How Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google manipulate our emotions | Scott Galloway

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【本视频包含粗口 建议酌情观看】
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So, this is the first and the last slide
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这是在过去15年里
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each of my 6,400 students over the last 15 years has seen.
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我的6400名学生看到的第一张 也是最后一张幻灯片
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I do not believe you can build a multibillion-dollar organization
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我认为你不可能打造一家 价值数十亿美元的企业
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unless you are clear on which instinct or organ you are targeting.
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除非你知道瞄准的是 哪一种本能或者器官
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Our species has a need for a superbeing.
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我们人类对神明是有需求的
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Our competitive advantage as a species is our brain.
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而人类这一物种的优势在于大脑
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Our brain is robust enough to ask these really difficult questions,
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我们的大脑擅长提出 非常难的问题
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but, unfortunately, it doesn't have the processing power to answer them,
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但不幸的是 它并没有足够强大的 处理能力来回答这些问题
于是就产生了对神明的需求
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which creates a need for a superbeing
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that we can pray to and look to for answers.
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我们可以向他祈祷 希望得到答案
什么是祈祷
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What is prayer?
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Sending a query into the universe,
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祈祷就是把疑问送到天上
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and hopefully there's some sort of divine intervention --
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盼望有某位神明显灵
我们并不需要理解发生了什么
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we don't need to understand what's going on --
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只需要等这位全知全能的神明
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from an all-knowing, all-seeing superbeing
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that gives us authority that this is the right answer.
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告诉我们 这就是权威的正确答案
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"Will my kid be all right?"
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比如你担心 我的孩子会痊愈吗
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You have your planet of stuff,
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你有成堆的东西
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you have your planet of work,
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有做不完的工作
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you have your planet of friends.
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有一群好朋友
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If you have kids,
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你要是养过孩子就知道
一旦你的孩子脱离正轨
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you know that once something comes off the rails with your kids,
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everything melts,
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一切都完了
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in your universe to the Sun that is your kids.
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你的孩子就像是太阳 照亮你的世界
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"Will my kid be all right?"
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我的孩子会痊愈吗
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"Symptoms and treatment of croup" in the Google query box.
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哮吼的症状和治疗 出现在谷歌的搜索框中
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One in six queries presented to Google have never been asked before
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谷歌收到的提问中 有六分之一
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in the history of mankind.
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以前从未被人问过
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What priest, teacher, rabbi, scholar, mentor, boss has so much credibility
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什么样的神职人员 教师 拉比 学者 导师 老板有如此的威信
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that one in six questions posed to that person
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以至于六分之一向这个人提出的问题
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have never been asked before?
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是从未曾被问过的问题
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Google is our modern man's God.
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谷歌是我们现代人的神明
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Imagine your face and your name above everything you've put into that box,
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想象一下你在谷歌搜索框中 输入的各种信息 包括姓名 头像
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and you're going to realize you trust Google more than any entity
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你会发现 你相信谷歌胜过你生命中的
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in your history.
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一切
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Let's move further down the torso.
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让我们顺着躯干往下走
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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One of the other wonderful things about our species
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我们人类还有一件特别美妙的事情
就是我们不仅需要爱 也需要给予爱
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is we not only need to be loved, but we need to love others.
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Children with poor nutrition but a lot of affection
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营养不良但是 获得很多关爱的孩子
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have better outcomes than children with good nutrition and poor affection.
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会比那些营养均衡 却缺乏关爱的孩子更能健康成长
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However, the best signal that you might make it
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目前世界人口老龄化速度飞快
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to be part of the number-one fastest growing demographic in the world --
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而要想判断你是否
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centenarians, people who live to triple digits --
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也能长命百岁
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there are three signals.
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有三个重要的信号
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In reverse order: your genetics -- not as important as you'd like to think,
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按从弱到强排 你的基因 并没有你想象的那么重要
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so you can continue to treat your body like shit
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所以你可以继续糟蹋自己的身体
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and think, "Oh, Uncle Joe lived to 95,
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并且想着 乔伊大叔活到了95岁
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the die have been cast."
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死亡是注定的
基因并没有你想象的那么重要
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It's less important than you think.
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第二个是生活方式
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Number two is lifestyle.
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不抽烟 控制体重 定期体检
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Don't smoke, don't be obese, and prescreen --
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get rid of about two-thirds of early cancers
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可以避免患上三分之二的早期癌症
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and cardiovascular disease.
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和心血管疾病
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The number one indicator or signal that you'll make it to triple digits:
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而使你能长命百岁的头号指标
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How many people do you love?
