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譯者: Suet Mei Hau
審譯者: Mindy Kuei
00:26
I bet you're worried.
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我敢說你很擔心
00:28
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:30
I was worried.
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我也很擔心,這就是為什麼我開始這作品
00:32
That's why I began this piece.
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00:33
I was worried about vaginas.
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我擔心陰道, 我擔心我們怎樣看待陰道
00:37
I was worried what we think about vaginas
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00:40
and even more worried
that we don't think about them.
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但更擔心我們沒有想起陰道
00:43
I was worried about my own vagina.
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我擔心自己的陰道
00:45
It needed a context, a culture,
a community of other vaginas.
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它的存在還需要其他陰道的存在, 還有陰道的文化, 背景, 以及陰道的社群
00:51
There is so much darkness
and secrecy surrounding them.
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只是它們被很多的黑暗和秘密包圍著
00:54
Like the Bermuda Triangle,
nobody ever reports back from there.
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就好像百慕達三角, 從來沒有人回來回報那裡的情況
00:59
(Laughter)
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01:00
In the first place, it's not so easy
to even find your vagina.
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(笑聲)
第一, 你其實並不容易可以找到自己的陰道
01:04
Women go days, weeks, months,
without looking at it.
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女性往往年年, 月月, 日日也沒有好好的看過它
01:08
I interviewed a high-powered
businesswoman;
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我曾訪過一個很能幹的女實業家
01:10
she told me she didn't have time.
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她跟我說她沒有時間
01:13
"Looking at your vagina,"
she said, "is a full day's work."
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『要看自己的陰道』, 她說: 『那要花一整天的時間呢!』
01:15
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:17
"You've got to get down there
on your back, in front of a mirror,
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『你需要彎下你的背, 在一塊鏡子前面
01:20
full-length preferred.
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最好是全身鏡子。你需要找到一個完美的姿勢
01:21
You've got to get in the perfect position
with the perfect light,
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有著完美的燈光, 可是光線又很快的給你的身影遮住了
01:24
which then becomes shadowed
by the angle you're at.
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01:27
You're twisting your head up,
arching your back, it's exhausting."
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你需要扭轉你的頭, 拱起你的腰, 這真是很累人的.....』
01:30
She was busy; she didn't have time.
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她很忙, 她沒有時間
01:32
So I decided to talk to women
about their vaginas.
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所以我決定去跟不同的女性去談談她們的陰道
01:36
They began as casual vagina interviews,
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由一些很輕鬆的陰道訪談開始
01:39
and they turned into vagina monologues.
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後來這些變成了『陰道獨白』
01:41
I talked with over 200 women.
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我曾經跟超過二百位女士談過, 我跟年老的女人談
01:44
I talked to older women, younger women,
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married women, lesbians, single women.
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年輕的女人, 己婚的女人, 同性戀者, 獨身的女人
01:49
I talked to corporate professionals,
college professors, actors, sex workers.
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我跟公司的企業人士談, 大學教授, 演員, 性工作者
01:54
I talked to African-American women,
Asian-American women,
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我跟非裔美國女性談, 亞裔美國女性
01:57
Native-American women,
Caucasian women, Jewish women.
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印第安女性, 白種女性, 猶太女性
02:01
OK, at first women were a little shy,
a little reluctant to talk.
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好了, 起初的時候, 他們都有點害羞, 有點不願意去講
02:07
Once they got going,
you couldn't stop them.
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但當她們開始了, 你便不能讓她們停止
02:10
Women love to talk
about their vaginas, they do.
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女人都喜歡去講關於她們的陰道, 她們是喜歡的
02:14
Mainly because no one's ever
asked them before.
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只是因為之前沒有人問過她們而已
02:16
(Laughter)
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02:17
Let's just start with the word
"vagina" -- vagina, vagina.
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(笑聲)
讓我們由陰道這個字眼開始---陰道, 陰道, 陰道
02:23
It sounds like an infection, at best.
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它聽起來好像是一種傳染病似的, 或好像是一件醫療用具
02:25
Maybe a medical instrument.
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02:27
"Hurry, nurse, bring the vagina!"
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『喂, 快點, 護士, 拿個陰道來。』
02:29
(Laughter)
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02:30
Vagina, vagina, vagina.
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(笑聲)
陰道, 陰道, 陰道, 你把這字眼說過多少次都沒所謂
02:32
It doesn't matter how many times
you say the word,
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02:34
it never sounds like a word
you want to say.
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你說這字眼, 它總不會聽起來是讓你想說的字眼
02:37
It's a completely ridiculous,
totally un-sexy word.
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這是一個完全荒謬, 完全不性感的字眼
02:42
If you use it during sex,
trying to be politically correct,
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假如你在進行性行為時運用這個字眼, 試著用最正確的語言
02:45
"Darling, would you stroke my vagina,"
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『親愛的, 你可以撫摸我的陰道嗎?』 你一定當場讓對方失去"性"趣
02:48
you kill the act right there.
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02:50
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:52
I'm worried what we call them
and don't call them.
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我會擔心我們叫它, 也擔心我們不提及它
02:55
In Great Neck, New York,
they call it a Pussycat.
