Jeremy Heimans: What new power looks like

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翻译人员: Yumeng Guo 校对人员: Jing Peng
00:12
So this is Anna Hazare,
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这是安纳•哈扎尔,
00:15
and Anna Hazare may well be the most cutting-edge
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哈扎尔或许是当今世界上走在最前沿的
00:19
digital activist in the world today.
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线上行动主义者。
00:22
And you wouldn't know it by looking at him.
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从外表是看不出来的。
00:24
Hazare is a 77-year-old Indian anticorruption and social justice activist.
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印度人哈扎尔现已77岁, 是致力于反腐和司法公正的积极分子。
00:30
And in 2011, he was running a big campaign
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在2011年,他发动了一场宏大的运动,
00:33
to address everyday corruption in India,
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挑战印度的日常腐败作风,
00:36
a topic that Indian elites love to ignore.
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这是印度精英阶层长期有意忽视的问题。
00:39
So as part of this campaign,
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作为这场运动的一部分,
00:41
he was using all of the traditional tactics
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他采取了任何一位甘地式运动组织者
00:43
that a good Gandhian organizer would use.
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都会运用的策略,
00:45
So he was on a hunger strike,
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即进行绝食抗议,
00:47
and Hazare realized through his hunger
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绝食经历让哈扎尔意识到,
00:49
that actually maybe this time,
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在二十一世纪的今天,
00:51
in the 21st century,
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绝食抗议
00:53
a hunger strike wouldn't be enough.
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或许无法实现全部的目的。
00:54
So he started playing around with mobile activism.
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他进而尝试借助手机开展运动。
他做的第一件事是号召民众,
00:59
So the first thing he did is he said to people,
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01:01
"Okay, why don't you send me
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「如果你们支持我的反腐运动,
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a text message if you support
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为什么不发给我
01:04
my campaign against corruption?"
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一条短信呢?」
01:06
So he does this, he gives people a short code,
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因此他这样做了,他给人们一个短码,
01:08
and about 80,000 people do it.
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大约有8万人响应号召。
01:11
Okay, that's pretty respectable.
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这的确令人敬畏。
01:13
But then he decides,
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他因而决定,
01:14
"Let me tweak my tactics a little bit."
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「我要更进一步。」
01:16
He says, "Why don't you leave me a missed call?"
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他鼓动民众, 「你们为何不给我留一个未接来电呢?」
01:20
Now, for those of you who have lived in the global South,
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如果你生活在南半球,
01:24
you'll know that missed calls
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那就会知道未接来电
01:25
are a really critical part of global mobile culture.
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已成为世界手机文化的重要组成部分,
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I see people nodding.
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我看到有人点头了。
01:30
People leave missed calls all the time:
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人们时时刻刻都在利用未接来电:
01:32
If you're running late for a meeting
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如果你要参加一场会议, 眼看着就要迟到了,
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and you just want to let them know that you're on the way,
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想让他们知道你在路上,
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you leave them a missed call.
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给他们一个未接来电就好了。
01:38
If you're dating someone and you just want to say "I miss you"
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如果你在跟某人谈恋爱, 想表达一下思念之情,
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you leave them a missed call.
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震他(她)手机一下就好了。
01:41
So a note for a dating tip here,
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在某些文化中,
这是个约会小技巧,
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in some cultures,
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01:45
if you want to please your lover,
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如果你想取悦另一半,
01:46
you call them and hang up. (Laughter)
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拨通号码,立即挂掉。 (笑声)
01:51
So why do people leave missed calls?
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话说回来,人们为什么会利用未接来电?
01:54
Well, the reason of course is that
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原因当然是
01:56
they're trying to avoid charges
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省去打电话或发短信的费用。
01:58
associated with making calls and sending texts.
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因此,
02:02
So when Hazare asked people to leave him a missed call,
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当哈扎尔号召民众为他留一个未接来电时
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let's have a little guess how many people actually did this?
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我们猜一下,有多少人响应号召?
02:11
Thirty-five million.
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三千五百万人
02:15
So this is one of the largest coordinated actions in human history.
