From death row to law graduate | Peter Ouko

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Yanyan Hong
00:12
I want to tell you a story about Manson.
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我想告訴各位一個關於曼森的故事。
00:17
Manson was this 28-year-old interior designer,
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曼森是這位 28 歲的室內設計師,
00:21
a father to a loving daughter,
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有一位親愛的女兒,
00:23
and a son
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和一個兒子,
00:25
who found himself behind bars due to a broken-down judicial system.
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他因為出了問題的司法制度而入獄。
00:30
He was framed for a murder he didn't commit
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他被誣告一件不是他犯下的謀殺,
00:33
and was sentenced to the gallows.
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因而被判入獄。
00:36
There were two victims of this murder -- the victim who actually died in the murder
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這件謀殺有兩名受害者—— 真正死於謀殺的受害者,
00:40
and Manson, who had been sentenced to prison
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以及曼森,他被判入獄,
00:43
for an offense which he did not commit.
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背負不是他所犯的罪過。
00:47
He was locked up in a cell, eight by seven,
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他被鎖在一間大小 7x8 的牢房中,
00:49
with 13 other grown-up men
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和十三名成年男子關在一起,
00:52
for 23 and a half hours a day.
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一天關 23 個半小時,
00:55
Food was not guaranteed that you'd get.
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也不保證能有食物。
00:59
And I remember yesterday,
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我記得昨天,
01:00
as I walked into the room where I was,
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當我走進我所在的房間,
01:04
I imagined the kind of cell that Manson would have been living in.
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我想像著曼森所住的牢房。
01:07
Because the toilet --
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因為廁所——
01:09
The row of the small rooms
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那裡有一列小房間,
01:10
that were there were slightly bigger than the eight-by-seven cell.
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大小比 8x7 的牢房稍大一點點。
01:14
But being in that cell as he awaited the executioner --
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但,在牢房裡等著行刑手——
01:17
because in prison, he did not have a name --
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因為在監獄裡,他沒有名字——
01:20
Manson was known by a number.
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曼森只是一個號碼,
01:22
He was just a statistic.
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他只是一個統計數字。
01:25
He did not know how long he would wait.
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他不知道他要等多久。
01:28
The wait could have been a minute,
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等待時間可能是一分鐘,
01:30
the executioner could have come the next minute,
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行刑手可能下一分鐘就來了,
01:32
the next day,
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可能是隔天才來,
01:33
or it could have taken 30 years.
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也可能要等三十年。
01:37
The wait had no end.
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等候沒有終點。
01:40
And in the midst of the excruciating pain,
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在極度的痛苦當中,
01:43
the mental torture,
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心理折磨中,
01:46
the many unanswered questions that Manson faced,
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曼森所面對的許多問題, 未被解答的問題,
01:50
he knew he was not going to play the victim.
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他知道他不要扮演受害者。
01:53
He refused to play the role of the victim.
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他拒絕扮演受害者的角色。
01:56
He was angry at the justice system that had put him behind bars.
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他很氣司法體制把他打入大牢。
02:01
But he knew the only way he could change that justice system
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但他知道,他能改變 那司法體制的唯一方式,
02:04
or help other people get justice
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或協助其他人得到正義的方式,
02:06
was not to play the victim.
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就是不要扮演受害者。
02:09
Change came to Manson when he decided to embrace forgiveness
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當曼森決定要擁抱寬恕, 原諒那些把他關進來的人時,
02:13
for those who had put him in prison.
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改變發生在他身上。
02:17
I speak that as a fact.
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我說的是事實。
02:20
Because I know who Manson is.
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因為我知道曼森是怎樣的人。
02:24
I am Manson.
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我就是曼森。
02:26
My real name is Peter Manson Ouko.
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我的真名是彼得曼森歐可。
02:30
And after my conviction,
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在我堅定信念之後,
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after that awakening of forgiveness,
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在寬恕的覺醒之後,
02:35
I had this move
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我有了一項對策,
02:37
to help change the system.
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要來協助改變這個體制。
02:40
I already decided I was not going to be a victim anymore.
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我已經決定我不要再當受害者了。
02:44
But how was I going to help change a system
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但我要如何協助改變一個體制,
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that was bringing in younger inmates every day
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且是個每天都會把更年輕、 應該和家人在一起的囚犯
02:49
who deserve to be with their families?
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給送進來的體制?