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在紐約的大內克, 他們叫它做『小貓咪』
02:58
A woman told me there
her mother used to tell her,
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有一個女人告訴我, 她媽媽曾經告訴她:
03:01
"Don't wear panties, dear,
underneath your pajamas.
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『親愛的不要穿內褲, 在你的睡衣內
03:03
You need to air out your Pussycat."
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要讓你的小貓咪透透氣。』
03:05
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:09
In Westchester, they call it a Pooki,
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在韋斯特切斯特, 他們叫它做卜姬, 在新澤西, 它叫做屄
03:11
in New Jersey, a twat.
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03:13
There's Powderbox, derriere,
a Pooky, a Poochi, a Poopi,
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還有粉盒, 私處, 下身, 豆腐,
03:18
a Poopelu, a Pooninana,
a Padepachetchki, a Pal, and a Piche.
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鮑魚, 果度, 妹妹, 梅花穴
03:22
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:24
There's Toadie, Dee Dee, Nishi,
Dignity, Coochi Snorcher,
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這是鼠溪地, 桃花洞, 私密地, 花蕊
03:29
Cooter, Labbe, Gladys Seagelman, VA,
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下面, 秘密花園, v v , 黑森林, 松林深處
03:34
Wee wee, Horsespot, Nappy Dugout,
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03:39
Mongo, Ghoulie, Powderbox,
a Mimi in Miami,
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尿道, 生命之道, 粉盒, 在邁阿密叫做咪咪
03:45
a Split Knish in Philadelphia ...
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在費城叫做『分裂了的餡餅』, 在布隆克斯區就叫做『史密迪』
03:47
(Laughter)
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03:48
and a Schmende in the Bronx.
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03:50
(Laughter)
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03:51
I am worried about vaginas.
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(笑聲)
我因為掛念陰道
03:54
This is how the "Vagina
Monologues" begins.
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這就是『陰道獨白』的開始。
03:57
But it really didn't begin there.
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但它也不是真正的在這裡開始, 它開始在我和一個女人的對談
04:00
It began with a conversation with a woman.
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04:03
We were having a conversation
about menopause,
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一個關於更年期的對談
04:06
and we got onto the subject of her vagina,
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接著便提到有關她的陰道.....
04:08
which you'll do if you're
talking about menopause.
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談到更年期, 你都會談到陰道
04:10
And she said things that really
shocked me about her vagina --
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她說到她的陰道, 實在讓我非常震驚
04:13
that it was dried-up
and finished and dead --
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就是它會變得乾涸, 會完結和死亡, 而讓我感到震驚
04:15
and I was kind of shocked.
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04:17
So I said to a friend casually,
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所以我用輕鬆的語氣問她, 『那, 你怎樣看你的陰道?』
04:18
"Well, what do you think
about your vagina?"
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04:20
And that woman said
something more amazing,
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那個女人就說了一些很有趣的東西
04:22
and then the next woman said
something more amazing,
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接著下一個女人說了些更有趣的東西
04:25
and before I knew it,
every woman was telling me
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在我了解它之前, 每一個女人都跟我說
04:27
I had to talk to somebody
about their vagina
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我需要去跟其他人談談她們的陰道, 因為每一個人都有一個有趣的陰道故事
04:29
because they had an amazing story,
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於是, 我便陷進了這個陰道的旅程之中了
04:31
and I was sucked down the vagina trail.
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04:33
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:34
And I really haven't gotten off of it.
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我到現在仍然未能離開這旅程, 我想如果在我年輕的時候, 你告訴我
04:37
I think if you had told me
when I was younger
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當我長大之後, 有一天在一家鞋店
04:39
that I was going to grow up,
and be in shoe stores,
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04:41
and people would scream out,
"There she is, the Vagina Lady!"
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有人會指著我尖叫: 『就是她, 這個陰道的女人。』
04:44
I don't know that that would have
been my life ambition.
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我也不知道自己是否還會把這個變成我的人生使命
04:47
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:48
But I want to talk a little bit
about happiness,
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但我仍想講一些有關我遇過的快樂, 以及認識過的人
04:50
and the relationship
to this whole vagina journey,
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在整個陰道旅程內, 因為
04:52
because it has been
an extraordinary journey
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這八年真是一個不平凡的旅程
04:54
that began eight years ago.
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04:56
I think before I did
the "Vagina Monologues,"
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我想我在開始陰道獨白之前
04:58
I didn't really believe in happiness.
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我是從不曾真正的相信這世界是有快樂的
05:01
I thought that only idiots
were happy, to be honest.
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我以為只有傻瓜才會快樂, 是真的
05:04
I remember when I started
practicing Buddhism 14 years ago,
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我記得當我十四年前開始學習佛教的道理
05:08
and I was told that the end
of this practice was to be happy,
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別人告訴我, 我修練結束後便會變得快樂
05:11
I said, "How could you be happy
and live in this world of suffering
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我說: 『怎樣才可以在這個充滿苦難的塵世活得快樂,
05:15
and live in this world of pain?"
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以及怎樣在痛苦中生存?』我錯誤的以為快樂是許多其他的東西,
05:17
I mistook happiness
for a lot of other things,
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05:21
like numbness or decadence or selfishness.
