Did the global response to 9/11 make us safer? | Benedetta Berti

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Helen Chang
00:13
Almost 20 years have passed since 9/11.
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九一一事件幾乎是 二十年前的事了。
00:18
It is time to take stock of where we stand
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此刻我們應該要評估一下 我們現在所處的狀況,
00:21
and stop and think.
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停下來做些思考。
00:24
It is time to ask ourselves,
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此刻我們應該問問自己,
00:26
have the assumptions and policies
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在那些悲劇事件之後,
00:28
we developed in the wake of those tragic events
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我們所發展出來的假設和政策
00:30
truly made us more secure?
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真的有讓我們更安全嗎?
00:33
Have they made our societies, both in Europe and in the United States,
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它們有讓我們的社會, 包括在歐洲和美國的社會,
00:38
more resilient?
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更有恢復力嗎?
00:40
I've worked all my life in the field of security and defense,
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我一生都在安全與防衛的領域工作,
00:44
and I am convinced that now, more than ever,
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我深信,我們現今比以往更需要
00:48
we need to radically reframe the way we think and act about security,
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徹底地重新構造我們針對安全 所用的思考和行動方式,
00:53
and especially about international security.
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特別是針對國際安全。
00:57
By international security, I actually mean what we do,
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我所謂的國際安全 指的是我們的作為,
01:00
how we prepare our countries
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我們如何讓我們的國家
01:02
to better respond and prevent external threats,
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有更好的準備來應變 和預防外在威脅,
01:05
and how we protect our citizens.
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以及我們如何保護我們的公民。
01:08
The key to both
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這兩者的關鍵
01:10
is to focus on protecting civilians,
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都在於把焦點放在保護平民百姓,
01:13
both in our own countries
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包括在我們自己國內的,
01:14
and in those where we are present in the name of security.
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及我們以安全之名 前往的國家中的平民百姓。
01:19
Now, this idea goes against the fixed narrative
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這個想法其實並不符合
01:21
that we developed over the past 20 years
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我們在過去二十年 所發展出來的不變說法,
01:24
over what security is and how to get it,
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關於安全應該是什麼 及如何得到安全的說法,
01:28
but that narrative is flawed, and worse, it is counterproductive.
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但那說法有瑕疵,更糟糕的是, 它還會產生不良的後果。
01:34
Over the past 20 years,
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在過去二十年間,
01:36
both in the United States and in Europe,
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在美國和在歐洲,
01:39
we've come to accept that we must talk about security in zero sum terms,
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我們漸漸接受了必須要用 零和的方式來談論安全性,
01:44
as if the only way to gain more security is by compromising on values and rights:
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彷彿能夠更安全的唯一方式
就是在價值觀和權利上做妥協:
01:49
security versus human rights,
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安全性 vs. 人權,
01:53
safety versus freedom and development.
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安全 vs. 自由和發展。
01:57
This is a false opposition.
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這是種錯誤的對立。
01:59
It just doesn't work like that.
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實際上不是這樣運作的。
02:01
We need to recognize
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我們得要了解到
02:03
that security and human rights are not opposite values,
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安全性和人權 並不是對立的價值觀,
02:05
they are intrinsically related.
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它們在內在其實是相關的。
02:09
After all, the most basic human right
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畢竟,最基本的人權
02:12
is the right to live and to be free from violence,
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就是生存和免於暴力的權利,
02:15
and a state's most basic responsibility
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而一個國家最基本的責任
02:18
is to guarantee that right for its citizens.
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就是要保障其公民的權利。
02:21
Conversely, if we think about communities all over the world
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反過來說,如果我們 想想全世界受到
02:26
affected by war and conflict,
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戰爭和衝突影響的社區,
02:28
it is insecurity and violence
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正是不安全感和暴力
02:31
that stops them from achieving their full freedom and development.
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讓他們無法達到 完全的自由和發展。
02:35
Now, they need basic security just as much as we do
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他們和我們一樣需要基本的安全,
02:39
and they need it so they can live a normal life
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他們需要基本的安全, 才能夠過正常的生活,
02:43
and so that they can enjoy their human rights.