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是你关爱的人有多少
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Caretaking is the security camera --
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关爱好比监控摄像头
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we call the low-resolution security camera in our brain --
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我们称之为大脑里的 低分辨率监控摄像头
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deciding whether or not you are adding value.
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决定你是否能多活几年
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Facebook taps into our instinctive need not only to be loved,
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我们不只是需要爱 也需要关爱他人 脸书正是利用了
我们这一本能
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but to love others,
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mostly through pictures that create empathy,
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主要是通过照片引起我们的共鸣
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catalyze and reinforce our relationships.
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催生和巩固我们之间的关系
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Let's continue our journey down the torso.
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让我们继续顺着躯干往下
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Amazon is our consumptive gut.
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亚马逊直击我们的消费本能
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The instinct of more is hardwired into us.
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渴望拥有更多是我们的内在本性
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The penalty for too little is starvation and malnutrition.
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拥有太少会造成饥饿和营养不良
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Open your cupboards, open your closets,
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打开你的食橱和衣柜
你会发现拥有的 是你需要的十倍乃至百倍
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you have 10 to 100x times what you need.
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Why?
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为什么
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Because the penalty for too little is much greater
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因为拥有太少比拥有更多
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than the penalty for too much.
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得到的不良影响更严重
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So "more for less" is a business strategy that never goes out of style.
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因此 更多商品更低价格 是个永不过时的商业策略
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It's the strategy of China,
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中国奉行这一策略
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it's a the strategy of Walmart,
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沃尔玛奉行这一策略
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and now it's the strategy of the most successful company in the world,
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而如今世界上最成功的企业 亚马逊
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Amazon.
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也奉行了这一策略
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You get more for less into your gut;
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你把 更多商品更低价格 变成直觉
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digest, send it to your muscular and skeletal system of consumption.
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将之消化并输送到你那控制消费的 肌肉和骨骼系统中去
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Moving further,
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更进一步
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once we know we will survive, the basic instinct,
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一旦我们解决了生存问题
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we move to the second most powerful instinct,
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我们便开始考虑第二强大的本能
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and that is to spread and select the strongest, smartest and fastest seed
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即挑选最强大 最聪明 最迅速的种子
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to the four corners of the earth,
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四海播种 繁衍后代
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or pick the best seed.
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或是选取最好的种子
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This is not a timepiece.
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我手上这只表 不是用来看时间的
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I haven't wound it in five years.
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我有五年没给表上发条了
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It's my vain attempt to say to people,
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这只是我吸引异性的徒劳尝试
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"If you mate with me, your children are more likely to survive
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和与戴着斯沃琪手表的人睡相比
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than if you mate with someone wearing a Swatch watch."
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你和我睡生的孩子更有可能存活下来
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
商业的核心在于利用 人类不理性的一面
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The key to business is tapping into the irrational organs.
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"Irrational" is Harvard Business School's and New York Business School's term
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对哈佛商学院或者 纽约商学院的人来说
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for fat profit margins and shareholder value.
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不理性 基本就是丰厚利润 和超高股价的代名词
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"High-caloric paste for your children."
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(广告主题)给孩子高卡路里的食物吧
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No?
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不需要吗?
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You love your choosy mom.
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你的孩子爱挑剔的妈妈
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Why choosy moms choose Jif: you love your kids more.
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为什么挑剔的妈妈选择Jif花生酱 因为你比别人更爱你的孩子
从第二次世界大战起 到谷歌诞生以前
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The greatest algorithm for shareholder creation from World War II
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最伟大的创造股价的算法
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to the advent of Google
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was taking an average product and appealing to people's hearts.
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就是用煽情的营销手段 推销普通的产品
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You're a better a mom, a better person, a better patriot
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如果你是个好妈妈 好公民
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if you buy this average soap versus this average soap.
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就请你买这块很普通的香皂 而不是那块很普通的香皂
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Now, the number one algorithm for shareholder value isn't technology.
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如今 创造股价的 头号算法不是科技
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Look at the Forbes 400.
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来看看福布斯400富豪榜
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Take out inherited wealth, take out finance.
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刨掉那些富二代 刨掉那些搞金融的
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The number one source of wealth creation:
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创造财富的头号秘诀便是
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appealing to your reproductive organs.
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让消费者用下半身思考
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The Lauders; the number one wealthiest man in Europe, LVMH.
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兰黛家族 欧洲 首富路威酩轩集团
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Numbers two and three: H&M and Inditex.
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H&M服饰和Inditex分居二三位
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You want to target the most irrational organs for shareholder value.
