How do you build a sacred space? | Siamak Hariri

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翻译人员: Chen Zou 校对人员: Lipeng Chen
00:12
The school of architecture that I studied at some 30 years ago
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在大约三十年前我学习的 建筑学院
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happened to be across the street from the wonderful art gallery
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对面正好是个 很棒的艺术展览馆
00:20
designed by the great architect Louis Kahn.
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展览馆由伟大的建筑师 Louis Kahn所设计
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I love the building, and I used to visit it quite often.
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我很喜欢这建筑 我经常去参观
00:28
One day,
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一天
00:30
I saw the security guard run his hand across the concrete wall.
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我看到保安将他的手 放到坚固的墙上滑动
00:36
And it was the way he did it,
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他触摸的方式
00:38
the expression on his face --
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他脸上的表情-
00:41
something touched me.
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有莫种东西打动了我
00:43
I could see that the security guard was moved by the building
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我可以看到这个保安 被这建筑打动
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and that architecture has that capacity
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而且建筑有这样的能力
00:53
to move you.
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去打动你
00:55
I could see it, and I remember thinking,
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我可以看到它,而且我记得我在想着
00:57
"Wow. How does architecture do that?"
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"哇,建筑学是怎样做到的?"
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At school, I was learning to design,
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在学校, 我是学习设计的
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but here -- here was a reaction of the heart.
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但在这里-这里 有一种内心的反应
01:11
And it touched me to the core.
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从核心处感动了我
01:17
You know, you aspire for beauty,
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你知道,你渴望美丽
01:23
for sensuousness, for atmosphere, the emotional response.
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渴望感性, 气氛 情绪反应
01:29
That's the realm of the ineffable
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这是不可名状的东西
01:32
and the immeasurable.
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而且无法测度
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And that's what you live for:
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这是你为之存活的--
01:36
a chance to try.
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一个去尝试的机会
01:39
So in 2003, there was an open call for designs
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在2003年,有个为南美巴哈伊灵曦堂
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for the Bahá'í Temple for South America.
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公开的设计征集
01:45
This was the first temple in all of South America.
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这是全南美的 第一个寺庙
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It's a continental temple,
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是个大陆寺庙
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a hugely important milestone for the Bahá'í community,
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是巴哈伊教社区的 一个非常重要的里程碑
01:53
because this would be the last of the continental temples
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因为将是最后一个 大陆寺庙
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and would open the door for national and local temples to be built
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而且将会在全世界范围内
02:01
around the world.
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为国家和当地寺庙的建造起到一个带领作用
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And the brief was deceptively simple
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而且建造的要义是令人难以相信的简单
02:06
and unique in the annals of religion:
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在教义中是独特的:
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a circular room, nine sides, nine entrances, nine paths,
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一个圆形的房间, 九个方向 九个入口, 九条道路
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allowing you to come to the temple from all directions,
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让你从各方向进教堂
02:23
nine symbolizing completeness,
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九象征着完整
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perfection.
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完美
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No pulpit, no sermons,
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没有讲坛,没有布道
02:31
as there are no clergy in the Bahá'í faith.
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在巴哈伊教的信仰中没有神职人员
02:34
And in a world which is putting up walls,
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而且在一个建造墙的世界里
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the design needed to express in form
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这个设计需要以一种
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the very opposite.
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以相反理念去表达
02:44
It had to be open, welcoming
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它需要开放,欢迎
02:48
to people of all faiths, walks of life, backgrounds,
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有着不同信仰 不同生活轨迹,背景的人
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or no faith at all;
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或者完全没有信仰的人
02:56
a new form of sacred space
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一种新的神圣空间的形式
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with no pattern
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没有模式
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or models to draw from.
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没有先例来参考
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It was like designing one of the first churches for Christianity
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就像是设计基督教 最早的教堂之一
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or one of the first mosques for Islam.
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或是伊斯兰教最早的清真寺之一
03:13
So we live in a secular world.
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那么我们活在一个世俗的世界里
03:20
How do you design sacred space today?
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如何在当今设计一个神圣的地方呢?
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And how do you even define what's sacred today?
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甚至,当今如何 定义什么是神圣呢?
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I stumbled across this beautiful quote from the Bahá'í writings,
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我偶然看到这个来自于 巴哈伊教文字的美丽的用语
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and it speaks to prayer.
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它是对一个祷告者说话
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It says that if you reach out in prayer,
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它说如果你主动走向祷告
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and if your prayer is answered -- which is already very interesting --
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而且你的祷告得到了回复 这已经很有意思了 -
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that the pillars of your heart will become ashine.
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那么你心中伫立的柱子 就会变得发亮
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And I loved this idea of the inner and the outer,
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我喜欢这个 内在和外在的概念
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like when you see someone and you say, "That person is radiant."
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就像当你看到一个人 你说,“那个人看起来闪闪发光”
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And I was thinking, "My gosh, how could we make something
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然后我就在想:“天哪 我们怎么把这样的想法
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architectural out of that,
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通过建筑变成现实呢
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where you create a building
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你创造出一栋建筑
04:15
and it becomes alive with light?