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这是人类历史上参与人数最多的运动之一。
02:19
It's remarkable.
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很了不起。
02:21
And this reflects the extraordinary strength of the emerging Indian middle class
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蓬勃发展的印度中产阶级由此 展现了其无比雄厚的实力,
02:25
and the power that their mobile phones bring.
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也展现了利用手机所能积聚的力量。
02:28
But he used that,
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哈扎尔采用这种方法,
02:30
Hazare ended up with this massive CSV file of mobile phone numbers,
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最终得到了存储大量 电话号码的CSV文件。
02:34
and he used that to deploy
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他利用这个方法,
02:36
real people power on the ground
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汇聚众人的力量,
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to get hundreds of thousands of people out on the streets in Delhi
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成千上万的民众走向新德里街头,
02:41
to make a national point of everyday corruption in India.
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举国上下因此对日常腐败恶习投以关注。
02:46
It's a really striking story.
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这真是个振奋人心的故事。
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So this is me when I was 12 years old.
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这是12岁的我,
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I hope you see the resemblance.
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希望你们能看出些相似之处。
02:52
And I was also an activist,
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我也是个行动主义者,
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and I have been an activist all my life.
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从小到大,这一点未曾改变过。
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I had this really funny childhood
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我的童年过得相当有趣,
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where I traipsed around the world
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周游各国,
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meeting world leaders and Noble prize winners,
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与全球领导者和诺贝尔奖获得者
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talking about Third World debt,
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当面讨论第三世界债务问题,
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as it was then called,
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后来这个问题演变为
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and demilitarization.
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非军事化问题。
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I was a very, very serious child. (Laughter)
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自小我就忧国忧民。 (笑声)
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And back then,
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后来,
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in the early '90s,
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在90年代初期,
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I had a very cutting-edge tech tool of my own:
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我拥有了最先进的武器,
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the fax.
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传真。
03:21
And the fax was the tool of my activism.
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传真是我践行行动主义的工具。
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And at that time, it was the best way
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那时,
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to get a message to a lot of people
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一次性将信息传达给众人
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all at once.
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传真无疑是最好的办法。
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I'll give you one example of a fax campaign that I ran.
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我给你们举个例子吧
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It was the eve of the Gulf War
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在海湾战争前夕,
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and I organized a global campaign to flood the hotel,
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我组织了一起运动, 号召民众「淹没」,
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the Intercontinental in Geneva,
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日内瓦的洲际酒店,
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where James Baker and Tariq Aziz
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詹姆斯•贝克与塔里克•阿齐兹
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were meeting on the eve of the war,
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将于战前在此会晤,
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and I thought if I could flood them with faxes,
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我当时想,如果我能用传真号召民众, 「淹没酒店」,
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we'll stop the war.
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就能阻止这场战争了
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Well, unsurprisingly,
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然而,不出所料,
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that campaign was wholly unsuccessful.
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这场运动彻彻底底地失败了。
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There are lots of reasons for that,
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失败的原因很多,
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but there's no doubt that one sputtering fax machine
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但毫无疑问的是,
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in Geneva was a little bit of a bandwidth constraint
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当时在日内瓦, 传真机受宽带限制,
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in terms of the ability to get a message to lots of people.
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无法有效地将信息传递给大量民众。
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And so, I went on to discover some better tools.
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因此,我开始寻找更好的工具。
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I cofounded Avaaz, which uses the Internet to mobilize people
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其后我与他人共同成立了Avaaz, 利用互联网来号召民众,
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and now has almost 40 million members,
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目前约有4千万名成员,
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and I now run Purpose, which is a home for these kinds of
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如今我在运营Purpose,
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technology-powered movements.
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Purpose孕育了那些借助技术力量的运动。
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So what's the moral of this story?
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这个故事的寓意是什么?
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Is the moral of this story,
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我讲这个故事是为了说明
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you know what, the fax is kind of eclipsed by the mobile phone?
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传真逐步被手机取代这一事实吗?
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This is another story of tech-determinism?
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又是一个技术决定论的故事吗?
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Well, I would argue that there's actually more to it than that.