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好像是麻木, 或是頹廢, 或是自私
05:24
And what happened through the course
of the "Vagina Monologues"
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而在經歷過陰道獨白的過程中所發生的事
05:27
and this journey is,
I think I have come to understand
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以及這個旅程, 我想我開始明白
05:30
a little bit more about happiness.
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多一點有關快樂的事了。
05:32
There are three qualities
I want to talk about.
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我想談談這當中的三個特質
05:35
One is seeing what's
right in front of you,
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第一是 看到你面前的東西, 和談及它
05:38
and talking about it, and stating it.
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以及說明它。我想在談及陰道
05:41
I think what I learned
from talking about the vagina
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05:44
and speaking about the vagina,
is it was the most obvious thing --
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以及說出陰道的過程, 我知道它是最明顯的----
05:47
it was right in the center of my body
and the center of the world --
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它就在我身體的中央, 也是世界的中心
05:50
and yet it was the one thing
nobody talked about.
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但卻是一件沒有人會談及的事
05:53
The second thing is that what talking
about the vagina did
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第二件事是, 在我們談及陰道的時候
05:57
is it opened this door
which allowed me to see
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也是開了一扇門, 容讓我去看到
06:00
that there was a way to serve
the world to make it better.
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我可以怎樣去服侍這世界而令它變得更好
06:03
And that's where the deepest happiness
has actually come from.
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而這就是最深刻的快樂的來源
06:07
And the third principle of happiness,
which I've realized recently:
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第三個快樂的原則, 我還是最近才發現的
06:10
Eight years ago, this momentum
and this energy, this "V-wave" started --
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八年前, 這股陰道的旋風和能量開始了---
06:15
and I can only describe it
as a "V-wave" because, to be honest,
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我只能說它是陰道旋風 因為坦白的,
06:18
I really don't understand it completely;
I feel at the service of it.
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我並不完全了解它, 我覺得我需要配合這旋風
06:22
But this wave started,
and if I question the wave,
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當這旋風開始了, 假如我去懷疑它
06:25
or try to stop the wave
or look back at the wave,
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或是嘗試去制止它, 或是回望它
06:28
I often have the experience of whiplash
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我便常有一種給鞭打了
06:31
or the potential of my neck breaking.
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或是給問吊的感覺。但假如我順著這旋風
06:33
But if I go with the wave,
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06:34
and I trust the wave
and I move with the wave,
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我信任它, 我跟它同行, 我會到達彼岸
06:37
I go to the next place, and it happens
logically and organically and truthfully.
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它就是如此的合理地, 有機地, 真實的在發生著
06:41
And I started this piece, particularly
with stories and narratives,
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我由這裡開始, 尤其是她們的故事和描述
06:47
and I was talking to one woman
and that led to another woman
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我跟一個女人談, 然後是另一個
06:50
and that led to another woman.
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再轉到另一個, 接著我寫下她們的故事,
06:52
And then I wrote those stories down,
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06:53
and I put them out
in front of other people.
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並在別人面前展示出來
06:56
And every single time
I did the show at the beginning,
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每次當我表演的時候
06:58
women would literally
line up after the show,
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許多女人都會在表演後自發地排成隊伍
07:01
because they wanted
to tell me their stories.
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因為她們都想把自己的故事告訴我
07:03
And at first I thought, "Oh great,
I'll hear about wonderful orgasms,
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起初的時候, 我想: 『太好了, 我可以聽到絕妙的高潮,
很精彩的性生活, 以及她們怎樣愛惜自己的陰道。』
07:07
and great sex lives, and how women
love their vaginas."
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07:09
But in fact, that's not
what women lined up to tell me.
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但事實是, 這是都不是她們想排隊告訴我的事
07:13
What women lined up to tell me
was how they were raped,
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她們排隊告訴我她們怎樣給別人強姦
07:16
and how they were battered,
and how they were beaten,
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她們怎樣被虐待, 以及怎樣被毒打
07:18
and how they were gang-raped
in parking lots,
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她們怎樣在停車場內給輪姦
07:21
and how they were incested
by their uncles.
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以及她們被自己的叔叔亂倫強暴
07:23
And I wanted to stop doing
the "Vagina Monologues,"
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我曾想過不要再寫『陰道獨白』了
07:25
because it felt too daunting.
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因為實在是太嚇人了。我覺得自己好像是戰地攝影師
07:27
I felt like a war photographer
who takes pictures of terrible events,
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只在戰場上拍下可怕的照片, 但卻沒有做任何事去制止這些事情的發生
07:30
but doesn't intervene on their behalf.
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07:33
And so in 1997, I said,
"Let's get women together.
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所以在一九九七年, 我說: 『不如我們集合女性的力量,
07:37
What could we do with this information
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當我們收集了這些女性被侵犯的資料, 究竟我們可以做些什麼?』
07:39
that all these women are being violated?"
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07:42
And it turned out, after thinking
and investigating,
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最後, 在不住的思考和研究之後
07:45
that I discovered -- and the UN
has actually said this recently --
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我發現, 同時聯合國最近也說到 ---
07:49
that one out of every three
women on this planet
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地球上有三份之一的女性,
07:52
will be beaten or raped in her lifetime.
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在她們的人生之中, 曾經遭遇過被虐打或是被強暴
07:55
That's essentially a gender;
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這地球上最基本的性別, 最基本的資源, 就是女性
07:56
that's essentially the resource
of the planet, which is women.
