A forgotten Space Age technology could change how we grow food | Lisa Dyson

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Translator: 潘 可儿 Reviewer: Winnie Ling
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Imagine you are a part of a crew of astronauts
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想像一下你係去火星或者其他遙遠星球
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traveling to Mars or some distant planet.
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嘅其中一個宇航員
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The travel time could take a year
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旅程時間可能長達一年
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or even longer.
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或者甚至更長
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The space on board and the resources
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飛船上嘅空間同資源都受到限制
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would be limited.
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00:31
So you and the crew would have to figure out how to produce food
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所以你哋就要諗
點樣利用最少嘅原料去生產食物
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with minimal inputs.
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00:38
What if you could bring with you just a few packets of seeds,
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如果你只可以帶幾袋種子
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and grow crops in a matter of hours?
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喺幾個鐘裏面種出作物,會點?
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And what if those crops would then make more seeds,
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如果嗰啲作物可以生產更多嘅種子
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enabling you to feed the entire crew
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令你可以用其中嘅幾包種子
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with just those few packets of seeds for the duration of the trip?
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全程養活整個團隊,又會點?
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Well, the scientists at NASA actually figured out a way to do this.
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NASA 嘅科學家已經諗到可行嘅方法
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What they came up with was actually quite interesting.
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佢哋嘅諗法非常有趣
其中包括單細胞微生物
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It involved microorganisms,
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01:08
which are single-celled organisms.
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01:10
And they also used hydrogen from water.
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科學家同時運用水入面嘅氫氣
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The types of microbes that they used were called hydrogenotrophs,
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佢哋利用嘅微生物係氫營養菌
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and with these hydrogenotrophs, you can create a virtuous carbon cycle
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你可以利用呢啲氫營養菌創造一個
良性嘅碳循環,維持太空船上嘅生命
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that would sustain life onboard a spacecraft.
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01:26
Astronauts would breathe out carbon dioxide,
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宇航員會呼出二氧化碳
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that carbon dioxide would then be captured by the microbes
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二氧化碳會畀嗰啲微生物吸收
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and converted into a nutritious, carbon-rich crop.
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轉化成一種含有豐富營養同碳嘅作物
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The astronauts would then eat that carbon-rich crop
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之後宇航員食用嗰啲含豐富碳嘅作物
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and exhale the carbon out in the form of carbon dioxide,
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宇航員會以二氧化碳呼出
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which would then be captured by the microbes,
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又會畀微生物吸收
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to create a nutritious crop,
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生產新嘅營養作物
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which then would be exhaled in the form of carbon dioxide
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之後碳又會畀宇航員
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by the astronauts.
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以二氧化碳呼出
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So in this way, a closed-loop carbon cycle is created.
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咁樣就建立咗一個閉環碳循環
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So why is this important?
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點解呢樣嘢咁重要?
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We need carbon to survive as humans,
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我哋人類需要碳生存
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and we get our carbon from food.
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我哋從食物中獲取碳
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On a long space journey,
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喺漫長嘅太空旅途中
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you simply wouldn't be able to pick up any carbon along the way,
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根本就冇可能喺途中搵到碳
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so you'd have to figure out how to recycle it on board.
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所以你要諗點樣喺飛船上循環利用碳
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This is a clever solution, right?
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呢個係一個聰明嘅方法,係唔係?
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But the thing is, that research didn't really go anywhere.
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但問題係,呢個研究並冇實行過
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We haven't yet gone to Mars. We haven't yet gone to another planet.
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我哋未去過火星,亦未去過其他星球
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And this was actually done in the '60s and '70s.
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事實上呢個研究 喺 60、70 年代就已經完成
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So a colleague of mine, Dr. John Reed, and I,
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所以我同一個同事,John Reed 博士
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were interested, actually, in carbon recycling here on Earth.
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對地球上嘅碳循環好感興趣
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We wanted to come up with technical solutions
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我哋想搵到應對氣候變化嘅
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to address climate change.
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技術性解決方法
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And we discovered this research
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通過閱讀 1967 年及以後嘅論文
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by reading some papers published in the '60s -- 1967 and later --
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02:45
articles about this work.
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我哋發現咗呢個研究
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And we thought it was a really good idea.
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我哋覺得呢個真係一個好主意
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So we said, well, Earth is actually like a spaceship.
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我哋認為,地球就好似一艘太空船
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We have limited space and limited resources,
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我哋嘅空間、資源都有限
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and on Earth, we really do need to figure out
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喺地球上,我哋確實需要
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how to recycle our carbon better.