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我想说,其寓意远不止于此。
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I'd argue that in the last 20 years,
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我敢断言,在过去的20年里,
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something more fundamental has changed
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一些事情发生了根本性的改变,
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than just new tech.
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而不仅是新技术。
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I would argue that there has been a fundamental shift
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我敢断言,
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in the balance of power
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势力的平衡点在世界范围内
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in the world.
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从根本上发生了转变。
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You ask any activist how to understand the world,
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你问任何一位行动主义者, 如何看清世界的局势?
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and they'll say, "Look at where the power is,
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他会说, 「看看势力集中在何处,
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who has it, how it's shifting."
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谁拥有势力,势力如何转移。」
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And I think we all sense that something big is happening.
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我认为,我们都能感觉到, 世界在发生某种巨大的改变。
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So Henry Timms and I —
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因此,某一天,在亨利•蒂姆斯
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Henry's a fellow movement builder —
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——我开展运动的一位同伴——
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got talking one day and we started to think,
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与我聊天的时候, 我们想到,
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how can we make sense of this new world?
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如何理解这个新世界?
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How can we describe it and give
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如何描述这个世界?
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it a framework that makes it more useful?
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新世界的格局是什么? 如何在这个格局下有所作为?
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Because we realized that many
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因为我们意识到,
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of the lessons that we were discovering in movements
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我们在运动中习得的经验教训,
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actually applied all over the world
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适用于全世界范围内的
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in many sectors of our society.
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社会的方方面面。
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So I want to introduce you to this framework:
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因此我想向你们介绍这个格局:
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Old power, meet new power.
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新旧势力的相遇。
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And I want to talk to you about what new power is today.
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我想跟你们谈谈如今的新兴势力。
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New power is the deployment
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新势力的发展基于
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of mass participation and peer coordination —
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大众参与和对等协调
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these are the two key elements —
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这两个关键因素,
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to create change and shift outcomes.
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新势力促进变革,影响结果的走向。
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And we see new power all around us.
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新势力无处不在。
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This is Beppe Grillo
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这是贝佩•格里洛,
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he was a populist Italian blogger
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一位意大利博主,宣扬平民主义,
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who, with a minimal political apparatus and only some online tools,
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他只有最有限的政治工具, 却凭借网络手段,
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won more than 25 percent of the vote
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在最近意大利的选举中
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in recent Italian elections.
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赢得了超过25%的选票。
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This is Airbnb,
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这是Airbnb,
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which in just a few years
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旗下不曾拥有任何房产,
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has radically disrupted the hotel industry
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却在短短几年内,
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without owning a single square foot of real estate.
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震撼了整个酒店行业。
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This is Kickstarter,
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这是 Kickstarter,
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which we know has raised over a billion dollars
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从五百多万人手里
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from more than five million people.
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筹集到十亿多美金。
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Now, we're familiar with all of these models.
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我们对这些运营模式耳熟能详,
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But what's striking is the commonalities,
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引入注目的地方在于这些模式的共性,
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the structural features of these new models
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它们的结构特点,
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and how they differ from old power.
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以及跟旧势力与众不同的地方。
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Let's look a little bit at this.
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让我们进一步看这个问题。
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Old power is held like a currency.
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旧势力运作如同货币流通,
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New power works like a current.
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新势力运作如同波涛涌动。
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Old power is held by a few.
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旧势力掌握在少数人手里,
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New power isn't held by a few, it's made by many.
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新势力并非如此,而是分散在众多人手中。
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Old power is all about download,
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旧势力完完全全是自上而下,
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and new power uploads.
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而新势力是自下而上。
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And you see a whole set of characteristics that you can trace,
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你看到新势力所有的特征 都是有迹可寻的,
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whether it's in media or politics or education.
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无论是在媒体,政治还是教育领域。
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So we've talked a little bit about what new power is.
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好,我们刚才谈了谈新势力是什么,
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Let's, for a second, talk about what new power isn't.
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现在,我们花点时间聊聊新势力不是什么。
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New power is not your Facebook page.