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要想创造股价你就得 瞄准最不理性的器官
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As a result, these four companies -- Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google --
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结果这四大公司 苹果 亚马逊 脸书和谷歌
便联手主宰了我们的生活
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have disarticulated who we are.
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God, love, consumption, sex.
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神明 爱情 消费 性欲
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The proportion in your approach to those things is who you are,
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每个人的生活中这四项 占据的比例各不相同
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and they have reassembled who we are in the form of for-profit companies.
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而现在它们化身四家营利性公司 重新组成了我们的生活内容
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At the end of the Great Recession,
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在经济大衰退末期
这些公司的市场资本总额
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the market capitalization of these companies was equivalent
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to the GDP of Niger.
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与尼日利亚的GDP相当
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Now it is equivalent to the GDP of India,
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而现在它相当于印度的GDP
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having blown past Russia and Canada in '13 and '14.
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分别在2013年和2014年 超过了俄罗斯和加拿大
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There are only five nations
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只有五个国家的GDP
超过了这四家公司市场资本总额的
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that have a GDP greater than the combined market capitalization
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of these four firms.
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总和
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Something is happening, though.
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然而 有些事正在发生
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The conversation just a year ago was, which CEO was more Jesus-like?
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仅一年前 人们还在谈论 哪个CEO更像拯救世人的上帝
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Who was running for president?
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谁在竞选总统
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Now the worm has turned.
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如今情形大变
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Everything they're doing is bothering us.
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它们做的事情件件恼人
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We're worried they're tax avoiders.
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我们担心它们逃税
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Walmart, since the Great Recession, has paid 64 billion dollars
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自经济大衰退开始 沃尔玛共缴纳了
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in corporate income tax;
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640亿美元的公司所得税
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Amazon has paid 1.4.
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而亚马逊才缴纳了14亿
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How do we pay our firefighters, our soldiers and our social workers
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如果这些世界上最成功的公司 不缴纳它们应缴的合理税款
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if the most successful companies in the world don't pay their fair share?
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我们用什么来给我们的消防员 战士和社工们发薪水
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Pretty easy.
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很简单
那意味着不那么成功的公司
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That means the less successful companies have to pay
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需要多交税
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more than their fair share.
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(假装对亚马逊智能语音助理) Alexa 这是好事吗
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Alexa, is this a good thing?
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This is despite that fact --
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尽管实际情况是
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(Laughter)
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(大笑)
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This is despite the fact
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尽管实际情况是
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that Amazon has added the entire market capitalization of Walmart
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在过去19个月里 亚马逊的市值增加的数额
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to its market cap in the last 19 months.
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是整个沃尔玛的市场资本总额
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Whose fault is it? It's our fault.
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这是谁的错 是我们的错
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We're electing regulators who don't have the backbone
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我们选出的监管者 腰杆儿不够硬
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to actually go after these companies.
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管不了这些公司
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Facebook lies to EU regulators
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脸书向欧盟监管部门撒谎说
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and says, "It would be impossible for us to share the data
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我们不可能在核心平台 和提议并购的WhatsApp
之间分享数据
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between our core platform and our proposed acquisition of WhatsApp.
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Approve the merger."
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请批准这项并购
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They approve the merger and then -- spoiler alert! -- they figure it out.
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欧盟批准了并购 紧接着 剧透预警在此 他们回过味儿来了
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And the EU says, "I feel lied to.
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欧盟说 我觉得你们撒了谎
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We're fining you 120 [million] dollars,"
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我们要罚你1.2亿美金
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about .6 percent of the acquisition price of 19 billion dollars.
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而并购花了190亿美金 罚款只占了0.6%
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If Mark Zuckerberg could take out an insurance policy
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如果 马克·扎克伯格 能购买一份保险
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that the acquisition would go through for .6 percent,
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花0.6%的保费确保并购成功实现
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wouldn't he do it?
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他会不那么做吗
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Anticompetitive behavior.
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而谷歌的垄断行为
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A two-and-a-half-billion-dollar fine,
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被欧盟罚款25亿美金
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three billion of the cash flow,
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30亿的现金流
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three percent of the cash on Google's balance sheet.
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只占了谷歌资产负债表上的3%。
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We are telling these companies, "The smart thing to do,
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我们正告诉这些公司 要想把股价拉上去
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the shareholder-driven thing to do,
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就得学机灵点儿
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is to lie and to cheat."
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该撒谎就得撒谎
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We are issuing 25-cent parking tickets
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我们使用一个每小时费用为
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on a meter that costs 100 dollars an hour.