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08:00
So in 1997 we got all these incredible
women together and we said,
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所以在一九九七年, 我們集合了所有了不起的女性, 我們說:
08:03
"How can we use the play, this energy,
to stop violence against women?"
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『我們可以怎樣運用舞台劇, 這股能量, 去制止對女性的暴力?』
08:07
And we put on one event
in New York City, in the theater,
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於是, 我們在紐約舉行了一個活動, 在舞台上
08:10
and all these great actors
came -- from Susan Sarandon,
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很多出名的演員都來了 --- 由蘇珊薩蘭登,
08:13
to Glenn Close, to Whoopi Goldberg --
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到格倫克洛斯, 到胡比高拔 --- 我們做了這個演出
08:14
and we did one performance on one evening,
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這一個晚上, 也催生了這股旋風, 這股能量
08:17
and that catalyzed this wave, this energy.
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08:22
And within five years,
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就在接下來的五年間, 一些很不平凡的事情發生了
08:24
this extraordinary thing began to happen.
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08:26
One woman took that energy and she said,
"I want to bring this wave,
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一位女士接收了這份能量然後說: 『我想把這旋風,
08:30
this energy, to college campuses,"
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這能量, 帶到大學的校園裡』, 於是她負責了這個舞台劇
08:32
and so she took the play and she said,
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08:34
"Let's use the play and have
performances once a year,
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她也說: 『不如我們用這個演出,
08:37
where we can raise money
to stop violence against women
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每年一次的, 為這世上每一個當地的社群籌款
08:40
in local communities
all around the world."
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去制止對女性的暴力。』
08:42
And in one year, it went to 50 colleges,
and then it expanded.
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一年之內, 曾在五十間學院裡演出, 然後再擴大
08:46
And over the course of the last six years,
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在過去的六年之間, 它傳出去
08:48
it's spread and it's spread
and it's spread around the world.
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傳出去, 傳出去, 並且傳到全世界
08:52
What I have learned is two things:
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我在當中學到兩件事, 第一, 原來這場對女性暴力的疫情
08:56
one, that the epidemic of violence
towards women is shocking; it's global;
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是相當驚人的, 也是全球性的
09:02
it is so profound
and it is so devastating,
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它是如此的深刻, 也是如此的具有破壞力
09:04
and it is so in every little pocket
of every little crater,
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就好像我們的每個社會的口袋裡
09:07
of every little society
that we don't even recognize it,
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都有一座小火山, 我們甚至不曾發現它
09:09
because it's become ordinary.
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就是因為它是如此的普遍。這旅程把我帶到阿富汗
09:11
This journey has taken me to Afghanistan,
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09:14
where I had the extraordinary
honor and privilege
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隨著塔利班, 讓我有特殊的榮幸可以走到
09:17
to go into parts of Afghanistan
under the Taliban.
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阿富汗的內部---- 我穿著她們的布卡 (那種全身包裹的罩袍)
09:21
I was dressed in a burqa and I went in
with an extraordinary group,
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我也走進了那個不平凡的
09:25
called the Revolutionary Association
of the Women of Afghanistan.
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阿富汗婦女革命聯盟
09:28
And I saw firsthand
how women had been stripped
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於是, 我可以第一手的看到
09:32
of every single right that was possible
to strip women of --
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當地怎樣剝削婦女的每一個權利
09:36
from being educated, to being employed,
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由被剝削受教育, 被聘用, 甚至
09:38
to being actually allowed
to eat ice cream.
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被禁止吃冰淇淋
09:41
For those of you who don't know,
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也許你們都不知道, 在塔利班統治下吃冰淇淋是犯法的
09:43
it was illegal to eat ice cream
under the Taliban.
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09:45
And I actually saw and met
women who had been flogged
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我是真的看過婦女因為被捉到吃
09:49
for being caught eating vanilla ice cream.
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香草冰淇淋而受鞭笞
09:51
I was taken to the secret ice cream-eating
place in a little town,
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我曾被帶到一個在小城內秘密吃冰淇淋的地方
09:56
where we went to a back room,
and women were seated
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我們去到一個很隱蔽的房間, 跟著一群女人坐下
09:59
and a curtain was pulled around us,
and they were served vanilla ice cream.
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圍上了布簾, 於是她們便被分發了香草冰淇淋
10:02
And women lifted their burqas
and ate this ice cream.
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那些女人掀起了她們的面紗, 在吃她們自己的冰淇淋
10:06
And I don't think I ever understood
pleasure until that moment,
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直到那一刻, 我才明白她們的真正滿足
10:09
and how women have found a way
to keep their pleasure alive.
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以及她們怎樣去令自己的滿足能够實現出來
10:13
It has taken me, this journey,
to Islamabad,
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在這個旅程, 我到了伊斯蘭馬巴德
10:15
where I have witnessed and met women
with their faces melted off.
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我遇過看過那些臉容被毀的婦女
10:19
It has taken me to Juarez, Mexico,
where I was a week ago,
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一星期前, 我在墨西哥的華瑞茲城,
10:23
where I have literally been
there in parking lots,
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我在當地的停車場
10:25
where bones of women have washed up
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發現有女性的骨頭被清洗之後, 被丟棄在
10:27
and been dumped next to Coca-Cola bottles.