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新势力不是你的Facebook主页。
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I assure you that having a social media strategy
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我向你保证,你采用的社交媒体战略,
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can enable you to do just as much download
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是自上而下的, 你的所获所得,
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as you used to do when you had the radio.
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跟过去用广播的策略没什么两样。
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Just ask Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad,
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问一下叙利亚独裁者巴沙尔•阿萨德吧,
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I assure you that his Facebook page
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我向你保证,他的Facebook主页
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has not embraced the power of participation.
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并没有实现势力的共同参与。
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New power is not inherently positive.
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新势力并非是固有的正面力量。
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In fact, this isn't an normative argument that we're making,
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事实上,我们所做的并不是一种规范性论证。
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there are many good things about new power,
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新势力有其积极的一面,
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but it can produce bad outcomes.
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但也会带来负面影响。
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More participation, more peer coordination,
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更广泛的参与,更深入的对等协调,
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sometimes distorts outcomes
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有时会带来意想不到的结果。
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and there are some things,
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有一些事情,
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like things, for example, in the medical profession
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比如,新势力涉足医疗领域,
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that we want new power to get nowhere near.
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这绝不是我们希望看到的。
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And thirdly, new power is not the inevitable victor.
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第三,新势力不是永远的赢家,
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In fact, unsurprisingly,
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事实上,不出所料的是,
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as many of these new power models get to scale,
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随着诸多新势力影响力逐步扩大,
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what you see is this massive pushback
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来自旧势力的阻力
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from the forces of old power.
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越发强大
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Just look at this really interesting epic struggle
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就看一下仍在持续的 爱德华•斯诺登和美国国家安全局
07:32
going on right now between Edward Snowden and the NSA.
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之间的恩恩怨怨吧--- 一个有趣的、史诗性的对决。
07:36
You'll note that only one of the two people on this slide
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你要注意的是, 两方中只有一方
07:39
is currently in exile.
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远走他乡,寻求避难。
07:41
And so, it's not at all clear
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因此,新势力是永远的赢家的说法
07:42
that new power will be the inevitable victor.
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根本站不住脚。
07:44
That said, keep one thing in mind:
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这就意味着,有句话你要记在心里:
07:47
We're at the beginning of a very steep curve.
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我们正处在这个陡峭的曲线的起点。
07:50
So you think about some of these new power models, right?
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你在考虑某些新势力的模式,没错吧?
07:52
These were just like someone's
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这些模式在几年前还是某些人
07:54
garage idea a few years ago,
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在车库里的灵感,
07:56
and now they're disrupting entire industries.
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如今正颠覆着整个行业。
08:00
And so, what's interesting about new power,
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因此,新势力有趣之处在于
08:02
is the way it feeds on itself.
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其自我发展的方式。
08:04
Once you have an experience of new power,
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一旦你体验过新势力,
08:06
you tend to expect and want more of it.
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你就会期望享受更多。
08:08
So let's say you've used a peer-to-peer lending platform
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打个比方,你使用过Lending Tree或Prosper
08:11
like Lending Tree or Prosper,
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对等借贷平台,
08:14
then you've figured out that you don't need the bank,
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你会发现你不需要银行了,
08:16
and who wants the bank, right?
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谁还想用银行服务呢?
08:18
And so, that experience tends to embolden you
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因此,这种体验会促使你,
08:20
it tends to make you want more participation
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让你希望这种体验能
08:23
across more aspects of your life.
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融入生活的其他方面。
08:26
And what this gives rise to is
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一系列价值观
08:27
a set of values.
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因此而产生
08:29
We talked about the models
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08:30
that new power has engendered —
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我们讨论了新势力
造就的模式——
08:32
the Airbnbs, the Kickstarters.
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如Airbnbs,Kickstarters。
08:34
What about the values?
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价值观呢?
08:35
And this is an early sketch
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这是对新势力
08:37
at what new power values look like.
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价值观的初步认识
08:39
New power values prize transparency above all else.
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信息透明是最重要的价值观。
08:43
It's almost a religious belief in transparency,
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新势力对信息透明 秉持着几近虔诚的信仰。
08:45
a belief that if you shine a light on something,
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给它一束光,
08:47
it will be better.