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100美金的仪器来开 25美分的停车罚款单
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The smart thing to do is lie.
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聪明的做法就是撒谎
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Job destruction!
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Amazon only needs one person for two at Macy's.
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亚马逊所需的员工数量 只是梅西百货公司的一半
08:02
If they grow their business 20 billion dollars this year, which they will,
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如果今年他们的业务 增长200亿美元 这应该没什么难度
那么我们将失去53000名 收银员和百货公司职员
08:06
we will lose 53,000 cashiers and clerks.
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This is nothing unusual;
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这毫不罕见
08:09
this has happened all through our economy,
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这种情况贯穿我们的整个经济
08:12
we've just never seen companies this good at it.
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我们只是从没看到 如此擅长于此的公司
08:14
That's one Yankee Stadium of workers.
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那些失业的工人可以 装满整个洋基体育馆
08:16
It's even worse in media.
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媒体行业更糟
08:18
If Facebook and Google grow their businesses
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如果脸书和谷歌的业务
今年能增长220亿美金 他们也能做到
08:20
22 billion dollars this year, which they will,
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we're going to lose approximately 150,000 creative directors,
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我们将失去近15万的创意总监
08:26
planners and copywriters.
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策划和文案
08:28
Or we can fill up two-and-a-half Yankee Stadiums
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我们用他们装满 两个半的洋基体育馆
08:30
and say, "You are out of work, courtesy of Amazon."
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告诉他们 拜亚马逊所赐 你们失业了
目前我们获得的绝大部分新闻 是来自社交媒体推送
08:34
We now get the majority of our news from our social media feeds,
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08:37
and the majority of our news coming off of social media feeds is ...
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而我们从社交媒体推送 获得的新闻多数是
08:41
fake news.
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虚假新闻
08:42
(Laughter)
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(大笑)
08:44
I am not allowed to be political or use curse words,
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我不能在课堂上谈政治 或说话带脏字
08:48
or talk about religion in class,
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或谈论宗教
08:49
so I can definitely not say,
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所以我绝不能说
08:53
"Zuckerberg has become Putin's bitch."
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扎克伯格成了普京的小贱人
08:56
I definitely cannot say that.
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我真是 非常不敢说 啊
08:58
(Laughter)
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(大笑)
08:59
Their defense:
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他们反驳说
09:00
"Facebook is not a media company; it's a technology company."
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脸书不是一个媒体公司 是个科技公司
09:03
You create original content,
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你创建原创内容
09:05
you pay sports leagues to give you original content,
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你付钱给各大体育联赛 让他们提供原创内容
09:08
you run advertising against it -- boom! -- you're a media company.
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你再在这些内容上投放广告 那你的确就是媒体公司
09:11
Just in the last few days,
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就在几天前
09:13
Sheryl Sandberg has repeated this lie, that "We are not a media company."
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雪莉桑德伯格 重申了这个谎言 我们不是媒体公司
09:17
Facebook has openly embraced the margins of celebrity
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脸书公开地通过名人效应
09:21
and the influence of a media company
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和媒体公司的影响力赚取价值
09:23
yet seems to be allergic to the responsibilities
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然而似乎却对媒体公司的责任
09:27
of a media company.
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一事极其反感
09:29
Imagine McDonald's.
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想想麦当劳吧
09:31
We find 80 percent of their beef is fake,
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我们发现他们的牛肉 有80%都是假的
09:33
and it's giving us encephalitis,
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会让人们患上脑炎
09:35
and we're making terrible decisions.
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而我们却做出了糟糕的决定
09:37
And we say, "McDonald's, we're pissed off!"
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说 麦当劳 我们很生气
09:40
And they say, "Wait, wait --
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他们说 且慢 且慢
09:43
we're not a fast-food restaurant,
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我们不生产快餐
09:45
we're a fast-food platform."
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我们只是快餐的搬运工
09:47
(Laughter)
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(大笑)
09:50
These companies and CEOs wrap themselves
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这些公司和它们的CEO们把自己
09:52
in a neon-blue pink rainbow and blue blanket
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包装成神仙模样 披着艳丽的彩虹下凡人间
09:56
to create an illusionist trick from their behavior each day,
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用魔术般的幻像 掩盖他们的日常行径
09:59
which is more indicative of the spawn of Darth Vader and Ayn Rand.
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星球大战里的黑武士 下凡时也不过如此
10:04
Why? Because we as progressives are seen as nice but weak.