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一堆可樂樽的旁邊
10:31
It has taken me to universities
all over this country,
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我也去到很多的大學
10:34
where girls are date-raped and drugged.
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看到女孩子在約會當中被強姦和下毒
10:37
I have seen terrible, terrible,
terrible violence.
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我看過很恐佈, 很恐佈, 很恐佈的暴力
10:41
But I have also recognized,
in the course of seeing that violence,
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但我也發現, 在看到這些暴力的過程中
10:45
that being in the face of things
and seeing actually what's in front of us
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除了事情的表面之外, 我更真實的看到:
在面前的, 是對個人的抑鬱
10:49
is the antidote to depression,
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10:52
and to a feeling that one
is worthless and has no value.
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個人的沒價值感, 以及沒能力感的解藥
10:56
Because before the "Vagina Monologues,"
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因為在『陰道獨白』之前
10:58
I will say that 80 percent
of my consciousness was closed off
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我會說我八成的意識並沒有留意
11:01
to what was really going on
in this reality,
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現實中真正發生的事情
11:03
and that closing-off closed off
my vitality and my life energy.
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這種跟世界隔絕的情況也封閉了我的生命力和活力
11:08
What has also happened
is in the course of these travels --
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這旅程也真正的在影響著我 ---
11:11
and it's been an extraordinary thing --
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這是一件很不平凡的事-- 在世界上
11:14
is that every single place
that I have gone to in the world,
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每一個我去過的地方, 我都遇到新人類
11:17
I have met a new species.
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11:18
And I really love hearing about all
these species at the bottom of the sea.
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我是真的很喜歡聽到那些新人類他們藏在海底故事
11:22
And I was thinking about how being
with these extraordinary people
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我也在想, 怎樣可以把不同的陰道故事
配合到這地球上這群不平凡的人
11:25
on this particular panel,
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11:27
that it's beneath, beyond and between,
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她們之間, 以及她們所超越的
11:30
and the vagina kind of fits
into all those categories.
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不同的範疇。
11:33
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:34
But one of the things
I've seen is this species --
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但在這群新人類之中, 我看到一件事
11:37
and it is a species,
and it is a new paradigm,
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這是一種新的人類, 新的典範
11:39
and it doesn't get reported
in the press or in the media
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只是新聞或媒體沒有報導過
11:42
because I don't think
good news ever is news,
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因為我想好消息大概不是什麼的新聞吧
11:45
and I don't think people
who are transforming the planet
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同時我也想他們改變世界的故事
11:48
are what gets the ratings on TV shows.
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也大概不能為電視節目帶來高收視
11:51
But every single country I have been to --
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但每一個我去過的地方, 在過去的六年
11:53
and in the last six years,
I've been to about 45 countries,
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我曾去過四十五個國家, 城市和小鎮,
11:56
and many tiny little villages
and cities and towns --
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11:59
I have seen something what I've come
to call "vagina warriors."
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我曾見過那些我會稱為『陰道勇士』
12:03
A "vagina warrior" is a woman,
or a vagina-friendly man,
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『陰道勇士』可以是一個女人, 也可以是一個善待陰道的男人
12:07
who has witnessed incredible
violence or suffered it,
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他們看過, 或是經歷過暴力
12:10
and rather than getting an AK-47
or a weapon of mass destruction
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不是拿著AK-47手槍, 或是大規模破壞的武器
12:15
or a machete,
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也不是拿著大砍刀, 他們把暴力存在身體內
12:17
they hold the violence in their bodies;
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12:20
they grieve it; they experience it;
and then they go out
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他們為此傷痛, 他們經驗傷痛, 繼而他們走出去, 並且貢獻
12:24
and devote their lives to making sure
it doesn't happen to anybody else.
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自己的生命, 為的是讓這些暴力事情, 不要再在別人身上發生
12:28
I have met these women
everywhere on the planet,
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我在地球的每一個地方都遇見過這樣的女性
12:31
and I want to tell a few stories,
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我想講一些她們的故事, 因為我相信
12:33
because I believe that stories are the way
that we transmit information,
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故事是一種傳遞訊息的方法
12:37
where it goes into our bodies.
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能讓訊息走進我們的身體, 身同感受。我覺得自己
12:39
And I think one of the things about being
at TED that's been very interesting
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在TED 這裡, 有點有趣
12:43
is that I live in my body a lot,
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因為我是一個活在身體的人, 我是很少用腦來生活的
12:45
and I don't live in my head
very much anymore.
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12:47
And this is a very heady place.
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但這是一個十分有腦的地方
12:49
And it's been really interesting
to be in my head
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對我來說, 我覺得用腦的生活也真是特別
12:51
for the last two days;
I've been very disoriented --
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所以在過去的兩天, 我都是十分的迷失方向----
12:54
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
12:55
because I think the world, the V-world,
is very much in your body.
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因為我認為這個世界, 這個有關陰道的世界, 是屬於身體的
12:59
It's a body world, and the species
really exists in the body.