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思考點樣更有效去循環利用碳
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So we had the idea,
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所以我哋有一個諗法
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can we take some of these NASA-type ideas and apply them
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可唔可以將呢啲 NASA 式嘅主意
用嚟解決地球上嘅碳問題?
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to our carbon problem here on Earth?
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03:14
Could we cultivate these NASA-type microbes
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我哋可唔可以培養呢啲 NASA 式微生物
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in order to make valuable products here on Earth?
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用嚟喺地球上生產有價值嘅物品?
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We started a company to do it.
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我哋創立咗一間公司嚟研究
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And in that company, we discovered that these hydrogenotrophs --
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喺呢間公司,我哋發現呢啲氫營養菌
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which I'll actually call nature's supercharged carbon recyclers --
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事實上我叫佢哋
大自然嘅「強勁碳循環機」
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we found that they are a powerful class of microbes
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我哋發現佢哋係一種強大嘅微生物
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that had been largely overlooked and understudied,
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佢哋畀嚴重忽視、未被深入研究
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and that they could make some really valuable products.
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而且佢哋確實可以生產 一啲有價值嘅產物
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So we began cultivating these products, these microbes, in our lab.
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所以我哋開始喺實驗室
培養呢啲產物同微生物
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We found that we can make essential amino acids from carbon dioxide
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我哋發現可以利用呢啲微生物
將二氧化碳合成必需氨基酸
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using these microbes.
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And we even made a protein-rich meal
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我哋甚至可以製作蛋白質營養餐
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that has an amino acid profile similar to what you might find
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其中嘅必需氨基酸外形
同一啲動物蛋白質嘅氨基酸相似
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in some animal proteins.
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04:02
We began cultivating them even further,
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我哋開始更進一步培養
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and we found that we can make oil.
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發現我哋可以生產油
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Oils are used to manufacture many products.
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油可以用嚟大量生產好多產品
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We made an oil that was similar to a citrus oil,
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我哋生產咗一種類似檸檬油嘅油
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which can be used for flavoring and for fragrances,
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除咗可以摞嚟調味、製造香水
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but it also can be used as a biodegradable cleaner
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佢仲可以摞嚟做生物可降解清潔劑
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or even as a jet fuel.
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甚至係噴氣燃料
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And we made an oil that's similar to palm oil.
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跟住我哋又生產咗一種類似棕櫚油嘅油
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Palm oil is used to manufacture
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棕櫚油可以用嚟生產唔同嘅
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a wide range of consumer and industrial goods.
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消費品同工業品
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We began working with manufacturers to scale up this technology,
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我哋開始同製造商合作大量生產
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and we're currently working with them
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依家我哋合作
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to bring some of these products to market.
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將其中一啲產品推出市場
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We believe this type of technology can indeed help us
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我哋相信呢種技術可以幫助我哋
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profitably recycle carbon dioxide into valuable products --
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將二氧化碳有效轉化為有價值嘅產品
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something that's beneficial for the planet
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一啲同時對地球
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but also beneficial for business.
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同商業都有益嘅產品
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That's what we're doing today.
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呢啲就係我哋依家做緊嘅事
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But tomorrow, this type of technology and using these types of microbes
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但以後,如果我哋要更上一層
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actually could help us do something even greater
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呢種技術同呢種微生物嘅應用
會幫助我哋完成一啲更加偉大嘅事
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if we take it to the next level.
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We believe that this type of technology
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我哋相信呢種技術
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can actually help us address an issue with agriculture
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可以幫助我哋解決農業問題
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and allow us to create a type of agriculture that's sustainable,
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可以畀我哋發展出一種可持續農業
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that will allow us to scale to meet the demands of tomorrow.
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令我哋可以滿足到未來嘅要求
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And why might we need a sustainable agriculture?
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點解我哋需要一個可持續農業呢?
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Well, actually, it is estimated
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事實上,根據預測
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that the population will reach about 10 billion by 2050,
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到咗 2050 年
世界人口將會達到大概一百億
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and we're projecting that we will need to increase food production
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我哋預計糧食產量要提高70%
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by 70 percent.
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In addition, we will need many more resources and raw materials
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同時,我哋會需要更多嘅資源、原材料
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to make consumer goods and industrial goods.
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去生產消費品、工業品
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So how will we scale to meet that demand?
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咁我哋要點樣滿足呢個需求?
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Well, modern agriculture simply cannot sustainably scale to meet that demand.
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依家嘅現代農業滿足唔到呢個需求
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There are a number of reasons why.