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它就绽放。
08:48
And remember that in the 20th century, this was not at all true.
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要知道,在20世纪时, 这并不是完全能实现的。
08:51
People thought that gentlemen should sit behind closed doors
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过去,人们认为绅士们应紧闭大门,
08:54
and make comfortable agreements.
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暗中达成彼此都满意的协议。
08:56
New power values of informal, networked governance.
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新势力看重的是非正式的、网络化管理。
09:00
New power folks would never have invented the U.N. today,
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今天,新势力时代的人 永远不会建立什么联合国,
09:02
for better or worse.
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连边都沾不上。
09:04
New power values participation,
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新势力重视参与度,
09:06
and new power is all about do-it-yourself.
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新势力完全是自己动手做事。
09:09
In fact, what's interesting about new power
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事实上,新势力有趣的地方在于,
09:10
is that it eschews some of the professionalization
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它在一定程度上避免了
20世纪时风行
09:14
and specialization that was
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09:15
all the rage in the 20th century.
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的职业化和专业化
09:18
So what's interesting about these
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这些新势力模式和价值观
09:20
new power values and these new power models
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有趣之处就在于
09:22
is what they mean for organizations.
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它们对于组织的意义。
09:24
So we've spent a bit of time thinking,
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我们已花了些时间考虑
09:26
how can we plot organizations
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该如何在二维坐标上
09:29
on a two-by-two where, essentially,
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标明各组织所处的位置,
09:31
we look at new power values
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在这个坐标上,
我们能看到新势力价值观和模式,
09:33
and new power models
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09:34
and see where different people sit?
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并能看到不同人所处的位置。
09:36
We started with a U.S. analysis,
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我们以发生在美国的例子做分析,
09:38
and let me show you some interesting findings.
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我给你们展示一些有趣的发现。
09:40
So the first is Apple.
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首先是苹果公司,
09:42
In this framework, we actually described Apple
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在这个坐标上,我们事实上将苹果公司
09:45
as an old power company.
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定位于旧势力公司。
09:47
That's because the ideology,
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原因是其企业意识形态,
09:49
the governing ideology of Apple
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在苹果公司,盛行的是
09:51
is the ideology of the perfectionist
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库比蒂诺完美主义
09:54
product designer in Cupertino.
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产品设计师的意识形态。
09:56
It's absolutely about that beautiful, perfect thing descending upon us
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这完全是经典无暇的产品
完美地闯入我们的世界。
10:00
in perfection.
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10:01
And it does not value, as a company, transparency.
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而且苹果公司并没有信息透明的价值观。
10:04
In fact, it's very secretive.
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事实上,苹果公司很重视信息保密。
10:06
Now, Apple is one of the most succesful companies in the world.
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如今,苹果公司是世界上最成功的公司之一。
10:08
So this shows that you can
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这意味着,
你仍然可以成功追求旧势力策略。
10:10
still pursue a successful old power strategy.
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10:12
But one can argue that there's real vulnerabilites in that model.
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有人会说,这个模式有其脆弱的一面。
10:15
I think another interesting comparison
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我想,还有另一个有趣的例子,
10:17
is that of the Obama campaign
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即奥巴马竞选
10:20
versus the Obama presidency.
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与奥巴马执政的对比
10:23
(Applause)
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(掌声)
10:30
Now, I like President Obama,
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我喜欢奥巴马总统,
10:32
but he ran with new power at his back, right?
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但他总在暗中行使新势力,没错吧?
10:36
And he said to people,
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他曾对我们说,
10:38
we are the ones we've been waiting for.
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我们在等的那个人就是我们自己。
10:40
And he used crowdfunding
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他采用群众募资的方式
10:41
to power a campaign.
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来壮大运动
10:42
But when he got into office,
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但当他登台后,
10:44
he governed like more or less all the other presidents did.
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他的表现就或多或少 与其他总统别无二致了。
10:47
And this is a really interesting trend,
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这真是个有趣的趋势,
10:49
is when new power gets powerful,
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当新势力变得强大后,
10:51
what happens?