02:52
So I started mobilizing my colleagues in prison, my fellow inmates,
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所以我開始動員我監獄中的 同事,我的獄友們,
02:56
to write letters and memoranda to the justice system,
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寫信和備忘錄給司法體制,
03:00
to the Judicial Service Commission,
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給司法服務委員會,
03:03
the numerous task forces that had been set up
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給在我們的國家,肯亞,設立來
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in our country, Kenya,
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協助改變憲法的數個工作任務小組。
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to help change the constitution.
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03:10
And we decided to grasp at those --
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而我們決定要抓那些——
03:12
to clutch at those straws, if I may use that word --
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抓住那些巨怪, 如果我可以用這個詞的話——
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if only to make the justice system work,
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但願能讓司法體制能夠有用,
03:18
and work for all.
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對所有人都有用。
03:21
Just about the same time,
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大約同時,
03:22
I met a young university graduate from the UK,
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我遇到了一位來自英國的 年輕大學畢業生,
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called Alexander McLean.
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名叫亞歷山大麥克林,
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Alexander had come in with three or four of his colleagues from university
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亞歷山大和三或四個大學的 同事在他們的空檔年
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in their gap year,
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一起進來的,
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and they wanted to help assist,
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他們想要幫忙協助
03:35
set up a library in Kamiti Maximum Prison,
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在卡米堤高度安全管理 監獄中設立圖書館,
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which if you Google,
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如果你去 Google 查,
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you will see is written as one of the 15 worst prisons in the world.
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會發現它是世界上 最糟的十五所監獄之一。
03:43
That was then.
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那是當時。
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But when Alexander came in,
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但當亞歷山大來的時候,
03:46
he was a young 20-year-old boy.
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他是個年輕的 20 歲男孩。
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And I was on death row at that time.
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我那時等著被執行死刑。
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And we took him under our wing.
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我們照料、庇護他。
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It was an honest trust issue.
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那和誠實的信任有關。
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He trusted us, even though we were on death row.
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他相信我們,儘管我們都是死刑犯。
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And through that trust,
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透過那份信任,
04:00
we saw him and his colleagues from the university
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我們看著他和他來自大學的同事
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refurbish the library with the latest technology
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用最新的科技整修了圖書館,
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and set up the infirmary to very good standards
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並把醫務室做到非常高水準,
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so that those of us falling sick in prison
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所以我們當中若有人在監獄中生病,
04:13
would not necessarily have to die in indignity.
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不見得要沒有尊嚴地死去。
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Having met Alexander,
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遇見了亞歷山大,
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I had a chance,
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讓我有了機會,
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and he gave me the opportunity and the support,
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他給予我機會和支持,
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to enroll for a university degree at the University of London.
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註冊倫敦大學攻讀大學學位。
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Just like Mandela studied from South Africa,
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就像曼德拉從南非讀書學習,
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I had a chance to study at Kamiti Maximum Security Prison.
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我有機會在卡米堤高度 安全管理監獄讀書學習。
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And two years later,
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兩年後,
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I became the first graduate of the program
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在倫敦大學的這個方案中,
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from the University of London from within the prison system.
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第一個在監獄體制中 畢業的人就是我。
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Having graduated, what happened next --
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畢業之後,接著發生的是——
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
04:50
Thank you.
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謝謝你們。
04:51
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
04:52
Having graduated,
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畢業之後,
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now I felt empowered.
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現在我覺得有能力。
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I was not going to play the helpless victim.
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我不要扮演無助的受害者。
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But I felt empowered not only to assist myself,
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我不只覺得有能力協助我自己,
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to prosecute my own case,
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起訴我的案子,
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but also to assist the other inmates
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同時協助我們剛剛在這裡談到的
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who are suffering the similar injustices that have just been spoken about here.
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同樣也受到類似 不公正問題所苦的獄友。
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So I started writing legal briefs for them.
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所以我開始為他們 撰寫訴訟案情摘要。
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With my other colleagues in prison, we did as much as we could.
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我和獄中的同事們 能做多少就做多少。
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That wasn't enough.
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那還不夠。
05:23
Alexander McLean
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亞歷山大麥克林
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and his team at the African Prisons Project
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和他在非洲監獄專案計畫的團隊
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decided to support more inmates.
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決定要支援更多獄友。
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And as I'm speaking to you today,
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我現在在這裡演說時,
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there are 63 inmates and staff in the Kenya Prison Service
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有 63 位獄友以及 肯亞監獄服務的工作人員
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studying law at the University of London through distance learning.
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透過遠端學習, 在倫敦大學研讀法律。
05:40
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
05:45
These are changemakers who are being motivated
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這些造成改變的人不僅積極地
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not only to assist the most indolent in society,
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去協助社會中最懶惰的人,
05:52
but also to help the inmates and others get access to justice.