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为什么 因为我们越来越 被看作软弱的老好人
10:09
If Sheryl Sandberg had written a book on gun rights
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如果 雪莉·桑德伯格 写了 一本关于公民持枪权利
10:12
or on the pro-life movement,
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或反堕胎运动的书
10:14
would they be flying Sheryl to Cannes?
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那么她还会被邀请飞去戛纳吗
10:17
No.
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不会的
我并不怀疑他们渐进的价值观
10:19
And I'm not doubting their progressive values,
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但他们的价值观核心都是股价
10:21
but it foots to shareholder value,
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10:23
because we as progressives are seen as weak.
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因为我们的形象越来越软弱
10:25
They're so nice -- remember Microsoft?
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而他们却一脸无辜 记得微软吗
10:27
They didn't seem as nice,
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他们的公众形象 包装得似乎不太好
10:29
and regulators stepped in much earlier than the regulators now,
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所以那时监管部门介入很快
10:33
who would never step in on those nice, nice people.
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而如今的监管部门绝不会 去干涉那些善意的公众楷模
10:37
I'm about to get on a plane tonight,
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今晚我要乘坐飞机
10:39
and I'm going to have a guy named Roy from TSA molest me.
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如果有人怀疑我酒驾回家
10:41
If I am suspected of a DUI on the way home,
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运输管理局会派一个 叫罗伊的人骚扰我
可能还需要对我抽血检查
10:45
I can have blood taken from my person.
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10:48
But wait! Don't tap into the iPhone --
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但且慢 禁止动iPhone
10:51
it's sacred.
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它可是神圣不可侵犯的
10:53
This is our new cross.
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这是我们的新十字架
10:54
It shouldn't be the iPhone X,
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新款苹果手机与其说是iPhone X
10:56
it should be called the "iPhone Cross."
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不如说是名副其实的 iPhone十字架
10:58
We have our religion; it's Apple.
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我们有至高无上的宗教 苹果神教
11:00
Our Jesus Christ is Steve Jobs,
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我们的教主是 史蒂夫·乔布斯
11:02
and we've decided this is holier than our person, our house
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我们视其为至高神圣 超过了我们的房屋和电脑
11:05
or our computer.
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甚至超过了我们自己
11:06
We have become totally out of control
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我们完全失控了
11:09
with the gross idolatry of innovation and of youth.
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迷失在对于创新和 青春的盲目崇拜中
11:13
We no longer worship at the altar of character,
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我们不再追寻勇气
11:15
of kindness,
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仁爱
11:16
but of innovation and people who create shareholder value.
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而是一味追寻创新 崇拜那些创造股价的人
11:20
Amazon has become so powerful in the marketplace,
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亚马逊在市场上变得强大非凡
11:23
it can conduct Jedi mind tricks.
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它对我们进行精神控制
11:24
It can begin damaging other industries just by looking at them.
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浏览它们就已经开始 破坏其他行业了
11:27
Nike announces they're distributing on Amazon, their stock goes up,
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耐克宣布 他们开始在亚马逊上 销售 股价便升上去了
11:31
every other footwear stock goes down.
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所有其他的鞋类企业股价下跌
每当亚马逊的股价上升 其他零售商的股价便会下跌
11:33
When Amazon stock goes up, the rest of retail stocks go down,
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因为股民相信所有对于亚马逊好的 东西对于其他人都是坏的
11:36
because they assume what's good for Amazon is bad for everybody else.
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当并购全食超市的时候 鮭魚的成本被削减了33%
11:39
They cut the cost on salmon 33 percent when they acquired Whole Foods.
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11:43
In between the time they announced the acquisition of Whole Foods
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在他们宣布并购全食超市开始
11:46
and when it closed,
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到并购结束期间
美国最大的食品销售 专营公司克罗格
11:48
Kroger, the largest pure-play grocer in America,
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11:50
shed a third of its value,
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股价跌了1/3
11:52
because Amazon purchased a grocer one-eleventh the size of Kroger.
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就是因为亚马逊吃下了这家 规模占克罗格1/11的食品销售商
我非常幸运
11:59
I got very lucky.
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12:00
I predicted the acquisition of Whole Foods by Amazon
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我预测到了亚马逊 对全食超市的收购
12:03
the week before it happened.
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就在收购发生前的那周
我在媒体上公开扬言
12:05
This is me boasting; I said this publicly in the media.
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12:07
This was the largest acquisition in their history,
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这是他们历史上最大规模的并购
他们之前从没有做过 十亿美元以上的并购
12:10
they'd never made an acquisition over a billion,
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人们问我 你是怎么知道的
12:12
and people asked, "How did you know this?"