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会发生什么?
10:53
So this is a framework you should look at
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因此,你应当考虑一下
10:55
and think about where your own organization
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你的组织在这个坐标上
10:56
sits on it.
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所处的位置
10:57
And think about where it should be
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并考虑一下五年或十年后
10:59
in five or 10 years.
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你期望它所处的位置。
11:00
So what do you do if you're old power?
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如果你的组织是旧势力,该怎么做?
11:03
Well, if you're there thinking, in old power,
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假设你身为旧势力, 如果你这么想,
11:06
this won't happen to us.
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这不会发生在我们身上
11:08
Then just look at the Wikipedia entry for Encyclopædia Britannica.
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那么就在维基百科上搜一下 大英百科全书这个词条吧。
11:13
Let me tell you, it's a very sad read.
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我来告诉你, 这个词条的内容会让人感到伤感
11:15
But if you are old power,
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如果你的组织是旧势力,
11:17
the most important thing you can do is to occupy yourself
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对你而言最重要的就是
在别人占领你的地盘前,
11:20
before others occupy you,
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牢牢守好自己的地盘。
11:23
before you are occupied.
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11:24
Imagine that a group of your biggest skeptics
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设想一下,让最质疑你的组织的一群人
11:27
are camped in the heart of your organization
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驻扎在你的组织核心之处,
11:29
asking the toughest questions
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提出最尖锐的问题,
11:31
and they can see everything inside of your organization.
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而且他们可以看到你的组织中的一切。
11:34
And ask them, would they like what they see
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随后问问他们是否喜欢眼前的事实,
11:37
and should our model change?
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你的模式需不需要做出改变?
11:39
What about if you're new power?
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如果你的组织是新势力,该做些什么?
11:41
Is new power kind of just riding the wave to glory?
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新势力就会一帆风顺,直奔光明吗?
11:44
I would argue no.
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我会说,不是的。
11:45
I would argue that there are some very real challenges
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我认为,现实中,在新势力初期阶段
11:47
to new power in this nascent phase.
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存在一些真正的挑战。
11:49
Let's stick with the Occupy Wall Street example for a moment.
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让我们花些时间关注在「占领华尔街」运动上。
11:52
Occupy was this incredible example of new power,
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这个运动是经典的新势力的例子,
11:55
the purest example of new power.
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且极具代表性。
11:57
And yet, it failed to consolidate.
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然而,其成果没能得到巩固,
12:00
So the energy that it created
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因此,该运动所激发出的能量,
12:02
was great for the meme phase,
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对最初的模仿阶段来说 是难能可贵的。
12:03
but they were so committed to participation,
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但他们太过专注于参与度,
12:06
that they never got anything done.
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而没有将任何事情落于实处。
12:08
And in fact that model
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事实上,这个模式意味着,
12:09
means that the challenge for new power is:
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对新势力的挑战在于:
12:12
how do you use institutional power
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在未制度化的前提下,
12:15
without being institutionalized?
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如何发挥制度的优势?
12:17
One the other end of the spectra is Uber.
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坐标轴另一端的例子是Uber。
12:19
Uber is an amazing,
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Uber很不可思议,
12:21
highly scalable new power model.
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拥有强大的新势力模式,
12:23
That network is getting denser and denser
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且影响范围极易扩张,
12:25
by the day.
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网络覆盖率变得越来越密集
12:26
But what's really interesting about Uber is
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但Uber真正有趣的地方在于
12:28
it hasn't really adopted new power values.
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它并没有秉持新势力价值观。
12:32
This is a real quote from the Uber CEO recently:
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下面这句话引自Uber的首席执行官,
12:36
He says, "Once we get rid of the dude in the car" — he means drivers —
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「一旦我们摆脱出租车里的这位老兄」 ——他指司机——
12:41
"Uber will be cheaper."
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「Uber就会便宜了。」
12:44
Now, new power models live and die
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如今,这些新势力模式生死取决于
12:47
by the strength of their networks.
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关系网络是否强大,
12:50
By whether the drivers and the consumers
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也取决于司机和消费者
12:51
who use the service actually believe in it.