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原因有好多
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One of them is that modern agriculture is one of the largest emitters
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其中一個就係現代農業
係溫室氣體嘅其中一個最大排放源
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of greenhouse gases.
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In fact, it emits more greenhouse gases
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事實上,佢溫室氣體嘅排放總量
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than our cars, our trucks, our planes
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比我哋嘅汽車、貨車、飛機
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and our trains combined.
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同埋火車嘅排放總量仲要大
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Another reason is that modern ag simply takes up a whole lot of land.
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另一個原因就係佢佔據咗大面積嘅土地
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We have cleared 19.4 million square miles for crops and livestock.
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我哋為作物、牲畜騰出咗
一千九百四十萬平方英里
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What does that look like?
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即係點樣?
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Well, that's roughly the size of South America and Africa combined.
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大概就係南美洲同非洲加起嚟咁大
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Let me give you a specific example.
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等我舉一個具體嘅例子
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In Indonesia, an amount of virgin rainforest was cleared
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喺印尼,從 2000 年到 2012 年
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totaling the size of approximately Ireland,
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大概有同成個愛爾蘭咁大嘅
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between 2000 and 2012.
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原始熱帶雨林畀移除咗
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Just think of all of the species, the diversity,
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我哋可以想像到
畀趕離家園嘅物種數量之大
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that was removed in the process,
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whether plant life, insects or animal life.
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植物、昆蟲、動物,無一倖免
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And a natural carbon sink was also removed.
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同時,一個天然碳匯都難逃一劫
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So let me make this real for you.
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咁等我講得更加真實一啲
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This clearing happened primarily to make room for palm plantations.
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呢次移除係為咗種植棕櫚樹
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And as I mentioned before,
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就好似我之前所講
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palm oil is used to manufacture many products.
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棕櫚油用於大量生產好多種產品
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In fact, it is estimated that over 50 percent of consumer products
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事實上,根據估計
超過 50% 嘅消費品都離不開棕櫚油
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are manufactured using palm oil.
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07:13
And that includes things like ice cream, cookies ...
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其中包括雪糕、曲奇
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It includes cooking oils.
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仲有食用油
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It also includes detergents, lotions, soaps.
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同埋清潔劑、乳液、肥皂
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You and I both probably have numerous items
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好可能你同我嘅廚房、浴室裏面
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in our kitchens and our bathrooms
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都有大量嘅由棕櫚油
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that were manufactured using palm oil.
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製成嘅生活用品
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So you and I are direct beneficiaries of removed rainforests.
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所以你同我都係 移除熱帶雨林嘅罪魁禍首
07:39
Modern ag has some problems,
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現代農業存在住一啲問題
07:41
and we need solutions if we want to scale sustainably.
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如果想可持續發展
我哋就需要解決方法
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I believe that microbes can be a part of the answer --
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我相信微生物可以提供答案
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specifically, these supercharged carbon recyclers.
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特別係呢種強勁嘅碳循環機
07:55
These supercharged carbon recyclers,
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呢種強勁嘅碳循環機
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like plants, serve as the natural recyclers
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比如植物,喺佢哋成長嘅生態系統中
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in their ecosystems where they thrive.
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扮演著「自然循環機」嘅角色
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And they thrive in exotic places on Earth,
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佢哋喺地球嘅特殊地貌生長
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like hydrothermal vents and hot springs.
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比如海底熱泉、溫泉
08:09
In those ecosystems, they take carbon and recycle it
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喺嗰啲生態系統,佢哋吸收碳
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into the nutrients needed for those ecosystems.
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將碳再生為生態系統所需嘅營養
08:15
And they're rich in nutrients,
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佢哋含有豐富營養
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such as oils and proteins, minerals and carbohydrates.
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譬如油脂、蛋白質 礦物質、碳水化合物
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And actually, microbes are already an integral part of our everyday lives.
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事實上,微生物已經成為
我哋日常生活嘅一部分
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If you enjoy a glass of pinot noir on a Friday night,
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如果辛苦工作咗一個漫長嘅星期
你喺星期五晚品嘗一杯葡萄酒
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after a long, hard work week,
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then you are enjoying a product of microbes.
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咁其實你就係品嘗緊微生物嘅產物
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If you enjoy a beer from your local microbrewery --
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如果你品嘗當地小型啤酒廠嘅一種啤酒
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a product of microbes.
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都係一種微生物嘅產物
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Or bread, or cheese, or yogurt.
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或者係麵包、芝士、酸奶
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These are all products of microbes.