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我现在就向各位了不起的观众来揭秘
12:14
So I'm letting this very impressive audience in on the secret.
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我是怎么知道的
12:18
How did I know this?
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12:19
I'm going to tell you how I knew.
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让我来告诉你我是怎么知道的
12:21
I bark at Alexa all day long
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我整天的对着Alexa大吼大叫
12:24
and try to figure out what's going on.
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想知道这是怎么一回事
(演讲者) Alexa 买点儿全脂牛奶
12:26
(Scott Galloway) Alexa, buy whole milk.
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12:29
(Alexa) I couldn't find anything for whole milk,
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(Alexa) 我找不到 全脂牛奶 的搜索结果
12:31
so I've added whole milk to your shopping list.
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所以我把全脂牛奶 加进了你的购物清单
12:34
SG: Then I asked,
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演讲者:接下来我问
12:35
(SG) Alexa, buy organic foods.
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(演讲者) Alexa 买点儿有机食物
12:38
(Alexa) The top search result for organic food
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(Alexa) 有机食物的搜索结果首位
是Plum Organics婴儿食品 香蕉和南瓜口味
12:41
is Plum Organics baby food, banana and pumpkin,
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12包装 每包4盎司
12:44
12-pack of four ounces each.
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12:46
It's 15 dollars total.
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共15美元
12:48
Would you like to buy it?
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你想要买吗
12:49
SG: And then, as often happens at my age,
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演讲者:然后 就像到我 这个年龄的人一样
12:51
I got confused.
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我被弄糊涂了
12:52
(SG) Alexa, buy whole foods.
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(演讲者) Alexa 买些 全食
12:56
(Alexa) I have purchased the outstanding stock of Whole Foods Incorporated
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(Alexa) 我已经购入了 全食超市未售出的股票
12:59
at 42 dollars per share.
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每股价格为42美元
13:01
I have charged 13.7 billion to your American Express card.
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我已从你的美国运通卡上 划掉了137亿美金
13:05
(Laughter)
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(大笑)
13:07
SG: I thought that'd be funnier.
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演讲者:大伙儿笑点很高啊
13:09
(Laughter)
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(大笑)
13:11
We've personified these companies,
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我们把这些公司拟人化了
13:12
and just as when you're really angry over every little thing someone does
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当你对人生中发生的种种小事 人际关系中的种种波澜
都气愤不已的时候
13:16
in your life and relationships,
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13:17
you've got to ask yourself,
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你需要问你自己
这到底是怎么回事儿 为什么我们对科技如此失望
13:19
"What's going on here? Why are we so disappointed in technology?"
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我认为那是因为过去发展科技
13:22
I believe it's because the ratio of one-percent pursuit
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13:24
of shareholder value
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99%是为人类造福
只有1%是为了挣钱
13:26
and 99 percent the betterment of humanity
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13:28
that technology used to play
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而这二者的比例
13:29
has been flipped,
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如今却颠倒了
如今我们全身心地关心股价 没人关注人道主义
13:31
and now we're totally focused on shareholder value instead of humanity.
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13:34
One hundred thousand people came together for the Manhattan Project
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10万人携手参与了曼哈顿项目
名副其实地拯救了世界
13:37
and literally saved the world.
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是科技拯救了世界
13:39
Technology saved the world.
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我的妈妈是犹太人 战争爆发的 时候她才四岁 住在伦敦
13:40
My mother was a four-year-old Jew living in London at the outset of the war.
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如果我们没有成功造出原子弹
13:44
If we had not won the footrace towards splitting the atom,
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13:47
would she have survived?
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她能活下来吗
13:49
It's unlikely.
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不太可能
13:50
Twenty-five years later,
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25年之后
13:52
the most impressive accomplishment, arguably, ever in all of humankind:
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对于全人类可能是 最令人瞩目的成就
13:56
put a man on the moon.
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把人类送上月球
13:57
Four hundred thirty thousand Canadians, British and Americans came together,
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43万名加拿大人 英国人 和美国人联手
再一次用非常基础的科技
14:01
again, with very basic technology,
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14:03
and put a man on the moon.
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把人送上了月球
14:04
Now we have the 700,000 best and brightest,
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如今我们有70万人才
14:08
and these are the best and brightest from the four corners of the earth.
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他们来自五湖四海 各个才华出众
14:11
They are literally playing with lasers relative to slingshots,
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和前人手中的弹弓和水枪比起来
14:15
relative to the squirt gun.
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他们玩的可是激光大炮
他们的工作目标相当于印度的GDP
14:17
They have the GDP of India to work at.
