˜์‘์€
03:06
they are universal.
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๋งค์šฐ ๋‹น์—ฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:08
And the big challenge
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์ž, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ณผ์—ฐ ์ด ํฐ ๋„์ „์ด
03:10
was how to understand the meaning of the symptom
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๋ณด์‹ ๋ฐ”์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ํŠน์ˆ˜ํ•œ ๋ฌธํ™”์  ๋งฅ๋ฝ ์†์—์„œ
03:13
in this specific cultural context.
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์–ด๋– ํ•œ ์˜๋ฏธ๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”.
03:16
After a counseling session, a woman said to me,
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์ƒ๋‹ด ํ›„, ํ•œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:19
"Because you have felt me, I can feel myself again,
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"๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋Š๊ผˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ๋‚˜ ์—ญ์‹œ๋„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ๊ธˆ ๋Œ์•„๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:22
and I want to participate again
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์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œํ•œ๋ฒˆ
03:24
in my family life."
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์ €ํฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ณผ ์‚ถ์„ ๊พธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
03:27
This was very important,
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'๊ฐ€์กฑ' ์ด๋ž€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ„
03:29
because the family is central
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์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
03:31
in Afghans' social system.
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๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:34
No one can survive alone.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ํ˜ผ์ž์„œ๋Š” ์‚ด์•„๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:37
And if people feel used, worthless and ashamed,
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์ผ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฅ์ณ์„œ
03:40
because something horrible has happened to them,
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ํ•˜์ฐฎ์Œ์ด๋‚˜ ์ˆ˜์น˜์‹ฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐ์ •์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
03:43
then they retreat, and they fall into social isolation,
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ›„ํ‡ดํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฝ์œผ๋กœ ๋–จ์–ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
03:46
and they do not dare to tell this evil
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์ด ์•…๋งˆ๊ฐ™์€ ๋…€์„์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€๋กœ
03:49
to other people or to their loved ones,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‚˜, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:52
because they do not want to burden them.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง์„ ๋– ๋งก๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง„ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
03:54
And very often violence is a way to cope with it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ข…์ข… ๋Œ€ํ•ญ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ํญ๋ ฅ์„ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:58
Traumatized people also easily lose control --
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์™ธ์ƒ์„ ์ž…์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ž์ œ๋ ฅ์„ ์ƒ์‹คํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.-
04:01
symptoms are hyper-arousal and memory flashbacks --
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์ „์กฐ์ฆ์ƒ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ณผ๋‹ค ๊ฐ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์–ต์˜ ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ๋ฐฑ ํ˜„์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.-
04:03
so people are in a constant fear
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ํ˜„์ง€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์™ธ์ƒ์„ ์ž…์—ˆ๋˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด
04:05
that those horrible feelings of that traumatic event
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๋ถˆ์‹œ์—, ์ด๋”ฐ๊ธˆ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋– ์˜ฌ๋ผ ๊ณตํฌ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›€๊ณผ
04:08
might come back unexpectedly,
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๊ณ ํ†ต์˜ ์—ฐ์†์—์„œ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
04:10
suddenly,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€
04:12
and they cannot control it.
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๋งˆ์Œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ œ์–ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:15
To compensate this loss of inner control,
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋‚ด๋ถ€์ ์ธ ์ž์ œ๋ ฅ์ƒ์‹ค์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋ณด์ƒ์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
04:18
they try to control the outside,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋˜ํ•œ
04:21
very understandably -- mostly the family --
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์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ต์ œํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:23
and unfortunately,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜, ๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„
04:25
this fits very well
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜
04:27
into the traditional side,
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๋ฌธํ™”์  ํ๋ฆ„์†์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด,
04:30
regressive side, repressive side,
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ํ‡ด๋ณด์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด, ์–ต์••์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด,
04:32
restrictive side of the cultural context.
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๊ตฌ์†์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด๊ณผ ๋งž์•„ ๋–จ์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
So, husbands start beating wives,
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๋‚จํŽธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋‚ด๋“ค์„ ๋•Œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
04:39
mothers and fathers beat their children,
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์—„๋งˆ์™€ ์•„๋น ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๋•Œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ,
04:41
and afterward, they feel awful.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋’ค ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋”์ฐํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
They did not want to do this, it just happened --
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๊ทธ๋“ค๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ์›์น˜๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:45
they lost control.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์ œ๋ ฅ์„ ์ƒ์‹คํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:48
The desperate try
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์žํฌ์ž๊ธฐ ์ƒํƒœ์ด์ง€๋งŒ,
04:50
to restore order and normality,
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๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค ์ •์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ํšŒ๋ณต๋˜๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
04:53
and if we are not able to cut this circle of violence,
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๋งŒ์ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํญ๋ ฅ์˜ ์ˆœํ™˜์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ๋Š์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋ฉด
04:57
it will be transferred to the next generation without a doubt.