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也協助獄友以及其他人得到正義。
05:59
Down there in my prison cell, something kept stirring me.
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在我的牢房中, 有樣東西一直激勵著我。
06:03
The words of Martin Luther King kept hitting me.
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馬丁路德金恩博士的話一直衝擊著我。
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And he was always telling me, "Pete, if you can't fly,
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他總是告訴我: 「彼得,如果你不能飛,
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you can run.
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你可以跑。
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And if you can't run,
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如果你不能跑,
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you can walk.
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你可以走。
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But if you can't walk,
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但如果你不能走,
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then you can crawl.
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你可以爬。
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But whatever it is, whatever it takes,
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不論是什麼狀況,不論要什麼代價,
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just keep on moving."
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只管繼續前進。」
06:26
And so I had this urge to keep moving.
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所以我有強烈的動力要繼續前進。
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I still have this urge to keep moving in whatever I do.
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不論做什麼,我都有 強烈的動力要繼續前進。
06:31
Because I feel the only way we can change our society,
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因為我認為,我們能夠 改變社會的唯一方式,
06:35
the only way we can change the justice system --
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我們能夠改變司法體制的唯一方式,
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which has really improved in our country --
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這真正改善我們國家的制度,
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is to help get the systems right.
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就是協助去導正體制。
06:42
So, on 26th October last year, after 18 years in prison,
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所以,去年 10 月 26 日, 在監獄中待了 18 年後,
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I walked out of prison on presidential pardon.
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我得到總統赦免,離開了監獄。
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I'm now focused on helping APP -- the African Prisons Project --
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我現在致力在協助 APP, 非洲監獄專案計畫,
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achieve its mandate of training and setting up
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達成它的使命:訓練和設立
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the first law school and legal college behind bars.
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第一所監獄中的法律學校及法學院。
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Where we are going to train --
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在那裡,我們將會訓練——
07:03
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
07:06
Where we are going to train inmates and staff
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在那裡,我們將會 訓練獄友和工作人員,
07:10
not only to assist their fellow inmates,
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不只是去協助他們的獄友伙伴,
07:12
but to assist the entire wider society of the poor
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也要協助整個更廣大的貧窮社會,
07:15
who cannot access legal justice.
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那些無法得到司法正義的人。
07:19
So as I speak before you today,
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所以,今天我在這裡演說,
07:21
I stand here in the full knowledge that we can all reexamine ourselves,
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我非常清楚了解,我們 所有人都能夠重新自我檢視,
07:27
we can all reexamine our situations,
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我們都能夠重新檢視我們的情形,
07:30
we can all reexamine our circumstances
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我們都能夠重新檢視我們的境況,
07:33
and not play the victim narrative.
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不要用受害者的方式來說故事。
07:36
The victim narrative will not take us anywhere.
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這種說故事方式不會有幫助。
07:40
I was behind bars, yeah.
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我曾坐過牢,是的。
07:42
But I never felt and I was not a prisoner.
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但我從沒感覺到過, 且我不是個囚犯。
07:48
The basic thing I got to learn
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我學到一件基本的事,
07:50
was that if I thought,
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那就是,如果我當時認為,
07:52
and if you think, you can,
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且如果你認為,你可以,
07:55
you will.
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你就會做到。
07:56
But if you sit thinking that you can't,
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但如果你就坐著認為自己不行,
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you won't.
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你就做不到。
08:01
It's as simple as that.
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就那麼簡單。
08:04
And so I'm encouraged by the peaceful revolutionaries
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所以,在這個舞台上演說的 和平革命家們鼓勵了我。
08:06
I've heard on this stage.
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08:08
The world needs you now, the world needs you today.
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世界現在就需要你, 世界今天就需要你。
08:12
And as I finish my talk,
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在我演說的最後,
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I'd just like to ask each and every single one of you here,
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我想要請在座的每一個人,
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wonderful thinkers, changemakers, innovators,
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美好的思想家、 推動改變的人、創新者、
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the wonderful global citizens we have at TED,
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TED 的美好全球公民,
08:26
just remember the words of Martin Luther King.
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請記住馬丁路德金恩博士的話。
08:29
Let them continue ringing in your heart and your life.
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讓這段話持續在你心中 及你人生中迴響。
08:33
Whatever it is,
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不論是什麼事,
08:35
wherever you are,
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不論你在哪裡,
08:36
whatever it takes,
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不論要什麼代價,
08:38
keep on moving.
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繼續走下去。
08:39
Thank you.
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謝謝。
08:40
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
08:44
Thank you.
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謝謝。
08:45
(Applause)
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