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這是一個身體的世界, 而人類是的確存在於身體之中
13:02
And I think there's a real significance
in us attaching our bodies to our heads,
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我想這也是十分重要的
讓我們的身體連接上我們的腦袋----因為這種分離
13:07
that that separation has created a divide
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會製造一種分裂, 這樣會令目標和動機變得不一致
13:10
that is often separating
purpose from intent.
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13:13
And the connection between body and head
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而身心合一才可以讓我們變得完整
13:17
often brings those things into union.
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13:19
I want to talk about three
particular people that I've met,
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我想談談我所遇過的三個特別的人物
13:22
vagina warriors, who really
transformed my understanding
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她們是『陰道勇士』, 她們改變了我對
13:26
of this whole principle and species,
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整件事, 以及對人類的理解
13:28
and one is a woman named Marsha Lopez.
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其中的一個女人名叫馬什洛佩茲
13:31
Marsha Lopez was a woman
I met in Guatemala.
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她是一個我在危地馬拉認識的女人
13:34
She was 14 years old,
and she was in a marriage
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她只有十四歲, 已婚
13:37
and her husband was beating her
on a regular basis.
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她的丈夫經常會虐打她
13:40
And she couldn't get out,
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但她不能離開他, 因為她已經沈溺在這關係裡
13:41
because she was addicted
to the relationship,
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13:44
and she had no money.
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而且她沒有錢。她的妹妹
13:45
Her sister was younger than her,
and she applied --
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13:47
we had a "Stop Rape" contest
a few years ago in New York --
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在數年前參加了我們一個在紐約舉辦的『終止強姦』的比賽--
13:52
and she applied, hoping
that she would become a finalist
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她參加了, 希望她能够進入決賽
13:55
and she could bring her sister.
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那她便可以帶她姊姊到來
13:56
She did become a finalist;
she brought Marsha to New York.
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她真的進入了決賽, 並且帶馬什來到了紐約
14:01
And at that time,
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就在這時, 我們在麥迪遜廣場做了一個十分特別的V日子活動
14:02
we did this extraordinary V-Day
at Madison Square Garden,
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整個熱鬧的場館, 擠滿了
14:04
where we sold out the entire
testosterone-filled dome --
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14:08
18,000 people standing up
to say "Yes" to vaginas,
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一萬八千人站在那裡
向陰道歡呼, 這真是一個美妙得難以置信的轉化
14:11
which was really a pretty
incredible transformation.
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14:14
And she came, and she witnessed this,
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馬什來到了, 她目睹了, 也決定了
14:16
and she decided that she would go back
and leave her husband,
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回去之後, 她便會離開她的丈夫
14:19
and that she would bring
V-Day to Guatemala.
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並且會把V日子帶到危地馬拉
14:21
She was 21 years old.
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當她二十一歲的時候, 我去了危地馬拉, 她讓整個
14:23
I went to Guatemala and she had sold out
the National Theater of Guatemala.
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危地馬拉國家大劇院都座無虛席
14:28
And I watched her walk up on stage
in her red short dress and high heels,
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我望著她穿了紅色的裙子走上台, 還有高跟鞋
14:32
and she stood there and said,
"My name is Marsha.
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她站在那裡, 她說: 『我的名字叫馬什
我被我的丈夫虐打了五年,
14:36
I was beaten by my husband for five years.
He almost murdered me.
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他差點殺了我, 我離開了, 你也可以。』
14:40
I left and you can, too."
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14:42
And the entire 2,000 people
went absolutely crazy.
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在場的二千人都為她變得瘋狂
14:46
There's a woman named Esther Chávez
who I met in Juarez, Mexico.
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這裡有一個女人名叫以斯帖
我在墨西哥的華瑞茲城遇到她的, 以斯帖
14:49
And Esther Chávez was
a brilliant accountant in Mexico City.
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是墨西哥城裡一個很出色的會計師, 她已經七十二歲了
14:53
She was 72 years old
and she was planning to retire.
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她亦打算退休
14:56
She went to Juarez
to take care of an ailing aunt,
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她去了華瑞茲城去照顧一個生病的姨姨, 在這個過程中
15:00
and in the course of it, she began
to discover what was happening
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她開始發現當地一些被殺
15:03
to the murdered and disappeared
women of Juarez.
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和失蹤女性的事
15:06
She gave up her life; she moved to Juarez.
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她放棄了她的生計, 她搬去了華瑞茲城
15:09
She started to write the stories
which documented the disappeared women.
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她開寫下及紀錄那些失蹤女人的故事
15:13
300 women have disappeared in a border
town because they're brown and poor.
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在這邊境的城市, 有三百個女人失蹤了
只因為她們是黑人, 以及貧窮
15:17
There has been no response
to the disappearance,
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對於她們的失蹤, 人們都沒有反應
15:19
and not one person
has been held accountable.
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也沒有人需要為這事負上責任
15:21
She began to document it.
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她開始去記錄這些事情, 她也開了一間中心名叫Casa Amiga,
15:23
She opened a center called
Casa Amiga, and in six years,
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15:26
she has literally brought this
to the consciousness of the world.
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六年裡, 她卒之
讓世界意識到當地的情況
15:30
We were there a week ago,
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我們在一星期前到了當地, 當時有七千人
15:31
when there were 7,000 people
in the street, and it was truly a miracle.