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๋‘ ๋งํ•  ๋‚˜์œ„์—†์ด ๋‹ค์Œ์„ธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:00
And partly this is already happening.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:03
So everybody needs a sense for the future,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ, ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ธ์‹์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:06
and the Afghan sense of the future
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํฌ๋ง์€
05:08
is shattered.
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์‚ฐ์‚ฐ์กฐ๊ฐ์ด ๋‚˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํƒœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
But let me repeat the words of the woman.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์—ฌ์ธ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋˜์ƒˆ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:15
"Because you have felt me,
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"๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋Š๊ผˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—,
05:17
I can feel myself again."
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๋‚˜ ์—ญ์‹œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
05:20
So the key here is empathy.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ, ํ•ต์‹ฌ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฐ์ •์ด์ž…(๊ณต๊ฐ) ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:22
Somebody has to be a witness
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ์ผ์ด
05:24
to what has happened to you.
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์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:26
Somebody has to feel how you felt.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค๊ฑธ ๋Š๊ผˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:29
And somebody has to see you and listen to you.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ณด์•˜๊ณ , ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:34
Everybody must be able
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
to know what he or she has experienced is true,
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๊ทธ(ํ˜น์€ ๊ทธ๋…€)๊ฐ€ ๊ฒช์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์˜ ์ง„์‹ค์„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
05:40
and this only goes with another person.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:43
So everybody must be able to say,
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๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:45
"This happened to me, and it did this with me,
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"์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๊ณ , ๋‚˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
05:48
but I'm able to live with it, to cope with it,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทน๋ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ ์ผ์— ์ž˜ ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•˜๊ณ ,
05:50
and to learn from it.
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๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐฐ์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:52
And I want to engage myself
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์•„์ง ์ถœ๊ฐ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€
05:54
in the bright future for my children
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๋”ธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ €๋Š”
05:56
and the children of my children,
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์ œ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์•„์ด์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์˜
05:58
and I will not marry-off my 13 year-old daughter," --
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๋ฐ์€ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ž๋ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ผํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:01
what happens too often in Afghanistan.
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์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์—์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ผ๋“ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ž์ฃผ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:04
So something can be done,
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ํ•˜์—ฌ, ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์—์„œ๋Š”
06:06
even in such extreme environments as Afghanistan.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ทนํ•œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ๋„ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•ด๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:09
And I started thinking about a counseling program.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹ดํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:12
But, of course, I needed help and funds.
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์ €๋„ ๋„์›€๊ณผ ์ž๊ธˆ์˜ ์†๊ธธ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:14
And one evening,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋˜ ์–ด๋Š ์ €๋….
06:16
I was sitting next to a very nice gentleman in Kabul,
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์ €๋Š” ์นด๋ถˆ์—์„œ, ์–ด๋Š ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‹ ์‚ฌ๋ถ„ ์˜†์— ์•‰๊ฒŒ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:18
and he asked what I thought would be good in Afghanistan.
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์‹ ์‚ฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์—๋Š” ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:21
And I explained to him quickly,
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์ €๋Š” ์–ผ๋ฅธ ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:23
I would train psycho-social counselors,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •์‹ -์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ƒ๋‹ด๊ฐ€๋“ค์„ ํ›ˆ๋ จ์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
06:26
I would open centers, and I explained to him why.
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์„ผํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์—ด์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์™œ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ์ง€์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ์š”.
06:30
This man gave me his contact details at the end of the evening
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๊ทธ ๋‚จ์ž๋Š” ์ €๋…์ด ๋๋‚œ ๋’ค ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ž์„ธํ•œ ์—ฐ๋ฝ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๊ณ 
06:33
and said, "If you want to do this, call me."
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"๋งŒ์ผ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”ํ•ด์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
06:36
At that time, it was the head of Caritas Germany.
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๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ, ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋…์ผ ์นด๋ฆฌํƒ€์Šค์˜ ์šฐ๋‘๋จธ๋ฆฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
So, I was able to launch a three-year project with Caritas Germany,
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์ด ์ผ๋กœ, ์ €๋Š” ๋…์ผ ์นด๋ฆฌํƒ€์Šค์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ 3๋ฒˆ์˜ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
06:44
and we trained 30 Afghan women and men,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 30๋ช…์˜ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„ ์—ฌ์ž์™€ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์„ ํ›ˆ๋ จ์‹œ์ผฐ๊ณ ,
06:46
and we opened 15 counseling centers in Kabul.