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呢啲全部都係微生物嘅產物
08:49
But the beauty and power associated with these supercharged carbon recyclers
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但呢哋強勁碳循環機嘅魅力、力量在於
08:55
lies in the fact that they can actually produce in a matter of hours
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佢哋嘅生產力係數以小時計
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versus months.
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而唔係以月嚟計算
09:01
That means we can make crops
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咁就意味著我哋可以
09:03
much faster than we're making them today.
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以比依家更快嘅速度去種作物
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They grow in the dark,
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作物可以喺黑暗中生長
09:09
so they can grow in any season
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即係可以喺任何季節
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and in any geography and any location.
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任何地理環境、任何地方生長
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They can grow in containers that require minimal space.
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佢哋可以喺佔地最小嘅容器生長
09:19
And we can get to a type of vertical agriculture.
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咁我哋就可以開發一種垂直農業
09:23
Instead of our traditional horizontal agriculture
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同佔地廣闊嘅傳統水平農業唔同
09:26
that requires so much land,
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09:27
we can scale vertically,
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我哋可以向上發展
09:29
and as a result produce much more product per area.
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從而提高單位土地嘅產量
09:36
If we implement this type of approach and use these carbon recyclers,
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如果我哋利用呢啲碳循環機
實行呢種方法
09:40
then we wouldn't have to remove any more rainforests
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咁我哋就唔再需要為食物、消費品
09:43
to make the food and the goods that we consume.
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而移除任何熱帶雨林
09:48
Because, at a large scale,
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因為通過大規模種植
09:50
you can actually make 10,000 times more output per land area
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實際上你可以種出 – 比如種大豆
如果你喺同一片土地種植大豆
09:56
than you could -- for instance, if you used soybeans --
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一年之後
09:59
if you planted soybeans on that same area of land
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你會比原先得到多出一萬倍嘅單位產量
10:02
over a period of a year.
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10:04
Ten thousand times over a period of a year.
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一年時間收穫係比原先產量嘅一萬倍
10:08
So this is what I mean by a new type of agriculture.
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呢個就我所講嘅新型農業
10:12
And this is what I mean by developing a system
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呢個亦係我所講嘅發展一個系統
10:15
that allows us to sustainably scale to meet the demands of 10 billion.
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嚟滿足一百億人口需求嘅系統
10:22
And what would be the products of this new type of agriculture?
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咁呢種新型農業可以生產乜嘢?
10:26
Well, we've already made a protein meal,
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我哋已經整咗一種蛋白質餐
10:28
so you can imagine something similar to a soybean meal,
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咁你可以想像到一啲類似黃豆餐
10:31
or even cornmeal, or wheat flour.
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或者甚至係粟米粉、小麥麵粉嘅產品
10:34
We've already made oils,
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我哋已經生產咗油
10:35
so you can imagine something similar to coconut oil
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咁你可以想像一啲類似椰子油嘅產品
10:39
or olive oil or soybean oil.
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或者係橄欖油、大豆油
10:42
So this type of crop can actually produce the nutrients
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所以呢種作物實際上可以生產
富含營養嘅意大利麵、麵包
10:46
that would give us pasta and bread,
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10:48
cakes, nutritional items of many sorts.
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蛋糕、各種營養食品
10:52
Furthermore, since oil is used to manufacture multiple other goods,
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而且,既然油可以用嚟生產多種物品
10:59
industrial products and consumer products,
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工業品、消費品
11:01
you can imagine being able to make detergents, soaps, lotions, etc.,
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你可以想像利用呢種作物
都可以生產清潔劑、肥皂、乳液等等
11:06
using these types of crops.
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如果我哋繼續用依家嘅現代農業種植
11:09
Not only are we running out of space,
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11:12
but if we continue to operate under the status quo
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就唔單止面臨土地資源匱乏嘅問題
11:15
with modern agriculture,
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we run the risk of robbing our progeny of a beautiful planet.
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仲會有風險令我哋啲子孫
失去呢個美麗嘅星球
11:22
But it doesn't have to be this way.
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但係用新型農業就可以避免
11:24
We can imagine a future of abundance.
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我哋可以想像一個富足嘅未來
11:28
Let us create systems that keep planet Earth, our spaceship,
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等我哋嚟創造唔單止可以
避免地球毀滅、太空船墜毀
11:34
not only from not crashing,
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11:36
but let us also develop systems and ways of living
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仲可以發展造福我哋
11:40
that will be beneficial to the lives of ourselves
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以及 2050 年一百億人口生活嘅
11:44
and the 10 billion that will be on this planet by 2050.
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生態系統同生活方式
11:48
Thank you very much.
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好多謝大家
11:50
(Applause)
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