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然后它随着光生动起来?“
04:19
Like alabaster, if you kiss it with light, it becomes alive.
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就像雪花石膏一样,如果你用光“亲吻”它 它会活起来
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And I drew this sketch,
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然后我画了这张草图
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something with two layers, translucent
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在中间有着两层,半透明的
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with structure in between capturing light.
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结构来捕捉光线
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Maybe a pure form, a single form of emanation
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也许是一个单纯的形式 一种表达的形式
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that you could imagine
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你可以想象的
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would be all dome
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可以都是穹形屋顶
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and everything we kept making was looking too much like an egg.
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然后每件我们在制作的东西 都看起来太像一个蛋了
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(Laughter)
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(观众笑声)
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A blob.
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一个凝固体
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So you search.
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所以你开始搜索
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You all know this crazy search, letting the process take you,
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你们都知道这个疯狂的搜寻 让过程带领着你
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and you live for the surprises.
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然后你为那些惊喜而活
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And I remember quite by accident
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我还记得挺意外地
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I saw this little video of a plant moving in light,
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我看到了这个一株植物 在光下移动的小视频
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and it made me think of movement,
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让我想到了移动
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reach,
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追寻
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this idea that the temple could have reach,
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就像是这种追寻一样
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like this reach for the divine.
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寺庙对于圣神的追寻
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You can imagine also
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你也可以想象
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that movement within a circle could mean movement and stillness,
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在一圆圈里的运动 可以意味着运动和静止不动
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like the cosmos,
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就像宇宙
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something you see in many places.
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你可以在很多地方看到的东西
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(Laughter)
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(观众笑声)
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But rotation was not enough,
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但是转动是不够的
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because we needed a form.
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因为我们需要一个形式
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In the Bahá'í writings, it talks about
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在巴哈伊的写作里,它讲述了
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the temples being as perfect as is humanly possible,
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庙堂尽可能的 人类性的完美
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and we kept thinking, well, what is perfection?
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然后我们一直在想 那么,什么是完美?
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And I remember I stumbled into this image of this Japanese basket
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我记得我偶然看到这个画面 是一个日本的篮子
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and thinking our Western notions of perfection need to be challenged,
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然后想着我们西方 关于完美需要被挑战的格言
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that this wonderful silhouette of this basket, this wonkiness,
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这个篮子的完美轮廓 这个摇摆
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and that it has the kind of dimple of what you might imagine a shoulder
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它有一种类似酒窝的 让你联想到一个肩膀
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or the cheekbone,
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或是脸颊
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and that kind of organic form.
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以及那种有机的形式
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And so we drew and made models,
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所以我们绘画和制作了模式
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these lines that merge at the top,
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这些线条在顶端汇集
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soft lines,
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柔软的线条
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which became like drapery
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它们变得像布料
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and translucent veils and folding,
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然后是半透明的面罩和折叠
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and the idea of not only folding but torquing --
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不仅仅是折叠,而且是扭转
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you remember the plant and the way it was reaching.
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你记得植物 以及它去追寻的方式
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And this started to become an interesting form,
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这个开始变成 一种有趣的形式
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carving the base, making the entrances.
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雕刻基地,制作入口
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And then we ended up with this.
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然后我们有了这个
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This is this temple with two layers,
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这个庙堂有两层
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nine luminous veils,
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九个光的面罩
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embodied light,
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有灯镶嵌在里面
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soft-flowing lines
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柔软流动的线条
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like luminescent drapery.
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就像发光的布料
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180 submissions were received from 80 countries,
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来自80个国家的 180份递交中
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and this was selected.
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这个是被选中的
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So we went to the next stage of how to build it.
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所以我们到了下一个 如何建造的阶段
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We had submitted alabaster.
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我们递交了雪花石膏
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But alabaster was too soft,
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但是雪花石膏太柔软
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and we were experimenting, many experiments with materials,
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所以我们做实验 用了很多材料做很多试验
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trying to think how we could have this kind of shimmer,
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尝试去想我们如何拥有 这样的闪光
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and we ended up with borosilicate.
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然后我们有了硼硅酸盐
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And borosilicate glass, as you know, is very strong,
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正如你们所知道的 硼硅酸盐玻璃是很强硬的
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and if you break borosilicate rods just so and melt them
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如果你打碎硼硅酸盐棒子 就像这样,然后融化它们
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at just the right temperature,
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在刚好合适的温度
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we ended up with this new material,
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我们就有了这个新的材料
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this new cast glass which took us about two years to make.
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这个花费了我们大概两年时间 制造的新的铸玻璃
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And it had this quality that we loved,
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它有我们所需要的质量
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this idea of the embodied light,
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有内涵光亮的这个概念
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but on the inside, we wanted something with a soft light,
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但是在里面,我们想要 一些柔和的光线
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like the inner lining of a jacket.
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就好像夹克衫的内衬
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On the outside you have protection, but on the inside you touch it.