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์นด๋ถˆ์— 15๊ฐœ์˜ ์ƒ๋‹ด์„ผํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์—ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:49
This was our sign -- it's hand-painted,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํ‘œ์‹œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์†์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ค์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:52
and we had 45 all over Kabul.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ 45๊ฐœ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์นด๋ถˆ์—์„œ ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:55
Eleven thousand people came -- more than that.
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11,000์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค-๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ข€ ๋งŽ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋…€๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:57
And 70 percent regained their lives.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  70%๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋˜์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
This was a very exciting time,
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๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ถ„๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ ,
07:02
developing this with my wonderful Afghan team.
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์ด๋Š” ์ €์˜ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„ ํŒ€๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฐœ์ „๋˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:05
And they are working with me up to today.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ๊นŒ์ง€๋„ ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:07
We developed a culturally-sensitive
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ •์‹ -์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ƒ๋‹ด์€
07:09
psycho-social counseling approach.
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๋ฌธํ™”์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ฌ์„ธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:12
So, from 2008 up until today,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ, 2008๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ๊นŒ์ง€
07:15
a substantial change and step forward
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์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
07:17
has been taking place.
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ํ•œ๋‹จ๊ณ„ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:19
The European Union delegation in Kabul
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์œ ๋Ÿฝ ์—ฐํ•ฉ์—์„œ๋Š”, ์นด๋ถˆ์ธก์ด ์ €๋ฅผ
07:22
came into this and hired me to work
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๊ณ ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ณต์ค‘ ๋ณด๊ฑด์— ๊ด€ํ•ด
07:24
inside the Ministry of Public Health,
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์ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก
07:26
to lobby this approach --
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์œ„์ž„ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:28
we succeeded.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:30
We revised the mental health component
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •์‹ -์‚ฌํšŒํ•™ ์ผ€์–ด,
07:33
of the primary health care services
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์ •์‹  ์‚ฌํšŒํ•™ ์ƒ๋‹ด์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ •์‹ ์  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„
07:35
by adding psycho-social care
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๋‹ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” 1์ฐจ์ ์ธ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ
07:37
and psycho-social counselors to the system.
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๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:40
This means, certainly, to retrain all health staff.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์Šคํ…๋“ค์˜ ์žฌ๊ต์œก์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:43
But for that, we already have the training manuals,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ทจ์ง€๋กœ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์žฌ๊ต์œก ๋ฉ”๋‰ด์–ผ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
07:46
which are approved by the Ministry
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๊ทธ ๋ฉ”๋‰ด์–ผ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋‚ด๊ฐ์˜ ์Šน์ธ์ด ๋‚ฌ๊ณ ,
07:49
and moreover, this approach is now part
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์˜
07:51
of the mental health strategy in Afghanistan.
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์ •์‹ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ „๋žต์ ์ธ ์ ‘๊ทผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:55
So we also have implemented it already
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๋˜ํ•œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ผ์— ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์žฅ๋น„๋“ค๋„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
07:57
in some selected clinics in three provinces,
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์ด๋ฏธ 3๊ฐœ์˜ ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์ง„๋ฃŒ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์—ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:00
and you are the first to see the results.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ฒซ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:03
We wanted to know if what is being done is effective.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ์ผ์ด ๋ฒŒ์–ด์กŒ๊ณ , ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:06
And here you can see
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค ์‹œํ”ผ
08:08
the patients all had symptoms of depression,
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ํ™˜์ž๋“ค ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๋ณดํ†ต์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ
08:11
moderate and severe.
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์šฐ์šธ์ฆ์„ ์•“๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:14
And the red line is the treatment as usual --
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์ด ๋นจ๊ฐ„ ์ค„์€ ํ”ํžˆ์žˆ๋Š” ์น˜๋ฃŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.-
08:16
medication with a medical doctor.
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์˜์‚ฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•ฝ๋ฌผ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
08:18
And all the symptoms
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ง•ํ›„๊ฐ€
08:20
stayed the same or even got worse.
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์ผ์ •ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋น ์ง€๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:23
And the green line is treatment with psycho-social counseling only,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋…น์ƒ‰์ค„์€ ์˜ค์ง ์ •์‹ -์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ƒ๋‹ด์œผ๋กœ๋งŒ ์น˜๋ฃŒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:25
without medication.