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才能享受他們的人權。
02:45
This is why we need to shift.
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這就是為什麼我們需要轉變。
02:48
We need to acknowledge that sustainable security
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我們必須要承認,永續的安全性
02:51
builds on a foundation of human rights,
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應該要立基在人權的基礎之上,
02:53
builds on promoting and respecting human rights.
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立基在推動和尊重人權之上。
02:58
Also, over the past two decades,
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此外,在過去二十年間,
03:00
we have accepted that the best way to guarantee our own security
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我們也已經接受了 保障我們安全最好的方式
03:05
is by defeating our enemies,
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就是打敗我們的敵人,
03:07
and to do that, we need to rely almost exclusively on the military.
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若要打敗敵人,我們 幾乎就完全要仰賴軍隊。
03:12
Again, this clashes with my work, with my research,
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同樣的,這也抵觸我的工作、研究
03:15
with what I see in the field.
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和我在這領域的所見所聞。
03:17
What I see is that building sustainable security
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我看到的是:建立永續的安全性
03:20
has a lot less to do with crushing enemies,
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和摧毀敵人並沒有很大的關係,
03:23
has a lot less to do with winning on the battlefield,
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和在戰場上獲勝沒有很大的關係,
03:25
and has a lot more to do with protecting victims
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比較有關係的是保護受害者
03:28
and building stability.
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以及建立穩定性。
03:30
And to do that, well, the military alone
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如果要做到這些,光用軍隊
03:33
is simply insufficient.
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是不足夠的。
03:36
This is why I believe we need to shelve the never-ending War on Terror,
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這就是為什麼我相信 我們需要把反恐戰爭擺到一邊去,
03:41
and we need to replace it with a security agenda
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我們需要將它換成一種安全議程,
03:43
that is driven by the principle of protecting civilians,
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由保護平民百姓的原則 所驅使的議程,
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no matter where they are from, what passport they hold,
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且不去區分平民百姓是來自何方、 持有哪一國的護照,
03:51
or where they live:
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或現居地是哪裡:
03:52
Vancouver, New York,
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溫哥華、紐約、
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Kabul, Mosul, Aleppo or Douma.
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喀布爾、摩蘇爾、 阿勒坡,或杜馬。
03:59
Sustainable security tells us that we're more likely
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永續安全性告訴我們,
如果我們想要自己在家鄉 能夠擁有長期的安全,
04:02
to have long-term security at home for ourselves
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04:06
if we focus our engagements abroad on protecting civilians
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我們就必須要把我們對國外的 干涉,著重在保護平民百姓,
04:10
and on ensuring their lives are lived in dignity and free from violence.
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著重在確保他們能有尊嚴地過生活,
免受暴力威脅。
04:16
For example, we all know that defeating ISIS
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比如,我們都知道打敗伊斯蘭國
04:20
is a security achievement.
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是安全上的一項成就。
04:21
Absolutely.
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當然。
04:23
But rebuilding destroyed homes,
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但重建被摧毀的家園、
04:26
restoring order,
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重新恢復秩序、
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ensuring a representative political system,
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確保能有代議的政治體制,
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these are just as, if not more important,
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這些都同等重要,甚至更重要,
04:34
and not just for the security of civilians in Iraq and in Syria,
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且不只是為了伊拉克 和敘利亞平民百姓的安全,
04:38
but for our own security and for global stability.
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也是為了我們自己的安全 以及全球的穩定性。
04:43
More fundamentally,
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更重要的,
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ISIS's danger should not just be counted in the number of weapons it holds
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伊斯蘭國的危險性
不應該只用它所持有的 武器數目來計算,
04:51
but also in the number of children it has kept out of school
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還要考量它讓多少孩子無法上學,
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or indoctrinated.
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或被灌輸信仰。
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This is from a security perspective.