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就像我們一樣的走在街上, 這真是一個奇蹟
15:35
And as we walked through the streets,
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15:37
the people of Juarez, who normally
don't even come into the streets,
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一般來說, 華瑞茲城的人是不會上街的
15:40
because the streets are so dangerous,
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因為街上實在是太危險了, 他們就是站在街上, 哭著
15:42
literally stood there and wept,
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15:43
to see that other people
from the world had showed up
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的看到這世界上有其他人
15:46
for that particular community.
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竟然為這個特別的社區而出現
15:48
There's another woman, named Agnes.
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還有另外的一位女人名叫阿格尼斯, 而阿格尼斯, 對我來說
15:50
And Agnes, for me, epitomizes
what a vagina warrior is.
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她就是代表什麼是一個『陰道勇士』
15:55
I met her three years ago in Kenya.
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我三年前在肯雅認識她, 當她還是一個小女孩時,
15:58
And Agnes was mutilated as a little girl;
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16:01
she was circumcised against her will
when she was 10 years old,
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她被迫進行了女性的割禮
那時她只得十歲, 於是, 她認真的決定
16:05
and she really made a decision
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16:07
that she didn't want this practice
to continue anymore in her community.
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要讓這個習俗不要再在她的社區繼續下去
16:11
So when she got older,
she created this incredible thing:
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所以當她長大之後, 她做了這件驚人的事
16:14
it's an anatomical sculpture
of a woman's body, half a woman's body.
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這是一個解剖女性身體的雕塑, 是女性的半身,
16:19
And she walked through the Rift Valley,
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跟著她步行穿過大裂谷, 她帶著
16:21
and she had vagina
and vagina replacement parts,
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陰道和陰道的替代品, 這樣的, 她便開始
16:25
where she would teach girls
and parents and boys and girls
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教導女孩, 男孩和父母, 一個健康陰道的模樣,
16:27
what a healthy vagina looks like,
and what a mutilated vagina looks like.
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以及一個被割掉的陰道的模樣。
16:31
And in the course of her travel --
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16:33
she walked literally for eight years
through the Rift Valley,
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在她這八年走過裂谷的過程中,
16:36
through dust, through sleeping
on the ground,
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她經歷過沙塵, 經歷過睡在地上 --- 因為馬塞族人是遊牧民族,
16:38
because the Maasai are nomads,
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16:40
and she would have to find them,
and they would move,
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她需要去尋找他們, 因為族人經常遷徙,
16:44
and she would find them again --
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於是她又要去再找他們了--- 她共拯救了一千五百個女孩免去被割之苦
16:45
she saved 1,500 girls from being cut.
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16:48
And in that time, she created
an alternative ritual,
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當那些沒有被割的女孩, 到了差不多的年紀
16:51
which involved girls
coming of age without the cut.
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她也創立了另外一種儀式給她們
16:54
When we met her three years ago,
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當我們在三年前見到她的時候
16:57
we said, "What could V-Day do for you?"
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我們問: 『有什麼V日子可以為你做的?』
16:58
And she said, "Well, if you got me a jeep,
I could get around a lot faster."
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她說: 『好啊, 如果你們可以給我一輛吉普車, 那我便可以走得快一點。』
17:02
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
17:03
So we bought her a jeep.
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於是, 我們給她買了一輛吉普車。那她有了一輛車
17:04
And in the year that she had the jeep,
she saved 4,500 girls from being cut.
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她拯救了四千五百個女孩免於被割。於是, 我們跟她說:
17:09
So we said to her,
"What else could we do for you?"
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『阿格尼斯, 我們還有什麼可以給你做的呢?』, 她回答說:
17:12
She said, "Well, Eve,
if you gave me some money,
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『好啊, 依芙, 你知嗎? 如果你給我一些錢
17:14
I could open a house
and girls could run away,
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我可以開一個庇護之家, 那些女孩可以離家出走, 她們便可以被救了。』
17:16
and they could be saved."
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17:18
And I want to tell this little story
about my own beginnings,
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而我在分享我自己的故事之前, 跟你們分享了這些小故事
17:21
because it's very interrelated
to happiness and Agnes.
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是因為這些故事是跟快樂, 和跟阿格斯尼有關的
17:25
When I was a little girl --
I grew up in a wealthy community;
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當我還是一個小女孩, 我是在一個
很富有的社區長大的。這是中上階層的白人社區---
17:29
it was an upper-middle class
white community,
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17:32
and it had all the trappings and the looks
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這個假象外表是
很完美的, 宜人的, 精彩的, 偉大的生活
17:35
of a perfectly nice,
wonderful, great life.
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17:39
And everyone was supposed
to be happy in that community,
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好像每一個人在這裡都應該活得很快樂似的
17:41
and, in fact, my life was hell.
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但事實是, 我活在仿如地獄裡。我跟一個酗酒的爸爸住在一起
17:43
I lived with an alcoholic father
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17:45
who beat me and molested me,
and it was all inside that.
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他打我也非禮我, 而所有這些都是沒有曝光的
17:48
And always as a child I had this fantasy
that somebody would come and rescue me.
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我小時常幻想有人會出現來拯救我
17:53
And I actually made up a little character
whose name was Mr. Alligator.