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——这些接受这项服务的人——是否相信它。
12:54
Because they're not an exercise of top-down perfectionism,
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因为它们并不是自上而下的完美主义成果,
12:57
they are about the network.
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而是关于关系网络的。
12:59
And so, the challenge,
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因此,这个挑战,
13:01
and this is why it's in no way surprising,
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这就是为什么Uber的司机
13:03
is that Uber's drivers are now unionizing.
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正着手成立工会, 这真的一点儿都不让人感觉奇怪
13:07
It's extraordinary.
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这真的不同寻常
13:09
Uber's drivers are turning on Uber.
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Uber的司机正在对抗Uber,
13:11
And the challenge for Uber —
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Uber面临的挑战——
13:13
this isn't an easy situation for them —
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对他们而言不是好形势——
13:15
is that they are locked into a broader superstrcuture
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是他们已被困在更宽泛的上层结构中,
13:18
that is really old power.
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而这无疑是旧势力。
13:20
They've raised more than a billion dollars in the capital markets.
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他们已在资本市场募集超过十亿美金,
13:23
Those markets expect a financial return,
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市场期望获得经济回报,
13:25
and they way you get a financial return
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而获得经济回报的方式,
13:27
is by squeezing and squeezing
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就是不断不断地压榨
13:29
your users and your drivers
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你的用户和司机,
13:32
for more and more value
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获取更多的利润,
13:33
and giving that value to your investors.
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转移到投资者手中。
13:35
So the big question about the future of new power, in my view, is:
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未来新势力的关键问题, 在我看来,即:
13:39
Will that old power just emerge?
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旧势力会出现吗?
13:42
So will new power elites just become
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新势力的精英们
13:43
old power and squeeze?
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会变为旧势力,并压榨他人吗?
13:45
Or will that new power base bite back?
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或者,新势力的基础会走回头路吗?
13:48
Will the next big Uber
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下一个Uber
13:50
be co-owned by Uber drivers?
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会由Uber的司机共同拥有吗?
13:52
And I think this going to be a very interesting
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我认为,这会是一个很有趣的
13:55
structural question.
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结构层面上的问题。
13:57
Finally, think about new power
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最后,新势力不只是
14:00
being more than just an
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扩大事物的影响范围
14:02
entity that scales things
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让我们
14:04
that make us have slightly better consumer experiences.
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拥有了更好的用户体验。
14:08
My call to action for new power
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我对于新势力的呼吁是,
14:10
is to not be an island.
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不要孤立。
14:12
We have major structural problems in the world today
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今天我们面临严重的结构性问题,
14:15
that could benefit enormously
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我们能从广泛参与和对等协调中
14:18
from the kinds of mass participation
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获益良多,
而广泛参与和对等协调对于
14:20
and peer coordination
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14:21
that these new power players
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这些新势力的弄潮者来说
14:23
know so well how to generate.
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可谓轻车熟路。
14:25
And we badly need them to turn their energies and their power
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我们急需他们将能量和势力
转移到这些严重的问题上,
14:29
to big, what economists might call
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经济学家或许会称其为公共财产问题,
14:32
public goods problems,
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14:34
that are often beyond markets
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这些问题通常远在市场之外,
14:36
where investors can easily be found.
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投资者不会轻易发现。
14:38
And I think if we can do that,
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我认为,如果我们能做到这一点,
14:40
we might be able to fundamentally change
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我们或许不仅能从根本上改变
14:43
not only human beings' sense of their own agency and power —
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人们对于其自身能力的看法——
14:46
because I think that's the most wonderful thing about new power,
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因为,我认为这是对于 新势力而言最美好的事情,
14:49
is that people feel more powerful —
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即人们感觉自身势力更强大——
14:52
but we might also be able to change
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或许还能改变
14:54
the way we relate to each other
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我们与他人之间相处的方式,
14:55
and the way we relate to authority and institutions.
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与权贵和机构来往的方式。
14:59
And to me, that's absolutely
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对于我而言,
这完全值得努力去争取。
15:01
worth trying for.
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15:02
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢你们。
15:03
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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