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外面有保护层 但是在里面你可以触摸它
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So we found this tiny vein in a huge quarry in Portugal
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所以我们在葡萄牙的一个很大的 石塘发现了这个很小的防护罩
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with this beautiful stone,
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和这美丽的石头
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which the owner had kept for seven generations in his family,
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石头的主人把它在他的 家族保存了7代
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waiting for the right project, if you can believe it.
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他们在等待合适的项目 如果你相信这个故事版本
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Look at this material, it's beautiful.
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看看这个材料,它是很美丽的
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And the way it lights up; it has that translucent quality.
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而且它亮起的方式 它有那个半透明的质感
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So here you see the structure.
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所以这里你可以看到结构
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It lets the light through.
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它让光线通过
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And looking down,
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然后往下看
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the nine wings are bound,
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九个翅膀是在一起的
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structurally but symbolically strong,
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不仅是结构性的,而且是标志性的强壮
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a great symbol of unity:
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一个联合的伟大标志
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pure geometry, a perfect circle,
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纯粹的几何,一个完美的圆圈
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30 meters in section and in plan,
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在部分和计划中30米
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perfectly symmetrical,
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完美的对称
08:53
like the idea of sacredness and geometry.
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就好像神圣和几何的概念
08:57
And here you see the building going up,
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这里你可以看到建筑向上
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2,000 steel nodes,
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2000个钢结节
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9,000 pieces of steel,
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9000条钢
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7,800 stone pieces,
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7800块石头
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10,000 cast glass pieces, all individual shapes,
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10000块玻璃 全部有着独立的形态
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the entire superstructure all described,
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整个描述的结构
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engineered, fabricated with aerospace technology,
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被太空科技工程建造 和编织
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prefabricated machine to machine,
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机器地
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robotically,
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机器对机器不断编织
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a huge team effort, you can imagine,
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你可以想象,这是一个由上百人
09:29
of literally hundreds,
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组成的团队合作
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and within three percent of our $30 million budget
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在2006
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set in 2006.
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只用了我们的30万美金预算里的百分之3
09:38
(Applause)
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(观众掌声)
09:41
Nine wings bound together
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九个翅膀被绑在一起
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forming a nine-pointed star,
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形成了一个九个翅膀汇聚成的星
09:50
and the star shape moving in space,
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这个星形状在空间中移动
09:55
tracking the sun.
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追踪太阳
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So here it is.
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就是它
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Audience: Wow!
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观众:哇
10:11
(Applause)
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(观众掌声)
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Hopefully, a befitting response to that beautiful quote,
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希望这是一个对那美丽格言 恰如其分的回答
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"a prayer answered,"
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“一个祷告者回答了”
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open in all directions,
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对所有方向开放
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capturing the blue light of dawn,
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抓住了曙光之前的蓝色光线
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tent-like white light of day,
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像白天里帐篷一样的白色光
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the gold light of the afternoon,
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下午时候的黄色光线
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and of course, at night, the reversal:
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当然,在晚上是反过来的
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sensuous,
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感觉上的
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catching the light in all kinds of mysterious ways.
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用各种神秘的方式 抓住了光
10:53
And the site: it's interesting; 14 years ago when we made the submission,
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有趣的是当14年前 我们递交申请之时
10:59
we showed the temple set against the Andes.
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我们展示的寺庙不设在安第斯
11:01
We didn't have the Andes as our site,
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我们没有将安第斯作为我们的地址
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but after nine years, that's exactly where we ended up,
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但是九年后,那正是我们 建造的地方
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the lines of the temple set against nothing but pure nature,
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庙堂的整个装置尽显自然
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and you turn around and you get nothing but the city below you,
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当你转过身你所拥有的 是一个在你脚下的城市
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and inside, a view in all directions,
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在里面,从各个方向来的景色
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radiating gardens
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从每一个壁龛
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from each of the alcoves,
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辐射开来的花园
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radiating paths.
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辐散开来的道路
11:35
Last October, the opening ceremonies --
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去年十月,在开幕式上
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a beautiful, sacred event,
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一个美丽的,神圣的事件
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5,000 people from 80 countries,
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从80个国家来的5000个人
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a continuous river of visitors,
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参观者源源不断
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indigenous people from all over South America,
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从南非国家来的 土著居民
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some who had never left their villages.
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他们中的有一些从来没有 离开过他们的村庄
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And of course, that this temple belongs to people,
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当然,这个庙是属于人类的
12:03
the collective, of many cultures and walks of life,
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许多集合性的 文化和生活方式
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many beliefs,
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许多信仰
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and for me, what's most important is what it feels like on the inside;
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对我来说最重要的是 在里面的感觉
12:15
that it feel intimate,
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亲密无间的感觉
12:18
sacred,
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神圣的
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and that everyone is welcome.
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每个人都是被欢迎的
12:22
And if even a few who come
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即使少数几个来的人
12:26
have the same reaction as that security guard,
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也有着和保安 同样的反应
12:31
then it truly would be their temple.
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那么这真的会是他们的庙堂
12:37
And I would love that.
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我想要实现它
12:38
Thank you.
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谢谢
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(Applause)
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(观众掌声)
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