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์•ฝ๋ฌผ์น˜๋ฃŒ ์—†์ด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
08:27
And you can see the symptoms almost completely go away,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ฆ์ƒ์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์™„๋ฒฝํžˆ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:30
and the psycho-social stress has dropped significantly,
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์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ-์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ค„์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:33
which is explicable,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ฉ๋“์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์ผ๋กœ์จ
08:35
because you cannot take away the psycho-social stresses,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ-์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ฑฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ
08:37
but you can learn how to cope with them.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ญํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:40
So this makes us very happy,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์ด ์ผ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:42
because now we also have some evidence
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ฆ์ƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
08:44
that this is working.
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์ด ๋˜ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:47
So here you see,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š”
08:49
this is a health facility in Northern Afghanistan,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ถ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์˜ ๋ณด๊ฑด์†Œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:51
and every morning it looks like this all over.
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๋งค์ผ์•„์นจ ๋„์ฒ˜์—์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:54
And doctors usually have three to six minutes for the patients,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค์€ ํ†ต์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ 3~6๋ถ„๋™์•ˆ ํ™˜์ž๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:57
but now this will change.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:59
They go to the clinics,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํด๋ฆฌ๋‹‰์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:01
because they want to cure their immediate symptoms,
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋กœ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์น˜๋ฃŒํ•˜๊ธธ ์›ํ•˜๋ฉฐ,
09:03
and they will find somebody to talk to
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๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค ํ•˜๊ณ ,
09:05
and discuss these issues
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์ด์Šˆ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ํ† ๋ก ํ•˜๊ณ 
09:07
and talk about what is burdening them
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ง์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
09:09
and find solutions, develop their resources,
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ํ•ด๊ฒฐ์ฑ…์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ž ์žฌ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ 
09:12
learn tools to solve their family conflicts
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๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋Œ€๋ฆฝ์„ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ 
09:16
and gain some confidence in the future.
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๋˜ํ•œ, ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํ™•์‹ ์„ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:19
And I would like to share one short vignette.
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์ €๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์งค๋ง‰ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์„ ์„œ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ธธ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:23
One Hazara said to his Pashtun counselor,
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ํ•œ ํ•˜์ž๋ผ์กฑ์ด ๊ทธ์˜ ํŒŒ์ŠˆํŠ ์กฑ ์ƒ๋‹ด๊ฐ€์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:27
"If we were to have met some years ago,
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"๋งŒ์ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡๋…„ ์ „์— ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋”๋ผ๋ฉด
09:30
then we would have killed each other.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ฃฝ์˜€์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:32
And now you are helping me
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋„์™”๊ณ 
09:34
to regain some confidence in the future."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํฌ๋ง์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ๊ธˆ ์–ป์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
09:37
And another counselor said to me after the training,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒ๋‹ด๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ›ˆ๋ จ ํ›„ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:40
"You know, I never knew why I survived the killings in my village,
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"๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•Œ์•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์ฃฝ์Œ๋ฟ์ธ ๋งˆ์„์—์„œ ์™œ ์‚ด์•„ ๋‚จ์•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:44
but now I know,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ €๋„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:46
because I am part of a nucleus
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์ €๋Š”, ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด
09:48
of a new peaceful society in Afghanistan."
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ํ‰ํ™”์‚ฌํšŒ์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์ผ์›์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
09:51
So I believe this kept me running.
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ๋›ฐ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:54
And this is a really emancipatory and political contribution
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด์•ผ ๋ง๋กœ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ํ•ด๋ฐฉ์ด๋ฉฐ, ํ‰ํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ
09:57
to peace and reconciliation.
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์ •์น˜์  ๊ธฐ๋ถ€์ด๊ณ  ํ™”ํ•ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:00
And also -- I think --
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ €๋Š” ๋ง์ด์ฃ ,
10:02
without psycho-social therapy,
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์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ-์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์น˜๋ฃŒ์™€
10:04
and without considering this
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ธ๋„์ฃผ์˜์  ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์†์—์„œ
10:06
in all humanitarian projects,
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์„œ๋กœ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ดํ•ด ์—†์ด๋Š”
10:08
we cannot build-up civil societies.
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์‹œ๋ฏผ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฑด๋ฆฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:11
I thought it was an idea worth spreading,
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์ €๋Š” ์ด ์ผ์ด ๊ฐ€์น˜์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋„๋ฆฌ ํผ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:14
and I think it must be,
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์ €๋Š” ํ‹€๋ฆผ์—†์ด, ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ
10:16
can be, could be replicated elsewhere.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋„ ์ด ์ผ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผํ•˜๋ฆฌ๋ผ ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:19
I thank you for your attention.
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๊ฒฝ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:21
(Applause)
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์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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