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14:19
And after studying these companies for 10 years,
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研究这些公司10年之后
我终于看清了他们的真面目
14:22
I know what their mission is.
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14:23
Is it to organize the world's information?
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是将全世界信息组织整理起来吗
14:26
Is it to connect us?
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是让人和人加强交流吗
14:27
Is it to create greater comity of man?
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是为建立人与人间更多的尊敬友爱吗
14:30
It isn't.
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并非如此
我知道为何我们汇聚在此
14:32
I know why we have brought together --
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14:33
I know that the greatest collection of IQ capital and creativity,
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这些公司聚集了最伟大的 高智商创新人才
14:38
that their sole mission is:
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可唯一的目标却是
14:40
to sell another fucking Nissan.
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多特么卖出一辆尼桑车
14:42
My name is Scott Galloway, I teach at NYU, and I appreciate your time.
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我是Scott Galloway 在纽约大学任教 谢谢各位的时间
(掌声)
14:46
(Applause)
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14:54
Chris Anderson: Not planned,
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Chris Anderson: 我没有准备
但你的演讲引起了 我的几个问题 Scott
14:56
but you prompted some questions in me, Scott.
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14:59
(Laughter)
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(大笑)
15:00
That was a spectacular rant.
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这场激情澎湃的演说令人惊叹
15:02
SG: Is this like Letterman?
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演讲者:像Letterman是吗 (午夜的幽默谈话节目主持人)
15:03
When you do well, he calls you onto the couch?
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你做的好 他就让你坐上沙发
15:06
CA: No, no, you're going to the heart of the conversation right now.
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CA:不是 不是 现在谈话的核心部分才开始
15:10
Everyone's aware that after years of worshipping Silicon Valley,
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每个人都知道 多年来 硅谷一直令人极其崇拜
15:16
suddenly the worm has turned
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现在突然风向转了
15:18
and in such a big way.
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而且转变很大
15:20
To some people here, it will just feel like you're piling on,
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对于某些观众而言 感觉你可能言过其实
15:23
you're kicking the kids who've already been kicked to pieces anyway.
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这些公司已经被骂得体无完肤 你却还要再指责他们
难道你对它们没有感到一丝同情吗
15:27
Don't you feel any empathy for them at all?
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SG: None whatsoever.
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SG:丝毫没有
15:31
Look, this is the issue:
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问题是这样:
15:33
it's not their fault, it's our fault.
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这不是他们的错误 而是我们的错误
15:35
They're for-profit companies.
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他们是逐利的公司
15:37
They're not concerned with the condition of our souls.
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他们不关心我们的灵魂
也不会帮我们养老
15:40
They're not going to take care of us when we get older.
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15:42
We have set up a society that values shareholder value over everything,
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我们创建了新的社会风气 重视股价胜过一切
15:46
and they're doing what they're supposed to be doing.
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他们不过是做了该做的而已
但我们需要选拔一批监管者
15:49
But we need to elect people,
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and we need to force ourselves to force them
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并狠下决心去强迫他们
15:52
to be subject to the same scrutiny
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对所有公司一视同仁
严格监察 没得商量
15:54
that the rest of business endures, full stop.
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15:56
CA: There's another narrative
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CA:你说的还有另一点
15:58
that is arguably equally consistent with the facts,
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是否与事实相符也值得商榷
16:01
which is that there actually is good intent in much of the leadership --
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那就是大多数领导者的意图 实际上都是好的
16:08
I won't say everyone, necessarily --
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我不能一概而论说每个人如此
16:10
many of the employees.
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但很多的员工都是好的
我们都认识在这些公司工作的人
16:12
We all know people who work in those companies,
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16:15
and they still are pretty convincing that their mission is to --
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他们仍然会让人相信 他们的使命是
16:18
so, the alternative narrative is that there have been
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另一种说法可以是
16:22
unintended consequences here,
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无心的后果
16:24
that the technologies that we're unleashing,
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突然迸发的这些科技力量
16:26
the algorithms, that we're attempting to personalize the internet, for example,
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比如 我们试图将互联网 拟人化的算法 例如
A 导致了我们没有预料到的奇怪后果
16:31
have A, resulted in weird effects like filter bubbles
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that we weren't expecting;
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比如过滤气泡 (个人化资料过滤)
16:38
and B, made themselves vulnerable to weird things like --
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和B 令他们很容易被奇怪的 事情入侵 例如
16:41
oh, I don't know, Russian hackers creating accounts
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我也不确定 比如 俄罗斯黑客建立帐号
16:44
and doing things that we didn't expect.