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這是從安全性的角度來看。
04:59
From a security perspective,
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從安全性的角度,
05:01
the long-term generational impact of having millions of children in Syria
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如果讓數百萬的敘利亞孩子
在成長過程中 只知道戰爭和不上學,
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growing up knowing only war and out of school,
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就長期的世代衝擊來看,
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this is a far more dangerous threat to stability
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對穩定性所產生的威脅,
會比所有伊斯蘭國的武器 加起來都還要危險,
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than all of ISIS's weapons combined,
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05:17
and we should spend just as much time and just as much energy to counter this
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我們花在這上面的時間和精力,
應該要跟反擊
05:23
as what we spend when countering ISIS militarily.
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伊斯蘭軍隊所花的 時間和精力一樣。
05:29
Over the past two decades, our security policy has been short-term.
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在過去二十年間, 我們的安全政策都是短期的。
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It has focused on the here and now.
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安全政策的焦點都放在此時此刻。
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It has systematically downplayed the link between what we do today
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它很有計畫性地將我們現今 以安全之名所做的行為
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in the name of security
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與那些選擇的長期影響
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and the long-term impact of those choices.
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之間的連結給輕描淡寫過去。
05:44
In the years after 9/11,
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在九一一事件後的這些年,
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some of the choices,
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我們所做的一些選擇,
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some of the policies we've implemented
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我們導入的一些政策,
05:51
have probably made us less, not more secure in the long term.
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在長期來看可能並沒有讓我們 更安全,反而是更不安全。
05:56
Sustainable, civilian-centered security
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若要做到以平民百姓 為中心的永續安全性,
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needs to look at what happens in the long term.
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就得要去看長期會發生的狀況。
06:03
Again, for example,
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再舉個例子,
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relying on drones to target enemies in faraway countries may be a tool.
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靠無人機來鎖定遠方國家的 敵人可能是一種工具。
06:10
It may be a tool to make sure or to lessen the threat
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這種工具可能可以確保或減少
06:13
of an imminent attack on the United States.
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即將對美國進行之攻擊的威脅性。
06:16
But what about the long-term impact?
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但長期的影響呢?
06:20
If civilians are killed,
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如果平民百姓被殺害,
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if communities are targeted,
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如果社區成為目標,
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this will feed a vicious circle
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這會促成惡性循環,
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of war, conflict, trauma and radicalization,
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戰爭、衝突、傷害, 以及極端化的惡性循環,
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and that vicious circle is at the center of so many of the security challenges
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而現今我們所面臨的安全性難題當中,
中心議題常常就是那惡性循環。
06:36
we face today.
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06:38
This will not make us safer in the long term.
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長期來看,這樣做 不會讓我們更安全。
06:41
We need civilian security,
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我們需要平民百姓的安全性,
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we need sustainable civilian-centered security,
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我們需要以平民百姓 為中心的永續安全性,
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and we need it now.
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且我們現在就需要。
06:50
We need to encourage thinking and research around this concept,
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我們需要鼓勵關於 這個概念的思想和研究,
06:54
and to implement it.
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並付諸實行。
06:56
We live in a dangerous world.
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我們住在一個危險的世界上。
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We have many threats to peace and conflict.
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我們的和平會受到很多威脅, 會有許多突衝。
07:03
Much like in the days after 9/11,
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就很像在九一一事件之後的日子,
07:05
we simply cannot afford not to think about international security.
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我們實在無法承擔 不去思考國際安全的後果。
07:10
But we have to learn the lessons of the past 20 years.
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但我們得要從過去 二十年學到教訓。
07:14
To get it right, to get security right,
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要把它做對,要把安全性做對,
07:17
we need to focus on the long term.
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我們就得要把焦點放在長期。
07:19
We need to focus on protecting civilians.
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我們得要把焦點放在 保護平民百姓。
07:22
And we need to respect and acknowledge the fact
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我們得要尊重及承認一項事實:
07:24
that sustainable security builds on a foundation of human rights.
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永續的安全性是立基在人權上的。
07:30
Otherwise, in the name of security,
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否則,我們以安全為名,
07:33
we risk leaving the world
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卻在冒險讓這個世界
07:35
a far more dangerous and unstable place
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變成一個比我們 現在的狀況更危險許多
07:38
than what we already found it in.
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且不穩定的地方。
07:41
Thank you.
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謝謝。
07:43
(Applause)
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