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我事實上也創造了一個名叫鱷魚先生的角色
17:56
I would call him up
when things got really bad,
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當有壞事發生時, 我會呼叫他
17:59
and say it was time
to come and pick me up.
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我會告訴他是時候要來帶我走
18:01
And I would pack a little bag
and wait for Mr. Alligator to come.
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跟著, 我就會去執拾我的小行李, 等待鱷魚先生來救我
18:05
Now, Mr. Alligator never did come,
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直到現在, 鱷魚先生都沒有出現過
18:07
but the idea of Mr. Alligator coming
actually saved my sanity
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但鱷魚先生這意念卻讓我神志清醒
18:11
and made it OK for me to keep going,
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以及令我可以繼續活下去, 因為我相信
18:13
because I believed, in the distance,
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在某處, 將會有人會來拯救我
18:15
there would be someone
coming to rescue me.
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18:18
Cut to 40-some odd years later,
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回到四十多年後, 我們去到肯雅
18:20
we go to Kenya, and we're walking,
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我們到了這庇護之家開放的日子---
18:23
we arrive at the opening of this house.
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18:26
And Agnes hadn't let me come
to the house for days,
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只是阿格尼斯數日來都不讓我們走進屋內---
18:28
because they were preparing
this whole ritual.
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因為她們正準備整個的儀式
接著, 我想告訴你這個偉大的故事, 當阿格尼斯第一次
18:31
I want to tell you a great story.
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18:32
When Agnes first started fighting
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在她的社區中爭取停止女性的割禮
18:34
to stop female genital mutilation
in her community,
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18:36
she had become an outcast,
and she was exiled and slandered,
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她變成了一個被驅逐的人, 她被流亡, 被誹謗
18:40
and the whole community
turned against her.
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整個社區的人都針對她
18:42
But being a vagina warrior,
she kept going,
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但作為一個『陰道勇士』, 她沒有放棄
18:44
and she kept committing herself
to transforming consciousness.
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她繼續獻身去改變別人的觀念
18:48
And in the Maasai community,
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在馬塞社區, 羊和牛都他們視為最寶貴的財產
18:49
goats and cows are the most
valued possession.
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18:52
They're like the Mercedes-Benz
of the Rift Valley.
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就好像是大裂谷裡的賓士汽車一樣
18:57
And she said two days
before the house opened,
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據她說, 在庇護之家開放前兩天, 分別有兩個不同的人
18:59
two different people arrived
to give her a goat each,
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每人都給她送來了一頭羊, 接著她對我說:
19:02
and she said to me,
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19:03
"I knew then that female genital
mutilation would end one day in Africa."
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『我知道非洲有一天將不會再有女性的割禮。』
19:08
Anyway, we arrived, and when we arrived,
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不論怎的, 我們到了, 我們到了那裡
19:12
there were hundreds of girls
dressed in red homemade dresses --
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那裡有數以百計的女孩, 穿著紅色的, 自家做的裙子---
19:16
which is the color of the Maasai
and the color of V-Day --
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這是馬塞族的顏色, 也是V日子的顏色---
19:19
and they greeted us.
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她們在歡迎我們, 她們一邊唱一些
19:20
They had made up these songs
that they were singing,
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終止苦難, 終止割禮的曲子,
19:23
about the end of suffering
and the end of mutilation,
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一邊跟我們一起走過那些小徑
19:25
and they walked us down the path.
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19:27
It was a gorgeous day in the African sun,
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這是一個有著非洲太陽的燦爛晴天
19:29
and the dust was flying
and the girls were dancing,
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塵土在飛揚, 女孩在跳舞
19:32
and there was this house, and it said,
"V-Day Safe House for the Girls."
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以及這裡有一小屋, 上面寫著V日子女子安全之家
19:36
And it hit me in that moment
that it had taken 47 years,
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這刻讓我發現這四十七年後
19:42
but that Mr. Alligator
had finally shown up.
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鱷魚先生終於出現了
19:45
And he had shown up, obviously,
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他出現的方法, 明顯是讓我用許多時間去明白
19:47
in a form that it took me
a long time to understand,
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19:50
which is that when we give in the world
what we want the most,
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當我們為這世界付出
我們最想得到的東西, 其實我們也在治療自己內裡的那些破碎的部份
19:55
we heal the broken part inside each of us.
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19:59
And I feel, in the last eight years,
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我覺得在這過去八年的旅程裡
20:01
that this journey --
this miraculous vagina journey --
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這奇蹟般的陰道旅程之中
20:05
has taught me this really simple thing,
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教懂我這簡單的東西, 就是原來快樂存在於行動之中
20:07
which is that happiness exists in action;
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20:12
it exists in telling the truth
and saying what your truth is;
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它存在於說出真相, 和說出你自己的真相
20:16
and it exists in giving away
what you want the most.
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它存在於付出你最想得到的東西
20:20
And I feel that knowledge and that journey
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我覺得能够去經歷這些智慧
20:24
has been an extraordinary privilege,
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以及這樣的旅程, 實在是不平凡的榮幸
20:26
and I feel really blessed
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我為今天能跟你們分享, 感到十分感恩
20:28
to have been here today
to communicate that to you.
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20:30
Thank you very much.
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謝謝大家。
20:31
(Applause)
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