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做些我们意料之外的事情
16:46
Isn't the unintended consequence a possibility here?
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无心的结果会不会是一种可能性呢
16:51
SG: I don't think --
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SG:我不这么认为
16:52
I'm pretty sure, statistically,
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我挺确定从统计数据来看
16:54
they're no less or better people than any other organization
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他们和任何人数 不少于10万的大公司
16:57
that has 100,000 or more people.
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情况都差不多
16:58
I don't think they're bad people.
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我不认为他们是坏人
其实我得说
17:00
As a matter of fact, I would argue
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以人为本的好领导也不在少数
17:02
that there's a lot of very civic-minded, decent leadership.
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但问题是
17:05
But this is the issue:
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当你控制了搜索业务90%的市场份额
17:06
when you control 90 percent points of share in a market, search,
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17:10
that is now bigger than the entire advertising market of any nation,
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如今这比任何国家的 整个广告市场都大
17:14
and you're primarily compensated and trying to develop economic security
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而你在财务方面获益主要是
17:17
for you and the families of your employees,
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通过增大市场份额 你才能为雇员及其家庭
17:19
to increase that market share,
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获得经济保障
17:21
you can't help but leverage all the power at your disposal.
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你不得不把所有 可用的权力发挥到极致
17:24
And that is the basis for regulation,
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而这是需要监管的基础
17:26
and it's the basis for the truism throughout history
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也印证了一条贯穿历史 不言自明的真理
17:28
that power corrupts.
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权利导致腐败
17:30
They're not bad people;
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他们不是坏人
17:31
we've just let them get out of control.
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只是我们让他们变成了 脱缰之马 完全不受控制
17:34
CA: So maybe the case is slightly overstated?
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CA: 所以实情可能被说得有 一点儿言过其实了对吗
17:38
I know at least a bit --
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我认为至少有一点
17:40
Larry Page, for example, Jeff Bezos --
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例如 拉里·佩奇 杰弗里·贝索斯
17:42
I don't actually believe they wake up thinking,
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我其实并不认为他们 一起床就想着
17:45
"I've got to sell a fucking Nissan."
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我特么要卖掉一辆尼桑车
17:47
I don't think they think that.
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我不认为他们这样想
17:48
I think they are trying to build something cool, and are probably,
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我想他们在试着做些很酷的事情
17:54
in moments of reflection,
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有时他们可能也会反思
17:55
as horrified that some of the things that have happened as we might be.
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也许像我们一样 被实际发生的事吓到了
17:59
So is there a different way of framing this,
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所以是否有另一种方法 来解释这件事
18:04
to say that when your model is advertising,
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比如说你是做广告业务的
18:09
that there are dangers there that you have to take on more explicitly?
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是否有需要你更直接承担的危险
18:14
SG: I think it's very difficult to set an organization up as we do,
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SG:我认为我们 这样做很难建立一个
18:19
to pursue shareholder value above all else.
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追逐股价胜于其他一切的企业
18:21
They're not non-profits.
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他们毕竟是营利企业
18:22
The reason people go to work there is they want to create economic security
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人们来这儿工作 就是想为自己和家人
挣得一份稳定的收入
18:26
for them and their families,
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18:27
mostly first and foremost.
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这是大前提 也是最重要的原因
18:29
And when you get to a point where you control so much economic power,
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当你终于掌控了巨大的经济权力时
18:32
you use all the weapons at your disposal.
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你将所有的武器用到极致
18:34
I don't think they're bad people,
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我不认为他们是坏人
但我认为我们不仅是消费者 也是选民 自当和政府一道
18:36
but I think the role of government and the role of us as consumers
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18:39
and people who elect our officials
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扮演好监管者的角色
确保这些公司能受到监管
18:41
is to ensure that there are some checks here.
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我们给了他们免检王牌
18:43
And we have given them the mother of all hall passes
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因为我们觉得他们太有吸引力了
18:46
because we find them just so fascinating.
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18:48
CA: Scott, eloquently put, spectacularly put.
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CA:Scott 非常精彩的阐述
18:51
Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Larry Page, Tim Cook, if you're watching,
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马克·扎克伯格 杰弗里·贝索斯 拉里·佩奇 蒂姆·库克
18:56
you're welcome to come and make the counterargument as well.
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如果你们看到了这个演讲 欢迎来做一场反方辩论
18:59
Scott, thank you so much.
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Scott 非常感谢
19:00
SG: Thanks very much.
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SG:非常感谢
19:02
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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